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Speaker 1: On scorn lids Australia. This is the Reader Panalkey Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight, we'll look at the inflationary pressure of Labour's

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Speaker 2: reckless spending, with the inflation rate jumping to four percent.

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Speaker 2: The ABC's Trump derangement syndrome exposed again with a car

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Speaker 2: crash interview with Republican Marjorie Taylor Green. Douglas Murray joins

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Speaker 2: me in just a moment and we'll be discussing everything

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Speaker 2: from the deadly anti Christian violence in Pakistan, to the

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Speaker 2: Victorian government embracing kill testing, to the downfall of the

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Speaker 2: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. And we'll look at Tucker

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Speaker 2: Carlson taking on an Australian journalist. It doesn't go too

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Speaker 2: well for the full ass.

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Speaker 3: You don't just go for the quick sugar fix of

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Speaker 3: importing new people like That's my position.

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Speaker 1: And if you think that's racist, that's your problem.

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Speaker 4: I never called you a racist, but of course you

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Speaker 4: but of course you are suggesting.

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Speaker 1: And I must say one of the reasons why people don't.

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Speaker 3: Like people like you in the media is that you

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Speaker 3: never say exactly what you mean, your slurs are all

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Speaker 3: by implication.

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Speaker 5: This is the same theory or as you say, idea

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Speaker 5: that has inspired the New York Buffalo shooting. Word.

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Speaker 4: Come on to what I mean, it's also inspired. It's not,

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Speaker 4: first of all, it's inspired the.

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Speaker 1: Worst, the one of the worst Australian time, just stupid

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Speaker 1: in the media. I guess it doesn't pay well. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I've lived among people like you for too long and

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to I don't mean to call you,

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Speaker 3: call you stupid. Maybe you're just pretending to be.

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Speaker 2: And like joing the Alkinsy Schofield will be joining me

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Speaker 2: with the latest royal and celebrity news, plus the segment

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Speaker 2: that has millions of views each and every week. We

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Speaker 2: call it Left is Losing It, and tonight it includes

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Speaker 2: this fielded judge, yes, judge.

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Speaker 6: By pointing the finger at Republicans and saying it's their fault,

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Speaker 6: not the fault of the Biden administration that lifted the

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Speaker 6: remain in Mexico policies.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is best selling author of groundbreaking works

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Speaker 2: including the Strange Death of Europe, The Madness of Crowds,

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Speaker 2: and The War on the West. Douglas Murray We will

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Speaker 2: get to Victoria's new pill testing policy and more permissive

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Speaker 2: attitude to illicit drugs shortly, but let's start in New York,

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Speaker 2: where the stench of marijuana is often lingering in the air.

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Speaker 2: And it's a New York sixteen district that the far

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Speaker 2: left suffered a blow. The squad is one member down

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Speaker 2: after Jamal Bowman lost his primary race by quite a margin.

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Speaker 2: This is despite AOC's best efforts over the weekend to

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Speaker 2: whip up support in the Bronx. And it didn't take

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Speaker 2: long for the New York Times to blame You guessed

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Speaker 2: that the Jews. It was a flood of pro Israel

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Speaker 2: money that did it. But after a backlash on Eggs

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Speaker 2: and questions from the New York Post, the Times did

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Speaker 2: alter its headline. But we should not be surprised, Douglas,

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Speaker 2: that the first instinct of the New York Times is

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Speaker 2: to blame Israel. Blame the Jews.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I think that the reason why Jamal Bowman lost

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Speaker 7: was because he was a hideous representative his district. Seems

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Speaker 7: to think he should talk about foreign affairs in a

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Speaker 7: far off country about which he knows nothing, rather than

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Speaker 7: doing anything for the people of his district, and I

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Speaker 7: think another reason he lost was because of the sort

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Speaker 7: of scenes we're seeing there. Alexandri Okees Portes seemed to

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Speaker 7: think when she was trying to rally up the Bronx

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Speaker 7: so a really small number of people the other day

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Speaker 7: seemed to think she was some kind of Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 7: maybe bigger than Taylor Swift, jumping around the stage doing

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Speaker 7: these kind of embarrassing hand gestures. I'mdoing her hair, redoing it,

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Speaker 7: flipping it around, showing just how down with the kid

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Speaker 7: she is whilst talking about the importance of a ceasefire

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Speaker 7: in the Middle East. These people are in an embarrassment

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Speaker 7: to their districts, and they're an embarrassment to most New Yorkers.

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Speaker 7: Most New Yorkers, like other voters, want things close to

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Speaker 7: home to be addressed. Some of them have a care

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Speaker 7: about foreign policy, for sure, But congressmen and women that

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Speaker 7: they don't have any say it's not important. This isn't

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Speaker 7: their area, and they're mentor, as I say, improve the

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Speaker 7: living standards of their area. All you hear from people

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Speaker 7: like representing former Representative Bowmen and Alexandria Casa Cortez is

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Speaker 7: the sort of basic sort of soap box demagogery, complete

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Speaker 7: inability to do anything meaningful. When Jamal Bowman, when a

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Speaker 7: into the corridors and pull the fire alarm like some

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Speaker 7: crazy delinquent. And you know, maybe it's things like that

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Speaker 7: that actually meant that people voted him out. But of course,

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Speaker 7: you know, of course, of course, of course he thinks

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Speaker 7: it's the Jews.

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Speaker 2: Of course, always and talking about the issues that actually

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Speaker 2: matter to Americans. Were mere hours away from the much

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Speaker 2: awaited presidential debate, and the issues that matter most Americans

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Speaker 2: are legal immigration, We've got the cost of living crisis,

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Speaker 2: we've got crime. But I wonder, Douglas, is a debate

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Speaker 2: that's going to be moderated by two CNN hosts going

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Speaker 2: to focus on those issues or are they going to

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Speaker 2: provide questions that are more palatable to Joe Biden.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's going to be an extraordinary debate

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Speaker 7: any standards. Several reasons. By the way, as far as

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Speaker 7: I know, this is the first time there has been

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Speaker 7: such a debate ahead of the party's conventions. So it's

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Speaker 7: actually it's especially risky in my view for Joe Biden,

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Speaker 7: who finds it hard to perform well on the easiest

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Speaker 7: of days. This is going to be a tough one

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Speaker 7: for him. I hope that if we learn anything from it,

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Speaker 7: we will actually get onto the substantive issues. There are

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Speaker 7: major disagreements between the candidates. Donald Trump obviously campaigned in

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Speaker 7: both his previous runs and is in this one on

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Speaker 7: the border crisis. Joe Biden has let the border crisis

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Speaker 7: in America just absolutely explode. Americans can see things like

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Speaker 7: that manifesting in their cities. They can see the results

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Speaker 7: of crime and massively liberalized drug laws in their cities.

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Speaker 7: I think one of the toughest ones read to look

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Speaker 7: out for is will the candidates be able to have

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Speaker 7: a substantial conversation about the cost of living crisis which

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Speaker 7: you just referred to, and the question of inflation, because inflation,

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Speaker 7: to my mind, is especially interesting one. It seems abstract

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Speaker 7: in a way, and it seems abstract when people, when

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Speaker 7: politicians discuss it. But it's not abstract because the rampant

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Speaker 7: inflation inflation recent years has meant that everybody's grocery bills,

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Speaker 7: you know, you get less, sometimes literally less than you

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Speaker 7: did a few years ago for the same product. The

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Speaker 7: product is much more expensive. Are either of the candidate's

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Speaker 7: going to be able to explain that one and say

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Speaker 7: what they will do to get that under control. I

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Speaker 7: think that's one of the things to look out for

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Speaker 7: in this debate, as well, of course as the basic

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Speaker 7: ones such as will Donald Trump allowed Joe Biden to speak?

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Speaker 7: And can Joe Biden speak? Those are the two other

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Speaker 7: things to look out for.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to prep him to within an

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Speaker 2: interview his life. I think we're going to see Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden that's more lucid and sharp than we have seen

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Speaker 2: him for some time. He seems to get himself up

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Speaker 2: for some of these big events like the State of

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Speaker 2: the Union. And there's been suggestions made that perhaps there

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Speaker 2: should be some drug testing before this debate. I think

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Speaker 2: there was a poll done showing seventy percent of Americans

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Speaker 2: actually want the candidates to undergo a drug test before

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Speaker 2: the debate. So that's where we're at. That's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: And it's been a while since we talked about Canadian

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the neo Marxist ken Dollars I

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Speaker 2: call him. He's in some serious trouble Douglas. This week,

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Speaker 2: his party lost a by election in one of the

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Speaker 2: safest Liberal seats in the country in Toronto Saint Paul,

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Speaker 2: and Trudeau's minority government is badly trailing the Conservatives in

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Speaker 2: the polls. Is this the end for Trudeau? Douglas? Have

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Speaker 2: the Canadian people finally woke it up to the performative

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Speaker 2: caring that lacks any real substance.

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Speaker 7: You absolutely put your finger on rita performative caring. That's

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Speaker 7: all that Justin Trudeau does. It's very hard to find

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Speaker 7: a true thing he's ever said, or a sincere thing

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Speaker 7: he's ever said. The man is entirely artifice. He's an

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Speaker 7: utter bimbo. A phrase that maybe one would use a

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Speaker 7: female politician these days, but I'm happy to use of

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Speaker 7: Justin Trudeau. There's he's so good a himbo, he's a himbo.

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Speaker 7: I suppose I was in Canada last week in a

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Speaker 7: couple of cities, and I can't tell you, Rita the

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Speaker 7: detestation that you find for Trudeau across the political board.

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Speaker 7: A vast majority of Canadians want him to stand down.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 7: He has really impressive opposition.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 7: I think that Pierre Polievra and the others decide that

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Speaker 7: facing off against Trudeau. I think he's absolutely toasts because finally,

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Speaker 7: you know, we got to that stage where being a

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Speaker 7: sort of superannuated drama teacher turns out you can fool

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Speaker 7: some people for a little while, but not for all

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Speaker 7: that long. Everyone in Canada who wants to see through

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Speaker 7: Justin Trudeau has seen through him. I don't think anyone

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Speaker 7: will regret finally seeing the back of him.

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Speaker 2: He was the biggest media doling in the world there

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Speaker 2: for quite some time, though. Douglass he had a very

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Speaker 2: long honeymoon. Indeed, him and j justinto ar Dern where

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Speaker 2: and you beautifully described them with that tag of performative caring,

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Speaker 2: because that's what it was. It was all style, no substance.

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Speaker 2: You look at the policies they instituted. They weren't helping people,

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Speaker 2: but they were fated as these new age leaders who

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Speaker 2: were full of compassion and empathy. But yes, not much

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Speaker 7: It's interesting greed, isn't it, And people should be aware

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Speaker 7: of this. The amount you can get away with that

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Speaker 7: is cruel and sometimes evil if you wrap it up

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Speaker 7: in this particular style. Of politics. As long as you

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Speaker 7: as long as you come across all lovey and sort

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Speaker 7: of you know, silken head, whether it's Arden or Trudeau,

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Speaker 7: you can do the most vicious things to your public.

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Speaker 7: And wow did they do it?

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Speaker 2: Oh they did. And during COVID, yeah, we discussed that

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Speaker 2: at length. And now I want to go to the UK.

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Speaker 2: Actor David Tenanty was doctor who want Apparently he won

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Speaker 2: a celebrity ally award at the British LGBT Awards. I

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Speaker 2: don't know there was a British LGBT Awards, but here

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Speaker 2: we go, and during his acceptance speech, she decided to

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Speaker 2: attack the only black fees in government by saying he

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Speaker 2: wished Kemmy Badenoch would shut up and no longer exist.

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Speaker 9: However, until we wake up and Kemmy Badenock doesn't exist anymore,

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Speaker 9: I don't wish ell of her. I just wish her

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Speaker 2: Douglas even kiss Dama has sought to distance himself from

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Speaker 2: that ugly misogyny. But David Tennant has plenty of fans

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Speaker 2: in the media, plenty more among the celebrity and activist class.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that entire saga?

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Speaker 7: You know, this is the absolute death of this so

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Speaker 7: called LGBT movement. There was a gay rights movement. It

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Speaker 7: did a lot of good work, and it's basically done.

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Speaker 7: But there are these weird people who keep on extending

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Speaker 7: the alphabet and trying to keep themselves in work and

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Speaker 7: setting up crocker wards ceremonies. I never heard of this thing,

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Speaker 7: the LGBT awards. Look at that ugly monstrosity he was

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Speaker 7: holding in his hands, this LGBT thing. Who the hell

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Speaker 7: gives these wards away? Who's the big gay board that

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Speaker 7: convenes and decides that the straight David Tennant should be

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Speaker 7: I mean, the whole thing's preposterous. Of course, it's sponsored

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Speaker 7: by all of the sort of you know, Tesco and

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And I said it's not isolated. There was

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Speaker 2: Stell to come. Lefty's are losing it and the ABC's

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Speaker 2: Now it's time for Lefty's Losing it. And here is

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Speaker 10: It hurts even more that they're being used as pawns

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Speaker 11: And they won't tell me exactly what I said, but

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Speaker 2: Now this is exciting, folks. Only happens about once a decade,

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Speaker 8: violent and disturbing nature.

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Speaker 4: Video which we are intentionally choosing not to show you.

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Speaker 11: We're not going to show because of how disturbing it is.

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Speaker 2: I was extremely disturbed to see.

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Speaker 1: This horrible, horrible, violent imagery.

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Speaker 4: Violent and dehumanizing imagery.

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Speaker 1: We're only going to show you a clip of this briefly.

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Speaker 7: All right, that's enough, let's take it down.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to see it at all.

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Speaker 13: There's got to be devastating. News channels show images from Ukraine,

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Speaker 13: from Gaza, from natural disasters. They get through them dispassionately.

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Speaker 13: I can't imagine how devastating this footage must be.

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Speaker 4: Former President Donald Trump shared a video this one on

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Speaker 4: his truth social account featuring an image of President Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden hogtide.

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Speaker 7: On the back of a pickup truck.

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Speaker 13: That's what was so disturbing and dehumanizing. You wouldn't show

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Speaker 13: it on television and brushed Biden detatt on the back

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Speaker 13: of a truck. Are you the same networks that show

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Speaker 13: reruns of nine to eleven every year?

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Speaker 12: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Just earlier this month, much of the meter in the

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Speaker 2: US had an absolute meltdown about an obviously doctored image

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Speaker 2: and meme basically on the back of a pickup truck.

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Speaker 2: Can't imagine why people have lost trust in the media.

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Speaker 2: Even John Stewart has lost faith.

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Speaker 4: It's a doctored image, but it's plastered on the tailgate

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Speaker 4: of the pickup truck, so if you're driving behind it,

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Speaker 4: it would appear as if Joe Biden were actually restrained

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Speaker 4: on the vehicle's flat bag.

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Speaker 13: If you think that's really Joe Biden tied up on

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Speaker 13: the back of the pickup truck, I don't know that

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Speaker 13: you have the mental acuity to be operating a motor vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Let's, with the help of AI, look at how CNN

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Speaker 2: would love to conduct the presidential debate.

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Speaker 14: I'd like to set the ground rules to this debate.

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Speaker 14: First off, Biden is allowed to speak whenever he wishes.

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Speaker 14: We will have commercial breaks whenever Biden feels the urge

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Speaker 14: so that his needs can be taken care of. This

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Speaker 14: may or may not include naps, energy boosts, or a

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Speaker 14: snack such as ice cream. On the other hand, Trump

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Speaker 14: is not allowed to speak unless spoken to, and if

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Speaker 14: he interrupts Joe speaking, We're automatically going to deduct ten

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Speaker 14: points from Trump and Door. As the hall moderator of

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Speaker 14: this debate, I can call it off at any moment

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Speaker 14: and declare it a complete victory for Biden. Where did

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Speaker 14: Trump go?

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Speaker 5: He was just here?

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Speaker 2: He still take over. Now we have plenty more lifties

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Speaker 2: losing it content with my next guest, Guy News contributor

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Speaker 2: Kosher geta Kosher. The ABC, which has swallowed every bit

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Speaker 2: of anti Trump disinformation, including for years pushing the thoroughly

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Speaker 2: debunked Russian collusion hoax, They've shown they are slow learners.

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Speaker 2: Here is seven thirty Report host Sarrah Ferguson with Republican

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Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green, who was invited on the program to

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Speaker 2: talk about Julian Assange's return to Australia. But then this happened.

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Speaker 15: You've never accepted the results of the twenty twenty presidential election. Indeed,

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Speaker 15: you've lionized people for.

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Speaker 16: Sarah Sarah, aren't we talking about Julian Assange? Sarah?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 16: Are you, even as Sirius, are even a serious interviewer?

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Speaker 17: I thought we're.

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Speaker 16: Talking about Julian assigned here today. That's what you were

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Speaker 16: asking me to come on to your Australian news show.

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Speaker 16: I don't usually do interviews like this because people like

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Speaker 16: you can't be taken seriously.

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Speaker 15: So you've lionized people in prison for their role in

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Speaker 15: attacking the Capitol on January sixth, including visiting them in prison.

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Speaker 15: This is my question, and what will Donald Trump's MAGA

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Speaker 15: supporters do if he loses the election?

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Speaker 16: So what does this have to do with Julian Assange? Again, Sarah,

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Speaker 16: I think that was the purpose of our interview here.

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Speaker 16: Let me tell you something that you don't quite understand.

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Speaker 16: In twenty twenty America, watch riot day in and day

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Speaker 16: out with BLM riots that caused over two billion dollars

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Speaker 16: in our in our communities and cities across the country. Sarah,

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Speaker 16: what the Australian people know that probably don't like your

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Speaker 16: show very much, but they do understand the truth is

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Speaker 16: that in America day today, we have a two tier

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Speaker 16: justice system and the Justice Department, the DOJ, targets their

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Speaker 16: political enemies and President Trump is the very top of that.

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Speaker 16: And people that protested the election on January sixth are

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Speaker 16: also the target of it. And what you probably don't

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Speaker 16: tell your viewers is that many of these people that

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Speaker 16: are being arrested and put in jail simply walked into

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Speaker 16: the Capitol building through open doors and videoed and took

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Speaker 16: pictures of the inside of the Capitol and then they

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Speaker 16: walked out through doors. And that's I'm sure not the

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Speaker 16: images that you show on your network in Australia.

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Speaker 2: And it went on from there. And before I get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts, Kosher, let's not forget that Sarah Ferguson did

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Speaker 2: a three parts series on the Russian collusion hoax, only

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Speaker 2: you didn't call it a hoax, and that series was

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Speaker 2: at our taxpayer's expense.

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Speaker 18: Hello, and welcome to four Corners. Tonight we begin our

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Speaker 18: special three part investigation into the story of the century,

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Speaker 18: the election of US President Donald Trump and his ties

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Speaker 18: to Russia. Since his inauguration, President Trump has been caught

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Speaker 18: up in a rolling series of allegations.

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Speaker 2: Did the ABC ever correct the record there? I wander Kosher,

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Speaker 2: what did you make of that interview and the ABC's

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Speaker 2: ongoing Trump Derangement syndrome. Billion dollars plus a year they

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Speaker 2: received to give us impartial, unbiased reporting, and it's just

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Speaker 2: activist journalism, h and every.

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Speaker 12: Day Frump derangement syndrome is global, clearly no snow borders.

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Speaker 12: I think at this point is airborne. I would say

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Speaker 12: she clearly has an agenda. I think, you know, the

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Speaker 12: Botcher interview style is the currency of modern day journalism

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Speaker 12: in many parts, and that's what she was clearly trying

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Speaker 12: to do with the MTG Marjorie Taylor Green and congresswoman.

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Speaker 12: And I think maybe what she's not so used to,

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Speaker 12: because it does happen in Australia, but from my observation

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Speaker 12: less so than it does back home in the US,

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Speaker 12: is this adversarial interview style. And people who are fire

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Speaker 12: breathing Republicans or you know, MAGA supporters as they're called,

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Speaker 12: like MTG, are very used to being in those adversarial

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Speaker 12: environments with reporters, and she has sparred with people far

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Speaker 12: more hotthroat, I would say, than Sarah Ferguson over here,

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Speaker 12: and so that was something that was interesting for me

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Speaker 12: to watch where she was MTG was kind of giving

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Speaker 12: it back to Sarah Ferguson as good as she was

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Speaker 12: getting it, if not better. I will give Sarah Ferguson

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Speaker 12: a little bit credit for inviting MTG in the first place,

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Speaker 12: because I do think that a lot of the Australian

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Speaker 12: public and certainly ABC viewers, are getting very limited exposure

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Speaker 12: to the true complexity of these issues, which is the

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty election and the Russia situation, the Russia hoax

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Speaker 12: and all of that, and so by bringing people like

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Speaker 12: this on, at least she was getting a little bit

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Speaker 12: of cut through the guest in providing a little bit

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Speaker 12: of that perspective to the audience. And in closing, I

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Speaker 12: would just say that seventy percent of Republicans don't trust

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Speaker 12: that the twenty twenty election was fair, forty percent of

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Speaker 12: all Americans don't touch so this is a real issue,

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Speaker 12: and to the extent of that point came out of

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Speaker 12: this interview, I think that was a net positive.

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Speaker 2: Well. I can tell you. I was in New York

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty and it wasn't just New York, but blue

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Speaker 2: cities across the US had the shop windows boarded up,

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Speaker 2: and they went worried about MAGA Republicans writing they were

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Speaker 2: worried about what was going to happen if Trump actually won,

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Speaker 2: and the left had an absolute meltdown. But Tucker Carlson,

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Speaker 2: who's here right now, there was a reporter who tried

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Speaker 2: a gotcha question with him and she was comprehensively embarrassed

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Speaker 2: by the former Fox News host.

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Speaker 5: In the past, you've talked about how white Australians, Americans,

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Speaker 5: Europeans are being replaced by non white immigrants in what

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Speaker 5: is often referred to as the Great Replacement theory.

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Speaker 1: This is the same. Have I said that waits are

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Speaker 1: being replaced? Well, I don't think I said that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been mentioned on your show four thousand times, and.

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Speaker 1: Really when did I say that? On your said wights

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Speaker 1: for being replaced?

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Speaker 2: You have said that before?

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Speaker 3: Only Yeah, I would challenge you to say that, because

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I haven't said that.

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Speaker 1: I said need. I said Needive born Americans have are

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Speaker 1: being replaced, including blacks, native born Americans.

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Speaker 3: Native born Americans, Americans who like black Americans, have been

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Speaker 3: and African Americans have been in the United States for

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Speaker 3: in many cases their families over four hundred years, and

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Speaker 3: their concerns are every bit is real and valid and

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Speaker 3: alive to me as the concerns of white people whose

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Speaker 3: families have been their four hundred years. So I've never

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Speaker 3: said that whites are being replaced, not one time.

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Speaker 1: And you can't cite it. We just met. But when

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Speaker 1: our relationship starts with a lie, it makes it tough

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Speaker 1: to be friends. So let's I'm happy to explain what

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Speaker 1: I do think.

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Speaker 3: You actually can't say it because I didn't say it

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Speaker 3: and I don't believe it, and I'm telling you that

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Speaker 3: to your face, So I want you just accept me

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Speaker 3: at face value. My concern is that the people who

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Speaker 3: are born in the country are the main responsibility of

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Speaker 3: its leaders, and as noted earlier, when those leaders shift

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Speaker 3: their concern from the people whose responsibility is to take

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Speaker 3: care of to people around the world, to put their

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Speaker 3: priorities above that of their own citizens, that's immoral, and

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Speaker 3: they are being replaced in my country.

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Speaker 1: People were born in the United States, and the birth

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Speaker 1: rate tells the whole story.

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Speaker 3: They're not at replacement rate, and so the US population

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Speaker 3: is growing because we're importing people from other countries.

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Speaker 1: And my view is that people have children and a functioning.

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Speaker 3: Economy allows them to do that, and we don't have that,

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Speaker 3: and so you need to fix the economy and fix

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Speaker 3: the culture and make it so that people who want

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Speaker 3: to have kids can You don't just go for the

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Speaker 3: quick sugar fix of importing new people like That's my position.

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Speaker 1: And if you think that's racist, that's your problem.

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Speaker 4: I never called you a racist, but of course you

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Speaker 4: but of course you are suggesting.

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Speaker 3: And I must say, one of the reasons why people

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Speaker 3: don't like people like you in the media is that

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Speaker 3: you never say exactly what you mean.

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Speaker 1: Your slurs are all by implication.

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Speaker 3: And you're about to tell me the great replacement theory

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Speaker 3: is racist or antitionmotic whatever. The whole point of your

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Speaker 3: question was to be like, you're a scary racist.

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Speaker 1: And my response is no, I'm not. Okay, well, how

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Speaker 1: about no more lying in your questions and then I'll

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Speaker 1: answer it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, this is the same theory or as you say,

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Speaker 5: idea that has inspired the New York Buffalo shooting where.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, it's.

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Speaker 4: Not First of all, it's inspired the way it's the

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Speaker 4: one of the worst Australian guy time, just.

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Speaker 1: Stupid in the media. I guess it doesn't pay well. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I've lived.

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Speaker 3: Among people like you for too long and I don't

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Speaker 3: mean I don't mean to call you, call you stupid.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're just pretending to be.

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Speaker 2: But oh, dear Kosha, if you're going to show up

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Speaker 2: and make outrageous claims and try to connect Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 2: to mass killers, then I don't know, perhaps go to

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Speaker 2: the trouble of citing a source, have a direct quote

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Speaker 2: from the man, so otherwise you're going to look like

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Speaker 2: an absolute fool.

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Speaker 12: She really came across as someone who couldn't think on

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Speaker 12: her feet over there she Yet again, this is another

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Speaker 12: example of what we just talked about with the previous

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Speaker 12: topic with the ABC and MTG, of this adversarial style

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Speaker 12: that it doesn't sound like these reporters have any experience

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Speaker 12: in at all. And I would layer on top of

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Speaker 12: that desocratic method, which is what Tucker was doing, which

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Speaker 12: is of course where the professor, which in this case

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Speaker 12: clearly came across to be Talker is asking the student

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Speaker 12: this reporter questions that exposed us the weakness and their

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Speaker 12: own arguments, and she just completely fell down on that

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Speaker 12: and didn't give up. I watched that whole clip till

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Speaker 12: its end, and she kept throwing these pre rehearsed sort

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Speaker 12: of canned things that she had prepared, questions that she

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Speaker 12: had prepared at Tucker, and just wasn't able to think

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Speaker 12: on her feet and respond to what he was actually saying.

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Speaker 12: So I think she was definitely shown up on that one.

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Speaker 12: Talker is a free agent right now as well, so

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Speaker 12: he's really free to hit hard, and he certainly didn't

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Speaker 12: hold back there.

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Speaker 2: And she did have another go the poor girl, the

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Speaker 2: activist journalists, and this might have sounded good in her head,

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Speaker 2: but it didn't work out so well.

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Speaker 5: Well, so you don't think you harbor any kind of

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Speaker 5: responsibility for these hay crimes.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm trying to be charitable. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: be charitable. I was like, maybe you're just pretending to

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Speaker 1: be dumb. Now, I don't think it's an act. Tucker.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for taking those questions. I'm sure you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: us at that I just feel sorry. I mean, because

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Speaker 1: I got.

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Speaker 3: Here in the country so unbelievably beautiful and the people

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Speaker 3: are so cheerful and funny and cool and smart. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: your media has got to be better than ours. It

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Speaker 3: can't just be a bunch of castrated in robots reading

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Speaker 3: questions from the boss and then it turns out is exactly.

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Speaker 1: The same, maybe even a tiny bit.

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Speaker 2: Dummer Interesting times, Kosha Gator. We always love getting your insights.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. This evening coming

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Speaker 2: out Taylor Swift puts a boyfriend to work at a

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Speaker 2: London concert. Plus the latest Royal news from Kimsey Schofield.

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Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Panney Show. Joining me now is

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Speaker 2: entertainment and royal reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, Let's start with

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, who brought her American football player boyfriend Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelsey up on stage in London. Let's have a look.

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Speaker 2: And she also snuck him into that famous royal selfie

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Speaker 2: with Prince William and his children, which is the first

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Speaker 2: time she's posted a picture of Travis on her Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that, and Travis dished this dirt about

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Speaker 2: that royal meeting.

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Speaker 19: Dude, he was the coolest mother Jossa.

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Speaker 7: He was so cool.

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Speaker 19: I didn't I didn't realize this because obviously we're backstage medium,

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Speaker 19: because he was there with Little George and Charlotte and

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Speaker 19: there were an absolute delight to me. Wasn't sure if

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Speaker 19: I was supposed to like bow to them, Curtsey, just

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Speaker 19: be an American idiot and shake their hands.

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Speaker 2: What more can you tell us about this momentous occasion?

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean I can tell you that I wish

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Speaker 8: you would have explained that meeting a little bit more

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Speaker 8: delicately than the way he did. I don't usually drop

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Speaker 8: MF when talking about the Prince of Wales, but I

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Speaker 8: think I know that your audience probably doesn't care about this,

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Speaker 8: but I'm convinced that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are

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Speaker 8: going to get married. You do not drop a grid

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Speaker 8: photo of the Prince of Wales featuring your current boyfriend

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Speaker 8: and risk having to delete that photo when you guys

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Speaker 8: break up. I am one hundred percent convinced that these

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Speaker 8: two are on the way to the Little White Wedding

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Speaker 8: Chapel in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 17: And yeah, I mean to see him up on stage.

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Speaker 8: This guy who did a dating reality show where women

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Speaker 8: lined up.

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Speaker 17: I mean it was a very tacky show. Never in

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Speaker 17: his wildest dreams.

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Speaker 8: Taylor Swift quote did he think he would not only

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Speaker 8: be on stage with Taylor Swift, dating Taylor Swift, but

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Speaker 8: having access to the Prince of Wales and his family.

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Speaker 12: It is.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure he sits back and thinks, what have I

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Speaker 8: done to deserve this?

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Speaker 2: Well, you're tipping a marriage. I'm tipping the best breakup

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Speaker 2: album Taylor Swift has ever written, because we know her

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Speaker 2: material is at its best post breakup. And yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: wait for that. Either scenario I think has God pluses there. Now,

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Speaker 2: the girlfriend of tennis star Tommy Paul has caused much

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Speaker 2: heated reaction online for the manner in which she interacted

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Speaker 2: with her man during his trophy presentation at the Queen's

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Speaker 2: Club Championship in London. And here she is holding the

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Speaker 2: trophy with Tommy. Tell me why this footage has caused

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Speaker 2: such debate and I've got a much anger online. I'm

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Speaker 2: rather bemused by it. I understand why they're strong feeling,

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Speaker 2: but really is it as terrible as some say it?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, her name is Page Lorenz and she was an influencer.

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Speaker 8: Prior to dating Tommy, she also dated Armie Hammer, which

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Speaker 8: might be one of the reasons we're seeing some of

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Speaker 8: the aggression there are we you know, according to reports,

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Speaker 8: Armie Hammer was kind of aggressive. But I think people

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Speaker 8: are angry because it seems like she's trying to steal

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Speaker 8: the spotlight very you know. It's similar to Megan Markle

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Speaker 8: and the claw, the way she kind of holds on

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Speaker 8: to Prince Harry.

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Speaker 1: She's yes, very.

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Speaker 8: Possessive, and it just seems a little you know, like,

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Speaker 8: let him have his time, He's done all the work.

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Speaker 17: You're just showing up and looking glassy.

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Speaker 2: What this is What I don't understand is why she's

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Speaker 2: there in the first place. Normally, you have the partners

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Speaker 2: in the stands cheering on their partners, whether they're or female.

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Speaker 2: That's fairly conventional in the tennis world. They normally don't

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Speaker 2: get on the actual court and accept trophies with their husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: This is just unusual behavior, and who knows, it might

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Speaker 2: be a new trend that's just been started. Now JL

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Speaker 2: she's gone fully Jenny from the block again. She was

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Speaker 2: on a flight to Paris. Not only flying commercial, which

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Speaker 2: she doesn't do too often, but she was in an

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Speaker 2: economy seat. Why, Kinsey, she normally flies private or at

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Speaker 2: the very least she's on the pointy end of the plane.

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Speaker 2: She's just had this expensive holiday where she was pictured

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Speaker 2: on yachts. Why is she flying economy? Is it a stunt?

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Speaker 2: Or is she really that down to earth Jenny from

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Speaker 2: the Bloc?

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Speaker 17: Okay, she's just a girl from the Bronx. Reader, I

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Speaker 17: never forget she's just from the Bronx.

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Speaker 8: I do think that she probably is trying to look

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Speaker 8: a little bit more reliatable and to TMZ, she is

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Speaker 8: receiving a lot of sympathy because of what's going on

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Speaker 8: with Ben Affleck. And then you have a move like

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Speaker 8: this where you stumble upon Jennifer Lopez movie Star, Superstar

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Speaker 8: and the economy section of an airplane.

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Speaker 17: Uh, and that goes viral.

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Speaker 8: So I do think it's probably a positive PR move

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Speaker 8: for her. She was there with a security guard, she

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Speaker 8: was safe, She you know, kept her head down and

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Speaker 8: there was no diva behavior. And I think that she's

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Speaker 8: been criticized a lot for some of that diva behavior,

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Speaker 8: and maybe this is her trying to set the record straight.

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Speaker 8: But you know j Loo heading to a fashion you know,

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Speaker 8: heading to a fashion week event too, I'd be so

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Speaker 8: concerned that my my, my bags, my shoes, my my

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Speaker 8: stuff would get crushed.

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Speaker 7: Not j Lo.

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Speaker 17: She's just one of the girls from the Bronx.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's just she's just so down to earth.

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Speaker 2: But with a security guard there, I mean she was

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Speaker 2: in the middle State. I'd take that more seriously.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 2: Will Commentators have been remarking on Princess Charlotte's clear fiction

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Speaker 2: for her mother, describing her full of admiration for Princess

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Speaker 2: Catherine as she continues to battle cancer. I would have

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Speaker 2: said that was pretty obvious. But tell me about this

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Speaker 2: commentary that we're hearing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that this is We're caring a lot

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Speaker 8: about Princess Charlotte lately. I mean, between this and the

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Speaker 8: Taylor Swift apparently Charlotte was the Taylor Swift instigator and

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Speaker 8: was just full of a little.

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Speaker 17: Firecracker at the Taylor Swift concert.

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Speaker 8: And then we get this article from Hello talking about how,

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Speaker 8: you know, her mother's illness has made them best friends

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Speaker 8: and they are very She's obviously very protective of her mother,

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Speaker 8: but as she gets older, they've grown incredibly closer and

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Speaker 8: they truly are. You know, they're bonding and they're really

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Speaker 8: good friends these days. I think that so great to

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Speaker 8: hear about these children. They're typically so protective of them

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Speaker 8: and what little things now.

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Speaker 2: And they all seem happy. It all seems happy and

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Speaker 2: well adjusted, which is great to see. Kinsey Schofield. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for your time this evening. That's it

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Speaker 2: from me. Up next is Newsnight. I'll see you tomorrow

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Speaker 2: for Left is Losing It at nine thirty. Good night,