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Speaker 1: I want you, Jason Lawrence, tell me what's you know.

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Speaker 2: We like to get in members of the Victorian Police

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Speaker 2: and probe the different areas.

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Speaker 3: But the Mounted.

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Speaker 4: Police, yes, they came on the horses.

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Speaker 3: Called the Mountain Police.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought they were the Mountain Police on their horse.

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Speaker 2: We've had the drug squad. God, the sales department was

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Speaker 2: nervous that day.

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Speaker 5: Jason, you can't be saying that we've had them all.

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Speaker 5: We thought we'd have them, had them all. But I'm

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Speaker 5: excited about today's police officer, Jason.

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Speaker 3: Which Clint has history with. Would you like to do

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Speaker 3: the introduction.

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Speaker 6: Former the eight Supercars driver Extraordinary now PSO cam Conval

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Speaker 6: joins us.

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Speaker 4: Good more, good.

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Speaker 7: Morning, thanks for having me and Jesus. Great to see

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Speaker 7: you again.

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Speaker 8: Clint.

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Speaker 7: It's been a while and the last time I saw

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Speaker 7: you here we go, I think I gave you whiplash

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Speaker 7: and maybe a little bit of subtle bruising.

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Speaker 5: Was it in a police car bringing him down? Was

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Speaker 5: he in the back of a Divvy.

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Speaker 3: Van outside revolver revolver?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I was in the back of an ambulance.

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Speaker 8: It's way worse than that.

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Speaker 1: What happens, Clint?

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Speaker 7: Should I tell the story or no. So look, I

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Speaker 7: was very fortunate for about eight years to drive the

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Speaker 7: F one two seater around it in my former life

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Speaker 4: But I've always wanted to do that.

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Speaker 7: The great Clint stand Away, I'm a big fan of I.

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Speaker 7: My add I said, oh, Clint's going to come for

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Speaker 7: a right. So I think over eight years I'd taken

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Speaker 7: over three hundred people in this car, never locked a brake,

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Speaker 7: never dropped a wheel off the track. I think it

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Speaker 7: was a Friday morning. Clint first up, yep, great to

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Speaker 7: meet you.

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Speaker 3: Clint.

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Speaker 7: We go flying around the back break into I think

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Speaker 7: turn ten the car who turns hard left, so we

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Speaker 7: bounce off the left wall, We go across the track

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Speaker 7: into the right wall, and then we end up in

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Speaker 7: the tie bundle. Pretty much the car looked like a canoe.

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Speaker 7: I had to walk away from the bike there is

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Speaker 7: I hope I'm not giving you any that was there.

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Speaker 1: It was a proper I can feel those bumps now.

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Speaker 4: How fast we going when that happens.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a V ten Colesworth MINARTI two seedars,

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Speaker 7: so we're probably doing about two hundred and forty down there.

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Speaker 7: When I hit the brake pedal and of course, you know,

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Speaker 7: any good race driver blames the equipment guy, so that's

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Speaker 7: what I'll stick to. Yeah, but it was not driver era.

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Speaker 1: That was so calm.

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Speaker 6: He I still recall because it's two seed obviously, and

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Speaker 6: he got out first and he's I could hear him.

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Speaker 6: You're saying, Clint to stay there. I'm going to get

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Speaker 6: you out. Just keep calm.

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Speaker 1: Were scared and shooting message?

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Speaker 4: Oh you both were?

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Speaker 5: And is that when you got kicked out of formula and.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah joined the Big Pole's a pso not

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Speaker 7: long after that. Note, look it was anyway, I'm glad

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Speaker 7: he was okay. But credit to Clint. They there was

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Speaker 7: two cars and they said, well, really we only got

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Speaker 7: three quarters of a lap, and no, he's true, but

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Speaker 3: We were back in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just no way. Do you know you drive?

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Speaker 3: Of course?

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Speaker 1: Was that just for the footage? I subbed in a

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Speaker 1: new driver correct?

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Speaker 5: Do you know this might make you feel better that

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Speaker 5: he drove in the Celebrity Grand Prix race and he

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Speaker 5: crashed into the back of Rachel Finch's car and made

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Speaker 5: her roll the car.

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Speaker 4: She was on the roof.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't going to bring that up, but clearly I

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Speaker 7: taught him both things. I know.

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Speaker 2: You know, remember her daughter was sitting there going why

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Speaker 2: is mummy's car flipping over?

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Speaker 1: I know, man, do you know what? I think she

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Speaker 5: To be honest, well we did watch her have to

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Speaker 8: The breaked way too early lovely to see you.

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Speaker 4: How can you be trusted driving a police car?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well no it was.

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Speaker 7: So I'm currently a Protective Services officer. So we drive

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Speaker 7: to the stations, but and I drive well under the

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Speaker 7: speed limit, I might add.

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Speaker 8: So so let's.

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Speaker 3: Dive into the PSO world. Right. Are you classed as

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Speaker 3: members of the Victorian Police.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we are.

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Speaker 7: We're sworn members, so twelve weeks training at the academy,

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Speaker 7: so very similar training to police officers as far as

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Speaker 7: defensive tactics law, but most of our law and our

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Speaker 7: training evolves around the transport hub, so a designated areas.

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Speaker 7: So we're out at the stations, trains, buses, trains, trams yep.

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Speaker 7: So that's our designated areal, vicinity of designated air. So

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Speaker 7: effectively you could call us transit police. I guess, but

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Speaker 7: we work with the Transit Safety and Public Command Division

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Speaker 7: and try and keep the commuters safe every.

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Speaker 5: Day and everything to keep passengers safe and keep the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, Lauren.

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Speaker 7: And look, I think it's a real community engagement part

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Speaker 7: course we're there to uphold the law and make sure

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Speaker 7: community is safe, but you know, we can be helping

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Speaker 7: people walk to their cars, people might have lost property.

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Speaker 7: We're really I guess that front line where people might

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Speaker 7: report incidents on that PTV network, So.

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Speaker 4: You're not checking people have tapped on and tapped.

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Speaker 1: Off, well the market.

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Speaker 7: It's funny you should say that we can get inspectors,

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Speaker 7: but look that's what the authorized officers for Metro are therefore,

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Speaker 7: so we tend not to do that. We do have

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Speaker 7: the power to check my keys, and sometimes you might

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Speaker 7: see someone jump over a barrier and you stop them

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Speaker 7: and then they might have warrants or something like that,

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Speaker 7: effectively we are there just to make sure everyone's safe.

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Speaker 4: What it makes me feel safe when I see you guys.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's good to know.

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Speaker 2: But also what about what powers do you have because

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Speaker 4: Look, he's got a gun.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a gun? I do?

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, Well we have the same operational no tasers,

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Speaker 7: but they're coming. They are coming, which is fantastic. So

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Speaker 3: Can you use Quint now?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 7: No, no, Clinton as I've always been a big fan

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Speaker 2: So powers when it comes to peris, because I'm sure

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Speaker 2: there'd be people at the train stations going, oh bloody

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Speaker 2: more cops.

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Speaker 3: They can't stop me. Yes, you have the power to Yeah,

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Speaker 7: We have the power to search, you know, under different acts, drugs, poisons,

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Speaker 7: you know, controller weapons act so effectively like police. We

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Speaker 7: stop some under search them, dodging, not at all.

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Speaker 8: No, no, it.

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Speaker 1: Looks upstanding citizen.

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Speaker 8: Jacks absolutely, as you all do. Of course, not at all. No,

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Speaker 7: We don't profile people and and and anything like that.

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Speaker 7: We need to have genuine belief or suspicion that you

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Speaker 7: might be carrying weapon.

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Speaker 3: But we're in the clear, guys in the city.

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Speaker 1: We do have.

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Speaker 7: We do have operations where the Chief Commissioner might make

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Speaker 7: or an omni search, so where we can search people

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Speaker 7: under the Control of Weapons Act. But effectively we have

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Speaker 7: about eighty to ninety percent of police powers not road

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Speaker 7: trafficking in that designated area.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what. We're going to go to

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Speaker 2: a quick break. Can you stay with us, camp? We

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Speaker 2: are doing the pope PI this morning. We're talking about PSOs.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Cam's actually made the news before while doing

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Speaker 2: his job. We're going to dive into that. On the

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Speaker 2: other side of this.

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Speaker 9: A footy fan who almost died from cardiac arrest has

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Speaker 9: been reunited with the hero PSOs who helped save his life.

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Speaker 9: They performed CPR, one of them drawing on his pressure

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Speaker 2: Cameron mc convoy is journing. It's this morning, Bill, Sorry,

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Speaker 2: what happened there? What was the situation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, that was.

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Speaker 7: An incident there that happened right at North Richmond Railway station.

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Speaker 7: We were posted there. Myself and my offside of Ryan

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Speaker 8: We went across.

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Speaker 7: Initially we thought that it was maybe an epileptic fit

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Speaker 7: everyone really should if you can do it. And look,

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Speaker 7: small part. Av were there within about seven minutes ambulance Victoria,

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Speaker 7: but he had a massive cardeach arrest and took quite

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Speaker 7: I think Lake forties brendan As say. It was great

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Speaker 7: that's what we're there for. We're not just there to

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Speaker 7: enforce the law. We're there to help people. And you

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Speaker 7: do see people and die straits and at their time

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Speaker 2: You know what I find frightening now and you guys

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Speaker 2: see it on the front line. Knife crimes, you know,

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Speaker 2: like they've got guns and weapons are out of control.

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Speaker 3: In the US. We've got a real offenders especially, we've

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Speaker 2: Really bad problem with young people carrying knives at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Are you concerned going to work putting on the uniform?

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Speaker 2: Are you seeing it?

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Speaker 8: I think I'm wary.

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Speaker 7: You always have to have your awareness, you know, we

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Speaker 7: get trained to have situational awareness, read people, you know,

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Speaker 7: and it might be that there's a person seeing such

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Speaker 7: I think social media has a lot to blame for it.

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Speaker 7: You know that a lot of these young kids see

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Speaker 8: The more we talk about it, the.

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Speaker 3: More they can go to b W on buy not.

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Speaker 1: You know, the train stations especially safe places to be.

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Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, yeah they are. They are look like anywhere

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Speaker 7: it's not going to you know, it's not going to

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Speaker 7: I would say, you know, confidently, trained stations are safe

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Speaker 7: I finished here, we're out there patrolling. So you know,

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Speaker 7: it's getting better.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people in Melbourne peace of mind.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Have you thought about some sort of segue or something.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking, as you say patrolling at also, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Hobby boards or something like that, I'd.

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Speaker 7: Fall off because I'm not very coordinated. As Clint knows,

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Speaker 7: keep it more. We do do a lot of steps.

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Speaker 7: You know, most shifts we're doing upwards of twenty thousand steps.

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Speaker 7: And that's good because we need to be proactive and

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's for us, Clint, for anybody wanting

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So we have what's called a CQP Comfortable Qualification Program.

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Speaker 7: After eighteen months as a PSO, you can apply to

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Speaker 7: the academy because our course is twelve weeks and police

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Speaker 7: is thirty one thirty two weeks, but you will obviously

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Speaker 7: I did. Paylight pays pays good. Yeah, pays good. I

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Speaker 3: But holidays good.

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Speaker 7: Nine weeks and you'll leave same as police. And looking

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Speaker 7: at work life balance is something that Big Polar big

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Speaker 7: on and I've got to say that in this role

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Speaker 7: you do get a lot of that. Three or four

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: And we were thinking our only backup would be doing

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Speaker 2: MC work outside Michael Hill Jeweler.

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Speaker 1: And only what is it how long in the academy?

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Speaker 8: Twelve weeks?

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Speaker 3: They're going to give me a gun after twelve weeks?

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Speaker 8: Well not straight away?

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Speaker 1: Goodbye.

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Speaker 8: I approve a good character which I don't know you are.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Cam, thanks for coming in this morning. Appreciated.

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Speaker 2: We have the work that Victoria Police doing their PSOs

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Speaker 2: out there keeping as this man he did drove you

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Speaker 2: into a wall, so he did.

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Speaker 3: Just gone at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Lauren, Jason Lauren, wake up feeling good.

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Speaker 5: I know for one hundred Jason Lauren, only them on socials.

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