1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Fox Cricket's podcast 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: The Follow On. My name is Courtney Walsh and today 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: we're joined by former Australian all arounder Shane Lee for 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: a chat that I'm really looking forward to as we 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: discuss cricket, music and life. Shane played forty five One 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: Day Internationals for Australia and secured forty eight wickets at 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: an average of twenty five while also contributing almost five 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: hundred runs with the bat. He enjoyed a seller first 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: class career with New South Wales as well, and he's 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: the older brother of Fox Cricket analyst and former Australian 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: star Brett Lee. From next Monday on KO Sports and 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Fox Cricket, viewers will get the chance to catch the 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Lee brothers and their great mates Gavin Robinson, Richard Cheekwe 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: and Bred McNamara, who were all outstanding cricketers in their 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: own right in the documentary discussing their second love as 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: members of the band Six and Out. But firstly they've 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: got a big summity gum, so we'll catch up with 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Shane now. Shane, welcome to the program. We'd love to 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: ask you what is Shane Lee up to now. I'm 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: sure Australian cricket lovers and also those around the world 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: would love to know more about what you're up to. 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: Well, first, Courtney, it's a lot less intimidating sitting across 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: from this, Courtney Welsh. 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: You're not the one that I facing it. 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: In the nineteen nineties for the West Indies. So it's 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: nice to see your face, mate. But lots going on 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: in my life mate. I've always been bid in the 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 2: media space past creat I co founded a company Caught Insight. 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: We were produced on media buyers and planners. We owned 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: a public relations firm as well, and we saw that 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: quite a few years ago to Harold Mitchell. So since 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: enso been consulting in the media tech space. But yeah, 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: playing in the band and a father of three mates, so. 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: I'm pretty busy man. 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: When we had a chat yesterday, just briefly before this, 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I think you're off to a nice lunch. You're about 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: to enjoy a good bottle of red. That's part of 38 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: your business, isn't it. 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: That's what you do. It sounds like a dream job 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: to me. 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Been able to get out there and talk to people 42 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: entertained in some very fine red wines and some of 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: the finest food available in Australia. 44 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my three passions in life always been sport, 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: music and business. I'll say four passions lunch. I don't 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: want to go lunch, and so I started a podcast 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: called Lunch with Lee, which was very the best few podcasts, 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: and ituned of Spotify about three years ago. But since 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: then I've been traveling around interviewing people from those three 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: walks of life. I've had everyone from Gladsbury articularly on 51 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: the podcast, through to Robbie Williams and am Monico. So yeah, mate, 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: it's one of my wife says what are you doing today? 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: And I said, I'm going to work, I'm going to lunch. 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: She looks to be quite funny, but it's going on. 55 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: And I've always been curious in other people and interests, 56 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: and so yeah, that the podcast format is a really, 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: really good format for me. 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Who had the who had the sound of words of advice? 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Was it Robbie Williams or was it Gladys Who did 60 00:02:59,160 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: you prefer to interview that? 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: I loved them both for different reasons. I thought Glass 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: was very sweet. I thought you did a fantastic job 63 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: during COVID. But Robbie Williams, I said Tom on the 64 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: podcast he's probably the best modern day performer. And then 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: during the podcast you had that sort of turning the 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: tables around starting interviewing me a little bit. So it 67 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 2: was it was a really really it was a nice 68 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: discussion both real people, and you can really find that 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: in new interview someone whether they're putting on a front 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: or night. But those two in particularly I thought they 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: had They're very charismatic and had a lot of the 72 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: things to say that were very personable. 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: And by rob Williams were of course referring to the 74 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: former well not the former but the English pop star 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: and Cladys burgically in the former New South Wales premiere. 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: I've got a question for you when we talk about 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: your love of food, but your love of cricket, your 78 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: love of life and your love of music. What came 79 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: first for you? Was it cricket into music and what 80 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: was the bigger passion for Youelly? 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: Cricket? 82 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: Growing up, my mum played the piano, so we would 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: sit around, myself and my two brothers, bred my younger 84 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: brother Grant would sit around and mum would be playing 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: a swany river on the piano. 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: We'd be singing as young kids, so music was always 87 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: in our life. 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, for a real young age, I found a 89 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: real passion with ball sports. 90 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: I love soccer, football, basketball. 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: And in summer it was cricket for me and that 92 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: turned out to be a game that I was best at. 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: And luckily I had two younger brothers that could bowl 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: to me all afternoon pretty much from the time we 95 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: got home from school until Mum said come in it 96 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: was bath time. Yeah, really really good fun memories growing 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: up down the South Coast and having a young fast 98 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: ball of bread. 99 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: There's always good practice in the backyard. 100 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I was going to say, when you are sitting in 101 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: that backyard and the conditions obviously in the new south 102 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Well South Coast are conducive to cricket, but you also 103 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: get some storms coming through when you're facing in the backyard. 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: Was he getting them to rear up into your ribs? 105 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: Did you wear a few blows from him as a younger? 106 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: As a younger, I suppose Shane Lee? And conversely, did 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: you give him a little bit of stick back? 108 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did, mate. 109 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: I think I got in the backyard when I was 110 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty four and then I bulb bred 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: out about second ball. I went inside. Brett was crying 112 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: and Mum, Dan, Miss Mackison, go and bald your brother 113 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: who was just bold you for four hours. 114 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: So I did that. 115 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: I think I'm not going back for twelve and the 116 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: seven innings. But it was always good fun. 117 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he gave. He gave as good as as he got. 118 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: He was always always had. 119 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: A beautiful action from a young age, very very rhythmical 120 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: and very strong. If anyone had to bowl, I think 121 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: Brett by one hundred and fifty clips now for nearly 122 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 2: twenty years. 123 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: He's a tremendous athlete. 124 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 4: Even now. 125 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: I just before we get to I suppose your music 126 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: career and your own career. Brett plain in Birmingham in July, 127 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: and I think more than held his ownly and clearly 128 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: was the fittest guy around. Do you do you there's 129 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: a life eating fine food and read keep you as 130 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: fit as what bread is at the moment? Or I 131 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: think you had some kne injuries at the tailing of 132 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: your career. Is it harder for you to get out 133 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: there and bowl yourself? 134 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: Well? 135 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: I can't buying more. I played a game for the 136 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: Masters play for the Act. Last weekend we played against Victoria. 137 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: I won't tell you how I went because it wasn't 138 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: very good, but the guy I still love the game. 139 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 2: My son now is nine, Thomas, who really knew his cricket. 140 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: So we're playing a lot of backyard crew at the moment. 141 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: But the old taped up tennis ball, so many of 142 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: the things that I was doing with both my brothers 143 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: many moons ago down there in e flat, so I'm 144 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: now sort of reliving with my with my son Thomas's nine. 145 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: Lovely. 146 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: That does sound like the generation and it's one of 147 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: those things that Australians love, and we know cricket lovers 148 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: around the world love though the cricket ball with the tape. 149 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: There's leagues in Pakistani that we've seen last week on 150 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: the ODA coverage and it really can sharpen your skills. 151 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. 152 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: We always used to cut the sort of the edges 153 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: off the bat so they were quite thin. We take 154 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: up the tennis ball so you could swing it both 155 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: ways and then pretty much like Bradman used to do 156 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: with a cricket stuff with a golf ball against corrugated 157 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: eye and tank. We're sort of do excember things, trying 158 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: to make it harder for ourselves at the backyard, so 159 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: when you finally went into the middle, it was a 160 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: lot easier. But yeah, and I suppose I out of 161 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: playing all those times in the backyard, six and out 162 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: was a name born to our band. They were currently 163 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: going to Victoria around with. 164 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: It's exciting. 165 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Well, and that's part of the reason we're talking to 166 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: you today. The second innings six and out. There's a 167 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: doc o series documentary series that we screened on Fox 168 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: Sports and on KO Sports after the ODI next Monday, sorry, 169 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: the T twenty next Monday in Hobart and leading into 170 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: the border Gavisca Trophy which really looking forward to. And 171 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: I've seen a few clips there. But it strikes me 172 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about six and out. It strikes 173 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: me that there's a lot of similarities in cricket to 174 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: music in that you sit around into the locker room, 175 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: or you sit around the bandroom or the garage, you tinker, 176 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: you try to find your best. You might be shining 177 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: the ball and trying to get the best of it. 178 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: You're also tuning some strings, etc. 179 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: What was it about cricket and also in music that 180 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: made you so drawn to both. 181 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think over the years, I always found it 182 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: quite interesting that all the sports and want to be 183 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: rock stars, and all the rock stars wanted to be. 184 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: Sportsmen, And it's almost like an opposite. It's attract there. 185 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: To be really really good at sport, you have to 186 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: be somewhat unemotional, and by that I mean you have 187 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: to be able to do what you do day in 188 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: day out. So whether it's you know, you're having trouble 189 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: at home, you're having trouble with the selectors, you're not 190 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: scoring many rounds, you have to go out and do 191 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: your job, no matter What's that sort of an unemotional 192 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: sort of state of mind. Where to be really good 193 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: at the arts music you have to Italian emotionally. You 194 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: go out and put a show one you're playing in 195 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: front of a group of people. 196 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: You can't be within yourself. You've got to be tailor giving. 197 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: So it's a bit of an opposite's attract But yeah, 198 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: music for us, and we've got very very lucky to 199 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: have played a career. And you said, well, so you know, 200 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: thirteen years I think it was, and Mat it's a 201 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: really really good friend. But out of that to have 202 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: forward mates, one of them being my brother and Brad McNamara, 203 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Richard Chief when Garvia Robinson and for us to be 204 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: playing twenty five years now as a band, it's pretty amazing. 205 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: And we always sort of made excuses probably over. 206 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: The last x amount of years, and while we couldn't 207 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: play live, sort of gotten the wave things. And then 208 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: when Gavin Pattie was diagnamed with brain cancer, we thought 209 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: we sort of sat back and thought, you, our life's 210 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: too short. We're sitting on something that's really really precious 211 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: to us. 212 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: We might not be the. 213 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: Greatest band in the world when we started, but we're 214 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: fantastic pub band now. 215 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: A little bit more of that. 216 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: I think we've got a good show and we thought, look, 217 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: we're sort of wasting our opportunities here, let's get out 218 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: and play. We did that last year and we absolutely 219 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: loved it. Quite we're now this year we're doing Australian tour. 220 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: We playing at every Test match venue pretty much after 221 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: day one. So go on to the six and Out 222 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: official Instagram site and you'll see where we're playing, guys 223 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: and come check us out. 224 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: It's going to be a knight of rock and roll. 225 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: It's going to be great fun. 226 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: It was a real pleasure last year talking to your 227 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: to the five of you leading into your come back 228 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: to your I suppose and as we say this is 229 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: the second year is coming up. What struck me was 230 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the matshift that you all had for each other, the care. 231 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about mental health. Understandably, you 232 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: guys in their forties and fifties can have some times 233 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: overbearing or overwhelming sort of feelings. But with Gab having 234 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: that issue, a former outstanding bowler, rally around to help 235 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: each other, what lessons did you sort of learn through 236 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: that period with each other. 237 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: Well, it makes you realize how close you are to you, 238 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: what we are to each other, and how much we 239 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: mean to each other. We're always tired as cricketers, but 240 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: I think when you spend so much time they're not 241 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: only on the cricket field but in the change room, 242 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: but they're now I suppose the music rehearsal rooms and 243 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: going on two together, you learn a lot about each other. 244 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: We know each other probably better than some of our 245 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: family members do in a. 246 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: Lot of ways. So yeah, it's really really special. 247 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: And when Gavin got the horrible news and the way 248 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: that he's dealt with that personally, it's been that's taught 249 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: me a lot, only about Gavin, but about myself. 250 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: You know what has really really important to you? 251 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: And when it comes down to it, it's your family 252 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: and friends that are the most important thing. The crickets 253 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: that they go, the World Cups that you played in, 254 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: they go. It's just it's a photo on the wall now, 255 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: but the true things of life are your friends and 256 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: family that mean the most. 257 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Just having to look through a few clips from the series, 258 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Sikham and we see Steve Wore sort of talking to you. 259 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: Obviously had the joy of playing alongside Steve, who was 260 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: an outstding cricketer. Who are the best musicians that jumped 261 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: up on stage with you, through you, through what's now 262 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: continuing on into a into a third decade, I suppose 263 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: of a fourth decade of six and out. 264 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: Who are some of the best musicians you've played with? 265 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: And why, oh a lot a lot of guys with 266 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: jam with We got to record a song. We wrote 267 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: a song called bring It On. This is off our 268 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: second ADP, which got Nis and sang from the Angels. 269 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: It was fantastic. Dave Gleason. We also wrote a song 270 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: called Totally Average that Dave Gleason sing the vocals on. 271 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: You can you can check out those both on YouTube, 272 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: but yeah, just those two in particular. Gavin Robertson is 273 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: actually a fantastic musician his own right. No only a 274 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: very very good spin ball for Australia, but he's drum 275 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: with the Angels in recent years. 276 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: He's a proper musician. So yeah, they sort of three 277 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: stick out. 278 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, we've been lucky to meet Garth Porter and 279 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: Darrell browth Waite and he sort of guys and Jimmy 280 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: Barnes just just through cricket and then loving cricket has 281 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: allowed us to jam with some of. 282 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: These guys over the years. The big one for me. 283 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: That a lot of people won't know here in Australia 284 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: a guy called Chris Thomas. Chris Thomas, it's probably five 285 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: record producers of all time produced the Beatles White Album, 286 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: The Sex Festivals in excess. Elton John and I've got 287 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: to just Wikipedia page the other day because I know pretty 288 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: well now and I was going to change it for 289 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: six hour in there, but someone took it down pretty quickly. 290 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: I wish that you might draw a bit of traffic 291 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: there that would be even better. And it's interesting when 292 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: you talk about that, just watching just watching the in 293 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Melbourne last Monday, Australia, Pakistan and in attendance with Chris 294 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Martin from Coldplay. Mick Jagger, we know loved his cricket, 295 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: was a regular sort of visitor that crossover. Again, it's 296 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: an interesting thing. What if Muso's told you about watching 297 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: cricket and watching sport, does it help them relax? 298 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: I think it does, And particularly the longer form of 299 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: the game and Test Briget, you can really sit there 300 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: and sort of get away from from from the rest 301 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: of your life and the pressures of work, just really 302 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: sort of get immersed into the game. 303 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: Gives you some thinking time. I think people who have 304 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: grown up with test. 305 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: Frigate in a long form of the game really appreciate 306 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: that and understand what that means and what summer means 307 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: to them. You know, as a kid, we'd always get 308 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: quick me on. You go for a run around the morning, 309 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: you play your own frigate, the test match. Beyond the afternoon, 310 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: you might go for a swim at lunch time and 311 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: come back your great memories growing up and it's something 312 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: that we hold you to our heart here in Australia. 313 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: We might move on to your cricket. You talked about 314 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: Courtney Walsh. I suppose my namesake. I was about eight 315 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: before he toured for the first time, and I remember 316 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: watching the West Indies Bowl in Ballarat, my hometown, and 317 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: they were frighteningly quick at the East and Oval. Now 318 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: you faced the West Indies during your career, you face Courtney. 319 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: How intimidating was it to face them when you were playing? 320 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 321 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: The first game I played for Australia at nine to 322 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: ninety five Adelaide Oval, the attack was Ambrose Welsh as 323 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: Phil Simmons was buying as well. But those three I'm 324 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: Patrick Pattersons. You could see the bottom of his boot 325 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: in his livery strike, so the spikes will be pointing 326 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: straight at your face. Yeah, his leg was almost above 327 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: the umpire's shoulder. That's how it sort of high, sort 328 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: of reached up and pulled that front leg down. But 329 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: that was super fast. So I remember playing a county 330 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: game for Somerset in England and I played against Corney 331 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: Welsh and he I was next in the bat and 332 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: he smashed the Somerset batsman his name was Peter Bilas 333 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: went straight through his grill and smashed his face in. 334 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: It was blood all over the wicket and had to 335 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: walk out. It takes center with blood on the crease, 336 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: so that was quite intimidating. But after field they were 337 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: always all lovely guys. I didn't say too much, but 338 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: when I had a ball in the hand of petrified. 339 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: On your career, you know, we're talking about some knee injuries, 340 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: lady in your twenties, but you had the thrill of 341 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: going away for a couple of World Cups. What were 342 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: the biggest highlights for you in terms of your own 343 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: cricketing career. 344 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: Playing your first game when I just mentioned at Adelaide 345 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: Oval walkie out Green and Gold for the first time 346 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: was a huge thrill. Playing my first game with Brett. 347 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: I think Brett and I played eighteen games for Australia together. 348 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: I don't think we lost one either when we played together, 349 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: which was which was really really a great effort. And 350 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: then the ninety nine World Cup, even though I didn't 351 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: play in the final, I think I was twelfth man, 352 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: th nighth man with Damian Martin and Brendon Julian just 353 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: be part of that team and I remember Ricky Plonny 354 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: would lead the team. So there and we went out 355 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: to the middle of the Lords. Afterward, won you mentioned 356 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: the Rhyan stones before they were in the change room. 357 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: The wives and girlfriends were in there were celebrated, but 358 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: we went out just as a team in the middle 359 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: of Lords. 360 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: At home at. 361 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Cricket when it was dark about midnight and Rickie Plinty 362 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: got on Tom Moody's shoulders and did the team sign 363 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: which is now underneath the Southern Cross. I stand a 364 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: sprigget wattle in my hand and native of a naval 365 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: land Australia. You bloody second verse that was the first 366 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: and it goes on and for me, I'll get goosebumps. 367 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell that story with a very very special memory. 368 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: We're speaking of you, bloody beauty and goosebumps. It's twenty 369 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: five years since well almost twenty five years since your 370 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: brother debuted against India at the MCG in Test. 371 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 4: Cricketing boxing day. 372 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: That memory for you, how does that fit for you 373 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, Brett playing on such a 374 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: stage and Test cricket. 375 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: It's very very vivid in my memory. 376 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 2: I went down with two good mates of mine, got 377 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: with Andrew Yates and Craig Hughes and to watch the match. 378 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: We stayed in Melbourne. We were there when he got 379 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: he Baldies first over. We've got a wicket first over. 380 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: So I'm very very proud of him that he did 381 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: so well. The funny marriage from that bread and trying 382 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: to put some highlights in his hair to blonde his 383 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: hair a little bit impressed the young ladies back then. 384 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: But he's there turned irange slightly iron so we'll give 385 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: a bit of stick about that ere now. 386 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm still envious of it though at least he's got 387 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: it and he still got that fine fine mop. 388 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 4: Of hair himself as someone who loved. 389 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: One day, as someone who loved one day crickets. Been 390 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: a bit of chatter over the last week about whether 391 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: or not we've devalued the game a little bit in 392 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: Australia based on I suppose a result in Perth where 393 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: Australia was well beaten by Pakistan to squornder the series. 394 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 4: At home. 395 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: They are the running World champions and we have a 396 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: crowded calendar with the Border Gavascot Trophy around the corner, 397 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: the ICC Champions Tour next February. What are your thoughts 398 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: on where it sits in modern cricket the odies. 399 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: That's a really good question and I'm really torn with 400 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: this answer because it's a game that gave me the opportunity. 401 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: It's the thing that bought my house. So I'm pretty 402 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: proud of playing for Australia in that format. 403 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 3: Saying that. 404 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: These players now the schedule is so busy, they have 405 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: so many games. You need to manage coming games you 406 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: can play so they burn themselves out and happy you're 407 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: right for the big matches. 408 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: But when I see a real second. 409 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: Street team, and I'm taking nothing away from the players 410 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: playing in those matches, but it's not the number one side. 411 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: It's I think as a spectator to go along, you're 412 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: quite slightly disappointed because you pay your money to the 413 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: ticket and you want to see the best players play, 414 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: and yeah, I don't think we saw that in. 415 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: The recent games. 416 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: Do we look at different teams obviously, and we have 417 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: those champion players and you've seen them as much as 418 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: any coming through. Do we risk losing a little bit 419 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: of momentum or is it completely different thing? When they 420 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: step out in Perth on Thursday week for the boarder 421 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Game of SCO Trophy and what are you looking forward 422 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: to from that series? 423 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be a fantastic series. 424 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: I think there's going to be despice in this series, 425 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: definitely with the balls Campering issue in and around the 426 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: India team and particularly where Britain Ponting's now come out 427 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: and he's given it to the colleague. 428 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: Man move Ricky. What are you doing mate? 429 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: You're going to fire that guy up. He's a world 430 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: class player and he will fire up very very different teams, 431 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: lots of experience. We have a world class attack stuff. 432 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean Haslewood in line like come on, doesn't get 433 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: much better than that and b B well batting is fragile. 434 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: I think it's probably one of the weaker bating lineups 435 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 2: I've seen re Australian Test side in a while. I mean, 436 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: Sween's gonna come in, he's under pressure, he's never battle 437 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: as an opener. I think that's a specialist position. Kwaja 438 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: is to stand out for me at the moment. He's 439 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 2: going to play really really well. Lava Shane I think 440 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: has been how to form for quite a while, as 441 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: has Steve Smith and then and then Obviously you've got 442 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: Marsh that batting is six so and Head probably able 443 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: to stand out as well. So Head and Bis mcgwaja, 444 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: I think we'll play well, that's a question. 445 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: So how the other guy's going to go to this series. 446 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: As a young cricketer coming in now, Nathan's twenty five. 447 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: You come in, you talk about the match in Adelaide 448 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: and the ODI when you come out. What are the 449 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: emotions you go through in the twenty four hours before 450 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: you make your debut for Australia and what can we 451 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: expect from him? We've seen him excel at number three 452 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: over the last twelve or so months for South Australia. 453 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: For Australia, A made thirty nine and two knocks at 454 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: the mcg this week. 455 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 4: Do you sleep at all? Do you need to talk 456 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 4: to someone? 457 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: Do you? 458 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: I guess you won't flicking text back in the day. 459 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: But what do you do when you're about to play 460 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: for Australia in that twenty four hours before the first 461 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: ball is bold? 462 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: Well, you tell yourself you listen to just another game, 463 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: go through your routine, don't change anything different. 464 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: The reason you've got there is the reason. Are you 465 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: playing well? 466 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: So you've got nothing your bat to spot, you say, 467 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: I think to yourself. But it's really really difficult because 468 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: it is hard to sleep you walk out there, particularly 469 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: if Australian's a tice at bat. So he walks out 470 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: onto that ground and in Perth with a full hopefully 471 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: a full astraight crowd there, he's going to know that 472 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: he's for a fight and Boomer is going to take 473 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: the new ball. 474 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: He's going to be on his days. 475 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: It looks like a very very well organized player, but 476 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: like a lot of players that would have been brought 477 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: up with Teach twenty three and they sort of stay 478 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: inside the ball a bit, so chances that they could 479 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: they could nick off quite a bit. 480 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: So I have to wait and see. 481 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: But I hope he does really really well. It seems 482 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: a really good piecent sort of bloke. He's worked hard 483 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: to get there. I'm come with the outcome of the man. 484 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: Hopefully I'll put you on your toes. Prediction for the 485 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: for the series. 486 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: I think I think Australia to do well. I think 487 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: they maybe. 488 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: Draw the series. I think it might be too all. 489 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: I think there would be one draw. They have to 490 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: play well. 491 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: If our batting gets some holes, and I don't really 492 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: know who's next. I think that we had in the past, 493 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: kick you through the nineties and two thousands, we always 494 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: had two or three guys really just sort of chopping 495 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: at the bit to take someone's dating position. I can't 496 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: see that right now. I think they've tried Harris. I 497 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: don't think he's the answer. 498 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: Bancraft. 499 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: I think they should have picked him two years ago, 500 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: but they didn't do that, so he must really really 501 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: can't work out where he stands now. So yeah, it's 502 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: going to come to about batting and how well we 503 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: can handle pressure, particularly when Boomer and their pace attack 504 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: of steaming in the wig's doing a little bit. 505 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: Well. 506 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: Look, Shane, I really appreciate you joining us a head 507 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: of a big summer for yourself. I think you've got 508 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: to gig at the Camfield in near up the Stadium 509 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: next Thursday night. Really looking forward to watching six and 510 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: Out the Second Innings, the docu series on Fox Sports 511 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: and KO Sports from next Monday. 512 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: Absolute pleasure to have you aboard. 513 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, and thanks of Fox Sports too. They've been fantastic. 514 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: It's a great broadcast and I can't wait for the 515 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: sumhere cricket and go to the Aussies. 516 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 3: Come on, we can do this.