WEBVTT - Sussan Ley's media blitz

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<v Speaker 1>This week, we had Susan Lee on seven AM, but

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't alone. Susan Lee was everywhere speaking with everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, nobody was special. You weren't special. I wasn't special.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually Raper is the political editor at Channel ten. She

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to the leader of the opposition too, she did everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never quite seen a media blitz like it. Susan

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<v Speaker 2>Lee is the leader of the Opposition. She joins me. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Susan Lee, welcome to Affective.

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<v Speaker 3>Here in the studio with you, Susan Lee, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for joining the Daily US.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pleasure. Susan Lee. Welcome to the show. Great

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<v Speaker 2>to be with you a few Good morning, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>nice to see you this morning. Everything okay, coom morning Karl.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the lights on. It's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything's fine here in Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about my affordable energy plan everywhere I go,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm asking the Prime Minister one simple question, Karl,

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<v Speaker 3>when our power price is going to come down?

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<v Speaker 2>So this was all about silly the plan.

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<v Speaker 3>Why they were ditching net zero, because they were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to balance, especially for the liberals here to say what

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<v Speaker 3>is this about? And they were obviously going down this

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<v Speaker 3>is all about affordable energy, which is a line that

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<v Speaker 3>will resonate with people. Our energy bills are high. But

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<v Speaker 3>the second part to it was this big question of

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<v Speaker 3>climate credibility for the Liberals and they say that their

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<v Speaker 3>plan will reduce emissions year on year, that's what they

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<v Speaker 3>want to do, but there are no targets.

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<v Speaker 2>That have abandoned targets. So there was that part, But

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<v Speaker 2>it was all about her.

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<v Speaker 3>Leadership, coming out as a strong leader, and this was

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<v Speaker 3>about shoring up her leadership as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So did the media blitz work and what is the

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<v Speaker 1>chaos and the coalition meant for the government while the

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<v Speaker 1>press gallery has been looking the other way. I'm Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>James and you're listening to seven AM today Ashley Raper

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<v Speaker 1>on the Weekend Camera. Australia has failed to host cop

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<v Speaker 1>the last ditch effort the past new environment laws and

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<v Speaker 1>what twenty twenty six would look like if season Lee

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<v Speaker 1>loses her job. It's Saturday, November twenty two. Actually, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Susan Lee's decision to get out on the

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<v Speaker 1>front foot. This week it was about net zero, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was also about her leadership. So what is she

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with right now? Inside the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, you know, there was a very powerful image that

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<v Speaker 3>happened last week on the Wednesday ahead of that Liberal

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<v Speaker 3>Party room, and that image has been played over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again of the right faction coming together. There were

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<v Speaker 3>the three Liberal women at the front cincin number, Jibber Price,

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah Henderson, Jess Collins.

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<v Speaker 2>There was Aus Taylor and Andrew.

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<v Speaker 3>Casety, you know, the two leadership aspirants, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>very very damaging to Susan Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>Then on Sunday, the day that the Coalition partyment was meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>And just how I just happened to do this lovely

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<v Speaker 3>sit down in the paper, this very soft piece. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was an interview, you know, when he tells everybody

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<v Speaker 3>that he loves The Devil Wears Prato. It's one of

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<v Speaker 3>his favorite movies. So this was all happening in the

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<v Speaker 3>background when you know, we know that the right is

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<v Speaker 3>agitating and they're happy they got their way on ditching

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<v Speaker 3>net zero.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you've also got the moderates here, and the

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<v Speaker 2>moderates we know within the Liberal Party are very very

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<v Speaker 2>upset about ditching net zero. So in terms of Susan.

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<v Speaker 3>Lee's leadership, you know, and this blitz. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure that it was that effective for her.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to give it to us.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gone out, she's absolutely given her a red, tackled

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<v Speaker 3>her head.

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<v Speaker 2>On, but I'm not sure what she actually achieved here.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the moderates are upset. Do they still have

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Lee's back?

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<v Speaker 2>There weren't a lot of moderates out the week.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of moderates have regular spots in the media,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's on Sky News or ABC on radio, and

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<v Speaker 3>they all pulled out. Mostly there were a few, but

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<v Speaker 3>Anne Rustin, who was really the Moderate leader now and

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<v Speaker 3>the Senate, she's a shadow Health minister.

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<v Speaker 2>She did come.

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<v Speaker 3>Out on Monday and when there were rumors that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the moderates had pulled their support from Susan Lee in

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Hasey's favor, and she came out, So that's absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>not true.

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<v Speaker 5>The Australian newspaper reported that some are rethinking their support

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<v Speaker 5>for Lee and want Andrew Hasty to run. Susan Lee's

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<v Speaker 5>office responded today with a statement issued on behalf of

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<v Speaker 5>two leading moderates that they continue to strongly support Susan's

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<v Speaker 5>leadership and that she will lead the party strongly to

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<v Speaker 5>the next election.

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<v Speaker 3>At this stage, the moderates are still backing in Susan Lee,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are very hurt by this.

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<v Speaker 1>What a more right wing replacement fair any better? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this about her? Or about where the country is at

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<v Speaker 1>right now, especially giving the support of one nation at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>What we have been seeing with the Liberals federally, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're six months posts an election, there's always this soul

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<v Speaker 3>searching and trying to work out what they're doing. And

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<v Speaker 3>the right faction is very powerful in that room at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment because in the seats that have been lost

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<v Speaker 3>in those city seats, a lot of them were the

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<v Speaker 3>more moderate voices, so those voices aren't in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's almost like in a way they're in this

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<v Speaker 3>echo chamber and speaking to the moderates over the past

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks as they've worked out this net zero position,

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<v Speaker 3>they were very concerned. But the right faction right now

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<v Speaker 3>is very powerful and they are you know, it must

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<v Speaker 3>be said that they are undermining Susan Lee's leadership with

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<v Speaker 3>what they're doing and what they're saying. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not willing to be good soldiers and toe the line,

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<v Speaker 3>which makes it very difficult for Susan Lee. But you

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<v Speaker 3>look at what's happening, you know, with Victoria and even

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<v Speaker 3>in New South Wales. In Victoria they rolled Brad Baton.

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<v Speaker 3>I stand continuously proud in the role that I've done

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<v Speaker 3>and the things that I've done for the community.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have a moderate leader in Jess Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>While I was so honored to be elected unopposed by

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<v Speaker 3>my Liberal party room yesterday Mark Speakman, who was the

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales Liberal leader and opposition later he also

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<v Speaker 3>stepped down, but effectively was chapped as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I've had a difficult set of cards handed to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I've done my best with those, but I think now's

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<v Speaker 5>the time to hand over the baton.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they've installed Kelly Sloan as the Liberal leader.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also a moderate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an incredible honor, huge responsibility when I don't take lightly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to.

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<v Speaker 3>Work for New South Wales and I thank my colleagues

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<v Speaker 3>for the faith and the trust that they're placed in me.

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<v Speaker 2>Today.

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<v Speaker 3>The big states in New South Wales and Victoria where

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<v Speaker 3>the federal Liberals lost seats six months ago at the election,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not looking to the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up Australia has failed with the host of Global

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<v Speaker 1>Climate Summit. Actually, the press gallery has been focused on

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<v Speaker 1>the will they won't they of the coalition's climate policy

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks on end and rightly so, so what does

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<v Speaker 1>that meant for the government?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they mean good time, aren't they?

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<v Speaker 3>And this has also been the problem, you know with

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<v Speaker 3>the Liberals and the Coalition not really having their act

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<v Speaker 3>together right now or fighting amongst themselves that they're not

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<v Speaker 3>being an effective opposition really and they haven't been for

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<v Speaker 3>the past six months, which isn't good for democracy. And

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<v Speaker 3>so look, the government has had a pretty easy ride.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very much in a honeymoon period. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got the.

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<v Speaker 3>Final sitting week of Parliament coming up and there are

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<v Speaker 3>some tough pieces of legislation that the government does want

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<v Speaker 3>to get through. So it might not be as smooth

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<v Speaker 3>sailing this last week for the government as they may

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<v Speaker 3>have hoped.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they looking to achieve in this final week, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>They really want to get the environmental protection laws through.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this has such been an although exiger that actually

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<v Speaker 3>predated the Albanese government in twenty twenty two, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>land these laws that really balances approval for developments, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it be a mining or housing, balancing that with protecting

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<v Speaker 3>the environment. They couldn't get it done in the last

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<v Speaker 3>term when Tanya Plibsek was the Environment Minister. Murray Watt's

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<v Speaker 3>now being installed as the Environment Minister and he has

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<v Speaker 3>one job to get these lulls through.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of the day, what I want to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure of is that the package of reforms that

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<v Speaker 4>we do pass through the Parliament and I'm very confident

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<v Speaker 4>that we will do achieve that balance. If that requires

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<v Speaker 4>tweaks here or there that I'm obviously open to hearing

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<v Speaker 4>from people, but that's the overarching goal that we're seeking.

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<v Speaker 2>They do want to rush them through by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of parliament, but he has to do a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the government doesn't have the numbers in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 3>so they have to look to the Coalition or the Greens.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Labor wants to go with the coalition. They feel

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<v Speaker 3>like that will be an easier path. It's a more

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<v Speaker 3>palatable path for business as well, and that's how the

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<v Speaker 3>government is selling that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The Coalition has been in disarray, so they haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>great to negotiate with, and I think that's been problematic

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<v Speaker 3>with the government.

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<v Speaker 2>This week though there has been movement.

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<v Speaker 3>The Levels have come out and said look, these are

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<v Speaker 3>our demands, this is what we want. We could land

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<v Speaker 3>a deal. The Greens would say, look, you should be

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with us, but they also want to extend it

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<v Speaker 3>and there's an inquiry that's pushed out to next year.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, a lot can happen in the last week

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<v Speaker 3>to get this deal done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unclear where that will actually happen, though.

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<v Speaker 1>This week the Government finally conceded defeat the Turkey over

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<v Speaker 1>who will host the next cop summit. Why did the

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<v Speaker 1>government want the.

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<v Speaker 2>Job, Well, they wanted it for for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>They want it for a number of reasons, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was also a big with Pacific Nations and that was

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<v Speaker 3>a really key part of it because if you look

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<v Speaker 3>at strategically what the government is trying to do, and

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<v Speaker 3>you hear the government say this all the time, they

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<v Speaker 3>want Pacific Nations to turn to Australia as in their words,

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<v Speaker 3>their partner of choice rather than China, and that's about

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<v Speaker 3>influence and national security and military and through the Pacific

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<v Speaker 3>Islands climate change.

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<v Speaker 2>They're at the front line. They're feeling the effect.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a big with Pacific lines and that's

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<v Speaker 3>why Australia wanted it.

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<v Speaker 2>They also wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Look like, you know, they were being proactive on climate change.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be big cree to get it also for

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<v Speaker 2>Adelaide as well.

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<v Speaker 3>South Australian government really wanted it because of what it

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<v Speaker 3>does for the economy. Obviously would be cost to host

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<v Speaker 3>an event like that. So there's just been this standoff

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<v Speaker 3>now for such a long time and who was going

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<v Speaker 3>to blink first and Australia did. But they have got

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<v Speaker 3>a few things as a result in these negotiations, and

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<v Speaker 3>so Chris Bolan personally has had a bit of a win.

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<v Speaker 3>He still gets to be part of the negotiations and

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't quite get the title, but he's basically like

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<v Speaker 3>the president. And also that there's the carve out that

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<v Speaker 3>there will be a special Pacific nation focus with a

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<v Speaker 3>leader's meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the cost it was going to costs two

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<v Speaker 1>billion was one of the estimates that I saw. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually, you know, still a bit of speculation about

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<v Speaker 1>whether the cop is actually a good vehicle for addressing

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<v Speaker 1>climate action. Could you argue that the government maybe you've

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<v Speaker 1>also have dodged a bullet on this as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I think a lot of people will argue

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<v Speaker 3>about people withinside the.

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<v Speaker 2>Government and outside, and that's very much.

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<v Speaker 3>What you've heard from the opposition that it's actually a

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<v Speaker 3>good thing. And I think people as well within the

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<v Speaker 3>government think, yeah, probably it's not a bad thing. We

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<v Speaker 3>look like we tried, we tried really hard, but then

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't actually have to pay. It's like you're offering

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<v Speaker 3>to do something and you're like, phew when you don't

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<v Speaker 3>when you don't actually have to do it. But and

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that the Greens are talking about. The

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<v Speaker 3>government has got a ways well, you know, without a

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<v Speaker 3>focus on what's happening with tossil fuels in Australia, those

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of things, so without it's a headache that they

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<v Speaker 3>now don't need to address by not hosting cop next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually we're coming to the end of the parliamentary year.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five has also been an election year. There's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of things go down on federal politics.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think the government will reflect on the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five that they've had and how do you

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll be feeling about twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Six, Well, you'd have to say it as a very

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<v Speaker 3>good year for the government. Look, they've just had this resounding,

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<v Speaker 3>amazing win in May and Anthony Otherneasy has always really

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<v Speaker 3>boasted about running just a discipline and methodical governments. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's also like, well, there's always questions around how bold

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<v Speaker 3>is this government, and I think those questions will start

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<v Speaker 3>coming out, you know when you look at.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>But in terms of as well the Prime Minister, he's

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<v Speaker 3>done quite a bit of travel. He's had some problems,

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<v Speaker 3>you know in Pacific getting some deals through with Banawatu.

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<v Speaker 3>There's been success with Indonesia and Papua New Guinea. The

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump meeting in Washington has.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone really well.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the end of the year, I think obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the government will reflect that they've had a very good year.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's also been helped by the fact that the

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<v Speaker 3>opposition has been in such a mess. So it could

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<v Speaker 3>be different twenty twenty six. If the opposition does get

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<v Speaker 3>its act together seasonally, will probably last, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>last living week. How long she lasts next year is

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<v Speaker 3>another big question. Very much changed the game. If somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>you say, Andrew Hasty becomes the leader of the opposition

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<v Speaker 3>and what then Anthony Albanezi will have to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>his Prime minister up against the opposition. So there are

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of unknowns next year. But twenty five they

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<v Speaker 3>have been able to sail through relatively unscathed.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's always a honeymoon period.

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<v Speaker 3>There's always a lot of goodwill to this government, but

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<v Speaker 3>it will dry up at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Ashley, goodwill to you and thank you for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on seven am.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank You.

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