WEBVTT - This 1 question will make you rethink your life 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Apoche Production. 0:00:10.161 --> 0:00:12.881 Welcome to Behind the Drapes. I'm your host Brent Draper 0:00:13.001 --> 0:00:14.521 aka Drakes, and I'm. 0:00:14.401 --> 0:00:17.361 Shanlee Draper and we're here to talk about stuff according 0:00:17.361 --> 0:00:17.681 to us. 0:00:18.481 --> 0:00:20.520 Hey, guys, it's Draper here and. 0:00:20.441 --> 0:00:22.321 I was naked on the Goldkos Highway. 0:00:23.441 --> 0:00:32.801 Yeah, buddy, it's made to give You are a strong woman. Gooday, guys, 0:00:32.841 --> 0:00:36.281 Welcome back to another episode of Behind the Drapes. 0:00:36.681 --> 0:00:38.880 How this came about was this morning, Jokes and I 0:00:38.921 --> 0:00:41.801 were sitting together and I asked him this question because 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.921 it just came into my brain and I thought, I 0:00:43.921 --> 0:00:46.681 want to know what he thinks. And then I was like, wait, wait, wait, 0:00:46.681 --> 0:00:48.361 don't answer that. This is really good for the podcast. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.561 So we literally had to stop talking about it immediately 0:00:50.601 --> 0:00:52.720 and thought we'd come on and do an episode. And 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:54.521 it's just one simple question, but I think it's going 0:00:54.561 --> 0:00:55.681 to be really relevant for people. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.041 That's really I think the beauty about this is that 0:00:58.081 --> 0:01:01.321 everyone can ask themselves this question too. We can give 0:01:01.361 --> 0:01:03.721 the answers of what we feel, but I think people 0:01:03.721 --> 0:01:05.641 can ask themselves question is. 0:01:05.681 --> 0:01:07.601 The question that I asked Drapes was do you ever 0:01:07.641 --> 0:01:09.321 feel like you should be doing more with your life? 0:01:09.681 --> 0:01:12.361 And you sort of like looked at me, you were like, yeah, 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:12.841 kind of. 0:01:12.961 --> 0:01:14.921 I think my ANSWER's changed a million times the more 0:01:14.961 --> 0:01:15.601 I think about this. 0:01:16.321 --> 0:01:18.001 So, do you think you should be doing more in 0:01:18.041 --> 0:01:18.441 your life? 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.640 Honestly, yes, I should be doing way more. I have 0:01:21.961 --> 0:01:25.201 an amazing community of people that follow me on Instagram. 0:01:25.321 --> 0:01:27.481 You know, I could be doing so much more in business. 0:01:28.321 --> 0:01:30.920 But on the other side of that, with the boys 0:01:31.041 --> 0:01:33.360 and the amount of time I'm spending with them at 0:01:33.401 --> 0:01:37.560 this young age, especially Bowie being like seven months and 0:01:37.681 --> 0:01:40.681 Alfie five, Me and Alfie get on like so good. 0:01:40.721 --> 0:01:44.641 We have quality time. So in a business way, yes, 0:01:44.681 --> 0:01:46.601 I could be doing so much more and I should be. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.320 And I also feel like we always say life so short, 0:01:50.441 --> 0:01:53.481 life so precious. One minute you're here, one minute you're gone. 0:01:54.321 --> 0:01:56.561 And I've got an ADHD brain too, So I am 0:01:56.721 --> 0:02:00.081 like constantly. You know, I've postponed this surf trip. I 0:02:00.081 --> 0:02:02.521 don't want to go on twice. I just need to 0:02:02.521 --> 0:02:04.481 go do it, like fit it in, get it done, 0:02:04.641 --> 0:02:07.880 like make it happen. You know. That's the kind of attitude. 0:02:08.121 --> 0:02:11.201 But also no, because I'm really lowing this time, this 0:02:11.361 --> 0:02:15.321 sort of perfect balance between work and watching the boys 0:02:15.361 --> 0:02:17.441 grow up, and you know, you only get that for 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.721 this moment, Like in another ten years time, they don't 0:02:20.761 --> 0:02:23.161 really need us too much. I mean, they'll have their 0:02:23.201 --> 0:02:26.801 own life then and then maybe then I could really 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.681 go hard on something, like I know. 0:02:28.881 --> 0:02:31.521 But then you're like ten years is so long, Like 0:02:31.561 --> 0:02:32.400 that's a long time. 0:02:32.441 --> 0:02:34.761 It is like I'm not going to be like this 0:02:34.841 --> 0:02:39.681 for ten years. I've got plenty of things on and 0:02:39.721 --> 0:02:42.081 I'm busy, and you know, I think with my mates 0:02:42.121 --> 0:02:44.721 and that I could be doing more. Life's gotten busy 0:02:44.761 --> 0:02:48.160 if the boys here and I also work different hours 0:02:48.281 --> 0:02:50.800 than my mates too, like a lot of them are traders, 0:02:51.121 --> 0:02:52.881 and a lot of them are traders sort of you know, 0:02:53.041 --> 0:02:55.401 a little bit away, so like you can't just go 0:02:55.481 --> 0:02:58.321 down the street and catch up with them. But then 0:02:58.361 --> 0:03:01.921 the weekends roll around and everyone out there who's got kids, 0:03:02.001 --> 0:03:05.201 you know, like you're booked up months in advance with 0:03:05.481 --> 0:03:09.481 bloody birthdays or your little weekend get away. So yeah, 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:17.601 I think, like if I split it all in different categories, yes, look, 0:03:17.761 --> 0:03:20.081 I think I could be doing a lot more. 0:03:20.401 --> 0:03:23.321 But listen to you speak, like you've confused my brain, 0:03:23.441 --> 0:03:28.601 because we should be doing more because there's so much 0:03:28.601 --> 0:03:31.001 opportunity and there's so many things to do and life 0:03:31.041 --> 0:03:32.800 is short and go get it and what are you 0:03:32.841 --> 0:03:33.281 waiting for? 0:03:33.441 --> 0:03:34.441 Then we should be slow. 0:03:37.001 --> 0:03:40.401 But then the other part is like move slowly, relaxed. 0:03:40.521 --> 0:03:41.720 You need to rest. 0:03:41.761 --> 0:03:44.441 Enjoy your not so much that but like, especially if 0:03:44.521 --> 0:03:47.720 kids like this is the fleeting moment, Like you sent 0:03:47.761 --> 0:03:50.641 me an Instagram one of your three hundred a day 0:03:51.201 --> 0:03:52.481 reels that I never watch. 0:03:53.321 --> 0:03:55.441 You don't hate. It's actually so. 0:03:55.361 --> 0:03:56.721 Rudeous, honestly, so. 0:03:56.641 --> 0:03:58.241 Beautiful and sweet, and I want you to read that. 0:03:58.401 --> 0:04:00.921 Honestly, I'll judge it by the first time. 0:04:01.721 --> 0:04:02.440 That's offensive. 0:04:02.521 --> 0:04:05.241 You know, I watch all of yours barely speaking, do 0:04:05.321 --> 0:04:07.001 you sucking watch all of it? 0:04:07.081 --> 0:04:09.041 I just said you even watched one about it and 0:04:09.081 --> 0:04:11.880 I send one like a month. You said, like three 0:04:11.881 --> 0:04:12.161 a day. 0:04:12.601 --> 0:04:14.601 Well it's gone from three hundred to three days three 0:04:14.641 --> 0:04:17.121 days nothing. It's like when I'm on the toilet. 0:04:17.121 --> 0:04:20.841 Yeah, yeah, like normally leads in with Bow Taplin or something. 0:04:20.921 --> 0:04:24.201 Is that his name, yes, Bo Taplin if you if 0:04:24.201 --> 0:04:25.521 you're listening, I love him. 0:04:25.561 --> 0:04:26.160 I love his poems. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.041 Okay, that real was that your kids are only kids 0:04:30.161 --> 0:04:32.960 for a lot less time than hopefully they are adults. 0:04:33.081 --> 0:04:35.640 Yeah, very shorter. So you've only got children for a 0:04:35.681 --> 0:04:36.760 small amount of times what it was. 0:04:36.801 --> 0:04:39.640 Compared to like how long they're becoming adults because you know, 0:04:39.801 --> 0:04:42.400 essentially their kids growing up a lot younger these days, 0:04:42.401 --> 0:04:45.201 so you sort of lose them as children. I don't 0:04:45.241 --> 0:04:45.880 know what age I. 0:04:45.921 --> 0:04:47.841 Want to say, when when are they stopping children? Like 0:04:48.041 --> 0:04:48.961 maybe ten? 0:04:49.961 --> 0:04:52.760 So, in like a real confused way where we're drifting 0:04:52.761 --> 0:04:55.001 off here, we come back to the thing is we've 0:04:55.001 --> 0:04:57.520 only got these boys as our little children for such 0:04:57.521 --> 0:05:01.961 a fleeting moment. So I think maybe I'm actually doing 0:05:02.001 --> 0:05:06.041 more there by doing less, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:12.721 I was fucking bots up God. So my answer insure 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.721 is yes I could be doing more. 0:05:15.041 --> 0:05:16.121 Yeah. 0:05:16.161 --> 0:05:18.041 So someone wrote the other day, I don't know if 0:05:18.041 --> 0:05:19.561 you saw as Actually you wouldn't have seen this because 0:05:19.561 --> 0:05:21.361 you don't care for this stuff. The other day an 0:05:21.361 --> 0:05:25.601 Instagram post popped up with a photo of you on 0:05:25.681 --> 0:05:29.441 the Master Chef Instagram page, and it was like talking 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.601 about the fact that the show has been nominated for 0:05:31.641 --> 0:05:34.361 an award, and I clicked on it. Sorry, And it 0:05:34.361 --> 0:05:36.241 was Facebook that I popped up, and I clicked on it, 0:05:36.281 --> 0:05:39.161 and the very first comment was something like, where is 0:05:39.201 --> 0:05:41.721 this guy? Haven't heard from him since he won, or 0:05:41.761 --> 0:05:43.401 something like that. You wouldn't have seen it. You didn't 0:05:43.401 --> 0:05:45.641 see it, And so this is what made me think 0:05:45.681 --> 0:05:48.441 about this. It's like, it's so interesting how other people 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.440 may perceive us or you or someone else is not 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.520 doing a lot, but no one actually knows what goes 0:05:52.521 --> 0:05:54.241 on behind the scenes. And we're in the thick of 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.681 raising two young kids, and it's just funny how that 0:05:58.761 --> 0:06:01.001 person's perspective, like they don't know what we do, they 0:06:01.041 --> 0:06:02.280 don't know what our life involves. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.001 We have so many think that's the thing of life. 0:06:05.361 --> 0:06:09.801 You probably have fifty different ways you're perceived, like by 0:06:09.961 --> 0:06:14.401 different people just because they're fleeting moments with you leaves like, 0:06:14.561 --> 0:06:18.121 you know, like some person might think you're an extrovert 0:06:18.241 --> 0:06:20.601 because they only see you in these sort of times, 0:06:20.641 --> 0:06:23.281 and then another person who you're close with knows that 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.001 you're an introvert. Actually it's only what they see of you, 0:06:26.161 --> 0:06:29.241 so like he's only or whoever they are, they only 0:06:29.241 --> 0:06:32.241 see me on a freaking show. And unless I'm on 0:06:32.281 --> 0:06:34.721 that freaking show again or on a show, you don't 0:06:34.721 --> 0:06:36.760 know what I'm doing, true, do they? Think that I've 0:06:36.801 --> 0:06:39.721 just come home and fucking sat in the backyard for 0:06:39.801 --> 0:06:40.201 a year. 0:06:42.001 --> 0:06:43.921 I've been fishing for last year. 0:06:43.921 --> 0:06:46.601 Besides fishing, take fishing out of it, and been busy. 0:06:46.841 --> 0:06:49.081 Yeah I know, but no, I've been busy. 0:06:49.121 --> 0:06:51.161 I want to set this straight, Like I've been fucking 0:06:51.241 --> 0:06:53.361 flying here, flying there, doing this, doing that. 0:06:53.521 --> 0:06:56.281 Yeah, it's not about that, but you know what, like, 0:06:56.401 --> 0:06:57.041 what is busy? 0:06:57.041 --> 0:06:58.681 Baby? Why do you care if you're busy or not. 0:06:58.721 --> 0:07:01.681 In fact, if we cast our minds back five years ago, 0:07:01.721 --> 0:07:03.960 which way, I think this question is so relevant. You 0:07:04.001 --> 0:07:06.161 didn't want to be easy like you were back then. 0:07:06.201 --> 0:07:08.760 You were a trade. You were busting your ass. You know, 0:07:09.001 --> 0:07:11.121 you had like all the physical symptoms of being a 0:07:11.121 --> 0:07:13.201 trade for a long time that were starting to happen, 0:07:13.761 --> 0:07:16.561 and you wanted more freedom and more flexibility. You literally 0:07:16.601 --> 0:07:19.201 have that now. You can literally do pretty much anything 0:07:19.201 --> 0:07:22.401 you want to do and make money and live a 0:07:22.441 --> 0:07:25.681 beautiful life, but not work as kind of crazy intensive 0:07:25.721 --> 0:07:26.361 hours as you were. 0:07:26.401 --> 0:07:28.361 And that's that's a good thing because a lot of 0:07:28.361 --> 0:07:31.081 people lose this and I really try not to to 0:07:31.121 --> 0:07:34.161 not forget where you come from. Yeah, so me five 0:07:34.241 --> 0:07:37.441 years ago would be looking at me now saying you've 0:07:37.481 --> 0:07:41.121 made it, but then me now because you've you know, 0:07:41.161 --> 0:07:43.201 it's like climbing that mountain that you can't see the top. 0:07:43.241 --> 0:07:45.401 You get to the next point and you're like, you 0:07:45.441 --> 0:07:47.321 won't be happy with that point. You're like, well, the 0:07:47.321 --> 0:07:49.321 top could be just there, like I'll just. 0:07:49.321 --> 0:07:51.961 Keep going, which is why we're asking this question now, 0:07:52.041 --> 0:07:53.921 like so no, you should be doing it all your 0:07:53.961 --> 0:07:57.721 life because yeah, okay, yeah, which is funny because no, 0:07:57.921 --> 0:08:00.041 but I always say, and how often do I say 0:08:00.041 --> 0:08:02.521 this to you, Like, babe, this is what we wish for, 0:08:02.681 --> 0:08:05.321 Like we're actually here living the life that we wish 0:08:05.481 --> 0:08:08.201 we had five years ago. Our life five years ago, 0:08:08.201 --> 0:08:11.001 by the way, was amazing. It's got nothing to do 0:08:11.161 --> 0:08:14.441 with money or it's not those things. 0:08:14.481 --> 0:08:17.041 It's the freedom. What is my highest value in life? 0:08:17.521 --> 0:08:19.761 Just freedom, Like, of course you want to have money, 0:08:19.801 --> 0:08:22.721 but and be financially free to some degree, but it's 0:08:22.721 --> 0:08:24.201 always been just like freedom to choose. 0:08:24.241 --> 0:08:25.160 I don't want to have a boss. 0:08:25.201 --> 0:08:26.681 I want to be able to make money on my 0:08:26.761 --> 0:08:29.521 own terms, and we literally get to do that. So 0:08:29.521 --> 0:08:31.921 it's just so funny that we're now sitting here and 0:08:32.241 --> 0:08:35.161 you're like living this amazing life we live in a 0:08:35.201 --> 0:08:36.041 really nice house. 0:08:36.081 --> 0:08:36.641 We don't own it. 0:08:36.641 --> 0:08:38.721 We rent it and we've rented forever and we're hoping 0:08:38.721 --> 0:08:41.001 to buy a house shortly, but that's never been priority 0:08:41.041 --> 0:08:41.281 for us. 0:08:41.361 --> 0:08:41.601 Right. 0:08:41.761 --> 0:08:43.681 What I'm trying to get to is like we always 0:08:43.921 --> 0:08:46.681 think we should be doing more, but it's not until 0:08:46.681 --> 0:08:48.721 you look at where you are in this moment, Like 0:08:48.801 --> 0:08:50.921 I'm like, wow, but we doesn't have to go to 0:08:51.001 --> 0:08:52.801 daycare every single day, so we have to go to 0:08:52.841 --> 0:08:55.521 work five days a week. We literally work, but we 0:08:55.561 --> 0:08:58.401 work different hours. We work harder and faster, and we 0:08:58.441 --> 0:09:01.041 get paid to do that, and we get to hang 0:09:01.041 --> 0:09:03.561 out with our kid five days a week. We never 0:09:03.601 --> 0:09:05.481 did that with our feet. Our fee was in daycare 0:09:05.601 --> 0:09:08.161 from home day care and when he was like yeah, 0:09:08.201 --> 0:09:10.001 ten or twelve weeks old, he went a couple of 0:09:10.081 --> 0:09:11.841 days a week and then he went full time within 0:09:11.921 --> 0:09:14.121 I think maybe like the first eighteen months or something. 0:09:14.561 --> 0:09:16.201 That broke my heart as the first time mum, we 0:09:16.241 --> 0:09:18.041 don't have to do it anymore. But now we're like, oh, 0:09:18.041 --> 0:09:19.441 we should be doing more and he should be in 0:09:19.521 --> 0:09:21.601 dcare more, and but it's. 0:09:21.521 --> 0:09:23.841 Human, that's human as human, Hey, we like this, That's 0:09:23.881 --> 0:09:26.961 why we're going to end up being bloody. As my theory, 0:09:27.001 --> 0:09:31.441 we're going to be hybrid computer bloody robots, AI robots 0:09:31.441 --> 0:09:35.161 because the Endless Chase. There's a surf film, Endless Summer, 0:09:35.841 --> 0:09:38.241 and it's just like the Endless Chase. And that's what 0:09:38.281 --> 0:09:39.961 we are as humans. We're just like, you know, we 0:09:40.041 --> 0:09:42.361 have one minute, we have this brand new phone that's 0:09:42.401 --> 0:09:45.841 just come out, and then within six months it's like, oh, 0:09:46.161 --> 0:09:47.361 you got to get the new one's got to get 0:09:47.401 --> 0:09:49.521 the next one. We're We're in it as a constant chase. 0:09:49.521 --> 0:09:52.001 We're like dogs after tennis balls throughout. 0:09:51.681 --> 0:09:53.881 Life literally and chasing a dopamine hit. 0:09:54.041 --> 0:09:55.121 Yeah, and all that's what it is. 0:09:55.121 --> 0:09:57.961 It's all about, right, Like doing more means you get 0:09:57.961 --> 0:10:00.561 those like hits of I've done something, I've done this, 0:10:00.641 --> 0:10:03.041 I've achieved this, I've succeeded. And like for me as 0:10:03.041 --> 0:10:05.641 someone who's literally struggled with perfection is. 0:10:05.641 --> 0:10:06.521 In my entire life. 0:10:06.561 --> 0:10:09.201 It started when I was a kid, like love my parents, 0:10:09.361 --> 0:10:12.041 love my dad, but I do remember having, you know, 0:10:12.121 --> 0:10:15.201 a lot of conversations around what I was doing, what 0:10:15.361 --> 0:10:17.521 I was achieving, what I wanted to do with my 0:10:17.561 --> 0:10:20.761 life from a very young age. I'm talking like primary school, 0:10:20.801 --> 0:10:24.561 there was a lot of expectation on me to achieve 0:10:24.681 --> 0:10:27.961 in life. I look back and I'm grateful for that 0:10:28.001 --> 0:10:29.641 because I have achieved a lot and I've done a lot, 0:10:29.681 --> 0:10:33.441 and I have done that because I've always had that drive. 0:10:34.561 --> 0:10:36.961 But also, like you know me, I struggle with that, 0:10:37.161 --> 0:10:39.841 like I struggle with the perfectionism peace, and I struggle 0:10:39.921 --> 0:10:44.081 with productivity and thinking that I'm not worth much unless 0:10:44.121 --> 0:10:48.001 I'm proactively working on something or achieving something. Like I 0:10:48.041 --> 0:10:51.321 started a second company when Alfie was like eight weeks old. 0:10:51.441 --> 0:10:53.521 I was ball deep in the first company in the 0:10:53.561 --> 0:10:56.481 recruitment business, and then I started another business with a 0:10:56.481 --> 0:10:58.681 business partner, and I had a newborn baby, and I've 0:10:58.721 --> 0:11:01.241 never done that before, like because my brain was like, oh. 0:11:01.161 --> 0:11:03.681 I'm only a mum right now, and I need to 0:11:03.681 --> 0:11:04.321 do something else. 0:11:04.361 --> 0:11:06.481 So when I think about like where I am in 0:11:06.521 --> 0:11:08.801 my life now, oh my god, I'm worlds apart. Like 0:11:08.841 --> 0:11:11.361 I'm you know, six years nearly six years down the track. 0:11:11.721 --> 0:11:15.280 I don't run my own big business anymore. I'm consulting. 0:11:15.361 --> 0:11:17.361 I'm doing this with you, which I love so fun. 0:11:17.401 --> 0:11:19.361 I help you with all of your work and business 0:11:19.361 --> 0:11:22.321 behind the scenes. I often think like I should be 0:11:22.321 --> 0:11:24.201 doing so much more at this point in time, But 0:11:24.241 --> 0:11:27.881 then my brain is like, oh my god, Scheanra, you're 0:11:27.881 --> 0:11:30.721 a seven months old baby, like and I am busy, 0:11:30.881 --> 0:11:33.681 Like honestly, like this week, I've had like a rash 0:11:33.681 --> 0:11:36.041 on my face, broken out, a skin rash again, a 0:11:36.041 --> 0:11:39.121 hormonal rash that I think is associated with stress because 0:11:39.161 --> 0:11:41.801 we've got these deadlines this week, we're also going away, 0:11:42.001 --> 0:11:44.441 we're sleep deprived, we're both feeling a bit sick, and 0:11:44.481 --> 0:11:46.401 we've got all these things that we're trying to get done. 0:11:46.761 --> 0:11:49.001 And so I don't think at this point in time 0:11:49.041 --> 0:11:51.481 I could cram anything else in it and not feel stressed. 0:11:51.521 --> 0:11:54.001 But also my brain is like, yeah, you should be 0:11:54.001 --> 0:11:57.041 doing more. Oh my god. It's it's just human experience, 0:11:57.041 --> 0:11:57.361 it is. 0:11:57.521 --> 0:12:00.361 It's the grass is always greener. On the other side, 0:12:00.801 --> 0:12:04.081 we've created this monster with Instagram where you're always scrolling 0:12:04.201 --> 0:12:08.281 something better than what you've got that you want, like 0:12:07.441 --> 0:12:12.001 you like mine is like full of amazing food, big fish, 0:12:12.241 --> 0:12:17.081 big like these massive fish, big big hot like hot chicks, 0:12:17.361 --> 0:12:21.401 like you know, if you're always like cheese with the mouse, 0:12:21.441 --> 0:12:23.161 like here it is this is you could have there 0:12:23.241 --> 0:12:28.001 like it chases it like, but at the same time, 0:12:28.081 --> 0:12:30.081 I'm like, I'm so happy. 0:12:30.361 --> 0:12:33.241 Yeah, yeah, are you happy to have right now? 0:12:33.281 --> 0:12:37.361 Yea. But I would love to create something bigger and 0:12:37.481 --> 0:12:40.121 I would love to get involved in something bigger and 0:12:40.321 --> 0:12:43.721 like business like yeah, like I've never sort of done 0:12:43.761 --> 0:12:44.481 that too much. 0:12:44.521 --> 0:12:47.601 And do you want the stress of that, because I 0:12:48.921 --> 0:12:49.361 want to be. 0:12:49.321 --> 0:12:52.121 On the side of the business and you've. 0:12:52.001 --> 0:12:54.761 Got to get no joking, but do you know what 0:12:54.761 --> 0:12:57.441 I mean? Something bigger, but then you don't want to stress. 0:12:57.681 --> 0:13:00.161 And this is at the same time in life. 0:13:00.281 --> 0:13:02.281 Yeah, at the same time, I want to buy a 0:13:02.361 --> 0:13:06.281 house away from where you know it's so it's a 0:13:06.281 --> 0:13:08.161 bit cheaper, so we can afford it and we can 0:13:08.561 --> 0:13:11.241 have that freedom and then create the massive vegie patch 0:13:11.321 --> 0:13:13.201 and you know all that and but that all takes 0:13:13.241 --> 0:13:16.281 work because then you'd have to like separate, you'd have 0:13:16.361 --> 0:13:20.121 to reinvent the brain thinking what we're drilled into to 0:13:20.321 --> 0:13:23.241 work to get money to live, whereas you'd have to 0:13:23.481 --> 0:13:24.521 work to live. 0:13:24.921 --> 0:13:26.841 Yeah, you're talking about you want to build a farm, yeah, 0:13:26.841 --> 0:13:28.761 always wanting to have a farm. We want to have 0:13:28.761 --> 0:13:30.441 our own proof, yes, yeah. 0:13:30.081 --> 0:13:33.081 And sort of you know, bring all the money output 0:13:33.401 --> 0:13:37.001 down whereas everyone is going up with it because they 0:13:37.001 --> 0:13:38.041 want bigger, they want better. 0:13:38.041 --> 0:13:39.561 They everyone trying to make more money. 0:13:39.721 --> 0:13:43.681 To have that bigger, better, newer, shinier, you need to 0:13:43.721 --> 0:13:47.401 make more money and make more stress, and then just 0:13:47.761 --> 0:13:51.201 viciously cycle and get to a point where you're burn 0:13:51.241 --> 0:13:52.921 out and then you spiral. 0:13:52.641 --> 0:13:54.481 Down and then you think in bed you can't make 0:13:54.481 --> 0:13:55.161 any money anyway. 0:13:55.641 --> 0:13:57.401 Not well so mentally, your physically. 0:13:57.481 --> 0:13:58.721 I'm trying to go this other way. 0:13:58.921 --> 0:14:01.361 Yeah, the question is probably not do you feel like 0:14:01.361 --> 0:14:03.081 you should be doing more with your life. The question 0:14:03.281 --> 0:14:07.281 is probably, when you have everything you've ever wanted. 0:14:07.201 --> 0:14:08.281 Are you going to be happy with that? 0:14:08.401 --> 0:14:09.921 So I look at us and I think, when we 0:14:09.921 --> 0:14:12.041 move to our farm, we have our property, and that's 0:14:12.081 --> 0:14:14.001 all we've ever wanted. We've you and I have dreamt 0:14:14.041 --> 0:14:16.201 of that for like ten years. It's not like since 0:14:16.201 --> 0:14:18.281 the kids have come along. This is not since you know, 0:14:18.441 --> 0:14:20.841 we traveled Australia. You and I have always been on 0:14:20.841 --> 0:14:22.601 the same page with that. We've always wanted to just 0:14:22.801 --> 0:14:25.521 get away from everyone and everything and just have our 0:14:25.561 --> 0:14:28.241 own little space, you know, have our own produce, have 0:14:28.321 --> 0:14:30.441 our own meat. I was going to say, kill our 0:14:30.441 --> 0:14:32.481 own beast. Who am I am? I a farm girlery 0:14:32.601 --> 0:14:34.641 killer own beasts and just you know, live a really 0:14:34.681 --> 0:14:37.081 simple life. When we get there, are we going to 0:14:37.081 --> 0:14:38.801 be happy or are we going to be a bit bored? 0:14:38.841 --> 0:14:41.961 Because honestly, I can't imagine myself in the kitchen we're 0:14:41.961 --> 0:14:45.401 not making cookies and being content with that. I'm not 0:14:46.481 --> 0:14:47.921 I would have run a business. Am I going to 0:14:47.961 --> 0:14:48.881 be able to do it from the farm? 0:14:49.001 --> 0:14:53.121 Yes? We're not in the fucking that's in the middle 0:14:53.121 --> 0:14:53.801 of the desert. 0:14:53.921 --> 0:14:55.761 We had if you had it your way, we would 0:14:55.761 --> 0:14:56.441 be so doping. 0:14:56.521 --> 0:14:58.281 No, we wouldn't. I've got the boat still, I need 0:14:58.281 --> 0:14:59.681 to be close to the ocean. It'd be a river 0:14:59.681 --> 0:15:03.881 out there, so no, where we're looking isn't far from 0:15:03.921 --> 0:15:06.761 here anyway. And there's a thing I found out, this 0:15:06.801 --> 0:15:10.961 thing it's called Wi Fi and people actually use it 0:15:11.041 --> 0:15:14.641 to run online businesses, which all your businesses have been 0:15:14.801 --> 0:15:17.201 do worry about your cookies. I'll make the cookies, thank you, 0:15:17.281 --> 0:15:19.881 and you can run another little business. But I'm just saying, like, 0:15:20.601 --> 0:15:22.881 you don't have to have a multimillion dollar business. Our 0:15:22.921 --> 0:15:26.081 money for the food and groceries, and that goes down 0:15:26.121 --> 0:15:28.401 because you know, and then you're more self sustainable. 0:15:28.441 --> 0:15:30.401 Yeah, which we're talking about some of our beautiful friends 0:15:30.401 --> 0:15:32.321 this morning who really want to have on the podcast. 0:15:32.521 --> 0:15:35.041 They live a couple of hours Inland. They have this 0:15:35.201 --> 0:15:38.361 beautiful property. They bought this farm super cheap all. 0:15:38.241 --> 0:15:38.881 These years ago. 0:15:39.001 --> 0:15:41.281 They've slowly built like a shed on it and now 0:15:41.281 --> 0:15:44.321 they're like fully self sustainable. They you know, only really 0:15:44.321 --> 0:15:45.961 one of them has to work. They had their own business. 0:15:46.041 --> 0:15:47.521 Now one of them has a job. The other one 0:15:47.521 --> 0:15:51.201 looks after their little bub and also renovates this house 0:15:51.241 --> 0:15:51.761 that they've bought. 0:15:51.801 --> 0:15:53.041 They bought this really old house. 0:15:53.081 --> 0:15:55.441 They shipped it over to wherever they are on the 0:15:55.481 --> 0:15:57.641 back of a truck or something, and now they're building 0:15:57.681 --> 0:16:00.081 this beautiful home. But they've built it, but they mortgage. 0:16:00.121 --> 0:16:02.841 They have such a small mortgage. Now are they close 0:16:02.881 --> 0:16:04.401 to the ocean where we want to be. No, are 0:16:04.401 --> 0:16:05.761 they close to any major cities. 0:16:05.841 --> 0:16:07.441 So it's gorgeous. 0:16:07.481 --> 0:16:11.321 But for them, they actually have freedom and they have choices. 0:16:11.441 --> 0:16:14.241 Whereas we have other friends who live, you know, in Brisbane. 0:16:14.361 --> 0:16:17.201 They've got big, beautiful houses, you know, with million dollar 0:16:17.201 --> 0:16:21.641 price tags. Yeah, we small backyards, but they have to 0:16:21.761 --> 0:16:24.321 bust their balls where I want to see us is 0:16:24.401 --> 0:16:27.561 I want to be on the life's peachey side where 0:16:27.841 --> 0:16:30.361 we don't have this crazy mortgage that we feel like 0:16:30.401 --> 0:16:32.121 maybe one day we're not going to be able to sustain. 0:16:32.321 --> 0:16:34.441 I don't want to have that financial pressure for our 0:16:34.521 --> 0:16:36.321 children either. I want to be able to take them 0:16:36.321 --> 0:16:38.721 on holidays and go for trips around Australia again, and 0:16:39.401 --> 0:16:43.721 live a life where it's affordable. I'm scared. Scarcity mindset's 0:16:43.721 --> 0:16:46.241 a real thing. I'm scared that one day, you know, 0:16:46.921 --> 0:16:48.641 things are going to get so out of hand and 0:16:48.761 --> 0:16:50.761 so expensive that not even our children are to be 0:16:50.801 --> 0:16:52.921 able to afford anythings. So for us, it's like, how 0:16:52.961 --> 0:16:54.801 do we get into the market. Oh my god, now 0:16:54.841 --> 0:16:55.601 we're talking about we're. 0:16:55.481 --> 0:16:56.961 Talking about real estate. It's totally a track. 0:16:57.161 --> 0:16:58.961 But how do how do we buy a house that's 0:16:58.961 --> 0:17:00.681 going to be more sustainable for us in the future 0:17:00.681 --> 0:17:03.281 so we can actually not have to be doing more 0:17:03.281 --> 0:17:04.680 with our lives if we don't want to. We can 0:17:04.721 --> 0:17:08.561 just live of this sort of easy, breezy, beautiful lifestyle. 0:17:08.801 --> 0:17:12.600