WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 11 December

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, gentlemen, welcome to the late Places.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome to the show. I'm Liz Storian.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you're here joining me this evening is

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<v Speaker 2>mister kel Richards and Joe Hildebrand, so you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>in for a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>Rime contributor contributors here payable.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up in the papers tonight, a Victorian Council has

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<v Speaker 2>decided that they are going to embrace Australia Day again.

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<v Speaker 2>Miracles do happen, ladies and gentlemen, and Australia's most senior

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<v Speaker 2>public servant defending the fact that under Labor they've added

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six thousand places to the public servant in less

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<v Speaker 2>than four years. You'll laugh out loud when you hear

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<v Speaker 2>his justification for this, and last, but not least, a

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<v Speaker 2>crocodile has been found in a laundry in the Northern Territory,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know it's the Northern Territory. But first, tonight

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<v Speaker 2>we know that Labour's obsession with net zero means that

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<v Speaker 2>they will justify anything in the name of cutting down emissions,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it, They're on the case. And today we

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<v Speaker 2>discover that this also extends to our health sector. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we're told that healthcare accounts for roughly five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>global emissions, with most major developed countries committing to decarbonizing

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<v Speaker 2>the sector. The details remain scarce as to how you'd

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<v Speaker 2>pull this off, of course, because how on earth are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to decarbonize a sector on which people rely

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<v Speaker 2>literally not only for their quality of life but to

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<v Speaker 2>keep living well. That's not stopping the labor government. We

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<v Speaker 2>read in the Daily Telegraph today the alben Easy government

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<v Speaker 2>has committed to releasing a healthcare system decarbonization roadmap in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, but researchers have warned there are potentially

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<v Speaker 2>hidden costs right through the healthcare supply chain. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 2>can imagine so. According to analysis by the Menzies Research Center,

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<v Speaker 2>switching a majority of Australian asthma sufferers to more environmentally

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<v Speaker 2>friendly inhala's alone would cost taxpayers and patients more than

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<v Speaker 2>AE hundred million extra annually. What are these new inhalers

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<v Speaker 2>going to do? Are they going to be made of cardboard?

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<v Speaker 2>What are people supposed to do? The article goes on

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<v Speaker 2>to detail, thanks to this research done by MENSIS, that

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<v Speaker 2>even if they changed half of the fifteen million Inhaler's

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<v Speaker 2>purchased annually here in Australia to the more expensive, lesser

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<v Speaker 2>emissions in Haler's. That alone would cost one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four million dollars. But of course that's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be labor playing with more subsidies, more of our

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<v Speaker 2>taxpayer dollars, just handing them out like freebies. Joe, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to have lost our minds when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>not only this, but they're talking about we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>reduce the emissions patients and doctors use up visiting each other.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think if there was any area that

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<v Speaker 3>you were going to make exempt from carbon reduction targets,

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<v Speaker 3>it would probably be life saving medical care. I think

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that's I say, you know what, we'll just focus

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<v Speaker 3>on the cars. We'll just go with the evs. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we'll get a solar powered client. Your doctors,

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<v Speaker 3>you just do whatever it takes. You can just I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>paper straws are bad enough. Imagine a paper venal and

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<v Speaker 3>that's not going to get soggy. Come man, I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is crazy. I think it is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>I was reminded of an event I went to many

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<v Speaker 3>many years ago, and I'm very worthy of and fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>event about raising money for or basically community housing and

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<v Speaker 3>extremely low cost housing for people. And they were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to raise money to put solar power solar panels on

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<v Speaker 3>the roof so that the electricity bill would be cheaper

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<v Speaker 3>for the and I kind of just thought, you sort

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<v Speaker 3>of get like, I could see it makes sense. I

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<v Speaker 3>could see it sort of was going to be cheaper

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<v Speaker 3>and everything. But this didn't look like a homelessness initiative anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like something else. And I feel like this

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't look like a healthcare initiative anymore. It looks like

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<v Speaker 3>something else. I think, just leave. Let healthcare do whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it has to do to care for people's health. The

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<v Speaker 3>clues in the name kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>A sension go.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to decarbonize other economies transport, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>They won't for sake of just five percent of global emissions.

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<v Speaker 2>This is nonsense, and there is no way to do

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<v Speaker 2>it without making healthcare less affordable.

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<v Speaker 1>And possibly less efficient. That worries me.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to say, as an asthmatic, I've got to

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<v Speaker 4>tell you ventilin is not destroying the global climate. Right

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<v Speaker 4>you can. They're tiny, little inhalers. You take minute, little puffs,

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<v Speaker 4>and they'll find something which they think is fractionally better.

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<v Speaker 4>My worry is it will be fractionally less efficient. So

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<v Speaker 4>there'll be some asthmatic shall be lying on their bed gasping,

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<v Speaker 4>and people will be saying, no, no, it's all right.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gasping, but you're good because you're saving the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a wonderful person.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll be emitting let's co I too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, when they die, you find people will admit

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<v Speaker 4>very little co too.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead people don't admit any.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just this is ridiculous. I mean, they actually lied

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<v Speaker 4>to us. They said we're only coming after fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 4>They're getting after fossil fuels. So now they're turning to

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<v Speaker 4>crippling farming, crippling long distance transportation, crippling manufacturing, crippling the

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<v Speaker 4>healthcare sector. What it amounts to. I think now this

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<v Speaker 4>is just me being Okay, this is serious. This is

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<v Speaker 4>philosophy stuff. This is idolatry. This is worshiping the creation

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<v Speaker 4>instead of the creator, and it's any level of worship

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<v Speaker 4>up to and including human sacrifice. Whatever we need to

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<v Speaker 4>do to make the climate safe. If a few people

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<v Speaker 4>have to die, a few people have to be uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 4>that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Are I always said of this agenda, it is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>very anti human. Humans are being made to suffer, but

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<v Speaker 2>being told whatever the suffering, whether it's energy prices, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the suffering, whatever form it takes, it's justified because we're

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<v Speaker 2>saving the planet. I mean, I could not believe reading

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<v Speaker 2>in the government's National Health and Climate Strategy today they

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<v Speaker 2>highlight the need to reduce staff travel and consider emissions

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<v Speaker 2>from patient and visitor travel. How are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>do that without affecting health outcomes? What are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to have zoom calls now for the buzz patients reveal?

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<v Speaker 3>As was revealed just a couple of weeks ago, even

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<v Speaker 3>Australia's climate change ambassador doesn't seem to have been able

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<v Speaker 3>to resist taking overseas trips on araplanes. They never practiced,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm pretty sure that you know, if they can't,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's essential for them to have face to face

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<v Speaker 3>on it. I'm pretty sure it's essential for doctors to

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<v Speaker 3>have face to face on it. But again, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it's this great conspiracy that I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>any human I mean, there's no there's no liberal planet,

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<v Speaker 3>there are no human.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind.

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<v Speaker 3>But you, well, you have to you have to find

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<v Speaker 3>a balance. And I know that's very difficult for some

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<v Speaker 3>people to accept, but you have to find a balance

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<v Speaker 3>and say, right, yes, we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you agree that this isn't finding a balance?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right? This is exactly what I said, Like, why

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<v Speaker 3>why go after and a sector which is absolutely non

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<v Speaker 3>negotiably vital for human survival, for human health i e.

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<v Speaker 3>The healthcare sector when it is a tiny tiny amount

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<v Speaker 3>of the system, And why not go after the far homes,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the big industrial stuff. And again we I've

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<v Speaker 3>even said we still need to do that in a

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<v Speaker 3>way that doesn't sacrifice people. On the ultra of ideology

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<v Speaker 3>that would make sure we're replacement.

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<v Speaker 1>They are still going after people.

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<v Speaker 4>If you put up power costs, it is old agg

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<v Speaker 4>pensioners who don't eat their homes in winter.

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<v Speaker 1>It is people who end up paying the prices. People

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<v Speaker 1>is suffer. So it's basically cruel in the end, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>The large amount of these policies don't actually affect the

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<v Speaker 2>planet in a great way. We can talk about evs,

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk about solar panels. Are they really better

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<v Speaker 2>for the environment. No, when you boil it down, they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said of this agenda. Once you realize that

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<v Speaker 2>you are the carbon they really want to reduce, it

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<v Speaker 2>starts adding up all these crazy policies. It starts making sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get on to a nice, positive, cheery topic.

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<v Speaker 5>To Queensland now, where you would not believe this story

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<v Speaker 5>if it weren't in the news. Today we learn that

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<v Speaker 5>over three hundred vials of deadly pathogens have gone missing

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<v Speaker 5>from a lad in Queensland. And get this, this actually

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<v Speaker 5>happened in August of last.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, and nobody told us. We don't even We still

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where these vials are.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus side, nobody's dead.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, so far so good, So far so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody panics, so far, so good. But this has made

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<v Speaker 2>international headlines. As Fox News rights, the government has instructed

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland Health Australia's Public Health Department.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand itzation how it's actually just how it works, or

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<v Speaker 3>does Queensland's Public Health to.

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<v Speaker 2>Launch an investigation into what's being described as a major

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<v Speaker 2>historical breach of biosecurity protocols. According to the online media statement.

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<v Speaker 2>It was reported that three hundred and twenty three vials

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<v Speaker 2>of multiple infectious viruses, including hendravirus, lysa virus, which contains

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<v Speaker 2>rabies virus by the way, enters virus, went missing from

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland's Public Health virology laboratory. Say that twice fast in

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty twenty three. Now the government says it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know whether these infectious samples were stolen or destroyed, but

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<v Speaker 2>it does say, quote there is no evidence of risk

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<v Speaker 2>to the community, and quote so you don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>they are. They could be safely binned somewhere. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>were destroyed, hence nobody panic. Or it could be you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where they are or how they went missing,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they've potentially stolen. But you're just telling everyone there's

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<v Speaker 2>no risk to the community. These two things do not

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<v Speaker 2>go hand in handcap.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not three of these vals, it's three hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty three of these vals. I read this and

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it's a black market for this stuff. This

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<v Speaker 4>is bizarre. I did work out that biosecurity for Queensland.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't take fruit across the border. But if you're

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<v Speaker 4>carrying little vials of highly infections.

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<v Speaker 3>That's perfectly all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not worried about that sort of thing. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so many They call this a major historical breach

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<v Speaker 1>in bios security protocols.

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<v Speaker 3>You reckon just a little bit. I think if if

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<v Speaker 3>there was going to be a mass kind of wu

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<v Speaker 3>Han style outbreak of deadly virus as well, I think

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<v Speaker 3>we wouldn't know about it by now. So if I

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<v Speaker 3>was a betting man, which I am actually so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>happy a bet, then I would put it on someone

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<v Speaker 3>has actually destroyed them, but they haven't done that paperwork.

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<v Speaker 2>Just put their hand up and say, yeah, okay, nobody panic.

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<v Speaker 2>I destroyed them.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's Stephen Miles's Queensland. The place isn't absolutely you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That means you can get.

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<v Speaker 4>They're in the back of a fruge somewhere and let's

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<v Speaker 4>watched the paperwork.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone keep an ordered.

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<v Speaker 3>Again. I'm not this is I don't run the joint.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't run the joint. I love the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Fox News just assumes that Queensland Health is Australia's public

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<v Speaker 3>health department, like all of Australia's nations, which is all

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<v Speaker 3>most Americans would think. I think, oh yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a giant thing. Everyone's going around in thongs, in board

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<v Speaker 3>shorts and there's a bench there in kangaroos they run.

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<v Speaker 4>Around with ba We do need to say to the viewers,

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<v Speaker 4>if you feel a strange sort of a twinge, go

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<v Speaker 4>and check it out. I'd be part of the vials

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<v Speaker 4>that turned up at your place. Can I say there

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<v Speaker 4>are there are? Actually, I mean we laugh about that,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are some serious things happening in England. The

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<v Speaker 4>Spectator which is a great magazine. I am a columnist

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<v Speaker 4>for the Spectator of Australia, so I speak in a

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<v Speaker 4>completely unbiased way. There was great magazine. Now the editor

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<v Speaker 4>is Michael Gove. He replaced Fraiser Nelson, who was the

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<v Speaker 4>editor until recently. They published online an article about Nikola Sturgeon,

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<v Speaker 4>who was the Chief Minister of Scotland for a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>and just in passing the author referred to a transgender

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<v Speaker 4>person as a man pretending to be a woman. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>they got very upset about that. The press watchdog is accused,

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<v Speaker 4>has accused these people and produced a chilling effect on

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<v Speaker 4>free speech. According to the editor Michael Gove. The blog

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<v Speaker 4>has just taken over. So the idea that this man

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<v Speaker 4>was not allowed to express in the article his view,

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<v Speaker 4>this was a man claiming to be a woman. There

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<v Speaker 4>is in England something called a gender recognition panel, and

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty eighteen this person went to the gender that's

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<v Speaker 4>the person gender recognition panel and officially got recognized as

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<v Speaker 4>being a woman. Why didn't they have a chromosome recognition

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<v Speaker 4>panel so that you were checked to being.

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<v Speaker 1>Xx a woman or x Y a man. And if

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<v Speaker 1>an x Y.

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<v Speaker 4>Person wants to dress and live as an XX person,

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<v Speaker 4>they can do that as a free country. But part

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<v Speaker 4>of being a free countries you have free speech, which

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<v Speaker 4>means we're allowed to say this is an x Y

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<v Speaker 4>person who likes to live as an EX person. We're

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<v Speaker 4>allowed to say that because that's what's actually going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Except in Britain.

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<v Speaker 4>It's quite frightening the implication for free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought absolutely, And of course it's not ipsoce's role to

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<v Speaker 2>dictate freedom of speech issues. They're basically in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>They're our version of Akma, who pulls up anyone in

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian communications and media space on any untruth or

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<v Speaker 2>if you're breaking a certain part of their code, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not their job to enforce ideology, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>IPSACE basically the UK version of AKMA is doing here,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sends it does send a chilling message. I

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<v Speaker 2>think guys, going forward, you're not allowed to acknowledge biological reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, no, I think people I think people should be

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think a whole bunch of people should

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<v Speaker 3>probably just get over it. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think people should be able to say, I identify

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<v Speaker 3>as a woman, and that's that she looks perfectly womanly

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<v Speaker 3>to me. And you know, even if she didn't, she

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<v Speaker 3>could say that I want to be a woman and

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<v Speaker 3>that's how I feel, and that's how I'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>be addressed, Okay, whatever. People should have that individual freedom,

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<v Speaker 3>but again I.

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<v Speaker 2>Bet they don't have the freedom everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think where it does cross the line,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is when you are saying, when you're basically saying, right, well,

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<v Speaker 3>these are my pronouns. Now, everyone in the world has

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<v Speaker 3>to tell me theirs or it's a hate crime. And

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<v Speaker 3>the more chilling extension of that is that anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>questions it is therefore actionable under the law and can

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<v Speaker 3>actually be censored and told no, you can't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what this president says. Then they breach the

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<v Speaker 2>editor's code of practice. So going forward, anyone who's writing

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<v Speaker 2>anything in the UK will have breached the same code

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if people think that that is acceptable or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>then what happens when, for example, you go into satire.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens when you know people are taking the mickey

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<v Speaker 3>out of people, and people take the mickey out of

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<v Speaker 3>people for all sorts of different personal attributes. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>then start going after comedians like I don't know, Raygun

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<v Speaker 3>did never forget because you know, imagine that scene in

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<v Speaker 3>the Life of bran And where the People's Front of

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<v Speaker 3>Judea are not to be confused with the gd in

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<v Speaker 3>People's Front are sitting there and there's a woman who

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<v Speaker 3>says that I demand the right this is I demand

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<v Speaker 3>the right to go into the arena and be fed

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<v Speaker 3>to the lions, just like all the men do. And

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<v Speaker 3>they said, okay, well you can have that right, you

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<v Speaker 3>know in you go, you know, be fed to lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I don't want to be fed to the lions.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want the right to be fed to the lions,

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<v Speaker 3>and again it's very, very funny. There was also a

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<v Speaker 3>big trans skit in that as well, where one of

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<v Speaker 3>them suddenly identified as a woman and said that I

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<v Speaker 3>would I would like to be what I want to

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<v Speaker 3>want to I want to be a woman, and I

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<v Speaker 3>want to have babies, And the John Cleese character says, what,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't have babies. You don't have a womb, and

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<v Speaker 3>they all sit down and say all right, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>and they vote on another resolution taking the piece out

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<v Speaker 3>of all these socialist collectives that sprung up in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 3>said all right, we all agree that you have the

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<v Speaker 3>right to have babies, even though you can't have babies.

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<v Speaker 3>Now again, if you were to say that under these laws,

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<v Speaker 3>I am pretty sure that you would run foul of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And therefore the UK untacting the long way home. I apologize,

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<v Speaker 3>but that UK has just found a way to kill

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<v Speaker 3>off Monty Python, its greatest comedy export. Well done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it's absolutely insufferable this journal. Gareth Roberts was

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<v Speaker 2>simply exercising his rights to freedom of speech, expressing what

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<v Speaker 2>I dare say the vast majority of us still believe

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<v Speaker 2>is a simple biological reality. No very few among us

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<v Speaker 2>believes that a piece of paper can make your woman.

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<v Speaker 2>It cannot magically get rid of a y chromosome. So

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<v Speaker 2>good Lucke where they're going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether that's true or not. The point is, should you

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<v Speaker 3>be able to say something that is wrong stupid?

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<v Speaker 4>True, you can't get rid of a y chromosome. But

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<v Speaker 4>there's there's even more. What's interesting is this is not

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<v Speaker 4>just happening in England. It's happening in America. In America,

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<v Speaker 4>they've actually got the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 4>So when there was an attempt by the State Department

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<v Speaker 4>to circumvent the First Amendment, they had to be really

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<v Speaker 4>devious about it and.

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<v Speaker 1>Work out their way to get around it.

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<v Speaker 4>They set up a thing called the Global Engagement Center,

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<v Speaker 4>just that wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Maeration is never in the name, and they.

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<v Speaker 4>Funded something called the Global Disinformation Index, which was a

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<v Speaker 4>British organization which then contacted advertisers and told them not

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<v Speaker 4>to advertise on websites that were conservative. So by having

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<v Speaker 4>several links in the chain, you could get around the

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<v Speaker 4>First Amendment. So everyone, it seems, trying to cut down

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<v Speaker 4>on freedom of speech these days. That's what's under attack.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really important. That's what we need to defend, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent? And now the Biden admin the State

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<v Speaker 2>Department is scuffling to get rid of the GOEC because

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<v Speaker 2>they know, come the Trump term is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first things to get turfed. It's previously

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<v Speaker 2>been funded to the tune of one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>censoring Americans speech online, and they've decided, well, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to renew that one hundred million dollars fully upcoming year.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it could joined by a lifetime's worth of environmentally

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<v Speaker 3>friendly vential and in highlands for that money.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the history of the GOEC is actually quite curious.

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<v Speaker 2>It did start out as legit, as explained by Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Benns he's a former Trump State Department official on the

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Rogan podcast. Originally, here is what the GEC started

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<v Speaker 2>out as.

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<v Speaker 6>So this idea that that isis was recruiting on Facebook

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<v Speaker 6>and Twitter. Gave a license to the State Department to

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<v Speaker 6>create this thing called the Global Engagement Center, which was

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<v Speaker 6>really the first official censorship capacity in the US government.

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<v Speaker 6>It predated the DHS stuff that would come along in

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<v Speaker 6>the Trump and the Trump era, and this gave the

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<v Speaker 6>State Department the direct back channel, the direct coordinating capacity

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<v Speaker 6>with all the social media companies to tell them about ISIS,

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<v Speaker 6>ISIS accounts, ISIS narratives that we're trending. Suddenly, the State

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<v Speaker 6>Department is a real time heat map of everyone who

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<v Speaker 6>is likely to be or hits a certain confidence level

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<v Speaker 6>being suspected to support ISIS.

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<v Speaker 2>That was from twenty fourteen to twenty and sixteen. Very

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<v Speaker 2>legit organization, you'd think, but many of these things start

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<v Speaker 2>out that way. But in twenty sixteen, Rick Stengel, who

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<v Speaker 2>put the thing together and was running it, had a

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<v Speaker 2>massive change of heart. Here's Mike Ben's again talking about

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<v Speaker 2>what Rick decided once Trump came to office.

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<v Speaker 6>When Trump won the election in twenty sixteen, he became

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<v Speaker 6>convinced that actually the First Amendment was a mistake. He

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<v Speaker 6>actually openly advocated in the Washington Post in an op

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<v Speaker 6>ed that we effectively end the First Amendment, that we

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<v Speaker 6>copycat Europe's laws, and then he wrote a whole book

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<v Speaker 6>on it. This is the guy who started affectively the

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<v Speaker 6>country's first censorship center. In twenty sixteen, the Global Engagement

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<v Speaker 6>Center pivoted from being counter terrorism to counterpopulism. In twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 6>they were afraid that social media rising all these right

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<v Speaker 6>wing populist parties to power would effectively collapse the entire

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<v Speaker 6>rules based international order unless there was international censorship, and

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<v Speaker 6>they talked about that quite openly in twenty seventeen in

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<v Speaker 6>as they were creating this whole censorship infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Concerto conservative outlets The Daily Wire, the Federalist, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Texas State are currently suing the DEEC, So it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting to know what happens with that now that

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<v Speaker 2>they're kind of going under. It was revealed in early

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three last year that they had in fact

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<v Speaker 2>been depriving several of these outfits of money because they

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<v Speaker 2>use these online platforms to post things, get subscribers. For

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of viewers you get, the platform then pays

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<v Speaker 2>you money. So it was demonetizing anyone it deemed as

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<v Speaker 2>being conservative or far right. We know how much they

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<v Speaker 2>love to use that. Elon Musk tweeted in February of

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<v Speaker 2>last year, the worst offender in US government censorship and

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<v Speaker 2>media manipulation is an obscure agency called GEC. He did

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<v Speaker 2>a follow up tweet to that saying they are a

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<v Speaker 2>threat to our democracy. Well that's the line they fed

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<v Speaker 2>the media about me. They had knives out for anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who wasn't subscribing to their way of thinking. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to think that we'd see something similar in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia with regards to America. Seems to be ditching a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these policies, a lot of these agencies, even

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<v Speaker 2>before Trump's made it into the Indeed, and yet the

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<v Speaker 2>alban Easy government, as we know, due to previous bills

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<v Speaker 2>it's tried to get up one successfully isn't of the

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<v Speaker 2>same mind as kel.

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<v Speaker 4>No. This man, Mike Bens that we saw with Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Rogan is the CEO of an organization called FFO Foundation

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<v Speaker 4>for Freedom Online. Because the place where they start with

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<v Speaker 4>censorship is online. That's where they say, oh, well this

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<v Speaker 4>is doing stuff which is disturbing the children, and anyone

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<v Speaker 4>can pick it up and it's really dangerous. And that

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<v Speaker 4>once your censorship starts, it starts online. And the worry

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<v Speaker 4>is it won't stop there, it will keep going. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>we've successfully got rid of this stuff online, now we

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<v Speaker 4>can start looking at newspapers and magazines and radio and

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<v Speaker 4>television and everything else. Any censorship anywhere is a worry.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the under sixteen thing was a mistake. I

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<v Speaker 4>know there are people who won't a group, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was a mistake. And the attempt to bring

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<v Speaker 4>in the Disinformation Misinformation Bill basically says is a government

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<v Speaker 4>saying we will determine what is true what is false.

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<v Speaker 4>But the whole premise is wrong because there are lot

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<v Speaker 4>two categories. There are at least four categories. There's true, false, disputed,

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<v Speaker 4>and opinion. And what they're attempting to do is to

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<v Speaker 4>pretend there's nothing disputed and there's nothing that's opinion. It's

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<v Speaker 4>either simple true or simple false, and will say which

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<v Speaker 4>one it is.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is based on a lie.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole thing is a delusion, and it makes it

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially in the age where it's not opinion versus

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<v Speaker 2>opinion anymore, in the twenty first century, it's facts versus facts,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is completely deadly when it comes to discussion

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<v Speaker 2>on any topic.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is true. I think you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>world which is so polarized and when there is so

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<v Speaker 3>much information and so much media that you can basically

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<v Speaker 3>can construct an entirely parallel universe that is backed up

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<v Speaker 3>and supported by a whole bunch of evidence, the whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of facts that is completely in direct opposition to

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<v Speaker 3>another parallel universe that someone has made an equally convincing

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<v Speaker 3>case for. And we've seen even with things like were

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump's rallies absolutely chocolate block full of crowds or

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<v Speaker 3>were they half empty? And again you have people showing

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<v Speaker 3>different images from different times trying to argue their points.

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<v Speaker 4>That just means it's disputed. It doesn't mean there's not

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<v Speaker 4>a truth. The truth is the truth. I was reading

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<v Speaker 4>a philosopher, You're true truth is what is the curse?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Because then they say, well, we're just going to not

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<v Speaker 3>allow things that aren't true. We're simply going to say

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<v Speaker 3>only allow things.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, We're going to pretend there's nothing which is disputed.

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<v Speaker 4>We won't allow any dispute, we won't debate the facts.

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<v Speaker 3>If you believe in free speech, you have to accept

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 3>the fact that people are going to believe too. Diametrically.

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 3>I could say to you it is an absolute fact.

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 3>It is an absolute truth that God exists right now. Obviously,

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 3>there are plenty of people going to say there's actually,

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, no evidence that is not true, or some

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 3>people might say it's disputed or whatever, but that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not what it's about. But they're not saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>They're saying, we won't have disputes about anything. We will

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<v Speaker 4>just say either that's true or that's full.

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<v Speaker 2>And everything else is disinformation.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything else is this information. They won't allow that debate.

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<v Speaker 3>That you're saying that there are absolute truths. There are

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 3>things that are absolutely true and things that are That

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 3>is what they're saying. You are falling into their trap.

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<v Speaker 1>No, i'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm giving you the Alan White, great British philosopher. I

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 4>wrote a book on truth. It's an excellent how things are,

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 4>How things are is what truth is. Now sometimes that's really.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, there is objective.

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<v Speaker 4>Hang on, No, there is no No, it's very simple

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 4>how things are with simple things, it's really easy. It's

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<v Speaker 4>either raining outside at the moment where it's not how

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 4>things are as the truth. The problem is knowing how

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 4>things are, and that means there's a big disputed debatable area. No,

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 4>there's no doubt about truth. There is a there is

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<v Speaker 4>an absolute reality, which is how things are. Finding out

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 4>what it is and understanding what it is and agreeing

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 4>what it is is hard. But there is such a

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<v Speaker 4>thing as truth. It's how things are. People who reject

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 4>that concept are just going mad in the lush.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is exactly what their position isn't allow anything

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<v Speaker 3>in between. That's right. If it's if you're saying something

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 3>that's not true, that's dangerous and that could lead to

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 3>catastrophic consequences. Therefore we will we will not allow things

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 3>that aren't true. That's that's exactly their argument.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they get to discign the narrative. But we

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen the end of the GEC because while they're

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>not renewing the funding, diversing those staff members different agencies,

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>different bureaus within the next administration. So good luck Trumpers

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>for ferreting those guys out wherever they end up next.

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<v Speaker 3>We're housing them, that's what they call it in the

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 3>TV industry. Right, No, Ray is still a valued member

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 3>of the member of the network. We're just going to

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 3>put him over here.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll be at home, because most public servants in America

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 4>are not actually going into the office.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Let's go something nice and light and bright, because

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 3>we do like to mix it up. On this show. Indeed,

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 3>the spite of horrific anity centertory attacks throughout Australia, which

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 3>just that was that I should that's exactly right. I've

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 3>got sense it for that. And just when you thought

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 3>they got a batter they could with the fire bombing

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 3>of a synagogue and they're pursuing the suspects obviously over that.

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 3>There was another outbreak in Sydney which I think has

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<v Speaker 3>really and in this case cars were firebombed and houses

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 3>were also damaged, and there has been this incredible I

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 3>think there's been a sort of collective awakening among Australians

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 3>generally who didn't realize just how ferocious this was and

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 3>just how hero and anti Semiticism is once it gets going.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 3>And I think and I like to think that the

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister has understood this. But here's a report from

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<v Speaker 3>scott and News car set on fire and buildings vandalized

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>with anti Semitic slurs in Malara as Sydney Jewish community

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 3>attacked again. And I did read that some of those

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 3>buildings bractually homes and residences. And how's this there's another

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 3>bit of graffiti in Sydney. We can pull it up.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:29:00.959
<v Speaker 3>It says, quote unquote Hitler was right. That's very interesting,

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 3>but this didn't seem to provide enough of a clue

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 3>for lovely chap Chris Taylor from ABC, who wasn't quite

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 3>sure if these were anti semitical. And I mean, from

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 3>what I remember, Hitler thought things that were mostly they

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 3>were pretty anti jew I think history lastly, but I

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 3>think quite a bit of an anti Semite. And so

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 3>if he was right, maybe that's a he was right

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 3>about transport infrastructure. Anyway, This is Chris Taylor talking to

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Premier Chris Mins on the ABC about this.

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<v Speaker 7>Just on your wording in your statements this morning, what's

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<v Speaker 7>your reasoning for branding the attack anti Semitic and not

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<v Speaker 7>anti Israel? How do you make a distinction?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we would have to be willful

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<v Speaker 2>at this point to turn a blind eye to that

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>sequence of event and suggested to anything other than an

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 2>anti Semitic attack.

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<v Speaker 7>So if you're calling it anti Semitic rather than just

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 7>a political anti Israel statement, what you've been in public

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<v Speaker 7>life a long time, would you say anti Semitism is

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<v Speaker 7>at an all time high in your experience?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I would, I swear to God that pause is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the greatest pieces of radio I have ever

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 3>heard of. Our life is actually asking me this, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and Christ's love the boke. It's anti Semitic, by the way,

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 3>not anti Semitic keepers. That's just semantics though, and I'm

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 3>an anti semantic. But again I do find it, and

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 3>again not having Christale who's a great boat. But I

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 3>think it is. I think there there are still some

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 3>people who are actually struggling to understand that what they

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 3>or people they talked to thought was just you know,

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 3>anti Zionism or anti Israel, is actually just anti jew

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 3>And I think the scales are coming down.

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<v Speaker 4>They're now working out that anti Israel and anti Semitic

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 4>are not the same thing. I mean, for what happened

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<v Speaker 4>in the import interesting it is for what happened in

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<v Speaker 4>Marlara to be anti Israel, they had to assume was

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 4>playing a role in the war between Gaza and Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>Willara is not playing a role. It's got nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with that.

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<v Speaker 4>The only reason they chose Willara is because there's a

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 4>big Jewish population. In other words, it's not anti Israel,

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 4>it's anti Jewish. It's Jewish hatred. It's hatred of the

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 4>Jewish people.

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 3>But the problem is that those two things coalesce so

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>that you have people who say that they're and again

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I know you're calling this out, say oh no, I'm

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 3>not atly Jewish, un just anti zion Israeli those two

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 3>things more.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, Nvyentai, what Bibi Netanya who is doing? And I

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>know hardcore Zionist jew maked In Bondai, who have absolutely

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>hated for as long as I can remember, especially since

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<v Speaker 2>October seven.

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And the majority of Israelis.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Sins indeed, and we know that he's wildly unpopular in

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>his own country. So I think it is an important

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>distinction to say you can be anti what is going

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>on in that part of the world right now without

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>being anti Semitic. And it's bb who's really put his

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>foot in that, because he has said very recently to

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 2>be anti Israel is to be anti Semitic.

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 3>That's a very but the problem but the problem is

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 3>proven right by these acts. The problem is that these

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 3>acts are being perpetrated, suppose.

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Perpetrated with the cause of pales and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, and they and they are using the cause

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 3>of Palestine and the cause of anti Israel activism to

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 3>target not Israel, but Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>Amitic.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote the word column about this, arguing that people

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<v Speaker 4>who are really anti Semitic, who when you finally get

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 4>them with a drink or two in them and they're

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 4>having a start talking about well it's rich Jewish bankers

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 4>who control the world. They're really anti Semitic. They've always

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 4>used code to hide that. They don't want to say it,

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 4>so at one stage they call themselves anti Israel rather

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 4>than andy Semittic, and now they'll use the expression I'm

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 4>pro Palestine, but addie, Israel and pro Palestine are code

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 4>words that actually mean I hate Jews. That's what they mean,

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 4>I think, and I think the language is simply intended

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 4>to be deceptive.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you wouldn't think that someone who went to this

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>effort of going to on cliff and putting this piece

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>of graffiti up would have at least done their homework

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 2>as to how to spell Israel. In case you missed it,

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>here's the graphic. My goodness, how can you be filled

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>with so much hatred and yet you can't even spell

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>out the name of your desired victim properly? I mean,

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>who are these flogs? It really points to someone who's

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>quite uneducated.

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 4>We'll now move to discussing the new south Well state

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 4>education to pro.

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 3>University education.

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Comment on that should have got Mens to comment on that,

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 2>although of course there's no proof that whoever did it

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>was educated here in New South Wales. So Men's is

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 2>off the hook on this one.

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 3>He's off the hook on everything. He's awesome. He should

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 3>be wearing a blue spandex suit with a big, biggest fan.

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you someone who someone else who means has

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>no truck with. That's noodle arm. Little measly upper middle

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 3>class activists who are probably all vegan. They're floating around

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 3>the Castle Harbor. There has been and this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why we can't seem to just throw

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 3>the book at these guys, possibly because they're so depleted

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 3>from iron from their vegan diet. If we threw the

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 3>book at them, it could potentially be fatal.

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I'd be more than happy to throw the book regardless.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe we could throw a pamphlet at the risk

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I just sort of blow them over. But this is

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 3>an incredible story, the convictions and all these activists who

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 3>blocked the biggest coalport in Australia, the one at Newcastle.

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 3>They have been dropped for Newcastle protesting Katherine Cock. And

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 3>this is, by the way, just saying this is a

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 3>multicultural smager's board of offenders here.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you think we do love diversit.

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely fantastic these guys. They're all for multiculture, they're

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 3>all for you know people, and they represent the true Australia.

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 3>It's not like they're a bunch of snot nosed over

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 3>privileged white kids from university. Let's just go over there.

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Let's just go back to their names again.

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.760
<v Speaker 4>We have Catherine Cock, Catherine Cock, Kimberly Cross.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Croxford, Tony Sterei and Caitlin McMahon. I don't think any

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 3>of them are from banks Town, but I bet they're

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 3>pro Palace.

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Convictions were quashed and their fines have been removed on

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 4>the basis that they genuinely believe there's a climate crisis,

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 4>there's an emergency, and they were acting out of their

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 4>beliefs in order to save humanity and save the planet.

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Can I offer you three simple I know this is

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 4>not the place to have belonged debate, but three really

0:35:55.120 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 4>short propositions. Climate change is normal, always happened Secondly, politicians

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 4>can't change the global climate. Thirdly, human beings are adaptable,

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 4>will adapt to anything. Therefore, relax, nothing to panic about,

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 4>no emergency. That's where we'll get to in ten or

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 4>twenty years from now, when people will say, oh, there

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 4>was nothing to worry about. It was a big hoax.

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 4>When we get to that point, this judge is going

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 4>to look really dumb because he said, to these people,

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 4>believe the hoax. They're nice people, they were sincere, they

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 4>were actually acting on the hoax they believed in.

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Therefore we should let them off.

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>On your parades.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Calvil.

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 2>But I think in ten to twenty years we'll all

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 2>have attached to us our missions clocker for the day

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>and things.

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 3>All be that.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 2>That is how quickly they are putting processes in place.

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 2>So these guys did get really hard fines and time

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 2>you name it. And then this judge comes in and

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 2>lets them off on appeal on conditional release orders, which

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 2>means basically absolutely nothing as long as they don't reoffend

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 2>with it. The amount of time of the conditional Relaseow

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 2>where do we even have these hardcore laws When we

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 2>all get excited about them and they all get off

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>with nothing more than a slap on the rest stationed

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>will be back with a croc in a laundry. You

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 2>can't miss that welcome back. Let's get stuck into the papers.

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<v Speaker 2>We're bringing you tomorrow's news tonight. Therefore it's quite exclusive,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it, Joe, You've got.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly is the Canberra Time unlocked, the key to time

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<v Speaker 3>travel here on the lake, debate lives and yes the camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Time's my favorite tabloid newspaper with their weird, weird quote

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<v Speaker 3>marks that look like something that got rejected by Lego ninjago.

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<v Speaker 3>Their main story is APS growing slower than the population.

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<v Speaker 3>This is obviously someone's quote. And who's quote is it? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the head of the APS the Australia. It's all okay,

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<v Speaker 3>lovely man.

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<v Speaker 4>Remind people APS means it's thrown in public service because

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<v Speaker 4>the big announcement is there are the bureaucratch are not

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<v Speaker 4>increasing faster than the population.

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<v Speaker 3>Being fast enough? Col is what they're saying, not enough.

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<v Speaker 3>So the country's most senior public servant has defended the

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<v Speaker 3>size of the federal public service in a bold end

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<v Speaker 3>of years speech. That's bold, bold from a public servant.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty good bold end of year speech. I would

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<v Speaker 3>say it's pretty bold, made of the brink of an

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<v Speaker 3>election campaign in which the Coalition will attack a thirty

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<v Speaker 3>six thousand place increase under labor. In an address titled

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not sure if this was wise quote who

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<v Speaker 3>needs a public service? Cabinet Secretary Privates and Cabinet Secretary

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<v Speaker 3>Glynn Davis alluded to a brewing debate about the size

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<v Speaker 3>of the bureaucracy and reassured public servants that their work

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<v Speaker 3>quote is honorable and necessary. Before they were sitting rocking,

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<v Speaker 3>why am I doing this? Purpose cheap mandar has come

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<v Speaker 3>out and says your work is honorable and necessary, and

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<v Speaker 3>they've got fantastic Oh it's four fifty five. I better

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<v Speaker 3>be off there. I just love this, but all these

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<v Speaker 3>poor public servants. So we're going through an existential identity crisis,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's come out like a hero. I said that

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<v Speaker 3>Christian should be wearing a giant reds on his chest.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Glynn Davis perhaps is the true hero that

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<v Speaker 3>Gotham needs right now. But this is the best thing

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<v Speaker 3>is that thought, Okay, we've got this, got this yarn

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<v Speaker 3>about how I'm going to say that there aren't enough

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<v Speaker 3>public servants and we need more, and they're all doing

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<v Speaker 3>a fantastic job. In fact, they're honorable and necessary. I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder which newspaper we should give it to the camera

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 3>time I don't have our back. That is good medium.

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<v Speaker 2>They will run this like it's a legit story. And

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<v Speaker 2>we are all justified. Thirty six thousand new places in

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<v Speaker 2>the public service in the space of less than four

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<v Speaker 2>years of an alban Easy government. Are you that incompetent

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<v Speaker 2>that you needed that many more people to do exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the same jobs that the former government was doing. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just last month kel that we learned one in

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<v Speaker 2>five Australians is a public servant. One in five working

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<v Speaker 2>people in Australia work for the government. That is a

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<v Speaker 2>mind blowing stack.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time we talk about this group of people. The

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<v Speaker 4>key so that everyone understands what's going on. We don't

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<v Speaker 4>call them public servants.

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<v Speaker 1>We call them bureaucrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's the servant?

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just tell you by that we have the Originally,

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<v Speaker 4>originally the expression public servants applied to convicts.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how it began in the idea on hundreds.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if you're in Newcastle, of course, you've probably been

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<v Speaker 4>kicked out of.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you're renting, haven't you?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Newcastle Herald.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely such such a nuance segue I missed at kel

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<v Speaker 2>thank you to the front page of the Newcastle Herald.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in no grounds evictions, a Hunter rent advocacy service

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<v Speaker 2>has reported a whopping forty two percent increase in inquiries

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<v Speaker 2>from tenants victed for no reason ahead of new legislation

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<v Speaker 2>banning no grounds evictions coming into effect. Wow, who could

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<v Speaker 2>have seen this coming? So the government, being landlords shortsighted

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<v Speaker 2>as a mole, advertises the fact we're going to create

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<v Speaker 2>legislation which means owners can no longer do no fault,

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<v Speaker 2>no fault, no grounds, no grounds evictions, and then everyone

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<v Speaker 2>turns around and says, well, I'll get my no grounds

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<v Speaker 2>evictions out of the way. Good luck finding another rental

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<v Speaker 2>in this blood sport market. Who could have seen this coming?

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<v Speaker 3>Joe, Well, obviously the landlords have seen it coming. But

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<v Speaker 3>it is interesting. But because it shows that there were

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<v Speaker 3>landlords who were planning to do this, they have done

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<v Speaker 3>that now ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now their hands have been fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they yeah, but that's because they know they won't

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<v Speaker 3>be able to do it afterwards. So it means that

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<v Speaker 3>every tenant who is in that and it's only you know,

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<v Speaker 3>forty two So it's not a huge amount, but please,

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<v Speaker 3>it's but it is, but it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge amount. I believe you have forty two percent burns

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<v Speaker 2>to your body if you'll be laying us.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not, it's not forty two percent of the Okay, okay, firstly.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not one quieries.

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<v Speaker 3>I know five people, and one in five people are

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<v Speaker 3>not bureaucrats. One in five people work for the government.

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<v Speaker 3>That includes cops, teachers, nurses, anyone age care workers. But

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<v Speaker 3>just to clarify that they're not bureaucrats. And to this,

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<v Speaker 3>it is a forty two percent increase in inquiries from

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<v Speaker 3>tenants evicted for no given reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is what I read.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, it's not like forty two percent

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<v Speaker 3>of tenants have been a victored.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're really willing say, there's a lot of inquiries.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of it. It's a lot of inquiries.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, that shows that this is working. It shows

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<v Speaker 3>that landlords are paying attention and that tenants are aware

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<v Speaker 3>that they may have.

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<v Speaker 4>As always Joe puts the really good spin on it,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's not nearly as bad as it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want some really.

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<v Speaker 4>Good news, you need to go to Melbourne's Herald Son

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<v Speaker 4>where they've got a nice story on the front page

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<v Speaker 4>that says advance Australia Day. The City of Greater Geelong,

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<v Speaker 4>which is one of Victoria's largest councils, has voted to

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<v Speaker 4>embrace Australia Day again, putting pressure on Melbourne's Lord Mayor

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<v Speaker 4>to support celebrating our national day. For a big council

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<v Speaker 4>to get behind this when all the little councils run

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<v Speaker 4>by the Greens are opposed to us. See, they want

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<v Speaker 4>us the Greens want us to be ashamed of a settlement,

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<v Speaker 4>so they don't want us to celebrate the day on

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<v Speaker 4>when the first settlement happened. Well, Joe Long has said,

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<v Speaker 4>blow that for a joke. It's our national Day, that's

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<v Speaker 4>when the first settlement happened. We're going to celebrate it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it does put pressure on Melbourne's Lord Mayor. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>in case you've forgot, Melbourne's Lord Mayor is Nicholas Reese,

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<v Speaker 4>known and loved by Fox by Sky News Jennifer our viewers.

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<v Speaker 4>We've seen him off and we agree with Nellie.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I'd say so.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas reached.

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<v Speaker 4>Brees is now under pressure to get Melbourne behind Austroy today.

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<v Speaker 1>Will he do it? Stay tuned for the next episode.

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<v Speaker 3>We live in Melbourne. I would say absolutely not. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I just get all the good ones and I've just

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<v Speaker 3>gotten lucky again. The NT News a great newspaper and

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 3>this is just in a little top left hand corner

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.760
<v Speaker 3>there you can see it says it all good, page

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<v Speaker 3>three yarn. And if you get a crock on the

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<v Speaker 3>front page. By the way, rule of the NT News

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.359
<v Speaker 3>is you have to buy the newsroom a case. That's

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 3>literally a genuine rule. So they've got the flock and

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<v Speaker 3>they've got the croc on the front page. Croc shock

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<v Speaker 3>in laundry tells you everything you need to know. There

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<v Speaker 3>was a crock, it was in the laundry and the

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<v Speaker 3>guy got a shot.

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<v Speaker 4>Just tell you one other thing in detail, have massively

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<v Speaker 4>higher sales every time there's a crocodile on the front page,

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<v Speaker 4>because every tourist buys a copy as a souvenir.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely would be in a Northern Territory paper if they

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a Croc on the front page. We all love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we leave you for the next out break,

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the Mercury has a happy story. You would remember the

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing saga of Mona's Lady's Lounge well after winning their

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<v Speaker 2>legal battle against a distruntled male patron. Remember the bloke

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 2>he was like, how dare you not give me entry

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<v Speaker 2>into the Lady's Lounge simply because I'm a male? He

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even trying to be trans No, he wanted access

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 2>because he'd paid for a ticket. Mona's Lady's Lounge has

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 2>reopened for a last hurrah one month after winning their

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>case in court. Absolutely love it, as they should. The

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.800
<v Speaker 2>amount of drama that went into this was so appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember this lady and all her entourage like dancing.

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<v Speaker 3>Into a brilliance. So the idea of it, for people

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<v Speaker 3>who haven't heard the story, is that they got a

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<v Speaker 3>Picasso I think it was, and then they put it

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<v Speaker 3>into an area of the art gallery.

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<v Speaker 2>Munch actually turned out not to be an original, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and said ladies only allowed in there. And guy

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 3>got upset, so hey, why aren't we allowed in there?

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.360
<v Speaker 3>And started remonstrating, and then it ended up taking it

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<v Speaker 3>to court, and it turned out that that was the

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<v Speaker 3>actual artwork, was a piece of performance art to show

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<v Speaker 3>men what it felt like to be excluded.

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<v Speaker 2>You were supposed to feel how ladies have felt. So there,

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<v Speaker 2>you were really in the ladies lounge. Don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back soon with Biden's latest blunder. Yes. Madami

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<v Speaker 2>is a US based company that offers a tech platform

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 2>for beauty and wellness. The irony is about to be

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<v Speaker 2>made clear. They do a survey for all their employees

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 2>just testing people's stress levels. How stressed are you at work?

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<v Speaker 2>And all the employees take part in this survey, as

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you do when your boss sends you something that you

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 2>must complete. Before they knew it, they had received an

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 2>email from the boss over a hundred of them saying

0:46:56.120 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 2>thus recently, we conducted a survey to understand your feeling

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>about stress at work. Many of you shared your concerns,

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>which we deeply value and respect as a company committed

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to fostering a healthy and supportive work environment. We have

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>carefully considered the feedback to ensure that no one remains

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 2>stressed at work. We have made the difficult decision to

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 2>part ways with employees who indicated significant stress. This decision

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:29.320
<v Speaker 2>is effective immediately and impacted employees will receive further details separately.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your contributions, Best regards, After which one

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 2>of the fired employees took to Twitter to tell the

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 2>world about this. She said, what's happening at Yes, madame?

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>First you conduct a random survey and then fire us

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 2>overnight because we're feeling stressed.

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 8>And not just me you, one hundred other people have

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 8>been fired too hashtag mass firing. The moral of the

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 8>story is, when your boss sends you a survey, don't

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 8>do it. They always say it's anonymous, but is.

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<v Speaker 3>It really Also, maybe if you're replying to it so

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 3>they say I can't handle working here, your boss thinks

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe we'll get the right.

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was a buntible choice. Maybe it felt really innocuate.

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:16.320
<v Speaker 3>That's how stressed would you feel working for a wellness platform?

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Not stressed at all, quite stressed, very stressed.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to go.

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<v Speaker 4>And pointed out this, and someone who must be getting

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 4>a little stressed about losing his job, as Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>He's about to go and we will miss him because

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 4>we will miss the marvelous moments when the telling propter

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<v Speaker 4>failed like this.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know one of the things that's going on here,

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 9>they just turned off, like I'm going to go vote.

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I lost the electrician here.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyway, One of the things we found is that you

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 9>know where we invented this semi the computer chip size

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 9>and tipping the little finger.

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<v Speaker 4>So people have been saying, what's he going to do

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 4>when he leaves the White House? Now, what other presidents

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 4>have done is they've earned a small on the speaking circuit.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton was.

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<v Speaker 4>Charging three hundred dollars for a one hour talk. They said,

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<v Speaker 4>he can't do that. He'll never get onto the speaking circuit.

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<v Speaker 4>I've worked out, yes, he will. As a comedy act.

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:16.879
<v Speaker 4>See Joe lose the plot, see the teleprompter fil see

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<v Speaker 4>him forget what he's talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you?

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<v Speaker 8>He said the electricity has failed, while all.

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<v Speaker 2>The lights are still on and his microphone is working. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a wrap from us this evening, but stay tuned

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<v Speaker 2>for the read of Hanah. He showed