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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, January twenty eighth, twenty twenty six. Giant data

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Speaker 1: centers that power artificial intelligence can't run on wind and solar.

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Speaker 1: That's the warning from one of Australia's biggest operators, next DC,

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Speaker 1: revealed in The Australian today. They say colon gas have

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Speaker 1: to be part of the system to guarantee the reliability

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Speaker 1: huge data loads require. The Muslim community must keep the

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Speaker 1: wolves from their own flock. That's the view of Scott

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Speaker 1: Morrison in a sweeping new proposal to crack down on

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Speaker 1: anti Semitic hate speech. Today the big new idea from

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Speaker 1: the former Prime Minister and how it fits into his

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Speaker 1: feud with Anthony Albinizi. Richard Ferguson is The Australian's Canberra

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Speaker 1: Press Gallery Bureau chief, and today he's reporting on a

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Speaker 1: speech made overnight by Scott Morrison in Israel to an

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Speaker 1: audience of leaders from around the world about antisemitism, but

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Speaker 1: specifically bringing the problem home to what Scott Morrison would

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Speaker 1: call hate preachers, people in Muslim communities and Muslim congregations

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Speaker 1: who are preaching antisemitism. Scott Morrison says this is something

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Speaker 1: for the Muslim community to sort out. Richard, this is

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Speaker 1: a very sensitive issue that Scott Morrison is now wading into.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen a national leader really cheat the problem

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Speaker 1: of antisemitism home to the Muslim community in quite this

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Speaker 1: way yet, have.

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Speaker 2: We Absolutely not, Claire. We have seen Josh Friedenberg Susan

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Speaker 2: Lee make a wader philosophical point that radical Islam is

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Speaker 2: the key problem that has fueled off the Bundai massacre

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Speaker 2: and the two year antisemitism crisis in Australia that led

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 3: Those who practice and preach this radical Islamist ideology. First

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Speaker 3: they come for the sat Day people, then they come

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Speaker 3: for the Sunday people. And the lesson of history is

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Speaker 3: that we're all infidels according to these radicals, and they

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Speaker 3: are here in Australia and the government needs to take

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Speaker 3: them on.

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Speaker 4: Radical Islamist extremism caused this. I repeat, radical Islamist extremism

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Speaker 4: caused this. Leaders need to be able to express this clearly,

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Speaker 4: because if you can't name the problem, you can't possibly

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Speaker 4: defeat it.

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Speaker 2: But never have we seen such a detailed police Dreven

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Speaker 2: agenda for reform in the Muselim community coming from a

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Speaker 2: national leader. So mister Morrison at the International Conference on

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Speaker 2: Anti Semitism in Jerusalem as laid out quite a list

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Speaker 2: of things he believes that the Muslim community must do.

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Speaker 2: That includes accrediting preachers, a national register of Amams, translating

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Speaker 2: their religious teachings in mosques and in Muslim schools in

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Speaker 2: the country into English so that people can access them

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Speaker 2: and see what's being said. Expanding the country's foreign transparency

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Speaker 2: scheme to include links with overseas religious groups. It is

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Speaker 2: a widespread reform that he says he wants the Muslim

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Speaker 2: community to lead, not the government to lead. That would

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Speaker 2: completely change the way the Muslim community is essentially run

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Speaker 2: in Australia. It is a very radical proposal. It is

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Speaker 2: a proposal that I think will be met with a

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Speaker 2: lot of criticism. But Scott Morrison has really prevented this

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Speaker 2: saying I know I'll be called islamophobic. That is not

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Speaker 2: what I am doing. What I am doing is trying

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Speaker 2: to say we have to have this conversation and we

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Speaker 2: need Muslim leaders to be part of this faith.

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Speaker 5: All governments should have done better.

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Speaker 1: That is my point.

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Speaker 6: Did the Morrison governor point a special envoy to combat

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Speaker 6: any Semetism?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: Did they establish the Joint Operation bringing together the AFP

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Speaker 6: and Asia to combat acts of any Semetrism? No?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, primunist, Scott Morrison has today described you delusional and

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Speaker 1: cheap for trying to shift blame.

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Speaker 5: Where are you trying to shift blame?

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Speaker 1: And what do you make of his comments?

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Speaker 5: Mister Morrison can make whatever comments he likes, as entitled

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Speaker 5: to simply making the point by quoting what members said

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Speaker 5: at that time in twenty eighteen nineteen. We have strength

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Speaker 5: and hate laws. We have not sought to go over

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Speaker 5: all the detail of the time when we had an

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Speaker 5: Attorney General in this country who said that you have

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Speaker 5: a right to be a big.

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Speaker 2: I think that Scott Morrison was definitely exercise when Anthony

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Speaker 2: Albinizi in Parliament last week tried to suggest that all

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Speaker 2: governments were to blame for the rise of anti Semitism

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Speaker 2: in Australia and singled out his government when using historical

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Speaker 2: facts and figures. And mister Morrison has definitely felt very

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Speaker 2: passionately about one our relationship with Israel into the ex

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Speaker 2: incredibly horrific rise in anti Semitism in this country on

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Speaker 2: our shores. Instead of support, we have seen that I

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Speaker 2: was leaving under the freedom of democracy in this country,

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Speaker 2: calling for the extinction of the side of Israel from

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Speaker 2: the river to the sea. That is antisemitism. But I

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Speaker 2: think that his intervention Claire is very different than what

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Speaker 2: we've seen from some former prime ministers. Usually the rivor

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Speaker 2: are defending their legacies, like Malcolm Turnbull being against August

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Speaker 2: in order to defend his deal with Emmanuel Macron for

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Speaker 2: French subs. It's different than the kind of the big

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Speaker 2: philosophical things like Paul keating on China and the American

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Speaker 2: in Alliance. It's even different really to prime ministers reacting

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Speaker 2: to events like John Howard intervening on the Voice successfully

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Speaker 2: and less successfully on the gay marriage postal survey. This

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Speaker 2: is a detailed agenda. Scott Morrison is putting ideas out there,

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Speaker 2: multiple ideas, ideas about reforming schools, ideas about reforming community bodies.

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Speaker 2: He is doing this because he believes the government is

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Speaker 2: not filling this space and that the government is not

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Speaker 2: willing to have a conversation about Muslim leadership.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to think he's also stepping in to avoid

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Speaker 1: that the opposition has left. You know that there's no

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Speaker 1: actual opposition coming from Susan Lee and David Little Proud

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Speaker 1: and what used to be the Federal Coalition. They of

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Speaker 1: course have torn themselves apart over this issue, and it's

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Speaker 1: been a long term tearing apart on this particular issue

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Speaker 1: of the balance between freedom of speech and religious freedom,

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Speaker 1: hasn't it, Richard? The Federal Coalition has been trying to

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Speaker 1: create legislation that finds a balance between stopping anyone discriminating against,

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Speaker 1: for example, gay people, and allowing religious organizations religious schools

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Speaker 1: to have the ability to make choices about who they employ,

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Speaker 1: for example. They haven't actually got to a successful piece

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Speaker 1: of legislation about that yet. And yet religious leaders have

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Speaker 1: been urging both sides of politics for many years to

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Speaker 1: give them the freedom to practice their religion as they

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Speaker 1: see fit. How does bond I shake up that conversation.

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Speaker 1: Religious leaders want reform, they want protection from anti discrimination legislation.

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Speaker 1: Do they now have to give up on that idea

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Speaker 1: given that Bondi has swept that conversation aside.

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Speaker 2: Think that the Prime Minister has made it very clear

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Speaker 2: that there will be no religious Discrimination Act or a

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Speaker 2: revival of the bits of the hate speech laws that

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Speaker 2: were dumped in this term of parliament, because religious leaders

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Speaker 2: all want some sort of protection, but they can't agree

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Speaker 2: on what protections they want. Some people want wider protections

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Speaker 2: to be able to fire people. Some like the Jewish community,

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Speaker 2: are actually more aligned with the gay and trans lobby

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Speaker 2: on basically just having a clear clamp down on speech.

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Speaker 2: It is an odd alliance in this kind of hate

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Speaker 2: speech religious speech battle that has gone on for decades now.

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Speaker 2: But I think that that will be the other reason

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Speaker 2: why Scott Morrison has tried to pitch these registers and

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Speaker 2: auditing as being self sufficient, as being Muslim led, not

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Speaker 2: government led, because he knows if he was suggesting it

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Speaker 2: the government led one, it would never get through Parliament

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Speaker 2: and two you would start to get other bodies being

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Speaker 2: by a government and therefore by a future government that

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Speaker 2: maybe imagine God forbid a world where there's a labor

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Speaker 2: Greens government and the Greens push for registers of priests etc.

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Speaker 2: Or registers of evangelical Christian preachers. That's why Scott Morrison,

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Speaker 2: I think has been very clever and very mindful of

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Speaker 2: what he's stepping into by saying, no, this isn't about

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Speaker 2: government intervention. This is about Muslim intervention. This is about

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Speaker 2: Muslim leaders intervening in their communities and saying we can't

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Speaker 2: put up with this anymore in our own communities.

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Speaker 1: Coming up? Will this big idea go anywhere? He's saying

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Speaker 1: this from the safety of Israel, He's a long way

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Speaker 1: away from the Australian debate that's going to follow this

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Speaker 1: revelation in the Australian today, Richard, where do you see

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Speaker 1: this going? Is this going to be a serious conversation

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Speaker 1: where we look at this idea or is this going

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Speaker 1: to blow up into division and more controversy.

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Speaker 2: The problem that Master Morrison does have is that his

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Speaker 2: relationship is so acrimonious with Anthony Albanisi. This is not

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Speaker 2: a normal relationship between prime ministers. Now we all know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's any secret player that most of

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Speaker 2: the Prime Ministers of Australia hate the other Prime ministers

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Speaker 2: of Australia for all different reasons. You know, we all

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Speaker 2: know that. But there is something deep and the relationship

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Speaker 2: between Morrison and Albanesi that has broken Obviously Albanzi pursued

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Speaker 2: Master Morrison over the Secret Mena Street scandal and had

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Speaker 2: a review that is now being led by the Anti

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Speaker 2: Semitism Royal Commissioner, Virginia Bell. That was the same person

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Speaker 2: who reviewed mister Morrison's Secret Ministry choices. But I think

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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison has said I have a platform, I have ideas,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to put it out there. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: Mister Morrison is not the most popular former Prime minister

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Speaker 2: in the country, but he has a platform and he

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Speaker 2: is using it and in this speech he's using it

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Speaker 2: for an extraordinary effect. He is using This is not

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Speaker 2: just one philosophical foot bubble. He has come with a

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Speaker 2: list of things the country and the Muslim community could

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Speaker 2: do to what he says to safeguard the Jewish community

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Speaker 2: but also safeguard the Muslim community.

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Speaker 1: Richard Focusing, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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