1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Revelate from every angle joining me, dan Ganay, let's bring 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: the Journal Australian, Paul Crawley and Dean Richie. We've got 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: a massive show on tonight. You are looking sensational. Bit 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: of a John Travolta about you tonight. 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: Thank you. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: The teal brings out my eyes. I reckon your face 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 3: just went a little bit red. Then no, no, you 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: look at my hazel eyes. It's here becomes a crystal. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Hazel. 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 4: It's it's a a tribute to Riley Smith's head gig. 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 5: There's only very few journals could pull this off. 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: Then yeah, all right, let's look at the ins and 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: outs around sixties to sports bets of big news. 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Edward's returns a big one for the Panthers. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Telangi replaces the injured Cole Ilias remains at half, King 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Tongya on the extended bench. For the Dragons, Reynolds is 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: named at half despite that hamstring injury, which is a 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: bit of a surprise. Townshend dropped, Savala promoted to half 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: of the roosters. The Bunnies have got Mitchell n Sullivan 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: has then new halves pairing and the Tigers welcome Luye 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: back from that one game suspension. 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: Will unpack all of that as the show goes on, 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: but Robbo. 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Acts as Townsend with six foot four Hugo Savala taking 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: the reins. 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Dan, is this the right call? 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 4: Well, they were getting, with all due respect, they weren't 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: getting much out of Town's end, so you might as 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: well blood the kid and see what he's got to offer. 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: Worst case scenario, you're going to get some first grade 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 4: experience into him. 33 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: But the wraps on him are pretty good. 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: Fascinating a six foot four half back, and he does 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: a lot of this from what we understand, and is 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 4: very good at that, So you had to try something both. 37 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they've had one win and it was against Penrith, 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 4: but that was in round two and they haven't fired 39 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 4: a shot since. 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, agree, before we get new cars. Just looking at 41 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: this vision, he's sharp. 42 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we've only seen him come into 43 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: the first grade squad. I think he's played two games 44 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: and they've used him as a bit of a utility 45 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: back row, even maybe found himself at center at one point. 46 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: But you know, watching him there as a seven, I 47 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: couldn't visualize it because he's so big. 48 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Six foot four. But he's quite effective. 49 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: He looks really good with the ball in hand, good hands, 50 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: look quick when he when he made that line break. 51 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: Is it the right call? 52 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: I think it had to be done. 53 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 54 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 6: Look he's a different player to Towns and Townsend kicks. 55 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 5: He doesn't run. 56 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 6: This guy runs like he's dangerous. 57 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 5: He's athletic. 58 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 6: Look, he's a beautiful athlete and they need to. It's 59 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 6: great to see the roosters give a kid a go, 60 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 6: you know, like they I didn't agree with them buying 61 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 6: Towns and to start with, and they've got their academy there. 62 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: Give them a go. 63 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: He's come through the academy. Buzz brought up the academy 64 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: last night. Just this vision here break. It looks like 65 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: he's happy to dig into the line too. 66 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 5: Six foot four. 67 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: It's so rare, isn't it. 68 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 5: And I don't think I've ever come across a half back. 69 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 5: But you know, he's so tall. Half packs yet. 70 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 6: But a lot of the halves in the modern game, 71 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 6: especially the five eight six two, is not uncommon. They'd 72 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 6: be you could probably name half a dozen. 73 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Really was going to stop at some point. 74 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: Ready was very passionate about Walker not returning if Rousters 75 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: can't make the finals. This is bubbled away a little 76 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: bit overnight. It was an interesting one that really brought 77 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: up and caught me off guard. 78 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: Dan. I thought, I didn't think I judged the Fighters draw. 79 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: I'll go as a knockout read. 80 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: But it is fascinating that James de Desco has come 81 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: out and said if he's ready for he'll be ready 82 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: for round twelve, which I think is far earlier than 83 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: what the people around Sam Walker thinking he may where 84 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: he may be actually ready and firing. So I don't 85 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: know if there's misinformation going on here, but that would 86 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: be nine twelve months, sorry twelve. Round twelve would be 87 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: nine min which is the usual ACL injury delay. 88 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: It is now ready. Didn't just pluck that from the 89 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: air last night. If he did, he's lost the plot. 90 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: But he's gotten that information from somewhere and there are 91 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: some people maybe that believe that he needs a little longer. 92 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's what Dan just said. I think 93 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 6: when Teddy said that on TV, he said that they 94 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 6: were looking at round twelve, which is the nine month mark, 95 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 6: and if you look at the Roosters, all their players 96 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 6: that have come back in recent times is around that 97 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 6: nine month mark. But there is a concern with younger players, 98 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 6: especially that they have been given twelve months and because Sam, 99 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 6: I guess he's at that tender point in his career, 100 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 6: there is a bit of a school of thought that 101 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 6: they'd like to see him come back and help the 102 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 6: team into the finals, not necessarily carry him into the finals. 103 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 6: But it all comes down to the doctor break, like 104 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 6: if the doctor passes him clear to play, It's like 105 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 6: you said last night, he's a paid footballer. 106 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: That's what he gets paid to do it. 107 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what you have doctors and medical staff 108 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: for to bring them back at the right time to 109 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: protect the player. I don't even know why anyone would 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: be concerned of rushing him back. They're going to rushing 111 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: back now and bringing back when it's time. And if 112 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: it's time and they can make the finals and they're 113 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: on the edge of the eight, why would you let 114 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: him have the rest of the year off. 115 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: I never that's where rest of the year was in 116 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: the conversation. 117 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: That's what you get paid to do is played rugby league. 118 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 5: Nine hundred thousand dollars a year player. 119 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: He's clearly an elite player if he's ready by a 120 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: round twelve. I can't see the logic in saying you're fit, 121 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: you're ready, you're hungry to play, you haven't played for 122 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: a long time, but we're going to keep on the 123 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: sidelines half a year would cost him four hundred and 124 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: fifty thousand to have a player sitting in the grands. 125 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 5: Then it doesn't. 126 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 6: The other side of the coin, though, dog, is that 127 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 6: you guys know better than me. But with acls you 128 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 6: can get pass fit to play. But there's always that 129 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 6: chance in the background, and giving what is he. 130 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 3: Twenty one to twenty two years of age with fourteen 131 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: years of football ahead of him, you'd want to make 132 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: sure that you're making the right But I understand that. 133 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: But how many guys you see come back from an 134 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: ACL and just do their ACL straight away? 135 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: These days? 136 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 5: Not often. It's not like it used to be. 137 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: It's just not the way it is. So where's already 138 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: getting this from? 139 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 5: I don't know, you'd have to ask him. 140 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: I think he's working off the premise and the doctor 141 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: or the pyramis that he's not going to be ready 142 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: by round towrs. When he said when he made his 143 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: suggestion resting. 144 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: For the year he's talking round twenty. 145 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: Don't play for the last four or five. 146 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: The Mickos, they're not going to make the finals. There 147 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: you go. 148 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the drawer here, so let's see with 149 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: our round twelve. They've got Brisbane this week, they'll probably lose. 150 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: Then the next three Penrith who they beat, Dragons on 151 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: Enzac Day winnable, Dolphins at home winnable. 152 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: They could be three and seventy. 153 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: This is where you know last night I just couldn't 154 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: believe it because they got okay. So South City right 155 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: now top four, looking like premiership contenders. We're arguing over 156 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: a forward pass that possibly the Rusters could have won 157 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: that game, but he's putting a red line through them 158 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: after last night, after the last week's game. 159 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: I think it doesn't make sense. 160 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 6: In fairness with Sous on the on the weekend or 161 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 6: Friday night or whenever the game was, they were missing 162 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 6: a few. 163 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 5: Roosters should have won that game. Roosters should have won 164 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: that game. 165 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 6: The fact that Sous came back from losing both halves 166 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 6: and a winger and finishing with one player on the 167 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 6: bench is what made that such an incredible win. I 168 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: think the game was there for the Roosters to win, 169 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 6: and they blew it. They did it the week earlier too, 170 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 6: you know they threw it away. 171 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: Why we what's just we don't debate this issue because 172 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: clearly it is an issue. But the Roosters are the 173 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: most professional club in rugby league and their medical staff 174 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: among the most professional we have in rugby league. They 175 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: will know exactly when Sam Walker is ready to come back, 176 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: and to suggest that they would bring him back early, 177 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: it's just. 178 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 5: Absurd, I think what it is. 179 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: Sorry, but even to your point, Cross, I know what 180 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: you're saying, but it's horses for courses. Each player will 181 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: mend at their own individual speech. 182 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: I agree totally with you, and I'm on the exact 183 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: same page that The only thing I look at here 184 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: is that there must be noise coming out of the 185 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: Walker camp. In my opinion, maybe I could be wrong, 186 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: but you want Saam Walker to want to play the 187 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: year and come back when the Roosters want him to play, 188 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: so that he's at his best and he's happy. You 189 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: don't want them not wanting him to come back when 190 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: he should and having the rest of the season off 191 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: like it just didn't make sense for to make. 192 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: Season what ready said. 193 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's outrageous, okay, because. 194 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 5: You work to a timeline. 195 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 6: He did it towards the end of last season, was 196 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 6: at the end of August. I think he is when 197 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: he did his knee, So you know, like that, they 198 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 6: worked to a timeline. And as I had it pointed 199 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 6: out to me by Brian Seni, the NRL physio, in 200 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 6: recent times, all the roosters have come back in that 201 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 6: nine month period. Previously they used to bring him back earlier, 202 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 6: but for the younger players it is twelve months. And 203 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 6: I think the Roosters even have that as a policy. 204 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: If you're saying, well you just suggested then that it 205 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: could be coming from. 206 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: The Walker camp, well who else does it? 207 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: The point I'm making is if you are correct, and 208 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: I don't know whether you are or not, but if 209 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: you are in fact right, then is Sam m talking 210 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: to those in the cab That's what That's what I'm saying. 211 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: Is it Sam who is behind the scenes suggesting that 212 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: he'd got to sit. 213 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: Out the end? I don't think that. 214 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 5: I can't believe he would not want. 215 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: To play it. 216 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't believe that Ree's a great reporter, 217 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: but he had a howl last night, and I don't 218 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: know where he's got it from, but if you you 219 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: know I it's not a hell of though. If he's 220 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: getting that information from inside the Walker can it didn't 221 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: make he did not respect though. 222 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 3: I think that people close to players often do have 223 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: different views, and you always put your own ahead of 224 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: the rest, don't you like, And if they're coming back 225 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: from it a significant injury in front of the team, 226 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: I don't think Sam Walker is putting himself. 227 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: In front of the team. 228 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: Did you just say that they have a policy in 229 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: the roosters if it's. 230 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 6: A younger, that they have a policy with younger players 231 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 6: that it's twelve months, like I'm talking eighteen year olds. 232 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 6: That's all I was going to say, they're talking juniors 233 00:09:59,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 6: or we talk. 234 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 5: But it was in twenty three, wasn't it. He did 235 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 5: is in twenty three and he was out. 236 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 4: For truth about ACL's break. As you would know is 237 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 4: the player is never as good for the first few weeks, 238 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: first few months after it's usually the So if he 239 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: came back, let's say round twelve, round thirteen, got through 240 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: this season where they're probably not going to make finals. 241 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: Let's let's be honest, then they won't be out of 242 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: the running by a round twelve. 243 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 5: They can make final, okay, regardless, And. 244 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is you get maybe and maybe you're right, 245 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: but regardless, through these few months and then by the 246 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: time we get the round one next year, he's got 247 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: the confidence back, he's got he's got some strength back 248 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: in the leg, match fitness back in the leg, and 249 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 4: now then he should be firing. 250 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: On the great point you made that I didn't get 251 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: to last night. That has been overlooked. If he comes 252 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: back and even if he plays the last five games, 253 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: it's going to benefit him next year. Then he then 254 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: he actually flies into the offseason, which you want as 255 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: your key playmaker, arguably the best player in that team, 256 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: and then he's flying round one. 257 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: You know that's what you want. It's mayor set back 258 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: if you just say, oh, you have the year off, mate, 259 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: we'll see you in the pay. 260 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: A fit elite player to sit in the grandstands. 261 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: I agree now there. 262 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: Recruitment was questioned last night by the panel. You mentioned 263 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: it earlier. Crause Clint's Emmett was I don't know. 264 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: We wasn't like ga. I think he stepped aside. 265 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Today his father is unfortunately sick, so he's moved back 266 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: to North Queensland. 267 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 5: Once you take in all this, oh look, I think 268 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 5: that's a separate issue. 269 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 6: If there is family concerns and the health of his 270 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 6: father and he's made a decision to go back to 271 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 6: the Cowboys. 272 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 5: You know, good luck to him. I think that there's 273 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 5: no question in the world. 274 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 6: Also, though in the last two years there's been a 275 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 6: lot of questionable decisions come out of the Roosters, take 276 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 6: your pick on how many. And one of the things 277 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 6: that probably as an outsider looking in, I would love 278 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 6: to see them, and I said a moment ago, with 279 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 6: this young halfback coming in this weekend, I'd love to 280 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 6: see them start trusting all the good kids that they 281 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 6: bring through that club, like they've sold it to us, 282 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 6: Like Nick went over there with Robbo and they had 283 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 6: to look at the Barcelona set up and they wanted 284 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 6: to do it themselves. 285 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 5: We'll start trusting these do you. 286 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: Think, like if they're making a play dcly, which allegedly 287 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: they are, you don't think they put enough trust in 288 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: their own No, I don't. 289 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 6: They've developed these kids to come and do a job, 290 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 6: and it's the same as Sandard Smith. You know what 291 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 6: you're saying, you haven't coached them to do the job 292 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 6: because when they brought them into the system, they thought 293 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 6: they were going to. 294 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 5: Be the players. 295 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 6: And now you're saying, okay, we're going to bring a 296 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 6: thirty seven year old half back in for two more years, 297 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: like when Penrith did it with Nathan Cleary and Lewai. 298 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: They brought those guys through what was at nine aeen 299 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 3: twenty year olds and they had a tough season first up. 300 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 6: After that they've gone through and played in five Grand finals, 301 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 6: won four premierships. Melbourne Storm. Look what the Melbourne Storm 302 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 6: have done. They go and buy thirty seven year old halfbacks. 303 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 6: They got Jerome Hughes as a young bloke that had 304 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 6: had to go at the Gold Coast, had a game 305 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 6: at the Cowboys, came as a fallback and Craig Bill 306 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 6: and he developed him into a half pack. They did 307 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 6: the same as Monster he came as a young man. 308 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 3: I'd love to see the Roosters trust their coaching to 309 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: bring through the talent that they buy. 310 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: I agree to a certain degree, but you know with DCE, 311 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: these kids aren't quite ready. 312 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: The right you bring DCE he can help that academy. 313 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: He can help that academy. He can help these kids 314 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: get better and learn from him. He can be like 315 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: a mentor and they and in that process they could 316 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: possibly fight for premission. 317 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 5: We question that can happen. No question, that can happen. 318 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: I would rather look at the Penrith system where they've 319 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: bred their own. 320 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 6: To do it, and you know, like the Ethan Stranger, 321 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 6: they did and it worked, it did. But Ethan Stranger 322 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 6: is another one. 323 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: Do you reckon? 324 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: If Ethan's Strange was at the Roosters and hadn't gone 325 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: to Cambrust, he would have got the opportunity. 326 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Definitely, really, I don't I don't think he would have 327 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: got the play first. 328 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 5: Here is quick, no way quick? 329 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: You mean let you finish? 330 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I truly think that sometimes the Roosters are on 331 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: the side of caution instead of giving these young I 332 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: think we're giving the roosters a bit of a hard 333 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: time over this academy or lack of who's coming through. 334 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 5: They've got some good kids coming through. 335 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 6: And yet in these in these price. 336 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: Jumped on at the moment a broad Brandon Smith over 337 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: over the top of guys that they had there. 338 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 5: But that's just and now they've gone and got Rhys Robson. 339 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 5: But that's what clubs do. They buy all the players. 340 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 6: They don't. Penrith don't do that. Dog Melbourne haven't done 341 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 6: that Like Melbourne this year I would. I would go 342 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 6: as far as to say, I'd say Stefano is really 343 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 6: the only marquee type signing that I can remember Melbourne making. 344 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 6: But again, Dan, they're they're they're they're bringing these players 345 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 6: through as as young guys and they're develop into the superstars. 346 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: Robson's pretty good signing though. Robson's a great signing. 347 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: Robson's a great signing, but again they're bringing him over 348 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: the top of the guys they have there. 349 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 5: I spoke to of a CEO last week. 350 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: I won't mention who it is because I don't want it, okay, 351 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: but he said to me that we're not going to 352 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: resign a key player because the kids underneath get restless. 353 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: If it's one more year, they'll want to go. So 354 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: that just shows you the new age kid though, doesn't want. 355 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 5: To do the hard work. 356 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: Sorry I'll rephrase that, doesn't want to wait breath like 357 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: previous players had waited. They want everything now and if 358 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: that player was to be resigned, there'd be a surge 359 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: toward the. 360 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: Except that's why the Bulldogs pulled out of DC, because 361 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: that's kind of their sister theory at the moment their ethos. Okay, 362 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: lockey Ilias survives. Will Flanno stay patient? 363 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: Boys? 364 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 5: I think it's their best option. It was Jesus. 365 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 6: I felt for him on the weekend in a golden 366 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 6: point and the game there to be won, and after 367 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 6: what had happened, like he'd come back and had a 368 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 6: good game against the Storm, but against sous where they 369 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 6: dropped that twelve point lead and he caught the roast 370 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 6: from Flenno at at the postmatch pressure and then he's 371 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 6: put that kick out and then Lomax has come back 372 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 6: from that and won the game. He must have been 373 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 6: half broken, but but I keep going back to the 374 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 6: point he's coming back from a broken leg. The club 375 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 6: bought him because they obviously believe he's the best they got. 376 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 6: Now they got two promising young guys in New South 377 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: Wales coup, but they obviously didn't think that they were ready. 378 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 6: I'd give him, I'd give him at least ten rounds. 379 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: He's got to be a stick he's got to be 380 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: better now. The weekend was a big miss from him. 381 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: You know, he had the opportunity there to I said, 382 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: or put his team in a better position. 383 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: He went for a forty twenty. He got it wrong. 384 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: You just can't do that. 385 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: And this game here, obviously, we saw the backlash from that, 386 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: and you know it knocked him around a little bit. 387 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: Come back on the weekend, had his opportunity, and you know, 388 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: I felt sick for him, I really did, because it 389 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: was like living a nightmare. 390 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm passionate about him. I look after him, but 391 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, he has got to be better. You know, 392 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't think. 393 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't think you'll have ten rounds, you know, I 394 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: think it's the next two or three weeks. You know. 395 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Really, so the. 396 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: Option there is it is it Flanner comes in and 397 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 3: moves him, he goes half back, and then they bring 398 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: the young guy. 399 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't there's some raps on him. 400 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: Problem breath is when a team loses by twelve, it's 401 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 4: usually the organizer of the gets play. You can't blow 402 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: a twelve point leader, and unfortunately for the Dragons have 403 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: done it twice. 404 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: I'm worried though and breath you're the bloke to Anthei. 405 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: Is Lachlan Ilius becoming the punching bag? 406 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: It just seems to be. 407 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 5: Yes. 408 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: I know he's got some flaws in his game. I 409 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: get it, and we all see it. But it just 410 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: seems to be a bloke that is targeted with each loss. 411 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 5: Let's just blame Lochlanillius. It was a bit like Mitchell 412 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 5: Pierce at the Roosters. 413 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: Mitchell Pierce put up. 414 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: With more than anyone in the current era when it 415 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: came to criticism. Now, I'm not comparing the two as players. 416 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, is Illius being unfairly targeted? 417 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: Wek I'm a truth to that, but that comes with 418 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: the terror and you need to handle that. 419 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 6: But other players play poorly and they don't seem because 420 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 6: it's the number. 421 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: It's the seven jumper. 422 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 6: I remember interviewing Braith when he was a kid and 423 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 6: you were nineteen twenty, and that you were carrying that 424 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 6: responsibility as a young man, you know, straight into first grade, 425 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 6: straight up. He was carrying all the young guys have 426 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 6: to do with dog and if he's. 427 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: Going to kick out on the film performer, you don't 428 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: have to talk about that incident. I'm saying, excuse, I'm 429 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: just saying, sometimes, whether it be inadvertently or accidentally, some 430 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: players just seem. 431 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: To have a target on the pad in that game. 432 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: Just quietly too shot that even even Tyrrel Sloane has 433 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: has got another game because I thought I thought he 434 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: was another guy on the weekend that made some some 435 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: of his runs, you know, a winger. 436 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: And we's the seven. The seven has to win that game. 437 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: You're up twenty to eight two weeks ago, this week 438 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 4: twelve on Souse. 439 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: You've got to win that game. Win the game. Just 440 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: not come up with an error like that, you know 441 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: what I mean? You just he kicks. All he had 442 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: to do is kick it along into the corner, try and. 443 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: Win the field position and possession and then get yourself 444 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: in a position to win. He eliminated all that with 445 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: poor execution. And as the key seven, you can't you 446 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: can't do that. 447 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 6: It happened, it doesn't and and now it's it's his 448 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 6: chance and he has to bounce from it, that's what 449 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 6: And he's got what you say. 450 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: Two or three weeks you know, I think, really to 451 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: bounce back, and that's what he has to do otherwise, Dog, 452 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 3: he doesn't deserve his spot in the two. But they 453 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 3: have bought him in the offseason, right, you can't buy a. 454 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 5: High profile player. 455 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: And he was at Soucid because he was in a 456 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: gun side there and then just ditch him. Flannel's got 457 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: to show a bit of patience, and Flannel will years, 458 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: and I think he is. 459 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 5: We're only five games in, you know. 460 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: I think there's got to be some time for this 461 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: kid to learn his trade at a new club, and 462 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: he had a broken leader. 463 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: They only lost those two games one point. 464 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 5: This is the argument I'm fighting for it. So if 465 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: we put all together, we're having. 466 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: The team is this close, they could be easily two 467 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: wins and they just haven't, which. 468 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 5: Is not too bad either. 469 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: And they and they and they beat the Storm and 470 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: and when you look through that Dragon's roster and stack 471 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 3: it up against some of the other teams in the competition, 472 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: it's not really a fair. 473 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: Po I agree with you a lot on that. 474 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: In a fresh Headache from our Menja mso Tabio i 475 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: FD has opened up about the possibility of switching his 476 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: allegiance to. 477 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 7: I think, yeah, just a big, big part of it 478 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 7: just representing my dad's side. I know I've already done 479 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 7: it one son, but yeah, it'll be pretty special to 480 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 7: do it again. But yeah, in the near future, see 481 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 7: see what happens. 482 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: Smart and Jeremi and I been playing for small Pretty 483 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: cool to playoff on that stage as well. 484 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously I played up played up North with them 485 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 7: and they're They're two blokes that I get along well 486 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 7: with and pretty cool thing to do, I think, especially 487 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 7: for a nation luck some more, it's it's pretty cool 488 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 7: how many someone's do play in the NROL, And yeah, 489 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 7: it's a pretty pretty special team to have if they 490 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 7: if they do pull it together, it would be a 491 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 7: special team. 492 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: Sam, I have some extraordinary talent in our game, the hammer. 493 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't say that he's going to play 494 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: for SAMO. 495 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: I think he kind of said if he doesn't make 496 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: the Australian team he would play for them, or Am 497 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: I getting that? 498 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: I think it was a bit more direct, you do. 499 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: I think apparently the club clarified and said if he's 500 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 4: not picked for Australia, yes he'll go. 501 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 5: To some Okay, Okay, so that's fair enough. 502 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: What's wrong with it? 503 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: Nothing wrong with that? 504 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 6: I thought I thought it was the other way around, 505 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 6: and he was another one that was likely to choose 506 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 6: Samoa ahead of Australia, which if that was the case 507 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 6: for me, we're reaching Chrisi's point because and again if 508 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 6: Hammer said it the other way, well mate, he's entitled 509 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 6: to do that, and they're all entitled to make their 510 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: own choice for that matter. But what I'm saying from 511 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 6: an Australian perspective, we can't continue to believe that Tonga 512 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 6: and Samoa are Tier two nations when they're going to 513 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 6: field the teams that they've got teams of superstars and 514 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 6: it's got nothing to do with the pathways because they'll 515 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 6: never have the pathways in their country that will match 516 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 6: up against what Australia and everyone. 517 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: Okay, now, during the day a few of us went 518 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: to the lab and we've come up with the potential 519 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Samoan team. 520 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: Now I have a look at this one through to 521 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: eighteen even nineteen. 522 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: It is on the look Josh Propali in that seventy 523 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: you can't get Josh Propali's. 524 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 5: True, that's not te regard. 525 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 6: And this is this, this is a decision that the 526 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 6: NRL is going to have to be tough on because 527 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 6: Origin is the big fish in this too, and it's 528 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 6: the cash cow, it's the it's it's the history of 529 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 6: our game. 530 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 5: Girls. 531 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: Money is always going to win. 532 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: And they all protect Origin before they worry about the 533 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: sanctity of Test football. 534 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: But how do you protect Origin rather you separate rules. 535 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 5: You're wrong, You're. 536 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 6: Wrong, mate, because the problem at the moment is not 537 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 6: what it's it's the history of Origin and the players 538 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 6: that are coming through. If if there's people in they're 539 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 6: entitled to do it, but they continue to play for Samoa, 540 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 6: well then the Australian will the rules have to change. 541 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 6: And once you once you have major declaration to one 542 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 6: of these nations, which should be Tier one, from that 543 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 6: moment on, you shouldn't be playing origon you shouldn't be 544 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 6: playing Origin. 545 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: This is where I disagree with you. 546 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 4: Tabi Fudo born in Kennes, raised in Kens played for 547 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: the Kens King He's a Queenslander and I'm happy for. 548 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: Usually sits in that seat. And you listen to Gordon 549 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: talk about this with passion, Brian, he says it all 550 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: the time. 551 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 4: Obviously I don't have the credibility of Gordon Tallis. But 552 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 4: Brian Tottle born in Sydney raised it in St Mary's. 553 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: He's a New South Welshman. They all are damned they 554 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 4: are New South Welshman and queens The problem. 555 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 6: The problem is long term Origin will die if you 556 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 6: don't protect it. It will because it will no longer 557 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 6: be that made against mentality. 558 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 5: Ask your question, do we think that all the money. 559 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: In the world to do with Australia, with picking between 560 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: Australia and some so've we've used examples of players who 561 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 4: still want to and be honest, I want to get 562 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: the money to play for New South Wales and Queensland, 563 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: but also want to play for some more or Tonga. 564 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: But what's the problem. 565 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 5: He's the latest problem. I heard last week it was mentioned. 566 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 6: Along the grapevine that there may be a push in 567 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 6: the next CBA to double the payments and make Origin 568 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 6: worth two hundred. 569 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 5: Thousand should be it's worth one hundred million dollars. 570 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 4: It's worth one hundred million dollars and the players are 571 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: getting three percent. 572 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: Listen, three per players are well imbursed to play rugby 573 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: league origin. They initially played state of Origin. It was 574 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: a couple of thousand dollars, two hundred thousand dollars. 575 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 5: It was different than the black and white they are bringing. 576 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: All the NRL does is boast one hundred million. 577 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: Dollars go and sell that they're getting. 578 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: They're the ones getting bashed up. They're putting on the show. 579 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 4: They're getting three and a half million, they're getting thirty 580 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: grand a game and. 581 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 6: One hundred grand for the series mate. They're talking about 582 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 6: bringing it up to two. 583 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: Well they're saying one hundred and they're talking about putting 584 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: it up to two hundred grand. 585 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: Anyway, Well, that. 586 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: Was nice before, But I can I ask a question 587 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: because that list were just flashed up there. 588 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: Well, I'm trying to get in before that list we 589 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 5: flashed up. 590 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: Is that indicator to nivus in some small way that 591 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: playing for Australia isn't as high a priority as it 592 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: once was. 593 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 5: Is it not quite as attractive? 594 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 3: In the old days, we would cut off a right 595 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 3: or left arm to play for your country. These people 596 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 3: are now saying we don't want to play for the Kangaroos, 597 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: we want to go elsewhere. 598 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 5: And I love the Kangaroos and I love the jump 599 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 5: and what it represents. I'm not saying it's fand I'm 600 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: not saying it's bad. 601 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: I'm just saying though, suddenly it seems to be that 602 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: the king or his jumper doesn't much. 603 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: It's a concerns, but so many players are looking to 604 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: go to flat you know. 605 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: I mean Kaylen was an example the back end of 606 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: last year. You know, he didn't even tell Mew that 607 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: he wasn't well. 608 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: That was insulting. 609 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: But they're not trying to have a crak Kaitlin. 610 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: It was just My point is that that that there 611 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: is even at the back because there's so much rugby 612 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 2: league played now too, and you've got a long season. 613 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: It's harder, it's faster. 614 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: The players at at the back end of the year 615 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: have nearly had enough and it's like, you know, they 616 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: shouldn't even be questioning whether they want to play for 617 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: Australia or not, and they are not. Only are they 618 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: questioning if they want to play for them and then 619 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: deciding to go elsewhere. It's not I don't I don't 620 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: have an issue with it, but it could be a problem. 621 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: Form like mal last week he wake up to a 622 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: headline that paying Hears wants to go and then Tino 623 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: wanted to go two days later. Will always be strong 624 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 3: Australia because of the depth in our country, but it 625 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: seems to me each year it's eroding the honor of 626 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: playing for the Kangaroos. 627 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: All right, stick around journals can't wait for this week 628 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: The Masters is on. 629 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: It's a on us and the only. 630 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: Place to see all the action live in Australia is 631 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports. Catch Round one live from ten thirty 632 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: pm Thursday night on Channel five oh three. 633 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 5: This golf course just si Dominion Stone. 634 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: That is just awesome. You can't make it up.