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Speaker 1: We've had a few Christmas as early in the AFL

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Speaker 1: super Coach world in December, but this is the real one.

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Speaker 1: This is, of course the Phantom speaking back in the

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Speaker 3: Look, they've brought of the big names for this one.

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Speaker 2: It is it is. We'll get to that in a

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Speaker 1: Christmas is December twenty five, but we've got a better

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Speaker 3: Big that everyone's been waiting for. They think we've teased

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Speaker 2: Some of those teasers. It is time though, to announce what.

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Speaker 1: Fans December eighteen, Wednesday, December eighteen, twenty twenty four, seven

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Speaker 1: days before Christmas, the real Christmas. The AFL Super Coach

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Speaker 1: Team Picker is open for super Coach Plus subscribe December eighteen, Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: You've got a whole week dossie to get on there

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Speaker 1: and pick your team before Christmas is love course on

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Speaker 1: Christmas Day, Boxing Day as well, the cricket might be on.

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Speaker 1: We all know where it's at the Super Coach Team

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Speaker 1: Picker December eighteen dossie, which also means.

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Speaker 2: We've got the prices. Betweenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: We do have the prices, so this is a double up.

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Speaker 3: It's the announcement, but it is the price leaks that

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Speaker 2: Fans. So some big news, some big news that people

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Speaker 1: We've now we are now the dropping the big the prices,

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Speaker 3: Bargains, absolute lots of bargains. We'll get back to some

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Speaker 3: kind of at come the new year. But Sam Lawler

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we've seen here's what he can do

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Speaker 1: that's good for super Coach. He's going to score well

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Speaker 1: a statsman. We don't like that. No, we don't like

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Speaker 1: stats man. What is we all doing to us? Obviously

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Speaker 1: no super cut. Maybe he's trying to talk his maybe

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Speaker 1: I think we might see a bit of what we

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty four super coach points at coachs

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Speaker 1: That is cheap we know for him, and even at

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Speaker 1: Eighty one ok average one hundred and twenty six zero

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. It's a lot going there.

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Speaker 1: Going back, you look have a coin there, DOSSI changing

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Speaker 2: Actually.

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Speaker 1: The comment over from Melbourne about us is that we're

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Speaker 1: So if you go guns and rookies, he might be

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Speaker 1: on the field, but then also just hasn't yet put

441
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: it together consistently. But I think it's any amount of

442
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: time until he does so five thirty seven KR. I

443
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: think of the year he finally does exceed that and pushes,

444
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: you know to those bigger three figure averages one hundred

445
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Speaker 1: and five, one hundred and ten. Maybe if it all

446
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 1: goes well, so look him in now.

447
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Speaker 3: I know you love the Horny one. I'm a big

448
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: fan as well. Was in my team last year as

449
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: a mid only. But it is a big price to

450
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: pay and you're going to have to bank on him

451
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: sort of going up a fair bit early days. Could

452
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: you think he's going to be the Sam Flanders type

453
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Speaker 3: guy of twenty twenty five?

454
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Speaker 1: Maybe not to the exact heights of Sam Flanders, they

455
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: were big heights, but I think you're picking him to

456
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Speaker 1: be a top three forward.

457
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: Yep.

458
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: Speaking of Sam Flanders, big is he for? He's not

459
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Speaker 3: a Ford, He's a defender mid. The most expensive defender

460
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Speaker 3: Sam Flanders. It's unbelievable, couldn't get a game a year

461
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Speaker 3: and a half ago. How much is he exactly six forty.

462
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: One five hundred, one hundred and nineteen points per game,

463
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: so forty less than the Bond himself, so six k

464
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: more than the second highest price defender, Harry Cheezel at

465
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: six thirty five K.

466
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: Both potential options for Big Dossi in twenty twenty five.

467
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: They're just so good.

468
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: We saw how impressive and incredibly consistent they were last year.

469
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: Fans are we're going to get defenders that can come

470
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: anywhere near them this year. We're sort of almost blessed

471
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: to have them both as defender eligible, given that they

472
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 3: did spend a fair chunk of time in the guts

473
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Speaker 3: late last season.

474
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Speaker 1: Dossi with the big revelations here on the Phantoms There

475
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Speaker 1: Super Coach podcast. The two highest screwing defenders from last

476
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: year are in the conversation for his team.

477
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Speaker 2: Lucky.

478
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: We've got them as defenders? Is war what I'm saying

479
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 3: because I think Fantasy freco put out there that She's

480
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: Will only just.

481
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: Sreakman just snuck in. Yep.

482
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Speaker 1: And I know there was people out there last year

483
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Speaker 1: who questioned that Harry She's al selection. We'd have a

484
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: friend won't name him again, but might have been Patch

485
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: who traded Harry She's all out. And he wasn't the

486
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: only one. When Harry She's Will moved out that role

487
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: in defense. We always knew it was going to happen eventually.

488
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: Too good a player to still be used in defense.

489
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: Finding his feet at the April level has more than

490
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: done that now equally as effective in Super Coach playing

491
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Speaker 1: that midfield mid ford role, which we will see in

492
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Speaker 1: tween twenty five. So you think at least defender midfielder

493
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Speaker 1: for Harry Sheeesel. Maybe after round six in super coach,

494
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Speaker 1: but I still like him as well at the price

495
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: in defense, load up with those big options. Sam Flanders

496
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Speaker 1: probably in that role, I can't see it changing the

497
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Speaker 1: way he wins the footy.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fresh haircut.

499
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: As well, doing the rounds on social media as Sam Flanders.

500
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: But yeah, his play style, the way he plays, I

501
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: mean Dimmer the moment he arrived, Dimmer was saying, you know,

502
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 3: lock this guy into your super coach team. Essentially we're

503
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Speaker 3: going to get him the ball. Yeah, I don't see

504
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 3: how it could change. Although, yeah, I mean the ceilings

505
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: and the heights that he hit last year. It's gonna

506
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: be hard to replicate that in general, because that was

507
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: just an amazing season from Flanders. I think he continued

508
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: the most runs of one hundred plus scores I think

509
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: in a row that we saw last year. So to

510
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Speaker 3: be able to replicate that, you know, it's going to

511
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Speaker 3: be a tough task, but he's still just well and

512
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Speaker 3: truly in my sight.

513
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Speaker 1: It's another one you're on your radar speaking of how

514
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: he she's Colin mckirtch, the one that came in and

515
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: did take that role across half back four seventy six

516
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: krriage eighty eight points per game four seventy six awkward price.

517
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Speaker 3: It is awkward, but you might be rewarded. It's one

518
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Speaker 3: of those ones. There is a couple of names in

519
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: that sort of bracket where you can really get pretty

520
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: happy with your mid price madness. This year, there is

521
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Speaker 3: quite a lot of mid price names. So yeah, it's

522
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Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see the balance of primo

523
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: primos and rookies versus mid prices. He's one that's high

524
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Speaker 3: on the radar. The issue obviously being that he did

525
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Speaker 3: have a couple of injuries in that in that rookie year.

526
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Speaker 2: You know, what are we going to.

527
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 3: See in you two? You'd hopefully that his body matures.

528
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 3: He's getting he's getting fitter and stronger every day. So

529
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: mcurch's high, high, high, high on my radar to start

530
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Speaker 3: next year. But there is a lot of tempting players

531
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Speaker 3: in that price backup. We already mentioned a Callum Mills.

532
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 3: There's another Sydney Swan player that I know you're a big.

533
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Speaker 2: Fan of our man over here.

534
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Speaker 1: We pumped him up, got him on the radar of

535
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: super coaches at the start of last year. Matti Roberts

536
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: four thirty four K. We knew he was a big,

537
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 1: big super coach numbers man as a junior. You finally

538
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: starting to show that at the top level. Inner roll

539
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: across half back for the Swan's great price for thirty

540
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Speaker 1: four k. Obviously now he settled in that role, so

541
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Speaker 1: one to watch over the preseason. Had a request on

542
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: X as well at the Phantom sc an interesting name

543
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: in the back line that a few would have forgotten about,

544
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: even if Doss Kitty Cohen from the Lions ACL last year.

545
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: We sort of absolutely dominate the Grand Final in twenty

546
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: twenty three, one hundred super Coach points before the main

547
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: break two sixty nine k all going well in his recovery.

548
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: If he is okay to hit the ground running from

549
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: the outset to sixty nine K, that's it's hard to

550
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Speaker 1: pass up regardless.

551
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Speaker 3: It's it's absolute dirt, dirt cheap. A couple more cheap,

552
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 3: cheap options in defense as well. We're talking we're tight cheap,

553
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: talking that mid price bracket still, but let's go even cheaper.

554
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: I know a lot of Essendon fans out there wondering

555
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: about sad l Hawley. Yes, didn't get a game in

556
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: the end last year, so thankfully we have him super

557
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 3: cheap one hundred and nineteen point nine not quite your

558
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: ninety nine k rookie their fans.

559
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: But the new one twenty three k rookie price.

560
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: Yep, so super cheap for us, Sard L Hawley, and

561
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: he's got defend the mid as well, yep.

562
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: Going well at training.

563
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: The bomber was actually put through a bit of an

564
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: old school running session at training last week. Our reporter

565
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: Hilton Report Josh Barnes was down there and did feedback

566
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Speaker 1: that Andy McGrath as per was leading the group through

567
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: the running session. Right behind him was our man Tard.

568
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: So good to see he's up there. Hopefully he can

569
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Speaker 1: push his way in to that side. And very thankful

570
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: now they didn't get a game last year.

571
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Speaker 3: Dare I say a potential starting toron field for us

572
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: if it does get a game, even at that price,

573
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Speaker 3: Agent min Ye bow Alan, Let's get to a couple

574
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: of Eagles. We know all the fans out there on

575
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: those list. Mighty West Coast equals bo Allen one hundred

576
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: and thirty six K defender mid. You'd think if he's

577
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: you know, if he's going to be playing early days,

578
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: that he's a great option down there cheapest chips can

579
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: sid him on the bench if you need as well,

580
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: see how he's going, but defend a mid flexibility there

581
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: and job security you'd think would be pretty high at

582
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 3: West Coast early days. Elijah Hewitt did not play at

583
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: all last year after having serious injuries across the year,

584
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: but should be in the frame to play this year.

585
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: A mid forward one hundred and twenty.

586
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: Two point eight k so another guy that Look, he's

587
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: in the West Coast. He's a big, big part of

588
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: the West Coast Eagles future.

589
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: Elijah Hewitt, if he.

590
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: Is good to go to start the season. Look, I

591
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: think that'd be incredibly hard to pass up player of

592
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Speaker 3: his caliber.

593
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: Dare I say, now.

594
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: We've got through a fair part of the show, big show.

595
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of prices to get through, but you

596
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: still haven't mentioned the price you really want to get

597
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: out there.

598
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: We're staying on there, Eagles.

599
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: This might have been your own segue into it, but

600
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: I've taken the bait, led you right into it.

601
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Speaker 2: Harley read second year man, what is he?

602
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: Harly read four hundred and thirty four thousand dollars? He's

603
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: going to set you back?

604
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: Is it too much? No?

605
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: No, mid only is the is the tough part. Look,

606
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Speaker 3: he's not a forward this year, so you're going to

607
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: have to back him in as a mid only.

608
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Speaker 2: Price to eighty eighty the price he gets to does

609
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: he go mid nineties? Does he go? Does he go there?

610
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Speaker 3: Look, I'm not going to lie. It's a tough price.

611
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: It's a tough position. I'll be keeping an eye on him.

612
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: He already had that concussion in the preseason to date

613
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 3: for this twenty twenty five upcoming season, so he's already

614
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: had a little bit of a setback just in the

615
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Speaker 3: preseason alone already, so that you know it's a tough one.

616
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Speaker 2: But right, he'll be on my be on my raider.

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Speaker 1: Okay, head to head, similar price midfielders. This guy's at

618
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Speaker 1: four sixty one K average eighty five and a half

619
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Speaker 1: points per game last year George wardlaw I said he's

620
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Speaker 1: gonna be my first picked on the show last time

621
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Speaker 1: for sixty one k, another awkward price. Would you back

622
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Speaker 1: in how you read over George wardlaw in that bracket

623
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Speaker 1: in the midfield.

624
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Speaker 3: Yes, and I'll tell you why though it is purely

625
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: competition for touches at North versus West Coast. Now you

626
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: could probably go the other way and say, well, it's

627
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: gonna be harder for Harley Reed to get the ball

628
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: in his hands because it'll be in the opposition's hands

629
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: a lot more. But George wardlaw LDU Sheezel, keep going

630
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: mkircheer if he's going to play through there as well.

631
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: Luke Park has come across. There's a lot of name,

632
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: there's a lot of the sac question. Well maybe not Zach,

633
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: but even Tristian Sherry can get his hands on the

634
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: ball as well. There's no one of that caliber aside

635
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: from you know, an Elliot Yo at the moment at

636
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Speaker 3: West Coast. So I mean, if you want to put

637
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: Tim Kelly in that bracket as well, but Harley Reid,

638
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: you know he's going to be the man in there,

639
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: even if it's his second year. So that is why

640
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: I'd go there. Another name though in that price bracket.

641
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: So we're talking all Midbruce Manness. This is what I

642
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: was talking about.

643
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: We started the show guns and rookies. Now Clayton Oliver.

644
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: Oh, he's probably on a fair few people's never again

645
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: list after last year. Four hundred and fifty one thousand,

646
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: six hundred.

647
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: That is.

648
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: Just dirt cheap for Clayton Oliver and what he can

649
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: do already back in preseason training, we've seen some footage. Look,

650
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: it's not the greatest footage Gavinder Howe, but it is footage. Nonetheless,

651
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: he's out there. He wasn't out there at this time

652
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: last year. So Clayton Oliver for me is a massive watcher.

653
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: And dare I say my earliest hot take Clayton Oliver

654
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: is a lock for twenty twenty five.

655
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: Started at last year price six hundred and seventy four K.

656
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: That's how recently we know he was a good scorer,

657
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: a great super coach scorer. Yes, a plenty has happened

658
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: since then, still plan to happen over the preseason, but

659
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: four fifty one K. I tend to agree with the

660
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: Locke call what a three point eight ended up averaging

661
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: last year? Yeah, a full preseason? Nor the what is

662
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: the worst that happens?

663
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: I mean the.

664
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: Worst, the absolute worst, like I still think in ninety plus.

665
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: Would be the four.

666
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: I think it would be the deadset floor, and I'd

667
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: be expecting, like I can't see myself not starting with him.

668
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: The only thing would be if there is literally any

669
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: red flags this preseason any at all, you know, miss

670
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: something training, weird story, weird news whatever, some sort of

671
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: issues with coach or trade demands. Like that's when I'll

672
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: be like, nah, okay, I'm out. But as far as

673
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: I know, you know, all he's all he want to

674
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: do this year is rebuild his stock back up, you know,

675
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: potentially do the right thing by Melbourne. Potentially just do

676
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: the right thing by himself for his for his offseason

677
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: trade next year. Either way, there's just no way that

678
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: I don't see him having a bounce back here.

679
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: Yep, another one I mentioned late last year. You know,

680
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to go early on a bit of a

681
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: call in Super Coach, do you DOSSI got a few

682
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: right in my time, Jamar?

683
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, we did mentioned him.

684
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: We finally got his price for twenty twenty five three

685
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: fifty five K. Now, there was times last year when

686
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: he looked unstoppable as a Ford. The ball would be

687
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: sent down long and no one even looked like marking

688
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: it other than Jamarrow when he was there, come from

689
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: nowhere across the side of the pack to clunk it.

690
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: We know he's good at ground level.

691
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Two some super coach Tonzi at the back end of

692
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: the season priced at sixty six K. Now, that's value

693
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: since I've said it, though obviously trade periods happened, We've

694
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: got some cheaper players, and that forward line is looking

695
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: very crowded. Can I fit Jamari in at three fifty

696
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: five K? I still have him in there. I want

697
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: to do it. It might all depend on what happens

698
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: to those other options over the preseason.

699
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: They all.

700
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: Enter around one looking as good as they do right now.

701
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: Team pick of eight December eighteenth. Not sure Jamorrow is one.

702
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: There could be a big pod play. Probably has.

703
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: More chance of backfiring than some of those other names.

704
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just so many names in the forward line.

705
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm even looking now, you.

706
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: Know, not trying to throw in another West Coast name,

707
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: but Leam Baker four hundred and forty three point six k.

708
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: You know, talk about him playing off a half back.

709
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: Could he be another great option?

710
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: You know?

711
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: In the defensive line for West Coast. There's there's just

712
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: a stack of names. I mean, joy Simpkin was a

713
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 3: popular name back then. He's at an awkward price. Sam Darcy,

714
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: who was monstrous towards the end of last year. He's

715
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty seven K. So I do like that,

716
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: like that option you. In fact, I Reckon called him

717
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: called Jamara a potential lock in your team towards the

718
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: end of last year. So you've sort of already made

719
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 3: that decision.

720
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: So you've got to basically get it by it. Maybe

721
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: I will, all right, Jamath five good price.

722
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm not against it, by the way, I think you

723
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: know he is going to come into his own at

724
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: some time and just be an unstoppable beast every single week.

725
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: Whether or not he has that consistency this year, Let's

726
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: let's find.

727
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: Out Riley Sanders three thirty nine K. We know how

728
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: much of a magnet he can be. Price at sixty

729
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: two or sixty three points per game in twenty twenty five,

730
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: all comes down to bevo. He was the ball magnet

731
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: of his draft year, the super coach king of his

732
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: draft year. So no Jack mcrather anymore bit of movement

733
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: around in that dog's midfield. One to keep an eye

734
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: over summer.

735
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: I think sounds good, fans, I reckon, We've gone through

736
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: a stack of names for people. They're going to be

737
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: able to look themselves in just a couple of days time.

738
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: December eighteen Wednesday for the team picker. I feel like

739
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: we just I know you're going to jump in and

740
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: say something else, fans, but we need to speak about

741
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 3: just a couple of the teams that we haven't touched

742
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: on just yet. Maybe just like a name from a

743
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 3: couple of the teams that we haven't touched on.

744
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: Yep, you can do that quickly.

745
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: No, that one, you know, I'd like to keep the

746
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: fans happy all next at the Phantom sc But U

747
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: Kiss has popped up with another one, Sam Dougherty. We've

748
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: got man we didn't go through in when we're talking

749
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: about the defenders. He's not a defender in twenty twenty

750
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: five midfield only Sam Dougherty four hundred and eighty seven K.

751
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: He will be priced at in twenty twenty five.

752
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: That is very cheap.

753
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 3: But again, just the amount of players there and now

754
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: unfortunately is as sad as it is his injury history.

755
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: It's going to be hard to go go there, I

756
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: think with mid only status, Yep, it's tough. Doc, do

757
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: love my doc. Wait see Nick Dakos six hundred and

758
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: thirty one thousand, four hundred as a mid only Now

759
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: he was the the one of the ones that we

760
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: were pairing with the Harry Sheesel in the office in

761
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: last season in our defensive lines, but available as mid

762
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: only this year. I believe they have the opening round

763
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: by as well, something to factor in, you know, playing

764
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: the one less game than a lot of primos that

765
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: you can select. And seventeen was his average last year.

766
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: Is he a guy that you just set and forget though?

767
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 3: Nick Dekos as the next kind of bond like player

768
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: in our teams. You know, I'm looking at a Sheesel,

769
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: especially a Flanders. Yeah, correct, in terms of that just

770
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 3: high ceiling player that you can hold all year. Dekos

771
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: started slow last year, but could you back him in

772
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: this year to sort of keep up an average all

773
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: season long?

774
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: I think you can.

775
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: I think he can hit the one twenty point mark

776
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: this year. Nick Dakos six thirty one K. You know,

777
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: there's not a player at all like him coming to

778
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: you on his own level, in his own regard, in

779
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: his own different way to what Marcus Bontepelli is average

780
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen points per game last year. I

781
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: think he might be a bit of a pod too,

782
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: Lossie potentially. I know he's a big name no defense status.

783
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: We know that.

784
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. We talk about it

785
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: every summer. He lose DPP and you lose out a

786
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: little bit. In the minds of Super Coach players out there,

787
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: you might have Eble look a player that's only a

788
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: single position player in Super Coach. But Nick Dakos on

789
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: another level, I don't mind it because I think he

790
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: might not be picked.

791
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a good call.

792
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 3: If you're getting Nick Dakos as a POD, that's I

793
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: think early.

794
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: But probably I think we looked too much into that

795
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: last year, catered for that a little bit too much.

796
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: I think we can probably do it even less as well.

797
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: With the flex position. We've got that extra number. Now

798
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: we know twenty two of your twenty three players score

799
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: in any round of Super Coach with the flex position

800
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: the introduction of it, so you know you've got that

801
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: little buffer.

802
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: Going to go through a couple of final names here,

803
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: fans of just some teams. We didn't speak about a

804
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: stack A few docers fans out there, Hayden Young no

805
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: longer man, no longer a defender.

806
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: But they also sayd I lock him in as well.

807
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: Five hundred and forty six thousand one hundred, so average

808
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: just a tick over one hundred last year, you give

809
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: it to pay up that but not quite the six

810
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: hundred k mark.

811
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: Another one lock him here for one ten.

812
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: Another docer potentially under priced here coming across to a

813
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: team where it might be in the forward line a

814
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: little bit more than it was last year. Shape Bolton

815
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: priced seventy seven, which is four hundred and sixteen thousand,

816
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 3: one hundred as a forward mid. I believe the Dockers

817
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: have that nice buy this year though, don't they. So

818
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: you know, it's cans all good with all the other

819
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: forwards we've got, But as you said, if there's some

820
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 3: issues in the preseason and we don't get all these

821
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: guys that we're just penciling in, he's one potentially we

822
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: could fall back on as well.

823
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very up and down. We know in his

824
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: supercoat scoring.

825
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: I'd need to see, you know, some consistency in his

826
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: game at the price you probably can't wait.

827
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: So I think it'll be a no.

828
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: From me again, depending on what happens with the rest

829
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: of the options over summer. But just can't trust him

830
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: with his consistency in supercoats scoring just yet, even at

831
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: the price.

832
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: What about these two gems.

833
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: I'll only mention another for because he's around the same bracket,

834
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: Elijah Sartus at one hundred and ninety one point two

835
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: K and just above him Will Brodie one ninety one

836
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: eight K.

837
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: Talking about talking about big calls that I've made that

838
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: have come correct, talking about big time no one wanted

839
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: to listen to me a couple of years ago. Broke

840
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: out big time, almost the top scoring forward in twenty

841
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: twenty three, off the Raider, off the Cliff's understatement last year.

842
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: But he's a hard one. What I don't get is

843
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: his strengths are obvious. He showed that in twenty twenty three.

844
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: His weaknesses have always been obvious too. They're not new.

845
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: Hoping him work back in I think I know I'm

846
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: not over there, but I still think he benefits. Free

847
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Oh's midfield a little bit helps him out. They've got

848
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: enough runners there, got enough speed on the outside when

849
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: everyone's up and going. I'd hope to see Will Brady

850
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: in there at some point, and that's a bargain, but

851
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to see. It's hard to say he'd be

852
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: in the twenty two or twenty three for Justin long mule.

853
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: But if he is, if something happens over the preseason

854
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: and one of their main guys, bang.

855
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: Now we started speaking about the most relevant fantasy names.

856
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: We finish with Will Brody. I think that's a nice

857
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: point to wrap it up with the record.

858
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Good way to wrap up the first unofficial or official

859
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: episode of the Lair for twenty twenty five the pre

860
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: season to finish on the lair Zone, Will Brady Team

861
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Picker December eighteen, Wednesday, December eighteen, the real.

862
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: Date of Christmas.

863
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and get across this podcast, the official Super

864
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: Coach AFL podcast for all the latest news happens.

865
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: Start sharing your teams as well. Pick them, share them around,

866
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: show your friends, show us. We'll talk about them on

867
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: the show all summer. It won't be long and action

868
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: the footy, they'll be. The footy be back soon. We

869
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: know Christmas, New Year's the pre season games will start.

870
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: Will straight back into it. So show us your teams.

871
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: Get on there and the Team Picker and let's get

872
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: twenty five rollin goss he let's go