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Speaker 1: A team. Welcome to another installing the You Project. Craig

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Speaker 1: Anthony Harper just chiming in. I know you thought it

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Speaker 1: might be someone different today, but it's not fucking me.

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Speaker 1: So here we are. I hope you're having a good day.

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Speaker 1: Things are rolling at Bloody Camp, typ Camp, the You

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Speaker 1: Project lots on. We've started a thing called the seven

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Speaker 1: Day Kickstart. Depending on when you listen to this, of

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Speaker 1: course a million people have dived in. We're having fun,

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Speaker 1: we're enjoying the frivolities, and it's great to see people

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Speaker 1: getting a little bit excited about doing something positive and

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Speaker 1: constructive and proactive to change something about their life or

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Speaker 1: their habits, or the thinking or their behavior. Which is

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Speaker 1: what we're about now today. Is I have a typ

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Speaker 1: debutante and also a podcast debutante. He's a podcast vergin,

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Speaker 1: So be really gentle with him. His name's Toby Quinn.

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Speaker 1: He and I go way back. His official name he's

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Speaker 1: grown up, big boy, big pants. Name is to buy

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Speaker 1: but fuck that. I don't other people do. How many

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Speaker 1: people call you Tobias and how many people you call

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Speaker 1: people call you Toby?

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Speaker 2: What's the split? It'd be close to fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: Who calls you Tobias like I feel like people who

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Speaker 1: are angry at you.

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Speaker 3: No, it's actually the other way, the Tobias Quinn. You know,

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Speaker 3: when you walk into a room, ah, Tobias Quinn and

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Speaker 3: when you sit down and have a chat.

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Speaker 2: With the friends and buddies.

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Speaker 1: So it's quite posh, isn't it, Like you don't it's

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Speaker 1: how many Tobiases have you met? Ah?

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Speaker 2: Two two? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Other than myself, it's not nearly as fancy as Craig,

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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 2: Well, Craigo if you had the ol on the end's

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Speaker 2: pretty exciting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Craigo. See, people can tell, like the people who

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Speaker 1: yeah jumbo fatty rps. People who call me Craigo have

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Speaker 1: known me for a long time. So there's about probably

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Speaker 1: fifty people in the world who call me that, which

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Speaker 1: is I guess that's a lot, but that's generally family friends,

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Speaker 1: or people that family and friends, and or people that

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Speaker 1: I've just known for a really long time. Now let's

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Speaker 1: give everyone the background. So when give or take, when

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Speaker 1: did you and I meet? What year do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: That was nineteen ninety nine, so that's twenty six years ago,

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Speaker 3: so you must have only been about seven.

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Speaker 2: I think it was just turning.

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Speaker 3: I think it was around my eighth birthday.

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Speaker 1: And so to give everyone perspective, so Toby worked for

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Speaker 1: me with me at one of my centers. Over the years,

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Speaker 1: I had four gyms, and Toby worked at my corefield

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Speaker 1: gym here in the thriving metropolis of Melbourne. So how

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Speaker 1: old were you really when you started working with me?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm fifty now, so I'll let you do the math.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four, so twenty six years ago. So give will

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Speaker 1: take you at twenty four and what how do we

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Speaker 1: end up? I don't even know. I should know more

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Speaker 1: than this, but I did like five hundred trainers. How

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Speaker 1: did we end up working together? How did you end

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Speaker 1: up coming to Harper's?

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Speaker 2: I was what was I doing? So I had to

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Speaker 2: do my SERTs. Wanted to be a PT.

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Speaker 3: I did a certificate in or a diploma of fitness,

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Speaker 3: and then did a bit of travel and I came

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Speaker 3: back and I was like, I think I want to

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Speaker 3: get into that.

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Speaker 2: Moved to Melbourne, found.

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Speaker 3: High energy network, yes with Rusty, Tara, yourself and Jack

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Speaker 3: and everybody. Yeah, and loved it. Love listening to you.

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Speaker 3: Learnt a lot that was excited to get into the

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Speaker 3: PT world and interviewed with you finally in ninety nine,

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Speaker 3: which didn't go well.

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Speaker 1: So I interviewed you for your position, did I?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? In that was the one on the highway, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the big one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an Apan Highway, so brighton. Yeah, how did I

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Speaker 1: remember this? I may have interviewed a few people. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: throw me under the bus. What did I do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was a little bit trendier than Craig Harper is

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Speaker 3: now and I was wearing.

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Speaker 2: Like camo shorts and a T shirt.

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Speaker 3: And you were like this guy turning up to an interview.

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Speaker 2: Dress like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he was very professional, but luckily won

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was pretty cool but funny story.

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Speaker 1: Well you were, well you're still a handsome bugger, but

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Speaker 1: you you were. I think when back in the day

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Speaker 1: and I feel like you were trying to figure shit

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Speaker 1: out back in those days, like because you had a

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Speaker 1: few balls in the air you were doing or you

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Speaker 1: had done a fair bit of security, getting punched in

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Speaker 1: the face and all those things. Not much dollars an hour,

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Speaker 1: just like your boss for a period of time and

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Speaker 1: then but some modeling and some PT what was the

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Speaker 1: how did you end up in the middle of all

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Speaker 3: So when I left school, obviously not real bright as

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Speaker 3: we know, we can say that now, not real bright,

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Speaker 3: didn't know what I wanted to do, and some security

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Speaker 2: So I was working in the fitness industry.

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Speaker 3: Was a PT in Canberra back in the day, and

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Speaker 3: started doing security in the casino industry.

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Speaker 1: That like, what was that? Like?

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Speaker 2: It was for me?

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Speaker 3: It was a really cool experience, very professional, well run

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Speaker 3: obviously you know they were the casinos Austria, so they

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Speaker 3: were very well run, a lot of training. But I

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Speaker 3: was lucky you to get off at a position up

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Speaker 3: casino when it opened in ninety five.

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Speaker 1: Hey, and what year were you born?

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Speaker 2: I was born in seventy four.

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Speaker 1: So twenty one year head of security for a casine.

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Speaker 3: Know, I was a supervisor. I wasn't the head of security,

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Speaker 3: one of the supervisors. And that was a really cool experience.

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Speaker 3: Big team, well trained, Our management was x sas so

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Speaker 3: world at that stage, which was really cool, but I

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Speaker 3: got bored, didn't enjoy what I was doing, needed more.

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Speaker 3: So a summer camp job came up and I thought

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Speaker 1: What before we go into that? What? What do you

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Speaker 1: when you're doing security in a casino? What I mean?

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Speaker 1: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What are you looking for? Are you looking for people

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Speaker 1: who are cheating? Are you or are you just throwing

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Speaker 2: Like? What?

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Speaker 1: What are your primary roles?

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Speaker 2: So all of that, all of the above.

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Speaker 3: But if you're you could work in the surveillance area

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Speaker 3: of the casino where you're watching gaming and making sure

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Speaker 3: people are behaving and not stealing, watching the dodgies, or

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Speaker 3: different things. Letting intoxicated patrons gamble is a big no no.

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Speaker 3: So I think I still have the record for the

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Speaker 3: most removals of people out of cans casino, which, for

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Speaker 3: those that don't know, Queenslanders seem to be able to

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Speaker 3: or think they can drink a lot more than anybody

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Speaker 3: else and don't think they're intoxicated, so it's quite a challenge.

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Speaker 3: To try and tell them that they are intoxicated and

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Speaker 2: So that caused a little bit of trouble often.

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Speaker 1: And how long did it take you to get efficient, competent,

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Speaker 1: skilled at getting drunk? Potentially I guess every now and

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Speaker 1: then someone who is a little bit angry or potentially

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Speaker 1: Because obviously you don't want to be rolling around the

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Speaker 1: it can be a pretty shitty job.

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Speaker 3: So in that environment, it's way different to door work.

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Speaker 3: So doing door work in a nightclub or a bar

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Speaker 3: is completely different to the way you treat patrons in

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Speaker 3: normally try and approach people three at a time with distance.

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Speaker 2: To start with.

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Speaker 3: If it heats up, we have little hand gestures or

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Speaker 3: signals where we'd bring the team in and then we'd

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Speaker 3: tighten up on them. We'd restrain them before we do

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Speaker 3: anything if it got violent. But most of the time

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Speaker 3: it'd be using your words well to try and try

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Speaker 3: as I said, the Queenslanders do like to drink a

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Speaker 2: From my experience, where did you grow up, camera boy?

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Speaker 1: And what was that? Like?

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Speaker 2: How far back do you want to go?

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Speaker 1: As far as you? I mean, I mean today is

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Speaker 1: really just I don't know You've got There's a few

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Speaker 1: know you have an interesting backstory, and I just think, like,

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Speaker 1: I mean this with full respect, because you're doing some

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Speaker 1: really cool things and you're building an amazing thing, which

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about later. But I like talking to people

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Speaker 1: just because you had from as from what I can remember,

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Speaker 1: you didn't have the best childhood of all time.

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Speaker 2: No, it was a pretty rough upbringing.

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Speaker 3: And more so, looking back on it now, I'm actually

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Speaker 3: But like my dad left when I was three, single

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Speaker 3: grew up very quickly, which.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't sound so bad.

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Speaker 3: But then when you're in the school system and teachers

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Speaker 3: when you've had to be an adult, that level of disrespect,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't really handle very well and didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't enjoy it. But you were a child though

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was, so they weren't really disrespect Well, it's that,

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Speaker 1: but I know what you mean, because you'd been used

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Speaker 1: to having to do adult things. Yeah, now you go

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Speaker 1: to school and it's a different energy.

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Speaker 2: It is completely different energy.

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Speaker 3: So even like I remember, you know, I used to

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Speaker 3: get in trouble all the time, but it wasn't I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it was a righteous thing or you know,

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Speaker 3: how dere you talk to me like that, But I've

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Speaker 3: spent how old.

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Speaker 1: Were you when you started pushing back?

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Speaker 2: Young? Like I'm talking ten eleven, twelve?

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Speaker 3: You know, I had to work it, you know, twelve

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Speaker 3: years old I'm watching motorbikes and stuff like that to

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Speaker 3: give money to my mother. So weak as sur vive, right, So,

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Speaker 3: you know, not your general childhood. But yeah, I spend

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Speaker 3: the point where I remember drawing the corridor three dimensional

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well first night I did security, I got

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Speaker 1: This is I didn't create this. Remember it in the

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Speaker 2: Now you got like, oh my god, a funny story

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Speaker 3: And back to this biking troupe that kept continuing on

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Speaker 1: And there was this with burnouts and quarter miles and

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Speaker 3: And there was a group of girls that would take

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Speaker 3: Well, this is where it got interesting. It got to

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Speaker 3: hassle at the other club got involved in this as well,

442
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 3: and it was quite funny. So when you talk about

443
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: pushing them off and pushing them out and trying.

444
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: To keep them out of the bus, and was what was.

445
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: The Was this a sanctioned thing? Girls in a bus

446
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: driving around? Was this part of the event?

447
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: Yes? So going from location age location, can.

448
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: I just tell you that three quarters of my audience

449
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: are women, And I'm just sell you. I don't know

450
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: if we're going very well right now.

451
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 2: Welcome to the eighties.

452
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: The eighties was crazy? Eighties The eighties wasn't crazy? Hey,

453
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: So you ended up in Japan working at was it

454
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: Movie World or Warner Bro?

455
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: What was it Universal Studios? And what did you do there?

456
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 2: I was the sheriff in a Wild West stunt show.

457
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: You were, so, would you call yourself a stuntman or

458
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: an actor or both?

459
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 3: Or I would not call myself a stunt man, probably

460
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 3: not even an actor. But I landed a gig that

461
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: required me to do both, and that went from the

462
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: modeling thing, which I wouldn't really even call myself a model,

463
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: but I was lucky enough to score that gig in Japan,

464
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 3: and it was a life changing experience for me, that's

465
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: for sure.

466
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Speaker 1: How long were you in Japan?

467
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Speaker 2: So I did a total of six years?

468
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: And what how did so when you go? I was

469
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: what did you say, a sheriff in a show? A

470
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: stage show?

471
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

472
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: How many people would watch that show on average?

473
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: So we had a capacity of around two and a

474
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: half thousand per show on a full day.

475
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: And how many shows a day on the average?

476
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: That vary depending on the season.

477
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: So peak season we do four to seven shows a

478
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: day per sheriff, per team, hang on four.

479
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: To seven shows? How many How long is a show?

480
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: Twenty five to twenty seven?

481
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: Minutes I'm doing the maths. That's a lot of time

482
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: on stage performing back to back to back to back.

483
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that'd be like a Golden Week, which is

484
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: you know, one of the Japanese holidays that it's at capacity.

485
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: You know, you're getting two and a half thousand people

486
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 3: yelling and screaming and having a good old time, and

487
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 3: it was up to me to entertain them, believe it

488
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: or not.

489
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Speaker 1: And were you either? Do I remember you telling me

490
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Speaker 1: you were like the lead character in that show or

491
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: one of them?

492
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was.

493
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: I was the lead male lead in that show. So

494
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: it was myself in a Japanese counterpart that opened the show.

495
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: I was meant to be the American over there, you know,

496
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: trying to catch these baddies, show them how it's done,

497
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: clean up the town.

498
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: And where did you live? Like, what what do they

499
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: have like special quarters for all you foreigners?

500
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

501
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: So we all we had a purpose built apartment block

502
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: which was around ten minutes if you timed it right

503
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: to work, so very close. One hundred and eighty of

504
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 3: us living in this apartment block, all mostly good looking, fit, healthy.

505
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: Performers.

506
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: So it was kind of Uni style, you know, a

507
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: lot of barbecues, a lot of parties, a lot of fun.

508
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: Wow, and I imagine no sex going on at all,

509
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: would have just been all very but he's just friendship.

510
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of holding hands, that's all

511
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: I know. It was funny. A couple of the girls

512
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: and I used to stand up on the tenth floor

513
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: and it was a U shaped building that had open

514
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: balconies and we would just watch people run from room

515
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: to room, you know, just go oh my god, and

516
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: you'd count up what floor, across what room and you're like,

517
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: oh my god, she's with him and that. So it

518
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: was quite an entertaining kind of place, that's for sure.

519
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: What was the good and bad to come out of that?

520
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Like when you're doing six years in Japan and you're

521
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: in a stage show, I assume you're making good dough.

522
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, money was good and he was good.

523
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the bad the only nothing really bad. To

524
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: be honest, it was six years, the best six years

525
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: of my life to date. Good money, a lot of

526
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 3: good people, and always something to do. So you know,

527
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: this was before social media. We'd have a whiteboard down

528
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: stairs outside the lift. You could ride on that whiteboard.

529
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: Dinner tonight, garlic restaurant seven pm, and you could end

530
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: up with thirty people going to dinner, you.

531
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: Know, so very sociable. You know. Summer was great. We'd

532
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: have a blackpool out the back.

533
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: I'd clean that most mornings, fill it up, and then

534
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: i'd go train, come back and there'd be people in it,

535
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: and barbecue be dragged out, and people would hang around

536
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: all day, come and go. Some would go off to work,

537
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: some would go travel. You'd I'm going to a movie.

538
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: You'd end up, you know, a few of you'd wander off,

539
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: go to a movie, stuff like that. So it was

540
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: just what you'd imagine life at university.

541
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: You know.

542
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: I obviously never went to university, but I'd imagine that

543
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: social scene being pretty pretty cool.

544
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And what about what about you? I don't

545
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: know what doors you want to or don't want to open,

546
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: But what about family? You said your dad left at three.

547
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: I should know this, but Dad's not live now.

548
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: Dad's around, actually is in Brisbane, I think from what

549
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: I understand, but I haven't spoken to him for a

550
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: very long time. Mother is in Naruma, New South Wales,

551
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: South Coast, and my sister is in Melbourne.

552
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: So are you close to any of them. Not so close,

553
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: not as close as I would like to be.

554
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: But that's circumstantial, right, So yeah, yeah.

555
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about crunk, which we'll explain

556
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: what that is in a minute. But so there's been

557
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: this consistent theme through your work life anyway, which is

558
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: on and off from a lot of your adult life.

559
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: You've been a trainer among other things. Like you work

560
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: for me as a trainer for a while, and you've

561
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: worked in different places and you're still doing that. You're fifty, right,

562
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Well you're still and you work in the fancist like

563
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: literally the fancist Jim in Australia, what does that called that?

564
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Join again?

565
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: Total Fusion Platinum And that's in Brisbane, Yeah, Brisbane Newstead

566
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: in Brisbane, so that they call it the bubble, the

567
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: new Stead Bubble.

568
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: It's where all the cool kids hang out.

569
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: How much does that joint cost a year to join?

570
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: Give give or take minimum? Sixty?

571
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: I think the highest you can pay us a lot

572
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: so you can have sixty sixty dollars a week.

573
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Wow, So the rock bottom is three grand a year.

574
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

575
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: What's the burger with the lot?

576
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

577
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: What the burger with a lot is it's like it's

578
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: up there. So that's medical conciers. So we've got doctors,

579
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: we've got physios, we've got the whole boot kerboodle.

580
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: Is it big?

581
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: Yes, huge, over four stories. I think it's the biggest

582
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: gym in the Southern hemisphere.

583
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: And is there more of them or is it a

584
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: one off?

585
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: There's more there's This is the only platinum, but the

586
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: other gyms are really nice as well, so they've done

587
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: a very good job.

588
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about pteing these days? What

589
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: have you noticed about I don't know, the industry Like

590
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: you were in at the ground floor with me. You

591
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: were back in the days when every sect, probably I

592
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: was going to say every second person it was more

593
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: like nine out of ten people would say, what's a

594
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: personal trainer? What's personal training? You were a trainer back

595
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: in those days. Has it evolved for better or worse

596
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: or a bit of both?

597
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: I think as far as I think PT is interesting now,

598
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: like people they kind of bag it a little bit.

599
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: You know, I can do it.

600
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: They've all got the apps and stuff, But you know,

601
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: the people I'm training some fascinating people at the moment,

602
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: which I really enjoy, but the offering is a lot

603
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: different to what it was back then as well, Like

604
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: you know, what we bring to the tables a lot,

605
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: you know, the nutrition side, we're going down the wellness,

606
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: life and longevity type path where you know, it was

607
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: a thing back in the day, but it wasn't a

608
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: thingingevity wasn't really a thing.

609
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: You know.

610
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: We've got cold plunges, we've got infred saunas, we've got

611
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: all of that, you know, and we look at recovery

612
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: more than you probably would have back in the day

613
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: as being a lot more important, you know.

614
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: And then the mental health side of things.

615
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: I thinks a lot you know, talked about a lot

616
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: more now, which is great too.

617
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I think, what about the trainers on the floor, do

618
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: you think that I'm I'm not like, I still think

619
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: they're like even when I was in my bloody heyday,

620
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: they were good trainers and bad trainers. I think it's

621
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: the same now, right.

622
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have krema the crop kind of in our gym.

623
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: Like they're very you know, exercise scientists. They've studied a lot,

624
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: they know a lot that you know, that sort of stuff.

625
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: But I think PT in general isn't as good like

626
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: that it's a lot more online, less, less face to

627
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: face and I think there's one of the most important

628
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: things I believe in PT is the face to face

629
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: communication and connection, right, and when you know you're missing

630
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: that in class, Like I remember back in the day

631
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: when you were taking classes and.

632
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: Stuff and teaching teaching us.

633
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: I did my Diploma of Fitness, which was I think

634
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: a six month course back in the day, and now

635
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: like I would have learned more, you know, being the

636
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: face to face with you than I did that. And

637
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: now it's even worse with less face to face stuff,

638
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: not as much hands on, so you and you're losing

639
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: that connection, right, which I think is probably eighty percent

640
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: of personal training is that connection piece.

641
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it's a really interesting development in

642
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: education across the board. One of my friends is doing

643
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: a master's degree in nutrition and doing it entirely online.

644
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: A master's degree, that's one under a PhD, right, that's one. Yeah,

645
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: and in the you know, they already have an undergrad.

646
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: You need an undergrad a bachelor of something to do

647
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: your postgrad, which is honors or you know, masters or PhD.

648
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: But and it's so it's two years full time and

649
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: they have to in two years, they have to spend

650
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: four weeks at UNI out like and then you know,

651
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: and that's under sufferance. But and I'm not saying that

652
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: they're not learning, but I'm with you. I think, you know,

653
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I think definitely online learning has a place, but being

654
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: in a being an a lecture theater or a classroom

655
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: with somebody who knows what they're teaching and talking about

656
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: somebody who's got hands on in real world experience, somebody

657
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 1: who's you know, like in the example of a personal trainer.

658
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Like when you guys, when I was teaching you, you

659
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: were literally being taught by the guy with the most

660
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: experienced in Australia in personal training, in real time, face

661
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: to face, you know. And it's so that's not and

662
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: of course you know, I mean that's sound arrogant, but

663
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: that's not a bad model where but there are so

664
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: many people now teaching in various courses that don't actually

665
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: even do the thing. It is that they're teaching, like

666
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: people in personal training courses who've never been personal trainers.

667
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's definitely something in that, like we're losing

668
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: more and more of that face to face connection, which

669
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll talk about in a little bit, But

670
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: as far as PT goes, you want to see people move, right, Like,

671
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: that's what you're doing. And you look at exercise science

672
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: and fears and you're watching people move.

673
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: That's what your job is. And if you're doing that.

674
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: Online, very hard to kind of see, you know, the

675
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: grimace in the face if they're trying to get out

676
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: of a deep squad or you know whatever that is

677
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: that you can go, Okay, there's a weakness there, there's

678
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: you know, And I think that's super important when you

679
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: are a personal trainer.

680
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: Too and have that connection with someone.

681
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Like I know, it's not a great model,

682
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: and being fifty a personal trainer is probably not where

683
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: I wanted to be in life.

684
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 2: But the face to face stuff is what it gets

685
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: me excited.

686
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But I also think, like I still train

687
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: a few people in the gym, friends, a few projects.

688
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean that lovingly. I'm sixty one. I love training them.

689
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: I love it. Like for me, it's like I don't

690
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: want to do fifty hours of it, but to train

691
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: a few friends and a few people who've got physical

692
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: challenges and handicaps and people who genuinely need what it

693
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: is that I can give. I think it's great, you know,

694
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: So I think that it's funny how you like growing up,

695
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: you think or you have an idea of where you're

696
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: going to be at a certain time. You know, when

697
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm forty, I'm going to be doing this or doing that,

698
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: or when I'm fifty, are going to be here or there,

699
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: and when I'm sick, you know. And it's like, rarely

700
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: do people actually end up in the space they thought

701
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: they would be the way they thought they would land there.

702
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yes, but you've been working on something else.

703
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: So you've been developing a thing for a few years,

704
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: and I've been watching, I've been watching from behind the curtain,

705
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: and it's starting to get some momentum. So tell us

706
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: about Crunk.

707
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: So.

708
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: Crunk is a social network to get people off social

709
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: networks and connecting in real life, all based around activities

710
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: and interest, but big picture, to help fight loneliness through

711
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: human connection. And we are we're starting to get some momentum.

712
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: Now.

713
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: I think we're a little bit before our time, especially

714
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: when you look at what's happening in the social media space. Yeah,

715
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: you know, the validation, the likes and comments, I've got

716
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: so many friends, but are they really your friend?

717
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: And I just love I love.

718
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: This concept of getting people off off their screens and

719
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: off swiping and off the validation and actually getting out

720
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: and connecting and doing something they enjoy doing that they

721
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: might have thought that they could do or they were

722
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: interested in doing and kind of went, well, I don't

723
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: know how to go about it. So we've created a

724
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: platform that you can use our filters to find people,

725
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: relocate people that share.

726
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: A similar same interest as you.

727
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: For example. So give me a practical example. All right,

728
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing a gig in Sydney. I'm there for two days,

729
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: and how would I how might I use it?

730
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: So you could get on crunk filter out where you're

731
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: going in Sydney. Then that will show people in that

732
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 3: area or gyms or activities that are happening in that area,

733
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: and you can join, participate or connect with people to

734
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: do said activity. So you wanted to go for a

735
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: run because I know you love running such a runner,

736
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: you'd be able to find other runners or run clubs

737
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 3: around you that are providing that service. Find a gym

738
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: around the corner from the hotel you're at.

739
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: That sort of.

740
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: Could I say Hey, I'm in Sydney and it's leg day.

741
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: I want someone to train with me because I need

742
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: a spotter. Anyone could you do that?

743
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

744
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Wow?

745
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

746
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: So how do how do you make money from that?

747
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: So we've got a few ways, but it will be

748
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: the big one is going to be specific advertising to

749
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: people's needs. So what most other platforms do is they

750
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: spray and hope they get what they're looking for. So,

751
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: for instance, you like Jim, I'm friends with you. They

752
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: think that I like Jim, so they'll promote to me.

753
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: And we have specific people join. They tell us what

754
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: they're into, they have the location, we know how often

755
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: they're you know, out and about, so we can say, okay,

756
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: here's your perfect person to market to what you know,

757
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: whether that's a yoga person.

758
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: Or a runner or a hiker or whatever that looks like.

759
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: And what about what about people learning how to like?

760
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: What's the best way for me to get my head

761
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: around it is to jump on the website and fuck

762
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: around with it. I haven't even looked at it. I

763
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: know it's I know that's bad.

764
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: So it is crunk dot Com. Our sloganies meet you people,

765
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: do fun shit.

766
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: Download the app, and jump on and start to play

767
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: around with it, same as you would with any other

768
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: social platform.

769
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: But it doesn't it doesn't cost anything.

770
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: Right, not free to use.

771
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah awesome, and hopefully we can replace the big dogs

772
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 3: and become the new platform that connects active, like minded people.

773
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: And am I allowed to say we can take this

774
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: bit out if you want me to take it out,

775
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: but didn't didn't A reasonably big organization. By that, I

776
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: mean a really big organization have a look at it, went,

777
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: that's great, we want to partner with you or buy

778
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: you out and turn it into a dating app.

779
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we were we There was a company

780
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 3: called and I think I could say this company without

781
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: any hesitation. It's over arching company was called Magic Labs,

782
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: and I don't think they're around anymore, so that's why

783
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 3: I think I can say it. They had one hundred

784
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: million dollars to invest in startups that connect people. So

785
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: being the tenacious, you know, entrepreneur founder of this cool idea,

786
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to reach out to them, and

787
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: I ended up having three hour long conversations with them,

788
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: which were very interesting. They loved the concept, loved the idea,

789
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 3: give us a business plan, did that, what's your marketing

790
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: plan and how much is it going to cost to

791
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: get to a million users? So we did that, and

792
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: then they offered a ridiculous sum to.

793
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: Partner with us.

794
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: And then the last five minutes of the conversation they said,

795
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 3: all right, we're going to turn it into a dating app.

796
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, so the number. I don't want

797
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: the number, but it was it in the millions, lots

798
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: of millions. Yet they offered you lots of millions, Toby, Yeah, Toby,

799
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: they offered you lots of millions. Yeah, wow.

800
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: And if I probably turn it into a dating app,

801
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: I'd be doing all right now. But I think.

802
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 3: That that is not the purpose behind what we're doing.

803
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: I want, you know, Craig Harper to be on there

804
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: and it not be a problem. I want, you know,

805
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: the wife, the husband can use it for, you know,

806
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: to connect with people, to go play tennis, go for

807
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: a height, go for a run. I wanted to remove

808
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: the awkwardness of a guy messaging a guy and saying,

809
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: hey mate, do you want to go for a run?

810
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: You want to go for a ride? I see you

811
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: into fishing. I'm in town.

812
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: Do you mind if you know that sort of thing.

813
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: And when they message him, it actually is a run

814
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: they want to go for.

815
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not Hey, hi, no stop it, stop it.

816
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: You're going to get both of us central. Well, mate,

817
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: good on you for having that internal sat nab and

818
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: for paying attention and for you know, being authentic and

819
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: being true to your values, because I think I'm pretty

820
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: value driven, but I don't know to solid it when

821
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: let's make a dating app. Yeah, I think you're a

822
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: better human than me.

823
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people would think I'm an

824
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: absolute idiot for choosing the ladder, but I believe in

825
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: the purpose enough for that not to you know, even

826
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: be a thought.

827
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: Do you feel like I've always felt and less these

828
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: days but it's still there, you know, like an impostor

829
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: or a fraud. Like do you ever go, I'm not

830
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: a fucking business man. What am I doing? I'm going

831
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: to go work on the door at the fucking you know,

832
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: at some pobor I'm just going to go punch bugs

833
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: in the face, That's my natural Habitat what am I

834
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: doing over here?

835
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: Every day? Actually every day across them?

836
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: Like?

837
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: What am I doing?

838
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: And the thing that gets me out of that? And

839
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: I say this to myself every day as well, and

840
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: I write this down in my journal and.

841
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: I do that stuff. But I'm exactly where I meant

842
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: to be all of the time.

843
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: You know, the path of the journey that we're on

844
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: as there's a reason for it. You know, the reason

845
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: we knock them back was because that's not where we

846
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 3: want to be. You don't want to be that, right?

847
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: So am I a businessman? No? But I have a

848
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: passion and a drive for this thing to be something

849
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: more than me. And we just build the team around that.

850
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: And you know, we're pretty set on our vision, our mission, and.

851
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: I'll stay true to that till the day I die.

852
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: So, and so how do you measure like would success

853
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: be measured in the context of krunk? Would success be measured?

854
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: I guess there'd be a few things. Would the overarching

855
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: one be just users? Like how many people are using it?

856
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Would that be the major KPI?

857
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

858
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then obviously we need to turn into a business. Yeah,

859
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 3: but users is definitely.

860
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: A big one. Yeah.

861
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: So do you start off by going, let well, in

862
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: a way, let's not worry about the money. I mean,

863
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: you've got to worry about the money, but let's get

864
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: people using it. Like, once you get enough people on board,

865
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, this sounds silly, but I guess

866
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: even with like, I definitely didn't start the U Project

867
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: to make money because I'd be the world's worst business man,

868
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: because it's fucking Having a podcast is like punching yourself

869
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: in the face if you want to make lots of dough, right.

870
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: But you know, I think, like I'm able to do

871
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: a few things in that I can do good. I

872
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: can share good information and education with people. I can

873
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: talk to cool people. I can help people that want

874
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: to listen without charging them anything or without Plus I

875
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: can build If the platform builds to the point where

876
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: we have you know, more than Mum and Dad and

877
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: Nannie Marge listening, you know we've got a few listeners,

878
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: we can get some sponsors and you know, So for me,

879
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't start it because I thought I'm going

880
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: to get rich doing this. So I just thought, this

881
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: is a way to connect with lots of people. And

882
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: I'd kind of stepped away from radio and I went,

883
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: I think that podcasts are not forever. But when I started,

884
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: like I started my first one that didn't work about

885
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: eight or nine years ago, and then another one, then

886
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: another one, then about six or seven years ago this one.

887
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like about just building something and then

888
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: if you do it well enough and you're connecting with

889
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: enough enough people, it's probably going to end up paying

890
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: a few bills.

891
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the same for us.

892
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: I believe there's a big business model to be made

893
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: out of what we're doing. Definitely, but you know, I

894
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: could have been a sellout with the offer that we

895
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: had before and taking the money and run. So it's

896
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 3: not about the money for me. It's definitely I want

897
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: it to be a lifestyle thing. But I believe the

898
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: world that we're in now, the lack of connection that

899
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: we're having and the validation through likes and comments, the

900
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: times kind of come where people don't you know that

901
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: they getting tired of that. They're realizing that real connection

902
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: is a thing, and we need that more than ever.

903
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: In community based stuff, you know, like we could have

904
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: We're similar to Instagram in the sense that we could

905
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: have any business on crunk, any community on crunk, and

906
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: people join that community.

907
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: But the powerful part is filtering.

908
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: And being able to find people within that community to

909
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: go and do something different than that community, you know,

910
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: and connect.

911
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: Outside of that. And as far as the business model goes,

912
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: no doubt. We'll get sponsors for events.

913
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 3: And you know, we're doing a Run the World Challenge

914
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: that kicks off in April, which is for anyone. You know,

915
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: you get a team of six, you try and run

916
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: as many climbers as you can, get more points if

917
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: you do runs together. So you know, trying to get

918
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: people off social media and out and active is our

919
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: whole key tell.

920
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: So that starts in April. It's Run the World Challenge,

921
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: is that right?

922
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Powered by Crunk.

923
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: Get involved.

924
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: That's again, join the join the app, and we'll promote

925
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: it when when we're ready to start pushing that and

926
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: get people involved in that.

927
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: Do you You and I are a bit similar in

928
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: that you've never been married. And that was that a

929
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: conscious I know we're taking a left turn here. Was

930
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: that a planned and tension? Was that a conscious path

931
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: or did it just work out like that?

932
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: It's just worked out like that for me, Like I

933
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm not anti marriage.

934
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: I think that's where we differ a little bit.

935
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: I love marriage. I could watch it all day.

936
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it for me?

937
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: I'd love to find my person definitely, or you know,

938
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: someone that I really connect with, but doing you know,

939
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: doing what I'm doing now.

940
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: It's a lot of ours, a lot of time.

941
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: That sort of stuff, And that's probably not so much

942
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: an excuse, but I've just never really found someone that

943
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: I'd want to settle down with for the rest of

944
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: my life.

945
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: But where do people send their applications?

946
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: That would be ww.

947
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: Toby needs a Wife's funny? Yeah, so and so if

948
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: people are in Brisbee Brizzy, can they come and see

949
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: you and do a workout with you? I mean fully

950
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: paid of course, have you got a spot?

951
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: There's a few, not a huge amount, so it definitely

952
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: need to be negotiable, but yeah, happy to happy to

953
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: get people in and give them a workout.

954
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: And if people want to connect with you, find you,

955
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: follow you social media or email or whatever. Don't give

956
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: out anything to private. But how can people connect with

957
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: you if they.

958
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: Want to Instagram Tobias Quinn, crunk app or crunk dot

959
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: com if you wanted to get on the app, I

960
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: think we're crunk connecting the app store, but Tom's queen

961
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 3: or yeah, crunk app on Instagram?

962
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Well for a podcast, Deputy Hunt Slash virgin. You did

963
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: very well.

964
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, appreciate that. Good hosting. Yeah, oh

965
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: you know you've done a few. Yeah, I've done it.

966
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: I actually don't rate myself, but someone who's done as

967
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: much as I have, I should be fucking better. But anyway, okay,

968
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: practicing times and we'll see how we go. And I'm

969
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: up to Queensland soon. So am I allowed to do

970
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: a casual at that fancy fucking gym you workout? Or

971
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: am I too much of a bogan? Am I twenty

972
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: years too old?

973
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: You may not be able to wear camo shorts in

974
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 3: the gym, but other than that, I think.

975
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: You'll be fine.

976
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: I've got some spandex bring that out.

977
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: So and leg warmers. Very good topic up here.

978
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and some rebox. Remember Reeboks made only the pumps.

979
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: They were hot from me with a shit forty fifty

980
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: and sixty year old ladies are like, yeah fuck yeah

981
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: they were.

982
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, the white rebox remember those, the ladies wearing

983
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 3: those in the gym, and before.

984
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: Those for the Bogans, the Bogans from La tro Valley

985
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: added as rome blue stripes. Fuck yeah, come on.

986
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: They were. So this is how bad it is for me.

987
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: PT twenty six ers.

988
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Do you remember that, oh, Katie, Yeah, yeah, that Dunlops. Yeah,

989
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: and they had almost like tire tread, big black, chunky.

990
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: They were like the original KT. Twenty six's were almost

991
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: like the original running shoe that wasn't but they were

992
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: shaped like they were different. They were revolutionary because everything

993
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: back in the day just had almost like a round

994
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: toe like the bloody Dunlop volley or added as rome

995
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: or and then they came out with these things that

996
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: looked like a fucking high performance motorbike almost.

997
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they had the tread. I remember a funny story.

998
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: I got my first pair brand new when I was

999
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: a young lad and I used to sleep with them

1000
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: in my bed because I was so obsessed with these shoes.

1001
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: And they got wet once.

1002
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: We had an open fire growing up, and I had

1003
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: them by the open fire because I was drenched.

1004
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: And in the morning I'm like, Mom, Mom, I do

1005
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: believe in God, and she's like.

1006
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that's a bit weird whine, and I said,

1007
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: I prayed for my shoes to be dry and they are.

1008
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, you didn't have high expectations of God.

1009
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: Sixers, mate, You look after you.

1010
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: We'll talk again.

1011
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: Thank you, take care,