WEBVTT - #2134 The Science Of Motivation - Harps & Tiff

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<v Speaker 1>Great champs and Taps, Well, Taps and Tiff, it's both

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<v Speaker 1>of us. We're sliding in towards Easter chocolate, a bounds,

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<v Speaker 1>hopping bunnies, eggs. TIFFs just raised both her index fingers

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<v Speaker 1>in a kind of celebration chocolat. I reckon, like people

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<v Speaker 1>are chocolate people or they're not. There's not really anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, like I'm not. I mean, wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can eat it, but I don't enjoy it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice, but then I go eyah, I'd rather I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know chicken breast, but I know it just doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, are you generally savory or sweet? Sweet? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet chocolate? Yes? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? What do you reckon? The split is? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>most people either they love like a fucking lasagna or

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<v Speaker 1>a roast chicken with veggies and salt, or spag bowl

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, tie takeaway, like most I think dudes

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<v Speaker 1>are more that and maybe ladies are I mean all

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but like if they had to pick one

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<v Speaker 1>or the other, it might be sweets.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you reckon when it's even when it's savory, it's

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<v Speaker 2>carbs and salt, like carbs and salt versus shot. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>except for harps is really go with chicken bresh right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And have no no fat, the fat fuck that lives

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<v Speaker 1>not that far below the surface, A little one who's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking beating his chest these fists against the fucking chest cavity.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, give me cake, you can't, but he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>more like, gimme lasagna. But I used to inhale pastor

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, which the significant substantiveness of me,

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<v Speaker 1>the totality of me. Yeah, but then then I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tried not to be one hundred kilos and at

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<v Speaker 1>ten and yeah then but over time, yeah, I still

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<v Speaker 1>like if I took a big gobful of lasagna, I

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<v Speaker 1>would laugh it, but then I would feel terrible, not

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally mentally, just physically feel terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not part sea pasta and like even rice

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<v Speaker 2>pasta and rice and like savory carbs, and I reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe it's a learned behavior where I go, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I all my naughty foods are going to be shock

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<v Speaker 2>of that, they're going to be the best, They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be something that makes me like and I will

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<v Speaker 2>forego stuff that I call savory junk and so I

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<v Speaker 2>eat really nutritiously with my real food, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>try and pack everything into just pure bliss, pure bliss

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<v Speaker 2>and east What a great time of.

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<v Speaker 1>Year, huh. I reckon, like on a practical level, Like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone talks about optimal this and optimal that. Yeah cool,

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<v Speaker 1>most people can't do optimal potentially forever, right, I reckon

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<v Speaker 1>really if most people ate eighty percent clean, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in real clean, like healthy, no bullshit, no bad food,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing processed, no no significant sugar or no overload of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, starch, and just really healthy, clean food. But

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<v Speaker 1>twenty I'd rather ten, but maybe fifteen ten percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, eat whatever the fuck you want, but make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that your total junk calories for the week don't

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<v Speaker 1>exceed fifteen percent of your overall calories. You know. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have two thousand calories a day, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's that three hundred. If you had three hundred calories

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<v Speaker 1>a day of something that's not great, that's fifteen percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Seven and a half? Can? Hell? No, yeah, three hundred calories.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck my brain's not working out and had lunch. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>To get through this calculation.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start the show. Again, yeah, I think that's And

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<v Speaker 1>again everyone, this is not advice. I'm not a dietitian,

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<v Speaker 1>but just having worked with literally thousands of people, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's always a big part of it, but nearly everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>A big part of it is food. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>can train great, but if you eat shit, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>be optimal or close to optimal. And yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind the od I've told you recently because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>skinny as fark, I've started having the odd pie and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't be happier like people like you had a pie, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge mcjudge, I did, and I nearly eight three of

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<v Speaker 1>my fingers shoveling that bitch in. It was so good now.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, have I pie like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have six. In the old days, when I was twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have had six or three. Three really, so

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<v Speaker 1>I have one. I feel good. But the funny thing

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<v Speaker 1>is when I ate a bit of junk like that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of high salt, kind of high fat,

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<v Speaker 1>a fair bit of starch because of the pastry, I

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<v Speaker 1>will eat that. If I ate that like I had

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<v Speaker 1>one the other day. I don't know, I told you

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking down Hampton Street and I accidentally ate

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<v Speaker 1>an onion pie and I went into the bakery to

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<v Speaker 1>buy an apple right and they fucking sucked me in.

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<v Speaker 1>So I ended up against my will with an onion pie.

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<v Speaker 2>They always do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know, they're so manipulative, and then poor vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>people like me accidentally eat fucking onion pies. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>ate that at about twelve thirty good, like a little

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what I do because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>people to see me, because you know that would they

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<v Speaker 1>would be bad. So I sneak around off Hampton Street

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<v Speaker 1>up to a side street that's got one of those

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<v Speaker 1>little chairs that they was, you know, bench seats, and

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<v Speaker 1>I sit there and I fucking scout the area like

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<v Speaker 1>an elite military operative. I do a reki, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>no one's within three hundred meters, could only take me

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty meters of walking to eat that.

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<v Speaker 1>I look around, do w reki, and I'm like, and

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<v Speaker 1>go take it out of the brain brown paper bag

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<v Speaker 1>like a fucking widow.

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<v Speaker 2>So good, and then you tell everyone on your podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and now all of Australia knows. Anyway, you didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>it anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would have one a month, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could have something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my one of my mates, who is a

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<v Speaker 2>nutrition it's one of the favorite little I guess catchphrases

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<v Speaker 2>or bits of simple advice that I loved that she

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<v Speaker 2>said was count nutrients, not calories. Did you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>creeping out? But you know how many people have a

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<v Speaker 2>bad meal like binge on sugar or junk and then think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't have I'll restrict now, and it's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>like what does your body And especially as you get older,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more about energy. What does my body need?

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<v Speaker 2>And because I ate a thousand calories of Easter eggs

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<v Speaker 2>at lunchtime, what did they have? And how can I

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<v Speaker 2>get as much of that in still for the day?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I Mean, funny thing

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<v Speaker 1>is when you look at like the pie gets not

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<v Speaker 1>generally the ones I get like once a week or

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<v Speaker 1>fortnite I get. And by the way, everyone's going to

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<v Speaker 1>roll their eyes and go at least if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a pie, have a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the shittest pies in the world. They're fucking

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<v Speaker 1>four and twenty traveler pies from seven to eleven, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like just wrapped in plastic full of salads

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<v Speaker 1>against the pie. So I'm making myself sterile and also

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<v Speaker 1>all the other things that go with that, which is great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need to be virile. I guess cusban in

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<v Speaker 1>the racks ince the late nineties. So that's right. Oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say something else. I can't. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have been real good though, like that promo that

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<v Speaker 1>I showed you a gold Yeah, I might talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that anyway. My long winded point was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the pie that I have has less calories than the

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<v Speaker 1>chicken salad wrap that I buy sometimes. Yeah, so it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's yeah, I'm not on any level pretending this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good idea anyone. I'm not suggesting it's healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be clear. What I'm saying is a little smidge

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<v Speaker 1>of junk every now and then, as long as it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the exception, not the rule. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I'm pretty sure it ain't a big issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I need to announce one thing or Melissa and

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<v Speaker 1>also that Denise Faness will punch me in the face,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is that I'm terrible at promoting my shit.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, doctor Denise and I are doing a program together. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Denise has been on the show many times. She's a geneticist,

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<v Speaker 1>she's an next size physiologist. She's a legit, straight up

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<v Speaker 1>scientist and researcher. She's also a mum and a wife,

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<v Speaker 1>and an entrepreneur and just a really really fucking good teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she has a way of teaching stuff that can

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<v Speaker 1>be complicated and confusing and overwhelming that is relevant to

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, but teach it in a way where like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that makes sense to me, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>do the same, or I try to do the same. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're both doing a program on June thirteen, twelve, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night thirteen is the Saturday. Fourteen is Sunday. We're

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<v Speaker 1>kicking off around six thirty or seven or something on

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday. We're finishing about fourish on the Sunday. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in Malula Bar. It's on the Sunshine Coast. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a super duper cheap bargain, this is not it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not expensive, I don't think, but it's also not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your twenty nine dollars workshop lots and lots

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<v Speaker 1>of content. We've only got fifty spaces. We're just starting small.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to see what happens and if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to find out more about that. By the way, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's at the mantra, like the event, which is great

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<v Speaker 1>because it's fifty meters away from the water. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have breaks over the weekend, of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>in those breaks you can there's there's a fair bit

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<v Speaker 1>of free time. So I'm not a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>programs that start at seven am and finished seven pm

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<v Speaker 1>and you get bombarded with twelve hours of information. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's lots of teaching and lots of information, but not

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where it's cognitive overload anyway. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's at the mantra, Denise and myself, it's all around.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it around, It's around you, optimizing you. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at mind stuff, brain stuff, nutrition stuff. She's also

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<v Speaker 1>a nutritionist course. She is sleep cellular health, DNA, the

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<v Speaker 1>role of DNA slash genetics in the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>live and the way that you know everything from longevity

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<v Speaker 1>to health span to day to day stuff. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about optimization from a mind point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>So not brain as much mind point of view, and

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<v Speaker 1>also from a physiology point of view, how to be strong,

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<v Speaker 1>how to be functional, and how to have a body

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<v Speaker 1>that is younger in inverted commas than your chronology. Ie,

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<v Speaker 1>my body is sixty two years old on a calendar,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the risk of sounding like a dickhead, I

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<v Speaker 1>would suggest somewhere closer to forty years old operationally or functionally,

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<v Speaker 1>or what we call bioage or physiological age or functional age.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not because I'm lucky or I have brilliant genetics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because I do the things that that result. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about all of that and more.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to find out about it, go to

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<v Speaker 1>my website, just the homepage. There's a big banner there.

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<v Speaker 1>Click on that sales pitch over. You're welcome. Take a breath.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that, but a few of you might be interested.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'll give you a discount, I'll give you ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent off if you want to come so fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. I just want to say, for

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's just come back from an event, a multi

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<v Speaker 2>day event lot similar theme to that, but in something

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<v Speaker 2>that interests me, there is something magical about being in

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<v Speaker 2>the room, and I came back from the second of

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<v Speaker 2>those events this year, and when I am gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>that in my budget every year to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>room for multi day events in things that interest me.

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<v Speaker 2>So when people when you're looking at the cost of something,

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<v Speaker 2>it is I just think it's so beneficial because there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's the relationships and the conversations and the energy and

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<v Speaker 2>the be around people like you that make stuff happen

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't happen when you just do a course or

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<v Speaker 2>see a doctor or listen to a podcast. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>my take on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Thanks, I'll slip you some day later. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is I mean, and I don't just mean for what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing, but if you go somewhere like you were

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<v Speaker 1>at a speaker's event, right, and so you've got other

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<v Speaker 1>people who do what you do, want to do what

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<v Speaker 1>you do, and you support each other, you encourage each other,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of there for a similar reason. And generally

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<v Speaker 1>out of our stuff that like we've done everything from

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<v Speaker 1>half day events to four day retreats and everything in between.

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<v Speaker 1>And invariably what happens, especially with things that go over

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<v Speaker 1>a few days, is people make friends and they just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know people who came to something one

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<v Speaker 1>off ten years ago that I ran, and they've still

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<v Speaker 1>got a circle of two or three or four friends

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<v Speaker 1>from that day and they stay in touch, either in

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<v Speaker 1>person or online. And yeah, so it's a range of

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<v Speaker 1>reasons things like this. I mean, you'd be the judge

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<v Speaker 1>of mine. I'm not sure, but the things like this

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<v Speaker 1>can be really in a legitimate, literal way performance enhancing,

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<v Speaker 1>can enhance my performance. Speaking of such things, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to chat to you about something today, and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>going to circle around this everybody and talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>because people get confused and the role that this particular

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<v Speaker 1>topic or this particular construct plays in performance. And as

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<v Speaker 1>we said, human optimization puts simply you getting the most

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<v Speaker 1>out of you, or you moving from where you are

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<v Speaker 1>to where you want to be in terms of your

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<v Speaker 1>goals and intentions and plans, and that is motivation. So

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<v Speaker 1>some of you who followed me forever will be a

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<v Speaker 1>bit sick of this, so maybe turn off, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>call it a refresher. We might open a few new doors.

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<v Speaker 1>But growing up I was always kind of taught and

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<v Speaker 1>told and trained, especially when you're coming to things like

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<v Speaker 1>self improvement, you know personal health, health, you know, self empowerment,

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<v Speaker 1>all that that motivation is key. In other words, motivation

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<v Speaker 1>with the number, because without motivation, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the stuff for blah blah blah. Well I'm challenging

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<v Speaker 1>that because because it's still possible to be proactive and

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<v Speaker 1>productive and effective and to get shit done when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel motivated. So I'm defining for this chat. Motivation

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<v Speaker 1>can be defined in a few ways. In an academic sense, generally,

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<v Speaker 1>motivation is analogous to reason or driver. So what is

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<v Speaker 1>your reason? What is your motivation for joining a Jim Craig,

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<v Speaker 1>What is the reason? What is the driver? So we're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about it in that sense, although this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bumps into it, But we're talking about motivation. When

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<v Speaker 1>the average person is talking about their level of motivation

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<v Speaker 1>or health, motivated or demotivated, they are They're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how they feel. They're talking about their emotions. They're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about their level of focus. They're talking about how excited

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<v Speaker 1>they are in the moment to do the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>they are. I'm pumped, I'm motivated, I'm inspired, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let me start with then I'll shut up TIF.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start with motivation. That the emotional state or

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<v Speaker 1>the psychological state or the heightened state of being motivated

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<v Speaker 1>is great. It's great. And there are some days where

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<v Speaker 1>I feel super motivated and pumped and excited. There are

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<v Speaker 1>some day, you know, like I'm a nine out of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>some days where I'm a seven, and some days when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a two, And that does make me good, bad, weird,

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<v Speaker 1>That makes me human. So the challenge for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who kind of understand what I just said and

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<v Speaker 1>have some familiarity with what I just said, the challenge

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<v Speaker 1>is not for us to be a nine or a

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<v Speaker 1>seven or an eight every day, because we're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be what we're going to be. But it's for

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<v Speaker 1>us to try to be proactive and productive and effective

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<v Speaker 1>and to keep doing what we need to do. In

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<v Speaker 1>Craig terms, when we can't be fucked. Oh I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be fucked today. I didn't sleep well, I'm tired, out

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<v Speaker 1>of blue with my boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be cool. That's all normal. So the problem is that

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<v Speaker 1>people get motivated, then they make decisions and take action

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<v Speaker 1>and start to get results. Because they're motivated, they are

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<v Speaker 1>in the zone. They went away for a weekend, they

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<v Speaker 1>came back pumped up, and from the weekend until the Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>they're in the zone. And then Saturday comes and it's

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<v Speaker 1>someone's birthday, so you go, oh, just whatever, I'll compromise

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<v Speaker 1>a bit today. And then two weeks later they're not motivated.

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<v Speaker 1>That feeling that they had has gone, and the behaviors

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to fall away, the choices are now become irrelevant,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're back to groundhog Day. So the question

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<v Speaker 1>for this podcast is how do I stay productive and

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<v Speaker 1>proactive and effective, in other words, doing the work that

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do when I don't feel inspired or motivated.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're going to unpack that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when I'm working with elite athletes or anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>just wants to get where they want to get with

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<v Speaker 1>their body or their habits or their finances or their

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<v Speaker 1>career or their study or their spiritual journey or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, remember I'm not the answer. I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the coach on the support system. In a way,

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<v Speaker 1>I say to them, I don't care how motivated you are.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're motivated, great, If you're not motivated, also fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I care what you do when you would have typically

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<v Speaker 1>given up in the past, Like in the past. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say we're talking about losing weight. Well, and again, this

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<v Speaker 1>ain't about losing weight. This is about a goal. But

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<v Speaker 1>for so many people when it comes to some change

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<v Speaker 1>they want to make with their body. If I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to someone tomorrow morning at the cafe about this, they

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<v Speaker 1>say to me, how do I this? Or I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that? Or if they're being honest, most people

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<v Speaker 1>have tried to do a version of that ten to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty times already. So they've started and stopped, started and stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>started and stopped. So we need to analyze the stopping bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you keep stopping? Because you've got a gym membership,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a program. You know that eating that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>over there is bad. You know that eating that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>over there is better. It's not a knowledge issue. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have all the knowledge, but you have enough knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>to move the needle and to create to create some

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<v Speaker 1>real change. And I think so we'll launch into that

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<v Speaker 1>from there. So what are your thoughts around this cookie?

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<v Speaker 2>But just been writing down a bunch of words and

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, I'm thinking about the concept of what

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<v Speaker 2>is motivation? What create motivation? The fact that it is

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<v Speaker 2>a response usually usually to an external thing, idea or thought,

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<v Speaker 2>or reaction to something. I wrote down the word momentum,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote down environment, accountability, and process. So just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thinking like what are all of the components that

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<v Speaker 2>come into it, and then how do we create a

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<v Speaker 2>system that allows us to use motivation in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that works for us, Like it's a tool I think

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<v Speaker 2>for me? Yes, those two the concept that I said

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<v Speaker 2>before of going well at least twice a year, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to invest in industry events that are multi day.

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<v Speaker 2>That is purely the number one reason is the level

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<v Speaker 2>of motivation that I have for a quite an extended

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<v Speaker 2>period of time where I take action after that and

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<v Speaker 2>I embed learnings and I build relationships and I uncover

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<v Speaker 2>and discover and create opportunity is huge. So that's me

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<v Speaker 2>going well two times a year. I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a big injection of motivation that's not going to last

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<v Speaker 2>all year. It's going to be a temporary thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>off the back of that, how do I get and

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<v Speaker 2>maintain momentum? What do I put in place to create

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<v Speaker 2>accountability outside of just the response to the motivation, the feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>and what environment do I need to create that makes

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<v Speaker 2>all of that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>So clever I wrote all of that, I wrote system,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm writing that. I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the title for the show. What's your post motivation strategy? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Put up your hands if you think you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be perpetually motivated and or inspired? No one, Right, put

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<v Speaker 1>up your hand. If you'd like to be really consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with the work that you need to do, everyone, right,

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<v Speaker 1>those things don't go together. So it's having that, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm gonna I know I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in motivational troughs and inspirational and focus and attitude and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. And because I'm not weak or broken,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm humans. So what works? And so that which you're suggesting,

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<v Speaker 1>like to build a system slash process, slash program whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>that is essentially a protocol for accountability. What will keep

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<v Speaker 1>me doing the thing that I need to do? What

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<v Speaker 1>will keep me accountable? What will make me It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you and I were talking before we went live. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it because I have to do ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>steps a day. Why do I have to? Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>my rule, right, do I does the world end? If

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, of course not. But I know that when

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<v Speaker 1>for me, when I have clearly defined non negotiables that

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<v Speaker 1>I do not I hope i'll do, or I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do, or I intend to do, but I'll fucking

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<v Speaker 1>do every day. And people will go, oh, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have one day off, there's something wrong with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We did, and I get all of that right. If

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason I literally could not humanly do them,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do them and I wouldn't beat myself up.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I can do it, I'll do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the difference between I want to do something

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to create an outcome. And I am fully,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking totally committed to this behavior. And if it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>or not done matter, if it's easy or not done,

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<v Speaker 1>the matter convenient inconvenient doesn't matter, Fast or slow doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>because so many of us spend our lives almost changing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we wake up and we're fifty or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>we are, and we go, oh, fuck, this was my plan.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you've heard me say, may I see

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<v Speaker 1>the plan? And they've got no fucking plan. They've just

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<v Speaker 1>got an idea. Of how they thought things would work out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be hateful or hurtful. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>be real and practical, right because most of us, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, do not follow through over the long term.

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<v Speaker 1>We make a decision, we take action, then we stop.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why gyms can over sell memberships because they know

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<v Speaker 1>they can have a capacity for maybe what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if people training regularly two hundred members, three hundred members,

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<v Speaker 1>they can sell fifteen hundred memberships because they know most

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<v Speaker 1>people don't go after about four to six weeks. Some do,

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<v Speaker 1>like you and I will wear that shit out right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're terrible fucking members because we get every ounce out

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<v Speaker 1>of our membership, right out of our huge two dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a day that we pay right or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know, there are other people who have

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<v Speaker 1>joined or started or done whatever this program or that gym,

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<v Speaker 1>or who joined that group and then unjoined that group

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<v Speaker 1>and then made this commitment, then unmade the commitment. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think we have to be really practical about this.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the truth is that I need to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out a way where in the middle of discomfort or

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<v Speaker 1>pain or inconvenience or shit, shit, thinking I am the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I am the girl, I'm the mom, the dad, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking grandma, the granddad, whatever. That just has created

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<v Speaker 1>a system or whatever we want to call it, that

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<v Speaker 1>works for me. And you said something before, something along

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<v Speaker 1>the lines of finding out what works for us, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yes, yes, that is the point, finding out

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<v Speaker 1>what works for you, rather than old mates saying you

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<v Speaker 1>should do this, you should do that. Here are eight

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<v Speaker 1>exercises everyone should do. If anyone says anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that is bullshit, because everyone doesn't have the same body,

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<v Speaker 1>the same genetics, the same potential, the same time, the

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<v Speaker 1>same goals, the same injuries, the same medical conditions. To

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that one hundred different people need the same program

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<v Speaker 1>is a display of ignorance. And even when someone says

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<v Speaker 1>to me, what should I do? I will go I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. And the reason I don't know is because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about you. I need to know

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<v Speaker 1>about you. And I've prescribed probably well definitely as much

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<v Speaker 1>exercise as anyone in Australia, written programs, trained athletes, all

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<v Speaker 1>the shit that I've done, and I was at the

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<v Speaker 1>cold face of that four forty years now. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm the best. It just means I've done it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but there ain't many more people with more

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<v Speaker 1>experience than me. And even with that, I just go,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I need to test you, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. I need to find out about

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<v Speaker 1>your training background. I need to find out how you eat,

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<v Speaker 1>why you eat, the way you eat. I want to

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>learn a little bit about your genetic capacity. But as

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>much info as I can get. And then when I

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>get all that info, then I make a pretty informed

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>guess and I write a program, and then I give

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>them the program and go, let's start here based on

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>what I know, this is pretty suitable for you, But

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>let's see what your body tells us. Right. So in

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this whole journey of changing stuff, it might be building

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a business, it might be It's like I know, with you, Tiff,

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you've got the attention span of a dog with three dicks.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>So me saying, here's an academic journal. I want you

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>to read this academic journal this morning, do not use

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.479
<v Speaker 1>chat GPT, And then I want you to write a

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of a five hundred word overview of what the

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>papers about. Now I would never do that because one,

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>you're not suited to that one. You're not an academic,

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you're dumb. You're definitely intelligent, right, But also,

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that's not a good way for you to learn. That's

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>not a good way for you to absorb and remember information.

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>That's TIFF's worst learning model. So I know you, so

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I know you're an experiential learner. I know I can

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>take you in the gym and go, here's how you

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>do a really good deadlift, and you go, you do it,

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and you do it straight up because you're good at

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 1>replicating things physically. And then I'll make a few tweaks.

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:14.959
<v Speaker 1>I'll go try that, and you do that. I'll go

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>one more tweak, you do that, and then in about

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>eight minutes, with no theory, just practicality, you've learned how

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>to do a deadlift, which will sometimes take people six

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>months to learn. Right, So it's what's my learning style?

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Like what's the best food for me? You know all

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of this, and that, you know that speaks to this

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>idea that there is no global kind of answer or

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>no macro answer to these micro issues. Each person's a

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>micro you know what I mean. And then yeah, and

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>then then in the middle of that, you go, all right,

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>so now I've got a good program, and I've got

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a good diet, and I've got I know, I've got

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>lots of resources like collegis wise and also practically, I've

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>got a membership or I've got a financial coach, or

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I've got you know, a business coach or whatever it is.

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I've got all these things to help me get there.

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>But I just always fucking lose momentum at week three

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and then and then they go. So that's my reason.

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I go, well, is there a way that if you

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>lost momentum at week three you could keep going anyway?

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, yeah, I go, so what's momentum? Oh

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like I was enjoying it. It was no, no, no, no,

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I go, So you not enjoying it now? Not really cool?

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to enjoy it. This is one of

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>our self created barriers is we think that everything that's

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>worth doing has to be fun. No, it doesn't have

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>to be fun like it doesn't you know, like working

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>with elite athletes as you like getting into a boxing

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>ring like you've done numerous times, or training an AFL player,

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>or training someone to summitt Everest. Guess what this is

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>going to suck a lot. So if you're dependent on

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the process of growth and evolution and achievement, if you're

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>dependent on comfort, will fucking get another goal? Makes sense?

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Is the is the prize and the process is shit.

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's the case in everything I've done,

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's the process in everything I love, like boxing.

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>When I was training, walking away from training with a

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.959
<v Speaker 2>sense of an achievement was amazing. But turning up driving

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to training and turning up to training and starting training

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and being in the middle of training was awful, Like

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I dreaded it awful most of the time. An hour's

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>drive to the gym and I in the afternoon and

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I reckon every single afternoon I was like, I hate this.

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I wish I didn't have to go today. I'm really tired.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>And then every drive home I was like, this is

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 2>that's the best thing ever. This is the like I

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>just don't ever want to stop this.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>And I would go, so, how long are you in

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the boxing for and you'd go, oh, an hour. I go,

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>so how many hours a day you're not boxing? And

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty three? Shut the fuck up? Do you know what

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks like I also think it's really interesting

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>that we revert straight to like we need to revert

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to self awareness and curiosity when when we're looking at

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>how we behave with motivation or lack thereof, instead of

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>self criticism and self you know, like we are critical

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>about what we've done, and then we go straight into

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 2>berating ourselves, which gives us no scope to learn. Yes,

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>then we just asked someone else for the answer. Yes,

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 2>just crazy.

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Also, let's wrap some context around this. I don't want

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to make you or me sad, but one of our

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>friends at the moment is really really really unwell. So

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that person doesn't have the option of not dealing with it.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is horrible, this is hard, This is

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>all the things. I'm not doing it. Well, you're doing it,

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's like Johnny at the gym every day

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>is hard, you know, spinal cord injury, traumatic brain injury,

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>all the other bits and pieces. Every workout's hard. Getting

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>out of the car is hard, getting from the car

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>into the gym, sitting on a bench then standing up

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>from the bench is hard. You know. It's all he

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>can't go, oh fuck this, I can't be bothered having

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a spinal cord injury today, I'll do it next week.

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like no, and so motivation doesn't come into it

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>or because it's like, well, it does to an extent,

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, oh, I can't walk properly, so I

0:32:58.200 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>even need to do it this way or not do

0:32:59.920 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>it at all. Well, he wants to train with us

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.959
<v Speaker 1>three days a week. So he comes in and he

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 1>does it, and it's never fun or painless, and you go, oh,

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>so if I shift my mind, because one of the

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>problems is that you and I we ever get out

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of jail, card like I can go, I'm going to

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>do this. I'm going to go I'm going to walk

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand steps to day, which obviously is a very

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>easy commitment. I'm not trying to compare that, and I'm

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>not comparing that to anything that's actually hard. But I

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have to do it today. No one knows, no

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>one cares. I can just not do it. Like the

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>challenge is to do the thing that you need to

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>do to reach your goal or change yourself when no

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.959
<v Speaker 1>one's looking, no one gives a fuck, no one's cheering,

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 1>there are no accolades, and then do the thing and

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>don't tell people, Well, don't, you know, don't outwardly go

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you tell people incidentally, It's like, I

0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>get asked a lot lately about how the fuck are

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you so lean? I think it's just because I've just

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>been for a year and a half, seven days a

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>week just doing this walking, because my diets are same,

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>my training's the same. I think that's moved the needle significantly.

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I've lost, you know, over ten kilos. I'm not suggesting

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that's good or bad, but it's like, oh, that's because

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>one day I realized how little I walked. I was

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>averaging four to four and a half thousand steps a

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>day for the last twelve months because I sit at

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 1>my fucking computer so much, and sit in my car

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and fucking lie in my bed and sit in my

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>leather chair over there and watch the news. And then

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you go, all right, well, what's the answer. Well, the

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>answer is super super easy. But you know, it's like

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 1>move more, or it's not super simple. And some things

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>are very simple conceptually but difficult to execute because of

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the effort required. Walking up a man, how fucking how

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>complex is that?

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Not?

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Really just walk one foot after the other, takes some

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>water with here on a sandwich. We're not talking about everest,

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but we're talking up you know, maybe about a five

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>hour uphill walk and a three or four hour down

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>depending on your fitness and capability, of course, but it's

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 1>not complex or complicated or cognitively difficult. It's really fucking simple.

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>But it hurts.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>That's think also unpacked. As you said before, and you

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 2>say this often, but I reckon we could unpack a

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>bit about it, that idea of you don't have to

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to love it, you don't have to

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. But I think that there's context around that.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:48.280
<v Speaker 2>So I think there's a there's a we have choices,

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and we have ways to create behaviors or habits or

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 2>relationships with the experience of something. And of course, if

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you excuse me, if you hate something, if you just

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 2>spies it, you're not going to continue to do it. So,

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 2>like always say to people, you need to find your

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 2>boxing ring. Not everybody's answer is in the boxing ring

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>with a punch in the face. But if you can

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>find your boxing ring, the thing that is worth hurting for,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the thing that is worth going Oh, I don't want

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 2>to do this, but for me, this version of I

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do. This is my version, and I

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>will and I can learn to love it, and I'll

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 2>definitely learn I'll be able to stick with it enough

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>to build a relationship with the outcome of it, with

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the endorphins at the end and the results that I

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>get and the progress and the changes that I see eventually.

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, one hundred percent and the You know, if

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>there are two options that produce the same outcome and

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>one's easier, I'm going to tell you choose the easier

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>one because you get the same result. Like we're not

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 1>choosing difficult for the sake of Life's got to be hard.

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But the truth is some things require hard along the way.

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>So this is how I get a PhD. Or this

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>is how I declutter my house. I'm going to spend

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes a day for the next fifty days just

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>chucking shit out, going through cupboards, going to the op shop,

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>dropping shit at the tip or whatever it is. And

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty days times you know, thirty minutes is fifteen hundred minutes.

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>That's sucking a shitload of time or whatever it is.

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 1>And we go, is that right, fifty days times thirty minutes. Yeah,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>And you just you know you do it and you're like,

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't enjoy this, That's okay, you don't need to.

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like I used to often say to my clients

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>at the gym. Remember, like we had my gym on

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the highway, ten thousand square feet that it was always

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>full of people. And sometimes I would say to my

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>clients or I would say to someone on the gym floor,

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>why don't you just jump on the bike and do

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes just warm up or whatever, doesn't have to

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>be crazy, just warm up to I don't like the bike.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the bike. I'm like, well, then definitely

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 1>get on the fucking bike, right, yes, So I don't

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>care if you like it, you know, I'm we're talking

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 1>about what's good for you. Yeah. Or do you say

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>walk walk at five and a half k's walk for

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes, but put it on a three degree incline? Ah,

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that hurts so much. I'm like, correct, off you go. Yeah,

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Like this kind of obsession we have with making everything

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>or trying to find a way to not do the

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>proper work.

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And like, think about that. We know when you talk

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>to doctor Cam all the time, that idea of everyone

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 2>being so different like that same thing, like, okay, I

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 2>hate running, but maybe running with a friend is your thing,

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 2>or maybe running with some form of competition motor. So

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 2>there is a version of something that will motivate you

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>within the environment of that thing one hundred percent.

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>That is a very very good point. You know, my

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>experience of going and walking on a treadwhill, which I

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>agree everyone is pretty fucking boring, but I still use

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>a treadmill a few days a week, depending on because

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>like the other day, I was fucking pissing down and

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>so I walked. I'm a member of two gyms, so

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I walked to I'll give them a shout out to

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>trackside down the road from me, and I just walk there,

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>which is maybe one k or something, and I go in.

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of treadies. I just get on the

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>end tready. I have my headphones on and I listen

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to something that usually I listen to something that's going

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to teach me or entertain me or just be music,

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>like just transport me somewhere else emotionally, right, that thirty

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>minutes goes quicker in inverted commas, nudge nudge, and also

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>my enjoyment factor versus just walking with no stimulation. Now

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>this is for me right, for a lot of people

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 1>hate headphones, totally understand. But it goes from a three

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 1>or four where time seemingly fucking stands still, like, oh

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>my god, that five minutes just took an hour, versus ah,

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>my time's up. Oh that went quick because I'm not

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>thinking about what I'm doing. I'm involved in this conversation,

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>which to me is fascinating. And so there's that like

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>time is. Obviously time is a constant, but as an experience,

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it's subjective, and so we have our own relationship. I'm digressing,

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but I love this shit. This is interesting. We have

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>our own relationship with time, and that bends depending on

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the level of enjoyment of what we're doing. You know,

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you go the dentist and he or she is going

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>hard in the paint and you're getting smashed and poked

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and needles and proder and like fact that eight minutes

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>just took an hour and a half or whatever it is,

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, versus something like the same with me watching

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 1>not too long ago, I flew to Perth and I'm

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>like perse like the middle of the road. It's like

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not that long, but it's it's long enough, you know,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>it's four hours. I watched two movies and I went, oh,

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I'm in Perth, and both movies were good.

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, gid y up. This is the way to

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>go versus just looking at my well, I don't have

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a watch, but looking at my phone every seventeen minutes

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>going ah, that's seventeen minutes more, you know. But again,

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>this is like understanding that you experience. How do you

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>create your own version of reality, whether or not that's

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 1>around perception of time, or how you optimize your physiology,

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>or how you organize your social life, or how you

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>build an operating system for life that works for you

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't work for your best friend. You know, that's where

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you're starting. This is like an exercise in self awareness,

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 1>self recognition, self regulation, self optimization, and at the end

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of the line is self actualization, which is where you

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>like who you wanted to be.

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just thinking about when you first started

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.399
<v Speaker 2>training me, and it was for a show that didn't

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.240
<v Speaker 2>end up going ahead, But the outcome of that training

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>was you rang me every day and just gave me

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 2>in the moment. This is your task today, and it

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 2>was a range of things that were designed to just

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>be out of my scope and uncomfortable, and running was

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 2>something you made me start doing and I wasn't running then,

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and every run you gave me I run to the

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>point I remember thinking, oh, running is just how willing

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you are to be how uncomfortable for how long? Because

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 2>every ridiculous task you gave me, I annihilated it and

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe it. And I thought to me, I

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 2>recognized in that moment, if I wanted to for my

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 2>age and capabilities and I chose to take this, I

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>could be a really good runner and I could do

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>something with this because I because I don't have a

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 2>background in this. Yes, But as soon as that show

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 2>was not on the table anymore, the motivation was gone.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 2>And I also went, well, that's interesting because I have

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 2>no drive to want to do anything with that. I

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 2>definitely don't run that hard anymore. It was completely and

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 2>it just went that is to me, that's interesting, So

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 2>go well, there's a lot of things. Doesn't really matter

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 2>what potential you have, you say it all the time,

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 2>that matters what you do with it. And I just

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 2>found that really interesting.

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.439
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of things out of that that came

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to mind. One is, everybody has self doubt and underestimates

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>their ability. So when I go, and also in concert

0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>with this, you are a very good student if I

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>coach you the right way. So when I would go,

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember specifics back, I can't remember what I

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 1>said to you seven years ago or whatever, but I

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>would go, I want you to run five k's and

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't go hack and five k's, ah, but you go, really,

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I go, I know you can do five case and

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>then your belief would go from I'm not sure I

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.399
<v Speaker 1>could do five k's too, oh harpstold me I can.

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>So I can, right, because I understood your athletic and

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.959
<v Speaker 1>genetic potential and I'd already trained you, so I wasn't

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 1>guessing or stabbing in the dark. Right, And then you'd

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>go and run five k's because you knew now because

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I told you so. You didn't have more potential or

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you were a better runner. You just had a different mindset,

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and that was, oh, I can do this. So the

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>self doubt was taken away or at least reduced. And

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the other thing is, and as you know this, and

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you know me. I don't. I don't do things for

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like bluff and bluster. It's like, like I just trained

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you and Brad before an hour ago. Obviously I'm not

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>telling you news but my our listeners. And so Brad's

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a second dan black belt in jiu jitsu. There's very

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>few of those in Australia. It takes you ten to

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>twelve years just to get a black belt. Most people

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>never do. And then to become a second dan. You know,

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like he's he's an elite level athlete in his sport.

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And then you also, compared to the average person your age,

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>God bless everyone else, you're elite. And you also train people,

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and Brad owns a jiu jitsu academy and trains lots,

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>so you both relatively evolved and elite in general terms.

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 1>But also you know that when we go to the gym,

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we're not hanging out, we're not fucking round, we're not buddies.

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>We're buddies of course, but I'm like, do this, do that?

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Do do ten of those at that weight and you go,

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>You essentially go roger that and you go do it.

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.399
<v Speaker 1>And the same with Brad. Because one, I don't want

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to have the coerce people to do anything. I'm not

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>your fucking mum or dad. I'm not your cheer squad.

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to make you feel good. I'm trying

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to help you become a weapon. I'm trying to help

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you build resilience and strength and understanding and an understanding

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>of what's possible for you. The best coaches make themselves redundant.

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>The worst coaches want to build a client base that

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>is dependent on them, right, that's about the coach, that's

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>not about the athlete. So I want to fuck you

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 1>off as soon as possible. I mean, you know, it's

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>different if you know we just trained together down the

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 1>track for you know, because we're in each other's proximity

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>or life, right, But that where you go into the

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>gym and I say, what are you up to today?

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:57.399
<v Speaker 1>As in what muscle group do, because we're always doing

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>strength or power or a bit of muscle endurance or

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. And you go on training legs today

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and like you did yesterday, and I went go and

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>do the hack squat. I know you hate the hack squat.

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Everybody hates the hack squat. The hack squats, motherfucker. And

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I know you don't want to do it. I know

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you hate it, and in a nice way, I don't

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>care care about you, care about the outcome, don't care

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>if you enjoy the next ten minutes at all. And

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I go, all right, let's start on the hack squat.

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.720
<v Speaker 1>And you look at me for like a nano second

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and you know not to waste your energy by protesting

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 1>on any level. And then, like a fucking puppy with

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.479
<v Speaker 1>your tail between your legs, you kind of mope over,

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:43.319
<v Speaker 1>but you just go do it. And I remember you

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>were on like your third set doing nearly spewing and

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you could barely get the weight back up, and I

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>think you said something like you remember better than me,

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.399
<v Speaker 1>but you were like it was almost like you were

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>working at almost one hundred percent mm hm. And you

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>looked at me in the mirror, and I looked at

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you and you went fuck harps, and I went, eh, eh, whatever,

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>like because you were going to shit yourself or spew

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>or rip something or whatever, and you didn't do any

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>of it, Like you finished it, and you did it.

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>But then when you've done it, you're like, yeah, fucking

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>fist in the air. But in the middle of it,

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it's horrible.

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Before you turning up today, I said, I was telling

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Brad and I said, you know, I love and hate

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 2>doing legs with harps because of that, because of what

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 2>you make me do with legs. No one likes legs,

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 2>especially not when you've ripping out the hack squad. I

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do that. I don't do the hack squad very

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>rarely by myself and never to that potential ever. And

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 2>also I love the fact that you that I will

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>turn up and go it's legs today, and I know

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 2>that I don't want to say it, but I do

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>want to say it.

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And also I'll be What that teaches us is

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that in the right context, you can your performance can

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>go up thirty percent. And in this case, it's like

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm standing by and I'm telling you what to do,

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 1>or I'm encouraging you, or I'm telling it. And also

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, everyone when she does a good job,

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I go, that's fucking amazing. I go, that's great, that's

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 1>a great set, well done, that's awesome. But it's not

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>all flowery and bullshitty. And if I say it's awesome,

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>it's awesome, like I will compliment people. I will, I

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>will encourage them and support them. But if they're doing

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>a shit job, I'm not going to tell them they're

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>doing a good job. Yeah, like this is the problem,

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to say, oh, you're doing a

0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>shit job. But I'm saying it's not my job to

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>make people feel emotionally good for five minutes. My job

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>is to help you become amazing over the next five, ten, fifteen,

0:49:57.080 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty years by starting to understand own potential. You know, So,

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I just realized I've got another podcast in six minutes.

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were supposed to.

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>That went quick, didn't it.

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we must have been motivated.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm so inspired, look at me. Well that

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>was an abrupt inning. Sorry, everyone, I just realized I've

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>got about five minutes and twenty seconds before I'm on

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:25.359
<v Speaker 1>with doctor Lillian. Good old doctor Lillian has good young

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 1>doctor Lillian. I should say it hasn't been around for

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a hot minute. So we'll look forward to that and

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>you can probably expect that to come up tomorrow if

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:35.959
<v Speaker 1>it's always good.

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thanks Harps.

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Roger, that stand by and out in three two,

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 1>one beep,