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Speaker 1: Apogae Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I a Bad Mum? Podcast?

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Speaker 2: It's the question we constantly ask, am my a bad mum?

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Speaker 1: But am I?

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Speaker 2: I would also like to put it out there, am

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Speaker 2: I a bad kid? Sometimes a lot?

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Speaker 1: I was like, don't even get me started. I have

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Speaker 1: some guys over doing the backyard stuff for me today.

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Speaker 1: And he is not a dad and he's not like

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Speaker 1: what I would imagine the demographic of this podcast is.

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Speaker 1: He was talking to me about something and he goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be around today and I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I've got to just duck over. And then I just

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Speaker 1: could feel the sarcasm about to pour out of my

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Speaker 1: body and I was like, no, it's gonna pop over

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Speaker 1: to tramp side and get my daughter's laptop fixed because

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Speaker 1: she poured water all over it at school. And he

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Speaker 1: just like burst out laughing and goes, oh gosh. She's

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Speaker 1: like I can't wait to hear about this one on

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Speaker 1: the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I said to my husband day yesterday, I said, oh,

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Speaker 2: Rachel's got to go to Apple in the morning and

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Speaker 2: get their laptop fixed. And he went, oh, whoy what

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Speaker 2: happened to her laptop? I went no, Gracie's laptop water

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Speaker 2: damage and he went, oh, already, she's only just started

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Speaker 2: high school. I was like, yeah, I know, because we've

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Speaker 2: had two laptops replaced. One got komb Butcher. How privileged

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Speaker 2: Kim Butcher was spilled on the keyboard of the Apple Mac.

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Speaker 1: K Butcher. Sorry, there's somewhere in it. She mentions, I

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Speaker 1: won't go through all of them. She mentions in there,

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Speaker 1: please don't tell Katie because I know that both of

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Speaker 1: her girls had to get their laptops waist. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I just like I died because I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about it. Because when we were in there

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Speaker 1: and we went through the process and we bought the laptop,

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Speaker 1: I said, just for the record, I said, Katie's girls

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Speaker 1: have had these replaced twice. Once you do this, just once,

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm not replacing it. You will use the

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Speaker 1: ones that you get from school, and you'll land it.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think she's doing right now? She's

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Speaker 1: lending the school one four, one hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: later because we've got Apple Care.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was gonna say thank goodness for insurance,

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Speaker 2: but also not thank goodness for insurance. Because what I found, well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, you pay an excess.

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Speaker 1: Well the excess even for Apple care because it's accidental,

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Speaker 1: like basically I did it to it intentionally, Gracie did.

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Speaker 1: It's not their fault. So there's different excesses. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: missed that. And the fine print. Yeah yeah, yeah, no

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Speaker 1: fine print.

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Speaker 2: There care, no, no, because spilling water on a laptop must.

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Speaker 1: Happen all the time, all the time, so.

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Speaker 2: Of course they're not just going to have them covered

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: Stupid sixty dollars fucking water bottle that she had to have.

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Speaker 1: I said, why was it inside your bag? Yeah? She

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Speaker 1: never puts it inside her bag. She puts it in

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Speaker 1: the water bottle slot on the side of her bag normally.

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Speaker 2: Because they leave everywhere. Hurry, yeah, such a hurry. Throw

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Speaker 2: it in with the laptop. We'll just getting the mum.

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Speaker 1: We'll get another one.

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Speaker 2: She'll fix it.

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Speaker 1: But don't worry about it, guys, what's mom doing? She's

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Speaker 1: got nothing on Actually, get the whole bottle, tip it

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Speaker 1: all over it. Am I a bad mom for not

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Speaker 1: liking how we teach our kids anymore?

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Speaker 2: I feel like school is in such an old fashioned place.

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Speaker 1: It is, well, it is you know what brought this up?

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Speaker 1: Those a couple of things. One is Elsie came home

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Speaker 1: needed homework help. We were allowed to use the like research.

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Speaker 1: Remember the days where we had to like if you

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Speaker 1: had a research something, you'd have to get out like

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Speaker 1: the book and like read the book and like run

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Speaker 1: your fingers across the paragraph. Oh yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's what we want. Now it's like, yes, your research yet,

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Speaker 1: put in fucking Google go for gold. But it was

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Speaker 1: something that I just triggered this memory of like why

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Speaker 1: are you still learning about this? I've never used Captain

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Speaker 1: cook in anything of my entire life. Why are you

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Speaker 1: now learning about it? It's just a cookie cutter of

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Speaker 1: what we learn thirty years ago. What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Like I get that we've got oh there's a new

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Speaker 1: Yeah cool. So when we're doing that, why are we

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Speaker 1: not upgrading? It feels like everything is upgrading in terms

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Speaker 1: some is, some isn't except for our schooling curriculum.

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Speaker 2: And if you think about where life is now and

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Speaker 2: even the jobs right, so look at ai. AI for example,

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Speaker 2: is doing everything like Chat GPT is like Google on

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Speaker 2: fucking acid, Like.

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Speaker 1: You don't even need friends anymore. We just got chat GBT.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so why are we still learning some of

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Speaker 2: those old school things. When we went to school, we

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Speaker 2: needed math right because we were never going to be

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Speaker 2: in a situation, or so we thought at the time,

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Speaker 2: We now do. We have a calculator in our bags.

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Speaker 2: We use our phones more than we've got Apple per

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Speaker 2: We don't even need a handbag. We take our phones.

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Speaker 2: That's all we need is to take our phones everywhere.

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Speaker 2: My husband gets into his car and starts his car

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Speaker 2: with his phone. That's all you need. And so why

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Speaker 2: are we so outdated? Even the jobs that they're going

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Speaker 2: to be doing in the future, we're not equipping them

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Speaker 2: for those jobs with what we're teaching them. In school,

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Speaker 2: Holly had her English teacher was talking about she had

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Speaker 2: to do a written assessment, and then her teacher was

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Speaker 2: talking about the that she didn't put paragraphs in and

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, she needs to do that, blah

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Speaker 2: but she never handwrites anything. Everything is done on the computer.

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Speaker 2: I do think we need to be able to spell

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Speaker 2: and yeah, things like that, But when they're doing all

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Speaker 2: of their schoolwork on a computer, they're not learning to

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bring it back with that one because

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Speaker 1: I can literally hear my grade seven teacher who is

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Speaker 1: and all the rest, and she's amazing. We bounce this

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Speaker 1: conversation off of each other. It would almost like be

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Speaker 1: from a for me a coaching perspective, right of going, like, well,

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Speaker 1: in order to be able to sprint, we need to

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Speaker 1: work on your gate and then from there we work

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Speaker 1: on a little bit of like you're running, and then

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Speaker 1: from there you'll sprint. Right, So stripping that back into

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Speaker 1: of that. But I think like somewhere along the lines.

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Speaker 1: If we removed all this base level of learning, there

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Speaker 1: would have to be like I guess implications somewhere. So

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Speaker 1: I can hear her literally screaming at me, going Rachel,

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Speaker 1: so I do understand that. I just think that with

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Speaker 1: what we're tackling right now, with the number of like

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Speaker 1: neurodiverse learning difficulties that come with all of these areas,

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Speaker 1: like we should be evolving, like with like our kids

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Speaker 1: and what they need and their requirements and even adapting

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Speaker 1: classrooms and how we deliver it. And this just gould

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Speaker 1: be so much more. And there was a few things

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Speaker 1: that got me to this point, but there was one

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Speaker 1: the other day which is quite funny. Leo, my nephew.

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Speaker 1: He's only four, so he's not at school yet. This

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Speaker 1: And I'm just going to put a disclaimer out. He's

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Speaker 1: fine and there was no dramas and he did not

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Speaker 1: there's no door on it. Like you know, it's like,

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Speaker 1: would you call that old school podcast? Backs me sound

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Speaker 1: like I let my four year old and nephew free

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Speaker 1: range near an open file in my Victorian house. I don't,

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Speaker 1: I promise, but he was over there. He did something

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I remember, no, Leo, don't worry,

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Speaker 1: just stop, drop and roll. And then I was like

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but that was like thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: I was like, but it's still so relevant. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: there was set things like that goes yeah, like maybe

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Speaker 2: We yeah yeah, yeah, like get in the carpet, roll

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Speaker 1: Well, I said, well, if you're at school, what are

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Speaker 1: like something about a hat. It was about hat sunscreen

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Speaker 1: and something else. I don't know, but it slip slops up.

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Speaker 1: That's all I remember. And I was like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: remember sun safe, slip stops up. Yeah. If you're gonna

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of a hopeless feeling, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: because I feel like we're not teaching them the obvious

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Speaker 2: them old fashioned schooling, which they're never going to need

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Speaker 2: in a world where AI is taking over and all

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Speaker 2: the jobs are completely going to change.

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Speaker 1: But this is my thing. It's like it came down

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Speaker 1: to exactly that they don't know how to save themselves

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Speaker 1: if they're on fire, but then they know about Captain

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Speaker 1: Cook and the first like what we're doing?

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Speaker 2: Algebra? An algebra?

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Speaker 1: Algebra? Like if you're really smart at MASS, I'd say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: take algebra. But if you're in there going like I

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Speaker 1: love to tell stories and chat, I'd be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what about podcasting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, our business, as you know, RAG does do

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Speaker 2: a schools program where we go into schools and we

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Speaker 2: teach kids how to podcast you. Yeah, but do you

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Speaker 2: know how many people are doing your rage? How many

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Speaker 2: schools have we got maybe like five or six? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there are thousands of schools. They're not there yet. Everyone

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Speaker 2: does a podcast. Yeah, they're not there yet.

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Speaker 1: But then I think, like that about from the base

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Speaker 1: level of English, Yes, they've gone on like the base

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff, but then elevated into podcasting. How

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Speaker 1: put into it? Like all of those other things that

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Speaker 1: would then elevate different areas you know, not necessarily content creation,

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Speaker 1: but like you know, there's so much in it. But

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Speaker 1: we're just still on James Cook.

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Speaker 2: Just quickly on jobs that we think are going to

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Speaker 2: get taken over by AI. Well, first of all, there's

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Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty safe. I was like, I don't

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Speaker 2: your size. Right, So I'm going to do that. What

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Speaker 2: you think AI can't do that, I do think that

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Speaker 1: I show you one job that AI is not going

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Speaker 1: to take over. Poledancer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, kids, all right, you two occupations you could be

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Speaker 2: thinking of. You're either gonna learn to nail AI or

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Speaker 2: you are going to be a pole dancer.

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Speaker 1: There's numerous averagues that you can but I can't see

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Speaker 1: AI take you over that