Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Happy
Speaker 1: Sunday and Happy King's Birthday anyway, public holidays for all.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it. Now, we've got lots to get to tonight.
Speaker 1: These are big shows when we know that you're able
Speaker 1: to watch the whole thing. Sleep in to morrow. Enjoy yourself. Now,
Speaker 1: let's start with the obvious. The Paris Climate Meeting was
Speaker 1: about setting targets for twenty thirty. Many of the Western
Speaker 1: countries decided to sign up to it as the beginning
Speaker 1: of what ultimately became net zero by twenty thirty. Sorry,
Speaker 1: by twenty fifty. Now, twenty thirty wasn't meant to be
Speaker 1: that everyone would get everything done by then, but we
Speaker 1: would begin the process moving towards a reduction in carbon
Speaker 1: But of course the deal is deeply flawed. Why because
Speaker 1: while Australia, say, is one percent of climate emissions, China
Speaker 1: is able to continue to pollute and say, double every
Speaker 1: single month the amount of pollution that they put into
Speaker 1: the atmosphere because they don't even have to register their
Speaker 1: target till twenty thirty, and that's the number that they
Speaker 1: will start reducing by twenty sixty. They produce way more
Speaker 1: pollution than we do, but because we are of the
Speaker 1: western nations that must atone for the sins of the past,
Speaker 1: we had to cut compared to our two thousand and
Speaker 1: five levels. At the time, I didn't like the idea
Speaker 1: of the Paris Accord. At the time, it seemed obvious
Speaker 1: that if China wasn't going to have to play by
Speaker 1: the same rules as the rest of the world, and
Speaker 1: they were creating way more problems the little old Australia,
Speaker 1: it seemed counterproductive that even if Australia did everything that
Speaker 1: the lefties won, we would be swamped within what a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks I think is what the IPA put
Speaker 1: out there. Within about sixteen days, I think it is
Speaker 1: that Australia would just be completely replaced in terms of
Speaker 1: the emissions by what China is taking place. Now. I've
Speaker 1: had many elections since then and many positions on what
Speaker 1: people to believe is the absolute commitment that Australia should make.
Speaker 1: But the one thing that has changed since Anthony Abernezi
Speaker 1: became the Prime Minister wasn't just saying that we would
Speaker 1: have a forty three percent emissions reduction based off our
Speaker 1: two thousand and five levels. But it actually is the
Speaker 1: law in Australia. It's not just a vague commitment signed
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper. It is something that has
Speaker 1: a law that has passed the Lower House and the
Speaker 1: Upper House. The consequences of not meeting those targets I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't read the law in full. But
Speaker 1: as you will have heard, the lefties are losing their
Speaker 1: mind because of an interpretation of a quote that Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton gave to a newspaper yesterday. Here's the outrage version.
Speaker 1: Dutton to pull Australia out of Paris Agreement if elected.
Speaker 1: What he actually said to the Australian newspaper on Saturday
Speaker 1: is there's no sense in signing up to targets you
Speaker 1: don't have any prospect of achieving. That does not explicitly
Speaker 1: say that he wants to pull out of the Paris Accord.
Speaker 1: But I'll get to why he may be trying to
Speaker 1: think that that is an option that the Australian public
Speaker 1: want to get to in a moment. But all the
Speaker 1: people who had to come out and support the suggestion
Speaker 1: at least that Paris may well be negotiable if there
Speaker 1: was to be a change of government next year was obvious.
Speaker 1: We begin with the NATS.
Speaker 2: That's totally false to think that by us not meeting
Speaker 2: our twenty thirty target would see us kicked out of it.
Speaker 2: We are committed to our twenty fifty target. In fact,
Speaker 2: at the largest KOP meeting in the UAE, most countries
Speaker 2: will fall short of their twenty thirty target. So what
Speaker 2: we've said is, let's be honest, let's look at Shans
Speaker 2: in the eye and say not even this government's going
Speaker 2: to make their twenty thirty target because they can't get
Speaker 2: to eighty two percent renewables by twenty thirty.
Speaker 1: There's not the supply chain to do it. Now. While
Speaker 1: the NATS went into the last election with a target
Speaker 1: on twenty fifty, and I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: have an opinion on that should be nez zero by
Speaker 1: twenty fifty, they never really supported the idea of the
Speaker 1: twenty thirty target, so any potential wiggle room to get
Speaker 1: out of that is something that they will support. Now,
Speaker 1: let's see what happens tomorrow when inevitably someone gets a
Speaker 1: microphone under Peter Duttons nos, so we can find out
Speaker 1: exactly what the position is. But let's just continue with
Speaker 1: the theory that apparently the Libs are going to pull
Speaker 1: out of the Paris Agreement. Now, I think this is
Speaker 1: based off one big bet. If they are to pull out,
Speaker 1: the big bet is that Trump will win in November. Now,
Speaker 1: if Trump wins in November, there is every expectation that
Speaker 1: he would pull out of the Paris Climate Accord, as
Speaker 1: he did when he was president between twenty sixteen and
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Since twenty twenty, there has been an awful
Speaker 1: lot of targets that have been set by the Americans,
Speaker 1: but they are not the same legal target that passed
Speaker 1: our parliament. This is important to know because a president
Speaker 1: can change the direction of things as opposed to a
Speaker 1: series of things that have been set into law for
Speaker 1: obvious reasons. People who believe that Australia's transition should be
Speaker 1: on the same timeline as a serious polluter like China,
Speaker 1: where we're talking more about twenty fifty and twenty sixty,
Speaker 1: not twenty thirty, would therefore see that a four year
Speaker 1: change in a presidency, which would go from twenty and
Speaker 1: twenty five to January twenty and twenty nine, would essentially
Speaker 1: mean that the twenty thirty target becomes irrelevant because the
Speaker 1: United States is a big economy, is a big polluter,
Speaker 1: would of course be not operating under that system. Now
Speaker 1: that's what I think the bet is here. But you've
Speaker 1: already seen what the reaction from the Labor Party is.
Speaker 1: They are saying that it is a signed, sealed, absolutely
Speaker 1: announced policy. Now it may well be. I'll wait to
Speaker 1: hear from Peter Dutton in front of a camera or
Speaker 1: a microphone to actually hear whether that's their position or not.
Speaker 1: But Labour think they have already won the next election
Speaker 1: based exclusively off this apparent change in policy. They were
Speaker 1: cockahooped today when talking about the idea.
Speaker 3: If you're out of the Paris Accord, you with Libya,
Speaker 3: Yemen and Iran, and with all due respect to those countries,
Speaker 3: they are not great investment destinations. That Peter Dutton would
Speaker 3: put Australia in that company and take Australia away from
Speaker 3: the table when it comes to investment in renewable energy
Speaker 3: shows that he would be a worse Prime Minister for
Speaker 3: Climate and Energy than Tony Abbot and Scott Morrison.
Speaker 4: Any Australian who thinks climate change is real would think
Speaker 4: now that Peter Dutton is a real risk, a risk
Speaker 4: to investment, a risk to jobs, but just a risk
Speaker 4: that Australia will do nothing to tackle climate change.
Speaker 1: You know, even Tony.
Speaker 4: Abbot didn't pull out of a global agreement on climate
Speaker 4: change and he thinks it's crap. You know, this makes
Speaker 4: Tony Abbot look like Al Gore.
Speaker 1: Now again, this is part of an overall attempt to
Speaker 1: build a narrative, and I talk often about how it's
Speaker 1: narrative good guy's, bad guys, good things, bad things, as
Speaker 1: opposed to news, which is so, what did they say today?
Speaker 1: The narrative that Labor has been trying to build on
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton is that he would be the most extreme,
Speaker 1: the most trump like figure to ever assume the Prime
Speaker 1: ministership of Australia. Now, of course it's rubbish, and I
Speaker 1: deeply disagree with many of the narratives that are trying
Speaker 1: to be built. But of course the general media ecosystem
Speaker 1: is more than happy to repeat that narrative because they
Speaker 1: like either the policies or they like the relationship that
Speaker 1: they have with the current government. But the question that
Speaker 1: makes me think, I'm not entirely sure that this is
Speaker 1: the all in new position of the coalition is that
Speaker 1: the coalition, of course, if it plans to get anywhere
Speaker 1: near government, needs to win seventy six seats in the Parliament.
Speaker 1: They are nowhere near it. Now. This policy would of
Speaker 1: course mean that the Teal seats would be assumed to
Speaker 1: be gone and anything that could be kind of teely
Speaker 1: again would be traded away to the Teals because the
Speaker 1: suburbs have had enough of the cost of transition and
Speaker 1: all of the different policies that the Albanese government has
Speaker 1: put in place to get us to the twenty thirty
Speaker 1: target of forty three percent emissions production based off two
Speaker 1: thousand and five. Now again, all of these commitments are
Speaker 1: dwarfed by everything China does, and China's two thousand and
Speaker 1: five doesn't come until two thousand and thirty. But have
Speaker 1: a look. These are the ten or so most vulnerable
Speaker 1: labor seats. Gilmore of course kind of near the south
Speaker 1: coast of New South Wales, Lions in Tasmania, Lingiari, which
Speaker 1: is in and around Alice Springs, bent Along, which is
Speaker 1: in and around the ride area of Sydney. Higgins, which
Speaker 1: is currently a labor seat formerly a Liberal seat, may
Speaker 1: well be a target of the Teals, but that seat
Speaker 1: may well disappear because of redistribution, Robertson on the Central coast,
Speaker 1: Tangy in Western Australia, Boothby in South Australia, McEwan in Victoria,
Speaker 1: and Patterson, which of course is kind of near the
Speaker 1: Hunter Valley in New South Wales. Now you could begin
Speaker 1: to build a picture somewhere that some parts of suburban
Speaker 1: Australia have said, we've had enough of paying for the transition.
Speaker 1: Therefore we don't care what the target is. Sure, let's
Speaker 1: do something in the effective political nevern ever of twenty fifty.
Speaker 1: But Labour thinks that if the government has as the
Speaker 1: opposition is going to commit to this change, then they're
Speaker 1: probably not going to win any of those seats. In fact,
Speaker 1: they may will end up losing some of their own
Speaker 1: territory back to the Teals. Now, regardless of whether you
Speaker 1: like or don't like Peter Dunton, and I know that,
Speaker 1: of course most people watching this program would hope for
Speaker 1: him to be the next Prime Minister of Australia. I
Speaker 1: certainly support his candidacy. But he's a man who certainly
Speaker 1: knows politics. He was able to smell the wind on
Speaker 1: the Voice, and he came out as no when it
Speaker 1: was sixty forty in the polls. Of course, the people
Speaker 1: ended up following his instinct. He was the one who said,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go to the job summit. Remember
Speaker 1: the job Summit, And of course it turned out that
Speaker 1: the job Summit was just a giant cover for the
Speaker 1: Labor Party to eventually give unions everything that they wanted.
Speaker 1: So I'll be fascinated tonight to Nicole Flint. Nicole Flint
Speaker 1: is a great conservative, a person who probably like me,
Speaker 1: does not like the Paris Agreement. But she of course
Speaker 1: is in one of those target ten. Does she think
Speaker 1: that it helps or hurts her? We will find out
Speaker 1: when she joins us in a few minutes time, But
Speaker 1: I want to wait till tomorrow, or maybe even Tuesday,
Speaker 1: if that's the back to work day, when we actually
Speaker 1: hear from Peter Dunton in his own words what the
Speaker 1: absolute policy is. Now, that's no suggestion that the reporting
Speaker 1: about it is false. It's not suggesting that he didn't
Speaker 1: say what was said in the interviews. But I'm not
Speaker 1: going to interpret the interview through the lens of labor
Speaker 1: looking for what they believe is an automatic disqualification for
Speaker 1: the Coalition at the next election. Let's wait and see
Speaker 1: what the actual policy is and then we can debate
Speaker 1: whether it is a good or bad idea. Now Australia
Speaker 1: has put simply sent too many generations of people to university.
Speaker 1: They're particularly done so with things like communications or marketing
Speaker 1: or arts. And I'm guilty that I'm one of the
Speaker 1: arts people. Sorry, but we have produced tens thousands of
Speaker 1: people with university degrees who either go on to not
Speaker 1: use the degree when it comes to the job, or
Speaker 1: the degree is not really relevant to a job that's
Speaker 1: available instead. Anyone who knows if you've asked anyone to
Speaker 1: come around and fix something at your house, if you
Speaker 1: really want to make some coin, now you want a
Speaker 1: tool belt, not the mortar board of which people graduate
Speaker 1: at universities with. Because these are very good paying jobs.
Speaker 1: If you're able to stand yourself up as an ABN
Speaker 1: and then eventually a business that ends up doing more work.
Speaker 1: There's an awful lot of money for people who work
Speaker 1: with their hands, but there aren't enough tradees in Australia.
Speaker 1: We have made a moral choice as a country that
Speaker 1: going to university is better than your kid going to
Speaker 1: Taife that somehow it's a cop out if your kid
Speaker 1: wants to look for a life in high views as
Speaker 1: opposed to backchatting their grandparents about how racist they are
Speaker 1: because you know boomers right. But there are people who
Speaker 1: believe that we have not got a problem at the
Speaker 1: moment with the number of trades around, and that would
Speaker 1: be the CFMU, who very politely say there's not a
Speaker 1: problem with any trade shortage in Australia. Well as anyone knows.
Speaker 1: You want somebody to retail your bathroom, to fix your roof,
Speaker 1: to put a top on the house, you're not going
Speaker 1: to be able to get a tradee available to do
Speaker 1: it anytime soon. And of course the costs of it
Speaker 1: are all through the roof for a whole collection of reasons.
Speaker 1: But you know, inflation, it's not a real thing. Nothing
Speaker 1: to worry about here. All the stuff that doesn't get
Speaker 1: made here made in China. You know, nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: But another apparent policy that the Coalition is going to
Speaker 1: take to the next election is a real winner, and
Speaker 1: it is to try to get back to the Howard
Speaker 1: era of things, where sure the state will pay for
Speaker 1: you to go to university and you can pay them
Speaker 1: back when you earn fifty grand. Good luck to you
Speaker 1: if you want to go and study whatever. But by
Speaker 1: introducing kids at school to the joys of a trade
Speaker 1: could well be a way to make sure that kids
Speaker 1: make the choice to work with their hands rather than
Speaker 1: just to do year thirteen, fourteen and fifteen at school
Speaker 1: like sadly too many generations have now. Of course, the
Speaker 1: Left wants everyone to go to UNI because they all
Speaker 1: end up voting a certain way. There are the odd
Speaker 1: exceptions to the rule, but you get my point anyway.
Speaker 1: The Coalition is apparently moving to revive a Howard Government
Speaker 1: era at skills in school policy to reverse flatlining trade
Speaker 1: apprenticeship completions, to encourage thousands of teenagers to attend technical
Speaker 1: colleges and fast track young Australians into jobs. There was
Speaker 1: a speech that was given on Friday to the Tertiary
Speaker 1: Education Council. Wow, what a fun night that would have been.
Speaker 1: What a long weekend they've been having with a deputy
Speaker 1: Liberal leader apparently said on Friday that the new pathways
Speaker 1: are needed for young Australians outside of universities and TAFEs.
Speaker 1: Now Susan ly apparently has said that there will be
Speaker 1: around one point six million secondary students in Australia and
Speaker 1: only one percent, or some twenty thousand of them are
Speaker 1: involved in some sort of school based apprenticeship or traineeship.
Speaker 1: This clearly should change. She also says about two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty three thousand students are doing vocational education in schools.
Speaker 1: The most popular skills are things like tourism, hospitality, sport,
Speaker 1: fitness and recreation, all things that again are not about
Speaker 1: going and doing a university degree. You start to learn
Speaker 1: some of those skills at school, you learn them at
Speaker 1: a tafe, and then you get on with your job
Speaker 1: because of course, part of an apprenticeship is that they'll
Speaker 1: help pay for you to go to tafe, so you
Speaker 1: might work one or two days tafe one or two days.
Speaker 1: You get the idea. It's a smart idea and I
Speaker 1: hope they do do it because Australia does need many
Speaker 1: more things than just more people going to university. Now, again,
Speaker 1: I will not hired from the fact that I went
Speaker 1: to university and it was a particularly wonderful intellectual experience,
Speaker 1: but it has nothing to do with a job I'm
Speaker 1: doing right now, and many of the people that I
Speaker 1: went to university with a long time ago now, but
Speaker 1: still again they didn't use what they learned at university.
Speaker 1: Many of them, of course, like myself, being able to
Speaker 1: pay back the debt so it's all worked out. But
Speaker 1: Australians need, when we have our career conversations with little
Speaker 1: kids and with teenagers, to talk with aspiration about doing
Speaker 1: things with your hands or doing things that aren't necessarily
Speaker 1: connected to university. I've seen it in many families where
Speaker 1: you get to that point in time where a kid
Speaker 1: is sixteen, seventeen or maybe eighteen towards the end of school,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: make sure you apply for lots of different things at UNI.
Speaker 1: Why why should those people have to go into a
Speaker 1: process of year thirteen, fourteen fifteen at school when they
Speaker 1: don't have a particular intellectual want to go and study
Speaker 1: any of those things, and they end up with a
Speaker 1: debt that eventually they will have to pay back. Whereas
Speaker 1: when it comes to a trade, yes there's some debt
Speaker 1: incurd along the way, but you actually start to earn
Speaker 1: money during the apprenticeship, let alone more money when you
Speaker 1: get to the end of it. Now on this program,
Speaker 1: we always say the Greens should go last. They are
Speaker 1: the most destructive force in Australian politics. I disagree with
Speaker 1: almost everything that they stand for, the way they present themselves,
Speaker 1: and largely the sanctimity in which they wrap their dismissiveness
Speaker 1: of anyone who disagrees with them. They believe in things
Speaker 1: that would change this country, in my belief, for the
Speaker 1: absolute worst.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, most recently many people have buckled at their
Speaker 1: position when it comes to the war in Gaza, the
Speaker 1: free free Palestine and the rivers of the sea, and
Speaker 1: the genocide and all the things that they've carried on
Speaker 1: within Parliament. But more importantly, remember people like Senator Marine
Speaker 1: Fruki have been photographed with people at protests who are
Speaker 1: holding up signs suggesting that the best place for the
Speaker 1: Jews is the bin. That's not advocacy for the innocent
Speaker 1: victims of what is happening in Gaza, There's no question
Speaker 1: about it. That of course, is not a way of
Speaker 1: suggesting any support for Hamas. It's about a recognition about
Speaker 1: the civilians that are being killed there as a result
Speaker 1: of Israel's response to what I Must did in October
Speaker 1: of last year. But Adam Dand of course is a
Speaker 1: man who will not be told no because he knows
Speaker 1: that the Labor Party needs the Greens and the Greens
Speaker 1: end up with more power when the Labor Party doesn't
Speaker 1: do the extreme things that the Greens want. The Greens
Speaker 1: sit at about ten percent in the polls, but that's
Speaker 1: enough to consistently get members of the Lower House elected
Speaker 1: and consistently add more numbers to their representation in the Senate. Remember,
Speaker 1: the Labor Party is planning to rig the Senate to
Speaker 1: have even more senators from the Northern territory and the
Speaker 1: Act and particularly the Act most likely will result in
Speaker 1: more left wing MPs and yes, even more Greens senators.
Speaker 1: They also know that if Labor goes new a minority,
Speaker 1: they will have absolute control over the Labor Party in
Speaker 1: the Lower House and of course the control they currently
Speaker 1: have in the Upper House because put simply without the
Speaker 1: Greens only does lay but not exist because of preferences.
Speaker 1: But of course laws can't pass the Parliament if the
Speaker 1: coalition says no to the ideas. Adam Bant today turned
Speaker 1: up at the regular protests which are in the name
Speaker 1: of the innocent victims of Palestine, but often end up
Speaker 1: excusing the actions of hamas latest tactic points. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: all misinformation. You don't understand what we're actually doing.
Speaker 5: Well, i'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: People have been paying a lot of attention and people
Speaker 1: have not seen you do the things that other countries
Speaker 1: have done. And we are angry, or we are angry,
Speaker 1: but it's not just this. There's a whole collection of
Speaker 1: other things where the Greens are the weather. Greens are
Speaker 1: just too extreme, whether ideas cost too much money, and
Speaker 1: the idea that well, if you just keep shaking billionaires
Speaker 1: eventually it'll pay for everything doesn't actually add up. These
Speaker 1: are people who want to introduce taxes on turnover, not profit,
Speaker 1: and anyone who runs a business knows there's a difference
Speaker 1: between the money that comes into the till and the
Speaker 1: money you have to take out of the till to
Speaker 1: pay for everything before you start to have money left
Speaker 1: over for profit. This weekend, former Prime Minister John Howard
Speaker 1: agreed with what I said last week, which is the
Speaker 1: Greens have to go last. It is now a moral question.
Speaker 1: Now Labor must put them last, the Coalition must put
Speaker 1: them last. They are the worst option on the ballot.
Speaker 1: Now if there are particular extreme, even further extreme examples,
Speaker 1: well they're okay, you can put them last and then
Speaker 1: you get to the Greens. But certainly the Labour Party
Speaker 1: should be handing preferences to the Liberal Party before the Greens,
Speaker 1: and the Liberal parties should be handing preferences to the
Speaker 1: Labor Party before the Greens. There are smart asses inside
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party who think, oh, give preferences to the
Speaker 1: Greens and then the Greens will win seats from Labor. Well,
Speaker 1: who does that help? Again, John Howard Today, he's called
Speaker 1: for Peter Dundon Anthony Alberneasy to adopt a common purpose
Speaker 1: and agree for the Liberal and Labour parties to put
Speaker 1: the Greens last on the how to vote cards because
Speaker 1: of their divisive policies. Mister Howard told the Weekend Australian
Speaker 1: that if the Liberal and Labour Party joined forces to
Speaker 1: put the Greens last of the next election, they could
Speaker 1: reject an unacceptable element of Australian politics. The Greens are
Speaker 1: the real extremists of Australian politics. Now, of course Labor
Speaker 1: won't do it because, as I've told you, seventy seats
Speaker 1: of their seventy eight in the Parliament exist because of
Speaker 1: Green's preferences. But let's see, that's why I never believe
Speaker 1: the fake fight. When the Greens pretend, when the Labour
Speaker 1: Party in this Prime minister pretends to have issues with
Speaker 1: the Greens, they truly have issues with the Greens. Put
Speaker 1: them last and wipe them out. There is a term
Speaker 1: you may have read somewhere. It is called fast fashion.
Speaker 1: This is stuff that is often sold directly on websites.
Speaker 1: Now this means it is pretty crappy stuff. It is
Speaker 1: made with particularly intensive issues when it comes to the environment.
Speaker 1: But more importantly, many of these very cheap products that
Speaker 1: people purchase because yay, look at that on the internet. Bang,
Speaker 1: you can be here within two hours. Oh yay, let's
Speaker 1: do that. The problem is some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: is being sold in some of these places is believed
Speaker 1: to be being made by slave labor. There's yet another
Speaker 1: call for people to actually use their shopping dollar, but
Speaker 1: also governments to turn around and say you can't sell
Speaker 1: stuff that's been made with slave labor. Low cost fashion
Speaker 1: brands are experiencing a boom in business as Australians look
Speaker 1: for cheaper consumer goods, but international organizations are warning companies
Speaker 1: may be cutting costs by using forced labor. Anti slavery
Speaker 1: groups have raised concerns about the practices of fast fashion
Speaker 1: retailers such as Shihin and Timu, calling for Australians to
Speaker 1: follow the leader of the United States and the European
Speaker 1: you need to ban imports of goods manufactured with poor
Speaker 1: human rights practices. Well, I completely agree when it comes
Speaker 1: to fast fashion, But what about the stuff that would
Speaker 1: help the government achieve its legislative target of forty three
Speaker 1: percent emissions and a change in our energy grid. The
Speaker 1: reality is that there is plenty a slave labor that
Speaker 1: comes out of China. We know specifically about the wigas
Speaker 1: and what they are made to do. They work in
Speaker 1: areas of China that produce much of the world's solar panels.
Speaker 1: Now Australia at some point is going to try to
Speaker 1: come up with an industry to make them here. But
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen at any scale anytime soon.
Speaker 1: So will anyone actually ask Anthony Albernizi, Adam Bant, Chris
Speaker 1: Bowen or anyone else who will spend the next couple
Speaker 1: of days talking about how the Liberal Party is going
Speaker 1: to tear up the Paris Agreement and say, just while
Speaker 1: we've got you, will you pass a law to guarantee
Speaker 1: that Australia will not import things made by slave labor,
Speaker 1: principally in China. Now, of course, if we did that,
Speaker 1: the handsome boy might get a call from the real
Speaker 1: bosses in Beijing. But it would be an actual statement
Speaker 1: about what Australia truly stands for and what we're willing
Speaker 1: to not accept as a way of getting to the
Speaker 1: targets of forty three percent of one percent of the
Speaker 1: world's climate emissions, while China can do whatever it wants
Speaker 1: between now and twenty thirty. Now, a couple of things
Speaker 1: I want to mention about cost of living for you tonight,
Speaker 1: because the Bureau Statistics scaves a very interesting insight into, surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: even more money that you have been spending on things
Speaker 1: in the past twelve months. Now. Of course, the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister and the treasure had nothing to see here. We're
Speaker 1: running the economy great, everything's awesome, we get gold stars,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Well, the ADA shows us that household
Speaker 1: spending on health in particular is up fifteen percent, i e.
Speaker 1: The cost of the amount of money that you are
Speaker 1: spending on health has gone up, not because you're using
Speaker 1: more of the health system, it's just access to anything
Speaker 1: that sits into that bracket of health has gone up
Speaker 1: way more than average inflation. Perfect example of all of
Speaker 1: this is that as you can see, food has gone
Speaker 1: up in the past twelve months. Furnishings have gone up
Speaker 1: by almost seven percent in the past twelve months. The
Speaker 1: amount you're spending on transport, that's because of petrol, but
Speaker 1: they won't cut petrol taxes, and of course things like health,
Speaker 1: but you can see everything costs more. Yet another example
Speaker 1: off the government saying one thing while you are forced
Speaker 1: to do another and shut up and pay now. I
Speaker 1: meant to get to this last week, but in box
Speaker 1: does get pretty full with what's going on. So this
Speaker 1: public holiday Sunday get the chance to recognize a state
Speaker 1: government that did something really important. Chrismins gave a formal
Speaker 1: apology on the behalf of the New South Wales government
Speaker 1: for ever having laws that criminalized homosexuality. I think this
Speaker 1: is a really important thing because those laws never should
Speaker 1: have existed, the people who got punished under them never
Speaker 1: should have been punished, and there are still people to
Speaker 1: this day, who of course lived with the trauma of
Speaker 1: either being directly affected by those laws or knowing people
Speaker 1: who were directly affected. So I wanted to give him
Speaker 1: the moment in the sun here that this is a
Speaker 1: country that not only is able to be aware of
Speaker 1: the mistakes that it's made in the past, but push
Speaker 1: those mistakes out of the way, but also to try
Speaker 1: to heal some of those mistakes. We do have these
Speaker 1: little moments of public apologies. This was Chris Men's doing
Speaker 1: that in the Parliament in New South Wales last week.
Speaker 6: Forty years ago, the New South Wales ended the legal
Speaker 6: criminalization of homosexuality in this state. And here today as
Speaker 6: a parliament and as a state, as people who want
Speaker 6: to make good, were he to apologize for every life
Speaker 6: that was damaged or diminished or destroyed by these unjust laws.
Speaker 1: Good, excellent. The reaction to it was pretty obvious.
Speaker 7: It's wonderful. I think we're very lucky. We deserve it.
Speaker 7: It's just a shame we're the last state to have it.
Speaker 7: But I won't get negative. But yeah, no, it's a
Speaker 7: great it's very we're very happy.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about Trump and what's been happening. In
Speaker 1: the United States, because there's plenty to talk about right now,
Speaker 1: including as we know, Donald Trumps been found guilty thirty
Speaker 1: four different charges. Will he or when he go to jail.
Speaker 1: We'll all find out four days before the Republican Convention
Speaker 1: next month. But if he does go to jail, as
Speaker 1: I've told you before, he won't have a cell mate.
Speaker 1: He of course will end up with a secret service
Speaker 1: on the outside the doors. He won't be like a
Speaker 1: normal prisoner. He will be bored, silly, but he will
Speaker 1: be quite uncole safe from the average prisoner experience. But
Speaker 1: some lefties would prefer that he had the normal experience
Speaker 1: behind jail, and I think this is gross.
Speaker 4: And luck with all the talk now about Trump possibly
Speaker 4: going to jail, we've all been doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on and start on Trump.
Speaker 4: Given the opportunity, it's natural to want to imagine him getting.
Speaker 1: Really Now, do I think you should be canceled?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Do I think you show should disappear?
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: But the idea of that level of Trump arrangement syndrome
Speaker 1: that even somebody you'd dislike, for what particular political reason,
Speaker 1: you think they should be sexually assaulted, Come on, that
Speaker 1: is the ultimate version of this week's expression of Trump
Speaker 1: derangement syndrome disgraceful. Now this weekend, the former president has
Speaker 1: held rallies in Arizona and in Nevada too, swing states.
Speaker 1: He absolutely needs to win. And I'll tell you in
Speaker 1: the second how the polls are starting to look. Remember
Speaker 1: the fifty states, there are only seven that generally change hands,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you how he's going with those seven.
Speaker 1: But there's some surprising people that are coming out and
Speaker 1: are now endorsing Donald Trump. Rapper fifty cent has decided
Speaker 1: to come out and say he's going to back Trump.
Speaker 1: I think she's technically a model, but there's a shir
Speaker 1: called Amber Rose Google quite popular apparently. Anyway, she interestingly
Speaker 1: said this to TMZ because it speaks to many people.
Speaker 1: Apparently in the African African American community. You have said,
Speaker 1: you know what, just because I'm black, I don't have
Speaker 1: to vote for Joe Biden.
Speaker 5: Does him getting convicted like change the way you know him?
Speaker 6: Not at all?
Speaker 3: I mean, do you think you'll all this chance is
Speaker 3: like getting like re elected or like you'll I think.
Speaker 8: It helps him more?
Speaker 5: Oh it actually?
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I think people see the injustice and what happened,
Speaker 8: and they want to work with him more than ever.
Speaker 3: I know, I wanted to ask you, so it seems
Speaker 3: like a lot of celebrities are kind of like voting
Speaker 3: for Trump.
Speaker 8: Now, I mean, why do you think people are kind
Speaker 8: of like shading their way of Like I think we're
Speaker 8: just we just did our research and we're just you know,
Speaker 8: we're not greenwashed anymore by the left.
Speaker 1: Don't you love the friend just vaping? Just you know whatever.
Speaker 1: Continue on meantime, latest poles, let's have a look at
Speaker 1: this here, So about the swing states that matter. One
Speaker 1: of those swing states is Florida. Now, Florida's kind of
Speaker 1: in a red state presidentially for some time. But remember
Speaker 1: it was a place that I told you before. Some
Speaker 1: of their abortion laws may end up flipping it back
Speaker 1: towards the Blue team. Guess what, No not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Why because fifty percent of people say that the matter
Speaker 1: involving him being found guilty doesn't really change their opinion
Speaker 1: at all when it comes to how they're going to vote,
Speaker 1: and how they're going to vote is forty seven percent
Speaker 1: for Trump, forty percent for Biden. And based off every
Speaker 1: pole that I've seen, if anyone wants to tell you
Speaker 1: that Robert F. Kennedy Junior takes votes away from Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: They're not paying attention currently. It seems they're coming straight
Speaker 1: off the Democrat Which means, as for those seven states
Speaker 1: that actually matter, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: and Nevada, Trump is leading everywhere. Wisconsin, let's call that
Speaker 1: a statistical tie. Let's say the same about Michigan. Well,
Speaker 1: if he was able to win everything that's pretty big
Speaker 1: on this list, like Nevada, North Carolina, Arizona, or Georgia,
Speaker 1: he'd win the presidency. He'd be pretty safe once you
Speaker 1: start to get into places like Pennsylvania. But I don't
Speaker 1: know whether that's going to be the case or not. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we follow the data, we have the opinions as well.
Speaker 1: James Ashby, Nicole Flint for the rest of the hour,
Speaker 1: Let's continue this Sunday night by chatting to our mates
Speaker 1: about things that matter and having a giggle along the way.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're with us, Thanks so much for watching.
Speaker 1: How's this for somebodies on a Sunday night? Note other
Speaker 1: than our dear friends. James Ashby is running for the
Speaker 1: seat of Keppel for one Nation in the upcoming Queensland election.
Speaker 1: Go boy go, and running of course for the seat
Speaker 1: of boothby double her Israeli flag pins. This evening is
Speaker 1: none other than the wonderful Nicole Flint. You're all inmate,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 7: I'm very well.
Speaker 9: I thought we should just acknowledge the wonderful news that
Speaker 9: four hostages have been rescued, which is quite incredible after
Speaker 9: such a period of time.
Speaker 1: Bloody oath, bloody oath. All right, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: apparent change of the coalition's position when it comes to
Speaker 1: the Paris Agreement. James, I'll start with you again. I'm
Speaker 1: going to wait and see. I don't want I'm not
Speaker 1: going to rely on the Greens interpretation of a couple
Speaker 1: of lines in an interview. I'm going to wait for
Speaker 1: whatever an announcement might be. I think that many people
Speaker 1: watching right now would say, yeah, tear the damn thing up.
Speaker 1: But what do you think the political consequence of it is?
Speaker 10: Well, Peter Dutton's got the right approach here. Finally I
Speaker 10: can actually say I can see something that Peter Dutton
Speaker 10: stands for. He's taken a very strong and principled approach
Speaker 10: here we know that we're not going to meet these
Speaker 10: targets that have been set by his predecess of the past.
Speaker 10: Both Scott, Morrison, Turnbull and Abbott have all played a role,
Speaker 10: and of course signing us up to the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 10: The problem that a lot of people at home probably
Speaker 10: don't realize every country's Paris Agreement is different. So Australias
Speaker 10: is completely different in New Zealand, it's completely different to
Speaker 10: Canada and every other country across the globe. So we've
Speaker 10: signed up one of the worst. What I wish that
Speaker 10: Peter Dutton would come out and say in the next
Speaker 10: few days is he's just completely out of the UN altogether,
Speaker 10: let alone just the Paris Agreement. Say look, it's a
Speaker 10: great first move. I think he's on the right path.
Speaker 10: He may not have said those words exactly, but I
Speaker 10: think he's certainly singing the right sound and I can
Speaker 10: certainly back that. One nation can certainly back it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nicole, I mentioned you and Boothby is one of
Speaker 1: the ten seats that are the most vulnerable for labor
Speaker 1: right now. Would getting out of the Paris Accord help
Speaker 1: or hurt when you are talking to the people that
Speaker 1: you need to change their mind to go back to
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party after they went to the Labor Party
Speaker 1: at the last one.
Speaker 9: Well, the question here is actually how on earth are
Speaker 9: Labor planning to meet their target because Chris Bowen really
Speaker 9: can't tell us which industries are going to suffer. Is
Speaker 9: he going to inflict more pain on farmers? Is he
Speaker 9: going to shut down manufacturing? Is he going to stop
Speaker 9: exporting coal to China? We've just seen something like record
Speaker 9: exports of coal to China which support twenty five thousand
Speaker 9: jobs in New South Wales alone. We've seen recently Labor
Speaker 9: come out and say, oh look no, we acknowledge that
Speaker 9: actually we're going to need gas into the future if
Speaker 9: we want to guarantee baseload power supply. So the people
Speaker 9: who have the most questions to answer here are the
Speaker 9: Labor Party, the Coalition, and Peter Dutton and Ted O'Brien,
Speaker 9: to their great credit, have said we need to have
Speaker 9: a very serious conversation about nuclear because if we want
Speaker 9: to meet twenty fifty targets, then nuclear has to be
Speaker 9: part of that solution to getting to net zero by
Speaker 9: twenty fifty. So I think what we're saying and very
Speaker 9: responsible and very honest statements from Peter Dutton as opposed
Speaker 9: to the creative fantasies that we keep hearing from people
Speaker 9: like Chris Bowen as to how they think that they
Speaker 9: are going to get to these targets by twenty thirty.
Speaker 1: See, I'm with you about how there are big questions
Speaker 1: about how we get twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: those three years which would be the three that are
Speaker 1: up for debate at the next federal election. How they
Speaker 1: are going to supercharge now for one of a better thing.
Speaker 1: The easy options have all been taken, right, But of
Speaker 1: course emissions aren't just about the electricity grid. It's about
Speaker 1: everything from transport to you name it, right agriculture, and
Speaker 1: this government would clearly start to supercharge after that next election. Now, obviously, James,
Speaker 1: this is a thing that people in the suburbs. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't know how. We'll all wait and see how
Speaker 1: this debate runs and who ends up winning and whether
Speaker 1: the cost of insert change will be enough for people
Speaker 1: to change their minds. But labor people were saying today
Speaker 1: that they basically believe, you know, this thing is settled.
Speaker 1: Policy game over once you fiddle with this, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like trying to cancel a school day or something.
Speaker 1: It's some sort of great change that the Australian people
Speaker 1: will not accept. Why would you disagree with their spin?
Speaker 10: Well, Peter Dutton has more than just the Labor Party
Speaker 10: to contend with.
Speaker 5: He's also got his state counterparts.
Speaker 10: And here in Queensland, David Chris fully who's the state
Speaker 10: leader of the LMP, here back labor legislation to lock
Speaker 10: in net zero by twenty fifty and we're still by
Speaker 10: twenty thirty five, not carbon emissions down by seventy five percent.
Speaker 10: That's been legislated by someone within his own state Liberal
Speaker 10: National Party. So Peter's not only got challenges from the
Speaker 10: Opposition and the Greens when he returns to the Lower House,
Speaker 10: but he's also got those problems within his own state.
Speaker 5: David Christi fully doesn't support nuclear here for Queensland. Again,
Speaker 5: another challenge that Peter Dutton's got to face.
Speaker 10: So he's going to have a bit of competition here
Speaker 10: from those within his own ranks. But I say to Peter,
Speaker 10: put on a brave face, have the argument with your
Speaker 10: own people and have it with the rest of the country,
Speaker 10: because we can't continue paying three hundred thousand dollars in
Speaker 10: compensation to farmers per kilometer for these new high transmission
Speaker 10: cables that have got to go across farms.
Speaker 5: Can't happen.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry with you, so with you all right. Peter
Speaker 1: Costello decided to stand down as a boss of Channel
Speaker 1: nine today or would I stay the nine entertainment group
Speaker 1: because they have radio and newspapers and lots of other stuff.
Speaker 1: He says that he was apparently planning to do this,
Speaker 1: but he was going to wait till the free tickets
Speaker 1: after the Paris Olympics. He's been around as the boss
Speaker 1: of the Joy since twenty sixteen, when, of course it
Speaker 1: was just the TV station. He added radio and the
Speaker 1: newspapers as well on top of all of that. But
Speaker 1: we of course know why it has become what it
Speaker 1: has become. After the moment at Canberra Airport involving the
Speaker 1: Australian Reporter on Thursday. Now, remember he said there was
Speaker 1: nothing to see here. He said there'd be no change
Speaker 1: to his chairmanship. Well, when you're announcing that you're quitting,
Speaker 1: as Joe Hildebrand said on a Sunday in the middle
Speaker 1: of a three day public holiday, it probably wasn't your choice, Nicole. Again,
Speaker 1: you know him as a political figure, But does it
Speaker 1: make obvious sense that the line ran out and he
Speaker 1: decided to go before he was planning to go if
Speaker 1: he wasn't pushed.
Speaker 9: Look, anytime the media or a METEA organization become the
Speaker 9: story rather than reporting the stories, clearly some changes need
Speaker 9: to need.
Speaker 8: To be made.
Speaker 9: And look, I just think this is all terribly disappointing
Speaker 9: to see Peter Costello, who is one of the greatest
Speaker 9: treasurers that our nation has ever seen, an incredible contributor
Speaker 9: to the Liberal Party. Obviously, to leave his role in
Speaker 9: such circumstances is really disappointing. And look, I hope they
Speaker 9: get to the bottom of what happened to the reporter
Speaker 9: at the airport, because everyone deserves to be safe and
Speaker 9: respected when they're doing their job. You know, I'm not
Speaker 9: suggesting what did or didn't happen, because clearly we weren't
Speaker 9: there and we don't know. So I hope that is
Speaker 9: resolved in due course. But I don't see that mister
Speaker 9: Costello had any choice but to probably step down as
Speaker 9: he has.
Speaker 1: Look, they might lose my bags for saying this, but jeez,
Speaker 1: Canberra Airport apparently must work public service hours. Has no
Speaker 1: one got access to the CCTV. They could have pulled
Speaker 1: it out on Friday and just shown us what was
Speaker 1: going on, but of course they haven't. And I do
Speaker 1: find what I found particularly interesting about all of this, James,
Speaker 1: was you had s pockets of media world who kind
Speaker 1: of wouldn't really talk about it because there was you know,
Speaker 1: people from one newspaper and all of this stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: But now it's a scenario where clearly it's been ruled
Speaker 1: the wrong. Look all the rest of the time to
Speaker 1: get out of the way. What do you think.
Speaker 5: I'm just spiwn this didn't happen on Tuesday.
Speaker 10: I had it marked in my calendar to buy Channel
Speaker 10: nine shares on Tuesday because I could see this was coming.
Speaker 5: It was just he did it too early. I'm so upset.
Speaker 10: I reckon there's a twenty percent jump coming Wednesday, Paul,
Speaker 10: or at least Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Anyway.
Speaker 10: Well, look he's been under pressure for a few days.
Speaker 10: Ever since James Packers sort of called him out. There
Speaker 10: has been problems at Channel nine. Look what happened at
Speaker 10: the airport. You could tell he was under immense pressure.
Speaker 10: He snapped it was always going to wind this way?
Speaker 5: Sadly?
Speaker 1: Can I ask both of you unrelated to this one, right,
Speaker 1: but both of you have had the cameras in your face,
Speaker 1: both of you have had the people chasing you because
Speaker 1: they didn't like whatever your response was to whatever. I
Speaker 1: just want to ask, as people, how do you handle that?
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you handle when they're maybe outside
Speaker 1: your house, like it's not a press conference, there's sort
Speaker 1: of nowhere to go again, James, do you give them
Speaker 1: what they want because then they go away? Or do
Speaker 1: you play a different game, like what do you do
Speaker 1: when they're for whatever reason, you're the story and the
Speaker 1: people who hate you the most won't leave you alone
Speaker 1: until you cry tears of sorry.
Speaker 5: I'm the worst one to ask here.
Speaker 10: I made the same mistake as Peter Costill I did
Speaker 10: in my in the in the start of my career.
Speaker 10: I grabbed the journal as fine and through it. So
Speaker 10: I'm not the one to ask you. I have learned
Speaker 10: over time, right, Nicole, You've had yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've ever plenty of pressure in certainly
Speaker 1: political thugs and disgraceful behavior come your way. But but
Speaker 1: what do you do when for whatever reason, you're the story.
Speaker 1: Do you do? You do? You just try to jump
Speaker 1: on the radio as soon as possible so then the
Speaker 1: hamers don't turn out. But we kind of live in
Speaker 1: this world now where I always love in Parliament House.
Speaker 1: So if somebody comes and does like an interview on
Speaker 1: Sky News in the morning, clearly they've said something. It's
Speaker 1: out there. Everyone can take the tape and show it
Speaker 1: on their news. But because they don't want to show
Speaker 1: the little logo of the TV station that's not theirs,
Speaker 1: they all run and talk to you in the hallway
Speaker 1: outside the studio where you've just given the interview. So
Speaker 1: what do you do?
Speaker 9: Well, stay away from the press gallery, I guess if
Speaker 9: you're in Parliament House because there are very strict rules
Speaker 9: about where they are and aren't allowed to film you
Speaker 9: in Parliament for good reason.
Speaker 7: That's right.
Speaker 9: But look, Paul, I mean I think this sort of
Speaker 9: works both ways. Look, I can say during twenty nineteen
Speaker 9: it was pretty ugly in terms of me being chased
Speaker 9: around by camera cruise, especially when you've got the full
Speaker 9: press pack. That can be quite challenging, but they're sh
Speaker 9: In an ideal world there would be a line, especially
Speaker 9: when it.
Speaker 5: Involves people homes.
Speaker 9: But we see it time and time again where the
Speaker 9: press do turn up where you know, in a perfect
Speaker 9: world they shouldn't be. Keep it to people's workplaces, keep
Speaker 9: it to I guess, the public realm.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 9: I always try and stay calm and polite and say
Speaker 9: you give them a few lines and then hope that
Speaker 9: you're allowed to move on with your day and doing
Speaker 9: your job.
Speaker 1: Bloody aeth. All right, let's talk about a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff, including bold predictions for the weekend in a
Speaker 1: moment or tuesd time here on Paul Marriray Life. Thanks
Speaker 1: so watching us this Sunday night. Of course we'll be
Speaker 1: here Holiday Monday or not Holiday Monday, of course in
Speaker 1: the act, because you had reconciliation a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's a pup a holiday
Speaker 1: in Tasmoni because you had recreation. But that was just
Speaker 1: for the south of the country, of the state, not
Speaker 1: the top, because that's regarded cinema. My two mates are
Speaker 1: here play to get to including a bold prediction for
Speaker 1: the week ahead Royal report less than ten minutes away
Speaker 1: from now James Ashby, of course, who is running for
Speaker 1: the seat of Keppel in the Queensland Parliament. Get rid
Speaker 1: of that government. Please get rid of the government. Please
Speaker 1: get rid of that government. Of course he's there under
Speaker 1: the one Nation banner and the lovely NI Cooflin is
Speaker 1: under liberal banner. Please get rid of the Labor Party. Please.
Speaker 1: You get the point. And they said that booth me
Speaker 1: you back them and backed them good and hard between
Speaker 1: now and their respective elections. So I mentioned before latest
Speaker 1: polls and more polls showing us that post conviction, nothing's
Speaker 1: really changed when it comes to Trump. Now, Nicola will
Speaker 1: start with you, why do you think the needle doesn't move? Now?
Speaker 1: I understand why Republicans won't move. Like the hard course,
Speaker 1: they're all in. It doesn't matter. Literally the Fifth Avenue
Speaker 1: thing was true, doesn't matter. But we kept being told
Speaker 1: on you know, the independence they might not back a
Speaker 1: guy who's been convicted, and suburban women might, but nothing's moved.
Speaker 9: Why Because I think the more that the Democrats attack
Speaker 9: Donald Trump, the more it annoys people. For some reason
Speaker 9: they seem to be it seems to help him. Every
Speaker 9: single time they launch another co case or you know,
Speaker 9: run another nasty story in the media. It seems to
Speaker 9: just help him and strengthen him further. I don't know why.
Speaker 9: I can't explain I can't explain it, but it's actually
Speaker 9: it's backfiring. Whatever the Democrats are trying to do or
Speaker 9: anyone else is trying to do, it backfires. Maybe because
Speaker 9: people love to see a batler and a fighter, and
Speaker 9: that's certainly what Donald Trump is.
Speaker 1: I think there is a boy who Cried Wolf kind
Speaker 1: of element about it too. I mean, the Democrats have
Speaker 1: been at eleven since twenty fifteen, right, and they've just
Speaker 1: they've broken the button trying to get it to twelve
Speaker 1: and thirteen and threat to democracy. And if you compare
Speaker 1: this and you compare that, he's hitler, and I just
Speaker 1: don't think that normal people, certainly in those swing states care.
Speaker 1: I think that American politics in particular is about reject
Speaker 1: the guy who's currently there because nothing ever gets better,
Speaker 1: and currently that works for Trump as opposed to in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty when he had to defend a record.
Speaker 10: What do you think, James, Well, the other fact is
Speaker 10: that the president can't hide this election because last time,
Speaker 10: you know, we were sort of coming out of that
Speaker 10: COVID period.
Speaker 5: They locked him away.
Speaker 10: He resolved in the Crepid then, and that was the
Speaker 10: excuse was COVID might get him and kill him. Well,
Speaker 10: as president, no COVID anymore. He's out there for the
Speaker 10: public to judge him every single time he gets in
Speaker 10: front of a microphone, and some of the things that
Speaker 10: are coming out of his mouth at the moment just.
Speaker 5: Don't make sense.
Speaker 10: He's still continuing to trip over, he falls asleep in meetings.
Speaker 10: More and more people are talking about the fact that
Speaker 10: when they meet with him, he's not cognitive. So when
Speaker 10: you've got only two choices, Donald Trump is by far
Speaker 10: the best choice at this upcoming election.
Speaker 1: I do want to get to the predictions, but before then,
Speaker 1: the Queensland budget is literally going from surplus to deficit
Speaker 1: as they try to buy their way to another election.
Speaker 1: The South Australian government has just found a fistful of
Speaker 1: money to throw at people to help with the cost
Speaker 1: of living. But it definitely won't be inflation. Ring to
Speaker 1: both of you, the concept of buying all right, Sometimes
Speaker 1: it can seem skillful, sometimes it just seems desperate. Queenslanders
Speaker 1: must be so burning with rage, James that they are
Speaker 1: just you're seeing it up against the wall and it
Speaker 1: won't change anything that's going to happen in late October.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Miles is like a lotto winner.
Speaker 10: You often hear about these people that win huge amounts
Speaker 10: of money and within a couple of years they're broke
Speaker 10: because they've never known how to manage money to start with,
Speaker 10: they've never made it themselves, so therefore they burn a hole.
Speaker 5: In their pocket just spending it.
Speaker 10: And see, we've had a huge amount of benefit from
Speaker 10: increases to stamp duties because property price has gone through
Speaker 10: the roof. Insurance properties have gone through the roof, so
Speaker 10: both of those have got massive amounts of stamp duty attached.
Speaker 10: They've got a living hell out of our mining companies
Speaker 10: here in Queensland, so they've got fifteen billion dollars to
Speaker 10: spend their of extra royalties. But what have we got
Speaker 10: for it, Well, we've got more potholes in the road.
Speaker 10: I've got another chip in the winds in over the weekend.
Speaker 10: And just because he's going to drop twenty percent off
Speaker 10: the rate of registration means we're also probably going to
Speaker 10: see a drop in road works that are done to
Speaker 10: try and improve our states.
Speaker 5: So it's not going to work. Of course, people are going.
Speaker 10: To take the discounts and the handouts, but at the
Speaker 10: end of the day, are they going to vote for him?
Speaker 5: I hope, like hell they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I got about twenty seconds, Nicole. So
Speaker 1: your version about what they're doing INESSA, Oh well.
Speaker 9: Look it's exactly the same. And giving us a couple
Speaker 9: of hundred dollars off your power bill. Well, power prices
Speaker 9: haven't gone down, and so getting back to you know,
Speaker 9: Chris Bowen's emissions target and things like that, power prices
Speaker 9: keep going up, they will continue to and giving us
Speaker 9: hard paid tax dollars back is ridiculous when the actual
Speaker 9: price of power isn't going down.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, perfectly timed. Thank you so much. You
Speaker 1: can host the show anytime you want to, Goal James,
Speaker 1: you can co host too, Why not. It's one of
Speaker 1: those shows. Anyway. My plan is to be back tomorrow night, though,
Speaker 1: so I'll be hosting All Murray Life. I have a
Speaker 1: great night, h