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Speaker 1: But a lot of people commenting on that. Try being

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Speaker 1: a truckie, says this person going through. Yes, they indicate early,

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Speaker 1: so you think they're turning and then cop abuse when

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Speaker 1: suggestion from the RAA, from their road Safety round table

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Speaker 1: before renewing our license. And I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: bad idea. To be honest, you might say, oh God,

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Speaker 1: knowing the road rules. And all the cases of road rage,

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Speaker 1: it's got to stem from people just not knowing what

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Speaker 1: they're doing, doesn't it. Maybe Matt Vshude, Senior traffic engineer

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Speaker 1: at the RAA Morning, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: So okay, where do you go with this? This came

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Speaker 1: out of the road at the round table and was

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Speaker 1: it a roundabout round table? Did people have to indicate

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Speaker 2: Should have clarified that before entering the room.

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Speaker 1: That's right? So all right, you came up with this suggestion.

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Speaker 1: What's the reasoning behind that? Why should people have to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess throughout our discussions it was found.

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Speaker 2: as you discuss roundabout to one of those points. You

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Speaker 2: came out of those discussions was, well what can be done?

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Speaker 2: So where we look at you know, say the driving career.

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Speaker 2: You've got a lot of education, as you should from

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Speaker 2: And as we know, the road rules don't stay the

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Speaker 1: I'm interested also in the one about wearing earphones and headphones,

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Speaker 1: This is all part of trying to get to our

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, So we were definitely and you know,

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Speaker 2: track to meet our road safety strategy targets. Are twenty

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Speaker 1: Is it doable really though when we're increasing the population.

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Speaker 2: Also things like speed limits. You know, we do have

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Speaker 1: Signage would be one thing, wouldn't it too, I mean,

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Speaker 1: legally you're doing fifty. The person saying the log truck

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, signs can definitely make a big difference, and

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Speaker 1: Well but see, and I appreciate what you've said, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And in that situation, especially you know, leaving

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mind you, it's only a handful of CA's before

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Speaker 1: the lower speeds on backstreets, you're considering that as well

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Speaker 1: Indeed, so your recommendations now from the roundtable do they

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Speaker 1: go to the government, what happens next?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So these recommendations have been sent to the government

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Speaker 2: you know, that's really to get discussion happening as we're

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Speaker 2: having today, Matthew, to talk about you know, what can

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Speaker 2: what the changes and the rules have been and perhaps

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Speaker 2: what those commonly misinterpreted ones are. Because boy do we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you do. It's got to be a

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Speaker 1: big area. We should do a regular segment, matt where

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Speaker 1: just takes questions, but maybe we'll talk about that off air.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, good on you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Matt Verdouchees from the RAA seeing traffic engineer their round

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Speaker 1: Table recommendations released, which includes all license holders undertaking and

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Speaker 1: every time I need it