1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: On scolds Australia. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panney Show. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, Melbourne labeled cold, broke and a terrible 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 4: place to invest. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 3: I'll speak to Nick Kata about that. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 4: Shortly, Professor Ian Plymer on Matt Keane's latest. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Claims about nuclear energy. 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 4: We'll also have the latest from the US with Army Horowitz, 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 4: including just how much more the Democrats are spending than 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 4: the Trump campaign and later in the hour he is 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 4: an absolute gem. We're thrilled to have Alex Epstein. He 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: had to fact check some of the boldest lies told 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 4: by mitzero activists and of course left he's losing it. 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 5: What's more dangerous? Straight white conservative men or axe murderers? 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: A straight white conservative man? 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 5: Why is he more dangerous? 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Because they're capable of doing anything. 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: They're crazy. 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 5: We'll make them crazy. 21 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: They're wait. 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: But first, King Charles and Queen Camilla's royal to where 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: of Australia has come to an end. 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: They farewelled Sydney this morning. 25 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 4: Crowds have flocked to us see the royal couple during 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: their visits to Canberra and Sydney. During their final full 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: day in Australia, the King and Queen took part in 28 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: a community barbecue in Parramatta before heading over to the 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: Sydney Opera House, where they were greeted by hundreds of fans. 30 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: They observed a military display around Sydney. 31 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: Harbor, and after being on her feet for almost the 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: entire day, Queen Camilla was seen carrying her heels as 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: she returned to Admiralty House barefoot. You've got to love that. 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 4: She should have stayed on for the Melbourne Cup. That's 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: what all the ladies do there. The visit, as we know, 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: was not without controversy. We'll discuss Lydia Thorpe a little 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: more later, but there was also that damage, and there 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: has been a development there with a man being charged 39 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: with malicious damage after Sydney's iconic Queen Victoria statue was 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: defaced with red pain. 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: Let's get a senior fellow. 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: At the Menzies Research Center, Nick Kater, into her discuss 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 4: the latest news of the day. 44 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: Nick. 45 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: Lydia Thorpe did certainly still many of the headlines during 46 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: this royal tour. What were your feelings about King Charles 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: and Queen Kimilla. 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 6: I was smitten. I have to say, Rita, I was 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 6: in the crowd on Sunday looking at them from a 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 6: great distance. As close as I got. I didn't get 51 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 6: to meet the King or the Queen, but look, I 52 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 6: think it was terrific they were here. I mean for 53 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 6: those of us. In fact, I guess almost everybody who's 54 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 6: watching this program would only have known one monarch, and 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 6: that was Queen Elizabeth. And we all were nervous about 56 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 6: the transition of power, how that would go, because we've 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: never seen it before, but it's gone seamlessly. And to 58 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 6: have King here, the King here, was just to put 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 6: the stamp on that. So I'm very much grateful that 60 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 6: his Majesty came. And you're hearing from a convinced royalist. 61 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 6: Jim mononkis chair, Rita, So I'm afraid that's about the 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 6: best I can say. 63 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm interested in your thoughts on Senator Lydia 64 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: Thorpe because her antics are still being debated and criticized, 65 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: as I her demands, because it wasn't just a stunt. 66 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: She does have a list. 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: Of demands she once met. 68 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: And she has been criticized for being an enthusiastic participant 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 4: a beneficiary of the system she claims to hate. And 70 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: not only is she senator in the Australian Parliament on 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: her healthy salary, fantastic benefits, but she's also a regular 72 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: nick in the ultra exclusive quantus Chairman's Lounge. Now, how 73 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: does she reconcile that with her thoughts on Australia. 74 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 6: Well, you've got to remember, Rita that the Chairman's Club 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 6: always was and always will be ourboriginal land, sovereignty, never 76 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 6: seed it. So it's actually lucky that she. 77 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 7: Lets the rest of us in it. 78 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 6: Course. But look, I mean, I'm really astounded that the 79 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 6: Senate cannot get together and vote her out because she 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: did take a loyal oath when she came into office, 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 6: all bit through gritted teeth, to the Sovereign, to the Crown, 82 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 6: and she's clearly disobeyed that and clearly shown that she 83 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 6: didn't mean that one inch by her outrageous behavior on 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 6: the in this week. I mean, this very unkempt, unprincipled 85 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 6: woman stands up and starts screaming senities at the King, 86 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 6: and she is a member of our Parliament. I'm embarrassed 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 6: by that, quite frankly, and I think the Senate. I'm 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 6: surprised that the Senate doesn't seem to think it's got 89 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 6: the powers to actually get her out or make her 90 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 6: accountable for that, because they should. 91 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: Now. 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: I know she's got plenty of criticism, and rightly so, 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: but I do think she will see this week as 94 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 4: a win. She has had enormous coverage overseas, particularly in 95 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: the British media, and there'll be plenty of Republicans here 96 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: who might quietly agree with some of her points, which 97 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: tells you more about them. I guess now I'm going 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: to play some painful footage. Painful for Victorians. 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: Nick. 100 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: Here are some folk in Glasgow telling Harold Sun reporter 101 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: knew he just how happy they are that long suffering 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: Victorian taxpayers are paying for their Commonwealth games. 103 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 6: We've been executive the opportunity and how to develop the 104 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 6: people testity. 105 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, together, it's give them the place a little buzz here. 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: I'm really exciting to have something actually in Scotland than 107 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: something to travel elsewhere. 108 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: I think it's very good for the city. Most of 109 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: that quet number of people about to visit the city. 110 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: That's pretty bringing for an income. 111 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it'll be great for them. 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm sure it'll be fantastic to have all the tourists 113 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: and the locals enjoying the Commonwealth. 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: Games that we've paid for. 115 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: Victorians have played around six hundred million in total, and 116 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: around two hundred million of that going to Glasgow to 117 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 4: actually hold the games. 118 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: The state's not in a good place, Nick. 119 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 6: No, it's not, you said the introduction of the show's 120 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 6: cold and broke and unbankable, and it's certainly cold. I 121 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 6: always find it cold, and I was either whether not 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 6: being too kind you down there at the moment. And 123 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: it's got one hundred and fifty six billion dollars state 124 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 6: debt and that's going to rise to almost one hundred 125 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 6: and ninety billion by twenty twenty eight. And no wonder 126 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 6: because they keep throwing money around like confetti and then 127 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 6: end up you know, oh they decided they didn't want 128 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 6: the games after all, but they've still got to pay 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: money to Scotland. It's disgraceful. And you know, Dan Andrews 130 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 6: is the mystery to me is anybody ever voted for him? 131 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 6: But plainly people down there there did. Perhaps the cold 132 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 6: gets to their heads or something. But you know, he 133 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 6: is what he is and I just think that which 134 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 6: is desperate for an opposition that can turn itself open 135 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 6: to a government, well, I. 136 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: Think you just hit the nail on the head. 137 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 4: Then he got re elected, not only because he was 138 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: a skillful politician, but he had no opposition. And I 139 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: think people look at Victorians like were some sort of 140 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: a freak show. 141 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: But when you've got a. 142 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: Completely spineless, principleless hopeless opposition, then you do have the 143 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: other side elected quite easily. Now, one of Australia's top 144 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: property developers, him Gerner, has weighed in on Victoria's housing 145 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: crisis and the dire state of Melbourne. He told the 146 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: Australian Financial Review that the strong consensus in other states 147 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: is that Victoria is broke, it's cold, and your property 148 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: prices don't go up. 149 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 3: While would you invest in Melbourne when there's been next. 150 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: To zero capital growth and the state has a massive 151 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: debt problem. But Nick Gernar is supportive of the stamp 152 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: duty discount being offered by the just to Alan government, 153 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: saying it'd give investors a reason to consider the city again. 154 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: But I've got to say I'm going to disagree. I 155 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: think this is an absolute travesty. I wrote about this 156 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: in Today's Herald's Son The entire scheme seems to be 157 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: hair braining these towers that are going to be building 158 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: along train stations, but just on this stamp duty discount. 159 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: It's just so unfair. 160 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: On the face of it, a family buying a brand new, 161 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: modestly priced house and land package out in the suburbs 162 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: to live in white qualify for that discount. But you 163 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 4: might have someone who's buying a penthouse off the plan 164 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: for three million dollars that they plan to rent out 165 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: and they will qualify for the discounts. It seems to 166 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: be designed just to entice people to buy off the 167 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: plan apartments, something that hasn't been a fantastic investment in 168 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: recent years. 169 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 6: Nick, Yeah, yeah, I mean that's right. Land Act is 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 6: incredibly unfair form of taxation. All forms of taxation are 171 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 6: unfair in my view, but this is particularly unfair because 172 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 6: you're taxing people on unrealized capital gains essentially, and as 173 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 6: you're right in saying that if you build a sixty 174 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 6: story tail block, if you were to build such a 175 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 6: thing in Melbourne and stick lots of apartments in there, 176 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 6: the land tax per unit to be relatively low. But 177 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 6: if you've got an elderly person who's living in the 178 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 6: family home or they've got a boarder investment property out 179 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 6: there in the suburbs on a quarter acre block of land, 180 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 6: then they're in for real, real trouble. And it does 181 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 6: punish people very hard, people that have script and saved 182 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 6: to pay off them more it is get themselves a 183 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 6: property or investment property. They're the ones being punished by this, 184 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 6: and it's just a very unfair way of doing it. 185 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 6: Stamp duty is not great, by the way, but this 186 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 6: is not the way to get rid of stamp duty. 187 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: This is just a scheme that they're introducing to make 189 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: it more attractive to buy of the plan, but it 190 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: doesn't extend to buying off the plan for a house. 191 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: It's only really for units apartments. And they're going to 192 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: nick by building these towers on train stations across Melbourne 193 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: without consultation, without much of a planning process, so they're 194 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: going to completely change the character of those suburbs. And 195 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: the locals have invested and have got their home as 196 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: their biggest investment or obviously fairly irate about that. And 197 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: it's not a surprise most of those train stations are 198 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: in liberal areas, not that there's that many of them 199 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: left in the city. 200 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: Now. I'm interested in a piece. 201 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: You wrote for The Australian newspaper about the real reasons 202 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 4: behind Australia's declining birth rate. Australian National University demographer Is 203 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 4: Alan told the Sydney Morning Herald that it's housing affordability, 204 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: economic insecurity, gender inequality and climate boiling. That's the reason. 205 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: But you point the birth rate has been falling since 206 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty nine, when the average house in Sydney was 207 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 4: less than ten thousand dollars in today's money one hundred 208 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: and eighty two thousand dollars in today's money ten thousand 209 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: dollars back then. So what is the real reason behind 210 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: our birth rate plumbating? 211 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 6: Well, serious democracies really can't tell you because there's so 212 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 6: many factors here. It is possible that housing may deter 213 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 6: people to some extent from having children, but it's far 214 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 6: from the only reason, because when you look at it, 215 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 6: this is a trend that's been going on since the 216 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 6: late fifties early sixties in the entire world. Right even 217 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 6: in places like Thailand, they are now way below our 218 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 6: birth rate and way below replacement level, even though they 219 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 6: had a birth rate of six in the nineteen sixties. 220 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 6: So everywhere except Sub Saharan Africa, birth rates have fall 221 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 6: and off a cliff and are continuing to fall. And 222 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 6: so contrary to what the environmentalists have been telling us 223 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 6: for the last fifty years that were in trouble because 224 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 6: there's too many people, the fact is there's too few people. 225 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 6: That's a real problem. And there's a problem with obviously 226 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 6: assuredage of labor around the world, not just here. And 227 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: it seems to me extraordinary that so few serious politicians 228 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 6: or policymakers have even mentioned this, let alone worked out 229 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 6: what we do about it, because we have got to 230 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 6: do something about it, sooner or later. We can't keep 231 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 6: making up for it in immigration. 232 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: Well, that seems to be the fix, isn't it. That's 233 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: the band Aida method that they have used. We did 234 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 4: have that have a baby for the country under the 235 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 4: Howard government, didn't we We had the baby bonus and Peter 236 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: Costello remember that work picture with him with all the 237 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: newborn babies that did work. 238 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: We saw a bit of a spike there they were. 239 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 7: I do like it. 240 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 6: Hung Yeah, a spike that came off at about twenty 241 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 6: ten it started to decline again. 242 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. I do like Hungry's approach. 243 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: They give a massive lifetime discount to mothers for the 244 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: number of babies that have So if you have one child, 245 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 4: twenty five percent discount of your income tax for life. 246 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: If you have four, forget about income tax, you're not 247 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: paying it. And that's seen their birth rate at skyrockett. 248 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: They've got a few other measures to boost it as well. 249 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 4: So yes, something to think about. Nikata, Thanks so much 250 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 4: for your time tonight, Thank you. 251 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 8: Rider. 252 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 4: Joining me now is leading geologist and author Professor Ian Plymer, 253 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: and let's start with Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi and Foreign 254 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: Minister Pennywong. 255 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: They're heading off to. 256 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: Samoa for the twenty twenty four Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting, 257 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: which King Charles will also be attending. And it seems 258 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: Australia is about to experience another climate shakedown with Pacific 259 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: nations putting pressure on Australia over fossil fuel exports. 260 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: How much is this trip going to cost us, Professor, Well. 261 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 8: It's going to cost us a huge amount of money. Secondly, 262 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 8: it's going to cost us a lot of credibility. 263 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 7: Here. 264 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 8: We have two people from the Australian government and they're 265 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 8: entourage who are flying there now unless they're going to 266 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 8: swim from Manly Beach across this somehow, and they're going 267 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 8: to be using a lot of fossil fuels. 268 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: To get there. 269 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 8: And these fossil fuels, some of the South Pacific Island 270 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 8: islanders claim putting carbon dioxide. 271 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: In the air. 272 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 8: This is warming the climate and the sea level is rising. Well, 273 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 8: that's contrary to data that we've had since eighteen forty 274 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 8: two on this part of the world. It's contrary to 275 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 8: what we know about carbon dioxide. So I think this 276 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 8: is yet again a massive display of hypocrisy, and yet 277 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 8: again our Prime Minister running away from problems in Australia 278 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 8: and gallivanting somewhere else around the world. 279 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: And I fear that the checkbook will come out at 280 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: some point during this trip. So let's just brace ourselves 281 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: for that now. The chair of Labour's Climate Change Authority, 282 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: Matt Keane for Liberal Treasure of New South Wales, has 283 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: lashed out at nuclear energy advocates, accusing them of being 284 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: delay mongers who are trying to prevent renewables from succeeding. 285 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: He labeled a push for nuclear and more gas as 286 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: and I quote, an illiberal drive to intervene in the 287 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: market led energy transition. And he also went on to 288 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: say that the delay mongers have latched onto nuclear power 289 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: despite the overwhelming evidence that he can only drive up 290 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: energy bills, can only be more expensive, and can only 291 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: take too long to build. This in a cost of 292 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: living crisis. It seems to me that people calling for 293 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: gas to be included in the capacity investment scheme are 294 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: trying to stop renewables in are very very interested in 295 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: your response to Matt Keane's claims. 296 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 8: There, Well, this is just Sheer's stupidity. Mister Keane should 297 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 8: know that when Finland put in its reactions the latest reactors, 298 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 8: the cost of electricity went down and the retailer and 299 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 8: the wholesaler also had lower costs. So we have evidence. 300 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 8: Very recently, we've just had the Page Research Center do 301 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 8: a study on the cost of energy. This was done 302 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 8: by Gerrard Holland, and he looked at solar and wind, 303 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 8: he looked at nuclear, looked at gas, and looked at coal. 304 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 8: By far the most expensive energy in Australia. Is solar 305 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 8: and wind. This is when you look at the total costs, 306 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 8: the land use changes, the putting in the new power lines, 307 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 8: et cetera, Nuclear is quite cheap compared with that, Gas 308 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 8: is also cheap, as his coal coals the cheapest, and 309 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 8: that's because we already have the infrastructure for coal. Now, 310 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 8: what mister Keane doesn't say is that sol and wind 311 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 8: are not reliable, whereas nuclear, gas and coal are reliable. 312 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 8: What he doesn't say is that sol and wind have 313 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 8: a very short life, less than twenty years, whereas nuclear 314 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 8: is at least sixty years for a nuclear power plant. 315 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 8: It's more than forty years for gas, more than fifty 316 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 8: years for coal. What he doesn't say is that our 317 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 8: future demands for energy are going to increase enormously. We're 318 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 8: already using ten percent of energy for data centers with AI, 319 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 8: it's going to be a lot higher. And what he's 320 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 8: really saying is that the practical economics of the nuclear 321 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 8: lobby groups are starting to frighten people. The practical economics 322 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 8: of the gas groups are starting to frighten the wind 323 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 8: and solar people. These are the cheapest and most reliable 324 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 8: and best forms of energy we can have in a 325 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 8: country like Australia. And so we've got all these foreign 326 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 8: corporations who are running the solar and running the wind, 327 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 8: who are lining up for their subsidies, and the subsidies 328 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 8: make the energy renewable. The subsidies say keep getting renewed. 329 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 8: And he's getting worried that the whistle's going to get 330 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 8: blown on this. And we can see around the world 331 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 8: that we can have cheap, reliable energy for very long 332 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 8: periods of time from nuclear. So I recommend that viewers 333 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 8: look at Gerard Holland's report from the Page Research Center. 334 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 8: He aired these findings at the AIC conference on Tuesday, 335 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 8: and these are showing that we are going down the 336 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 8: wrong path. We've got far too many vested interests who 337 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 8: are whisperinging mister Keynes here. He doesn't understand the fundamentals 338 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 8: of energy generation, and he doesn't understand the fundamental weaknesses 339 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 8: of solar and wind. 340 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: And I do love the comment he has here about 341 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: the illiberal drive to intervene in the market led energy transition. 342 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: But what do they do so much exactly? 343 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: There has been so much market manipulation subsidies to pretend 344 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: that this is something that's being led by the market, 345 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: it's purely organic, is just wishful thinking. I've got an 346 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: early Lefty losing it for you. It's from the New 347 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 4: Zealand Greens. 348 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 6: Coal, don't dig it, live in the ground, get with it. 349 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: I don't know what to say, But what do you 350 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 4: say to the New Zealand Greens this, Prefessor Pliman. 351 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 8: I think they've been taking some of Kamala House scripts 352 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 8: and talking from them. I have no idea what they're 353 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 8: talking about. But what we do know is that the 354 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 8: New Zealand coals on the west coast of South Island 355 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 8: exceptionally clean, very high calorific value, very low ash and 356 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 8: upprised coals. New Zealand does have energy from other sources 357 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 8: from oil and gas in the Taranaki base, and some 358 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 8: get thermal energy. That the New Zealand colls are some 359 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 8: of the best in the world. I have no idea 360 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 8: what they're trying to say, except that perhaps they want 361 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 8: New Zealand to become even more backward. 362 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 4: I think that would actually enjoy that very much, Professor 363 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: im Plymer, thank you so much for your time this evening. 364 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: Thank you still to came a bumper edition of Lefties 365 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: Losing It and Army. Horowetz joins me with these laters 366 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: from the US, including just how much more are the 367 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: Democrats spending compared to Donald Trump? 368 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: Welcome back. Now it's time for lefties losing it. 369 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 4: And here is some great advice from Kamala Harris telling 370 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: US supporters to be just like Jimmy Carter go out 371 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: and vote early, followed by mad cackling naturally. 372 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: So look, it's Jimmy Carter. You can vote early. You 373 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: can do. Jimmy Carter voted early. 374 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: We did have the Washington Post claiming he's very excited 375 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 4: about Kamala. 376 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: Let's check in on Jimmy Carter. 377 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 4: This is the former president on his one hundredth birthday, 378 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: just a few weeks ago, enjoying, hopefully enjoying a military flyover. 379 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 4: I mean, really, shame on his family for putting him 380 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: on display in that state. Whatever you think of Emi 381 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: was a former president, he deserves a little dignity. You 382 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: think his family would be watching out for him. Joe 383 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: Biden's family has been accused of elder abuse over. 384 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 3: The years, but then you hear a speech like this. 385 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 4: From Joe and you suddenly stop feeling sorry for him. 386 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 4: Before the cognitive decline. He was a dishonest scrote and 387 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: he's still a dishonest scrote. Here he is earlier today 388 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: expressing a desire to lock up Donald Trump. 389 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 9: He means it. 390 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: This is not a joke. 391 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 9: This the guy who also wants to replace every civil servant, 392 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 9: every single one. Thinks he has a raton of the 393 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 9: Supreme Court ruling on immunity to be able to need 394 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 9: me if it was the case to actually eliminate physically eliminate, 395 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 9: should kill someone who is he needs to be a 396 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 9: threat to him. I mean, so, I know this sounds bizarre. 397 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 9: It sounds like I said this five years ago. You 398 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 9: locked me up. We gotta like him up. 399 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: If you like him. Did he just claim that Donald 400 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 4: Trump wants to shoot and kill someone he. 401 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: Perceives as a threat. 402 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: Joe Biden is again inciting violence again, President Trump, and 403 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 4: after two assassination attempts in two months, appalling. 404 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: And now let's check in on the man. 405 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: Who some various stuede observers believe has been the one 406 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: pulling their puppet strings throughout the Biden Harris Administration's rain 407 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: old mate Barack Obama just. 408 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: Can't understand how we got so toxic. 409 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: I don't understand how we got so toxic and just 410 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: so divide and so better. 411 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: And I get why sometimes people just don't want to 412 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: pay attention to. 413 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 4: The hoodspa of that man never fails to astoud. It's 414 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: like an arsonist holding a match saying I don't understand 415 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: why it's hot all of a sudden, where these flames 416 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: come from? 417 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: Look in the mirror, champ. Okay, I've tried to. 418 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: Avoid this for as long as I can, but here 419 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 4: is some local lefties losing it content Senator Lydia Thorpe 420 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: launching into an unhinged tirade against King Charles. 421 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 9: Aside. 422 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 7: Again something people do, not our land, that give us 423 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 7: one this style from us. 424 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: Our bones, our scar, our baby, our people. 425 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 3: He's out that we want to training in this country here. 426 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 7: This is not your lab, this is not your la. 427 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 7: I'm not. 428 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 8: Now. 429 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: This left is losing its segment gets millions of views 430 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 4: every week around the world. We have a massive audience 431 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 4: overseas and they'll be shocked to learn that Lydia Thorpius, 432 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 4: the screaming banshee just saw, is a senator in the 433 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: Australian Parliament. 434 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: I will not. 435 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: Stand for racist racism in my workplace. 436 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: You are not helping the situation. And the Prime Minister 437 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 3: knows exactly what he's doing. He wants that's just to 438 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: come out and get me. 439 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: So where is my apart? 440 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: Fuck you? 441 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 4: Finally, here is Senator Olivia Thorpe doing some of her 442 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: best work outside a strip club in Melbourne. 443 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: This was just last year. 444 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 8: To you and you man that stands with what like that? 445 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: Someone get in Parliament, press and you you. She seems 446 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: like a good time but sadly, Senatoralia Thorpe received a 447 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 4: lifetime ban from that particular establishment. Maxine's Gentleman's Club in 448 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: Brunswick will no longer allow her entry. Sad Okay, let's 449 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 4: go back to laughing at lefties losing it overseas. Here 450 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 4: is a racist lefty in America. You know how she's voting. 451 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 5: What's more dangerous? Straight white conservative men or axe murderers? 452 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: A straight white conservative man? 453 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: Why is he more dangerous? 454 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: Because they're capable of doing anything. 455 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: They're crazy. 456 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: We'll make them crazy. 457 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: They're white. 458 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 5: You don't think that's racist at all? 459 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: No, And here is another woman back in Kamala because 460 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: she thinks Donald Trump will take her birth control away. 461 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 7: If you were to vote for anybody in twenty twenty four, 462 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 7: who is it going to be? 463 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris? 464 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: Why is that? 465 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: Because I like having rates, having rights. 466 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm gay and I enjoy being able to marry who 467 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: I want, be open about that at work. 468 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm also a woman. I take birth control. I like 469 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: being able to do that. 470 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 4: Just exactly what rights did a gay women lose under 471 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: Donald Trump's administration? And why would he want her to 472 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: stop taking birth control? She's a lesbian, Why is she 473 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 4: taking birth control? The whole thing is confusing me. Now, 474 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 4: this lady has really isolated the most important thing in 475 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: this campaign. You better listen to her, you pack of 476 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 4: sexist pigs. 477 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: Regardless of who you're voting for. Stop referring to our 478 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: presidential candidate as just Kamala. It's Kamala Harris. We do 479 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: not talk about the other person running and say Donald, right, 480 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: we don't just say Donald. Maybe we should, maybe we 481 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: should start calling him Donnie. But up until this point, 482 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: people have only felt comfortable referring to women in power 483 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: by just their first names because they do not respect 484 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: women in power. They did the same exact thing to Clinton. 485 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: So if you have an ounce of feminism in your 486 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: body at the very least, say Kamala Harris. 487 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: Ah dear. 488 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: Doesn't it just fill you with warmth and confidence knowing 489 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 4: that folks like that vote. Here is a couple wanting 490 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: to send conservatives to re education camp. Just feel the 491 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 4: tolerance and empathy here. 492 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 5: We're trying to send conservatives to re education camps to 493 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 5: be more accepting. 494 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, oh, elliot, all. 495 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 5: Right, So you would support take their rights away and 496 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 5: sending them to the camps forcefully? Would you be in 497 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 5: support of banning conservatives from voting? 498 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: I feel like everyone is to vote. 499 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 5: Oh, you're taking the rights away to a re education camp. 500 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 8: That is true. 501 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: Now, this next clip may have a little creative input. 502 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: We will check in with the lip readers on what 503 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 4: was actually said, but I like to think it was 504 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: something like this. 505 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 9: So is Kamala doing Okay, Nope, she's down Joe. 506 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: Now we're basically Trump is killing us at the pole. 507 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 8: So yes, we're gonna lose. 508 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: Joe, damn it. 509 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 9: Wait, wait, what if I come back to run again 510 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 9: as candidate? 511 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 512 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 5: Well, uh. 513 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: No, job man, You're not going back. 514 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 4: Shot. 515 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: Let's let it all play out. 516 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: Okay, let's just we'll talk later. 517 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 5: Joe. 518 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 7: Okay, women looking fine up in here. 519 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: Now, let's bring in documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horoid's Army. 520 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: A lipreada engaged by The New. 521 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 4: York Post has deciphered what really occurred during that exchange 522 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: between Joe Biden and Barack Obama at Ethel Kennedy's funeral. 523 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: While caught on camera, the conversation was drowned out by 524 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: the organ music, but professional lip reader Jeremy Freeman. Freeman, 525 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: who's got sixteen years of experience, thinks this is what 526 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: was said. She's not as strong as me, said Biden, 527 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: and then Obama replies, I know that's true. 528 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: We have time. 529 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: And then Biden comes back with, yeah, we'll get it 530 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: in time. 531 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: What do you think about all that army? Are they right? 532 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: Do they have time? 533 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? The New York Post doesn't have to hire a 534 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 7: lip reader to hear me say this. No, they do 535 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 7: not have time. Look, there's two weeks left in the 536 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 7: election and they are down badly. All the momentum is 537 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 7: moving toward Trump. He's literally the lat the RC people. Look, 538 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 7: I'm a maniac, I'm a lunatic. I checked the polls, 539 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 7: every morning and a couple times a day. He's down 540 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 7: in every single swing state, every single one, count them 541 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 7: all seven. Look they just said the quiet part. Quietly. 542 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 7: She is a terrible candidate and terrible at everything else. 543 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 7: This is why she's down. And by the way, Liz 544 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 7: Cheney is not gonna save your election. Look the word 545 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 7: shot in freud. Okay, this is a German word shot 546 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 7: in which means which means harm and damage and freud, 547 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 7: which means joy literally taking comfort and joy in the 548 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 7: harm of others. That word was literally created to define 549 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 7: the state of Joe Biden's being. Right now, he is 550 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 7: living shot in freud, okay. I mean, look, Brutus and 551 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 7: Cassius have nothing on how Kamala and a Democratic Party 552 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: did Uncle Joe dirty. Right, he is going to reach 553 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 7: out from beyond the grave with the ultimate I told 554 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 7: you so and a middle finger to the entire Democratic Party. 555 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 7: You screwed me over and look what happened. This is 556 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 7: what's going down. Look, they even have there obviously damage 557 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 7: control going on now. And remember the Obama administration were spying. 558 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 7: The New York Post said that doesn't sound like Joe Biden, 559 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 7: really it doesn't. Oh yeah, it does. The maightiness is awesome. 560 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 7: I love it. 561 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, it sounds like Joe Biden. Just have a 562 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 4: look at his form there is from the early days, 563 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: he's been bragging about himself. Remember when he was bragging 564 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: about what great Marxi was getting at university. That was 565 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: lying about all that, but he was bragging. Nonetheless, now 566 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: the Democrats to have an enormous advantage. They've got the 567 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 4: bulk of the mainstream media. They've got pretty much most 568 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: of the popular culture, from Hollywood to music industry to. 569 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: Fashion, the whole lot. 570 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 4: The polls are tied despite the Democrats having all that 571 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: and also outspending the Trump campaign. Kamala spent two hundred 572 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 4: and seventy million in September compared to Trump's seventy eight million. 573 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: I don't think enough is said about this disparity and 574 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: the spending army. If Trump had anywhere near. 575 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 4: The money the Democrats have to spend on his campaign, 576 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 4: it would be all over. 577 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: You could be winning New York. 578 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, this election would not be as close as it is. 579 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 7: Trump would actually be running away this election. If he 580 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 7: was just doing basic election blocking and tackling. He simply isn't. 581 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 7: That's just the reality of the situation. Look, Kamala Harris 582 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 7: is running a very traditional ground campaign. Okay, Right, they 583 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 7: have four times the amount of staffers than Trump does. Okay, 584 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 7: that's a massive number and a massive advice. Trump was 585 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 7: running a cult of personality campaign. Now he thinks he's 586 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 7: winning because of that. That's not actually true. He's winning 587 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 7: because he happens to be on the right side of 588 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 7: all the issues. He was winning because we had four 589 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 7: years of a horrible presidency by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Look, 590 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 7: he ran a cult of person out a campaign four 591 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 7: years ago. He lost. Okay, Look, his unconventional perform, the 592 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 7: unconventional preparation for the debate, which means he didn't prepare 593 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 7: for it. He lost the debate. He's winning because he 594 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 7: happens to be on the right side of all these issues, 595 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 7: and the momentum is on his side. 596 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: That's the problem. 597 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 7: He has not been spending the time and money. Look, 598 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 7: she has raised billions from small dealers. She's spending time 599 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 7: raising money. He's spending time and money on his legal affairs. 600 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 7: This is a huge disadvantage for him, But ultimately he's 601 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 7: going to win because everything is flowing in his direction, 602 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 7: and he is coming after a company that nobody likes. 603 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 4: Well, you just casually announced it. There, it's all over. 604 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 4: He's going to win. But that's part of the lawfare, 605 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 4: wasn't it. The law fair was designed not just to 606 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 4: further blacken his name in the eyes of the American public, 607 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: to have him as a convicted felon, but also to 608 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: distract him, to have him focused elsewhere, spending money elsewhere 609 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 4: instead of campaigning. 610 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 7: Question about Look, and by the way, to be clear, 611 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 7: I called this election last week. Now I didn't call 612 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 7: this week. I already called it last week. No, he 613 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 7: is got about that. That is actually part of their strategy, 614 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 7: no question about it. And to a certain extent, it's working. 615 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 4: It is absolutely Now President Joe Biden has once again 616 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: ignored his own advice. Remember he said this following the 617 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: first assassination attempt on Donald Trump. 618 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 9: Fellow Americans, when I was speaking to night about the 619 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 9: need for us to lower the temperature in our politics. 620 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: But now is at it again. 621 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 4: He claims that Trump is so dangerous that he ordered 622 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 4: to be locked up. 623 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 9: Thinks he has a reader of the Supreme Ruling on 624 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 9: immunity to be able to need me if it was 625 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 9: the case to actually eliminate physically, eliminate, should kill someone 626 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 9: who is he needs to be a threat to him. 627 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 9: I mean, so, I know this sounds bizarre. It sounds 628 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 9: like I said this five years ago. You'd like me up. 629 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 9: We gotta like him up him. 630 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 8: Dear. 631 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 4: He tried to rectify some of the damage there and 632 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 4: say lock him up politically, but please, he just claimed 633 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 4: right there, army, that Trump wants to shoot and kill people. 634 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 4: It's just an extraordinary way for the Democrats to tackle 635 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 4: this campaign. 636 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: They have not. 637 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 4: Stopped that reckless retrick against Trump one. They continue to 638 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 4: call him a threat to democracy, likening him to the 639 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 4: likes to Hitler. 640 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 7: They're doing it all the live long day, Rita. No, 641 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 7: there was an assassination attent, and of course everyone said, 642 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 7: let's lower the temperature, let's reduce the rhetoric. But you 643 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 7: know what, the next day he was on television doing 644 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 7: all the threat to democracy garbage. The next day then 645 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 7: there's a second assassination attent. 646 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: You think anything changed. 647 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 7: No, he's still a fascist, still a threat to our 648 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 7: way of life, right, still, comparing him to Hitler and 649 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 7: Mao and Mussolini, These are all the comparison they're making, 650 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 7: And of course this comports with him saying, let's lock 651 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 7: them up. Look the same democracy crowd, right, this is 652 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 7: the Democratic Party. These are people who've been trying to 653 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,479 Speaker 7: subvert democracy in both deed and in word. Right, they 654 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 7: have let's not forget, not to just forget to lock 655 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 7: it up stuff. They've been using lawfare like we talked about, 656 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 7: to try to get him off his game on the campaign. 657 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 7: Do we forget? They try to get him off of 658 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 7: the ballots. They try to take Trump off of the 659 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 7: ballots in different states. This is democracy. This is the 660 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 7: same democracy crowd. Then, the rhetoric has included calling the 661 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 7: Supreme Court illegitimate. They have called for the taking down 662 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 7: the Electoral College. These are people are saying, hey, in 663 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 7: my city of New York, let's have nonsenizens vote. You 664 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 7: tell me who is pro democracy? Who is anti democracy? 665 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: This is crazy? 666 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 7: Am I taking crazy bells? What's going on? Now? 667 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: You're one hundred percent right? 668 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 4: And don't forget installing Kamala Harris in validating fourteen million votes. 669 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 3: Biden actually went through a process. 670 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 4: He was supposed to be the nominee, and suddenly we've 671 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 4: got someone who nobody appeared to vote for, who is 672 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 4: now their candidate, and again they talk about norms and 673 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 4: threats to democracy in Horowitz, Thank you so much for 674 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 4: your time this evening. 675 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: Oh is your pleasure still to come? 676 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 4: Energy expert Alex Epstein joins me to expose the boldest. 677 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 3: Lies of net zero activists. 678 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 4: You're watching the Reader Paney Show and joining me now 679 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 4: is best selling author of Fossil Future. While global human 680 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 4: flourishing requires more oil, coal and natural gas, not less. 681 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 4: Energy expert Alex Epstein alex is she. 682 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 3: Or isn't she? 683 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 4: This is the question we're facing. We know where Donald 684 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 4: Trump's energy policy lies. 685 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: He's crystal clear about what he wants to do. 686 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 4: But with Kamala Harris's position, well, it remains murky. She's 687 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 4: long said that she wants to ban fracking. She promised 688 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 4: to do that when she was a Democratic presidential nominee 689 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 4: back in twenty nineteen. She said she banfracking on day one. 690 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 4: Now she says she doesn't want to do that. It 691 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: would certainly ender her chances in a state like Pennsylvania 692 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 4: if she had that policy these days, But really, where 693 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 4: does she sit on this crucial issue? 694 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 8: Yeah? 695 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 10: I think it's actually just really clear. I mean, her 696 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 10: position is net zero by twenty fifty, which basically means 697 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 10: banded fossil fuel used by twenty fifty, and she supports 698 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 10: steps to get there. And whether you ban fracking outright 699 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 10: or just destroy fracking through a series of irrational regulations 700 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 10: doesn't really matter. 701 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: The goal is to destroy fossil fuel. 702 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 10: So one way to think of it is you can 703 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 10: destroy fracking without banning fracking, just as Obama pledged to 704 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 10: destroy the call industry and largely succeeded without banning call. 705 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 10: You just pass other regulations that make it impossible. 706 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 4: Now, the Biden Harris administration did straightaway block the Keystone pipeline. 707 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: What's been the packed off that decision. 708 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 10: This is one of the most damaging things because if 709 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 10: you think about the situation with Canada, Canada just has enormous, 710 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 10: enormous what's called proven oil reserves. They have way more 711 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 10: than we have in the United States. They have huge 712 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 10: amounts of untapped production that could be a great source 713 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 10: of oil for us in the US, very well suited 714 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 10: to our refineries, as well as oil that could supply 715 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 10: the free world, which we need now more than ever. 716 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 10: Because we have a lot of hostile people with a 717 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 10: lot of oil, and instead of taking a step toward 718 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 10: more energy trade with Canada, and we should be doing 719 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 10: a lot more, they just destroyed it. 720 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: And they destroyed it on a whim. 721 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 10: They basically just got the State Department to destroy it 722 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 10: after over ten years of investment in planning. And so 723 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 10: this not only just totally sabotaged a lot of our 724 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 10: potential with Canada, it told everyone in industry you're you know, 725 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 10: you could be on the chopping block at any moment, 726 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 10: and so that does insignidvize investment. It creates fear, and 727 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 10: so we haven't even started to experience the full consequences 728 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 10: of stopping Keystone. 729 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 4: Now, Alex, let's have a look at this lotust a 730 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 4: peace published by Monash University right here in Melbourne, Australia. 731 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 4: They claim that Hurricane Milton and Hurricane Helene serve as 732 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 4: a stark example of how climate change is influencing storm dynamics. 733 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 3: They also say it demonstrates. 734 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 4: How warmer ocean temperatures and shifting weather patterns can lead 735 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: to severe damage in both coastal and inland communities. 736 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 3: And they also wrote. 737 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 4: Recent extreme weather events, including devastating tropical cyclones, underscore the 738 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 4: critical need for global corporation and decisive action, and that 739 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 4: it highlights a disturbing trend. Storms are becoming more impactful 740 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 4: closer to the coast. Alex care to respond to what 741 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 4: you've just. 742 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 10: Heard, and this is really damaging because the overall message 743 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 10: here is let's get rid. 744 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 2: Of fossil fuels. 745 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 10: Fossil fuels are making the climate more dangerous. We get 746 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 10: rid of fossil fuels, then we're going to be safer 747 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 10: from climate. 748 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: But if you just think for a. 749 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 10: Second, have fossil fuels made us more endangered by climate 750 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 10: or safer from climate? You just think, what was a 751 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 10: hurricane like one hundred years ago, fifty years ago, even 752 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 10: twenty five years ago compared to today, And it's obvious 753 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 10: and the data bear this out that we're much much 754 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 10: safer from hurricanes and other forms of extreme weather. And 755 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 10: fossil fuels are huge reason why. They keep us incredibly 756 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 10: resilient through things like heating and air conditioning, storm warning systems, 757 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 10: evacuation systems, building sturdy buildings, et cetera, et cetera. So 758 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 10: we've become incredibly resilient to climate thanks to fossil fuels, 759 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 10: and whatever climate affects fossil fuels have had are very 760 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 10: hard to detect. 761 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: Particularly with storms. 762 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 10: This is why there's no strong trend with hurricane frequency 763 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 10: or intensity. And so they're really just trying to make 764 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 10: stuff up, saying like, oh it was it develops faster 765 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 10: here and there. Just the big picture as fossil fuels 766 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 10: are making us safer than ever from extreme weather, and 767 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 10: so if you're manipulating science to tell us to get 768 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 10: rid of fossil fuels, you're going to make make us 769 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 10: far more in danger from extreme weather. 770 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: And you're I mean, if you did it, literally, you. 771 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 10: Just destroyed the whole country because the grid can't work 772 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 10: without fossil fuels. I mean, imagine Australia without Call. That's 773 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 10: over half your grid. So you know, you get rid 774 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 10: of Call really quickly, a huge percentage of the population dies, 775 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 10: the grid doesn't function, you have civil war. Like these 776 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 10: guys are not at all thinking through what they're advocating, 777 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 10: or they are and they just really hate humans. 778 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's at the heart of a lot 779 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 4: of the activism we see in this area. And one 780 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 4: of the claims we hear over and over again in 781 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 4: this country, and I'm sure elsewhere is that renewables are cheaper, 782 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 4: that they actually lower energy costs, But the reality seems 783 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 4: to be fairly different to that. Take me through this 784 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 4: graph you recently shed. It seems to show that places 785 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 4: with the highest percentage of renewable use seem to be 786 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 4: paying more for energy. 787 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that's a good description of what that shows. 788 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 10: And we see this around the world, and Rita, let's 789 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 10: just I think it should be pretty obvious to somebody, 790 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 10: like imagine I said, hey, Rita, I've got something that's 791 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 10: better and cheaper than the iPhone. But I'm not just 792 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 10: gonna make it and compete with the iPhone. I need 793 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 10: you to ban the iPhone and then give me a 794 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 10: couple of trillion dollars in subsidies, and then I promise 795 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 10: it'll be cheaper than the iPhone. Well, if it were cheaper, 796 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 10: then you wouldn't need to ban the competition and you 797 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 10: wouldn't need subsidies. So obviously it's an inferior thing, and 798 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 10: they're just issuing press releases with lies. So if you're 799 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 10: actually better, then compete with fossil fuels on providing reliable 800 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,959 Speaker 10: electricity and other forms of energy, and they're not willing 801 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,479 Speaker 10: to do that because the technology and economics aren't there. 802 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 10: And really, what this whole renewable is cheaper thing for 803 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 10: it's just a cover for the to pretend that we're 804 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 10: not going to experience extreme suffering from banning fossil fuels. 805 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 10: And what we've seen in Europe is just even with 806 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 10: a little bit of restriction of fossil fuels, it creates 807 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 10: a total energy crisis. So they should learn their lesson 808 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 10: and if renewables so what are actually cheaper, can become cheaper, 809 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 10: then let them compete on a real market to provide 810 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 10: reliable energy. Otherwise it's obviously just a lie. 811 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 4: Now you've highlighted more catastrophizing by the climate activists. It's 812 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 4: something that we hear daily and it's not new. Let's 813 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 4: go back twenty years to this from the Guardian in 814 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,720 Speaker 4: two thousand and four where they claim that climate change 815 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 4: over the next twenty years could result in a global catastrophe, 816 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 4: costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters. Once again, Alex, 817 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 4: that claim has not aged too well. 818 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, if we actually had news it would 819 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 10: just constantly be telling us, guess what, life is better 820 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 10: than ever. We're safer than ever from climate. Thank you 821 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 10: fossil fuels. Let's give the fossil fuel industry a metal, 822 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 10: like that's all we would be talking about, because we're 823 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 10: obviously safer from hurricanes, we're much safer from drought, we're 824 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 10: saved from temperature extremes, like we should be celebrating. We've 825 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 10: become incredibly resilient to climate, and whatever climate changes occurred 826 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 10: hasn't mattered that much, and we shouldn't expect it. 827 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 2: To matter that much. 828 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 10: Why would one or two degrees change on the Earth 829 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 10: overwhelm the most adaptable species in the history of the 830 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 10: planet that's increasingly getting better at being resilient from climate. 831 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,439 Speaker 10: So people are just they're thinking about climate like it's 832 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 10: the year thirteen hundred and just a drought is going 833 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 10: to be a problem versus No, this is we're in 834 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 10: the twenty first century. We're really good at dealing with climate. 835 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 10: We're safer than ever from climate. We're in a climate renaissance. 836 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,479 Speaker 10: Let's keep getting better at dealing with climate, and let's 837 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 10: keep being freer and energizing the whole world and deal 838 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 10: with real things like three people use three billion people 839 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 10: using less electricity than a typical US refrigerator. 840 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 2: Like that's a real problem, not the weather. 841 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 4: Alex Epstein said beautifully, thank you so much for a 842 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 4: time this evening. 843 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 2: Thank you. 844 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 4: That's it from a opnek Is news not I'll see 845 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 4: you at eleven tomorrow. 846 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 6: Mm hmm