Speaker 1: Lately.
Speaker 2: General, Welcome to the Late Debate. Thanks for joining us
Speaker 2: on the Late Debate.
Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Fraileitch and Caleb bond Well. People
Speaker 3: have been calling for de escalation in the Middle East,
Speaker 3: and that ceasefire announced by Donald Trump earlier today certainly
Speaker 3: seems to have de escalated. Iran were accused of breaking
Speaker 3: the ceasefire just hours after it was announced. Israel promised
Speaker 3: a rapid retaliation, and the US President was not shy
Speaker 3: in expressing his frustration just moments ago.
Speaker 4: We basically have two countries that have been fighting so
Speaker 4: long and so hard that they don't know what the
Speaker 4: they're doing.
Speaker 1: You understand that.
Speaker 3: You heard there Trump expressing his frustration with both sides
Speaker 3: in extended comments to reporters. He expressed it throughout the
Speaker 3: day he'd been annoyed not only with Ron but with Israel.
Speaker 3: And that's significant because up until this point, the US
Speaker 3: leader has bet Israel to the hilt.
Speaker 2: He's more of what he had to say.
Speaker 5: Rocket that I guess was fired overboard, it was after
Speaker 5: the time limit and admits it's target, and now Israel's
Speaker 5: going out.
Speaker 1: These guys got to calm down. Ridiculously. I didn't like
Speaker 1: plenty of things I saw yesterday. I didn't like the
Speaker 1: fact that Isua unloaded.
Speaker 5: Right after we made the deal. They didn't have to unload.
Speaker 5: And I didn't like the fact that.
Speaker 4: The retaliation was very strong. But in all fairness, is
Speaker 4: you unloaded a lot. And now I hear Isuel just
Speaker 4: went out because they felt it was violated by one.
Speaker 1: Rocket that didn't land anywhere.
Speaker 5: That's not what we want, I'll tell you, and I'm
Speaker 5: telling you I'm not happy about that Israel either.
Speaker 1: All I do is played both sides.
Speaker 5: I'm going now, as you know, Tonado, some of you
Speaker 5: are going with.
Speaker 4: Me, and I think it's going to be uh successful.
Speaker 1: We'll see, I'll let you know.
Speaker 3: So you heard there Trump saying he was on his
Speaker 3: way to NATO that's in the Hague. Right after that
Speaker 3: brief press conference, he got onto Air Force one. He's
Speaker 3: in the air right now. But just before he got
Speaker 3: on the plane, he told reporters that once on board,
Speaker 3: he would immediately be dealing with the fact that Israel
Speaker 3: were on the verge of retaliating for what they believed
Speaker 3: was a breach of the ceasefire by Iran.
Speaker 2: His Trump again.
Speaker 4: Besides that, qus each other for a violighting I think
Speaker 4: violated it.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I'm not sure they did it intentionally.
Speaker 1: They couldn't rain people back.
Speaker 4: I don't like the fact that Israel went out this
Speaker 4: morning at all, and I'm going.
Speaker 1: To see if I can stop it.
Speaker 4: So as soon as I get away from you, I'm
Speaker 4: going to see if I can stop it. I think
Speaker 4: it's been completely demolished. I think the reason we're here
Speaker 4: is because those pilots.
Speaker 1: There's be too violent, said an unbelievable job. And you know,
Speaker 1: the fake news like CNN in.
Speaker 4: Particular, they're trying to you know, they're trying to say, well,
Speaker 4: I agree that it was destroyed, but maybe not that destroyed.
Speaker 1: You know what they're doing.
Speaker 4: They're really hurting great pilots that put their lives in
Speaker 4: the line. CNN has scum, and so is MSDNC. They're
Speaker 4: all and frankly the networks aren't much better. It's all
Speaker 4: fake news. But they should not have done that. By
Speaker 4: those pilots hit their targets.
Speaker 5: Those targets were obliterated.
Speaker 4: And the pilots should be given credit. Then not after
Speaker 4: the pilots are after me. They want to try and
Speaker 4: to meet it super Approbrale. I mean, Iran will never
Speaker 4: rebuild it from there, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: That place is under rock. That place is demolished. The
Speaker 1: BAT two pilots did their job.
Speaker 4: They did it better than anybody could even imagine. They
Speaker 4: hit late in the evening, it was dark with no moon,
Speaker 4: and they hit that target with every one of those things,
Speaker 4: and that place is gone. But when I see CNN
Speaker 4: all night long, they're trying to say, well, maybe it
Speaker 4: wasn't really as demolished.
Speaker 1: As we thought.
Speaker 4: There was demolished, and you take a look at the
Speaker 4: pinpricks and you see that place is gone. And I
Speaker 4: will say, I think CNN or to apologize for the
Speaker 4: pilots of the V two's, I think that MSD and
Speaker 4: c or to apologize. I think these guys, really, these
Speaker 4: networks are these cable networks.
Speaker 1: Are real losers. You really are. You're realizing.
Speaker 4: You're gutless losers. I say that the CNN because I
Speaker 4: watch it. I have no choice. I gotta watch that garbage.
Speaker 4: It's all garbage, it's all fakeds. But I think CNN
Speaker 4: is a gutless group of people and the people that
Speaker 4: run it. Nobody even knows there's been sold so many times.
Speaker 4: But the people that run it or to be ashamed
Speaker 4: MSD and C again named Brian Roberts. He heads it.
Speaker 4: He's a disgrace. He's a weak, pathetic disgrace.
Speaker 2: You have to love Trump.
Speaker 3: The Middle East is on fire, but he's still got
Speaker 3: time to go hard after see and MSNBC he got
Speaker 3: onto Air Force one and had not long been in
Speaker 3: the air before he tweeted this. Now we're not sure,
Speaker 3: as you would have heard Paul Murray say, whether this
Speaker 3: is because he's had a conversation with Benjaminette and Yahoo,
Speaker 3: or if this is just Donald Trump supposing what is
Speaker 3: about to happen. But he tweeted, Israel is not going
Speaker 3: to attack Iran. All planes will turn around and head
Speaker 3: home while doing a friendly plane wave to Iran. Nobody
Speaker 3: will be hurt. The ceasefire is in effect. Thank you
Speaker 3: for your attention to this matter. Donald J. Trump, President
Speaker 3: of the United States, Freyer and Caleb, A lot has
Speaker 3: transpired even in the last hour.
Speaker 2: What do you make of it all?
Speaker 6: Well, well, the reports now from the Times of Israel
Speaker 6: that in the last half hour Trump and Nittanya who
Speaker 6: have spoken, and that they came to an agreement that
Speaker 6: Israel could essentially carry out what you might call a
Speaker 6: symbolic attack on Iran. And the reports also of other
Speaker 6: times of Israel that they have hit a small target
Speaker 6: near Tehran with the will of Donald Trump, it would
Speaker 6: seem it's also a report coming out of public broadcasters
Speaker 6: in Israel that when Trump put that post up on
Speaker 6: truth Social that he already knew that they were going
Speaker 6: to attack when he said that Israel will not attack Iran.
Speaker 6: So it would seem that even in the dying moments
Speaker 6: of this, Trump was still trying to bay any means
Speaker 6: necessary persuade Israel not to attack. And I suppose you
Speaker 6: can understand why, because in Trump's mind, he is trying
Speaker 6: to achieve this cease fire to make sure that there
Speaker 6: is not the forever war that he promised people that
Speaker 6: he would not get involved in. The efforts that Trump
Speaker 6: has made in the last few days have not been
Speaker 6: to inflame any kind of war in the Middle East,
Speaker 6: to create or in the Middle East. It's been quite
Speaker 6: the opposite, really, I mean his I know a lot
Speaker 6: of people were critical of the fact that he took
Speaker 6: too long to do this. Of course, there are other
Speaker 6: people in the Magamus movement who said he shouldn't be
Speaker 6: getting involved at all. But I think Trump made a
Speaker 6: very methodical and thought out decision here to strike when
Speaker 6: he did, because he thought this is an action by
Speaker 6: attacking their nuclear bases in Iran that will prevent further
Speaker 6: war in the Middle East and of course prevent a
Speaker 6: potential attack on the United States in the future. And
Speaker 6: so what he is trying to protect here is that
Speaker 6: he acknowledges, of course, as we saw in those grabs there,
Speaker 6: that Iran has broken the ceasefire in some means, though
Speaker 6: it didn't cause any loss of life. The two missiles
Speaker 6: were intercepted over northern Israel, and so his point was
Speaker 6: you shouldn't have a response from Israel that he's out
Speaker 6: of kilter with that. So it would seem we've come
Speaker 6: to a point where he said, look, if you have
Speaker 6: a symbolic retaliation, it's tit for tat. You're in the
Speaker 6: same boat. Now, let's get on with this ceasefire. That
Speaker 6: would seem to me to be the best possible result,
Speaker 6: so long as both sides, and particularly Iran, now that
Speaker 6: they have been hit again, keeps up their end of
Speaker 6: the bargain.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's interesting for Trump, but he's in
Speaker 7: this position where he's got obviously the neo cons within
Speaker 7: the administration saying do it bomb Iran, and then he's
Speaker 7: got more of the isolation as types like Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 7: who apparently has now called Trump and apologized, according to
Speaker 7: Trump for saying that he was instigating World War III,
Speaker 7: which obviously has not happened. And I think with this,
Speaker 7: the precision execution of these strikes on the nuclear plants
Speaker 7: and then the ceasefire, he's managed to walk this fine
Speaker 7: balance of eliminating Iran's nuclear capacity while also not alienating
Speaker 7: other Arab states, in fact bringing.
Speaker 8: Them closer to the West. And it's all been very successful.
Speaker 7: I would say though, that it was actually Israel that
Speaker 7: started this operation. It was Israel that took out the
Speaker 7: air defense systems. This operation was only possible because Israel
Speaker 7: helped topple the Assad regime and they eliminated Hasbilla, which
Speaker 7: created the air pathway through to Iran. So all of
Speaker 7: this is years and twenty years of intelligence from Israel
Speaker 7: and years of hand to hand boots on the ground combat.
Speaker 7: So I do see what Trump is doing. It's smart
Speaker 7: of Israel to listen to America because they rely on
Speaker 7: them for a lot of funding and defense and diplomatic support.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, Israel will act in their
Speaker 7: own self interest. If they still think there's a threat
Speaker 7: from Iran, they started the process of eliminating that threat,
Speaker 7: and they will finish it on their own terms.
Speaker 3: We heard Donald Trump say just a moment ago that
Speaker 3: Israel needs to calm down, And for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 3: it seems like Israel have achieved their goals in the
Speaker 3: twelve days that this conflict has been running. They have
Speaker 3: eliminated Around's nuclear threat, they've eliminated Around's ballistic missiles, They've
Speaker 3: killed a large number of military chiefs, they've killed a
Speaker 3: large number of nuclear scientists, and they've made a big
Speaker 3: statement to other adversaries in the Middle East, don't mess
Speaker 3: with us. We will deal with you, and deal strongly.
Speaker 3: So at some point this tit for tat, and I
Speaker 3: kind of understand Trump's frustration. At some point someone has
Speaker 3: to say stop, that's enough, and he's calling, obviously on
Speaker 3: Israel to be the bigger person here. I suppose it
Speaker 3: seems it was a round who broke the ceasefire, Trump says,
Speaker 3: all right, you don't have to go again, because then
Speaker 3: this will never end. We've achieved what we sit out
Speaker 3: to do. Let's stop. So Israel would have achieved their mission.
Speaker 3: For the Iya Tollers, though, for them to have a
Speaker 3: cease fire, I guess they don't have much choice because
Speaker 3: to keep going they're going to be destroyed. But it's
Speaker 3: a difficult one for the Iya Tollers, who have sworn
Speaker 3: to the elimination of Israel. They can't be seen to
Speaker 3: be weak to Israel. In fact, when the ceasefire was announced,
Speaker 3: the Iranian leadership announced to their people that they had
Speaker 3: imposed a ceasefire on Israel, which is a bit of
Speaker 3: a joke. The question is will those two sides trick
Speaker 3: to their positions Israel in a stronger one and how
Speaker 3: long can that hold well?
Speaker 6: I mean, the reality as we know is that the
Speaker 6: only person who can be the bigger person in this
Speaker 6: situation is Israel. I mean, Iran has nothing to gain
Speaker 6: in being the bigger person. They have a lot more
Speaker 6: to lose in being the bigger person. The reason they've
Speaker 6: agreed to the cease fire is to some degree a
Speaker 6: level of self preservation, and Trump is appealing to both sides.
Speaker 6: As he said earlier, I'm playing both sides here. He
Speaker 6: is quite open about that because his objective is to
Speaker 6: achieve it as close to piece as you can get
Speaker 6: in the Middle East. I mean, you know, I think
Speaker 6: the idea of peace in the Middle East is basically impossible,
Speaker 6: but he's trying to get as close to it as
Speaker 6: he can. So Iran has, to the eye, toll of
Speaker 6: the regime has to let this ceasefire happen if they
Speaker 6: have any chance of surviving. I mean, the reality is
Speaker 6: still very much that there could be an uprising in
Speaker 6: Iran and that the regime is toppled. But as I
Speaker 6: was saying last night, of course you weren't here but
Speaker 6: for your benefit, because I know you were out having
Speaker 6: dinner instead of watching the late debate. And I don't
Speaker 6: blame you for doing so, by the way, James, But
Speaker 6: as I said last night, the only means by which
Speaker 6: you could achieve a toppling of the regime that would
Speaker 6: be of any use to anyone is if the people
Speaker 6: themselves rise up. You can't end up in a situation
Speaker 6: where you essentially topple the regime by for instance, Israel
Speaker 6: or the United States going in and assassinating the Ayatola
Speaker 6: and then hoping everything works out from there, because we've
Speaker 6: seen what happens when you do things like that, you
Speaker 6: create vacuums and people fill them. You cannot topple the
Speaker 6: regime by that measure. The only way to do it
Speaker 6: is to counterproductively to some degree, allow the regime to
Speaker 6: continue long enough that people in Iran could rise up themselves,
Speaker 6: and having this cease fire at least gives the year
Speaker 6: to allow that to happen.
Speaker 3: I was curious with Trump really getting stuck in the
Speaker 3: sea and then for questioning whether or not the US
Speaker 3: pilots have been able to destroy Iran's nuclear stockpile. JD
Speaker 3: Events spoke earlier today saying that their uranium was buried
Speaker 3: after those bunker busting bombs had been dropped.
Speaker 2: But there are reports that prior.
Speaker 3: To the American attack there were dozens of trucks outside
Speaker 3: that main nuclear installation, and the suggestion being perhaps they
Speaker 3: moved their uranium stockpiles prior to the US attack, and
Speaker 3: if they did, are those stockpiles hidden in Iran? Were
Speaker 3: they transferred to one of their allied countries? Or perhaps
Speaker 3: were they even moved around the world to create dirty bombs.
Speaker 3: Those reports are in the media in the last couple
Speaker 3: of hours. Trump is absolutely strident, we did what we
Speaker 3: said we would do. Their nuclear capacity is destroyed, but
Speaker 3: it would make sense if there is a military capability retained,
Speaker 3: nuclear capability retained, that the I tollers would agree to
Speaker 3: a cease fire and it might take them years, but rebuild.
Speaker 2: And we do know they think long term.
Speaker 8: They do think long term.
Speaker 7: And also we have to remember that Russia has said
Speaker 7: they will help Iran rebuild their nuclear program. North Korea
Speaker 7: has said essentially the same thing. There are plenty of
Speaker 7: powers within that axis of evil that would be more
Speaker 7: than willing to offer expertise. I think there were around
Speaker 7: two hundred Russian nuclear scientists working on the Iranian nuclear program,
Speaker 7: and so there is a lot of intelligence sharing, there's
Speaker 7: a lot of expertise sharing. And so don't think that
Speaker 7: just because these nuclear plants have been.
Speaker 8: Obliterated that the threat is over. This is the problem.
Speaker 7: As long as you have a regime there that is
Speaker 7: totally committed to the annihilation of Israel and the West,
Speaker 7: even at the expense of their own people. You won't
Speaker 7: have peace. It will just lead to this simmering. And
Speaker 7: that's kind of what's happening with HESBLA to the north
Speaker 7: of Israel in Lebanon. Obviously, they've been very successful at
Speaker 7: taking out the direct threat posed by HESBLA, but they're
Speaker 7: still conduct seeing strikes on a rather frequent basis against
Speaker 7: key leaders, key infrastructure because the radicalism continues to simmer away.
Speaker 7: Long term, all this does is just push back the
Speaker 7: timeline for another war, another confrontation. Unless there is a
Speaker 7: true denouncement of radical Islam in the Middle East, there
Speaker 7: will never be sustainable peace or.
Speaker 2: Of extreme Islam with an intention to what Israel from them. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Sure, if that's not done by the people of Iran,
Speaker 6: by what means do you think that can be done
Speaker 6: without causing a white skull war.
Speaker 7: The problem is the people of Iran, from the polling
Speaker 7: I've seen, do not support the regime. But the IRGC
Speaker 7: is so powerful still that anybody who speaks out is brutally,
Speaker 7: brutally repressed. Even Iranian dissidents in Australia are scared to
Speaker 7: speak out against the regime. Some of them have talked
Speaker 7: about having attempts made on their life in places like
Speaker 7: the US.
Speaker 8: Attempts at kidnappings.
Speaker 7: These are the sleeper cells that run has around the world,
Speaker 7: and so yes, of course the goal would always be
Speaker 7: for the Iranian people to rise up, but how realistic
Speaker 7: is that when you're living in an authoritarian regime that
Speaker 7: will disappear you and your family from the face of
Speaker 7: the earth. That's why the only path to piece is
Speaker 7: I think when you've got your knee on someone's neck.
Speaker 8: You keep it there.
Speaker 7: They are so close to seeing the entire regime collapse.
Speaker 7: If I were Israel, I'd be frustrated that the US
Speaker 7: stepped in now, like, let them finish the job. This
Speaker 7: is the first and probably the best opportunity they've had
Speaker 7: in almost fifty years to actually rid the Middle East
Speaker 7: of this toxic regime.
Speaker 8: Don't stop now.
Speaker 2: Well, the question is how far do you go?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: Remove the nuclear threat?
Speaker 3: If they remove the Islamic leadership, then who rises up
Speaker 3: next the shark?
Speaker 8: Bring him back. He's ready to come back.
Speaker 3: Can be responsible for that, and it doesn't want to
Speaker 3: be responsible collected to not do that, I know.
Speaker 6: But that's the thing. You would hope it would all
Speaker 6: go well, but what if it doesn't. Go well, I
Speaker 6: mean that's that.
Speaker 8: That is the problem of work and what it is
Speaker 8: at the moment.
Speaker 2: We can always go work.
Speaker 3: Look at Afghanistan, mark is proof it can always go worse.
Speaker 6: Yes, every every time the United States has intervened in
Speaker 6: the Middle East, it has become immeasurably worse. So so
Speaker 6: on what basis do we hope that if we were
Speaker 6: intervened in a way to say, okay, we're just going
Speaker 6: to wipe out the regime, that it doesn't lead to
Speaker 6: the rise of something worse.
Speaker 3: So the rule in the Middle East is you can
Speaker 3: always replace a bad guy with the worst guy.
Speaker 6: That's you can, or you can even go in get
Speaker 6: rid of the bad guy, and then walk out and
Speaker 6: let the bad guy come back. In Afghanistan, I mean
Speaker 6: there is there is not if you could point to
Speaker 6: something to say, Okay, we've done it before, we've got
Speaker 6: a model to follow along, but we don't have the model.
Speaker 6: It's it's never worked, and I think that's the problem.
Speaker 6: I understand the desire and the need to some degree
Speaker 6: to get rid of the regime in Iran, but no
Speaker 6: one has ever been able to do it before. So
Speaker 6: I don't know how you think you can do it again.
Speaker 7: Because I would say Iran is a different circumstance where
Speaker 7: they do have unlike some of those other countries where
Speaker 7: there has been absolutely zero history of democratic rule, zero
Speaker 7: history of respect for human rights of Western valleys Iran,
Speaker 7: they are not Arabs. They are Persians with their own
Speaker 7: unique history and language and culture going back to biblical times.
Speaker 7: Think of Cyrus the Great who let the Jews go
Speaker 7: back to Israel, and so you can draw on that,
Speaker 7: and it's actually about restoring Persian nationhood and ripping off
Speaker 7: the shackles of Islamic colonization, which is what this is.
Speaker 3: And I think everyone would be thrilled with that and
Speaker 3: cheering for the Persian people.
Speaker 2: If they can.
Speaker 8: If they can do it, come on dive to do so.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, as we said, is on his way to
Speaker 3: the Hague for a NATO meeting. Anthony ALBERNIZI was meant
Speaker 3: to be at that meeting.
Speaker 2: The will certainly talk.
Speaker 3: He would be, as he's been chasing a chance to
Speaker 3: sit down with Donald Trump, but of course now.
Speaker 2: Albanzi will not be joining that meeting.
Speaker 3: He spoke to Kieran Gilbert on Sky News earlier today
Speaker 3: about how it was pointless him traveling to NATO.
Speaker 9: Should you have gone to NATO wants to meet with
Speaker 9: the Indo Pacific allies.
Speaker 10: They're not there, Kieren, the President of Correa is not there.
Speaker 10: The Prime Minister of Japan is not there. In terms
Speaker 10: of the IP four, three of the four leaders aren't there.
Speaker 10: That was a part of the decision making process that
Speaker 10: we made.
Speaker 2: NATO is about NATO.
Speaker 3: NATO is about NATO, and yet Anthiy Albanesi has attended
Speaker 3: NATO meetings before. Trump evidently wanted to meet with the
Speaker 3: leaders of Australia, Japan, South Korea and New Zealand. Most
Speaker 3: of those leaders aren't going, but Anti Albanese.
Speaker 2: Surely Freyer should still go.
Speaker 3: He's got meetings booked with Ju Jingping, which we'll talk
Speaker 3: about later. The Australian is reporting on that in tomorrow's papers.
Speaker 3: Anthony Albanize should absolutely be at the Hague. You know
Speaker 3: where he is tonight though I believe he's celebrating a
Speaker 3: fiftieth anniversary for SBS tonight highly important.
Speaker 2: What is important? When do you think he ought to be?
Speaker 3: There's Anthony Albanzi earlier this evening, Happy birthday to SBS. Well,
Speaker 3: that's wonderful, But wouldn't his time be better on THATAF
Speaker 3: plane on his way.
Speaker 2: To the Hague.
Speaker 8: It totally would be.
Speaker 7: But I actually don't blame him for not going to NATO.
Speaker 7: In fact, I don't think he would get much out
Speaker 7: of much good out of Trump, because at NATO all
Speaker 7: the countries are going to be slammed for and with
Speaker 7: the US trying to convince them to increase their defense
Speaker 7: spending to five percent of GDP, kirs Starma has come
Speaker 7: out and committed the UK to that target as well. Meanwhile,
Speaker 7: here in Australia under Labor we haven't even hit two percent.
Speaker 7: We're getting to two four by twenty thirty three to
Speaker 7: twenty thirty four. If alban Easy did go to NATO,
Speaker 7: he would stand out like a sore thumb as the
Speaker 7: one country there that is not taking anything the US says,
Speaker 7: anything the Western world says about defense.
Speaker 8: Seriously, the only option.
Speaker 7: For him is to grow a parables and get to
Speaker 7: the White House. But he's not going to do that
Speaker 7: because he's utterly terrified of Trump and so he just
Speaker 7: won't do it. So I don't blame him for not
Speaker 7: going to NATO, because he would look like a complete idiot.
Speaker 7: But the only solution now is to go to the
Speaker 7: White House, which he also won't do. So really, this
Speaker 7: is just typical Albanezi and so embarrassing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think he has to go to NATO.
Speaker 6: I mean it is the Northern Atlantic Treaty organization of
Speaker 6: which we are not a member, so there is no
Speaker 6: need for us to go.
Speaker 2: I Definity Prime Minister will be there and has been previous.
Speaker 6: We are, but we had this, We had this discussion
Speaker 6: last year when the Niputy Prime Minister went and I
Speaker 6: said exactly the same thing. I was quite happy for
Speaker 6: the Deputy Prime Minister to go.
Speaker 2: But this is NATO.
Speaker 3: This is about the fact that anthy Abenez he has
Speaker 3: zero relationship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: If he authority that he builds one.
Speaker 6: But if he went to NATO for the express purpose
Speaker 6: of seeing Donald Trump, you'd be sitting here saying, oh, well,
Speaker 6: you know, he's got to go over there just to
Speaker 6: sort of hope that he can get a little five
Speaker 6: minutes with Donald Trump. So hey can't win on that regard.
Speaker 3: Well, no, he can't win him. He spent so long
Speaker 3: neglecting any relationship. I know Donald Trump. But now he's
Speaker 3: chasing him around the world, or at least he should be.
Speaker 3: And yes, we'd mock him for chasing Trump around the
Speaker 3: world because it would never have gotten to that point.
Speaker 3: I totally agree easy that you have to chase Trump
Speaker 3: and you should be chasing Trump.
Speaker 6: Well, I no, I don't know that we need to
Speaker 6: chase him to NATO. I mean we should be chasing
Speaker 6: him into the White House.
Speaker 2: That's that's NATO. So go to NATO.
Speaker 6: Everybody was in the White House for the last four
Speaker 6: months anyway. My point is we don't have to go
Speaker 6: to NATO, and the discussions that will be happening at
Speaker 6: NATO will be of little consequence to Australia because we're
Speaker 6: not going to be party to them anyway. And Anthony
Speaker 6: Avenezy doesn't give a toss what they say at NATO,
Speaker 6: which will be as Frean mentioned before, the fact that
Speaker 6: they're all going to commit to five percent of GDP
Speaker 6: by the next decade being spent on defense. I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, to two point four percent if we get
Speaker 6: to it. And you can see down on the bottom
Speaker 6: of your screen there as Zelenski is addressing the Hague
Speaker 6: right now. But you know, if we get to two
Speaker 6: point four percent, that's nothing. I mean we could get
Speaker 6: to three and a half percent, which would take us
Speaker 6: to ninety seven billion dollars, which is another forty billion.
Speaker 6: Then we're spending now, and you know they'd say, oh, well,
Speaker 6: where we're going to get that money from? I mean,
Speaker 6: forty billion dollars is what we spend every year on
Speaker 6: aboriginal affairs. And where's that money go? So you could
Speaker 6: find the money if you wanted to. But I think
Speaker 6: the point is he doesn't have to go to NATO,
Speaker 6: and he shouldn't have to go to NATO to meet
Speaker 6: Donald Trump. He should be having a meeting with Donald
Speaker 6: Trump anyway. I don't care about the NATO bit. Just
Speaker 6: meet with Trump. How hard is it to do? And
Speaker 6: the other problem, of course, is that if he has
Speaker 6: that meeting on the backdrop of NATO with all the
Speaker 6: talk of defense spending, he would look like a fool.
Speaker 6: So why would you put yourself in that position?
Speaker 3: Well, he's going to look like a fool of Richard Miles,
Speaker 3: get's a meeting with Donald Trump and elbows back here.
Speaker 3: Celebrating the fiftieth birthday of SBS. Albani's was also asked
Speaker 3: about why it took him twenty four hours to make
Speaker 3: any comment at all about America's attack on Iram.
Speaker 2: Here's his response to that charge.
Speaker 10: There are some in the media who have a criticism
Speaker 10: of anything that the Labor government does. What my government
Speaker 10: does is act in an orderly, coherent way, and we
Speaker 10: were very clear for some period of time that Iran
Speaker 10: could not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 3: Did you notice when Anthony Albaneze said what my government
Speaker 3: does as we act in in a coherent, orderly way.
Speaker 3: He actually got a bit of a smirk when he
Speaker 3: said it, because he knows saying it does not make
Speaker 3: it true. And then he goes on to say, we've
Speaker 3: always said that Iran must not have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: But it's all very well to say that.
Speaker 3: What you've got to then go on and say, is
Speaker 3: therefore we support Israel doing whatever it takes to make
Speaker 3: sure they don't. And this is interesting how he now
Speaker 3: claims to support US action to rid Iran of uranium.
Speaker 3: But the US simply did what Israel were not supported
Speaker 3: in doing.
Speaker 2: It was the same thing.
Speaker 3: If America do it, begrudging support, but if Israel are
Speaker 3: trying to do it, well, Diplomacy de escalation and dialogue
Speaker 3: is the only language the Albanezy government know.
Speaker 7: If Israel or the US had actually followed the advice
Speaker 7: of Penny Wong and Anthony Albanezi, Iran would still have
Speaker 7: nuclear weapons. They are so, so, so stupid, and this
Speaker 7: is my skepticism of the ceasefire as well.
Speaker 8: When has Iran ever honored one of these international agreements?
Speaker 8: They don't.
Speaker 7: That's typically how authoritarian regimes work. They sign on the
Speaker 7: dotted line and then do whatever they want. So what
Speaker 7: does diplomacy, dialogue and de escalation with a wanna be
Speaker 7: nuclear power who's determined to.
Speaker 8: Destroy the West actually look like?
Speaker 7: It looks like absolutely nothing, because it would do nothing.
Speaker 8: This is how out of touch and naive they are.
Speaker 7: And I think the reason it probably took them twenty
Speaker 7: four hours to come up with anything was because they're
Speaker 7: waiting to see what Macron did and all their EU
Speaker 7: globalist friends, because that seems to be the only place
Speaker 7: they get foreign policy inspiration from these days.
Speaker 3: The problem was that the US strike happened on a Sunday,
Speaker 3: and it's very hard to organize a focus group on
Speaker 3: a Sunday, so they had to wait until Monday.
Speaker 2: Till they knew what to say.
Speaker 3: Speaking of which, you heard Penny Wong and others talking
Speaker 3: about Iran may well launch attacks. Outside of the Middle East,
Speaker 3: there are sleeper cells in different parts of the West.
Speaker 3: I reckon the biggest sleeper cell is in Canberra, where
Speaker 3: the Labor government have been very sleepy in failing to
Speaker 3: respond to any of this in a timely fashion. The Coalition,
Speaker 3: to their credit, who are still looking to me like
Speaker 3: a bit of a rabble who knows what the coalition
Speaker 3: are doing. But even they had to wherewithal to get
Speaker 3: on the front foot and support our major ally support Israel,
Speaker 3: while the Australian government put out an anonymous, vague sort
Speaker 3: of banal you know, we support peace kind of statement.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And by the way, before I continue on that, the
Speaker 6: German Chancellor of Frederic Mertz has just told Parliament there
Speaker 6: that the moment has come for a cease fire between
Speaker 6: Israel and Hamas in Gaza. And you'll remember Mert said
Speaker 6: last week that Israel was doing the world's dirty work
Speaker 6: in taking on around essentially. It's that's interesting development as well.
Speaker 6: I think the problem for the Albanezy government is that
Speaker 6: they have flip flopped so much on these things, and
Speaker 6: I think I've previously said that they've had more flip
Speaker 6: flops than Bondai Beach when it comes to this war,
Speaker 6: that they've actually forgot where they stand on anything. And
Speaker 6: so they've been caught a bit on the hop in
Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks with Israel of course going
Speaker 6: into Iran, and then of course the decision on the
Speaker 6: weekend of the United States to attack the nuclear sites
Speaker 6: because they're not sure how they can say, well, actually,
Speaker 6: we think the attack on the nuclear sites mightn't be
Speaker 6: a bad thing because it's good for the rest of
Speaker 6: the world without sounding like they're getting into bed with
Speaker 6: the United States and Israel on a war that they
Speaker 6: have essentially opposed for its entire existence. They can't walk
Speaker 6: and chew garm at the same time. They're too worried
Speaker 6: about how they're going to come across that they're not
Speaker 6: going to be, you know, logically consistent in any way.
Speaker 6: And I would say, well, who cares about that? I mean,
Speaker 6: I mean, surely in this case, even if we know
Speaker 6: what they've thought about the alban Easy and Wong have
Speaker 6: thought about the war all along, when they've spoken out
Speaker 6: of both sides of their mouth. But surely at this
Speaker 6: point you can say, regardless of all of that, what
Speaker 6: has happened here with Iran was the thing to do,
Speaker 6: remove it from the rest of the war and just
Speaker 6: say this was the right thing to do, not just
Speaker 6: for the region, but for the entirety of the world,
Speaker 6: because you know what, if Iran decides one day that
Speaker 6: they've got a nuclear bomb and they're going to attack
Speaker 6: the United States, who do you think is going to
Speaker 6: be going in to fight that war? US and Canada
Speaker 6: and the United Kingdom and all the Western allies. Do
Speaker 6: we want to be in that position?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 6: It should be as simple as.
Speaker 3: That, And yet the Albanezi government can't really express support
Speaker 3: for what has happened. Penny Wong and Anthony Albanezi over
Speaker 3: the weekend, when they were asked did they support what
Speaker 3: the US had done, they said something along the lines
Speaker 3: of we've always said Iran must not have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 3: America have removed that threat. That's what has happened. So
Speaker 3: that's a nice summary of what actually occurred, but it
Speaker 3: failed to address the key question that they were asked repeatedly,
Speaker 3: do you support Donald Trump in having sent bomb over there?
Speaker 3: To take those nuclear sites out. They couldn't bring themselves
Speaker 3: to say outright, yes, we support that action because in
Speaker 3: Israel and in Donald Trump, Labor have a nation and
Speaker 3: a leader, both of whom they are ideologically opposed to.
Speaker 3: Even when they do the right thing, as you said,
Speaker 3: for the good of the world, neither our foreign minister
Speaker 3: nor our Prime minister can bring themselves to acknowledge it.
Speaker 7: And this is a government that's spent the last eighteen
Speaker 7: months more obsessed with Israel's actions than with bringing the
Speaker 7: hostages home. They've talked more about sanctioning Israeli ministers than
Speaker 7: they have Iranian ayatollahs or Hamas members.
Speaker 8: They're Israel obsessed.
Speaker 7: And partly it's because many within their own ranks despise
Speaker 7: the nation and they're electorally exposed. At the last election,
Speaker 7: the Muslim vote did gain surprising traction on a very
Speaker 7: hard pro Palestine line. So I think Labor is genuinely terrified.
Speaker 7: And unfortunately for the Jewish community in Australia, there's such
Speaker 7: a tiny percentage of the population concentrated in seats that
Speaker 7: hold no electoral significance to Labor, and so they are
Speaker 7: simply ignored and the labor is prioritizing their own seats,
Speaker 7: their own voters, their own members of Parliament, their own
Speaker 7: feelings over facts, reality and morality.
Speaker 8: And that's what happens.
Speaker 7: And now they're confused and they don't know up from down,
Speaker 7: right from wrong.
Speaker 3: Indeed, Well, we'll bring you any more developments as they
Speaker 3: occur during the course of the show.
Speaker 2: Let's move on to some other news.
Speaker 3: A curious story out of Queensland where a boarding school
Speaker 3: in Charter's Towers, which facilitates education for children right throughout
Speaker 3: the state, offers chartered flights paid for by the government
Speaker 3: to well, not all their students, but to a select group.
Speaker 3: Indigenous students at the boarding school in Charter's Towers are
Speaker 3: able to board government paid chartered flights to Normanton, which
Speaker 3: is about five north of Mount Isa. It's about a
Speaker 3: two hour flight to get them home. But these flights
Speaker 3: are open only to Indigenous kids, not to white kids.
Speaker 2: Who go to the same school, live in the same town.
Speaker 3: In Normanton, but because they're not Indigenous, they don't get
Speaker 3: to go on these planes.
Speaker 2: Ben Fordham spoke to one of the fathers.
Speaker 3: Of these children, who also works as an air Traffic
Speaker 3: Services reporting officer at Normanton Airport, and you described this
Speaker 3: discriminatory situation.
Speaker 11: You are the air Traffic Services reporting officer at Normanton Airport.
Speaker 2: Correct, yes, mate.
Speaker 11: Okay, I'm told that you regularly see twenty seat government
Speaker 11: chartered planes arriving with fewer than half the seats occupied.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 9: That is true?
Speaker 11: And your two sons who board at school in Charter's towers,
Speaker 11: they're not allowed to get on the planes.
Speaker 9: No, they're not. Why of cause they don't fall under ab.
Speaker 11: Study, So the flights are only available to ab study recipients. Yes,
Speaker 11: and you've tried paying for seats on the planes, yep.
Speaker 9: And the carrier even agreed to take our money. But
Speaker 9: the booking company that now does it, which is overseas,
Speaker 9: wouldn't refuse to allow our children to get on because
Speaker 9: it doesn't they don't meet the.
Speaker 6: Criteria because of their skin color.
Speaker 9: That's how it seems.
Speaker 11: Well, what's the point in having empty seats on a plane.
Speaker 9: We don't understand it either. It's taxpayer funded and if
Speaker 9: we're even, if we're even if we weren't willing to pay,
Speaker 9: the plane is coming here. It's being paid for by
Speaker 9: everyone's taxes, whether you're indigenous or non indigenous.
Speaker 2: So Cali helped me understand this.
Speaker 3: You've got parents of white children saying, we'll pay there's
Speaker 3: empty seats, can our kids board this plane? Otherwise it's
Speaker 3: possibly a six day trip for these kids to get
Speaker 3: home to Normanton. And no, sorry, no white kids or
Speaker 3: non indigenous kids allowed on the aircraft.
Speaker 6: Well I mentioned before, they're forty billion dollars we spend
Speaker 6: every year on Aboriginal affairs, and where the hell does
Speaker 6: it go? Clearly some of it's going here. And would
Speaker 6: you say that's a useful spending of our money. I
Speaker 6: would say not. I mean, everything old is new again
Speaker 6: these days. Racism is back. In fact, racism is good
Speaker 6: as long as you do it to the right people,
Speaker 6: it would seem. I mean, you know, Rosa Parks. We
Speaker 6: all learned about that story at school, didn't we the
Speaker 6: idea that segregation on the way to school is a
Speaker 6: bad Well, you know now we're doing it. We are
Speaker 6: doing it because we say that it's a virtuous thing
Speaker 6: to do. On what basis do you deserve special treatment
Speaker 6: to go home to your parents because you happen to
Speaker 6: have Aboriginal heritage? Fat zero, I would say, you're no
Speaker 6: more deserving than anyone else to get a flight back home. Now,
Speaker 6: obviously these flights are available on the basis of ab study,
Speaker 6: which of course is government funding for education. When you
Speaker 6: have people saying we pay to go on the plane, look,
Speaker 6: even if you're going to run the the scheme where
Speaker 6: you've seen the Aboriginal kids home for free, why wouldn't
Speaker 6: you just say, sure, we'll let you pay to fill
Speaker 6: up the other seats. It might balance out the money
Speaker 6: that we're spending on putting the program off.
Speaker 7: It makes absolutely no sense and it's just not efficient either.
Speaker 7: Why not, as you said, just fill up the seats.
Speaker 7: But another group perhaps that's trying to, on the contrary,
Speaker 7: eliminate discrimination and promote inclusivity, but in a very bizarre
Speaker 7: and kind of gross way, is the New South Wales
Speaker 7: Teachers Federation, who in their Journal for Teachers have published
Speaker 7: new suggestions that.
Speaker 8: All teachers should remove.
Speaker 7: Gendered language and not for gender neutral expressions. So instead
Speaker 7: of saying good morning boys and girls, the Teachers Federation
Speaker 7: recommends teachers say hello epic and awesome humans. Oh my
Speaker 7: teacher said that to me, I would think that was
Speaker 7: so cringe, so apart from removing gender language. Teachers have
Speaker 7: also been advised to address their children their students with
Speaker 7: empowering language. So when they're studying maths, don't just say hey, kids,
Speaker 7: say hello mathematicians when they're in pe Hello athletes, when
Speaker 7: they're in art, you amazing artists. Doesn't this breed delusion
Speaker 7: into children they are not. They've also been instructed to
Speaker 7: refer to children as intellectuals. I don't know what you
Speaker 7: guys were doing in school. I would not describe myself
Speaker 7: as an intellectual.
Speaker 8: This is absurd.
Speaker 6: Referred to as speak to yourself. My favorite is change
Speaker 6: makers and future leaders. I mean, if you've got to
Speaker 6: the point where the biggest problem you have as a
Speaker 6: teacher is whether or not you address the class as
Speaker 6: boys and girls or epic humans, awesome humans, or students
Speaker 6: or every everyone, or critical thinkers or investigators, what you've
Speaker 6: solved all the problems it would seem in education. Remember
Speaker 6: this the next time the Teachers Federation and the Education
Speaker 6: Union come knocking and saying we need more money for
Speaker 6: education because we're not able to teach the kids adequately
Speaker 6: with the money we've got. Just remember that next time
Speaker 6: they're using their time and money to say you can't
Speaker 6: call people boys and girls. I think you could be
Speaker 6: focusing on other things.
Speaker 2: Very good point. We're going to take a break.
Speaker 3: We'll come backwards with what's making news tomorrow, including the
Speaker 3: Queensland government brings down a budget with a deficit bigger
Speaker 3: than at the worst point of the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 2: That and more.
Speaker 3: In just a moment, we welcome back. Let's look at
Speaker 3: what's making headlines tomorrow. We're talking earlier about Anthony Albaneze's
Speaker 3: struggles to meet with Donald Trump, but there's other meetings
Speaker 3: that are a foot frayer.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, indeed, Alberzi's faces date with Ji before oval
Speaker 7: office in mind, Anthony Albanzi could meet with Jijingping for
Speaker 7: a fourth time before getting his first face to face
Speaker 7: talks with Donald Trump amid preparations for a prime ministerial
Speaker 7: visit to Beijing around the middle of July. While the
Speaker 7: government is scrambling to secure a meeting between the US
Speaker 7: President and mister Albanesi in Washington, DC in coming weeks,
Speaker 7: plans for the Beijing trip are well advanced and could
Speaker 7: see him head to China first. Multiple sources familiar with
Speaker 7: preparations for the China visit for the nation's annual Leader's Talk,
Speaker 7: were still waiting on final confirmation that the Prime Minister
Speaker 7: would proceed with the mid July trip, despite the program
Speaker 7: having largely been finalized. I mean, isn't that just symbolic
Speaker 7: of where the state of relations are between Australia and
Speaker 7: China versus Australia and the US. Albanesi is about to
Speaker 7: have his fourth face to face meeting with Gigi Ping,
Speaker 7: yet he can't even manage one with Trump. Clearly he's
Speaker 7: not scared of China. He's very friendly with this.
Speaker 6: Well, what you're not taking into account is that all
Speaker 6: that Trump has said about Albanizi is that he's very
Speaker 6: friendly with him. And after the election, you see quote
Speaker 6: unquote the man that won, I'm calling him by name.
Speaker 6: He's very good, he's a friend of mine. Where is
Speaker 6: the Chinese say that Albanzi is a handsome board? I mean,
Speaker 6: would you not be rushing off for that kind of praise?
Speaker 3: Again, the optics would be very bad if Albanzi met
Speaker 3: with Jijingping before he met with Trump, because it's not
Speaker 3: just before, it's he would meet with Jijingping for a
Speaker 3: fourth time.
Speaker 2: Have it? Never? Never met with Trump, and normally.
Speaker 3: You say, well, it's optics, but optics are important right
Speaker 3: now because the whole world is choosing sides, and so
Speaker 3: when you're choosing sides, optics matters. It would not be
Speaker 3: a good look and I don't know that it would
Speaker 3: make his White House visit when eventually it happens and
Speaker 3: he smoother no.
Speaker 7: Hopefully this motivates him to secure a meeting with Trump,
Speaker 7: but he's got a narrow window, only a couple of
Speaker 7: weeks to get to the US and meet with Trump.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's looking too likely.
Speaker 7: Also in the Australian gs WARNING in round Table revamp,
Speaker 7: Jim Chalmers is recasting Anthony Albanesi's Productivity round Table as
Speaker 7: a broader economic reform Roundtable, securing the first seat in
Speaker 7: the exclusive talks for Opposition Treasury spokesman Ted O'Brien, while
Speaker 7: warning the labour dominated states that any ideas they bring
Speaker 7: on GSD and housing cannot favor self interest over the nation.
Speaker 7: The Treasurer has moved to rebrand The August meeting, first
Speaker 7: announced as a productivity round Table by mister Albanezi, comes
Speaker 7: ahead of a vital call.
Speaker 8: The treasure has.
Speaker 7: Scheduled with Donald Trump's top treasury official, Scott Besson on Wednesday,
Speaker 7: during which they'll discuss global economic uncertainty, trade and tariff tensions,
Speaker 7: and new critical minerals. I mean, what is this round
Speaker 7: table really going to achieve? Does anyone think, like, genuinely,
Speaker 7: does anyone think this round table is going to do anything.
Speaker 8: I'm not convinced.
Speaker 3: We're not around for Kevin Rudd's Big Ideas Symposium where
Speaker 3: do you remember Kevin Rudder was famously sat on the
Speaker 3: floor up against the wall while a bevy of famous
Speaker 3: Australians came up with amazing ideas that were never implemented exact.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing to me about this story is not
Speaker 3: so much what will be accomplished, but more the dynamics
Speaker 3: of Jim Chalmers starting to reframe the Prime Minister's idea
Speaker 3: from a proactivity round table to now a more general
Speaker 3: economic reform round table. It's just interesting watching that relationship
Speaker 3: and how it plays out over the next little while.
Speaker 3: Good that Ted O'Brien is there, as he should be,
Speaker 3: but yeah, Jim Chalmers just putting his little mark on
Speaker 3: this event, and.
Speaker 6: To be perfectly honest, good on him, because I would
Speaker 6: trust Jim Chalmers over Anthony Albert and easy for competence,
Speaker 6: it has to be said. And let's not forget, of course,
Speaker 6: that the reason Jim Chalmers is doctor Jim Charmers is
Speaker 6: because he has a PhD in Paul Keaton, and Paul
Speaker 6: Keating is arguably that the last great reforming treasurer we had.
Speaker 6: So look, this thing may well be a lot of
Speaker 6: hot air, but I have to say, even if it
Speaker 6: turns out to be so, I'm glad to hear someone
Speaker 6: genuinely talking for the first time in a very long time,
Speaker 6: at least about entertaining the idea of economic reform because
Speaker 6: it has been off the agenda for a very long
Speaker 6: time in this country and it's sorely needed.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: Speaking of economic reform, Queensland needs some. They release their
Speaker 3: state budget today and the headline tomorrow reads State budget
Speaker 3: train wreck. Treasurer awakes nursing Labour's COVID like deficit and
Speaker 3: record debt. Janetski's hangover is the headline. The article reads,
Speaker 3: The Queensland budget will remain a sea of red for
Speaker 3: the next four years as Treasurer David Jenetski struggles to
Speaker 3: fund Labour's cost blowouts and phantom programs.
Speaker 2: As revenue from the GST.
Speaker 3: And coal royalties dive, the budget deficit will reach eight
Speaker 3: point six billion dollars next year, worse than at the
Speaker 3: height of the pandemic. Now Janetski, of course, is going
Speaker 3: carefully because you'll remember some time ago when Campbell Newman
Speaker 3: was elected in a landslide to run Queensland and was
Speaker 3: promptly booted from office just a couple of years later,
Speaker 3: having gone very hard at cutting back spending trying to
Speaker 3: get the budget back into shape. He was punished for
Speaker 3: doing that, and so the LMP this time are advertising
Speaker 3: that they will move back into surplus in a responsible way.
Speaker 3: But for that to happen they'll need a couple of
Speaker 3: terms to do it. The only handout promised in the
Speaker 3: budget tomorrow for Queensland is there was a one hundred
Speaker 3: dollars payment per primary school student to help them get
Speaker 3: back to school next January. So the budget is tight
Speaker 3: and yet the deficit will will be large.
Speaker 6: Well, yes, sir, And that seems to be the case
Speaker 6: around the country at the moment, doesn't it. Before I
Speaker 6: get into the Daily Telegraph to report out of axios
Speaker 6: in the United States, about the phone call that happened
Speaker 6: between nitt Yahoo and Donald Trump. A White House source
Speaker 6: is saying that Trump spoke in an exceptionally and firm
Speaker 6: and direct way, quote unquote on his disapproval of the
Speaker 6: retaliation strike that Israel was about to carry out, and
Speaker 6: very firmly told nitt Yaho what needed to happen to
Speaker 6: sustain the ceasefire. The sourced quote, the Prime Minister understood
Speaker 6: the severity of the situation, the concerns Trump expressed, but
Speaker 6: Nittnah who basically told Trump that this was planned, this attack,
Speaker 6: and that there was no way essentially to stop it,
Speaker 6: and that they both eventually agreed to have the scale
Speaker 6: back attack that we saw on a radar near Tehran.
Speaker 6: So again, if there's any further details, we'll bring that
Speaker 6: to you. But getting back into the local news on
Speaker 6: the front of the Daily Telegraph tomorrow. The New South Wales,
Speaker 6: by the way, had a state budget today as well,
Speaker 6: and it's been relegated to a sidebar on the newspaper
Speaker 6: because there is a much bigger story in town, says
Speaker 6: Flaming Idiots. Businesses Fumobive Council's gas band businesses are pleading
Speaker 6: for Premier Chris Mins to fight back against the City
Speaker 6: of Sydney's anti gas crusade, fearing it could devastate the
Speaker 6: city's prized restaurant industry. And I love the photograph above
Speaker 6: it from a restaurateur, Naji Chew, saying that the anti
Speaker 6: gas drive could cruel her industry, saying, quote, you can't
Speaker 6: do Asian cooking on induction wots and she is absolutely right.
Speaker 6: I have to say, having been in rentals for a
Speaker 6: few years after I left lived left Adelaide, I've had
Speaker 6: until now electric cooktops everywhere I've lived. And when I
Speaker 6: moved into the joint I'm in now, Oh it has gas,
Speaker 6: and I was so happy. I said, I've got to
Speaker 6: go and get a walk so i can actually cook
Speaker 6: on gas again. Because it's true, there is no alternative
Speaker 6: to gas if you want proper high heat cooking. And
Speaker 6: she's right, can't cook properly in a Chinese restaurant of
Speaker 6: whatever with electric bagger all this how to save the
Speaker 6: planet stuff where you want good Chinese food?
Speaker 7: Amen to that, and just quickly before we go. In
Speaker 7: the Tasmanian Mercury, the headline is E Content crackdown the
Speaker 7: E Safety Commissioner has announced an imminent crackdown, forcing big
Speaker 7: tech to clamp down and restricting children from accessing porn,
Speaker 7: violent videos, and content that promotes disordered eating and self harm.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, coming up after the break.
Speaker 3: You won't believe what women in Melbourne are being asked
Speaker 3: to pay to listen to Hillary Clinton and Julia Gillard
Speaker 3: appearing as holograms talk about leadership.
Speaker 2: That's coming up in just a moment. Well, welcome back.
Speaker 3: In breaking news, Trump spoken to reporters on Air Force
Speaker 3: one as they make their way to the Hague for
Speaker 3: the NATO meeting, telling them he does not want to
Speaker 3: see regime change in Iran.
Speaker 2: He says that would lead to chaos.
Speaker 3: He also reveals that he's spoken to Vladimir Putin, insisting
Speaker 3: again that Iran must not get nuclear weapons. Apparently Vladimir
Speaker 3: Putin restated his offer to help mediate with Iran. There's
Speaker 3: no suggestion Trump has agreed to that, but there you go.
Speaker 3: Trump has, just in the recent moments, told reporters he
Speaker 3: doesn't want to see regime change in Iran.
Speaker 6: Kayleb Indeed and the Prime Minister's Office Benjaminitia, whose office
Speaker 6: is basically confirming the version of Vince I gave before
Speaker 6: about the phone call. Dave said, following prison, Trump's conversation
Speaker 6: with the Prime Minister Nitnya, who Israel refrained from further attacks. Ie.
Speaker 6: They were planning to carry out more than they did,
Speaker 6: but Trump convinced them to do otherwise. Before we go tonight,
Speaker 6: how would you like to pay three grand? Upwards of
Speaker 6: three grand? I think they're asking as much as thirty
Speaker 6: seven hundred dollars to go and watch a hologram of
Speaker 6: Julia Gillard and Hillary Clinton on zoom. This is some
Speaker 6: event being billed as the Women Unlimited Leadership Summit. It's
Speaker 6: being held all over the country. I think there's only
Speaker 6: one that's going to be attended in person by Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 6: which is in Sydney. The rest of them are going
Speaker 6: to have Julia Guillard as a hologram. For Heaven's sake,
Speaker 6: Lee's Sales is making appearance as well, but I think
Speaker 6: the only one she's attending in person is in Canberra.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, they say a fool and his
Speaker 6: money are soon parted. I think in this case it's
Speaker 6: got to be a fool in her money are soon parted,
Speaker 6: doesn't it?
Speaker 7: And the tickets start at three thousand dollars. Three thousand
Speaker 7: dollars to see a hologram of Hillary Clinton and Julia Gillard. No,
Speaker 7: thank you, but thinking But speaking of other stupid things
Speaker 7: people are spending money on. Have you ever felt burnt
Speaker 7: out and stressed by work? Well, some Sydney siders are
Speaker 7: forking out between six thousand and twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 7: on luxury burnout retreats where they do things like mentoring,
Speaker 7: breath work, meditation and nature immersion.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure that's just walking through the bush.
Speaker 7: But well, if you can charge twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 7: for it, that's a good business.
Speaker 8: Why not?
Speaker 2: Indeed, why not? That's it from us? Stick around.
Speaker 3: Coming up now our friends at Sky News UK with
Speaker 3: the latest on what's happening in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: Goodnight,