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Speaker 1: This is the Fits and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: We absolutely adore this man, and you know what, I

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 1: He's always taking himself out.

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Speaker 2: Of his comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: He's written a new book.

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Speaker 2: It's called Keep It Smooth and it's life lessons in confidence.

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Speaker 2: You can also catch his podcast with his beautiful wife

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Speaker 2: Allison on Separate Bathrooms on the Nava player app.

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Speaker 1: But Cameron Daddo will thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I love about this? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know you very well, but I never knew. And

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Speaker 3: this is chapter one and it explains that you had

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Speaker 3: a very bad stutter growing up.

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Speaker 1: Is that right? It is true?

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Speaker 4: Here, this is true and that's Cameron across. My mum

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Speaker 4: and dad gave me the hardest words to say. Is

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Speaker 4: my name cooka Cameron.

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Speaker 1: Even worse? And how did you get in the middle?

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Speaker 1: It's been a process. Fits.

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Speaker 4: I was helped by a teacher in year seven, a

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Speaker 4: headmaster at the school. He was the first one that

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Speaker 4: sort of mentored me. And then I had another teacher

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Speaker 4: when we lived in New Jersey who actually asked me

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Speaker 4: to read the Latin lesson every day, so it was getting.

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Speaker 1: Practiced doing that.

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Speaker 4: It came back during the Perfect Match years and then

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Speaker 4: it came back while I was doing Big River and.

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Speaker 1: It really Yeah, Charon has the same thing, Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that somebody music helps him work through it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the way I used to learn mathematical theories

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Speaker 4: when I was at school was write songs and put

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Speaker 4: it to make it lyrics.

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Speaker 1: I learned the song So when of the last time?

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Speaker 1: Do you still get panic attacks every now and then?

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Speaker 1: Can I do a little bit fits?

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Speaker 4: And it's usually only when I'm worried about once someone

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Speaker 4: else is thinking and you've got no control over that.

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Speaker 1: Do you now if you got better at that over

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Speaker 1: the years? I have ye.

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Speaker 3: Now, it's give a start to care I'm crowding six,

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Speaker 3: Chapter ten, couldn't care less give a fly?

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Speaker 2: This is what leads, This is what leads into confidence.

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Speaker 2: Cam actually asked me, gave me a phone call and said,

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Speaker 2: I'd love for you to be a part of this

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Speaker 2: book and tell me what your definition of confidence is,

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Speaker 2: how you feel about it, mate? And I had to

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Speaker 2: sit down and really really think about this for a

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Speaker 2: few days before I came back to you with an answer.

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Speaker 4: Fits your chapter in the book is beautiful because you

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Speaker 4: joined people like Keith Urban and Marsha Heines and people

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Speaker 4: from medicine and aeronautics and other places.

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Speaker 1: But your one is just so as you are. You're

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Speaker 1: a big hearted fellow.

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Speaker 4: It was really about making mistakes and getting out of

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Speaker 4: your comfort zone. Something that I have learned from doing

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Speaker 4: this and talking to all these different people is that

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Speaker 4: feeling of confidence doesn't usually come before you do something.

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Speaker 1: It comes after you've done it, exactly, so that.

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Speaker 4: Feeling of anxiety or pressure or whatever you're feeling before

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Speaker 4: you're about to embark on something where you know you're

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Speaker 4: out of your comfort zone, and it's in those pressurized

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Speaker 4: moments when everything's really myopic and you're thinking, you're thinking

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Speaker 4: everyone's look at you and worried about what you're saying

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Speaker 4: and how you're going to go.

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Speaker 1: It's like let it all go because you've got no

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Speaker 1: control over that.

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Speaker 2: It's like crazy how someone can make you feel better

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Speaker 2: in that moment as well, and whether it's a parent

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Speaker 2: or a mentor or I remember when my old man,

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Speaker 2: I hated doing the four hundred meters at athletics, hated

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Speaker 2: knowing that I'm going to push my body to the

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Speaker 2: limit every time, and I used to get so nervous,

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Speaker 2: and I used to say to Dad, Dad, I can't

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Speaker 2: do this, I'm too nervous. He did this great thing

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Speaker 2: cam where he would look around at the other competitors

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Speaker 2: in the race, and he goes, see how relaxed that

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Speaker 2: kid is over there. He's not nervous, and he's the

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Speaker 2: one that should be worried, because if you are nervous,

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Speaker 2: that's a good thing. He said, that means that your

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Speaker 2: adrenaline's pumping and your blood's pumping in your body, and

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Speaker 2: you're ready to go. And it used to make me

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Speaker 2: feel so relaxed in that moment.

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Speaker 1: It is mentors are really important.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the chapter where you might show

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Speaker 3: some nervous in it, going into a few LA parties

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Speaker 3: and some of the things you did over the years

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Speaker 3: living in the US.

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Speaker 1: Does the book go into some of that game, Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit. There's I think there's a little

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Speaker 1: strip club action. I got a big job.

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Speaker 3: A sption here that says, do not read to my wife.

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Speaker 4: Well, I will say that I vetted everything with her

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Speaker 4: and said he okay with all this.

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Speaker 1: As anyone else that I wrote about it extraordinary guy.

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Speaker 4: The thing about like Keith appears on stage there is

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Speaker 4: such a brilliant performer.

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Speaker 1: And he shared this tale with me.

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Speaker 4: It's in the book where he was playing with his

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Speaker 4: band in Queensland and Keith was just a player in

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Speaker 4: the back.

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Speaker 1: He says, why don't you stand out the front and.

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Speaker 4: Do a solo, you know, put your foot on the wedge.

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Speaker 4: And he goes, nah, because they'll think I'm ad, And

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Speaker 4: the guy says, Rusty's name was. Rusty says to Keith,

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Speaker 4: well are you and he said no, and he said.

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Speaker 1: We'll go do it and do it yeah. So he

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Speaker 1: put his foot on the wedge that night.

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Speaker 4: And Bloody played a screaming lead break and look at him. Now.

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Speaker 4: He was great for me because he supported my first record.

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Speaker 4: So he came out from Nashville with his band and

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Speaker 4: they backed me. So, you know, Keith singing harmonies on

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Speaker 4: my album, playing lead guitar on my record, and his

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Speaker 4: ass was out of his pants.

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Speaker 1: In terms of Nashville, he was really struggling.

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Speaker 4: And then at that point I'm thinking I'm the one

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Speaker 4: with the record deal and Keith's been in it for

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Speaker 4: twenty years at this point, so I went through a

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Speaker 4: real crisis of confidence, going I don't deserve this. So

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Speaker 4: what I learned from that moment, if you are in

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Speaker 4: a place wherever you are, you deserve to be there

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Speaker 4: because simply by the fact you are there and take

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Speaker 4: a space, tell your story, do your job.

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Speaker 2: The confidence it is, it's an addiction. It's something that

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Speaker 2: you need in your life. And you're always looking for

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Speaker 2: answers and if you want them. This is a great book.

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Speaker 2: It's called Keep It Smooth Life Lessons in Confidence. It's

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Speaker 2: out now and also, like I said, separate bathrooms. You

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Speaker 2: can catch on the Nova Player app. We Love you, Cam,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for coming in brother.

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