Speaker 1: Boxing Day, Black Friday Supercoach preseason. Everyone loves a bargain,
Speaker 1: especially here on the official Supercoach AFL show, and there
Speaker 1: are more bargains in Supercoach twenty twenty five than you
Speaker 1: can poke a stick at. We discussed a bunch of
Speaker 1: them a few days ago on our Mid Price Madness show.
Speaker 1: Go back and listen to that one if you missed it. That,
Speaker 1: of course, is anywhere you listen to your podcast, plus
Speaker 1: the Code Sports channel on YouTube you get all your
Speaker 1: Supercoach content. This season, we had to draw the line
Speaker 1: there somewhere for mid prices, and that was at three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, but the potential game changes that don't
Speaker 1: stop there. With a surprising list of experienced players available
Speaker 1: in the real bargain bin under three hundred k, and
Speaker 1: today we'll sort through those names and find the players
Speaker 1: who are viable options for our twenty twenty five Super
Speaker 1: Coach teams. I'm your host, Al Payton, and with me
Speaker 1: again is Dos Doskret to have you back with us
Speaker 1: to talk more Supercoach value.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you get stuck in? Probably not as big
Speaker 2: big a pool we've got to pick from as we
Speaker 2: did in the mid Price Madness episode just the other day,
Speaker 2: But still keen to find those value picks that really
Speaker 2: could be some of the winning picks this year if
Speaker 2: we get it right.
Speaker 1: And Dan Banden joining us for the first time in
Speaker 1: this new Supercoach year. Dan, we know you're a real
Speaker 1: rookie guru, but this might be stretching your talents somewhat.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you've got some good names for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've actually been a little bit out of the
Speaker 3: super Coach loop so far this season. We're focusing on
Speaker 3: super Coach BBO, which has been the band of my existence,
Speaker 3: all those laid out and things. But looking forward to
Speaker 3: jumping on and hopefully we can find a few value
Speaker 3: picks for those listening.
Speaker 1: And joining us. Today's special guests a longtime friend of
Speaker 1: the show, host of the Footy Mailbag podcast, Damo, Welcome aboard,
Speaker 1: and looking at that jumper in the background, Free, I
Speaker 1: might have a couple of juicy little bargains for us
Speaker 1: when we get to those during the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they might do. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah,
Speaker 4: some nice cheap guys to have a look at in
Speaker 4: this episode.
Speaker 1: Hopefully absolutely so. The format here will be similar to
Speaker 1: what we did for our mid pressure a bit of
Speaker 1: a draft, going around the room calling out names that
Speaker 1: we want to discuss. Now, as I said, this isn't
Speaker 1: really about rookies as such, but I thought off the top,
Speaker 1: we might mention a few names potentially who are sort
Speaker 1: of older rookies that have been around for a few years.
Speaker 1: But we haven't really seen much of them, and they're
Speaker 1: still in the very very cheap bracket, so they won't
Speaker 1: be the main content of the show. But we'll mention
Speaker 1: a few names. And I mean, Dan, this is really
Speaker 1: your wheelhouse. So is there anybody there that you think
Speaker 1: could be a real option for us this season?
Speaker 3: I think the big one is probably Josh kibkiss Penny
Speaker 3: on his injury. He's been a rookie for us before
Speaker 3: and made a heap of cash and obviously a lot
Speaker 3: of us jumped on last year, and you know, we
Speaker 3: made the feel of pain when he suffered that injury
Speaker 3: so so early into the season. But if he Getty's
Speaker 3: body right, I think there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 3: footy down there for the Tigers.
Speaker 5: So and he's intercep King, so I like him.
Speaker 3: He's still at a really good price at one fifty
Speaker 3: three K and he made about one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: CAH on his starting price a few years ago when
Speaker 3: he was a rookie, so he's.
Speaker 5: Dead definitely one to consider.
Speaker 3: I've been down at Gelong training a bit for my
Speaker 3: role at a Gelong Advertiser and Mitch Never is looking good.
Speaker 3: I think he pumped out about a two hundred and
Speaker 3: ten score and in the last VFL game of the
Speaker 3: season he's at one hundred and forty nine K. As
Speaker 3: a midfielder, he's you know, even Dansfield said during the
Speaker 3: preseason at the beginning of the preseason sort of tipped
Speaker 3: him to be a part of that midfield group to
Speaker 3: start the season he was playing more inside than outside
Speaker 3: in the VFL.
Speaker 5: So he's another to look at. Zach Reid. He's he's
Speaker 5: just a perennial rookie, isn't he.
Speaker 3: You know, he's made a paper But you know, at
Speaker 3: that price, if he is playing, you'd think surely if
Speaker 3: he's fit, he's.
Speaker 5: Playing in that essenonce side.
Speaker 3: Another bomber as well, in a Lijah status was an
Speaker 3: absolutely ball magnet at junior level and a VFL level
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 5: Just whether he gets that midfield role.
Speaker 3: That's probably the only question mark because you can certainly
Speaker 3: find the footy and Neil Erasmus as well from the Dockers,
Speaker 3: one of Demo's men over there Ford midfielder and at
Speaker 3: a pretty good price as well. Just be whether it
Speaker 3: can squeeze into that pretty stacked free O midfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to throw it to Demo on
Speaker 1: that one. I mean, he's been putting up some big
Speaker 1: numbers in the Waffle. I know the Phantom is a
Speaker 1: big fan, but yeah, can you see a spot for
Speaker 1: him in the best twenty three or twenty two of
Speaker 1: the Dockers.
Speaker 4: Well, with Fife and Welters going under the knife to
Speaker 4: fix up, to fix up their knees, maybe he might
Speaker 4: get a role to start the season and be a
Speaker 4: good money maker over the first six or seven weeks
Speaker 4: and someone we can jump off pretty quickly, but someone
Speaker 4: we can start with to get a nice run of
Speaker 4: scores from.
Speaker 1: And yes, Dan mentioned the fact that he's a forward
Speaker 1: mid two. That helps because we need some players for
Speaker 1: our forward bench. Is another one in that category. Dos
Speaker 1: over in the Eagles, which I know you're watching very closely.
Speaker 1: Elijah Hewitt, how is he shaping up this prison, but
Speaker 1: we actually get a chance to see how good the
Speaker 1: Eagles think he can be.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope so yeah, I think from you know,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen too much yet coming out of Eagles,
Speaker 2: but I think, yeah, if we get a good look
Speaker 2: at him in the preseason, there's nothing like he should
Speaker 2: be basically in every team. I think. You know, it
Speaker 2: was a highly touted pick, could play through the midfield,
Speaker 2: even had some bursts through the midfield in his rookie year,
Speaker 2: but then missed the entirety of last season. So he's
Speaker 2: coming into basement price, you know, heading into that third season.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a no brainer pick if
Speaker 2: he does, if his body does hold up in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice. All right, Well, we'll get now into the
Speaker 1: really interesting names, which is going to be a bit
Speaker 1: more fun, I think, and especially when we get to
Speaker 1: some of these late picks. I reckon we'll be coming
Speaker 1: up with some pretty juicy ones. But what was the
Speaker 1: draft order that we came up with. I think I'm
Speaker 1: running last again.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the draft order we have today, which I
Speaker 2: did sort of have to make some shuffles for a
Speaker 2: few laid outs here, but Dan's coming up with the
Speaker 2: number one pick.
Speaker 5: Al, you're coming.
Speaker 2: Second today, Oh, ok, not too far down. Then it's
Speaker 2: me and then we've stitched our guests up the final
Speaker 2: spot in the draft. As we know, we're not doing
Speaker 2: a snake draft. This isn't really a draft in terms
Speaker 2: of who you'd pick first, who you'd pick last in
Speaker 2: this sort of positions. It's just more your gut feel
Speaker 2: who you want to pick and who you want to
Speaker 2: talk about in these under three hundred k brackets. So
Speaker 2: we're not talking about it as a draft. It's just
Speaker 2: sort of to get just to have a bit of
Speaker 2: fun with this episode out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so Dan over to you. We'll call it
Speaker 1: the number one pick. You're on the clock.
Speaker 3: I'm going to take a bit of a cop out
Speaker 3: and it's probably going to take me about ten seconds
Speaker 3: to lodge this pick in this bracket. Caleb Daniel, he's
Speaker 3: priced at fifty average, which is just insane for someone
Speaker 3: who's all Australian in the past, and someone who's been
Speaker 3: a pretty consistent super coach scorer when he's had the role.
Speaker 3: He hasn't had the role of the past couple of years.
Speaker 3: Was the sub eight times last season when he got
Speaker 3: absolutely bevoed but scored ninety seven one hundred in his
Speaker 3: last two games for the Bulldogs. And you know, even
Speaker 3: his manager was saying when he got traded to North
Speaker 3: Melbourne that he wanted to be happy and free and
Speaker 3: obviously spoke about that that half back role, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's a nice fit there for North Melbourn.
Speaker 5: They need someone to you know, to use the ball. Well,
Speaker 5: they had Zack.
Speaker 3: Fisher, you know, for crying out loud, that's who they
Speaker 3: turned too off half back. So I think he's one
Speaker 3: who's going to take all those points. You know, even
Speaker 3: mckirche does he move more into the midfield in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five, I think it's only a matter of time
Speaker 3: until he does.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, Caleb Daniels just yeah, you know, throw away
Speaker 5: the key. I think.
Speaker 1: Anyone wan who think of a reason not to pick
Speaker 1: Caleb daniel like I haven't got.
Speaker 4: Any, seems pretty straightforward there because average ninety three hundred
Speaker 4: and one and ninety nine at the in the three
Speaker 4: seasons that he was playing that role. So even if
Speaker 4: he only replicates that the ninety three, that's still a
Speaker 4: good selection at two sixty nine k yeah.
Speaker 6: One percent.
Speaker 1: I mean He's one that you could imagine being a
Speaker 1: season long keeper for two hundred and fifty ode thousand.
Speaker 1: So yeah, pretty hard to overlook that we jumped straight
Speaker 1: to the second pick then, And I've got a few
Speaker 1: names I must sleep, but I better go with the
Speaker 1: guy before anybody else picks him, and that is Tom
Speaker 1: Lynch at the Tigers one hundred and eighty three thousand,
Speaker 1: which is an equivalent of a thirty five average. That's
Speaker 1: really rookie level. And you know, we've talked about Tom
Speaker 1: a bit on some of our pods already because obviously
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan as a Richmond manon just desperate
Speaker 1: to see him get back out there. He only played
Speaker 1: four games in each of the last two seasons, hasn't
Speaker 1: played a full season since twenty nineteen, so he's always
Speaker 1: got those issues with his body, and that's obviously the
Speaker 1: big red flag on him and the watchover preseason. But
Speaker 1: touch Wood at the moment, he's looking pretty good. Went
Speaker 1: down U Punt Road just before Christmas and he was
Speaker 1: looking absolutely ripped. Took part in some of the matches
Speaker 1: him was moving nicely. So I just hope he gets
Speaker 1: through to least round one and hopefully enough into the
Speaker 1: season to at least make us some money. Obviously, key
Speaker 1: forward's always a bit of a lottery, and you know,
Speaker 1: playing key forward for Richmond is probably not going to
Speaker 1: be the most lucrative role he could imagine. I mean,
Speaker 1: you go back to that twenty twenty two season when
Speaker 1: he averaged ninety four for the year, and he finished
Speaker 1: the season with some really high school I think he
Speaker 1: had a purple patch in the middle of the year
Speaker 1: where he went one sixty seven point eight four one
Speaker 1: seventy seven in a three week patch. So that'll be amazing.
Speaker 1: But I'm not expecting anything like that. But if he
Speaker 1: can just grab a bag of three or four a
Speaker 1: couple of times Spikey price, that might be enough for
Speaker 1: us to just make a quick hundred hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: k out of him and trade him on. But no
Speaker 1: early buy for the Tigers. They played their first game
Speaker 1: in Round one, So if he's named in that team,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be in more super coos team,
Speaker 1: maybe on the field or on the bench. You could
Speaker 1: probably put him on the bench with the emergency, but
Speaker 1: that's that's getting a bit ahead of ourselves. But yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm a big Tom Lynch fan, So am I
Speaker 1: am I just blinked by my Tiger supporting views or
Speaker 1: is there something genuine there? Does he?
Speaker 2: I mean at his price and given you know he's
Speaker 2: a veteran of the game, if he gets on the park,
Speaker 2: he's should be value. But I don't know if I
Speaker 2: can bring myself to bring in a key forward at
Speaker 2: Richmond season. So I think you're guaranteed to use a trade.
Speaker 2: And if we see an injury, which you know, unfortunately
Speaker 2: has plagued his career late in his career, you're just
Speaker 2: going to waste the trade. And does he even go
Speaker 2: up that much in value, I might just start with
Speaker 2: someone that is the basement type. If we do get
Speaker 2: those players named round one before the game open, like
Speaker 2: when round one begins, I might be tempted to just
Speaker 2: save that cash. And you know he's if he's going
Speaker 2: ballistic in the first couple, I might be happy to trade,
Speaker 2: say a failed mid price it down to a Tom
Speaker 2: Lynch rather than to start with him personally. But you know,
Speaker 2: you talk about his history and he should be under
Speaker 2: price based on that. But I think I'd be happy
Speaker 2: starting with someone a little bit cheaper and banking, say
Speaker 2: sixty K to spend elsewhere to stuff the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting point. Whether you could afford to
Speaker 1: just watch him for a couple of weeks. His price
Speaker 1: isn't going to move, and then yeah, if you feel
Speaker 1: like there is something there that you need that you
Speaker 1: can maybe move a few deck chairs and try and
Speaker 1: get him in. Although that price might be a little
Speaker 1: bit awkward, but yeah, given that the risk that comes
Speaker 1: with him, that probably is a sensible way to attack it.
Speaker 1: But Danny, do you like Tom Lynch and who you
Speaker 1: got for us with your pick? He already done, I've
Speaker 1: already picked out. It's not Richmond at the draft. I
Speaker 1: don't have every pick in the top ten. But I
Speaker 1: don't know about Lynch.
Speaker 3: But I think I was one of the ones who
Speaker 3: didn't pick Joey Danaher when he was cut price, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I was really made to pay out. I sort of
Speaker 3: had that attitude of oh, ja, he's a key forward.
Speaker 3: He could really stink it up. But I think even
Speaker 3: Charlie Kerno as well that year I passed on him,
Speaker 3: And yeah, he ended up firing, not so much at
Speaker 3: the start of the season, but ended up, you know,
Speaker 3: making a fair bit of cash. So yeah, he's on
Speaker 3: the park. Yeah, he'll definitely be in calculation. But I
Speaker 3: think the other thing as well is there's just so
Speaker 3: much value in the forward line, and so you know,
Speaker 3: it's type for spots. So he's probably going to need
Speaker 3: to be showing a bit in the preseason to justify
Speaker 3: its selecting him, especially if.
Speaker 5: There's a few rookies, cheaper rookies around as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for your point, I think Oscar Allen's another
Speaker 1: one who's shown that key forwards can be money makers,
Speaker 1: but you sort of have to ride the rollercoaster a
Speaker 1: bit with him. Now we'll get to Demo. Sorry, but
Speaker 1: that I've maked w the order already, so I'm terrible
Speaker 1: at this. Whoever's big it's supposed to be, now, feel
Speaker 1: free to jump in.
Speaker 2: I'll jump in because I really want this guy. And
Speaker 2: we did stitch up Damo, so I'm hoping that this
Speaker 2: wasn't your first pick. Demos did stitch up. But my
Speaker 2: man Taylor made for a second year breakout ari show
Speaker 2: and maker at two one hundred and seventy five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Haven't heard his name too much this preseason, but only
Speaker 2: played the four games last year average sixty four super
Speaker 2: Coach points. We still saw some impressive highlights though, with
Speaker 2: that booming left peg and elite disposal. The thing that
Speaker 2: I really like about him this year, there's no Josh Battle.
Speaker 2: He's off to the Hawks. There's no Riley Bonner who
Speaker 2: was delisted. That's twenty three games and nineteen games from
Speaker 2: their defense gone this season. Ari's going to come in
Speaker 2: there and mop up all that. All those possessions took
Speaker 2: kickins last year, even with guys like Jack Sinclair and
Speaker 2: Asia Wanganeen Miller in the side, had a massive kick
Speaker 2: to handball ratio in those in those four games, four
Speaker 2: point twenty seven kick to handball ratio in the AFL.
Speaker 2: That was twelfth overall of all players, and among defenders
Speaker 2: the guys above him was only people like Luke Ryan,
Speaker 2: Steven May and Econo McKenna randomly as well in there.
Speaker 2: But for me, you know, last year, this time last year,
Speaker 2: he was doing conditioning blocks in January February last year
Speaker 2: to get up to AFL standard and was even made
Speaker 2: to do some VFL training at this time last year.
Speaker 2: So from what we've seen, he's training with the main
Speaker 2: team he's my man for a big, big breakout in
Speaker 2: year two, and at two hundred and seventy k, you
Speaker 2: know you can just slot him in defense. Got a
Speaker 2: great buy as well, had some massive NFL numbers, so
Speaker 2: Ari shall make it. I'm big on in this price bracket.
Speaker 3: I did own him late last year and he is
Speaker 3: very fun to own because every time he kicks it,
Speaker 3: it's always fifty five to a contest, and he did
Speaker 3: have a couple of bigger games. The one I guess
Speaker 3: counterpoint is Toby Trevalia coming in. Does he take those points?
Speaker 3: Does he take the role?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: If I think Ari his kicking is a huge plus
Speaker 3: because he can kick it sixty on a bad day
Speaker 3: and really, you know, with his penetrating kick really set
Speaker 3: it up for defense. But yeah, it would be interesting
Speaker 3: to see if his role, if he is a lock
Speaker 3: in there and if he is that number one distributor
Speaker 3: from the Saints defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's a good PI. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he quite fits the criteria for this is his second
Speaker 1: year rookie. I've really been looking.
Speaker 2: At Okay though, that's that's smoky.
Speaker 5: I reckon that calls that counts.
Speaker 1: Let it, Damo we've finally get to you who we
Speaker 1: haven't taken all the guys you had in mind.
Speaker 4: No, luckily not. I'm I'm looking at Tom Douday at
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty six K, so he's priced at
Speaker 4: forty nine. He averaged seventies and eighties at the Crows,
Speaker 4: but in twenty twenty one he finished with an eighty
Speaker 4: five point four average for the year. But first nine
Speaker 4: games average ninety two point three and then the last
Speaker 4: five games average ninety point two. And we know what
Speaker 4: the Crows, they didn't always have the most conventional key
Speaker 4: defender setup, so when he had his low games, that's
Speaker 4: probably when he had to be stationed back in a
Speaker 4: lockdown role. But now is at Brisbane obviously a year
Speaker 4: out of the system with the ACL, but I don't
Speaker 4: think he plays too much lockdown with Stacevich, Payne and
Speaker 4: Andrews all down there, and his high ceiling games came
Speaker 4: when he was able to roam up to the wing
Speaker 4: and go across half back and intercept and distribute a
Speaker 4: bit more. So two fifty six K even if he
Speaker 4: only gets up to his eighties average, he's still going
Speaker 4: to make a bit of money for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I must have been when I looked up some
Speaker 1: isn't them as I was a bit surprised by some
Speaker 1: of those eighties and scores and above that which I
Speaker 1: thought he was a real lockdown, fullback kind of guy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously he has the potential to score a bit.
Speaker 1: But hasn't been much news around him over the summer.
Speaker 1: Do we know if he's how he's tracking on that
Speaker 1: sort of injury comeback.
Speaker 4: I don't think it was a like a full tear
Speaker 4: that he did of his ACL when he did it,
Speaker 4: so I don't think they were worried about him being
Speaker 4: out for any proportion of this season. But I don't
Speaker 4: know if he's in full training yet. But we saw
Speaker 4: how good Will Ashcroft was after his recovery, so we
Speaker 4: know that Brisbane know the you know, the steps to
Speaker 4: make their players return in the best possible condition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely want to put on the radar. So
Speaker 1: I think now we go back around to it is
Speaker 1: your turn again, Dan, right as you say with the Times.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we got got another name we can put
Speaker 1: on our watch list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going another line. I'm surprised is slid this far?
Speaker 3: What an absolute slide? Are Kitty Coleman at two sixty
Speaker 3: nine K a little bit out of sight, out of mind,
Speaker 3: but at that price, it's it's hard to miss him
Speaker 3: when you're scrolling down the list trying to look at
Speaker 3: defender options to seventy K. Obviously suffered that that acl
Speaker 3: in in the first round of last season, but you
Speaker 3: look at you know what sticks in my mind is
Speaker 3: that twenty twenty three Final Series. He pumped out of
Speaker 3: one twenty seven in the prelium against the Blues and
Speaker 3: then it was pretty much best on ground in the
Speaker 3: first half of that Grand Final against Collingwood with a
Speaker 3: he had twenty six disposals, six tackles, eight marks, seven
Speaker 3: rebound fifties, one hundred twenty seven super Coach points again,
Speaker 3: so that's back to back one twenty sevens from his
Speaker 3: last three, last two completed games, and you think that
Speaker 3: he's got a pretty defined role there for the Lions.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's quite a good pick there
Speaker 3: in defense with there's obviously a few other options like
Speaker 3: Callum Mills and think that sort of cheaper sort of
Speaker 3: a price range, but yeah, I think he's probably going
Speaker 3: to be in my team.
Speaker 5: I would have thought and you're.
Speaker 3: I guess the one question mark maybe is does he
Speaker 3: take kick ins? But you know, I'm probably getting Kitty
Speaker 3: Calmen to take kick ins over maybe a Connor McKenna.
Speaker 5: Race back does Yeah, he might be.
Speaker 3: It might be of a race there back to the
Speaker 3: and yeah, hopefully it doesn't run too fast into his acl again.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's probably the only real question mark. So
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see where he slots him. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's great, a great priced.
Speaker 1: How much are you thinking about the fixture at this
Speaker 1: stage when we were already talking about a colem when
Speaker 1: maybe a due day and then you know Colla Mills,
Speaker 1: these guys and they all have a by in round three.
Speaker 1: Is that something we should be panicking about in early January?
Speaker 4: I mean, keep it in the back of your minds.
Speaker 4: But it's it's it's only just the team pick. You
Speaker 4: just play around find the players you like. But yeah,
Speaker 4: Kitty Colbert, like twelve months ago, he was in a
Speaker 4: lot of teams at three ninety eight K and now
Speaker 4: two sixty nine K, so he should be just as popular.
Speaker 4: Finished twenty twenty three with an average of ninety four
Speaker 4: point nine if you include the finals. So I mean
Speaker 4: over the last ten games. I mean, so I see
Speaker 4: no reason why people shouldn't pick him. And even in
Speaker 4: that game that he tore his ACL in, he scored
Speaker 4: thirty seven in forty four percent game time, which is
Speaker 4: a pretty good points per minute. So yeah, he should
Speaker 4: be pretty popular this this this year at two sixty
Speaker 4: nine K.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's another one will obviously be watching pretty close
Speaker 1: over preseason to say how he's tracking on the comeback
Speaker 1: from that ACL. So if I am looking at things rightly,
Speaker 1: I think I have the next pick, and I'm going
Speaker 1: with a crow in Isaac Cumming, former Giant who I
Speaker 1: have picked in Super Coach in the past, price at
Speaker 1: just fifty three average this year two hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: seven K, after really sort of falling off the radar
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. He averaged ninety two
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one and ninety four in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, to think I must have picked him in
Speaker 1: one of those years, but in twenty twenty three that
Speaker 1: fell to sixty nine, and then he only played four
Speaker 1: games last year, although he did come back in for
Speaker 1: the finals and scored sixty four and one oh three,
Speaker 1: so sort of pricks up your attention and then he
Speaker 1: moves over to the Crows, where you think, obviously they've
Speaker 1: got an idea if they want to play him for start,
Speaker 1: which that's an immediate boost. I guess the big issue
Speaker 1: is going to be weird does he fit into that
Speaker 1: Crows team and if he's in the back line taking
Speaker 1: kick ins, which is something he's done in the past,
Speaker 1: I think that is you know what I really want
Speaker 1: to see. He only took one kick in for the
Speaker 1: whole of last year and he didn't play on from it.
Speaker 1: But if you go back to twenty twenty one, he
Speaker 1: took one hundred and forty and played on from seventy
Speaker 1: seven percent. In twenty twenty two he took one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty nine kickings and played on from ninety percent.
Speaker 1: So no convincedence. That's when he was scoring really well.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's just a really close watch in
Speaker 1: the preseason to see exactly where he's playing. I think
Speaker 1: he's had a bit of a hamstring niggle already, which
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a setback, which is something
Speaker 1: that he's had some problems with, So that's not ideal,
Speaker 1: but you'd want to get him back in you know,
Speaker 1: if at least for those preseason games and get a
Speaker 1: good look at him. But at that price, he's another one.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about James Peeling the other day,
Speaker 1: you know, could you potentially pick both of them? But yeah,
Speaker 1: another real serious option there in the midfield. I think it,
Speaker 1: you know, just the under three hundred k price range.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the injury concern early, it's just it's it's
Speaker 2: something that, yeah, unfortunately must be talked about. But do
Speaker 2: you really I guess I'll throw it a damo. Do
Speaker 2: you see him getting back to those GWS ways or
Speaker 2: do you do you think sort of the game has
Speaker 2: sort of sped up a fair bit seen he was
Speaker 2: doing those those big numbers, taking lots of kick ins.
Speaker 2: Do you think he can still have a big enough
Speaker 2: impact to Obviously he's dirt cheap, so you know you'd
Speaker 2: expect him to go up a little a fair bit regardless,
Speaker 2: but as a midfield slot, you kind of it. It's
Speaker 2: pretty valuable slot to be using on eyes at coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say, I love everything about
Speaker 4: the selection, apart from the fact that he's a mid only.
Speaker 4: It's an awkward price to having your midfield, especially with
Speaker 4: all the other value in there. So like if it
Speaker 4: was a defender, I reckon he would be rivaling you know,
Speaker 4: the likes of you Kittie Coleman's and you Callum Mills'
Speaker 4: selection in the back line. But as a midfielder, is
Speaker 4: he really worth using one of your midfield spots for him,
Speaker 4: especially when you've got the likes of James Petling as well.
Speaker 4: That's about eighty k more. That's probably going to be
Speaker 4: a little bit more fruitful, a bit more of a
Speaker 4: fruitful selection for you. So yeah, I'm not sure. I mean,
Speaker 4: he might get to his mid nineties average again playing
Speaker 4: that half back role, you know, basically emulating what Brodie
Speaker 4: Smith has done, but is that enough for you to
Speaker 4: select him in your midfield.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a fair question. I mean I think he's a
Speaker 1: definite candidate to get DPP maybe at round six, whether
Speaker 1: that helps it all sort of, And we'd pick a
Speaker 1: few of us picked Nick Martin last year under that
Speaker 1: theory that at that time he could swing him back
Speaker 1: to the back line. But yeah, it's hard when there's
Speaker 1: only so many slots to go in the midfield and
Speaker 1: we have as Dan keeps telling us all these amazing
Speaker 1: rookies that we want to pick in there as well.
Speaker 1: He might score well for you know, fifty or hundred
Speaker 1: k cheaper than coming. So yeah, he's He's definitely not
Speaker 1: a lock, but yeah, definitely someone I like the look
Speaker 1: of and as I said, I have picked him in
Speaker 1: the past and he's been good to me, So I'm
Speaker 1: keen to see how he goes over at the Crows.
Speaker 5: Does he take the kick ins you reckon at the Crows?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I mean again, yeah, we
Speaker 1: just have to watch and see. I don't think they
Speaker 1: had a real obvious designated kick in taker last year,
Speaker 1: so that's potentially open. But he has also been known
Speaker 1: to sort of slide up onto a wing, and you know,
Speaker 1: we definitely don't want him doing that. So yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see what the role looks like. He starts seeing some
Speaker 1: some intro clubs and mutual practice matches.
Speaker 5: Mark, Yeah, that's right. I was going to say huge.
Speaker 2: With the two kicking leaders at Adelaide, So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: if they decide that he's in that role, I think
Speaker 2: probably we have to look a little bit closer. But
Speaker 2: he's another one that i'd be happy to just wait
Speaker 2: and see. I think unless he just blows our socks
Speaker 2: off in preseason games or matches him that we see
Speaker 2: and we can see he's clearly in the role. He's
Speaker 2: one that I'm not willing to give him that Riley
Speaker 2: Bonner sort of tag. How it was just very clear
Speaker 2: in the preseason. I don't know with the Isaac coming
Speaker 2: at this point, but yeah, he's definitely one to watch.
Speaker 2: Shall I jump into my pick which also surprise this
Speaker 2: guy's slid so far. I think he might be one
Speaker 2: of the most owned players in super Coach when the
Speaker 2: game does open. But Matt Flynn two hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: one thousand, nine hundred priced at just forty eight a ruck,
Speaker 2: and that the West Coast Eagles desperately need just the
Speaker 2: four games last year with ankle and hamstring issues. Played
Speaker 2: six games in the Waffle as well, average ninety six
Speaker 2: in the Waffle, So showed you know, I mean, we
Speaker 2: know second tier comps, a lot of these players just
Speaker 2: dominate regardless, but still had six hitouts to advantage thirty
Speaker 2: one hitouts a game could manage fifteen disposals in that league.
Speaker 2: It isn't the easiest league going around. The waffle, so
Speaker 2: we can say at least it's not the old Nethl
Speaker 2: days there.
Speaker 5: So Matt Flynn sample under eights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think honestly though, if he's named, I
Speaker 2: think it's just a smash platflex. We're always asking or wondering,
Speaker 2: how do we play these these R threes that you
Speaker 2: know we want to take a punt on? And if
Speaker 2: Matt Flynn is named and is playing early, I think
Speaker 2: he's kind of almost not a no brainer. You know,
Speaker 2: there's lots of different strategies you can play with the
Speaker 2: new flex position if you are if you have been
Speaker 2: living under a rock, flex is the new position in
Speaker 2: super Coach. There's going to be twenty three players on
Speaker 2: field this year and only your best twenty two account.
Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, Mattlin for me, is going to
Speaker 2: be a really popular selection, at least in the early
Speaker 2: planning stages before we kind of figure out those those
Speaker 2: round one teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the only question for me on him
Speaker 1: is just, you know, in our dream world, he just
Speaker 1: walks straight back into the number one rock roll of
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and we've seen cheap rucks is such a
Speaker 1: great way to score Super Coach points if you're effectively
Speaker 1: comparing him to other rookies in other positions. You know,
Speaker 1: at the ruckie just get first crack at every stoppage
Speaker 1: and even if you're half decent at it, you'll average
Speaker 1: seventy or eighty. And we've seen, you know, the Jordan's
Speaker 1: Sweets of the world come in and make a heap
Speaker 1: of money doing that. So it'll be great if that's
Speaker 1: the role that he gets. I just you know, I
Speaker 1: sort of want to see it because those they got
Speaker 1: him from GWS for that role and last year he
Speaker 1: had injuries and things just didn't work for him and
Speaker 1: Bailey Williams played there. Yeah, how do they use those guys? Hew?
Speaker 1: Does the puzzles sort of fit together this year? And again,
Speaker 1: I guess once we get some actual games, we'll get
Speaker 1: a better look at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to see what mcgold wants to do
Speaker 2: with the squad and how they shape up as well.
Speaker 2: There's going to be just so many it's one to
Speaker 2: really watch closely. But he's a guy that they need regardless,
Speaker 2: I think, and hopefully get some games into him this year.
Speaker 2: But Demo, you're up next, mate.
Speaker 4: I better pick someone from the dockers, I'm going with
Speaker 4: Nathan O Drisko one hundred and ninety eight K. He's
Speaker 4: been injury ravaged over the last few seasons and it's
Speaker 4: not been because of choice that he's been out of
Speaker 4: the docker's side. And I think in an ideal world
Speaker 4: he is playing on the opposite wing to Jeremy Sharp,
Speaker 4: running the ball from half back to half forward, being
Speaker 4: that guy that can also go inside if needed, kind
Speaker 4: of almost like a more outside version of Humor Pluggage,
Speaker 4: if that's at all possible. But I mean, if he
Speaker 4: can get back to the way that he was playing
Speaker 4: in his debut season, when I think he scored nineties
Speaker 4: in his first two weeks of full games or close
Speaker 4: to that. Anyway, I reckon at one ninety eight K
Speaker 4: he is an absolute bargain and he only needs to
Speaker 4: make one hundred K on hundred and fifty K to
Speaker 4: be a successful selection. And at this stage you'd think
Speaker 4: he's in the docks best twenty three heading into round one.
Speaker 2: I remember his rookie year. I think you know, we
Speaker 2: were sort of he sort of came out onto the
Speaker 2: scene because I think he didn't sorry his second year
Speaker 2: he sort of managed to crack into the team. I
Speaker 2: think it was. And yeah, he seemed to be kind
Speaker 2: of that heart and soul player demo like you're saying,
Speaker 2: and he sort of has had some big performances over
Speaker 2: the years, but coming in at sort of basically almost
Speaker 2: basement or you're paying sort of like a top end
Speaker 2: draft pick, sort of top ten draft pick range, Dan,
Speaker 2: do you reckon he's got sort of maybe a bit
Speaker 2: more job security or would you sort of be leaning
Speaker 2: towards I know you know the draft really well, would
Speaker 2: you prefer to spend that money on one of these
Speaker 2: gun players from the draft this year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting we sort of know what we're
Speaker 3: going to get from O'dris skull like and he has
Speaker 3: been a profitable, profitable rookie before, but he was at
Speaker 3: that basement price of course, you know, playing in that
Speaker 3: wing role. It'll be interesting to see sort of which
Speaker 3: you obviously obviously you even look at like Melbourne, there's
Speaker 3: often an unrewarded winger who you know, or even Camden Macintosh,
Speaker 3: say at Richmond, who's not getting many of the touches,
Speaker 3: but he's just running end to end. So where is
Speaker 3: it Jeremy Sharp who's getting most of the possessions and
Speaker 3: you're playing in the attacking role and it's it's not
Speaker 3: playing as the in the defensive role. So it'll be
Speaker 3: interesting in that regard. But yeah, you compare it to say,
Speaker 3: like a Josh Smile, who's probably going to be playing
Speaker 3: inside midfield most weeks, and there's a a host of
Speaker 3: others who could potentially be in the frame in that
Speaker 3: midfield mix. I'd probably have others aheads I think, and
Speaker 3: less he can. He really shoots the lights out in
Speaker 3: the preseason and we know he's going to have like
Speaker 3: a pretty pretty promising role. But yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 3: definitely one to look at, especially if those other midfield
Speaker 3: rookies don't emerge or that you know, maybe they debut
Speaker 3: a bit later than opening round or round one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so it's background to you. Damn, we got
Speaker 1: one pick each left. Is there any any gems still
Speaker 1: left on the board.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot, to be honest, But I'll go
Speaker 3: a bit outside the box. I've been a little bit
Speaker 3: cookie cutter, and this isn't really the podcast. We've been
Speaker 3: a cookie cutter, but you know, I'll go from a
Speaker 3: guy I've been watching at Cat's training in camp Gus
Speaker 3: three two hundred and seventy eight k midfielder Price at
Speaker 3: fifty two average. You know, he won a Best in
Speaker 3: Ferris in He's joined Best in Ferris in Geelong's premiership
Speaker 3: year in twenty twenty two. But since then he's only
Speaker 3: played about ten games all up. And last year, who
Speaker 3: played about five or six games, sorry seven, I think
Speaker 3: it was about seven or eight games all up, and
Speaker 3: that was including VFL as well. I tried to get
Speaker 3: back in late in the season and after that achilles
Speaker 3: issue that really plagued him throughout the season. But yeah,
Speaker 3: and his year so it looked like a decent He
Speaker 3: actually was going to be in my team to start
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three and then his first practice game pinned
Speaker 3: his quad. It was pretty much in the first ten
Speaker 3: or twenty seconds of the game. So injury obviously is
Speaker 3: the massive question mark. But he's been running well at
Speaker 3: Cat's training. Obviously it's only running, but he's on a
Speaker 3: bit of a modified program there down at the Cutteries.
Speaker 3: So we know what he has produced in the past.
Speaker 3: You think that's probably beyond him. But if you can
Speaker 3: get to a ninety five one hundred average, especially over
Speaker 3: those sort of first eight weeks you can easily pivot
Speaker 3: to a premium after making a fair bit of cash.
Speaker 3: But the only obviously, along with those injury issues.
Speaker 5: He's thirty two.
Speaker 3: And he does have that round three by so if
Speaker 3: you are picking him, you probably can't pick your Kitty Colemans,
Speaker 3: Tom Dooday and a lot of those guys. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he's another one. Obviously it's slim pickings in
Speaker 3: this sort of bracket, but yeah, another to you know,
Speaker 3: keep a bit of a watch on during the preseason.
Speaker 1: Baylor Smith obviously is the other one who shares the
Speaker 1: buy in of course playing in the same team. But
Speaker 1: we've been talking about him a lot, and a lot
Speaker 1: of the talk is you know, who's the Cat's number
Speaker 1: one midfield of Bears is just going to walk straight
Speaker 1: in there? But how do you see it shaking up?
Speaker 1: And does you know is Cam Guthrie part of the mix?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting question because you know, obviously you've
Speaker 3: got Bailly Smith, Tanner Bruin, camp Guthrie of his feet.
Speaker 5: You think Danger is probably going to be out of
Speaker 5: there a bit more.
Speaker 3: But they still did so much better when he was
Speaker 3: in versus when he was out.
Speaker 5: On the sidelines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joie Clark, but yeah, I don't think they've been
Speaker 3: trolling him off half back to start the preseason as well,
Speaker 3: which is interesting because he doesn't have a great kick
Speaker 3: on him, but yeah, you know he's pretty agile. So
Speaker 3: and then obviously Max Holmes and Tom Stewart, like you know,
Speaker 3: it could be a bit of a horses for courses
Speaker 3: with with Max Holmes because he seems to inject so much,
Speaker 3: whether it's in defense or the midfield. So to answer
Speaker 3: your question, I'll absolutely no idea what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: I think you can bank on Ballely Smith being there,
Speaker 3: but yeah, can Guthrie will be there if he's fit,
Speaker 3: but again that's a big if.
Speaker 5: They'll definitely be conservative with him.
Speaker 2: I would have thought, apologies if this is anyone on
Speaker 2: anyone's list, and cut me off and we can talk
Speaker 2: about him after. But just speaking about Geelong as well,
Speaker 2: is there any news on Toby Conway for this season
Speaker 2: coming down?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been on a modified program when I've been
Speaker 3: down there. Obviously you've got your Cam Guthries and Jack
Speaker 3: Martins who are sort of completing some of training. And
Speaker 3: then sort of just going off and doing their own running,
Speaker 3: whereas Toby hasn't been doing a lot. But it's no
Speaker 3: actual injury he had obviously the stress fractures or stress
Speaker 3: fructuring his foot that end of this season. It seems
Speaker 3: to be more just a conservative management rather than necessarily
Speaker 3: that foot injury that he's.
Speaker 5: Been sidelined with.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm very unsure about how they're going to
Speaker 3: go about the rucks, whether it is a Sanda Coning
Speaker 3: who ends up rucking as he did at times during
Speaker 3: the second half of the year and then or whether
Speaker 3: they go again with ree Stanley or even Mitch Edwards,
Speaker 3: the draft e from a couple of years ago who
Speaker 3: showing some good signs on the track. But yeah, you
Speaker 3: think Toby Conway will be fit for around one. But
Speaker 3: I think just like last year, they're not gonna throw
Speaker 3: him to the wolves. It might be two weeks in,
Speaker 3: one week out. That's sort of that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: as they did last year managing him along with ree Stanley.
Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, the fact that Reeve Stanley's on
Speaker 3: going on another year isn't a great sign in terms
Speaker 3: of the trust they have in Toby Kanway's body. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that all certainly will play out a bit
Speaker 3: over the next couple of months, and.
Speaker 2: A mid price anyway, he would have been in the
Speaker 2: other bracket, so that's my bad anyway.
Speaker 6: So yeah, still potential value there, but yeah, you'd want
Speaker 6: to make sure he's getting a regular game if you're
Speaker 6: playing three hundred and forty k rap l.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yes, it must have been. My topics have
Speaker 1: all been spoken about already. But so let's just go
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy here and someone I had not thought about
Speaker 1: it all until I read an article in The held
Speaker 1: Son about two days ago, and that is Jack Silvanni.
Speaker 1: He's two hundred and fifty nine. Kay missed all of
Speaker 1: last year after doing his ACL in January. Looking at
Speaker 1: his numbers in the past, he's averaged around seventy seventy five,
Speaker 1: which you know, it's not bad, but probably not enough
Speaker 1: to pick him at that price. But then there's a
Speaker 1: mention in Josh Barnes wrote this article on the Held
Speaker 1: it's unsaying I think might have even been talking up
Speaker 1: about training with the defenders. I think he's just in
Speaker 1: the WhatsApp group with some of the defenders, and Josh asked, Jack,
Speaker 1: is this a real thing about playing in defense this year,
Speaker 1: and his quote is, as far as I know, it's legit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely one to just to pencil into the
Speaker 1: watch list. And if you know, we've seen this before
Speaker 1: where players that you hadn't really even thought about go
Speaker 1: into defense and play a role where they're maybe you
Speaker 1: can imagine him playing a bit loose floating around getting
Speaker 1: some uncontested in intercept marks even and that can be
Speaker 1: a real ticket to super coat scoring. So he's wanting
Speaker 1: to keep in mind. I remember picking Mitch McGovern down
Speaker 1: at the Blues a couple of years ago, thinking he's
Speaker 1: going to take all the intercept marks and didn't quite
Speaker 1: work out. But yeah, Jack's a very solid citizen as
Speaker 1: we know, and yeah, he could be a fun pick
Speaker 1: in super Coach. So he's a forward obviously, So again
Speaker 1: we talk about the forwards being pretty crowded with all
Speaker 1: these value picks, but he's another one that we could
Speaker 1: potentially look at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that had that fantastic year a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: but he was playing quite a bit of midfield and
Speaker 2: like almost backup rock when he seemed to score well.
Speaker 2: Because I remember I was a draft owner at the time,
Speaker 2: and I was he had the weirdest role. He could
Speaker 2: just sort of like, I mean, throwing him in defense
Speaker 2: probably isn't a surprise. He's sort of a jack of
Speaker 2: all trades, can do a bit of everything. So yeah,
Speaker 2: he'd be a real punt for me. I think, I
Speaker 2: think I know you had to, I know you had
Speaker 2: to clutch at something there alver. I think I'd be
Speaker 2: really waiting to see some sort of role out of him.
Speaker 2: I think he'll be purely on my draft boards in
Speaker 2: super coach and nothing else, but.
Speaker 3: This could many teams. He got eighteen teams in that draft.
Speaker 3: Is your last pick?
Speaker 2: Look, speaking of players taking a punt on, this is
Speaker 2: my final pick. And another guy that maybe he's left
Speaker 2: see our taste in our mouth in the in the
Speaker 2: past and certainly been mostly just draft relevant, but coming
Speaker 2: to the power this season at two hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: three thousand, seven hundred dollars to take Dan Houston's role
Speaker 2: surging up to a ninety five to one hundred average,
Speaker 2: we got Rory Atkins.
Speaker 5: How it's all in the sample super coach.
Speaker 2: Most likely three games at AFL level last year only
Speaker 2: average thirty eight, But in the VFL he was absolutely
Speaker 2: killing it for the Gold Coast Suns last season, thirty
Speaker 2: three disposals a game, twenty one kicks when it's seventy
Speaker 2: seven percent kicking efficiency, racked up ten marks a game
Speaker 2: in seven rebound fifties, one hundred and twenty seven super
Speaker 2: coach points for him on average in those sixteen games,
Speaker 2: So not a small sample size for that average. Why
Speaker 2: not Rory Atkins. They're searching for a player to use
Speaker 2: in their back line that you know who is it?
Speaker 2: Is it going to be josh Sin? We've had names
Speaker 2: we hit here, Joshin's name every preseason just about for
Speaker 2: since he's been drafted, So five seasons averaging over seventy
Speaker 2: for Rory Atkins, including seventy two as recently as twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three from seventeen games with the Sun. So look
Speaker 2: at two thirty three k I'm probably not bold enough
Speaker 2: to do it, but we've heard over here in Adelaide.
Speaker 2: He had a presser when he first came. There was
Speaker 2: quite a bit of Rory Atkins Bazza. They threw him
Speaker 2: to Medea a few times, but he was saying, look, I'm,
Speaker 2: you know, keen to have an impact this year and beyond,
Speaker 2: so he's sort of pegging himself into the lineup for
Speaker 2: a few years to come. Still, So look, if if
Speaker 2: his confidence has anything to show for it, maybe he
Speaker 2: will have a role this year. Let's wait and see.
Speaker 2: But if he is named and he has a role,
Speaker 2: you know there's plenty of ball to go back there
Speaker 2: with Dan Houston out of the side. Demo your thoughts
Speaker 2: on Rory Atkins.
Speaker 4: I have no thoughts on Rory Atkins. He has not
Speaker 4: come into my thinking at all. I know a few
Speaker 4: years ago he was rookie price, pretty close to rookie price,
Speaker 4: and everyone was wanting to get him in late in
Speaker 4: the season because he was the only one actually making money.
Speaker 4: But as far as a selection for twenty twenty five goes,
Speaker 4: I think I'd have to be pretty down the bottom
Speaker 4: of my list as be selecting him in my starting side.
Speaker 3: Dam I just a quick quote from Chris Davies, like
Speaker 3: just when they did the Houston trade and god Atkins,
Speaker 3: he said of him, we think he can add depth
Speaker 3: to our squad overall, you know the issue we've got
Speaker 3: with senior players at sample level. We think he can
Speaker 3: definitely do a job for us there. So I think
Speaker 3: that says all you need pretty much to saying we
Speaker 3: picked a sample player.
Speaker 2: That is right rough, all right, round out this. Who
Speaker 2: have you got? You got some diamond in the rough
Speaker 2: that we've missed here.
Speaker 4: I think my pick might be worse than Rory Atkins,
Speaker 4: to be honest, I've gone with Bailey Humphrey at the
Speaker 4: Suns two seventy K in his debut season. He had
Speaker 4: a RUND average of ninety six point two. And everyone's
Speaker 4: picking or has picked Shy Bolton in the past because
Speaker 4: of his role. Let him move when he rolls up
Speaker 4: into the midfield off the half forward line and sometimes
Speaker 4: attends some center bounces, and Bailey Humphrey when he plays
Speaker 4: that role, he has a really high ceiling. No idea
Speaker 4: what Damian Hardwick has planned after all these acquisitions in
Speaker 4: the off season, you know, drafting Leo Lombard, got Noah
Speaker 4: Anderson matt Row. Who knows where Sam Flanders plays this season?
Speaker 4: What do they do with John Noble and Daniel RIALI.
Speaker 4: But if Bailey Humphrey can forge a role similar to
Speaker 4: like a Dylan Moore like econom McDonald kind of thing
Speaker 4: at the Suns and he has some midfield minutes, pushing
Speaker 4: up from half forward. Then Bailey Humphrey might be someone
Speaker 4: we look at, but you know, it's not a great
Speaker 4: selection to fit to round out the podcast with, but
Speaker 4: just someone that sticks in my mind because I had
Speaker 4: him late in that season when he was getting those
Speaker 4: big scores. I think we all jumped on him around
Speaker 4: that buy because we wanted some money to play with
Speaker 4: in upgrades in that season.
Speaker 2: I remember, I think there was a highlight from when
Speaker 2: he played VFL, I think before maybe getting into the AFL,
Speaker 2: or a preseason highlight. It was something where he did
Speaker 2: the Dusty fend off and it was a goal from
Speaker 2: outside fifty. So I remember some Dusty comparisons early in
Speaker 2: the career, and yeah, I didn't know that that five
Speaker 2: round average you mentioned, I think that sounded pretty pretty
Speaker 2: full memory.
Speaker 1: He had this ridiculous run where he kicking Darlin That's right,
Speaker 1: he kicked like the winning goal two or three games
Speaker 1: in a row, or you know, the clutch golded sealer
Speaker 1: where he got this extra little spike at the end
Speaker 1: of the game to push his score up. But I
Speaker 1: remember because I didn't have him and it was really
Speaker 1: annoying and he kept doing it. But I think Dan
Speaker 1: you might have been a happy Humphrey owner from not
Speaker 1: Mistaken then and also did a bit of work on
Speaker 1: you know, talking to him before he was drafted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's a great kid. It does a lot
Speaker 3: in the mental health space. So I suppose to him
Speaker 3: in the lead up to him being drafted, so watched
Speaker 3: him very close. I think it's a matter of of if,
Speaker 3: not a matter of when, not if he becomes a
Speaker 3: full time midfielder. He's just so damaging as we saw
Speaker 3: during that period that Damo mentions. You know, he was
Speaker 3: only having about sixty percent time on ground because he
Speaker 3: was he was pretty gas. But you know, he has
Speaker 3: the capacity to win games and whether in the in
Speaker 3: the midfield or up forwards. So I think he will
Speaker 3: become a lot more super coach relevant into the future.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just whether he can get that consistent
Speaker 3: midfield time and whether he is his tank is up
Speaker 3: to it, because you know, if that's all, if he's
Speaker 3: ticking those boxes, then yeah he's you know, he can
Speaker 3: have twenty five disposals and win you a game and
Speaker 3: you know, kick kick two goals. So yeah, he's super damaging,
Speaker 3: super powerful at the contest and yeah, as we saw
Speaker 3: it can't kick goals, but yeah, it's just that midfield
Speaker 3: forward split. Whether whether it sort of tips over that
Speaker 3: sort of sixty percent, then we can definitely consider it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's hard to break into that suns of midfield,
Speaker 3: especially with guys like Leo Lombard and obviously the stack
Speaker 3: midfield they already have.
Speaker 1: Interesting he said, yeah, he's already yeah, you know, a
Speaker 1: pretty mature guy talking about some of those mental health
Speaker 1: issues very early on. And he did an interview with
Speaker 1: Calm dickup in Brisbane in December where he talked about
Speaker 1: being compared to Dustin Martin early in his career with
Speaker 1: you know, some of those traits that he had, and
Speaker 1: he said that, yeah, he did actually struggle with that
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he's the quote is it did
Speaker 1: take a toll on me mentally. I felt like I
Speaker 1: had to be him having thirty disposals and three goals
Speaker 1: every game, and when I didn't do that, I feel
Speaker 1: like I was letting people down. So he's, you know,
Speaker 1: that's sort of something that he's actually working through himself.
Speaker 1: To you, as he says, forge his own path, and
Speaker 1: you know, he knows he doesn't have to be compared
Speaker 1: to someone like Dusty, So yeah, he's got a pretty
Speaker 1: mature head on his shoulders, and yeah, you know from
Speaker 1: what we've seen, and be great if he can break
Speaker 1: out and have a successful career. But yeah, would that
Speaker 1: translate to a successful pick in Super Coach, I mean
Speaker 1: potentially the prices. He is a tempting so definitely one
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 2: I think now if we're not picking him in our
Speaker 2: classic size, we're definitely looking at him in our keeper league,
Speaker 2: in our draft league. So yeah, regardless, a great, a great,
Speaker 2: great pick that day, mate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good shout. So I've just had a few other
Speaker 1: names that we didn't get to, but I thought I
Speaker 1: just mentioned because it's sort of surprising how many experienced
Speaker 1: players show up when you do look through the you know,
Speaker 1: scrolling scrolling down down down to the bottom of the
Speaker 1: Super Coach prices, and some pretty surprising ones in there,
Speaker 1: or just some blasts from the past. I mean I've
Speaker 1: seen in a couple of early teams Callum Coleman Jones.
Speaker 1: He's only one hundred and twenty eight thousand as a forward,
Speaker 1: but we know he hasn't quite fulfilled his potential. And
Speaker 1: also he's got a delayed preseason at the moment with
Speaker 1: some complications in his record hed.
Speaker 5: He sidelined until May or June as well.
Speaker 3: From that, he had a really really nasty injury last
Speaker 3: year stretch it off, so you'll probably cross him off
Speaker 3: the lease even but when he maybe it's a mid
Speaker 3: season down.
Speaker 5: Great option of one thirty K if he breaks.
Speaker 1: In Joe Ferra, who not a hugely well no name
Speaker 1: but at court more because I know our friend Tim
Speaker 1: has picked him in the past in Super Coach, maybe
Speaker 1: you'll go there again this year. He's only one hundred
Speaker 1: and nineteen thousand despite being aged twenty eight. He was
Speaker 1: originally drafted in twenty nineteen, but struggled to get a
Speaker 1: game in the last couple of years. Over back over
Speaker 1: in Frio, Oscar McDonald only played the one game last
Speaker 1: year and hurt his knee, so I don't if there's
Speaker 1: any hope that he'll get back into Frio's best team.
Speaker 1: But he's only one hundred and nineteen k in defense,
Speaker 1: so there's a few others there. What about David Swallow,
Speaker 1: former number one draft pick. He's played two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty AFL games. He's two hundred and thirty three thousand
Speaker 1: defense forward DPP. Is that to tempt you at all?
Speaker 1: Does he not?
Speaker 2: At all? Every time last year was yeah, No.
Speaker 1: Actually he was the sub nine times. Yeah, so it
Speaker 1: became a bit of a professional Subit got another year
Speaker 1: on the list. What about Dom Sheeed? What happened to him?
Speaker 1: He's now two hundred and thirty eight thousand, but only
Speaker 1: averaged forty four last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought about mentioning him on this show. There
Speaker 2: was just guys. I probably like more. Maybe he could
Speaker 2: have taken the Rory Atkin spotfight. Look, Sheed, I think
Speaker 2: I started to worry. I think it was two years
Speaker 2: ago people were talking about him as an option, and
Speaker 2: I saw him wearing the career savers out there on
Speaker 2: the field, the old assex trustee shoes that are only
Speaker 2: you only wear when really towards the end of the career,
Speaker 2: not the start.
Speaker 3: I think I wore an old junior career. So it
Speaker 3: probably says about.
Speaker 2: Brow generally, but no, he I really I hope he
Speaker 2: gets back to his best. He's only twenty nine years old,
Speaker 2: so probably in that in that mold of you know,
Speaker 2: I think he's even younger than your Cam Guthrie. Who
Speaker 2: if he can crack back in. But both those guys,
Speaker 2: you know, veterans that have done it before. Sheed's never
Speaker 2: been to the to the heights of a cam Guthrie
Speaker 2: in terms of his super coach scoring prowess. But obviously
Speaker 2: a match winner as we saw in twenty eighteen. So
Speaker 2: a guy that thank you very much so.
Speaker 3: To get that one into for the Hollywood fans listening and.
Speaker 1: Laste one for day ma. What about Michael Wilds down
Speaker 1: to two hundred and thirty six thousand at the Dockers,
Speaker 1: still running around maybe last year, you might think, but
Speaker 1: is there anything left in the tank for suns?
Speaker 4: I don't even know if he's in the best twenty
Speaker 4: three anymore. You know, they've got Bolton, they've got switch Kowski,
Speaker 4: they've got Stirt. You know, they've just drafted Murphy Reid,
Speaker 4: and then the year and then a year ago they
Speaker 4: got Cooper Simpson as well. So is Michael Walter's even
Speaker 4: in their best twenty two or twenty three anymore? It's
Speaker 4: hard to you can make a case for him, but
Speaker 4: it's also hard to you know, endorse the selection as well.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a sub specialist sub, come on, impact player.
Speaker 1: I remember he was a favorite, well not so favorite
Speaker 1: pick in super coaching years past, when he had a
Speaker 1: blistering run in the midfield and I brought him in
Speaker 1: at some ridiculous price and then he went straight back
Speaker 1: to the forward pocket. So but I do like watching
Speaker 1: him plays. He's a good fun player to watch. So
Speaker 1: I think those all the names really exist exhaust too.
Speaker 1: I had down, but there's plenty of there is from.
Speaker 3: One very I think the one that's snuck through Angus Sheldrick.
Speaker 5: I don't mind him.
Speaker 3: He was looking alright a couple of years ago. It's thought,
Speaker 3: oh gee, it's just you know, you obviously had awesome
Speaker 3: junior numbers again in Waffle under eight en, so you know,
Speaker 3: akin to sample under eight EN's. But yeah, had I've
Speaker 3: had that sort of Bailey hum Free effect where he
Speaker 3: burst onto the scene and had a good, you know,
Speaker 3: sort of five run game. And you know, with Luke
Speaker 3: Parker out of that side, like, do you think he
Speaker 3: is a decent shout DOSSI obviously a w A boy,
Speaker 3: but that Dean Cox will will play him in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, him and Braden Campbell. I'm really interested to see
Speaker 2: where they fit into the side. Because Campbell's also a cheaper,
Speaker 2: cheaper price player that should be I think getting more
Speaker 2: opportunities this year. But averaged I just looked it up.
Speaker 2: Eighty eight super coach average in the VFL last year
Speaker 2: for Sheldrick, which includes presumably an injured game of nine,
Speaker 2: so you'd probably bump that up a little bit into nineties.
Speaker 2: There at least he had six or so tons. And
Speaker 2: you also presume that would have been playing a little
Speaker 2: bit with Luke Parker so in the NFL last year,
Speaker 2: So twenty four disposes of a game four marks, six clearances.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he also he was one that when he
Speaker 2: did play early on, I was really keen to see
Speaker 2: him play. Seemed to be able to rack up the pill.
Speaker 2: So definitely one that I would consider. You know, he
Speaker 2: is in that super cheap sort of rookie bracket. He's
Speaker 2: definitely one that I'd be locking into my team if
Speaker 2: we see that Dean Cox, you know, has his eye
Speaker 2: into some sort of role for Sheldry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from memory, he was a real points per minute guy.
Speaker 1: When he burst into the scene. He had very low
Speaker 1: game time, but when he was on, he showed he
Speaker 1: could actually score points. One of the names that I
Speaker 1: forgot that I will mention in passing two just because
Speaker 1: maybe could finish up with him, because we know he's
Speaker 1: a favorite of the Hipster and the phantoms Layer, and
Speaker 1: that is Jack Carroll famously kept him by the Hipster
Speaker 1: one day by mistake, and he's moved from Carlton Tuson
Speaker 1: killed always picked up as a delisted free agent. Actually
Speaker 1: played fifth dean games for the Blues last year, but
Speaker 1: was the sub in nine of those. So you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about some and kue to midfield, who knows
Speaker 1: what they're going to do over there, but he's only
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty four. K's if award meet in Supercoach,
Speaker 1: So just wanting to keep an eye if he does
Speaker 1: get to get a look in in the preseason. He's
Speaker 1: got a decent game, can win clearances and get his
Speaker 1: hands on the pill if he gets the opportunity. So
Speaker 1: here's another one coming in pretty cheap that we could
Speaker 1: potentially look at.
Speaker 2: Certainly, love love all these options, and again I'll be
Speaker 2: if I'm not looking at them in classic, I'll be
Speaker 2: certainly pegging him in my draft.
Speaker 5: Boards and seeing him there.
Speaker 2: There's I mean, there's more that we didn't even get
Speaker 2: to but I won't mention them. We've spoken for far
Speaker 2: too long for an under three hundred k podcast. Thanks
Speaker 2: so much for joining us, Damo. Let us know where
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