1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Boxing Day, Black Friday Supercoach preseason. Everyone loves a bargain, 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: especially here on the official Supercoach AFL show, and there 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: are more bargains in Supercoach twenty twenty five than you 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: can poke a stick at. We discussed a bunch of 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: them a few days ago on our Mid Price Madness show. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Go back and listen to that one if you missed it. That, 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: of course, is anywhere you listen to your podcast, plus 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: the Code Sports channel on YouTube you get all your 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Supercoach content. This season, we had to draw the line 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: there somewhere for mid prices, and that was at three 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, but the potential game changes that don't 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: stop there. With a surprising list of experienced players available 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: in the real bargain bin under three hundred k, and 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: today we'll sort through those names and find the players 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: who are viable options for our twenty twenty five Super 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Coach teams. I'm your host, Al Payton, and with me 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: again is Dos Doskret to have you back with us 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: to talk more Supercoach value. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, can you get stuck in? Probably not as big 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: big a pool we've got to pick from as we 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: did in the mid Price Madness episode just the other day, 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: But still keen to find those value picks that really 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: could be some of the winning picks this year if 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: we get it right. 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: And Dan Banden joining us for the first time in 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: this new Supercoach year. Dan, we know you're a real 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: rookie guru, but this might be stretching your talents somewhat. 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Hopefully you've got some good names for us. 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've actually been a little bit out of the 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: super Coach loop so far this season. We're focusing on 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: super Coach BBO, which has been the band of my existence, 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: all those laid out and things. But looking forward to 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: jumping on and hopefully we can find a few value 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: picks for those listening. 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: And joining us. Today's special guests a longtime friend of 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 1: the show, host of the Footy Mailbag podcast, Damo, Welcome aboard, 37 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: and looking at that jumper in the background, Free, I 38 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: might have a couple of juicy little bargains for us 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: when we get to those during the show. 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they might do. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah, 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: some nice cheap guys to have a look at in 42 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: this episode. 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully absolutely so. The format here will be similar to 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: what we did for our mid pressure a bit of 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: a draft, going around the room calling out names that 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: we want to discuss. Now, as I said, this isn't 47 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: really about rookies as such, but I thought off the top, 48 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: we might mention a few names potentially who are sort 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: of older rookies that have been around for a few years. 50 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: But we haven't really seen much of them, and they're 51 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: still in the very very cheap bracket, so they won't 52 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: be the main content of the show. But we'll mention 53 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: a few names. And I mean, Dan, this is really 54 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: your wheelhouse. So is there anybody there that you think 55 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: could be a real option for us this season? 56 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: I think the big one is probably Josh kibkiss Penny 57 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: on his injury. He's been a rookie for us before 58 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: and made a heap of cash and obviously a lot 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: of us jumped on last year, and you know, we 60 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: made the feel of pain when he suffered that injury 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: so so early into the season. But if he Getty's 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: body right, I think there's gonna be a lot of 63 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: footy down there for the Tigers. 64 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 5: So and he's intercep King, so I like him. 65 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: He's still at a really good price at one fifty 66 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: three K and he made about one hundred and fifty 67 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: CAH on his starting price a few years ago when 68 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: he was a rookie, so he's. 69 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 5: Dead definitely one to consider. 70 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: I've been down at Gelong training a bit for my 71 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: role at a Gelong Advertiser and Mitch Never is looking good. 72 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: I think he pumped out about a two hundred and 73 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: ten score and in the last VFL game of the 74 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: season he's at one hundred and forty nine K. As 75 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: a midfielder, he's you know, even Dansfield said during the 76 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: preseason at the beginning of the preseason sort of tipped 77 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: him to be a part of that midfield group to 78 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: start the season he was playing more inside than outside 79 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: in the VFL. 80 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 5: So he's another to look at. Zach Reid. He's he's 81 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 5: just a perennial rookie, isn't he. 82 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: You know, he's made a paper But you know, at 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: that price, if he is playing, you'd think surely if 84 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: he's fit, he's. 85 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 5: Playing in that essenonce side. 86 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: Another bomber as well, in a Lijah status was an 87 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: absolutely ball magnet at junior level and a VFL level 88 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: as well. 89 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 5: Just whether he gets that midfield role. 90 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: That's probably the only question mark because you can certainly 91 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: find the footy and Neil Erasmus as well from the Dockers, 92 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: one of Demo's men over there Ford midfielder and at 93 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: a pretty good price as well. Just be whether it 94 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: can squeeze into that pretty stacked free O midfield. 95 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to throw it to Demo on 96 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: that one. I mean, he's been putting up some big 97 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: numbers in the Waffle. I know the Phantom is a 98 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: big fan, but yeah, can you see a spot for 99 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: him in the best twenty three or twenty two of 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: the Dockers. 101 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: Well, with Fife and Welters going under the knife to 102 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: fix up, to fix up their knees, maybe he might 103 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: get a role to start the season and be a 104 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: good money maker over the first six or seven weeks 105 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 4: and someone we can jump off pretty quickly, but someone 106 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: we can start with to get a nice run of 107 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: scores from. 108 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: And yes, Dan mentioned the fact that he's a forward 109 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: mid two. That helps because we need some players for 110 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: our forward bench. Is another one in that category. Dos 111 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: over in the Eagles, which I know you're watching very closely. 112 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: Elijah Hewitt, how is he shaping up this prison, but 113 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: we actually get a chance to see how good the 114 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Eagles think he can be. 115 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: Well, I hope so yeah, I think from you know, 116 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: I haven't seen too much yet coming out of Eagles, 117 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: but I think, yeah, if we get a good look 118 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 2: at him in the preseason, there's nothing like he should 119 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: be basically in every team. I think. You know, it 120 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: was a highly touted pick, could play through the midfield, 121 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: even had some bursts through the midfield in his rookie year, 122 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: but then missed the entirety of last season. So he's 123 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: coming into basement price, you know, heading into that third season. 124 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a no brainer pick if 125 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: he does, if his body does hold up in the preseason. 126 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, nice. All right, Well, we'll get now into the 127 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: really interesting names, which is going to be a bit 128 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: more fun, I think, and especially when we get to 129 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: some of these late picks. I reckon we'll be coming 130 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: up with some pretty juicy ones. But what was the 131 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: draft order that we came up with. I think I'm 132 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: running last again. 133 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, the draft order we have today, which I 134 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: did sort of have to make some shuffles for a 135 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: few laid outs here, but Dan's coming up with the 136 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: number one pick. 137 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: Al, you're coming. 138 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: Second today, Oh, ok, not too far down. Then it's 139 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: me and then we've stitched our guests up the final 140 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: spot in the draft. As we know, we're not doing 141 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: a snake draft. This isn't really a draft in terms 142 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: of who you'd pick first, who you'd pick last in 143 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: this sort of positions. It's just more your gut feel 144 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: who you want to pick and who you want to 145 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: talk about in these under three hundred k brackets. So 146 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: we're not talking about it as a draft. It's just 147 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: sort of to get just to have a bit of 148 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: fun with this episode out. 149 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so Dan over to you. We'll call it 150 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: the number one pick. You're on the clock. 151 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to take a bit of a cop out 152 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: and it's probably going to take me about ten seconds 153 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: to lodge this pick in this bracket. Caleb Daniel, he's 154 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 3: priced at fifty average, which is just insane for someone 155 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: who's all Australian in the past, and someone who's been 156 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: a pretty consistent super coach scorer when he's had the role. 157 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: He hasn't had the role of the past couple of years. 158 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: Was the sub eight times last season when he got 159 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: absolutely bevoed but scored ninety seven one hundred in his 160 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: last two games for the Bulldogs. And you know, even 161 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: his manager was saying when he got traded to North 162 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: Melbourne that he wanted to be happy and free and 163 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: obviously spoke about that that half back role, and yeah, 164 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: I think it's a nice fit there for North Melbourn. 165 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: They need someone to you know, to use the ball. Well, 166 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 5: they had Zack. 167 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: Fisher, you know, for crying out loud, that's who they 168 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: turned too off half back. So I think he's one 169 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: who's going to take all those points. You know, even 170 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: mckirche does he move more into the midfield in twenty 171 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: twenty five, I think it's only a matter of time 172 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: until he does. 173 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: So, yeah, Caleb Daniels just yeah, you know, throw away 174 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 5: the key. I think. 175 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: Anyone wan who think of a reason not to pick 176 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Caleb daniel like I haven't got. 177 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 4: Any, seems pretty straightforward there because average ninety three hundred 178 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: and one and ninety nine at the in the three 179 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: seasons that he was playing that role. So even if 180 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: he only replicates that the ninety three, that's still a 181 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 4: good selection at two sixty nine k yeah. 182 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 6: One percent. 183 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean He's one that you could imagine being a 184 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: season long keeper for two hundred and fifty ode thousand. 185 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, pretty hard to overlook that we jumped straight 186 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: to the second pick then, And I've got a few 187 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: names I must sleep, but I better go with the 188 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: guy before anybody else picks him, and that is Tom 189 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: Lynch at the Tigers one hundred and eighty three thousand, 190 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: which is an equivalent of a thirty five average. That's 191 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: really rookie level. And you know, we've talked about Tom 192 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: a bit on some of our pods already because obviously 193 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan as a Richmond manon just desperate 194 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: to see him get back out there. He only played 195 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: four games in each of the last two seasons, hasn't 196 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: played a full season since twenty nineteen, so he's always 197 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: got those issues with his body, and that's obviously the 198 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: big red flag on him and the watchover preseason. But 199 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: touch Wood at the moment, he's looking pretty good. Went 200 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: down U Punt Road just before Christmas and he was 201 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: looking absolutely ripped. Took part in some of the matches 202 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: him was moving nicely. So I just hope he gets 203 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: through to least round one and hopefully enough into the 204 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: season to at least make us some money. Obviously, key 205 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: forward's always a bit of a lottery, and you know, 206 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: playing key forward for Richmond is probably not going to 207 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: be the most lucrative role he could imagine. I mean, 208 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: you go back to that twenty twenty two season when 209 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: he averaged ninety four for the year, and he finished 210 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: the season with some really high school I think he 211 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: had a purple patch in the middle of the year 212 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: where he went one sixty seven point eight four one 213 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: seventy seven in a three week patch. So that'll be amazing. 214 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: But I'm not expecting anything like that. But if he 215 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: can just grab a bag of three or four a 216 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: couple of times Spikey price, that might be enough for 217 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: us to just make a quick hundred hundred and fifty 218 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: k out of him and trade him on. But no 219 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: early buy for the Tigers. They played their first game 220 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: in Round one, So if he's named in that team, 221 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be in more super coos team, 222 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: maybe on the field or on the bench. You could 223 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: probably put him on the bench with the emergency, but 224 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: that's that's getting a bit ahead of ourselves. But yeah, 225 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: obviously I'm a big Tom Lynch fan, So am I 226 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: am I just blinked by my Tiger supporting views or 227 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: is there something genuine there? Does he? 228 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: I mean at his price and given you know he's 229 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: a veteran of the game, if he gets on the park, 230 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: he's should be value. But I don't know if I 231 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: can bring myself to bring in a key forward at 232 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: Richmond season. So I think you're guaranteed to use a trade. 233 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: And if we see an injury, which you know, unfortunately 234 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: has plagued his career late in his career, you're just 235 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: going to waste the trade. And does he even go 236 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: up that much in value, I might just start with 237 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: someone that is the basement type. If we do get 238 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: those players named round one before the game open, like 239 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: when round one begins, I might be tempted to just 240 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: save that cash. And you know he's if he's going 241 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: ballistic in the first couple, I might be happy to trade, 242 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 2: say a failed mid price it down to a Tom 243 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: Lynch rather than to start with him personally. But you know, 244 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: you talk about his history and he should be under 245 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: price based on that. But I think I'd be happy 246 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: starting with someone a little bit cheaper and banking, say 247 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: sixty K to spend elsewhere to stuff the season. 248 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting point. Whether you could afford to 249 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: just watch him for a couple of weeks. His price 250 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: isn't going to move, and then yeah, if you feel 251 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: like there is something there that you need that you 252 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: can maybe move a few deck chairs and try and 253 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: get him in. Although that price might be a little 254 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: bit awkward, but yeah, given that the risk that comes 255 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: with him, that probably is a sensible way to attack it. 256 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: But Danny, do you like Tom Lynch and who you 257 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: got for us with your pick? He already done, I've 258 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: already picked out. It's not Richmond at the draft. I 259 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: don't have every pick in the top ten. But I 260 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: don't know about Lynch. 261 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: But I think I was one of the ones who 262 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: didn't pick Joey Danaher when he was cut price, and yeah, 263 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: I was really made to pay out. I sort of 264 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: had that attitude of oh, ja, he's a key forward. 265 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: He could really stink it up. But I think even 266 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: Charlie Kerno as well that year I passed on him, 267 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: And yeah, he ended up firing, not so much at 268 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: the start of the season, but ended up, you know, 269 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: making a fair bit of cash. So yeah, he's on 270 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: the park. Yeah, he'll definitely be in calculation. But I 271 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: think the other thing as well is there's just so 272 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: much value in the forward line, and so you know, 273 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: it's type for spots. So he's probably going to need 274 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: to be showing a bit in the preseason to justify 275 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: its selecting him, especially if. 276 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 5: There's a few rookies, cheaper rookies around as well. 277 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for your point, I think Oscar Allen's another 278 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: one who's shown that key forwards can be money makers, 279 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: but you sort of have to ride the rollercoaster a 280 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: bit with him. Now we'll get to Demo. Sorry, but 281 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: that I've maked w the order already, so I'm terrible 282 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: at this. Whoever's big it's supposed to be, now, feel 283 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: free to jump in. 284 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: I'll jump in because I really want this guy. And 285 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: we did stitch up Damo, so I'm hoping that this 286 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: wasn't your first pick. Demos did stitch up. But my 287 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: man Taylor made for a second year breakout ari show 288 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: and maker at two one hundred and seventy five hundred dollars. 289 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 2: Haven't heard his name too much this preseason, but only 290 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: played the four games last year average sixty four super 291 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: Coach points. We still saw some impressive highlights though, with 292 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: that booming left peg and elite disposal. The thing that 293 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: I really like about him this year, there's no Josh Battle. 294 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: He's off to the Hawks. There's no Riley Bonner who 295 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: was delisted. That's twenty three games and nineteen games from 296 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: their defense gone this season. Ari's going to come in 297 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: there and mop up all that. All those possessions took 298 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: kickins last year, even with guys like Jack Sinclair and 299 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: Asia Wanganeen Miller in the side, had a massive kick 300 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: to handball ratio in those in those four games, four 301 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: point twenty seven kick to handball ratio in the AFL. 302 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: That was twelfth overall of all players, and among defenders 303 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: the guys above him was only people like Luke Ryan, 304 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: Steven May and Econo McKenna randomly as well in there. 305 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: But for me, you know, last year, this time last year, 306 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: he was doing conditioning blocks in January February last year 307 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: to get up to AFL standard and was even made 308 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: to do some VFL training at this time last year. 309 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: So from what we've seen, he's training with the main 310 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: team he's my man for a big, big breakout in 311 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: year two, and at two hundred and seventy k, you 312 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: know you can just slot him in defense. Got a 313 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: great buy as well, had some massive NFL numbers, so 314 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: Ari shall make it. I'm big on in this price bracket. 315 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: I did own him late last year and he is 316 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: very fun to own because every time he kicks it, 317 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: it's always fifty five to a contest, and he did 318 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: have a couple of bigger games. The one I guess 319 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: counterpoint is Toby Trevalia coming in. Does he take those points? 320 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: Does he take the role? 321 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 322 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: If I think Ari his kicking is a huge plus 323 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: because he can kick it sixty on a bad day 324 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: and really, you know, with his penetrating kick really set 325 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: it up for defense. But yeah, it would be interesting 326 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: to see if his role, if he is a lock 327 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: in there and if he is that number one distributor 328 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: from the Saints defense. 329 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's a good PI. I don't know if 330 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: he quite fits the criteria for this is his second 331 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: year rookie. I've really been looking. 332 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: At Okay though, that's that's smoky. 333 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 5: I reckon that calls that counts. 334 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: Let it, Damo we've finally get to you who we 335 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: haven't taken all the guys you had in mind. 336 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: No, luckily not. I'm I'm looking at Tom Douday at 337 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty six K, so he's priced at 338 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: forty nine. He averaged seventies and eighties at the Crows, 339 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: but in twenty twenty one he finished with an eighty 340 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: five point four average for the year. But first nine 341 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: games average ninety two point three and then the last 342 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 4: five games average ninety point two. And we know what 343 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: the Crows, they didn't always have the most conventional key 344 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: defender setup, so when he had his low games, that's 345 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: probably when he had to be stationed back in a 346 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: lockdown role. But now is at Brisbane obviously a year 347 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: out of the system with the ACL, but I don't 348 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: think he plays too much lockdown with Stacevich, Payne and 349 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: Andrews all down there, and his high ceiling games came 350 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: when he was able to roam up to the wing 351 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: and go across half back and intercept and distribute a 352 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: bit more. So two fifty six K even if he 353 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 4: only gets up to his eighties average, he's still going 354 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: to make a bit of money for us. 355 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I must have been when I looked up some 356 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: isn't them as I was a bit surprised by some 357 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: of those eighties and scores and above that which I 358 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: thought he was a real lockdown, fullback kind of guy. 359 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously he has the potential to score a bit. 360 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: But hasn't been much news around him over the summer. 361 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: Do we know if he's how he's tracking on that 362 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: sort of injury comeback. 363 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: I don't think it was a like a full tear 364 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: that he did of his ACL when he did it, 365 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: so I don't think they were worried about him being 366 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: out for any proportion of this season. But I don't 367 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 4: know if he's in full training yet. But we saw 368 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: how good Will Ashcroft was after his recovery, so we 369 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: know that Brisbane know the you know, the steps to 370 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 4: make their players return in the best possible condition. 371 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely want to put on the radar. So 372 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I think now we go back around to it is 373 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: your turn again, Dan, right as you say with the Times. 374 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, we got got another name we can put 375 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: on our watch list. 376 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going another line. I'm surprised is slid this far? 377 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: What an absolute slide? Are Kitty Coleman at two sixty 378 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: nine K a little bit out of sight, out of mind, 379 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: but at that price, it's it's hard to miss him 380 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 3: when you're scrolling down the list trying to look at 381 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: defender options to seventy K. Obviously suffered that that acl 382 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: in in the first round of last season, but you 383 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: look at you know what sticks in my mind is 384 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: that twenty twenty three Final Series. He pumped out of 385 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: one twenty seven in the prelium against the Blues and 386 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: then it was pretty much best on ground in the 387 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 3: first half of that Grand Final against Collingwood with a 388 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: he had twenty six disposals, six tackles, eight marks, seven 389 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: rebound fifties, one hundred twenty seven super Coach points again, 390 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 3: so that's back to back one twenty sevens from his 391 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: last three, last two completed games, and you think that 392 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: he's got a pretty defined role there for the Lions. 393 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's quite a good pick there 394 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: in defense with there's obviously a few other options like 395 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: Callum Mills and think that sort of cheaper sort of 396 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: a price range, but yeah, I think he's probably going 397 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: to be in my team. 398 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 5: I would have thought and you're. 399 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: I guess the one question mark maybe is does he 400 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: take kick ins? But you know, I'm probably getting Kitty 401 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: Calmen to take kick ins over maybe a Connor McKenna. 402 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 5: Race back does Yeah, he might be. 403 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: It might be of a race there back to the 404 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: and yeah, hopefully it doesn't run too fast into his acl again. 405 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's probably the only real question mark. So 406 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see where he slots him. But yeah, 407 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: it's great, a great priced. 408 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: How much are you thinking about the fixture at this 409 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: stage when we were already talking about a colem when 410 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: maybe a due day and then you know Colla Mills, 411 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: these guys and they all have a by in round three. 412 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Is that something we should be panicking about in early January? 413 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 4: I mean, keep it in the back of your minds. 414 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: But it's it's it's only just the team pick. You 415 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 4: just play around find the players you like. But yeah, 416 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: Kitty Colbert, like twelve months ago, he was in a 417 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 4: lot of teams at three ninety eight K and now 418 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 4: two sixty nine K, so he should be just as popular. 419 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: Finished twenty twenty three with an average of ninety four 420 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: point nine if you include the finals. So I mean 421 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 4: over the last ten games. I mean, so I see 422 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: no reason why people shouldn't pick him. And even in 423 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: that game that he tore his ACL in, he scored 424 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: thirty seven in forty four percent game time, which is 425 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: a pretty good points per minute. So yeah, he should 426 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: be pretty popular this this this year at two sixty 427 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: nine K. 428 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's another one will obviously be watching pretty close 429 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: over preseason to say how he's tracking on the comeback 430 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: from that ACL. So if I am looking at things rightly, 431 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: I think I have the next pick, and I'm going 432 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: with a crow in Isaac Cumming, former Giant who I 433 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: have picked in Super Coach in the past, price at 434 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: just fifty three average this year two hundred and eighty 435 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: seven K, after really sort of falling off the radar 436 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. He averaged ninety two 437 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one and ninety four in twenty 438 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: twenty two, to think I must have picked him in 439 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: one of those years, but in twenty twenty three that 440 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: fell to sixty nine, and then he only played four 441 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: games last year, although he did come back in for 442 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the finals and scored sixty four and one oh three, 443 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: so sort of pricks up your attention and then he 444 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: moves over to the Crows, where you think, obviously they've 445 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: got an idea if they want to play him for start, 446 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: which that's an immediate boost. I guess the big issue 447 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: is going to be weird does he fit into that 448 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: Crows team and if he's in the back line taking 449 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: kick ins, which is something he's done in the past, 450 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: I think that is you know what I really want 451 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: to see. He only took one kick in for the 452 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: whole of last year and he didn't play on from it. 453 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: But if you go back to twenty twenty one, he 454 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: took one hundred and forty and played on from seventy 455 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: seven percent. In twenty twenty two he took one hundred 456 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: and twenty nine kickings and played on from ninety percent. 457 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: So no convincedence. That's when he was scoring really well. 458 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: So for me, it's just a really close watch in 459 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: the preseason to see exactly where he's playing. I think 460 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: he's had a bit of a hamstring niggle already, which 461 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a setback, which is something 462 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: that he's had some problems with, So that's not ideal, 463 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: but you'd want to get him back in you know, 464 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: if at least for those preseason games and get a 465 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: good look at him. But at that price, he's another one. 466 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about James Peeling the other day, 467 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, could you potentially pick both of them? But yeah, 468 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: another real serious option there in the midfield. I think it, 469 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, just the under three hundred k price range. 470 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the injury concern early, it's just it's it's 471 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: something that, yeah, unfortunately must be talked about. But do 472 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: you really I guess I'll throw it a damo. Do 473 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: you see him getting back to those GWS ways or 474 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: do you do you think sort of the game has 475 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: sort of sped up a fair bit seen he was 476 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: doing those those big numbers, taking lots of kick ins. 477 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: Do you think he can still have a big enough 478 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: impact to Obviously he's dirt cheap, so you know you'd 479 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: expect him to go up a little a fair bit regardless, 480 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: but as a midfield slot, you kind of it. It's 481 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: pretty valuable slot to be using on eyes at coming. 482 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say, I love everything about 483 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: the selection, apart from the fact that he's a mid only. 484 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: It's an awkward price to having your midfield, especially with 485 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: all the other value in there. So like if it 486 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: was a defender, I reckon he would be rivaling you know, 487 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: the likes of you Kittie Coleman's and you Callum Mills' 488 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: selection in the back line. But as a midfielder, is 489 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: he really worth using one of your midfield spots for him, 490 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: especially when you've got the likes of James Petling as well. 491 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: That's about eighty k more. That's probably going to be 492 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 4: a little bit more fruitful, a bit more of a 493 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: fruitful selection for you. So yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, 494 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 4: he might get to his mid nineties average again playing 495 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: that half back role, you know, basically emulating what Brodie 496 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 4: Smith has done, but is that enough for you to 497 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: select him in your midfield. 498 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: I don't. 499 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: I don't know yet. 500 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, a fair question. I mean I think he's a 501 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: definite candidate to get DPP maybe at round six, whether 502 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: that helps it all sort of, And we'd pick a 503 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: few of us picked Nick Martin last year under that 504 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: theory that at that time he could swing him back 505 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: to the back line. But yeah, it's hard when there's 506 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: only so many slots to go in the midfield and 507 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: we have as Dan keeps telling us all these amazing 508 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: rookies that we want to pick in there as well. 509 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: He might score well for you know, fifty or hundred 510 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: k cheaper than coming. So yeah, he's He's definitely not 511 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: a lock, but yeah, definitely someone I like the look 512 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: of and as I said, I have picked him in 513 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: the past and he's been good to me, So I'm 514 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: keen to see how he goes over at the Crows. 515 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: Does he take the kick ins you reckon at the Crows? 516 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I mean again, yeah, we 517 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: just have to watch and see. I don't think they 518 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: had a real obvious designated kick in taker last year, 519 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: so that's potentially open. But he has also been known 520 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: to sort of slide up onto a wing, and you know, 521 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: we definitely don't want him doing that. So yeah, we'll 522 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: see what the role looks like. He starts seeing some 523 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: some intro clubs and mutual practice matches. 524 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 5: Mark, Yeah, that's right. I was going to say huge. 525 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: With the two kicking leaders at Adelaide, So yeah, yeah, 526 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: if they decide that he's in that role, I think 527 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: probably we have to look a little bit closer. But 528 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: he's another one that i'd be happy to just wait 529 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: and see. I think unless he just blows our socks 530 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: off in preseason games or matches him that we see 531 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: and we can see he's clearly in the role. He's 532 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: one that I'm not willing to give him that Riley 533 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: Bonner sort of tag. How it was just very clear 534 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: in the preseason. I don't know with the Isaac coming 535 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: at this point, but yeah, he's definitely one to watch. 536 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 2: Shall I jump into my pick which also surprise this 537 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: guy's slid so far. I think he might be one 538 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: of the most owned players in super Coach when the 539 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: game does open. But Matt Flynn two hundred and sixty 540 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: one thousand, nine hundred priced at just forty eight a ruck, 541 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: and that the West Coast Eagles desperately need just the 542 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: four games last year with ankle and hamstring issues. Played 543 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: six games in the Waffle as well, average ninety six 544 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: in the Waffle, So showed you know, I mean, we 545 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: know second tier comps, a lot of these players just 546 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: dominate regardless, but still had six hitouts to advantage thirty 547 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: one hitouts a game could manage fifteen disposals in that league. 548 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: It isn't the easiest league going around. The waffle, so 549 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: we can say at least it's not the old Nethl 550 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: days there. 551 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 5: So Matt Flynn sample under eights. 552 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think honestly though, if he's named, I 553 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: think it's just a smash platflex. We're always asking or wondering, 554 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: how do we play these these R threes that you 555 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: know we want to take a punt on? And if 556 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: Matt Flynn is named and is playing early, I think 557 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: he's kind of almost not a no brainer. You know, 558 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: there's lots of different strategies you can play with the 559 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: new flex position if you are if you have been 560 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: living under a rock, flex is the new position in 561 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: super Coach. There's going to be twenty three players on 562 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: field this year and only your best twenty two account. 563 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, Mattlin for me, is going to 564 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: be a really popular selection, at least in the early 565 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: planning stages before we kind of figure out those those 566 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 2: round one teams. 567 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the only question for me on him 568 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: is just, you know, in our dream world, he just 569 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: walks straight back into the number one rock roll of 570 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: the Eagles, and we've seen cheap rucks is such a 571 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: great way to score Super Coach points if you're effectively 572 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: comparing him to other rookies in other positions. You know, 573 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: at the ruckie just get first crack at every stoppage 574 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: and even if you're half decent at it, you'll average 575 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: seventy or eighty. And we've seen, you know, the Jordan's 576 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Sweets of the world come in and make a heap 577 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: of money doing that. So it'll be great if that's 578 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: the role that he gets. I just you know, I 579 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: sort of want to see it because those they got 580 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: him from GWS for that role and last year he 581 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: had injuries and things just didn't work for him and 582 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: Bailey Williams played there. Yeah, how do they use those guys? Hew? 583 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: Does the puzzles sort of fit together this year? And again, 584 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: I guess once we get some actual games, we'll get 585 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: a better look at that. 586 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to see what mcgold wants to do 587 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: with the squad and how they shape up as well. 588 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: There's going to be just so many it's one to 589 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: really watch closely. But he's a guy that they need regardless, 590 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: I think, and hopefully get some games into him this year. 591 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: But Demo, you're up next, mate. 592 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: I better pick someone from the dockers, I'm going with 593 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: Nathan O Drisko one hundred and ninety eight K. He's 594 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: been injury ravaged over the last few seasons and it's 595 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: not been because of choice that he's been out of 596 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 4: the docker's side. And I think in an ideal world 597 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 4: he is playing on the opposite wing to Jeremy Sharp, 598 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 4: running the ball from half back to half forward, being 599 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: that guy that can also go inside if needed, kind 600 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 4: of almost like a more outside version of Humor Pluggage, 601 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 4: if that's at all possible. But I mean, if he 602 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 4: can get back to the way that he was playing 603 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 4: in his debut season, when I think he scored nineties 604 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 4: in his first two weeks of full games or close 605 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: to that. Anyway, I reckon at one ninety eight K 606 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 4: he is an absolute bargain and he only needs to 607 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: make one hundred K on hundred and fifty K to 608 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 4: be a successful selection. And at this stage you'd think 609 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: he's in the docks best twenty three heading into round one. 610 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: I remember his rookie year. I think you know, we 611 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: were sort of he sort of came out onto the 612 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 2: scene because I think he didn't sorry his second year 613 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: he sort of managed to crack into the team. I 614 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: think it was. And yeah, he seemed to be kind 615 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: of that heart and soul player demo like you're saying, 616 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: and he sort of has had some big performances over 617 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: the years, but coming in at sort of basically almost 618 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: basement or you're paying sort of like a top end 619 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: draft pick, sort of top ten draft pick range, Dan, 620 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: do you reckon he's got sort of maybe a bit 621 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: more job security or would you sort of be leaning 622 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: towards I know you know the draft really well, would 623 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: you prefer to spend that money on one of these 624 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: gun players from the draft this year? 625 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting we sort of know what we're 626 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: going to get from O'dris skull like and he has 627 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: been a profitable, profitable rookie before, but he was at 628 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 3: that basement price of course, you know, playing in that 629 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: wing role. It'll be interesting to see sort of which 630 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: you obviously obviously you even look at like Melbourne, there's 631 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: often an unrewarded winger who you know, or even Camden Macintosh, 632 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: say at Richmond, who's not getting many of the touches, 633 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: but he's just running end to end. So where is 634 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: it Jeremy Sharp who's getting most of the possessions and 635 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: you're playing in the attacking role and it's it's not 636 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: playing as the in the defensive role. So it'll be 637 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: interesting in that regard. But yeah, you compare it to say, 638 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: like a Josh Smile, who's probably going to be playing 639 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: inside midfield most weeks, and there's a a host of 640 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: others who could potentially be in the frame in that 641 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: midfield mix. I'd probably have others aheads I think, and 642 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: less he can. He really shoots the lights out in 643 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: the preseason and we know he's going to have like 644 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: a pretty pretty promising role. But yeah, I mean it's 645 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: definitely one to look at, especially if those other midfield 646 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: rookies don't emerge or that you know, maybe they debut 647 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: a bit later than opening round or round one. 648 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so it's background to you. Damn, we got 649 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: one pick each left. Is there any any gems still 650 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: left on the board. 651 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: There's not a lot, to be honest, But I'll go 652 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: a bit outside the box. I've been a little bit 653 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: cookie cutter, and this isn't really the podcast. We've been 654 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: a cookie cutter, but you know, I'll go from a 655 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: guy I've been watching at Cat's training in camp Gus 656 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: three two hundred and seventy eight k midfielder Price at 657 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: fifty two average. You know, he won a Best in 658 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: Ferris in He's joined Best in Ferris in Geelong's premiership 659 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: year in twenty twenty two. But since then he's only 660 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: played about ten games all up. And last year, who 661 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: played about five or six games, sorry seven, I think 662 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: it was about seven or eight games all up, and 663 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: that was including VFL as well. I tried to get 664 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: back in late in the season and after that achilles 665 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: issue that really plagued him throughout the season. But yeah, 666 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: and his year so it looked like a decent He 667 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: actually was going to be in my team to start 668 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three and then his first practice game pinned 669 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: his quad. It was pretty much in the first ten 670 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: or twenty seconds of the game. So injury obviously is 671 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: the massive question mark. But he's been running well at 672 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 3: Cat's training. Obviously it's only running, but he's on a 673 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: bit of a modified program there down at the Cutteries. 674 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: So we know what he has produced in the past. 675 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: You think that's probably beyond him. But if you can 676 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 3: get to a ninety five one hundred average, especially over 677 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 3: those sort of first eight weeks you can easily pivot 678 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: to a premium after making a fair bit of cash. 679 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: But the only obviously, along with those injury issues. 680 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 5: He's thirty two. 681 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: And he does have that round three by so if 682 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: you are picking him, you probably can't pick your Kitty Colemans, 683 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: Tom Dooday and a lot of those guys. But yeah, 684 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: I think he's another one. Obviously it's slim pickings in 685 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: this sort of bracket, but yeah, another to you know, 686 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: keep a bit of a watch on during the preseason. 687 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: Baylor Smith obviously is the other one who shares the 688 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: buy in of course playing in the same team. But 689 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: we've been talking about him a lot, and a lot 690 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: of the talk is you know, who's the Cat's number 691 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: one midfield of Bears is just going to walk straight 692 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: in there? But how do you see it shaking up? 693 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: And does you know is Cam Guthrie part of the mix? 694 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting question because you know, obviously you've 695 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: got Bailly Smith, Tanner Bruin, camp Guthrie of his feet. 696 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 5: You think Danger is probably going to be out of 697 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: there a bit more. 698 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: But they still did so much better when he was 699 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: in versus when he was out. 700 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 5: On the sidelines. 701 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Joie Clark, but yeah, I don't think they've been 702 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: trolling him off half back to start the preseason as well, 703 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: which is interesting because he doesn't have a great kick 704 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: on him, but yeah, you know he's pretty agile. So 705 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: and then obviously Max Holmes and Tom Stewart, like you know, 706 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: it could be a bit of a horses for courses 707 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: with with Max Holmes because he seems to inject so much, 708 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: whether it's in defense or the midfield. So to answer 709 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: your question, I'll absolutely no idea what's going to happen. 710 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: I think you can bank on Ballely Smith being there, 711 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: but yeah, can Guthrie will be there if he's fit, 712 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: but again that's a big if. 713 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 5: They'll definitely be conservative with him. 714 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: I would have thought, apologies if this is anyone on 715 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: anyone's list, and cut me off and we can talk 716 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: about him after. But just speaking about Geelong as well, 717 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: is there any news on Toby Conway for this season 718 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: coming down? 719 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been on a modified program when I've been 720 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: down there. Obviously you've got your Cam Guthries and Jack 721 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: Martins who are sort of completing some of training. And 722 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: then sort of just going off and doing their own running, 723 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: whereas Toby hasn't been doing a lot. But it's no 724 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: actual injury he had obviously the stress fractures or stress 725 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 3: fructuring his foot that end of this season. It seems 726 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: to be more just a conservative management rather than necessarily 727 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 3: that foot injury that he's. 728 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 5: Been sidelined with. 729 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm very unsure about how they're going to 730 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: go about the rucks, whether it is a Sanda Coning 731 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 3: who ends up rucking as he did at times during 732 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 3: the second half of the year and then or whether 733 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 3: they go again with ree Stanley or even Mitch Edwards, 734 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: the draft e from a couple of years ago who 735 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 3: showing some good signs on the track. But yeah, you 736 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: think Toby Conway will be fit for around one. But 737 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 3: I think just like last year, they're not gonna throw 738 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: him to the wolves. It might be two weeks in, 739 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: one week out. That's sort of that sort of thing, 740 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 3: as they did last year managing him along with ree Stanley. 741 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, the fact that Reeve Stanley's on 742 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: going on another year isn't a great sign in terms 743 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 3: of the trust they have in Toby Kanway's body. So yeah, 744 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: I think that all certainly will play out a bit 745 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,479 Speaker 3: over the next couple of months, and. 746 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: A mid price anyway, he would have been in the 747 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: other bracket, so that's my bad anyway. 748 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 6: So yeah, still potential value there, but yeah, you'd want 749 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 6: to make sure he's getting a regular game if you're 750 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 6: playing three hundred and forty k rap l. 751 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yes, it must have been. My topics have 752 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: all been spoken about already. But so let's just go 753 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: absolutely crazy here and someone I had not thought about 754 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: it all until I read an article in The held 755 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: Son about two days ago, and that is Jack Silvanni. 756 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: He's two hundred and fifty nine. Kay missed all of 757 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: last year after doing his ACL in January. Looking at 758 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: his numbers in the past, he's averaged around seventy seventy five, 759 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: which you know, it's not bad, but probably not enough 760 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: to pick him at that price. But then there's a 761 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: mention in Josh Barnes wrote this article on the Held 762 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: it's unsaying I think might have even been talking up 763 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: about training with the defenders. I think he's just in 764 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: the WhatsApp group with some of the defenders, and Josh asked, Jack, 765 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: is this a real thing about playing in defense this year, 766 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: and his quote is, as far as I know, it's legit. 767 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely one to just to pencil into the 768 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: watch list. And if you know, we've seen this before 769 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: where players that you hadn't really even thought about go 770 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: into defense and play a role where they're maybe you 771 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: can imagine him playing a bit loose floating around getting 772 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: some uncontested in intercept marks even and that can be 773 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: a real ticket to super coat scoring. So he's wanting 774 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: to keep in mind. I remember picking Mitch McGovern down 775 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: at the Blues a couple of years ago, thinking he's 776 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: going to take all the intercept marks and didn't quite 777 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: work out. But yeah, Jack's a very solid citizen as 778 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: we know, and yeah, he could be a fun pick 779 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: in super Coach. So he's a forward obviously, So again 780 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: we talk about the forwards being pretty crowded with all 781 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: these value picks, but he's another one that we could 782 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: potentially look at. 783 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that had that fantastic year a couple of years ago, 784 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: but he was playing quite a bit of midfield and 785 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: like almost backup rock when he seemed to score well. 786 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 2: Because I remember I was a draft owner at the time, 787 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: and I was he had the weirdest role. He could 788 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: just sort of like, I mean, throwing him in defense 789 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 2: probably isn't a surprise. He's sort of a jack of 790 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: all trades, can do a bit of everything. So yeah, 791 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: he'd be a real punt for me. I think, I 792 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: think I know you had to, I know you had 793 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: to clutch at something there alver. I think I'd be 794 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 2: really waiting to see some sort of role out of him. 795 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: I think he'll be purely on my draft boards in 796 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: super coach and nothing else, but. 797 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 3: This could many teams. He got eighteen teams in that draft. 798 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: Is your last pick? 799 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: Look, speaking of players taking a punt on, this is 800 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 2: my final pick. And another guy that maybe he's left 801 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: see our taste in our mouth in the in the 802 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 2: past and certainly been mostly just draft relevant, but coming 803 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: to the power this season at two hundred and thirty 804 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: three thousand, seven hundred dollars to take Dan Houston's role 805 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 2: surging up to a ninety five to one hundred average, 806 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: we got Rory Atkins. 807 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 5: How it's all in the sample super coach. 808 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: Most likely three games at AFL level last year only 809 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: average thirty eight, But in the VFL he was absolutely 810 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: killing it for the Gold Coast Suns last season, thirty 811 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: three disposals a game, twenty one kicks when it's seventy 812 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 2: seven percent kicking efficiency, racked up ten marks a game 813 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: in seven rebound fifties, one hundred and twenty seven super 814 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 2: coach points for him on average in those sixteen games, 815 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: So not a small sample size for that average. Why 816 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 2: not Rory Atkins. They're searching for a player to use 817 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: in their back line that you know who is it? 818 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: Is it going to be josh Sin? We've had names 819 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: we hit here, Joshin's name every preseason just about for 820 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: since he's been drafted, So five seasons averaging over seventy 821 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: for Rory Atkins, including seventy two as recently as twenty 822 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: twenty three from seventeen games with the Sun. So look 823 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: at two thirty three k I'm probably not bold enough 824 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: to do it, but we've heard over here in Adelaide. 825 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: He had a presser when he first came. There was 826 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 2: quite a bit of Rory Atkins Bazza. They threw him 827 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: to Medea a few times, but he was saying, look, I'm, 828 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: you know, keen to have an impact this year and beyond, 829 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: so he's sort of pegging himself into the lineup for 830 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: a few years to come. Still, So look, if if 831 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 2: his confidence has anything to show for it, maybe he 832 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: will have a role this year. Let's wait and see. 833 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: But if he is named and he has a role, 834 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: you know there's plenty of ball to go back there 835 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 2: with Dan Houston out of the side. Demo your thoughts 836 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 2: on Rory Atkins. 837 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: I have no thoughts on Rory Atkins. He has not 838 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 4: come into my thinking at all. I know a few 839 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 4: years ago he was rookie price, pretty close to rookie price, 840 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 4: and everyone was wanting to get him in late in 841 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 4: the season because he was the only one actually making money. 842 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 4: But as far as a selection for twenty twenty five goes, 843 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 4: I think I'd have to be pretty down the bottom 844 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 4: of my list as be selecting him in my starting side. 845 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: Dam I just a quick quote from Chris Davies, like 846 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: just when they did the Houston trade and god Atkins, 847 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 3: he said of him, we think he can add depth 848 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 3: to our squad overall, you know the issue we've got 849 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 3: with senior players at sample level. We think he can 850 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 3: definitely do a job for us there. So I think 851 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: that says all you need pretty much to saying we 852 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 3: picked a sample player. 853 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 2: That is right rough, all right, round out this. Who 854 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 2: have you got? You got some diamond in the rough 855 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 2: that we've missed here. 856 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 4: I think my pick might be worse than Rory Atkins, 857 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: to be honest, I've gone with Bailey Humphrey at the 858 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 4: Suns two seventy K in his debut season. He had 859 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: a RUND average of ninety six point two. And everyone's 860 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 4: picking or has picked Shy Bolton in the past because 861 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 4: of his role. Let him move when he rolls up 862 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 4: into the midfield off the half forward line and sometimes 863 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 4: attends some center bounces, and Bailey Humphrey when he plays 864 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 4: that role, he has a really high ceiling. No idea 865 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 4: what Damian Hardwick has planned after all these acquisitions in 866 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 4: the off season, you know, drafting Leo Lombard, got Noah 867 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 4: Anderson matt Row. Who knows where Sam Flanders plays this season? 868 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 4: What do they do with John Noble and Daniel RIALI. 869 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 4: But if Bailey Humphrey can forge a role similar to 870 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 4: like a Dylan Moore like econom McDonald kind of thing 871 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 4: at the Suns and he has some midfield minutes, pushing 872 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 4: up from half forward. Then Bailey Humphrey might be someone 873 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 4: we look at, but you know, it's not a great 874 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 4: selection to fit to round out the podcast with, but 875 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 4: just someone that sticks in my mind because I had 876 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 4: him late in that season when he was getting those 877 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 4: big scores. I think we all jumped on him around 878 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 4: that buy because we wanted some money to play with 879 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 4: in upgrades in that season. 880 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 2: I remember, I think there was a highlight from when 881 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 2: he played VFL, I think before maybe getting into the AFL, 882 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 2: or a preseason highlight. It was something where he did 883 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: the Dusty fend off and it was a goal from 884 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 2: outside fifty. So I remember some Dusty comparisons early in 885 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 2: the career, and yeah, I didn't know that that five 886 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: round average you mentioned, I think that sounded pretty pretty 887 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 2: full memory. 888 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: He had this ridiculous run where he kicking Darlin That's right, 889 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: he kicked like the winning goal two or three games 890 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: in a row, or you know, the clutch golded sealer 891 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: where he got this extra little spike at the end 892 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: of the game to push his score up. But I 893 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: remember because I didn't have him and it was really 894 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: annoying and he kept doing it. But I think Dan 895 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: you might have been a happy Humphrey owner from not 896 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: Mistaken then and also did a bit of work on 897 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, talking to him before he was drafted. 898 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's a great kid. It does a lot 899 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 3: in the mental health space. So I suppose to him 900 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 3: in the lead up to him being drafted, so watched 901 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: him very close. I think it's a matter of of if, 902 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 3: not a matter of when, not if he becomes a 903 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 3: full time midfielder. He's just so damaging as we saw 904 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 3: during that period that Damo mentions. You know, he was 905 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: only having about sixty percent time on ground because he 906 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: was he was pretty gas. But you know, he has 907 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: the capacity to win games and whether in the in 908 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 3: the midfield or up forwards. So I think he will 909 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 3: become a lot more super coach relevant into the future. 910 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just whether he can get that consistent 911 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 3: midfield time and whether he is his tank is up 912 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 3: to it, because you know, if that's all, if he's 913 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 3: ticking those boxes, then yeah he's you know, he can 914 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 3: have twenty five disposals and win you a game and 915 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 3: you know, kick kick two goals. So yeah, he's super damaging, 916 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 3: super powerful at the contest and yeah, as we saw 917 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 3: it can't kick goals, but yeah, it's just that midfield 918 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: forward split. Whether whether it sort of tips over that 919 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 3: sort of sixty percent, then we can definitely consider it. 920 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's hard to break into that suns of midfield, 921 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: especially with guys like Leo Lombard and obviously the stack 922 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 3: midfield they already have. 923 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: Interesting he said, yeah, he's already yeah, you know, a 924 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: pretty mature guy talking about some of those mental health 925 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: issues very early on. And he did an interview with 926 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: Calm dickup in Brisbane in December where he talked about 927 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: being compared to Dustin Martin early in his career with 928 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, some of those traits that he had, and 929 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: he said that, yeah, he did actually struggle with that 930 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: a little bit, and he's the quote is it did 931 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: take a toll on me mentally. I felt like I 932 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: had to be him having thirty disposals and three goals 933 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: every game, and when I didn't do that, I feel 934 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: like I was letting people down. So he's, you know, 935 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: that's sort of something that he's actually working through himself. 936 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: To you, as he says, forge his own path, and 937 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, he knows he doesn't have to be compared 938 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: to someone like Dusty, So yeah, he's got a pretty 939 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: mature head on his shoulders, and yeah, you know from 940 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: what we've seen, and be great if he can break 941 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: out and have a successful career. But yeah, would that 942 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: translate to a successful pick in Super Coach, I mean 943 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: potentially the prices. He is a tempting so definitely one 944 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: to watch. 945 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 2: I think now if we're not picking him in our 946 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,919 Speaker 2: classic size, we're definitely looking at him in our keeper league, 947 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 2: in our draft league. So yeah, regardless, a great, a great, 948 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 2: great pick that day, mate. 949 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, good shout. So I've just had a few other 950 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: names that we didn't get to, but I thought I 951 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: just mentioned because it's sort of surprising how many experienced 952 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: players show up when you do look through the you know, 953 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: scrolling scrolling down down down to the bottom of the 954 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: Super Coach prices, and some pretty surprising ones in there, 955 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: or just some blasts from the past. I mean I've 956 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: seen in a couple of early teams Callum Coleman Jones. 957 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: He's only one hundred and twenty eight thousand as a forward, 958 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: but we know he hasn't quite fulfilled his potential. And 959 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: also he's got a delayed preseason at the moment with 960 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: some complications in his record hed. 961 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 5: He sidelined until May or June as well. 962 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 3: From that, he had a really really nasty injury last 963 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: year stretch it off, so you'll probably cross him off 964 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 3: the lease even but when he maybe it's a mid 965 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 3: season down. 966 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 5: Great option of one thirty K if he breaks. 967 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: In Joe Ferra, who not a hugely well no name 968 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: but at court more because I know our friend Tim 969 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: has picked him in the past in Super Coach, maybe 970 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: you'll go there again this year. He's only one hundred 971 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: and nineteen thousand despite being aged twenty eight. He was 972 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: originally drafted in twenty nineteen, but struggled to get a 973 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: game in the last couple of years. Over back over 974 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: in Frio, Oscar McDonald only played the one game last 975 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: year and hurt his knee, so I don't if there's 976 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: any hope that he'll get back into Frio's best team. 977 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: But he's only one hundred and nineteen k in defense, 978 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 1: so there's a few others there. What about David Swallow, 979 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: former number one draft pick. He's played two hundred and 980 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: forty AFL games. He's two hundred and thirty three thousand 981 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: defense forward DPP. Is that to tempt you at all? 982 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: Does he not? 983 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 2: At all? Every time last year was yeah, No. 984 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: Actually he was the sub nine times. Yeah, so it 985 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: became a bit of a professional Subit got another year 986 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: on the list. What about Dom Sheeed? What happened to him? 987 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: He's now two hundred and thirty eight thousand, but only 988 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: averaged forty four last year. 989 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought about mentioning him on this show. There 990 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: was just guys. I probably like more. Maybe he could 991 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 2: have taken the Rory Atkin spotfight. Look, Sheed, I think 992 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: I started to worry. I think it was two years 993 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: ago people were talking about him as an option, and 994 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: I saw him wearing the career savers out there on 995 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: the field, the old assex trustee shoes that are only 996 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 2: you only wear when really towards the end of the career, 997 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: not the start. 998 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 3: I think I wore an old junior career. So it 999 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 3: probably says about. 1000 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: Brow generally, but no, he I really I hope he 1001 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 2: gets back to his best. He's only twenty nine years old, 1002 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 2: so probably in that in that mold of you know, 1003 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: I think he's even younger than your Cam Guthrie. Who 1004 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 2: if he can crack back in. But both those guys, 1005 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: you know, veterans that have done it before. Sheed's never 1006 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 2: been to the to the heights of a cam Guthrie 1007 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 2: in terms of his super coach scoring prowess. But obviously 1008 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: a match winner as we saw in twenty eighteen. So 1009 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 2: a guy that thank you very much so. 1010 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 3: To get that one into for the Hollywood fans listening and. 1011 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: Laste one for day ma. What about Michael Wilds down 1012 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: to two hundred and thirty six thousand at the Dockers, 1013 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: still running around maybe last year, you might think, but 1014 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: is there anything left in the tank for suns? 1015 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 4: I don't even know if he's in the best twenty 1016 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 4: three anymore. You know, they've got Bolton, they've got switch Kowski, 1017 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 4: they've got Stirt. You know, they've just drafted Murphy Reid, 1018 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 4: and then the year and then a year ago they 1019 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 4: got Cooper Simpson as well. So is Michael Walter's even 1020 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 4: in their best twenty two or twenty three anymore? It's 1021 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 4: hard to you can make a case for him, but 1022 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 4: it's also hard to you know, endorse the selection as well. 1023 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a sub specialist sub, come on, impact player. 1024 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: I remember he was a favorite, well not so favorite 1025 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: pick in super coaching years past, when he had a 1026 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: blistering run in the midfield and I brought him in 1027 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: at some ridiculous price and then he went straight back 1028 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: to the forward pocket. So but I do like watching 1029 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: him plays. He's a good fun player to watch. So 1030 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: I think those all the names really exist exhaust too. 1031 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: I had down, but there's plenty of there is from. 1032 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 3: One very I think the one that's snuck through Angus Sheldrick. 1033 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 5: I don't mind him. 1034 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 3: He was looking alright a couple of years ago. It's thought, 1035 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 3: oh gee, it's just you know, you obviously had awesome 1036 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 3: junior numbers again in Waffle under eight en, so you know, 1037 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 3: akin to sample under eight EN's. But yeah, had I've 1038 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,919 Speaker 3: had that sort of Bailey hum Free effect where he 1039 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 3: burst onto the scene and had a good, you know, 1040 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 3: sort of five run game. And you know, with Luke 1041 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 3: Parker out of that side, like, do you think he 1042 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,439 Speaker 3: is a decent shout DOSSI obviously a w A boy, 1043 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 3: but that Dean Cox will will play him in twenty 1044 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:37,919 Speaker 3: twenty five. 1045 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, him and Braden Campbell. I'm really interested to see 1046 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: where they fit into the side. Because Campbell's also a cheaper, 1047 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 2: cheaper price player that should be I think getting more 1048 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: opportunities this year. But averaged I just looked it up. 1049 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 2: Eighty eight super coach average in the VFL last year 1050 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 2: for Sheldrick, which includes presumably an injured game of nine, 1051 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 2: so you'd probably bump that up a little bit into nineties. 1052 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 2: There at least he had six or so tons. And 1053 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 2: you also presume that would have been playing a little 1054 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 2: bit with Luke Parker so in the NFL last year, 1055 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 2: So twenty four disposes of a game four marks, six clearances. 1056 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, he also he was one that when he 1057 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 2: did play early on, I was really keen to see 1058 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 2: him play. Seemed to be able to rack up the pill. 1059 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: So definitely one that I would consider. You know, he 1060 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 2: is in that super cheap sort of rookie bracket. He's 1061 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 2: definitely one that I'd be locking into my team if 1062 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 2: we see that Dean Cox, you know, has his eye 1063 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 2: into some sort of role for Sheldry. 1064 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, from memory, he was a real points per minute guy. 1065 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: When he burst into the scene. He had very low 1066 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: game time, but when he was on, he showed he 1067 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: could actually score points. One of the names that I 1068 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: forgot that I will mention in passing two just because 1069 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: maybe could finish up with him, because we know he's 1070 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: a favorite of the Hipster and the phantoms Layer, and 1071 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: that is Jack Carroll famously kept him by the Hipster 1072 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: one day by mistake, and he's moved from Carlton Tuson 1073 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: killed always picked up as a delisted free agent. Actually 1074 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: played fifth dean games for the Blues last year, but 1075 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: was the sub in nine of those. So you know, 1076 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: we talked about some and kue to midfield, who knows 1077 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 1: what they're going to do over there, but he's only 1078 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty four. K's if award meet in Supercoach, 1079 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: So just wanting to keep an eye if he does 1080 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: get to get a look in in the preseason. He's 1081 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: got a decent game, can win clearances and get his 1082 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: hands on the pill if he gets the opportunity. So 1083 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: here's another one coming in pretty cheap that we could 1084 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: potentially look at. 1085 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 2: Certainly, love love all these options, and again I'll be 1086 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: if I'm not looking at them in classic, I'll be 1087 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 2: certainly pegging him in my draft. 1088 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 5: Boards and seeing him there. 1089 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 2: There's I mean, there's more that we didn't even get 1090 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 2: to but I won't mention them. We've spoken for far 1091 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: too long for an under three hundred k podcast. Thanks 1092 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 2: so much for joining us, Damo. 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