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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the heart of It. We are

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Speaker 1: recording this podcast on gaddigle Land. Hey, my sweet husband, how.

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Speaker 2: Are you, your sweet husband? I'm good, Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a terrific chat we just

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Speaker 3: had with wonderful you guys.

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Speaker 1: Gonna love this oh so much, so much.

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Speaker 3: Amy Shepherd from the band Shepherd say geranimo Yeah and

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Speaker 3: soon to be well.

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Speaker 4: Can we leak it?

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Speaker 3: We found out something She's going to get some country music.

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Speaker 2: Cannot wait for that. And her husband Lockey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now they they might seem on paper, they might seem

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Speaker 1: like they're sort of world's apart, but together, what a

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Speaker 1: powerhouse couple they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, obviously, Amy's a chart topping musician, songwriters.

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Speaker 2: Advocate for body positivity.

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Speaker 3: She's phenomenal and we will know her through Shepherd and

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Speaker 3: what a global sensation they are. Locke's a high performance coach.

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Speaker 3: He's a keynote speaker, works with leaders, athletes and I

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Speaker 3: love this everyday blokes to help them unlock resilience, purpose

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Speaker 3: and true strength far beyond the gymnasium.

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Speaker 1: That's right, So there you go. Amy creates music that

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Speaker 1: kind of moves us and the other helps men move

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Speaker 1: through life sort of with clarity and courage, and together

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Speaker 1: Amy and Lachlan are just writing his gorregeous love story

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Speaker 1: that blends rhythm and resilience and just real connections. So

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Speaker 1: have a listen, and we welcome Amy and Lachlan to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: Amy and Lockey. Welcome to Lachlan or Lockey. What do

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Speaker 2: you prefer?

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Speaker 4: Let's go Lucky.

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Speaker 2: I like Lockey, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: We have so many Lockeys in our lives too. I

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Speaker 1: can't even tell between brothers and daughters.

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Speaker 2: Our son has a boyfriend.

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Speaker 5: Boyfriend is lucky. Our daughter has a boyfriend who's It's

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Speaker 5: funny because it's such a popular name in Australia, but

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Speaker 5: when we moved to the US and people just couldn't

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Speaker 5: get the heads around the name, it's nobody called Locke

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Speaker 5: and they're like lache Yeah, We're like, it's like a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll never forget it. When we as a family

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Speaker 2: And Lockie was in grade six.

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Speaker 3: And he ended up becoming this pistol of a baseball pitcher, right,

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Speaker 3: all the kids go locky.

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Speaker 2: He could not shout out his name, and he was

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Speaker 2: like he was the hero.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's why I went wrong.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have the exceptional talent for them to want

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Speaker 6: to learn the name. They just I still remember one

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Speaker 6: and was just like Leach And I was like, she

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Speaker 5: As far as I can get.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Steve Allen, Okay, this is a great We've just

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Speaker 3: spent two and a half minutes unlucky.

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Speaker 4: Now people won't forget exactly.

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Speaker 3: Amy and Luckey, welcome to the heart of it. It's

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Speaker 3: so good to have you both today. We're really keen

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Speaker 3: to to just learn more about your relationship and also

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Speaker 3: your your individual journeys as well are quite quite amazing,

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Speaker 3: so thanks for being here with us. Look, we are

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Speaker 3: a relationship podcast, so we do want to know about

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Speaker 3: how you met and what that was like. So take

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Speaker 3: us into that first meeting. Was it was it instant chemistry?

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Speaker 2: Where and where did it take place? And give us

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Speaker 4: We'll let you hear Amy's story. There are two stories.

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Speaker 5: But so I was I think it was a Friday

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Speaker 5: night and I was We're in Brisbane, and my friend

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Speaker 5: texted me being like, hey, I really want to meet

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Speaker 5: up with this guy, but I just need a wing gal,

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Speaker 5: like will you come out? And I was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I was like okay, fine, whatever. I just like threw

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Speaker 4: Got got along and makes me sound like a bad bloke.

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Speaker 5: And then we ended up just having fun all night,

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh god, this is like is this

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Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, I had a brilliant idea.

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Speaker 4: In your heels. Tied my shoelace on my heels.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And then he grabbed the clutch and I pulled

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Speaker 5: him in and gave him yes, say yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's so romantic comedy.

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Speaker 3: It's really good, and it's a really old school, like

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Speaker 2: You know, when was this? What year was this?

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Speaker 2: Oh do you concur with all that?

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Speaker 5: What's the sausage roll story?

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Speaker 6: She's definitely told it better than before. The sausage roll

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Speaker 6: story that made me sound horrible. I probably was a

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Speaker 6: twenty two. No, my friend who was hooking up with

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Speaker 6: Amy's friend had he was a cheeky little shit, and

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Speaker 4: Who was you know.

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Speaker 6: They were disagreeing with each other, and everyone had pies

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Speaker 1: Did you have pies and sausage rolls at your wedding

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Speaker 6: Probably at the end there we missed out on all

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so no, the story checks out that was really

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Speaker 6: She always likes to leave out the part where she

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Speaker 1: And at what point did both of you feel like

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Speaker 6: We were only talking about this the other day actually,

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Speaker 4: She was very forward. Back in the day.

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Speaker 6: And we've been We were at the Clowndra Races. Amy

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Speaker 5: No, you make it sound like I was timid. I

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Speaker 4: What about for you?

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Speaker 5: I think it was probably so we dated and like

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Speaker 4: Have a conversation video call.

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Speaker 5: So that's how we dated.

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Speaker 2: Move with with my men's team. So that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: If it's profound work, and thank you for doing it,

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Speaker 1: For you, what was that like watching Locky kind of

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Speaker 5: and also want to because so we can be together

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00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 5: as well, so we can have a better life. I

445
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 5: think that's. Yeah, that's something that I've always noticed and recognized.

446
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 5: So I yeah, it's been wonderful watching him chase his

447
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 5: streams because that's something I'm an ambitious person. I always

448
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 5: am a big believer of, you know, not having everything

449
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 5: planned out and just jumping anyway, like being scared and

450
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 5: doing it anyway. So I think seeing him do that

451
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 5: is always very inspiring for me.

452
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 6: I think as well, it wasn't just always that easy,

453
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 6: like there was a few bumpy parts, like there was

454
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 6: my mood, especially when I used to drink a lot

455
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 6: of alcohol. My mood was just all over the place.

456
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 6: And I still there was many times where Amy's like,

457
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 6: I just don't know what you want or what makes

458
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 6: you happy, or if you want to be with me,

459
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 6: And even though I did, but it's just my mood

460
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 6: would just swing because of that, and then you sort

461
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 6: of look at that. I'm like, Okay, well, I do

462
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 6: love having beers, but I hate having this conversation.

463
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: I hate making you feel this way.

464
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 6: Therefore, can't have the beers because it's just something that

465
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 6: I could never control, no matter how much I thought

466
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 6: I could. But the great thing about Amy was she

467
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 6: would she would never belittle me or yell at me.

468
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 6: She'd just like have a stern conversation, probably like at

469
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 6: the beginning, where she's like she knew what she wanted,

470
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 6: so she'd just bring it up and be very direct.

471
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 6: And for someone who like me, I love the direct

472
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 6: I don't need all the fluff, like just tell me

473
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 6: what's going on, what are you thinking, and then we

474
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 6: can do something about it. I can make some decisions,

475
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 6: and hopefully I make the decisions that make better moves.

476
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 6: But I feel if Amy had sort of tried to

477
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 6: baby me in a way of like kick the can

478
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 6: down the road a little bit, it probably wouldn't have

479
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 6: worked as well. So I think that really was what

480
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 6: I needed because in the past, I'd always got away

481
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 6: with it or I'd never had to address certain things.

482
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 6: So I think when you just yeah, confronted with it,

483
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 6: you have to do something about it.

484
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: Amy, you're very public life, especially in the last decade,

485
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: and busy. You know, what's been the hardest part of

486
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: balancing that life with you know, the serenity of a

487
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: or i say serenity of a marriage life, hmm.

488
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 5: The hardest part, I think more so just having having

489
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 5: everything online. It's like when you get a hater, it's

490
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 5: deeply personal, especially for Shepherd, because it's like it's our

491
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 5: band and it's our family. So not only are people

492
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 5: attacking our you know, creativity and our life's work, but

493
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 5: they're attacking our family and that can be really difficult.

494
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 5: And being online, not just the Shepherd, not just Shepherd,

495
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 5: but also Lucky as well, it can be hard to

496
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: differentiate work from family life as well. So you come

497
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 5: home and you're talking about work and it just consumed

498
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 5: your life. So I think that can be tough sometimes

499
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 5: and sometimes we just have to say, look, we're not

500
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: talking about any of that tonight, like we're going on

501
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 5: to day night. We're just gonna have fun. And I

502
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 5: think that's something that yeah, we've implemented over the last

503
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 5: couple of years that have really helped. Otherwise it is

504
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 5: all consuming and you just become I mean, yeah, it

505
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 5: is a reality, but like the online world, is it

506
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 5: just it should be a part of your life that's online.

507
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 5: It stays there and doesn't come into the home and you.

508
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: You're now reaching out with your own album, right, Yeah,

509
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: that's all right, tell us about that because that's really exciting.

510
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I've loved country music since growing up. My

511
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: dad's a huge country music fan and used to blast

512
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 5: it to wake us up in the morning.

513
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: And who would play Dolly.

514
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 5: Parton of course a big one, but also the Mavericks

515
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 5: I don't really Yeah, so that was one of his favorites. Yeah,

516
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 5: so we'd wake up to music like that, and I

517
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 5: guess some of it rubbed off on me because I,

518
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 5: you know, found his old guitar and had three strings

519
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 5: when I was about ten, and that's when I wanted

520
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 5: to learn how to play guitar and they fix up

521
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 5: the guitar talk. I got lessons, and I carry that

522
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 5: on through high school and then after high school. I

523
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 5: always knew what I wanted to do, and then I

524
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 5: recruited George and Emma, and yeah, the rest is history.

525
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 5: But Shepherd happened naturally and we started writing pop music

526
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 5: and that did really well. We werete Geronimo. But I

527
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 5: always had this itch in the back of my brain

528
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 5: to do country music. But I never thought that, I,

529
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 5: I don't know it was worthy or like, I didn't

530
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 5: grow up on a farm, so I was like, Oh,

531
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 5: I don't know, is that like is that a bit dodgy?

532
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 5: But I always was really great at writing country songs.

533
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 5: And sometimes I would sing a part in Shepherd and

534
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 5: Georgie be like, can you take that again? Because you

535
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 5: had that country yodel and I just kind of got

536
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: sick of that, and I was like, you know what.

537
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 5: I went to see MC Festival in twenty nineteen and

538
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 5: I just saw a lot of the pop influence in

539
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: the country music that was happening. I was like, this

540
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 5: is how I write, Like I should really make an

541
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 5: effort to write some songs and maybe I do it,

542
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 5: but maybe I'm just writing for someone else. So I

543
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 5: went home and I wrote a song called Blue Guitar

544
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 5: and I sent it around to a couple of people,

545
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: Casey Chambers being one, and she texted me back. She

546
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 5: was like, this is amazing. I was like, do you reckon?

547
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: This is something you had seen. She's like, honestly, it's

548
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 5: probably a bit poppy for me, but I think you

549
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: should do it, and just got me thinking a little

550
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 5: bit more. I sent to my manager, Chuggy and yeah,

551
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: they supported me through it, and I just took it

552
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: one step at a time and here we are in

553
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five and I'm about to release my debut

554
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 5: album and yeah, it's all very exciting.

555
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: It's fantastic.

556
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 5: What's it called. It's called Born to Be Country. Oh yeah,

557
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 5: that's as sort of the yeah, the idea of like

558
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: I wasn't born country, but I was born to be country.

559
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: Relate to that.

560
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, you're a big country you're a country fan.

561
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I did a country record in ninety two,

562
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: my first one, no Way.

563
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

564
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: You've probably met Keith Urban and.

565
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah we toured with Keith Urban.

566
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 2: Actually, there you go.

567
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, support act with him and he's an amazing.

568
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: He's a lovely man, isn't he.

569
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

570
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he was on my wreck.

571
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: With his with the guys was the ranch back in

572
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: the day. This is yeah, so country music has been a.

573
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: Big but again is out on Spotify camp.

574
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: It's on there's four of my albums on Spotify lock.

575
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: So I'm going to have a little It's old country. Yeah.

576
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 5: Album is called it's really hard naming an album, I would.

577
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: Say, yeah.

578
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had different different records names. The first

579
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: one was A long Goodbye. It was probably not such

580
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: a great.

581
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: Record name in the in because it was like having

582
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: goodbye in the title for your first album.

583
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's such a good thing. I

584
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: thought that. But what's the last one? I did songs

585
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: from the.

586
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: Shed, songs from the Shared ten songs and change was

587
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: another one which was ten songs with three and some

588
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: change at the end for four bonus.

589
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: Tracks at the end.

590
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, but there's lots to talk to you

591
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: two about after this.

592
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: We can we can all do all sorts of work together.

593
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 5: Who's influenced you?

594
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: Then?

595
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 5: I mean in the who do you love? Country wise? Now?

596
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 5: Like who's mom day. Yeah, I love Landy Wilson. I

597
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: love what she's about, just her whole you know, she's

598
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 5: very inspiring, very empowering, building up young girls and women.

599
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 5: But I really do love that country pop yeah genre,

600
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 5: So like Casey Musgraves, I'm a huge fan. I'm going

601
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: to go see her in a couple of weeks. Kelsey

602
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: Bellerini was a big influence on me as well because

603
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 5: she sort of does the crossover as well, So that's

604
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 5: very much where I sit. Nice. Yeah, there's also another

605
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: songwriter called cam and she actually wrote on Beyonce's album.

606
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 5: But she Yeah, I saw her at CMC and she

607
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: was one of the big ones that inspired me to

608
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 5: do what I'm doing now.

609
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: So are you ready to possibly be like whoosh, here

610
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: we go all over again, touring the States nine months

611
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: over there?

612
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 7: Are you ready for that?

613
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 5: We'll see, We'll see. I don't know. That's pretty daunting

614
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: to me, but also excited, like I wouldn't be doing otherwise,

615
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: Like yeah, of course, but also this is very much

616
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 5: passion project, so I just part of me just had

617
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 5: to do it, no matter what happens from it. Yeah,

618
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: we'll see if I get the opportunity to travel the

619
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 5: world again like we did with Jeronimo, Like that would

620
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: actually be incredibly difficult and exhausting, but I would of

621
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: course love that opportunity.

622
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: Did you write all the songs on the new record?

623
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 5: Yes, I did, either by myself or collaborated. I wrote

624
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: some of them with George, my brother, because he's just

625
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: a great He's my favorite person to write songs with,

626
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 5: so no matter the genre, like he can he can

627
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: write and so and we work well together. There's no

628
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 5: like walls up sometimes, you know, songwriting can be like

629
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: speed dating. You go into a room with a new person.

630
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, are we going to connect or do

631
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 5: we have the same values? Whereas George obviously there's none

632
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 5: of that. We're just like, okay, cool, let's write this

633
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: today and if nothing comes out, there's no big deal

634
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 5: because we can do it again.

635
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: To Lucky inspired any songs in you had to ask

636
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: the same all all inspires songs in me?

637
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 5: I always say, is this about me?

638
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: And it's just just inspired exactly about.

639
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: Stories? Wined on.

640
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

641
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, there's been quite a few. There's a song

642
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: called a Couple of Gold, which I wrote about Locky,

643
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 5: a song called Home to me, which I wrote.

644
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: About Locky a wedding song.

645
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 5: I wrote a wedding song for us surprised Locky on

646
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: our wedding day. With that, it's called The Reasons Why. Yeah.

647
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: So Lockie is always a big inspiration for me, but

648
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: also sometimes you have to dig into like those past heartbreaks,

649
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: which is like going way back, but yeah, you have

650
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: to tap into some of those emotions sometimes, or even

651
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 5: I get inspiration from friends breakups as well songs about them.

652
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 4: You have to.

653
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 5: Really tap into that motion of how it would feel

654
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 5: to be cheated on about Locky and the stories you

655
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 5: do make some of it up.

656
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 6: Wake up some morning and she's like I had a

657
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 6: dream and you're like, oh, here we go.

658
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: You were a b oh if I had a dollar

659
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: for anyone of those so mean to me.

660
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: Last night we were talking about.

661
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: Have you got any musicality, lock No.

662
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: Not not at all.

663
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 6: I've been learning the guitar, like I love country music,

664
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 6: so I would just like to learn the songs that

665
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: I want to learn.

666
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's as far as it goes.

667
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 6: I just like I think what Amy was saying earlier,

668
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 6: I love learning stuff, and for me because I'm so

669
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 6: regimented in life, Like the music part is where my

670
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 6: brain just shuts down and just has to not try

671
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 6: and analyze everything and just enjoy it for what it is.

672
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 6: So that's why I play it.

673
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: I love it.

674
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 6: But no, you would never see me doing anything or

675
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 6: creating anything from scratch beautiful.

676
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: Well I am.

677
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: I always say this. I can dance to music. That's

678
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: that's my musical ability.

679
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 5: Like I can't dance. I'm a terrible dance Yeah.

680
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'd rather be a singer and being able

681
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: to do that.

682
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Then have people said, don't.

683
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 5: Sing, Alie, don't.

684
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: You both have shared just a completely changed tact for

685
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: a little bit You've you've shared about your IVF journey.

686
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: What what has that experience taught you sort of about

687
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: patience and resilience and and about each.

688
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 5: Other as well. Nothing has tested our patients like trying

689
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 5: to have a baby. Yeah, there's just waiting around every corner,

690
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 5: Like every little step you have to wait at least

691
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 5: two weeks. It's really hard.

692
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

693
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: I went into IVF thinking it's going to be a breeze,

694
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: Like you know, I'm healthy. There's nothing that they can

695
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 5: see that's wrong with us. Like, I just feel like

696
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: it's going to happen really easily for us, and it hasn't.

697
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's it's sucks.

698
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, how long has the journey been so far?

699
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 5: Are there three years? So it's you know, I do

700
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 5: it is a long time. But also you know, I

701
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: have friends who've been struggling with infertility for ten years. Yeah,

702
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: so I do feel you know that it does make

703
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: me anxious. So it hasn't happened right away. But also

704
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: I try and just stay calm and just think, well,

705
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 5: in the grand scheme of things, it's not that long,

706
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 5: you know, I don't. I'm very lucky in that I

707
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 5: even have access to IVF, so I'm trying to stay

708
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: positive about it all. But some days you just crumble

709
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 5: and you just think why me, Like how how did

710
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 5: this happen? How is this our story?

711
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: You know? And not to mention, I know, you know

712
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: we've had friends do the same thing, but you know,

713
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: just to just the roller coaster of the hormones, you know,

714
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: the shots that I mean, like, it's enoughotional toll that

715
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: it takes, but what your physical body is going through

716
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: as well, is that's a lot on the female and

717
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: I know emotionally obviously for you lock it is too,

718
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: but that physical I mean, hormones are they are a beast.

719
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean they can drop you down and lift you

720
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: up like in a blink of an eye.

721
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 5: So it's a lot to go through.

722
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: So Lock, how has your sort of coaching and training

723
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: that you've done, have you sort of really been able

724
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: to apply that to those that challenging situation in this.

725
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely tests, I think to your point, like for

726
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 6: a bloke, it's a completely different experience. So I'm not

727
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 6: the one doing the needles and the hormones and it

728
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 6: doesn't take the toll on my body the same way.

729
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 6: So all I struggle with is my belief is if

730
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 6: it happens, it happens, which it's more so just watching

731
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: when the test comes back negative or the heartbreak on

732
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 6: aim is the stuff that's tough and not being able

733
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 6: to do anything about that, like you feel so helpless

734
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 6: and it's like you can't even say anything, Like there's

735
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 6: nothing I can say that you know, really can put

736
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 6: into words what she's experiencing, because I, once again, I

737
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 6: don't know what that's like. So I think it's definitely

738
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 6: a lot easier. I think it's obviously important to talk

739
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 6: about for men, because men struggle with it in their

740
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 6: own way. Like, I'm sure we want kids just as much.

741
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 6: I want kids just as much. But it's not a

742
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 6: blame game. Like we're in it together, and the challenge

743
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 6: for us was there was no like this is this

744
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 6: is not working well, or this is not working well.

745
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 6: So we don't have a bit of a roadmap on

746
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: what we could improve. It's just like just keep going.

747
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 6: Which look, I'm not mad about to keep going part.

748
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: That's fun.

749
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think from a I guess having the tools,

750
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 6: I definitely am mindful of what I say to Amy,

751
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 6: like because I don't you know, obviously, things can be

752
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 6: interpreted the wrong way, so I try not to say

753
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 6: too much, and I just more so listen.

754
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: I think i'd hope I do that.

755
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: Yeah maybe after that comment, No, I mean, yeah, we're

756
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 5: definitely going through it together. Locke's been at every appointment,

757
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: picking me up from surgery all that stuff. So I

758
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 5: feel very fortunate that I have a partner to do

759
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 5: it with and someone who's there for me. So yeah,

760
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: we're very much in it together. I think I could

761
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: probably I can easily see how it could break couples, sure,

762
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 5: but for us. I feel like it has brought us

763
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 5: closer together. It's one of those rare things that you

764
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 5: go through in life that's to make a break situation,

765
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: and I really do feel like it's made us stronger.

766
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.

767
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 6: I think I'm grateful because a decade ago we made

768
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 6: the decision that we wanted to, you know, if she's touring,

769
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: be able to tour together, if I was doing things,

770
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 6: we'd be able to always do those things together, because

771
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 6: I've seen too many people sort of their careers pull

772
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 6: them apart and they're living essentially separate lives, so when

773
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 6: they go to do things together, there's a lot of

774
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 6: friction in terms of how they can make that possible.

775
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: And because of the decisions we made earlier, I've been

776
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 6: able to go to all the appointments and do those things,

777
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 6: which normally maybe I wouldn't have been able to because

778
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 6: I had to go to work for the day. And

779
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 6: then you don't really know what Amy's going through, like

780
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 6: because when you actually see it, it's different to hearing

781
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 6: about it. Like when you when you're in the room

782
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 6: seeing the stuff that Amy has to go through, you

783
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 6: just like I have a lot more compassion and empathy

784
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 6: compared to if I just heard.

785
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: About it, I wouldn't wouldn't understand it.

786
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 6: So I think seeing all those moments makes you, I

787
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 6: appreciate more of the sacrifice that Amy is making for

788
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 6: what we both want.

789
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, lock in your experience as a coach. Now,

790
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: what would you say to men, men folks who are listening.

791
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: What would your advice be for when the part when

792
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: your partner is going through difficulties, the best way to

793
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: support them? Do you have any sort of like go

794
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: to is there that would that would assist.

795
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: For the IVF?

796
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: Actually anything? Because I was thinking, well, is it just IVF?

797
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 2: Or is it? Is it?

798
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: Is it any kind of is it grief? Is it

799
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: what someone's going through? Like you said when you said before,

800
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't I don't have there's no words for it.

801
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. There's nothing to say

802
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: here right now. So as I think a lot of

803
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: men are fix it, they want to be, and they

804
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: feel helpless when they can't fix it, which I agree

805
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: with that.

806
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: I love being mister fix it.

807
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do I And when I can't, I've struggled.

808
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: So but there are other ways to do it, other

809
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: ways to it being support for me.

810
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 6: It's just trying to I don't want to say this

811
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 6: like I'm a gurul or perfect with this, because I'm

812
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 6: definitely not. But I there's a time to and Amy,

813
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 6: and I learned this when I was in America for

814
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 6: the start of the year with my thing. There's a

815
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 6: time to support and there's a time to lead in

816
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 6: the relationship. And I think it's important to know which

817
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 6: sees you in for where that that works, Like at

818
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 6: the start of the year is well, even now I'm

819
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 6: more so it's my turn to lead, and that means

820
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 6: that I need to make sure that Amy feels safe, secure,

821
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 6: heard valued, and obviously how that happens. You know, every

822
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 6: relationship is different in terms of what that looks like.

823
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 6: But I think good communication is always going to be

824
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 6: the most important thing and not always trying to fix things.

825
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 6: As you've said, It's just like sometimes Amy just wants

826
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 6: to talk and I'm like biting on my nails, being

827
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 6: like I want to fix this. I want to tell

828
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 6: like what's the action plan? But you just got to

829
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 6: bury the hatchet and just let her talk. And I

830
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 6: think if she wants advice, she'll ask for it. And yeah,

831
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 6: we don't always have to fix it, but it's just

832
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 6: coming back to like what does your partner want from you?

833
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: And every relationship is different.

834
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 6: But I know we had this conversation in America where

835
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 6: Amy was just like, at one point didn't feel secure

836
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 6: because We've been on the road for eight months and

837
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 6: I was flying back to Australia to have to do

838
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 6: workshops and then going back to America, like it was

839
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 6: a crazy time.

840
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 4: And when she said that, I'm like, Okay, well I

841
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: have to go back.

842
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 6: To Australia now to go back into the.

843
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: Building security sort of.

844
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 6: Part for our relationship, which then you know, you have

845
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 6: to have conversations around that because you can't have everything

846
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: at once. You've got to sort of build things in

847
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 6: I guess a compounding order to create what you want,

848
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 6: and that was important for us. So I guess advice

849
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 6: for anyone would just be to have that great communication

850
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 6: and if you aren't a great communicator, just start with

851
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 6: hows your day and do that every day and then

852
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 6: you'll eventually start asking different questions because you get sick

853
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 6: of us in the same thing, and then you'll get

854
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 6: a response.

855
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: It's different that you can you know, improve or lean.

856
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 5: Into you're having someone there, even if it's just to

857
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 5: put on a load of washing, because you're just you know,

858
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 5: strung out on hormones, can't you know, you literally don't

859
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 5: have it in you to cook dinner. Like it's really

860
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 5: helpful just have someone not even ask and just like

861
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 5: cook a dinner.

862
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 6: I'm in the office all day currently from AGES, but

863
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 6: when I come home, I don't just expect things to

864
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 6: get done. So we still do everything as a team

865
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 6: around the house. That yeah, Amy will do some loads

866
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 6: of washing, but it's like I'm dishpig, Like I'm the

867
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 6: best dish pig.

868
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: In the on the planet probably I'm really good at that.

869
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 6: And so like if Amy's prepping a meal, it's like

870
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 6: I just go in and start cleaning as we go.

871
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 6: So we have I guess once again, the communication rolls.

872
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 6: Nothing's like expected. We just do it because it's like

873
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 6: if we get that done fast, then we can hang

874
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 6: out earlier, as opposed to me going, oh, Amy can

875
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 6: just do all of that.

876
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 4: I've been in the office all day.

877
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally outside of IBF, outside of the work that

878
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: you're doing. Is there is there a dream for the

879
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: two of you that's just sort of yours that you're

880
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: wanting or working towards.

881
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Speaker 4: That's a great question. I guess it's just be a family.

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00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 5: The family is up the stream that we're working towards.

883
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 5: And having freedom. I think that's always been dream of ours,

884
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 5: is to have financial freedom, to have flexibility in our work,

885
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: to never be to be tied down to an office.

886
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 5: And so that's obviously a constant battle and a constant Yeah,

887
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 5: it's hard work as well, but also comes with a

888
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: lot of sacrifice in its own right. Yeah. So I

889
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: think that's that's the dreams, to have time to build

890
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: the family and to actually want to spend time with

891
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: the family.

892
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, amazing. All right, guys, Well we do a

893
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: thing called the rapid heartbeat.

894
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: So if you can both answer this, both answer the question,

895
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: but as succinctly as you possibly can.

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00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: Oh goodness, there we go. We had a crack at

897
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: this other night.

898
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: If you're life together, this is a good one. Holy right.

899
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 6: This.

900
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 2: If your Life Together was a song title, what would

901
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: it be.

902
00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: A couple of girls.

903
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: That's a really good song.

904
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: It's a banger.

905
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 5: I just went blank. Then the songwriter went blank.

906
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: I that true? All right?

907
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 5: What about this?

908
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: One, one moment in time that you'd like to relive again.

909
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 4: Wedding day, Yeah.

910
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: Wedding day, the whole week, not just the wedding day.

911
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 6: Epic Amy planned the most insane wedding week. For any

912
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 6: blokes out there who aren't married, but you're thinking about

913
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 6: getting married, try and get involved in the process more

914
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 6: because it's just probably like trying to have a kid.

915
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 6: Like watching Amy's face with how excited she was at

916
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 6: the time, I was like, I don't care about any

917
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 6: of that, but now looking back, I'm like, I wish

918
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: I got more involved because it was fun watching Amy

919
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 6: have fun, Like in terms of enjoying that.

920
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: There you go, all right, what is it about your

921
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: partner that you're most grateful for her care?

922
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: For me?

923
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 5: It's his drive and he's always wanting to bet himself.

924
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 5: What the world needs more of is acceptance. I was

925
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 5: gonna say compassion, I think acceptance. Word yeah, nice.

926
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: Describe each other in one.

927
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 4: Word, resilient, inspirational, You guys.

928
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: Beautiful, unreal.

929
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

930
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: Good luck with the record.

931
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you. Are you going to do a vinyl

932
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah. I've just designed it with Emma, my sister,

933
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 5: and it looks amazing.

934
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm going to sign one and I'll

935
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: send it to.

936
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: You guys, please because.

937
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: We will play it.

938
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: Vinyl gets more of a chance of being played in

939
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: our house than anything else else.

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00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 5: Great, Thank you guys.

941
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: Sunday Morning Vinyl Session.

942
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 4: It's the best.

943
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, you two. It was just delightful

944
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: talking to you both.

945
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: You're just such a.

946
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: Cross in such a beautiful way. So thank you so

947
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: much for your time.

948
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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having having us. It's awesome,

949
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 6: and we afford to listening to your albums as well.

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00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 2: They're there.

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00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 6: That'll be our Sunday session Spotify Spotify Sessions