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Speaker 1: Approache Production.

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Speaker 2: Photo record Don't try and make you out comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Season sixteen of The Clink, and we're here back in

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Speaker 1: studio with another fantastic guest today. This wonderful lady is

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Speaker 1: someone very special who's going to bring you so much

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Speaker 1: variety of life. I'm not going to tell you what

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Speaker 1: her last name is or what she is known by,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to introduce her as Carli. And Carly

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Speaker 1: is a lovely lady who is known as an entrepreneur

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Speaker 1: who's definitely walked highs and lows in life and has

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Speaker 1: a fantastic toolbox toolbox of experience to be able to

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Speaker 1: hand out to our listeners today. Carly, welcome to the Clink.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so very much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you a great intro.

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Speaker 1: Do you reckon all? Was it just shit?

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Speaker 3: This toolbox?

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Speaker 1: Well, well yeah, I've got a box.

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Speaker 3: Don't know about the tools.

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Speaker 1: The tools in there are there to inspire others to

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Speaker 1: be the best they can be, and that's what our

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Speaker 1: season is about. This year, we've decided to just switch

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Speaker 1: it up a little and it's been very very good.

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Speaker 1: The guests that we've had today have been phenomenal. And

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Speaker 1: what we try and do is get each of our

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Speaker 1: guests to leave two really important factors in their life

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Speaker 1: that enabled them to be the successful people they are

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Speaker 1: through whatever walks of life that they do. You, my friend,

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Speaker 1: let's just start. You're a director of several companies, have

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Speaker 1: had a bar. You've been heavily in the horse racing

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Speaker 1: industry and the equine yes industry. Yes, so you're no

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Speaker 1: stranger to the punt no love it, the horses, the

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Speaker 1: glitz and glamour.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And there's also you're a lady of the night.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 5: I'm a lady of the mid afternoon, mid afternoon. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: nobody wants to work nights.

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Speaker 1: You what do you reckon? The difference is between mid

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Speaker 1: afternoon and nights and early mornings.

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Speaker 3: How inebriated My client.

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Speaker 1: Is right elaborate.

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Speaker 5: Well, often a guy will think that it's a good

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Speaker 5: idea to book a lady of the night once he's

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Speaker 5: been out on the piss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's a stayer then, and a player, isn't he?

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Speaker 5: And I do not want to see that kind of person.

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Speaker 5: So the person that I'm seeing is fresh from work,

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Speaker 5: or they've got a day off, or they're on their

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Speaker 5: lunch break, and I see them in the afternoon, so

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Speaker 5: they're sober, and I would much rather interact with a

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Speaker 5: sober person than somebody who's coming to me after, you know,

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Speaker 5: putting away twelve beers.

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Speaker 1: Actually quite respect well not quite respect I do respect it,

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Speaker 1: but I quite like the way you put that into

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Speaker 1: perspective because it makes a lot of sense. And why

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Speaker 1: would you want some reeking, stinking alcohol whole breath all

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Speaker 1: around you and on you and bo and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you you know they've got to share and what have

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Speaker 1: you proy obviously, but you know, the ship that comes

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Speaker 1: seeping out of their skin just wouldn't be.

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Speaker 5: Not so, you know, when somebody is in that state

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Speaker 5: of mind, sometimes they're going to do things that they

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Speaker 5: don't usually do, or going to push things that they

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Speaker 5: don't usually do, or behave in a way that's not them.

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Speaker 1: Sober APPROVEM.

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Speaker 5: I don't know this person, I've never met them before,

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Speaker 5: and I don't want to put.

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Speaker 3: Myself in that position.

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Speaker 5: For me, safety, my safety is paramount and more important

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Speaker 5: than the money that I'm potentially going to own. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I am probably shooting myself in the foot and not

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Speaker 5: earning as much money as what I could be if

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Speaker 5: I you know, did work, say midnight on a Saturday night. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but I'm quite happy in what I do and just

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Speaker 1: Well, let's be honest, You've definitely walked a path that

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Speaker 1: has been very, very interesting for our listeners out there.

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Speaker 1: Let's properly introduce you, take them back to a different place,

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Speaker 1: because this hasn't always been your profession. You've been well,

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Speaker 1: you are quite the professional lady in other areas, highly

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Speaker 1: intelligent and have been successful in many business ventures. And

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Speaker 1: you know, the podcast that we're doing at the moment

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Speaker 1: in this season, as I said, is about enabling people

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Speaker 1: to have self belief, no matter what walk of life

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Speaker 1: that they come from, what they're doing, and to be

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Speaker 1: able to follow their dreams and have the tools to

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Speaker 1: do that. You know, in a series of ten we're

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Speaker 1: looking at two really important factors in each of our

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Speaker 1: of those tools out of that toolbox and bring it

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Speaker 1: into their life and actually take positive steps. Let's hear

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Speaker 1: about you and where it began.

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Speaker 5: So for me, the biggest thing for me, I guess

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Speaker 5: was the feeling that I was never going to to anything.

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Speaker 5: I being an undiagnosed ADHD woman.

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Speaker 1: I only got digs when you're routeene or.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so far so okay, so we're so let's take

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Speaker 5: it not right far, not are We're going to play

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Speaker 5: like chime music, like look, it's not that far back,

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Speaker 5: you know, five years young.

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Speaker 1: Actually said to me, you don't look a day over

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Speaker 1: forty nine. No.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so look back in my back in my teen

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Speaker 5: years on the Gold Coast, undiagnosed ADHD, you know, troubles

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Speaker 5: at home, really not having a good time, and decided

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Speaker 5: to leave school, not fully comprehending or understanding what that

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Speaker 5: actually meant for my future. So, yeah, I was out

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Speaker 5: on my own fifteen years old, normal school. I was

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Speaker 5: working two jobs, you know, pretty much just stopped being

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Speaker 5: a kid instantly.

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Speaker 3: I was an adult.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen You are working two jobs. Yeah, that right. There

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Speaker 1: is a great setup in that path of success for

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Speaker 1: the future, which obviously now you can look back on

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Speaker 1: and maybe start to put things together and go, well,

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Speaker 1: this is why I am where I am today because

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Speaker 1: of those morals in the way that I did choose

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Speaker 1: to live my life as opposed to most fifteen year olds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I really give everything one hundred percent and I

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Speaker 5: am a bit of a workaholic, so me I loved.

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Speaker 5: I came from a very strict family where I hadn't

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Speaker 5: really been given any freedom or any room to do

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Speaker 5: anything on my own. So no longer being at home

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Speaker 5: and getting myself two jobs. I would finish one job

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Speaker 5: during the day in retail, and then I'd jump on

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Speaker 5: my scooter and head down to MACS and work Macs

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Speaker 5: at night. And you know, I loved it, like I

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Speaker 5: loved meeting people, being around everyone, earning my own money.

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Speaker 5: I had so much freedom, and I honestly really loved it.

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Speaker 5: I hadn't even started drinking or anything yet, Like I

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Speaker 5: didn't even explore drinking for years after moving out of home.

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Speaker 5: I was just so determined to be able to have

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Speaker 1: You have many? Sort of And I put this pretty

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Speaker 1: openly because I mean, everyone assumes they have friends or

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Speaker 1: peer groups, but that to me sounds like a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a lonely path, because I couldn't imagine too

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Speaker 1: many people, especially young women on the Gold Coast fifteen

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Speaker 1: it wasn't easy for males that alone females.

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Speaker 3: I honestly didn't have anyone working two jobs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it tells me there wasn't a lot of social

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Speaker 5: No, I didn't have any friends, I didn't have any family.

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Speaker 5: I was completely on my own for years years.

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Speaker 3: It was actually really tough.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I did do was I

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Speaker 5: would have to just lie to people and say that

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Speaker 5: I was eighteen years old, just because nobody wanted to

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Speaker 5: interact or you know, spend time with or hear from

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Speaker 5: a fifteen year old a child.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: So when I moved into you know, I found accommodation,

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Speaker 5: a guy renting out of bedroom, and I told him

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Speaker 5: that I was eighteen, and you know, paid my money,

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Speaker 5: moved in. Little did he know that I was only

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Speaker 5: fifteen years old. I couldn't even open a bank account.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't even you know, I couldn't sign any legal documents.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: That's quite smart though, in hindsight, when you think about that,

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Speaker 1: because you know, you did say a male. So a

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Speaker 1: a home not real cool. No, I don't care who

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Speaker 1: But there's morals and there's certain things that we know

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Speaker 1: you probably did yourself a favor by saying I'm eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and naturally, you know you're a mature person than you're

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Speaker 5: I think it was actually coming up to my sixteenth birthday,

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Speaker 5: that I was turning nineteen, and he was like, okay, well,

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Speaker 5: let's like let's go for the clubs, like come on,

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Speaker 5: we'll do something like we'll go out. And I had

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Speaker 5: and the color just went from his face and he

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Speaker 5: just did not know what to do, had no idea

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Speaker 5: what to do, whether he should kick me out. But

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Speaker 5: then at the same time, he just didn't want to

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Speaker 5: know that's right, And so I got emancipated in the

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Speaker 5: eyes of the law. So I you know, I needed

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Speaker 5: some form of legal guardian too. I needed to open

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Speaker 5: wasn't tied to any family members, and I couldn't do that.

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Speaker 5: I needed a legal guardian and I didn't have one,

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Speaker 5: and so I had to ask my flatmate to become

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Speaker 5: my legal guardian.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I asked how high much older he was?

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Speaker 5: So at the time when I moved in, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Thirty, So really he was quite older than what you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, he needed to be around a

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Speaker 3: Old, Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: Did he take that as more an honorable thing, as

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Speaker 1: a big brother sort of respectful thing, or did that

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Speaker 1: sort of then get a little bit sort of uncomfortable. No.

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Speaker 5: And I'm actually I'm one of these people who throughout

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Speaker 5: my life, I've had these people come into my life

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Speaker 5: and they've just been put there for a reason. I

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Speaker 5: could have moved into anyone's house. I could have really

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Speaker 5: experienced some awful, awful people who took advantage of my

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Speaker 5: had no voice back then, like I was just an

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Speaker 5: inexperienced child. Yeah, and I'm just so lucky that this

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Speaker 5: angel came along and just became my legal guardian and

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Speaker 5: still to this day, I call him my brother and

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Speaker 5: we interact and we talk and he is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And you're not a day out of forty five, are you?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: I had to try and get that back in a

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Speaker 1: day of twenty five. Thank you. You're quite out natural.

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Speaker 1: I've got to give you that. You know, for a

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Speaker 1: There's more to the clink that meets the eye. There's

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Speaker 5: It's like, well, people say to me all the time,

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Speaker 5: And there's that really archaic notion that you just end

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Speaker 5: I think it was at the time, still not fully

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Speaker 5: my childhood, I was never given the tools to be

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00:23:54,281 --> 00:24:00,521
Speaker 5: comfortable being myself or enjoy being myself. And so, you know,

441
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,321
Speaker 5: I I was working two jobs at the time. I

442
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 5: was working at corporate job, working I don't know, between

443
00:24:07,481 --> 00:24:10,801
Speaker 5: forty and sixty hours a week, and then hospitality at

444
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 5: night just to try and make ends meet. And you know,

445
00:24:14,241 --> 00:24:17,161
Speaker 5: working eighty hours a week, tired all the time, miserable

446
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,441
Speaker 5: all the time, and I just thought, well, I love

447
00:24:21,481 --> 00:24:24,321
Speaker 5: having sex, and wouldn't it be so good if I

448
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 5: could get paid for it? And so then I'm having

449
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 5: sex for fun, but I'm also making really good money

450
00:24:30,681 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 5: and that for me. You know, everyone around me or

451
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,441
Speaker 5: my friends, anybody that I kind of brought it up with,

452
00:24:35,521 --> 00:24:36,161
Speaker 5: of course.

453
00:24:35,961 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 3: Everybody is like, Cullie, that's a fucking terrible idea. Don't

454
00:24:39,721 --> 00:24:40,521
Speaker 3: do that.

455
00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 5: That's weird, and you don't want to go down that path.

456
00:24:43,681 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 5: That's scummy and sleazy and gross. And I got to

457
00:24:48,281 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 5: a point where I was just like, I have to

458
00:24:49,721 --> 00:24:50,601
Speaker 5: live authentically.

459
00:24:50,681 --> 00:24:53,281
Speaker 3: I have to do what I want to do.

460
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Speaker 5: And as soon as I made that decision, and as

461
00:24:55,801 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 5: soon as I started living authentically and doing what I

462
00:24:58,561 --> 00:25:01,521
Speaker 5: wanted to do, holy shit, my whole life turned around.

463
00:25:01,561 --> 00:25:04,201
Speaker 5: I blossomed me as an individual.

464
00:25:04,521 --> 00:25:05,241
Speaker 3: I became.

465
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Speaker 1: The way you talk. And I'm just going to be

466
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Speaker 1: straight out with you. You would never I mean, yes,

467
00:25:12,961 --> 00:25:15,761
Speaker 1: you could walk down the street okay, and you know

468
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: you present very class. You've got some tattoos, which is

469
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: not over the top.

470
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Speaker 4: It's not.

471
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that women look to but there's

472
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Speaker 1: something over the top, and guys, it just doesn't look

473
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've come carve it, but you know, you

474
00:25:31,041 --> 00:25:32,401
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you know what I mean.

475
00:25:32,481 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: So I guess in that respect, you could still be

476
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Speaker 1: that timid, walk past shy lady and no one would

477
00:25:39,681 --> 00:25:42,721
Speaker 1: ever know a thing about who you are, just be

478
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,801
Speaker 1: playing Jane. And that's my point earlier in the conversation,

479
00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:49,681
Speaker 1: you know, like about presenting, you don't present as that

480
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,001
Speaker 1: sort of and I'm yes, I'm and a cop flak

481
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,361
Speaker 1: for it.

482
00:25:52,321 --> 00:25:56,721
Speaker 5: But fucking saying that whole image, I understand what you're saying.

483
00:25:56,801 --> 00:25:58,681
Speaker 1: So do I call it the Dole look or whatever

484
00:25:58,721 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: it is? And I don't get down on me about it,

485
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,801
Speaker 1: but I want to talk about it because you're a

486
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: woman and you can talk about this and explain because

487
00:26:05,441 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: I can't. As a man. It can be seen that

488
00:26:07,241 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm chauvinistic, or I'm wrong, or I'm harry and I'm

489
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: a pig whatever. But there's a few things there, like

490
00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:17,961
Speaker 1: you know, just in my life, well, really, where's that

491
00:26:18,001 --> 00:26:20,961
Speaker 1: old there's that old school sort of chick.

492
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Speaker 5: Yes, look, I have been through those moments because I

493
00:26:26,481 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 5: have thought that I need to get my worth from

494
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,841
Speaker 5: portraying a certain image or to have people look at

495
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,921
Speaker 5: me and be like, oh whoa like, oh shit, look

496
00:26:37,921 --> 00:26:40,321
Speaker 5: at her tits like her tits around or her lips

497
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:41,041
Speaker 5: are too big.

498
00:26:40,921 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Or whatever like.

499
00:26:42,961 --> 00:26:47,721
Speaker 5: And I've come to learn in my self worth and

500
00:26:47,801 --> 00:26:52,001
Speaker 5: in my now having a better understanding of myself and

501
00:26:52,041 --> 00:26:56,801
Speaker 5: more confidence is I don't need those things for.

502
00:26:56,801 --> 00:27:00,401
Speaker 3: What I bring to the table and what I present exactly.

503
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 5: So look, it has been a bit of a learning

504
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,281
Speaker 5: curve for me, and I feel like I have come

505
00:27:05,281 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 5: out the other side. You know, everything's a little bit

506
00:27:08,961 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 5: smaller now. I've had less work done. Things are aging

507
00:27:11,921 --> 00:27:13,561
Speaker 5: a lot more naturally now.

508
00:27:13,481 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: Than what they used to do. I'm actually surprised you

509
00:27:15,681 --> 00:27:20,921
Speaker 1: say less. You wouldn't like you don't. Once again, don't

510
00:27:21,001 --> 00:27:23,041
Speaker 1: hit me over the head, but these are the facts,

511
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,321
Speaker 1: you know, Like there's so much obsession about our image

512
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:32,201
Speaker 1: these days. And don't get me wrong, I'm not here

513
00:27:32,241 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: to pick sides. Were all where I mean, like I said,

514
00:27:34,561 --> 00:27:36,241
Speaker 1: I don't get botox. We're not going to afford. But

515
00:27:36,241 --> 00:27:38,761
Speaker 1: I'm forty eight years of age now, and yeah, and

516
00:27:38,801 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: if I want to have a few, you know, pricks

517
00:27:41,481 --> 00:27:42,921
Speaker 1: in the forehead, then I'm going to pop a bit

518
00:27:42,921 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: of a prick in the forest.

519
00:27:44,001 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 3: Yes, but we all some pricks in the forehead.

520
00:27:51,001 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: I've been a prick. I don't know, a cop and

521
00:27:52,681 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: a prick in the finder, but you know what I mean. Like,

522
00:27:55,521 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: so we all and I'm all for self care. I

523
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: think it's very important that we do take pride and

524
00:28:00,761 --> 00:28:04,601
Speaker 1: care in ourselves and especially as we get older, because

525
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,841
Speaker 1: you know, that's life. We do age. It is inevitable.

526
00:28:07,921 --> 00:28:10,721
Speaker 3: It is a little bit of a fine line because.

527
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,641
Speaker 5: You know, they book me for the way that I look,

528
00:28:14,721 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 5: but then they come back for who I am as

529
00:28:17,681 --> 00:28:19,801
Speaker 5: a person. I say usually my jokes, they come back

530
00:28:19,801 --> 00:28:21,161
Speaker 5: from my jokes, but it's.

531
00:28:21,521 --> 00:28:24,521
Speaker 1: Present as like, for example, what do you call it

532
00:28:24,561 --> 00:28:28,281
Speaker 1: your profile picture? Is it one of those profile pictures

533
00:28:28,281 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: that you know, like you're quite dulled up and that

534
00:28:30,921 --> 00:28:32,081
Speaker 1: or is it just more you.

535
00:28:32,001 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: Can see natural picture.

536
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:38,601
Speaker 5: It is a proper, you know, photo shoot that I've had.

537
00:28:39,321 --> 00:28:43,281
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a very sexy red dress and you

538
00:28:43,321 --> 00:28:43,961
Speaker 5: know everything.

539
00:28:44,041 --> 00:28:45,801
Speaker 3: It looks very good.

540
00:28:46,201 --> 00:28:51,001
Speaker 5: The only thing is that that photo shoot wasn't edited,

541
00:28:51,281 --> 00:28:53,761
Speaker 5: So that at least is one of my claim to

542
00:28:54,601 --> 00:28:56,841
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm very proud of myself that it

543
00:28:56,881 --> 00:29:00,521
Speaker 5: wasn't a highly edited photo shoot. But oh it wasn't

544
00:29:00,601 --> 00:29:03,441
Speaker 5: edited at all. They're the raw photos that I was sent.

545
00:29:03,601 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 5: So yeah, look, I know that the way that I

546
00:29:07,801 --> 00:29:11,681
Speaker 5: look is what gets them in. But I'm trying to

547
00:29:11,721 --> 00:29:14,321
Speaker 5: be more authentically myself without doing too much.

548
00:29:14,361 --> 00:29:15,801
Speaker 3: That just makes me feel better.

549
00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:20,841
Speaker 5: Look, if somebody else needs to go over the top

550
00:29:20,881 --> 00:29:24,121
Speaker 5: with whatever and get whatever done to make themselves feel better,

551
00:29:24,521 --> 00:29:28,361
Speaker 5: I think that it does if they can do some

552
00:29:28,561 --> 00:29:30,481
Speaker 5: of the work that it does get to a point

553
00:29:30,481 --> 00:29:32,321
Speaker 5: where they can be like, do you know what, I

554
00:29:32,401 --> 00:29:35,041
Speaker 5: don't have to do that. And you know, things don't

555
00:29:35,081 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 5: stay that way forever. If they have gigantic lips like

556
00:29:37,481 --> 00:29:39,361
Speaker 5: in a few years or you know, they may decide

557
00:29:39,401 --> 00:29:40,361
Speaker 5: next week to get.

558
00:29:40,161 --> 00:29:43,361
Speaker 3: Them dissolved and not do that anymore. That's totally fine.

559
00:29:43,401 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to take back a little bit

560
00:29:47,321 --> 00:29:50,321
Speaker 1: as well into you know, we talked about the racing industry.

561
00:29:50,361 --> 00:29:55,921
Speaker 1: You definitely had a really good connection. Many people wouldn't

562
00:29:55,961 --> 00:29:58,881
Speaker 1: know that share a little bit about that journey.

563
00:30:01,001 --> 00:30:03,401
Speaker 3: I absolutely love the horse racing industry.

564
00:30:03,681 --> 00:30:05,521
Speaker 1: It's something do you ride horses?

565
00:30:06,241 --> 00:30:08,961
Speaker 5: No, No, I ride jockeys.

566
00:30:09,001 --> 00:30:09,881
Speaker 3: Does that count?

567
00:30:13,241 --> 00:30:16,081
Speaker 1: I don't know. Actually, I mean that that's a fetish

568
00:30:16,121 --> 00:30:20,041
Speaker 1: isn't as like fucking midgets. I mean, and I hate

569
00:30:20,081 --> 00:30:21,961
Speaker 1: all the jockeys out there. I know a few of them,

570
00:30:22,001 --> 00:30:24,641
Speaker 1: and may Is they're all legends.

571
00:30:24,721 --> 00:30:26,841
Speaker 3: They're very fit, very randy men.

572
00:30:26,921 --> 00:30:29,321
Speaker 1: But there's not much of them well, I mean, I

573
00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: don't know what's sort of evolve them the waist. But

574
00:30:32,521 --> 00:30:34,641
Speaker 1: when you look at some because they spend so much

575
00:30:34,681 --> 00:30:37,801
Speaker 1: time obviously you know, at a certain weight, saunas.

576
00:30:37,321 --> 00:30:40,121
Speaker 5: And oh yeah, and they're you know, they're training, they're

577
00:30:40,121 --> 00:30:42,401
Speaker 5: in the gym every day, they're working like they're riding

578
00:30:42,921 --> 00:30:46,761
Speaker 5: every days. Them to take a you know, a couple

579
00:30:46,841 --> 00:30:49,001
Speaker 5: of days off, they don't, they don't do that. And

580
00:30:49,121 --> 00:30:52,081
Speaker 5: so they're here, there and everywhere. They're going to numerous

581
00:30:52,121 --> 00:30:56,321
Speaker 5: tracks all around the country. Yeah, it's it's pretty intense

582
00:30:56,361 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 5: life for them. The thing that's not known outside of

583
00:30:59,441 --> 00:31:02,121
Speaker 5: the horse racing industry is how famous they are.

584
00:31:03,001 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: I mean by that, well, it's not so I think

585
00:31:05,241 --> 00:31:05,961
Speaker 3: that I realized.

586
00:31:06,001 --> 00:31:08,121
Speaker 5: So I kind of had an idea about the horse

587
00:31:08,161 --> 00:31:11,201
Speaker 5: racing industry, didn't really know any jockeys, didn't know anything

588
00:31:11,881 --> 00:31:14,601
Speaker 5: much about them whatsoever. It's not until you're inside of

589
00:31:14,641 --> 00:31:19,681
Speaker 5: the horse racing industry that they are like superstars.

590
00:31:19,961 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: They are for you.

591
00:31:21,241 --> 00:31:25,081
Speaker 1: Were you in your new profession at this stage whilst

592
00:31:25,121 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: working in and around.

593
00:31:26,921 --> 00:31:30,681
Speaker 3: The kind of came hand in hand because.

594
00:31:32,041 --> 00:31:34,801
Speaker 5: When I came into the horse when I came into

595
00:31:34,841 --> 00:31:38,401
Speaker 5: the sex industry, I didn't have any money. You know,

596
00:31:38,561 --> 00:31:40,921
Speaker 5: I maybe put a couple of bucks on sports, but

597
00:31:41,881 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 5: nothing great. But it wasn't until sex work that I

598
00:31:47,801 --> 00:31:51,121
Speaker 5: actually had more cash that I was then able to,

599
00:31:51,961 --> 00:31:55,681
Speaker 5: you know, really delve into the horse racing industry and buy.

600
00:31:55,521 --> 00:31:58,841
Speaker 1: From an ownership point of view, because I couldn't put you,

601
00:31:58,921 --> 00:31:59,521
Speaker 1: but you did.

602
00:31:59,561 --> 00:32:05,481
Speaker 5: You. I do form, so I'm right study it, yeah, yeah,

603
00:32:05,521 --> 00:32:07,041
Speaker 5: and I absolutely love it.

604
00:32:07,241 --> 00:32:09,761
Speaker 1: I love it even now. You're still in touch with

605
00:32:10,081 --> 00:32:16,081
Speaker 1: the industries massively. That really interests me because you know,

606
00:32:16,161 --> 00:32:18,401
Speaker 1: I've been less than a couple of people in the

607
00:32:18,441 --> 00:32:21,481
Speaker 1: industry and what I've seen them both high end book

608
00:32:21,681 --> 00:32:27,321
Speaker 1: book bookies if you will, and also owners and trainers,

609
00:32:27,521 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: and the involvement is just full on. Like I've got

610
00:32:33,041 --> 00:32:36,081
Speaker 1: to mate, big shout out buiser. I've got a mate

611
00:32:36,081 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: out there that has own a Magic Millions two time winner,

612
00:32:40,961 --> 00:32:43,921
Speaker 1: Lucky Hustler and they had Big Duke in the Melbourne

613
00:32:43,921 --> 00:32:48,401
Speaker 1: Cup and a couple other horses as well. But he

614
00:32:48,601 --> 00:32:51,681
Speaker 1: would literally have a bible what I call the Bible

615
00:32:51,721 --> 00:32:55,361
Speaker 1: of racing with him at all times, and he's an encyclopedia.

616
00:32:55,481 --> 00:32:57,721
Speaker 1: He would go to the millions, he'd go to the sales,

617
00:32:58,361 --> 00:33:00,401
Speaker 1: go to the sales, and it just blew me away

618
00:33:00,481 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: because it's a different language, it's a completely different world.

619
00:33:04,521 --> 00:33:07,961
Speaker 1: And if you're not And I love him dearly, he's

620
00:33:08,001 --> 00:33:10,321
Speaker 1: one of my best mates, not that I have many,

621
00:33:10,641 --> 00:33:14,241
Speaker 1: but I want to say this, but I hate going

622
00:33:14,241 --> 00:33:17,081
Speaker 1: to the fucking pub with him because it's generally on

623
00:33:17,121 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: a Saturday. It's his time out. And the thing is

624
00:33:21,481 --> 00:33:24,081
Speaker 1: his focus is what he knows best, and that he's

625
00:33:24,161 --> 00:33:26,921
Speaker 1: laying his bet, sitting back and watching the racing and

626
00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:29,201
Speaker 1: then the chitter chatter around the table is for those

627
00:33:29,241 --> 00:33:31,961
Speaker 1: that understand, I don't understand.

628
00:33:32,121 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: That's me.

629
00:33:32,761 --> 00:33:37,161
Speaker 1: That's my point, you know. And I'd be like one

630
00:33:37,201 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: point twenty pints, thirty points and I'm like sitting there

631
00:33:40,281 --> 00:33:41,881
Speaker 1: just going, yeah, I'm fucking ready to go home now,

632
00:33:41,921 --> 00:33:43,961
Speaker 1: because I love my guinness, so I just if I'm

633
00:33:43,961 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: going to drink beer, I just drink pints a guinness.

634
00:33:46,001 --> 00:33:48,321
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty up on a few of the Skooy boys,

635
00:33:48,361 --> 00:33:51,361
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I still can't pick

636
00:33:51,481 --> 00:33:54,081
Speaker 1: up on what they're talking about, whether I'm sober or not.

637
00:33:55,921 --> 00:33:58,201
Speaker 1: Occasionally I'll hit him up for a tip, but I'm

638
00:33:58,241 --> 00:34:01,121
Speaker 1: not a better because I hate losing, and I think

639
00:34:01,601 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: I work too hard to be able to see that

640
00:34:03,321 --> 00:34:06,201
Speaker 1: money go to waste. Well, that's good for those though

641
00:34:06,241 --> 00:34:10,281
Speaker 1: that are leaving it. Let's hear a bit about that.

642
00:34:10,361 --> 00:34:12,401
Speaker 3: It feels like a full time it feels like a

643
00:34:12,441 --> 00:34:14,241
Speaker 3: full time passion.

644
00:34:14,601 --> 00:34:16,121
Speaker 1: That's my point of viewing thought for me.

645
00:34:16,641 --> 00:34:19,921
Speaker 5: So I think because I moved out of home so young,

646
00:34:20,081 --> 00:34:21,801
Speaker 5: and I just worked and worked and worked and worked.

647
00:34:21,881 --> 00:34:25,161
Speaker 5: I'd never had any hobbies or interests. I'd go out,

648
00:34:25,361 --> 00:34:27,961
Speaker 5: I'd party as a party girl for a while. Like

649
00:34:28,841 --> 00:34:30,721
Speaker 5: I had no hobbies or interests of my own.

650
00:34:30,801 --> 00:34:31,081
Speaker 3: Nothing.

651
00:34:31,201 --> 00:34:33,921
Speaker 5: There was no substance to me whatsoever. People would be like, so,

652
00:34:33,961 --> 00:34:36,881
Speaker 5: what do you like doing, and I'd be like, drinking,

653
00:34:39,081 --> 00:34:43,761
Speaker 5: going out. They're not hobbies or interests. And it's only

654
00:34:44,241 --> 00:34:50,801
Speaker 5: just been in the last maybe seven years that I really.

655
00:34:50,961 --> 00:34:52,441
Speaker 3: Got into the horse racing industry.

656
00:34:52,481 --> 00:34:55,681
Speaker 5: Started watching you know, just sky racing on a Saturday,

657
00:34:55,721 --> 00:34:59,681
Speaker 5: and you know, Hong Kong races on a Wednesday night

658
00:34:59,721 --> 00:35:03,641
Speaker 5: at midnight, like just started getting into it, started doing

659
00:35:03,761 --> 00:35:07,321
Speaker 5: form as best as I call, joining other punting groups

660
00:35:07,361 --> 00:35:10,081
Speaker 5: where I was always the only female.

661
00:35:10,401 --> 00:35:13,121
Speaker 1: So it was all like a progression. It was little

662
00:35:13,121 --> 00:35:15,041
Speaker 1: steps into something great.

663
00:35:14,641 --> 00:35:17,761
Speaker 5: Each time, learning, asking so many questions, connecting with so

664
00:35:17,801 --> 00:35:18,641
Speaker 5: many other people in.

665
00:35:18,601 --> 00:35:21,521
Speaker 3: The industry, and yeah, just finding my feet.

666
00:35:21,641 --> 00:35:23,721
Speaker 5: And you know, it got to the point that within

667
00:35:23,761 --> 00:35:26,481
Speaker 5: the last eight last five years, I think I've owned

668
00:35:26,481 --> 00:35:27,521
Speaker 5: eight horses.

669
00:35:28,401 --> 00:35:30,401
Speaker 3: I've got three at the moment, and.

670
00:35:31,241 --> 00:35:32,401
Speaker 1: They do all right, they're okay.

671
00:35:32,601 --> 00:35:35,081
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got one that's at least paid than now

672
00:35:35,241 --> 00:35:37,281
Speaker 5: about our pod shape managers horses.

673
00:35:38,241 --> 00:35:43,041
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look, j are still waiting for that fucking

674
00:35:43,041 --> 00:35:44,521
Speaker 1: one time I went off your bets.

675
00:35:44,561 --> 00:35:47,361
Speaker 5: But anyway, or don't worry, I did that today on

676
00:35:47,401 --> 00:35:49,841
Speaker 5: the weekend. Anyway, he didn't win from any of my

677
00:35:49,881 --> 00:35:52,841
Speaker 5: bets because yeah, hard to shocker or whatever.

678
00:35:52,961 --> 00:35:56,201
Speaker 1: But that's the part of it, isn't it. That's gambling

679
00:35:56,281 --> 00:35:59,001
Speaker 1: and gamble responsibly. And for those out there too, I mean,

680
00:35:59,001 --> 00:36:02,281
Speaker 1: this is not about suggesting go out and gamble at all,

681
00:36:02,321 --> 00:36:05,681
Speaker 1: because that's not what we're about. But this is Carly's

682
00:36:05,721 --> 00:36:07,961
Speaker 1: life and this is something that's really important that we

683
00:36:08,041 --> 00:36:10,721
Speaker 1: share these because it is a massive part of your

684
00:36:10,801 --> 00:36:13,961
Speaker 1: journey and where you are and the success of you

685
00:36:14,001 --> 00:36:15,361
Speaker 1: know who you are I am.

686
00:36:15,441 --> 00:36:19,761
Speaker 5: I'm actually very vocal online about the fact that you.

687
00:36:19,641 --> 00:36:21,601
Speaker 3: Can be involved in.

688
00:36:23,041 --> 00:36:28,201
Speaker 5: The horse, the horses and the races without laying stupid money.

689
00:36:29,281 --> 00:36:31,841
Speaker 5: I'm in it, and I put a bet on for

690
00:36:31,881 --> 00:36:36,001
Speaker 5: the win, not for the money, And so there are

691
00:36:36,001 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: people I know who will on a Saturday out lay

692
00:36:38,681 --> 00:36:43,121
Speaker 5: fifty k on races to try and claw even some

693
00:36:43,241 --> 00:36:45,001
Speaker 5: of that back or to make a little bit more.

694
00:36:45,601 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 5: That to me is just just absolutely blows my mind

695
00:36:49,001 --> 00:36:51,121
Speaker 5: and not something that I can even wrap my head around.

696
00:36:52,681 --> 00:36:54,881
Speaker 5: But I still get involved, and there are days where

697
00:36:55,001 --> 00:36:58,201
Speaker 5: I definitely want to have a punt and I want

698
00:36:58,241 --> 00:36:59,961
Speaker 5: to watch the races and be a part of it

699
00:37:00,161 --> 00:37:01,961
Speaker 5: and see my horse win that I've picked.

700
00:37:02,481 --> 00:37:04,761
Speaker 3: But I'll put it like a dollar on you don't

701
00:37:04,841 --> 00:37:07,721
Speaker 3: have when I promote this quite a lot. You don't have.

702
00:37:07,641 --> 00:37:11,641
Speaker 5: To be spending all of your money or spending money

703
00:37:11,641 --> 00:37:14,241
Speaker 5: that you don't have, or doing silly things to try

704
00:37:14,281 --> 00:37:17,961
Speaker 5: and make money. Trying to make money on horse racing

705
00:37:18,161 --> 00:37:23,041
Speaker 5: is really hard, especially if you don't know the tracks

706
00:37:23,081 --> 00:37:27,361
Speaker 5: the trainers, the jockeys, the conditions, anything like that, if

707
00:37:27,361 --> 00:37:29,401
Speaker 5: you don't have all of that information, where you're just

708
00:37:29,601 --> 00:37:30,881
Speaker 5: throwing a dart in the dark.

709
00:37:31,441 --> 00:37:34,041
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit like life, though, isn't it.

710
00:37:34,081 --> 00:37:36,681
Speaker 1: And when you put it like that, you know, once

711
00:37:36,721 --> 00:37:40,041
Speaker 1: again relating back to the purpose of season sixteen, here

712
00:37:40,121 --> 00:37:43,001
Speaker 1: on the Clint, a lot of us feel like we're

713
00:37:43,041 --> 00:37:45,321
Speaker 1: just throwing darts in the dark because we don't have

714
00:37:45,361 --> 00:37:48,521
Speaker 1: any of the guidance or the tools of the information

715
00:37:49,361 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: to be able to fulfill. And there are so many

716
00:37:52,961 --> 00:37:56,721
Speaker 1: people out there who have the most amazing thoughts, dreams,

717
00:37:56,841 --> 00:38:00,601
Speaker 1: visions that go to waste because they just feel that

718
00:38:00,601 --> 00:38:03,601
Speaker 1: they're going to go nowhere with it and fall wayward.

719
00:38:04,121 --> 00:38:12,961
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's see, I've accomplished a lott.

720
00:38:11,081 --> 00:38:13,001
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted you want to me today because

721
00:38:13,041 --> 00:38:16,441
Speaker 1: of you know, like, yes, this is this great side

722
00:38:16,561 --> 00:38:19,521
Speaker 1: that everybody's going to be curious and interested about. But

723
00:38:19,561 --> 00:38:22,241
Speaker 1: for me, there's a business woman, there's a successful woman,

724
00:38:22,281 --> 00:38:24,721
Speaker 1: and someone that hasn't done it easy and has done

725
00:38:24,721 --> 00:38:27,081
Speaker 1: it off her own bat and I really expect.

726
00:38:26,761 --> 00:38:31,201
Speaker 5: That the thing is, and I do say this to

727
00:38:31,241 --> 00:38:35,001
Speaker 5: people all of the time, is well, This is actually

728
00:38:35,241 --> 00:38:38,841
Speaker 5: things that I hear people say to me. Now, I've

729
00:38:38,881 --> 00:38:43,921
Speaker 5: come from nothing, I've never had anything, and I've always

730
00:38:44,041 --> 00:38:46,841
Speaker 5: just well, I want to do this, and so then

731
00:38:46,881 --> 00:38:52,201
Speaker 5: I make it happen. And it's not easy. Some would

732
00:38:52,201 --> 00:38:55,521
Speaker 5: say that it's downright stupid. But I have people say

733
00:38:55,561 --> 00:38:58,801
Speaker 5: to me often, I've got this really amazing idea for

734
00:38:59,081 --> 00:39:03,001
Speaker 5: this business that I want to start, and I just

735
00:39:04,481 --> 00:39:06,601
Speaker 5: I need to do it when I'm not working so much,

736
00:39:06,641 --> 00:39:09,561
Speaker 5: and you know, I've got too much responsibility with.

737
00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:11,721
Speaker 3: The kids at the moment and I can't get this started.

738
00:39:11,801 --> 00:39:14,881
Speaker 5: And oh I should wait until this happens and then

739
00:39:14,921 --> 00:39:17,281
Speaker 5: I'll maybe start it. Like and then they'll say, how

740
00:39:17,281 --> 00:39:20,601
Speaker 5: did you start this? And I'm like, I just went

741
00:39:20,721 --> 00:39:21,281
Speaker 5: and did.

742
00:39:21,121 --> 00:39:24,881
Speaker 1: It, no excuses, No, you just got to go in.

743
00:39:25,081 --> 00:39:27,601
Speaker 5: No, I'll do it next year when things are better.

744
00:39:27,761 --> 00:39:30,881
Speaker 5: Oh I need to get this behind me. Oh I

745
00:39:30,921 --> 00:39:34,241
Speaker 5: need to, you know, save up six figures to try

746
00:39:34,281 --> 00:39:39,401
Speaker 5: and like start this business. No, don't do that, because

747
00:39:39,441 --> 00:39:41,681
Speaker 5: you will never get there. I think it's the same as.

748
00:39:41,241 --> 00:39:44,521
Speaker 1: A procrastination that continual.

749
00:39:44,761 --> 00:39:47,761
Speaker 5: Well, maybe I think it's just playing it safe, and

750
00:39:47,841 --> 00:39:50,961
Speaker 5: it's it's telling yourself, oh, there's going to be a

751
00:39:51,001 --> 00:39:55,561
Speaker 5: better time than now, when the best time is now.

752
00:39:55,681 --> 00:39:58,241
Speaker 5: Otherwise you're going to get to a point where you're

753
00:39:58,281 --> 00:40:00,241
Speaker 5: going to look back on your life and be like, shit,

754
00:40:00,401 --> 00:40:03,361
Speaker 5: I should have started that, then, I should have done

755
00:40:03,441 --> 00:40:06,641
Speaker 5: that then, or I should have done this, this, this

756
00:40:06,681 --> 00:40:09,601
Speaker 5: is this, Like you, I always have those kind of thoughts,

757
00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:13,001
Speaker 5: and I have managed to just.

758
00:40:15,201 --> 00:40:16,041
Speaker 3: Start things.

759
00:40:16,161 --> 00:40:20,761
Speaker 5: I'm really good at laying out my ideas and just

760
00:40:20,841 --> 00:40:24,841
Speaker 5: starting them and once you get the ball rolling, everything

761
00:40:24,881 --> 00:40:27,801
Speaker 5: else just like kind of falls into place and happens.

762
00:40:28,361 --> 00:40:31,561
Speaker 5: But the amount of times I hear people or I

763
00:40:31,601 --> 00:40:33,881
Speaker 5: have people in my dms, and it's constant. I'll have

764
00:40:33,921 --> 00:40:37,921
Speaker 5: people being like, oh, you've opened two bars and you've

765
00:40:37,921 --> 00:40:41,721
Speaker 5: done this and you've traveled here, and you know, it's.

766
00:40:41,521 --> 00:40:44,001
Speaker 3: All amazing, Like how how do you do this?

767
00:40:44,201 --> 00:40:44,361
Speaker 1: Ouh?

768
00:40:44,561 --> 00:40:48,681
Speaker 3: You know, especially now my podcast Girlfriend for Hire? You know,

769
00:40:48,961 --> 00:40:49,481
Speaker 3: now you've got a.

770
00:40:49,441 --> 00:40:52,841
Speaker 1: Podcast, you go, guys, Girlfriend for high tune in next week,

771
00:40:53,521 --> 00:40:56,361
Speaker 1: Carlia Electric will be bringing you a girlfriend for Hire.

772
00:40:56,681 --> 00:40:57,641
Speaker 1: But it's just you.

773
00:40:57,601 --> 00:41:00,041
Speaker 3: Know, well, how did you do it? How did you

774
00:41:00,361 --> 00:41:02,841
Speaker 3: thank you? How did you get it started?

775
00:41:02,881 --> 00:41:03,281
Speaker 1: Like how?

776
00:41:03,681 --> 00:41:06,161
Speaker 3: And it's just just do it.

777
00:41:06,161 --> 00:41:07,081
Speaker 1: It's so true.

778
00:41:07,161 --> 00:41:12,521
Speaker 5: I don't beat myself up over when the right time is.

779
00:41:12,601 --> 00:41:14,521
Speaker 5: And I think that's the biggest thing that sets me

780
00:41:14,561 --> 00:41:17,081
Speaker 5: apart from other people, because I keep on hearing about

781
00:41:17,081 --> 00:41:20,441
Speaker 5: other people's dreams and goals that they're not going to

782
00:41:20,641 --> 00:41:22,681
Speaker 5: because they don't want to take the leap.

783
00:41:23,241 --> 00:41:25,601
Speaker 1: I want to ask you something because this, I think

784
00:41:25,721 --> 00:41:28,841
Speaker 1: is really important, especially for our listeners out there today.

785
00:41:29,521 --> 00:41:33,001
Speaker 1: Let's talk about a couple of the falls, because that's

786
00:41:33,041 --> 00:41:37,041
Speaker 1: all good and well, but let's talk about some really

787
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:42,521
Speaker 1: hard falls that you've had, because that shows me the

788
00:41:42,561 --> 00:41:45,601
Speaker 1: resilience in you, the strength. And when you're talking as

789
00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: you are now, it all sounds great. It is good,

790
00:41:49,841 --> 00:41:53,161
Speaker 1: and you know hard work is and will continue to

791
00:41:53,201 --> 00:41:56,001
Speaker 1: pay off while you put it in. But it ain't

792
00:41:56,001 --> 00:41:58,441
Speaker 1: aal fucking Roses. And like you say, you've got to

793
00:41:58,481 --> 00:42:01,761
Speaker 1: do it now. And yes, taking that step going into

794
00:42:01,801 --> 00:42:06,121
Speaker 1: business being successful does not happen overnight. And I'm one

795
00:42:06,161 --> 00:42:12,081
Speaker 1: that believes that you've got just just quickly. I took

796
00:42:12,081 --> 00:42:15,881
Speaker 1: on a job last night. Now that job last night

797
00:42:16,081 --> 00:42:19,641
Speaker 1: was quite a big job with a major shopping center

798
00:42:19,841 --> 00:42:22,001
Speaker 1: that I'd been working with for the last couple of

799
00:42:22,001 --> 00:42:25,041
Speaker 1: months to get the foot in the door. The job

800
00:42:25,121 --> 00:42:28,561
Speaker 1: at hand was a very difficult job. To some it

801
00:42:28,561 --> 00:42:31,641
Speaker 1: may sound easy. It was graffiti removal, but it was big.

802
00:42:31,721 --> 00:42:34,561
Speaker 1: It was in an area where it was very public

803
00:42:34,601 --> 00:42:35,361
Speaker 1: main entrance.

804
00:42:35,681 --> 00:42:36,921
Speaker 3: I saw it on your Instagram.

805
00:42:37,001 --> 00:42:39,361
Speaker 1: You did well. If you follow my stories then you

806
00:42:39,361 --> 00:42:41,601
Speaker 1: wouldnt know. So for those out there that's seen it,

807
00:42:41,641 --> 00:42:44,641
Speaker 1: then they will understand. But the whole point of it

808
00:42:44,681 --> 00:42:47,521
Speaker 1: is the textures, the different things about it. It was

809
00:42:47,601 --> 00:42:51,241
Speaker 1: so much involved in to get that job from what

810
00:42:51,241 --> 00:42:54,761
Speaker 1: it was to what it needed to be. And I

811
00:42:54,881 --> 00:42:59,401
Speaker 1: was shitting myself because I had done that particular work before,

812
00:42:59,481 --> 00:43:04,401
Speaker 1: but not in that environment, on such an important part

813
00:43:04,521 --> 00:43:07,081
Speaker 1: of where the public are constantly coming and going from

814
00:43:07,201 --> 00:43:10,481
Speaker 1: it's observed. I had to consider any damage that maybe.

815
00:43:10,841 --> 00:43:13,521
Speaker 1: There's so many liabilities and hazards that could have happened

816
00:43:13,561 --> 00:43:16,281
Speaker 1: that I had to assess prior to the job. I

817
00:43:16,481 --> 00:43:21,441
Speaker 1: was nervous, you know, but I went all in. And no,

818
00:43:21,681 --> 00:43:23,481
Speaker 1: I won't say I faked it till I maked it,

819
00:43:23,481 --> 00:43:27,321
Speaker 1: because I did have an idea, but I definitely felt

820
00:43:27,401 --> 00:43:28,841
Speaker 1: that it was going to be more a fuck up

821
00:43:28,881 --> 00:43:32,401
Speaker 1: than a win. Thank goodness, it was a great wind

822
00:43:32,401 --> 00:43:35,321
Speaker 1: for you, you know. And there that's but the point

823
00:43:35,321 --> 00:43:38,321
Speaker 1: of it is you go all in.

824
00:43:39,801 --> 00:43:43,081
Speaker 3: Or sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

825
00:43:43,201 --> 00:43:48,561
Speaker 5: And I just knew, I don't know, just this feeling

826
00:43:49,001 --> 00:43:52,561
Speaker 5: that I've always had since I was younger, was that

827
00:43:53,401 --> 00:43:57,281
Speaker 5: I wasn't just going to have this normal, boring life

828
00:43:57,361 --> 00:44:00,121
Speaker 5: where I just my alarm went off every morning and

829
00:44:00,161 --> 00:44:02,161
Speaker 5: I went to work and then I just get home

830
00:44:02,201 --> 00:44:04,761
Speaker 5: from my dead end shit job that I hate that

831
00:44:04,761 --> 00:44:06,921
Speaker 5: I get paid well for, and then I just cooked

832
00:44:06,961 --> 00:44:08,721
Speaker 5: dinner and then I go to bed, and I just

833
00:44:08,801 --> 00:44:10,681
Speaker 5: repeat it for the whole rest of my life.

834
00:44:10,721 --> 00:44:14,001
Speaker 3: Like that's I just knew that that's not what I wanted.

835
00:44:14,121 --> 00:44:15,241
Speaker 3: Like my Tinder.

836
00:44:15,001 --> 00:44:21,321
Speaker 5: Bio says, here not here for a normal, average or

837
00:44:21,401 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 5: mediocre life. Put that in perspective, and honestly, it means that, yes,

838
00:44:27,601 --> 00:44:31,081
Speaker 5: I have created some wonderful things and really put myself

839
00:44:31,121 --> 00:44:33,921
Speaker 5: out there and done some wild stuff, like I have

840
00:44:34,681 --> 00:44:39,161
Speaker 5: made things happen out of nothing, and yeah, sometimes it

841
00:44:39,241 --> 00:44:39,681
Speaker 5: works out.

842
00:44:39,801 --> 00:44:41,121
Speaker 3: But a lot of the time, because.

843
00:44:40,881 --> 00:44:44,161
Speaker 5: I am putting myself out there and just fucking trying,

844
00:44:45,121 --> 00:44:46,561
Speaker 5: is that sometimes it doesn't.

845
00:44:46,681 --> 00:44:49,241
Speaker 1: What's been, what's been? Give me two of your hardest falls,

846
00:44:49,881 --> 00:44:54,561
Speaker 1: hardest feelings, what's impacted you the most in your journey.

847
00:44:54,721 --> 00:44:58,641
Speaker 1: Give me two really hard hitting moments, because I think

848
00:44:58,681 --> 00:45:00,881
Speaker 1: that this is what we need to be able to

849
00:45:00,881 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: share with others. Are these moments and how you've come

850
00:45:03,521 --> 00:45:06,801
Speaker 1: back and why and what got you to where you

851
00:45:06,881 --> 00:45:07,321
Speaker 1: are now.

852
00:45:08,081 --> 00:45:12,481
Speaker 5: Definitely the demise of my bar, my tequila bar that

853
00:45:12,561 --> 00:45:15,641
Speaker 5: I had opened and worked so hard for years on.

854
00:45:16,001 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: So this was a journey of dream of vision. Yeah.

855
00:45:18,761 --> 00:45:21,801
Speaker 5: Yeah, just my love of tequila and really wanting to

856
00:45:22,721 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 5: own and you know, going out and socializing and being

857
00:45:25,481 --> 00:45:25,921
Speaker 5: in bars.

858
00:45:25,961 --> 00:45:26,961
Speaker 3: I absolutely love it.

859
00:45:27,001 --> 00:45:29,041
Speaker 5: No matter where I am around the country, I'm always

860
00:45:29,521 --> 00:45:31,921
Speaker 5: trying a new bar and getting a weird.

861
00:45:31,681 --> 00:45:35,401
Speaker 3: And wonderful cocktail. I just I love it. It's for me.

862
00:45:35,521 --> 00:45:37,801
Speaker 5: It's just I don't know, I get so much enjoyment

863
00:45:37,841 --> 00:45:42,401
Speaker 5: out of it. I also was working for an interior

864
00:45:42,441 --> 00:45:45,881
Speaker 5: design firm, a hospitality and interior design firm for a while,

865
00:45:45,961 --> 00:45:49,121
Speaker 5: and you know, kind of it gave me the confidence

866
00:45:49,161 --> 00:45:51,801
Speaker 5: to open up my own establishments.

867
00:45:51,841 --> 00:45:56,521
Speaker 3: So yeah, the bar really hurt me.

868
00:45:56,601 --> 00:45:59,721
Speaker 5: And this is where you know, I have beat myself

869
00:45:59,801 --> 00:46:02,441
Speaker 5: up because maybe if I had gone to school for

870
00:46:02,521 --> 00:46:07,441
Speaker 5: longer or studied business, I would understand business better.

871
00:46:07,721 --> 00:46:09,041
Speaker 3: Instead, I'm a visionary.

872
00:46:09,121 --> 00:46:12,441
Speaker 5: I'm creative, and so I can open these places and

873
00:46:12,441 --> 00:46:13,881
Speaker 5: and you know, I can pitch what it looks like,

874
00:46:13,961 --> 00:46:16,001
Speaker 5: and I can you know, I'm good at marketing and

875
00:46:16,041 --> 00:46:18,361
Speaker 5: social media and all of these things.

876
00:46:18,001 --> 00:46:19,801
Speaker 3: And you know, so I'm really good at that.

877
00:46:19,921 --> 00:46:22,961
Speaker 5: But back knowing the back end business side of things,

878
00:46:23,041 --> 00:46:27,321
Speaker 5: and then having other people just who are you know,

879
00:46:27,481 --> 00:46:32,601
Speaker 5: successful in their own business businesses look at me like

880
00:46:32,641 --> 00:46:35,841
Speaker 5: I was a piece of shit and they just absolutely

881
00:46:35,841 --> 00:46:37,241
Speaker 5: scammed the business off me.

882
00:46:37,961 --> 00:46:40,841
Speaker 3: So yeah, i' what is.

883
00:46:40,761 --> 00:46:43,081
Speaker 1: It with people being fucking shit?

884
00:46:43,441 --> 00:46:46,041
Speaker 3: Yes see, and I'm not that kind of person. It's

885
00:46:46,081 --> 00:46:50,041
Speaker 3: a very gold Coast thing, I if. I don't know.

886
00:46:50,401 --> 00:46:52,881
Speaker 5: I so badly wanted people to see my vision and

887
00:46:53,081 --> 00:46:55,601
Speaker 5: come on board for my bar and you know, we'll

888
00:46:55,641 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 5: all do this together and this will be so fun,

889
00:46:57,561 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 5: and you know, thank you so much for like coming

890
00:46:59,481 --> 00:47:01,921
Speaker 5: in on this. This is my dream and you're helping

891
00:47:01,961 --> 00:47:05,921
Speaker 5: bring it to life. And instead they just smiled and

892
00:47:05,961 --> 00:47:09,841
Speaker 5: nodded and then you know, swindled the business out from

893
00:47:09,921 --> 00:47:13,561
Speaker 5: under me. So look, it's a very gold Coast thing,

894
00:47:13,601 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 5: I think.

895
00:47:14,481 --> 00:47:17,481
Speaker 1: And that happened in a really freakd time of our

896
00:47:17,601 --> 00:47:20,601
Speaker 1: layer lives, all of our lives in that COVID period

897
00:47:21,601 --> 00:47:24,761
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, CoV idea or however.

898
00:47:24,801 --> 00:47:28,561
Speaker 1: Woman to announce it even allowed to say the word anymore.

899
00:47:29,601 --> 00:47:31,841
Speaker 3: I just pretend that it didn't happen whatever.

900
00:47:32,321 --> 00:47:34,961
Speaker 1: So this only actually is just a world reset as

901
00:47:35,001 --> 00:47:35,761
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned.

902
00:47:35,881 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, this only happened to me a year ago.

903
00:47:38,761 --> 00:47:40,841
Speaker 1: So it's still the tequila bar.

904
00:47:41,121 --> 00:47:43,761
Speaker 3: Yeah, the closure of the tequiler bar.

905
00:47:44,121 --> 00:47:49,921
Speaker 5: But I signed the lease back in this like twenty nineteen.

906
00:47:49,961 --> 00:47:52,441
Speaker 5: I signed that lease and it took me three and

907
00:47:52,481 --> 00:47:53,881
Speaker 5: a half years to open.

908
00:47:54,321 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: So you were so emotionally invested by Yeah, I get that. Yeah,

909
00:47:59,441 --> 00:48:00,681
Speaker 1: so I didn't realize.

910
00:48:00,321 --> 00:48:02,601
Speaker 5: That I've only actually been able to start talking about

911
00:48:02,601 --> 00:48:04,041
Speaker 5: it now and it's a whole year later.

912
00:48:04,281 --> 00:48:07,441
Speaker 3: So this for me has been a massive loss, like huge.

913
00:48:07,961 --> 00:48:13,441
Speaker 5: It's the thing that I worked the hardest at and

914
00:48:13,721 --> 00:48:17,881
Speaker 5: really just put every cent, every waking moment. I was

915
00:48:17,881 --> 00:48:20,241
Speaker 5: doing one hundred hours a week working on that business

916
00:48:21,001 --> 00:48:24,081
Speaker 5: for a really long time, and Yeah, for it to

917
00:48:24,321 --> 00:48:28,441
Speaker 5: just be so swiftly taken away from me, it was

918
00:48:28,561 --> 00:48:35,481
Speaker 5: just absolutely devastating. I've not experienced a loss like that before.

919
00:48:35,721 --> 00:48:38,601
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's it's been really tough. The only thing

920
00:48:38,681 --> 00:48:43,361
Speaker 5: that I've kind of gotten from that is it just

921
00:48:43,641 --> 00:48:47,721
Speaker 5: was not now I can see it was just it's fine.

922
00:48:48,241 --> 00:48:50,001
Speaker 3: It just played out the way that it was going

923
00:48:50,041 --> 00:48:50,641
Speaker 3: to play out.

924
00:48:51,121 --> 00:48:53,081
Speaker 1: Do you feel it was meant to be? And you

925
00:48:53,121 --> 00:48:56,601
Speaker 1: know how we talk about following our guard instinct school,

926
00:48:56,641 --> 00:48:59,321
Speaker 1: you know, having these visions, and we even both said it,

927
00:48:59,441 --> 00:49:02,241
Speaker 1: I just do don't hold back. Do you feel that

928
00:49:02,401 --> 00:49:04,521
Speaker 1: you know this is something, like you said, you're so passionate,

929
00:49:04,521 --> 00:49:08,641
Speaker 1: your emotion invested, you waited years. It's not like a

930
00:49:08,761 --> 00:49:11,881
Speaker 1: you know, a quick pop up little bar. It's cool,

931
00:49:11,921 --> 00:49:14,241
Speaker 1: it's funky, it's all happening, and then it felt a shit.

932
00:49:15,001 --> 00:49:19,041
Speaker 1: This is genuinely something that you truly had a passion

933
00:49:19,081 --> 00:49:23,801
Speaker 1: and love for. Yes, and you were truly broken from.

934
00:49:24,401 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really.

935
00:49:28,721 --> 00:49:32,361
Speaker 5: So much good has come in the last year that

936
00:49:32,441 --> 00:49:35,321
Speaker 5: has put me on a completely different path, and opportunities

937
00:49:35,361 --> 00:49:38,441
Speaker 5: have come my way and things have happened for me

938
00:49:38,961 --> 00:49:43,641
Speaker 5: that I could never have even you know, imagined, like

939
00:49:44,481 --> 00:49:45,281
Speaker 5: my podcast.

940
00:49:47,081 --> 00:49:49,481
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your podcast for a second, because you

941
00:49:49,481 --> 00:49:54,241
Speaker 1: are another podcast amongst many other things, and you know

942
00:49:54,401 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: you you're here. We're both under the same team, which

943
00:49:57,561 --> 00:50:01,041
Speaker 1: is fantastic, which led us not so much. I mean,

944
00:50:01,081 --> 00:50:07,281
Speaker 1: we wanted to have this chat anyway, but it.

945
00:50:05,601 --> 00:50:09,401
Speaker 5: We know each other personally, that's not Whenever I say that,

946
00:50:09,481 --> 00:50:12,641
Speaker 5: I always have to reiterate that, it's like, not work personally,

947
00:50:12,801 --> 00:50:14,921
Speaker 5: you're not my client, Like, oh, thank god, I just

948
00:50:15,641 --> 00:50:17,761
Speaker 5: but it's funny I find myself having to like say

949
00:50:17,761 --> 00:50:19,601
Speaker 5: that now because they say, oh, yeah, I know him,

950
00:50:19,601 --> 00:50:29,441
Speaker 5: and then people are like, what God, So you know, yeah,

951
00:50:28,921 --> 00:50:33,841
Speaker 5: we're mates and we just happened to have really fun

952
00:50:33,921 --> 00:50:35,201
Speaker 5: podcasts we do.

953
00:50:35,361 --> 00:50:38,921
Speaker 1: And with this podcast, it's something that you're doing that's

954
00:50:38,961 --> 00:50:41,041
Speaker 1: not really happening out there, and there's a lot of

955
00:50:41,081 --> 00:50:44,081
Speaker 1: trending stuff at the moment. You know. I've been doing

956
00:50:44,121 --> 00:50:47,401
Speaker 1: this now for over four years and I'm very proud

957
00:50:47,441 --> 00:50:52,041
Speaker 1: to say it is successful. We keep going forward, which

958
00:50:52,081 --> 00:50:54,241
Speaker 1: is what it's all about. It's a lot of hard

959
00:50:54,321 --> 00:50:57,281
Speaker 1: work and it is It really can schew you up.

960
00:50:58,081 --> 00:51:01,561
Speaker 1: What you talk about is something different to I believe

961
00:51:01,641 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: most or anybody else out there, for example, and you're

962
00:51:04,761 --> 00:51:08,601
Speaker 1: living that life at the same time as speaking.

963
00:51:10,241 --> 00:51:14,361
Speaker 5: I'm just talking about my life and my work life essentially,

964
00:51:14,441 --> 00:51:17,921
Speaker 5: and what happens in my work life, which is pretty

965
00:51:18,121 --> 00:51:21,041
Speaker 5: all over the place sometimes, but it's you know, I

966
00:51:21,761 --> 00:51:22,561
Speaker 5: love what I do.

967
00:51:22,641 --> 00:51:26,721
Speaker 3: I find so much. I get so much.

968
00:51:26,681 --> 00:51:29,921
Speaker 5: From it, like the reward from me. Obviously, the money

969
00:51:30,001 --> 00:51:34,321
Speaker 5: is very good, and the money is what lured me. Well,

970
00:51:34,441 --> 00:51:38,521
Speaker 5: the money plus the time I was being given time.

971
00:51:38,881 --> 00:51:40,521
Speaker 3: I'd never had time. I always worked.

972
00:51:40,841 --> 00:51:44,801
Speaker 5: All I've ever known is working ridiculous hours. And so

973
00:51:44,921 --> 00:51:48,281
Speaker 5: what this the sex work industry has given me is time.

974
00:51:48,961 --> 00:51:51,521
Speaker 5: You know, I don't set alarms in the morning, so.

975
00:51:51,481 --> 00:51:54,881
Speaker 1: You've built your lifestyle around yeah, rather dictate to you

976
00:51:54,961 --> 00:51:55,321
Speaker 1: how you do.

977
00:51:56,041 --> 00:51:59,161
Speaker 5: I work a couple of hours a week, and it's

978
00:51:59,281 --> 00:52:00,841
Speaker 5: given me time, but.

979
00:52:00,921 --> 00:52:04,801
Speaker 3: Also a really I enjoy.

980
00:52:05,641 --> 00:52:09,841
Speaker 5: I enjoy what I do, and I think that no

981
00:52:09,921 --> 00:52:13,761
Speaker 5: longer having the bar and me focusing, I told myself

982
00:52:13,761 --> 00:52:15,921
Speaker 5: that I was just going to tour around the country,

983
00:52:16,001 --> 00:52:20,441
Speaker 5: being a touring escort for the year. Just do that,

984
00:52:21,321 --> 00:52:24,081
Speaker 5: not think about any other businesses. Just try and relax

985
00:52:24,121 --> 00:52:28,521
Speaker 5: my brain, try and move on past the bar falling apart.

986
00:52:28,601 --> 00:52:35,401
Speaker 5: And instead what's happened is I've had a really incredible time.

987
00:52:36,001 --> 00:52:37,921
Speaker 3: I've been kind to myself.

988
00:52:38,681 --> 00:52:42,281
Speaker 5: I've not beat myself up or you know, spiraled too

989
00:52:42,401 --> 00:52:47,681
Speaker 5: hard with you know, the great loss of understanding businesses

990
00:52:47,841 --> 00:52:50,081
Speaker 5: and you know, have to close businesses that they love

991
00:52:50,521 --> 00:52:53,121
Speaker 5: all the time, and especially when you put every second

992
00:52:53,161 --> 00:52:56,401
Speaker 5: and every cent and you know into it.

993
00:52:55,961 --> 00:52:59,201
Speaker 3: It can be really hard. So yeah, it was just

994
00:52:59,241 --> 00:52:59,761
Speaker 3: really good.

995
00:52:59,961 --> 00:53:03,961
Speaker 5: But what has actually happened is when I'm spending so

996
00:53:04,041 --> 00:53:07,601
Speaker 5: much time connecting with men who are paying for my services,

997
00:53:09,161 --> 00:53:13,201
Speaker 5: it really just puts things into perspective for me, and

998
00:53:13,681 --> 00:53:16,961
Speaker 5: I get so much job satisfaction out of bringing people

999
00:53:17,081 --> 00:53:20,361
Speaker 5: something that they're obviously missing in their life. And a

1000
00:53:20,401 --> 00:53:22,601
Speaker 5: lot of the time what they're missing in their life

1001
00:53:22,761 --> 00:53:27,241
Speaker 5: is human contact or you know, just being able to

1002
00:53:27,281 --> 00:53:32,401
Speaker 5: speak intimately or cuddle somebody, or you know, trying to

1003
00:53:32,401 --> 00:53:35,001
Speaker 5: have sex if they haven't done that in fifteen years

1004
00:53:35,041 --> 00:53:36,641
Speaker 5: and they've decided.

1005
00:53:36,201 --> 00:53:40,881
Speaker 1: That you're basically a healer. I've got my I'm going

1006
00:53:40,921 --> 00:53:42,921
Speaker 1: to throw him under the fucking bus. I've got my producer.

1007
00:53:42,961 --> 00:53:45,481
Speaker 1: He's spinning his finger and throwing his five minutes up.

1008
00:53:45,721 --> 00:53:49,361
Speaker 1: So we're going to wrap this up in a second,

1009
00:53:48,801 --> 00:53:51,841
Speaker 1: because I'm going to get really upset and I'm in

1010
00:53:51,881 --> 00:53:53,641
Speaker 1: a shit of a mood. But now I love it,

1011
00:53:54,401 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: but I'm going to lay it on the line. There's

1012
00:53:55,961 --> 00:53:58,041
Speaker 1: no bullshit. Here. This is how it's happened, So we're

1013
00:53:58,081 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: going to cut it a little bit shorter. So look,

1014
00:54:01,521 --> 00:54:04,641
Speaker 1: I just firstly want to commend you on who you

1015
00:54:04,681 --> 00:54:08,481
Speaker 1: are and how you hold yourself and congratulations on all

1016
00:54:08,521 --> 00:54:12,841
Speaker 1: your successes. You know, thank you for sitting down with

1017
00:54:12,881 --> 00:54:15,441
Speaker 1: me today here anyway, and I really want to just

1018
00:54:15,721 --> 00:54:20,521
Speaker 1: before we do actually go, just leave a really nice

1019
00:54:20,961 --> 00:54:24,681
Speaker 1: positive paragraph or something that's important to you that will

1020
00:54:24,721 --> 00:54:28,081
Speaker 1: inspire or help somebody else through your experience and to

1021
00:54:28,161 --> 00:54:31,201
Speaker 1: get into what they are passionate about or their success

1022
00:54:31,401 --> 00:54:32,201
Speaker 1: is moving forward.

1023
00:54:33,001 --> 00:54:37,081
Speaker 3: I think for me it was.

1024
00:54:39,161 --> 00:54:44,321
Speaker 5: Being true to myself, really listening to what I want

1025
00:54:44,401 --> 00:54:48,121
Speaker 5: to do and going with that flow. And sometimes you

1026
00:54:48,161 --> 00:54:50,361
Speaker 5: can have the pressure of family and everybody in your

1027
00:54:50,361 --> 00:54:53,041
Speaker 5: ear or people telling you that you'd be doing this

1028
00:54:53,121 --> 00:54:57,561
Speaker 5: or this or this, and I just genuinely do what

1029
00:54:57,641 --> 00:55:00,001
Speaker 5: I want to do and live my life authentically for

1030
00:55:00,081 --> 00:55:01,841
Speaker 5: how I want to live it, and it brings me

1031
00:55:02,321 --> 00:55:06,201
Speaker 5: a lot of peace and happiness, peace and happiness that

1032
00:55:06,241 --> 00:55:09,681
Speaker 5: I've never had before thinking that I had to do

1033
00:55:10,001 --> 00:55:13,081
Speaker 5: these things, or I had to get married, or I

1034
00:55:13,121 --> 00:55:13,481
Speaker 5: had to.

1035
00:55:13,401 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: Buy a house, or I have to have a really

1036
00:55:15,521 --> 00:55:16,801
Speaker 3: successful job or.

1037
00:55:16,841 --> 00:55:19,881
Speaker 5: Career and I've let all of that go and I'm

1038
00:55:19,921 --> 00:55:22,641
Speaker 5: just focused on me doing what i want to do,

1039
00:55:22,881 --> 00:55:26,761
Speaker 5: and that has brought me all of the contentment and

1040
00:55:26,841 --> 00:55:28,721
Speaker 5: happiness and that I've got.

1041
00:55:28,761 --> 00:55:31,201
Speaker 3: And I am glad that I'm at this point.

1042
00:55:31,041 --> 00:55:34,281
Speaker 5: Because you know, I used to be pretty miserable and

1043
00:55:34,361 --> 00:55:35,161
Speaker 5: I'm not anymore.

1044
00:55:35,281 --> 00:55:36,281
Speaker 3: And that's nice.

1045
00:55:36,841 --> 00:55:39,321
Speaker 1: And she says that with a beautiful big smile. Carly,

1046
00:55:39,441 --> 00:55:41,641
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today on the clean.

1047
00:55:42,161 --> 00:55:44,881
Speaker 1: Thank you for your patience mister producer, as he will

1048
00:55:44,881 --> 00:55:46,881
Speaker 1: cut the shit out of this and piss that right off.

1049
00:55:47,241 --> 00:55:50,801
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's been an honor, it's been a pleasure.

1050
00:55:50,881 --> 00:55:55,761
Speaker 1: And look we no doubt can revisit this again further

1051
00:55:55,801 --> 00:55:59,681
Speaker 1: down the track on your thank you very much. I'm

1052
00:55:59,681 --> 00:56:02,081
Speaker 1: doing my best. They you have a Guys to Clink

1053
00:56:02,761 --> 00:56:06,361
Speaker 1: Season sixteen. Today's guest to Carly, thank you so much

1054
00:56:06,401 --> 00:56:09,921
Speaker 1: for coming on and joining us. Really great informative conversation,

1055
00:56:10,001 --> 00:56:13,001
Speaker 1: a little bit different, but one that's really worth listening to. Guys,

1056
00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:17,041
Speaker 1: continue to download remember Clinking apparel, add all sideways surf

1057
00:56:17,761 --> 00:56:20,721
Speaker 1: surf outlets on the East Coast of Australia, and thank

1058
00:56:20,801 --> 00:56:22,921
Speaker 1: you for the record.

1059
00:56:23,121 --> 00:56:26,361
Speaker 2: Don't try and make you uncomfortable for the record. You

1060
00:56:26,401 --> 00:56:27,801
Speaker 2: ain't try and world downer stuff.

1061
00:56:27,521 --> 00:56:29,841
Speaker 1: For your for the record.

1062
00:56:29,721 --> 00:56:32,801
Speaker 2: Lab on me going hard to work for the record,

1063
00:56:32,921 --> 00:56:35,561
Speaker 2: ain't trying to link, not trying to waste stuff for

1064
00:56:35,601 --> 00:56:41,121
Speaker 2: the reged for the record, for the for the record,

1065
00:56:42,001 --> 00:56:45,881
Speaker 2: for the record, for the record, for the regged