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Speaker 1: Apologie Production, Grow and Glows Twelve Days of Christmas. Hello everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to Grow and Glow. This is twelve

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Speaker 1: days of Christmas and I have an incredible guest on

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Speaker 1: with me today, doctor Natt. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: I've actually spoken to you multiple times over the years,

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Speaker 1: and I just call you like the queen of all

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Speaker 1: things women's health and hormone energy, skin, pregnancy, fertility. So

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Speaker 1: in twenty minutes today, we're going to try and dive

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Speaker 1: deep into as many topics as we can. But before

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Speaker 1: get started, for anyone who doesn't know who you are,

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Speaker 1: in a nutshell, who are you and what do you do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So my background is in Chinese medicine. I never

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Speaker 2: planned on treating fertility. It kind of found me, and

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Speaker 2: then from fertility in those early years, it's sort of

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Speaker 2: branched out to women's health from you know, puberty through

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Speaker 2: to postmenopause, and that I get great to light in

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Speaker 2: because I think as women, we really don't understand our

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Speaker 2: bodies until something seems to not be working. But I

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Speaker 2: want a mission to help women understand their bodies from

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Speaker 2: a young age so they can make really great choices

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Speaker 2: for their long term health.

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Speaker 1: I really want to talk about stress and fertility because

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Speaker 1: I feel like in this day and age, we all

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Speaker 1: know so many women that are struggling to fall pregnant.

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Speaker 1: And I know when you talk about these type of topics,

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Speaker 1: they do ruffle a few feathers and it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit controversial. I suppose in your opinion, how does stress

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Speaker 1: impact a fatility?

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Speaker 2: We know that stress does many things to impact fertility,

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Speaker 2: and it's a coping mechanism. Your body's not really designed

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Speaker 2: to be stressed and procreate at the same time, so

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Speaker 2: it knows that it really your sex hormones are kind

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Speaker 2: of in competition with your stress hormones, or maybe the

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Speaker 2: other way around, I should say, So when there is

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Speaker 2: high cortisol and we're highly stressed, your body knows to

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Speaker 2: take your sex hormones offline, or at least pull the

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Speaker 2: brake on them. We're perfect by design, even though it

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Speaker 2: can feel like our body's failing us at these times.

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Speaker 2: And I think the hard part is we're often told,

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Speaker 2: especially from fertility doctors, that stress doesn't matter. Now when

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Speaker 2: you're isolating your sex hormones, and you're using therapies around

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Speaker 2: that you can isolate them, but it's still a collective

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Speaker 2: of everything that's happening all at once. You can't just

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Speaker 2: isolate systems. So stress impacts our gut, impacts our gut microbiome,

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Speaker 2: which is really one of the first places that we

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Speaker 2: see metabolism of hormones. It obviously also can change the

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Speaker 2: quality or the amount of pogestriin available as well, So

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Speaker 2: we need that hormone to maintain a pregnancy, and it's

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Speaker 2: the one that kind of not a hCG, but our

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Speaker 2: pogestrin also goes up, so it's often what we're testing

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Speaker 2: to make sure that a pregnancy is something that's going

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Speaker 2: to continue. So cortisole and pedestrion they kind of are

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Speaker 2: So it is something that I'm really passionate about talking

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Speaker 2: about because I think women are misled to believe that

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Speaker 2: eat it too, and it just doesn't really work like that,

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that you can't be successful and

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Speaker 2: not be stressed either, like you can actually be successful

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Speaker 2: do less achieve more and have all of the things,

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Speaker 2: but we have to be conscious about stress levels. It's

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Speaker 2: a silent epidemic. I say, like we are highly stressed generally,

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Speaker 2: but I think the pressure that women put upon themselves

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Speaker 2: at that point in time, especially trying to conceive, is

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Speaker 1: I remember years and years ago when we spoke this

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Speaker 1: one thing that really helped me and my periods. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to ask you what are the three best things

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Speaker 1: a sign of inflammation the body, and that changed my life.

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Speaker 1: Ever since then, I've been so focused on making sure

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Speaker 1: period symptoms have gone and been gone ever since. I

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Speaker 1: What would you say are the top three tips? I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing stress and getting your inflammation down. Is there any

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Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is how stress is actually one

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Speaker 2: we need to make sure our nutrition's dialed in. We

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Speaker 2: and eat better, you'd be like, that's a great episode,

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Speaker 2: as she well done, Like not she has a great guest.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that you have to mention those

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Speaker 2: things because you cannot out supplement sleep. You can't. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing you can do to outrun it. You have to

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Speaker 2: spend time doing it, and the majority of us aren't

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Speaker 2: getting enough. And it really does show, especially as we

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Speaker 2: become more temperamental. It doesn't mean you're not fertile, but

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Speaker 2: the age of thirty five, our ovarian reserve and our

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Speaker 2: ovarian function starts to decline. It's not a switch, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't just get flicked off. You could be fertile for

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Speaker 2: another twenty years at that point. I mean that's probably

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Speaker 2: And so I think that's really important to understand that

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Speaker 2: you become more temperamental, and sleep is one of the

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Speaker 2: we've said stress, we've said nutrition and sleep. When I

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Speaker 2: say nutrition as well, protein is so important for your hormones.

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Speaker 2: Your hormones are made of fat and protein, and we

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Speaker 2: again a lot of women are afraid of eating good fats,

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Speaker 2: and I know that you talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 2: And obviously protein and we really do need to prioritize protein.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing I would say that is super

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Speaker 2: important is fiber. So fiber is also for the women

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Speaker 2: that have hormone imbalances. And we might see too much

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Speaker 2: very commonly estrogen or testosterone we can see in excess,

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Speaker 2: So excess in say pcos we see too much testosterone

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Speaker 2: One of the main ways that we can help our

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Speaker 2: is a binder, and excess hormones will bind to fiber

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Speaker 2: and you will poop.

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Speaker 1: Yes, fib I did not know that right, So fiber

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Speaker 2: Balance blood sugar so important if there is a hormone

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Speaker 2: it also helps to detoxify and eliminate. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: a nutrition perspective, there's three things there as well that

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Speaker 1: I feel like we really underestimate the foundational things like hydration, sleep, stress, nutrition,

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Speaker 1: and we're all looking for this quick fix or this

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Speaker 1: next supplement or you know, a faster way to fix

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Speaker 1: the problem. But when we get back to the foundational things,

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Speaker 1: it really does make such a huge impact when focused

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Speaker 2: You can't outdo them. That's the thing. Regardless of whether

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Speaker 2: whatever it might be, you still have to do these things.

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Speaker 2: They should be primary. Especially supplements should be the cherry

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Speaker 2: uphill can have a bigger impact. It's not to say

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Speaker 2: it can't influence the body. If you don't have the

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Speaker 1: So for someone listening to be like, oh my gosh, fiber, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do I eat? What do I take? What would

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Speaker 2: You can mean we should be eating fiber and we

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Speaker 2: should be doing that at every meal. So my favorites

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Speaker 2: tolerate them. Berries are a may, apples, carrots, pears, asparagus.

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Speaker 2: high fiber foods and then look at the ones that

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Speaker 2: are generally very happy to have, you know, a carrot

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Speaker 2: handful of blueberries. I actually have created a fiber product.

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Speaker 2: called Mbody, and we launched it last year. We've had

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Speaker 2: the most amazing results. But the reason I created it

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is so basic, guys. So things

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Speaker 2: like slipperyalm, flaxi, chia cilium, they're kind of like foundational

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Speaker 2: And it's even right down to mood because let's think

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Speaker 2: about it. If we're supporting our gut, it's where we

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Speaker 2: we're not doing that properly or our guts compromised, then

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Speaker 2: my moods are better. Well, like, then we did some

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Speaker 2: just don't underestimate food. You know that. I know that

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Speaker 2: the listener knows that, but I'm going to say it

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Speaker 2: because if I didn't, I'd be actually discounting just how

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Speaker 2: simple things can be. And we've got to make them

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, and that's I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: thing with your supplement too, Like, yes, we could go

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Speaker 1: and easy that you can take like that, can I

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Speaker 1: ask does it taste like shit?

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Speaker 2: If you don't, it becomes stressful and then it's counterproductive,

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Speaker 2: as we've already spoken about. So it is about really

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Speaker 2: letting them guide you as to what the next best

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so true. Thank you so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we could talk for hours, but these

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Speaker 1: episodes are jam packed, But for anyone listening and be like,

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Speaker 1: to work with you. I want more questions. Where do

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Speaker 2: Amazing? I would love to help anyone. I hang out

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Speaker 2: a lot on Instagram, so it's Nat Krem Goodas on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: But I would absolutely say and all the links are

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Speaker 2: but my website, if you go to Natcremduddas dot com

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Speaker 2: and you use the search function, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: there's anything on there that I haven't covered. And if

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Speaker 2: if there's something that I haven't covered, it's like a

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Speaker 2: library of info. There's something that I haven't covered, then

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Speaker 2: reach out to us and I will absolutely write about it.

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Speaker 2: But I think you'll find that there'll be a lot

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Speaker 2: of next best steps, you know, what's the next thing

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Speaker 2: I can do. And finally, the other thing that is

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Speaker 2: on the website, and there's a link in my bio

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Speaker 2: on Instagram is we do have a hormone quiz and

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Speaker 2: all it does is profile your symptoms to figure out

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Speaker 2: what your hormone imbalance might be. So it'll tell you

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Speaker 2: you know your likely imbalance is too much eastrogen or

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Speaker 2: thing that you can do, so that could be useful.

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Speaker 2: It's about using symptoms and it helps you to profile

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Speaker 2: them and figure out what to do next.

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Speaker 1: So that's amazing, and that's just amazing I can get

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Speaker 1: off this podcast and actually take your action and do

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Speaker 1: something you know. Well, thank you so much. I'll leave

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Speaker 1: all of your details in the show notes below so

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Speaker 1: you guys can click straight to it. But thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us, and hopefully we'll be out of chat again soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Actually, you have a lovely Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah YouTube, Bye bye