WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 3 September 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.359 General, welcome the late debase. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.280 Thanks for joining us. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Doorra 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:11.200 and Caleb Bond. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:11.760 Coming up. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.480 Fake Lamborghinis being sold on Facebook. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:16.360 We'll talk about that. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:18.439 A little later, although I've got to say, Caleb and Liz, 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.159 if you're looking on Facebook to buy a Lamborghinni, you 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:25.880 can't afford Lamberginning. Plus, when we look at the papers, 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.160 Sydney councils taking two hundred days or more to approve 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.440 building developments, that's in the middle of a housing crisis, 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.080 and labor being pushed to include dental in medicare. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.440 We'll get all of that when we look at the papers. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:43.400 But first, British car manufacturers are rationing the sale of 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.960 petrol vehicles in order to avoid massive fines for missing 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:53.240 government imposed mandates for quotas on electric cars. Now, the 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.200 British government has mandated twenty two percent of all new 0:00:56.280 --> 0:01:00.000 car sales have to be electric vehicles, and that percentage 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.360 ramps up every year until in twenty thirty it has 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.400 to be eighty percent of new cars electric. And they're 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:11.800 threatening manufacturers with fifteen thousand pound fines. It's about thirty 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:17.479 thousand Australian dollars for every petrol vehicle sold outside the quota. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.399 The problem is not enough people want to buy electric vehicles. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.720 So have a listen to this admission by Robert Forrester. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.480 He's the chief executive of Virtue Motors. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:28.640 In the UK. 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:33.200 He told journalists in some franchises there's now a restriction 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.360 on supply of electric cars, sorry of petrol cars and 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.880 hybrid cars, which is actually where the demand is. It's 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.280 almost as if we can't supply the cars people want, 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.800 but we've got plenty of the cars that maybe they 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.680 don't want. The manufacturers are trying to avoid the fines, 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.920 so they're constraining the ability for us to supply petrol 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.920 cars in order to try and keep to the government targets. Now, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.880 he went on to explain that if you walked into 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.440 many car dealers to day and said, hey, I've got 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.360 the cash, I want to buy a car, they would 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.640 not deliver that car to you until February next year, 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.240 not because the car is not ready, it's just that 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.480 manufacturers are holding them back because they want to make 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.560 sure they meet the quotas for electric vehicles and avoid fines. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.680 He goes on to explain the consequences of this. He said, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.320 what the government's actually doing is constraining the new car market, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.040 which has a big impact on that receipts, that's tax income, 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.000 and creates a business environment in the UK where manufacturers 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:36.880 may question whether they want to make cars here at all. Well, Caleb, 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.880 if only we had some sort of warning that, you know, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:41.760 Soviet style command economies. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:43.160 I hang on a second. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.799 There was a Soviet Union where they tried this very 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.040 thing and it failed. And what do they say, Those 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.840 that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.080 And this is happening right across the Western world. 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.240 Indeed, and that the definition of stupidity is doing the 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.000 same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.800 It's a good day to be used car salesman, isn't. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.480 It, Because what rices will go exactly. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.640 What this will do is inflate the used car market 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.160 because if you can't buy a new car that you want, well, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.360 your only other option is to go and buy a 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.400 used car. And let's be honest, this is coming to 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.440 a car dealership near you because the Albanesi government has 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.959 its own targets for vehicles being sold in this country 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.960 that are about to come into effect, and it's slightly 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.880 different in that they're not going to find companies for 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.880 selling too many petrol cars or not enough electric cars. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.400 But they have an overall tax system basically where you know, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.320 if they sell too many cars that put out too 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.800 many emissions, then they have to pay a tax, and 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.480 of course that tax then gets. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.160 Passed on to the consumer. But don't worry. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.080 Don't remember when all of this was touted and we 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.920 were told by the government that was going to happen, 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.200 Chris Bowen cassanover Bowen told us nothing to worry about. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.200 There will be no restriction on cars whatsoever. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.560 Companies can continue to import any particular model they wish. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:07.440 No model will be mandatory, no model will be banned. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.480 Sure, no model will be mandatory or banned by law. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.240 But the effect of the rules is that if the 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.719 manufacturer wants to be able to sell cars at a 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.200 reasonable price to consumers, they have to think about the 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.680 sorts of cars that they are selling. And what we 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.000 have seen and I imagine it's exactly the same in 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.360 the UK, is that the market for hybrid vehicles has 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.520 gone through the roof. Consumers are not of verse are 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.360 not averse to buying vehicles that are better for the 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.720 environment and ultimately better for their hip pockets because if 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.159 you're driving a hybrid vehicle, you spend far less on 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.920 fuel because you're using half battery half fuel. Essentially, it's 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.599 good as a driver, it's good for the environment. That 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.200 is what the market has decided people want to buy. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.839 But the federal government here, just as the government in 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.760 the UK, s is no, you must buy electric vehgles, 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.640 except even though they're trying to force people to buy 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.200 electric bigles, still not buying electric vehicles. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.640 The whole thing is a sham, which. 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.760 Is why you know that it's just a matter of 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.760 time before they make similar laws here, because that's what 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.560 government does with all their terrible ideas. They know it's 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.960 not going to take up. They can see the market. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.640 The evs haven't taken off. We've got thousands of them 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.640 piling up in the country and nobody wants to buy them. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.359 So when you come up with a terrible idea, you 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:27.640 have to mandate it. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.880 Because it's not catching on, so you've. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.160 Got to make it compulsory. And the EU has already 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.880 made similar measures than the UK has, which we're discussing here. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.160 So has Canada, and so has several states in the US. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:47.640 It's just a matter of time before Australia's whacked with 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:48.280 the same thing. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:48.560 We know. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.640 The Act has already banned the sale of petrol cars 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.160 from twenty thirty five. Then the Climate Council came out 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.359 just two weeks later after that ban came into I 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.360 don't obviously it won't come into effect till thirty five, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.040 but that bill was passed and the Climate Council comes 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:12.800 out two weeks later and says, we recommend this be nationwide. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.200 It's got to be nationwide. How else are we going 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:21.520 to reach our zero emissions targets. It makes sense everyone. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.240 Should be doing this. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:27.960 And that was also just weeks after the federal government 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.680 put their new fuel efficiency standards in place. So you 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.440 can feel the noose tightening around your neck if you're 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.159 someone who just wants to buy whatever car you want, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.800 drive whatever car you want. They're already building the stepping 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:47.320 stones to a similar mandate like this one. I say 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.760 it all the time, but this one is clearly another 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:55.000 case of predetermined outcomes when they're all acting in concert 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.479 like this, Like you said, Caleb across the West. It's 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.440 clear it's just a matter of time before Australia's in 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:02.120 the same basket. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.599 The interesting thing about the sale of evs in the 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.960 UK is that where sales are increasing is with fleet 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.840 and so it's mostly companies that have their own internal 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.480 policies because they've got to meet climate targets so that 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.960 they can prove that they are virtuous and deserve to 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.800 do business. So they're buying electric vehicles, but not because 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.320 they want them. It's just they've got their own quotas 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.680 that they have to meet. But the situation is so ridiculous. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:29.640 You've got manufacturers deliberately slowing down the sale of their 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.520 own product in order to avoid a fine from a 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.480 government that relies on the taxes from the sale of 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:41.200 that very product to fund hospitals, schools. So everybody loses 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:42.840 with this, including the government. 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:43.240 Yea yeah. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.200 But the best part of it I going back to 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.960 the Canberra point of the act point that you made there. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.440 I mean, I'd be setting up a dealership in Yats 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:51.680 right now. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.080 Whoever thinks about. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.440 Yas of all places, but it's just over the border 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.720 into New South Wales. I'd be putting up a car 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:02.600 dealership there, Toyota dealership whatever, and selling petrol cars over there, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.560 so everyone from the ACT will just pop over the 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.760 border and buy a car and drive straight back into 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.200 the ACT. But the best part of all of this 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.480 is that the government is trying to impose the mandate 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:16.200 and the market is not doing the mandate. They're saying, look, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.720 if we can't sell X number of vehicles this year, 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.560 then we'll simply sell them next year instead. And that's 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.960 because the consumer won't buy the electric vehicles, so they're 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.200 trying to mandate it, and even the mandate isn't. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.600 But then will it just work on a manufacturing level, 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.839 because obviously, if as a manufacturer, you guys the dealerships 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.120 aren't allowed to sell my petrol cars, I'll just stop 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.120 making them, thereby forcing you all to do my bidding 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.120 along the line. Tell you who doesn't seem to care 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.640 about emissions at all is Premier Steven Miles. He's just 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:55.920 been busted using a government jet for an eleven minute flight. Well, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.880 this must have been some sort of emergency type business, right, No, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.840 he went there to give a birthday cake to one 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:08.640 of his MPs and announce some fence at a school 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.200 of course his office didn't paint it in that light. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.520 His office said he was in the region. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.280 To quote, meet with then listen to Queenslanders across the state. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.360 These regions have unique opportunities and challenges that the Miles 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.520 Labor government is working hard to address, including a shortfall 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:32.199 in access to primary healthcare, said his poor beleagued spokeswoman, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.200 who must at this point just want to throw her 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.840 job in because she knows come the polling day later 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.520 this year, she's going to be out of a job. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:40.960 Now. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.360 This is reminiscent of when the same premiere was busted 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.760 in April this year taking two jets with his police 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:54.280 commissioner and his Minister for Police spending. Again, Goodness knows 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.040 how many thousands of taxpayer dollars. 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:57.760 I mean, it's. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.240 Okay when they do it. You know, emissions don't don't 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.079 matter as long as there's a politician on board. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.280 This guy's got form. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:09.680 And that, remember was just days after they'd passed their 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.760 u butte new emissions reduction target to reduce emissions in 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.680 the state by seventy five twenty thirty five and zero 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.160 emissions by twenty fifty. So here they are. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:22.959 They just legislated this. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.520 It is now in law, ladies and. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:30.360 Gentlemen, And here he is catching flights like it's nobody's business. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.120 I love his spokesperson who went challenged about the costs 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:34.160 and no, no, no, we. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.840 Already had the jet so it didn't cost any extra. 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:38.520 But it runs on fresh air. 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:39.719 How do they. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:40.840 Actually fly the thing? 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.839 And then he goes to announce give the birthday cake right, 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.240 and to announce the school fence if they win the election, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.880 because you know, budgets are tight. Well, if they hadn't 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.360 used the fuel on that jet, they could have bought 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:54.240 the school fence. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.520 I know, I'd look seriously to put it into context. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.160 It was a seventy four kilometer journey from a Harvey 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.720 Bay to Bunderbook. Seventy four kilometers. Now that is the 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.560 same distance as between Brisbane and Surfer's Paradise. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.839 So it's a bit over an hour on the road 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:12.920 to drive there. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.480 But you've got to save that, you know, fifty sixty 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.839 odd minutes so you can take an eleven minute flight. Now, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.680 look of all the things that Stephen Miles could be 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.560 doing with his day, sure being on the road, there 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.600 are probably better things he could be doing. But you 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.600 know what, I would rather him be on the road 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.360 for that extra hour because it gives him lifts less 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.520 time to bugger up things in Queensland, because once he 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.240 gets off the plane in Bunderberg, he's bought an extra 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.000 hour to pass more legislation and come up with more 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.480 looney ideas when he's on the. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.880 Ground Birthday without realizing it. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.560 If you're on the key point, the reason he wasn't 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.000 on the road is because that road is crap. Because 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.800 way to improve the Bruce Highway, So every mug in 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.120 Queensland has to drive it, but not the premiere or 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:56.280 he knows how bad. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.560 That road is, so he floats higher bow. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.880 Only the plans have to up or on the road. 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.600 Only the plans have to pay energy prices through the roof. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.000 Only the plans have to. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.480 Brace for blackouts. How many times have we been told 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.680 that with summer breathing down our next only US plans 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.320 have to drink out of saga paper straws, while these 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.640 guys just continue to jet around, spewing out emissions into 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:25.160 the atmosphere and preaching to us about how doom is 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.079 imminent as a matter of climate change. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.079 You will know this, Sorry, I didn't research this. It 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:31.800 just occurred to me. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.280 Has Stephen Miles ever been in opposition, because this seems 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.200 to be to be the behavior of a politician who's 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:41.680 never been in opposition. He's only known the luxury of government. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:42.560 They've been government from. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.160 I think this is the behavior of a politician who 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:50.400 knows that he's got time, like you know what, who 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.360 cares at this point eleven minute jet flights to hand 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:54.000 out his birthday. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.240 It's a bit like and you may remember, because you 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.480 were probably in canber at the time, was it was 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.760 it All Gillard who when they were deposed as Prime 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.520 minister went down to the cellar in the lodge and 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.880 had a massive party before they got chucked out, just 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.880 like just went through all the wine because it was like, well, 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.480 what the hell, like this is my last ten minutes 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.240 in the job. I may amazed, well enjoy it while 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:18.000 I'm there. 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.280 Sounds like something right with and we'll. 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.720 Never forget as well, when Tony Abbott was deposed as 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.440 Prime Minister and Jamie Briggs got up on a marble 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:27.640 table dancing and. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.280 Broken and then had. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:33.600 To be wheeled around in a wheelchair afterward, you may 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:34.080 as well. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.000 Enjoy the trappings of the job on the way out. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.400 Stephen Marles certainly is, But isn't it amazing what you 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.440 can do when you have other people's money. Let's go 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.800 to the Paralympics, where for the first time, an openly 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:49.040 transgender athlete has competed in the athletics. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:50.120 In the running, more. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.520 Specifically, this is a fifty year old male who now 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.440 says he is a woman, goes by the name of 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:00.000 Valentina Petrillo. Got to the semi finals in the four 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.680 F one hundred meter running, came third and then got 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.240 knocked out. But that's not really the point, because it 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:10.520 doesn't matter whether a transgender woman actually wins the event. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.200 It's the fact that they are there in the first place, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.520 and good enough clearly to get through to the semi finals. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.160 Now you can imagine the outrage that has flowed from 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.280 all of this. Sharon Davies, who's a British Olympic silver 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:28.000 medal winning swimmer, said, so we ban Lance Armstrong for 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.280 taking drugs which will give him a small but important 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.520 advantage over his male rivals, because it's cheating. But we 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.760 let fifty one year old male Valentina Patrillo have a 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.560 huge advantage with no issue at all against female athletes. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.160 Why is this being allowed? 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:43.240 JK. Rowling. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.040 Of course, the author of Harry Potter, in her usual 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.280 common sense fashion, said why all the anger about the 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:53.080 inspirational Patrillo. The cheap community has never had this kind 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.360 of visibility out and proud cheats like Patrillo prove the 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.400 era of cheat shaming is over. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:14:59.440 What a role model. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.640 I say, we give Lance Armstrong his medals back and 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:07.120 move on. Hashtag cheats, hashtag no shame. And it was 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.960 only a week and a half ago that Petrillo was 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.320 talking about the fact that this is a momentous occasion. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.479 How good that I get to be the first transgender 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.280 woman competing openly at the Paralympics. And by the way, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.800 there should be a lot more on me. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:50.040 Appreciated, You're respected with the ramento atropo Villamangors persad add 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:52.240 in respect to. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.520 Petrillo qualifies for the Paralympics by being visually impaired, has 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:12.560 part blindness apparently. But of course in that interview says, 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.040 as we were talking about last night, my ID says, 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.160 I am a woman, therefore I am a woman. And 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.680 we talked last night about the fact that in Germany, 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.080 you know, you can now no longer say that someone 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.600 is a male, even though they are a biological male, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.920 because it says on their passport or their license or 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.640 their birth certificate or whatever that they are female. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.520 And this is the position we end up in here. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.920 And you go back to the discussion, of course, around 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:40.000 boxing in the main Olympics, where you had two competitors 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.800 who had apparently previously tested positive for x Y chromosome, 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.320 so it's believed they might be biological men, et cetera, 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:47.080 et cetera, et cetera. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.440 I mean, it doesn't matter whether you're the worst. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.840 Athlete in the world or the best athlete in the world, 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.680 if you are a biological male, you simply shouldn't be 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:58.920 competing against biological women. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.920 You're absolutely But some people have jumped on the fact 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.200 that Petrillo was knocked out in the semi finals, so 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.520 see that proves there's not a great advantage. 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.520 But they forget this person is fifty. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.480 Years old competing against young athletes who were like twenty 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.479 two to twenty three years old. So Petrillo is an 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.600 old woman competing against the young girls and still finishing 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:25.240 very very well. I say old woman in italics. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:28.720 But here's my favorite jul story. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.560 Right, Petillo says this, says, this is a dream that 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.840 I had since I was a little girl. But this 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:40.200 person only transitioned in his mid forties to become a woman, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.359 So I'm not sure how it was a dream that 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.120 he'd had since he was a little girl. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:45.720 And then the way he talks. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.199 He says that anybody who criticizes him, he describes him 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.800 as quote unquote on the same level as Hitler, and 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.639 then goes on to talk about how trans people are dying. 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.640 And this is the manipulation, right, that if you disagree 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.960 with me, then people are going to die, so you 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.040 better not say anything because if you do, they'll be 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.240 blood on your hands and you'll be as bad as Hitler. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.520 And if this was logical, if this was sensible, if 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.680 this was scientific, you wouldn't need to resort to that 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:17.280 kind of rhetorical manipulation and guilt tripping in order to 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:18.600 make your argument. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:24.120 The raging narcissism it takes. Because let's all remind ourselves, 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.840 we're talking about the Para Olympics this time, okay, So 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.480 for anyone to make it to the Para Olympics. They 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.240 have overcome obstacles the likes of which you and I 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:40.560 cannot possibly imagine. I was watching an armless archer from 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.840 India just today. The name is she Tel Debbie, and 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.439 jaws hit the floor around the world as this incredible 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:54.080 human being laced up this archery bow using her feet 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.960 and shot a bullseye on the first go. That is 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.240 the kind of inspiration, that is the kind of grit 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.320 that is that it makes you tear up to watch 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:09.600 some of these absolute legends who've had to apply themselves 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.440 to a certain craft in a way that an able 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.160 bodied person, no matter how hard we try, will never 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.240 be able to reach those heights of the grit, the 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.840 determination it takes to stick to something and get that 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:26.800 good at it despite all obstacles. So you make it 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:31.120 to the Para Olympics, this is your moment. You've trained 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.399 year in, year out for it, You've overcome whatever your 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.399 disability may be, and you've still got. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.000 To overcome this. You're not even given a fair. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:46.320 Goal because some raging narcissist is like, no, my dream 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.560 of being recognized as the sex that I am not 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.680 is more important than the blood, sweat and tears that 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:57.080 you have pushed through and overcome to make it to 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.399 this momentous occasion in your life. To me, this is 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:04.520 more disgusting than the average ones that we talk about, 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.119 where there's men on this women's team, women are getting 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.000 her whatever the case may be. We talk about these 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:14.080 cases often. This for me is the apex of that, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.600 because I'm like, are you kidding me? The para Olympians 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.640 have to put up with this as well well. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.280 I remember the International Olympic Committee boss saying if only 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.720 someone could come up with, you know, a scientific test 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.840 to determine male from female, and so we awaked with 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.200 baited breath for someone to work out having old chromosomes 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.800 the difference. Of course, the media are having trouble telling 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.640 the difference. An incredible story about a serial sex offender 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.640 who's serving time in a New South Wales jail, yet 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.920 he's being referred to in the media as a female 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:51.960 after identifying as a woman while in prison. Dean Angus Bell, 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.480 thirty one years old, was jailed for a range of 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.359 child sex offenses, grooming a thirteen year old boy for 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:03.600 sex abuse, use, offering a thirteen year old boy, cigarettes, drugs, 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.760 and one hundred dollars for sex and then after being 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.040 released from jail, continuing to contact that thirteen year old 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:15.400 boy again pursuing sex. Now in prison, Dean Angus Bell 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:19.640 is running a child abuse ring, distributing child abuse material 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.960 to other inmates, so clearly an unsavory character. But Dean 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:29.399 has now started identifying as Jessica. Jessica Isabelle Rose. He 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.600