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Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this
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Speaker 1: We extend our respect to any First Nations, Aboriginal and
Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander people joining us.
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Speaker 2: leave from Benguelas and I'll ever tamed down your stream?
Speaker 3: Is that how I start on this episode today? Oh?
Speaker 3: I'm Britney Saunders and.
Speaker 4: I'm all right hey, and this is High Strollers, the
Speaker 4: podcast version of your favorite group chat.
Speaker 1: If it's trending, going viral or has he gripped? We're
Speaker 1: talking about it.
Speaker 2: This week. We're God bankrupt. We're talking, We're talking bankruptcy. Baby.
Speaker 2: Now we're talking about a lot of things.
Speaker 4: Australian Fashion Week, influencers, influencers at events, What would happen
Speaker 4: if everything we had crumbled overnight.
Speaker 1: I've also got a new Spotify playlist that everyone has
Speaker 1: to listen to because I've decided that this is my favorite.
Speaker 3: Genre of music. Well it's two genres put together and.
Speaker 4: I'll let you know I agree. Plus, Britney has a
Speaker 4: new TikTok challenge for me.
Speaker 2: That I gave a go on. I think I killed it.
Speaker 4: To be honest, it may be the most boring thing
Speaker 4: we've ever done on the podcast.
Speaker 2: You be the judge of that deal. Me and Deel,
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 3: How are we feeling this morning, Matt?
Speaker 2: Are we really going for it? Are we?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: We're in well, I'm feeling I'm feeling great. Actually, I'm
Speaker 4: in the vestment and I just I feel alive. I
Speaker 4: feel fabulous.
Speaker 3: Do we need to change our records to like.
Speaker 2: Four pm on a Tuesday? Yes, because Monday and I
Speaker 2: am on a Monday is no longer working for alright.
Speaker 1: Hat I would think after this long, like how long
Speaker 1: we've been doing this podcast. Busy fuck off, We're gonna
Speaker 1: get in a fight one day, you know how we
Speaker 1: say we've never had a fight in our friendship.
Speaker 2: If you're busy and my busy are different levels of busy.
Speaker 2: Does not mean I'm not busy.
Speaker 1: The only requirement for you is for you to be
Speaker 1: excited on a Monday morning, which I know it's Monday morning,
Speaker 1: Like we have picked like not the best time, but
Speaker 1: still it's a great way to start the week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great way to start the week. I
Speaker 4: will admit, but I mean last week was just rotting
Speaker 4: for me. The shows are done, the live shows were
Speaker 4: urge success. It was all fabulous. Loved it, but I
Speaker 4: obviously the national tour went on selling out around the country. Fabulous.
Speaker 4: But I also gave myself like a week of just
Speaker 4: like literal bed rest, and which.
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of over the last year, haven't.
Speaker 4: I thank you Golstones and so I yeah, like my
Speaker 4: sleeping pattern's been off. I did nothing all weekend but
Speaker 4: like read books and I went up to the Central
Speaker 4: Coast and saw some family and had a birthday party.
Speaker 3: Get a bad o pub No, I didn't.
Speaker 2: We went to We went to tu Woum Bay for
Speaker 2: a one year old's birthday party though, which was fabulous. Yep.
Speaker 4: And I've always thought that, like, you know, birthday parties
Speaker 4: under the age of three not necessary.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed myself.
Speaker 4: It was more of like a catch up than a
Speaker 4: really you know, it wasn't really like a birthday bash.
Speaker 4: I was just happy to see my friends and make
Speaker 4: the trip up to the coast. But I've always been
Speaker 4: like a one year old birthday party, what's the point
Speaker 4: They're not going to remember it and we don't care.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't remember ours. But I think it's
Speaker 1: like more like the parents are excited that the baby
Speaker 1: has turned one kind of thing and depends on the
Speaker 1: kind of party, Like is it an excuse for the
Speaker 1: parents to all get pissed? Like does the party continue
Speaker 1: into the afternoon and evening? We not this one, because
Speaker 1: when I think back to my childhood, I swear like
Speaker 1: my only memories of my childhood was going to like
Speaker 1: birthday parties or like just barbecues at like mum and
Speaker 1: dad's friend's house and whatever. And we always thought it
Speaker 1: was for us, like when the moms and dads would
Speaker 1: all get together. But then as you get older, you
Speaker 1: learn it's because the parents want to get pissed. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's not about us running around the yard like
Speaker 1: having a good time playing Charmed, It's about the parents
Speaker 1: wanting Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was that your game of choice?
Speaker 3: Yes, make potions in a bowl out of rocks and stuff?
Speaker 2: So camped. Yeah, I can't remember what I was playing
Speaker 2: as a child.
Speaker 3: Oh we will play high five and fight over who
Speaker 3: we were.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, fair well.
Speaker 1: On the weekend, I did something that I honestly never
Speaker 1: thought I would do again. Yeah, I went to this
Speaker 1: thing in the Huna Valley.
Speaker 3: Called Lovedale Long Lunch.
Speaker 1: It happens every year and it's like six wineries in
Speaker 1: the Huna Valley put on this day and it's kind
Speaker 1: of just like a festival with live music kind of
Speaker 1: thing and you either go to two or three wineries
Speaker 1: and it's a good day or whatever. It was fucking
Speaker 1: freezing and it was for my cousins Hens.
Speaker 3: And then that.
Speaker 1: Finished at like four and we went back to Newcastle
Speaker 1: and then we went to one bar and then we
Speaker 1: went to another bar, and then I went to fucking
Speaker 1: King Street Hotel.
Speaker 2: Which is sorry, roll the clip.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have but in me anymore to
Speaker 1: party into the night. Like I'm a kind of early
Speaker 1: Let's do a five o'clock dinner. We can get white
Speaker 1: girl wasted that early and then you can be in
Speaker 1: bed by midnight, and to me, that is a good night.
Speaker 1: Nothing good happens after midnight, to be fair. We went
Speaker 1: really early, like when it had just opened, so I
Speaker 1: think it was like before nine pm that we got there,
Speaker 1: which was nice sometime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like no one was really there.
Speaker 1: The dance floor was pretty clear that DJ's were playing
Speaker 1: good music, and I did leave at midnight as well,
Speaker 1: like it's you know, I said to you the other day,
Speaker 1: like I can't do the going out until four am
Speaker 1: thing anymore. But I went to King Street Hotel, which
Speaker 1: is like one of the I think it is the
Speaker 1: biggest night club in Newcastle. And I hate to admit it,
Speaker 1: but it was actually a good time. But I think
Speaker 1: it's because I was in good company, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, it's who you're with, and AJ wasn't there,
Speaker 1: so that's why I had so much fun.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, nice. Nice.
Speaker 1: He's sitting in the studio with us today, so we're
Speaker 1: going to see if we can segue AJ into the
Speaker 1: episode at any point.
Speaker 2: We might get anyone close friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I went.
Speaker 1: I went clubbing, and what was really embarrassing was the
Speaker 1: amount of people that I met out that would say
Speaker 1: to me, like so many girls saying, oh my god, I.
Speaker 5: Used to watch your YouTube videos when I was thirteen,
Speaker 5: and now they're like nineteen, and I'm like, I am
Speaker 5: thirty one and you're being like I used to.
Speaker 3: Watch you, and I'm like, I'm too fucking old to
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 4: You know what gets me was when someone goes like
Speaker 4: at my shows. I met a couple of people and
Speaker 4: they were like, you were our lives in year six.
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm going.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, I'm your grandma. Yeah he's going on here sick. Like,
Speaker 2: First of all, why are you watching me in year six?
Speaker 2: Your parents clearly neglected you if you were strolling my
Speaker 2: YouTube videos in year six? Second of all, are you
Speaker 2: even odd enough to be here?
Speaker 1: That's what I would say to these girls in the club,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I should not be here. I even
Speaker 1: said to some of them, you are not seeing me here?
Speaker 1: Like this is fucking embarrassing.
Speaker 2: It's a mirage.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So look, I I went back on my word.
Speaker 3: I went clubbing.
Speaker 1: I went through King Street of all places, but it
Speaker 1: was actually a good time and we just wanted to
Speaker 1: keep the Hen's party going, you know, like you don't
Speaker 1: want to call it a night when it's someone's Hens.
Speaker 1: You got to keep the vibes high. So that's what
Speaker 1: I did, and here we are.
Speaker 2: Have you been to a lot of Hen's parties, because I, like,
Speaker 2: I think I've only been to like maybe one or two,
Speaker 2: only one I can remember, And I'm just going to
Speaker 2: say two to keep it safe.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, maybe like five or so.
Speaker 4: My friend group is not a like marriage friend group.
Speaker 4: None of my friends are married.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like a lot of our friends are.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, but like I went to well, she's my
Speaker 1: step cousin, but I went to her hands and she's
Speaker 1: like twenty seven.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, to.
Speaker 1: Me, she's still twelve, So like, how are you getting married?
Speaker 1: Like I was saying that to him, like, how are
Speaker 1: you getting married? Like you're still twelve?
Speaker 2: To me? Was at my sister's hands when she got
Speaker 2: married years ago.
Speaker 3: Is sixteen?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, actually she's getting drunk.
Speaker 2: Come going, put that down. Well, it's time for our
Speaker 2: royal flush of the week.
Speaker 4: The best thing we've seen on the Internet this week
Speaker 4: Brittany kickersoft Blurse.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Mine is actually a Spotify playlist that I have become
Speaker 1: obsessed with and am playing NonStop. And I put it
Speaker 1: on in the car this morning and AJ was like,
Speaker 1: what the.
Speaker 2: Fuck is this? Oh God, here we go.
Speaker 3: Can you guess what kind of If you had.
Speaker 4: To guess, I'm gonna guess classical music like Beethoven because
Speaker 4: the reason that came to mine is because when I
Speaker 4: was growing up.
Speaker 2: As himself in the corner.
Speaker 4: Because when I was growing up, my friend would pick
Speaker 4: me up for school and she would be playing Beethoven.
Speaker 1: Is that say that, by the way, because I've never
Speaker 1: known how to say that word. I don't know Beethoven
Speaker 1: bait Hoven.
Speaker 4: But anyway, the point is she would pick me up
Speaker 4: for school and Beethoven would be playing, and we would
Speaker 4: drive to school and I would always be like, what, babe,
Speaker 4: what is like?
Speaker 2: You're not quirky, You're not that girl? What reason?
Speaker 5: She's like?
Speaker 2: It just really calms me down and gets me in
Speaker 2: the mood for school. I'm like, do you have the plague?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What is going is this the eighteen fifties? Like what
Speaker 2: is going on? Well, I'm like, what do you whan?
Speaker 2: It calms you down and gets you in the mood
Speaker 2: for what babe? We don't have history first period? So
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 4: So that's that's why that came, because that's the most
Speaker 4: obscure like music taste.
Speaker 2: I feel like there could be but am I way off?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're way off.
Speaker 1: It's not Beethoven. I've never known how to say that word,
Speaker 1: so we could be butchering.
Speaker 2: That Okay, should I keep guessing or you're just going
Speaker 2: to tell me?
Speaker 3: If you had to have one more guest.
Speaker 1: Like the genre, I'd say like pop goes punk, yes,
Speaker 1: oh it is, yeah, sunny. So my favorite Spotify playlist
Speaker 1: at the moment is rock covers of popular songs, and
Speaker 1: I think, like, I'm just a pop girly, Like that's like,
Speaker 1: whenever I'm listening to music, I'll just put on a
Speaker 1: Top fifty or Ariana Grande Radio, Sabrina Carpenter Radio. But
Speaker 1: this is my favorite genre of music because it's all
Speaker 1: of our favorite songs. It's like, yeah, Ariana Grande, your
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, like every single popular song, but it's like rock.
Speaker 1: Some of them are a bit too screamer and I
Speaker 1: have to skip them.
Speaker 3: Like work me up. But otherwise great playlist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a pop ghoes punk girly as well.
Speaker 3: I would highly recommend it.
Speaker 2: I discovered it in like two thousand and nine at
Speaker 2: high school and it became my entire personality. That's the
Speaker 2: one that's what actually got me into my emo phase.
Speaker 1: Well, when I was in year eight or nine and
Speaker 1: I did music, we had to do a project on
Speaker 1: our favorite band and I did a full project on Evanescence.
Speaker 4: I'm upset you're That's one of the most unhinged things
Speaker 4: about you is like Brittany is like the biggest Evanescence
Speaker 4: fan ever ever, and like she doesn't really like like
Speaker 4: you know me, I'm like, Letty Gaga is my hero,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm like.
Speaker 3: Like is my hero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like evan Essence is.
Speaker 4: Brittany's like weird guilty pleasure that she like loves And
Speaker 4: before Taylor Swift, they were like the only concet you'd
Speaker 4: ever been to.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's just so unhinged. But no, wonder you wear
Speaker 2: those shoes. That makes sense?
Speaker 3: Now fuck off you said you like them?
Speaker 2: I do like them?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, anyway, everyone look up that playlist. It's really good,
Speaker 3: some of me.
Speaker 2: So, what's the name of it? Sorry?
Speaker 3: It's literally rock covers of popular songs, sere you go.
Speaker 1: It's seven hours and twenty two minutes, and it's like
Speaker 1: all of our favorite songs but made like rock and
Speaker 1: metal and punk, and I really love it.
Speaker 3: That gets me in the mood for life. Yeah not classical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm with you on that. That's a good
Speaker 2: role flush I can you approve? Agree? I approve, well
Speaker 2: my royal flush of the week.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw you went viral on TikTok. You
Speaker 3: how many views is that video right now?
Speaker 2: Two and a half million or something?
Speaker 4: Not much, But you know what's funny though, is like
Speaker 4: two and a half million views two years ago, I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm famous, I am killing it, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 2: But now that two point five.
Speaker 4: Million views are go this bitches out here again one
Speaker 4: hundred million for look at themselves in the mirror. So
Speaker 4: that's the worst thing as a content creator seeing someone
Speaker 4: just set up their phone and just lip sync for
Speaker 4: six seconds and it having like seven million likes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you need to start doing that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure in a crop top and gym shots. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was right out. Well I'll go viral, will go
Speaker 2: viral for the wrong reasons, babe, for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I made a TikTok because I saw my
Speaker 4: royal flush. The week is probably the fact that Sabrina Carpenter,
Speaker 4: obviously you've already heard a couple of weeks ago. I
Speaker 4: love the song espressso and I haven't stopped playing it
Speaker 4: still to this day. And she obviously is getting her
Speaker 4: coin at the moment, doing SNL, doing all the things Coachella.
Speaker 2: Really, I feel changed the trajectory of her career.
Speaker 1: I like her Ears Tour started it, and then Coachella
Speaker 1: like skyrocketed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what's so devastating is like at
Speaker 4: the Eras tour, I didn't really care for Sabrina Carpenter,
Speaker 4: and I that's one of my biggest regrets in life,
Speaker 4: because my friends loved her, Like Kate wanted to see her.
Speaker 4: My friend actually wanted to see her, but I was like,
Speaker 4: it's we were sitting where the sun was like blaring
Speaker 4: and it was so hot.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't sit in the sun. One
Speaker 2: don't want to get burnt, and two I'm in address
Speaker 2: and heels like it's a bit much. And then of
Speaker 2: course at our show that we went to, she didn't
Speaker 2: play because it got rained out, And so I kind
Speaker 2: of regret not just sitting through it and watching her
Speaker 2: because now I love her well.
Speaker 1: I feel like she will go on her own world too.
Speaker 1: I reckon in the next year or two, I should
Speaker 1: see it happening, surely.
Speaker 4: But anyway, she released a new EP because of the
Speaker 4: successive Espresso, and she called it the Espresso EP and
Speaker 4: basically I made a video about this. But it's an
Speaker 4: EP with one, two, three, four, five, six songs and
Speaker 4: they're all they're all Espresso. They're all Espresso, but different
Speaker 4: versions and it's really fun. So obviously she's just got
Speaker 4: the regular Espresso. Then she's got the Espresso Double Shot version,
Speaker 4: which is the sped up version, as if you've had
Speaker 4: double shot of coffee genius, We're already off to a
Speaker 4: great start. Then she's got the Espressio Espresso. She's got
Speaker 4: the Espresso on Vacation version, because the lyrics are on
Speaker 4: vacation it's karaoke.
Speaker 2: There's no lyrics, so it's just the backing.
Speaker 3: Track and you sing along to it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: You didn't want to, like have a go.
Speaker 2: No, that's fine, I think after the last time we
Speaker 2: sung on this fucking podcast and I loved it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe they were sucking up your ass, but not to me.
Speaker 4: I was hardened. Comments on the videos they were going,
Speaker 4: don't ever do that again. That one guy was real
Speaker 4: angry about it, shout out love you, But like one guy,
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: Like, do not ever do that again. That is the
Speaker 2: worst thing I've ever heard on a podcast.
Speaker 3: Ever, it was hilarious. Fuck off to that guy.
Speaker 2: Now, I'll let you be, I'll let you say that.
Speaker 2: I said from the start, this isn't working. This isn't working.
Speaker 2: But anyway, got forced into it as usual being here
Speaker 2: at ten OClO.
Speaker 1: That video that we did of us doing the karaoke,
Speaker 1: those original creators that started that, you know, like my
Speaker 1: Royal Flush was those people.
Speaker 3: They commented on it.
Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, so.
Speaker 3: They saw it. So there's another Royal Flush back to
Speaker 3: the ep sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then she's got the Espresso decaf version, which is slow,
Speaker 4: slow version, more reverb obviously decaf.
Speaker 2: You don't have any caffeine, so it's a slow version.
Speaker 2: I think that's genius. Then she's got the mo cappella version,
Speaker 2: which is just a cappella just the lyrics on, just
Speaker 2: the vocal only. Sorry.
Speaker 4: Then she's got the Espresso version, which is a very
Speaker 4: an extended mix of espresso. And I posted a video
Speaker 4: about this like as soon as it dropped, not even
Speaker 4: thinking anything of it, and it really took off straight
Speaker 4: away and so many people. What I love about TikTok
Speaker 4: is that like, yes, the videos are good, but the
Speaker 4: comments are better, And like on my video. People were
Speaker 4: then coming up with ideas for her. You know, she
Speaker 4: should release a club mix of the song and call
Speaker 4: it Espresso Martini.
Speaker 2: Yes. I think they had so many cool ideas, and
Speaker 2: that's what I kind of like. I mean, there's lots
Speaker 2: of things I don't like about TikTok, especially at the
Speaker 2: moment I feel like.
Speaker 4: My you know, you have your comment filters, yeah, and
Speaker 4: your comment section. So TikTok does this really weird thing
Speaker 4: for anyone who doesn't know, not weird thing. It's actually
Speaker 4: a good thing. But they do this thing where like
Speaker 4: it kind of senses if your profile has been leaving
Speaker 4: hate comments on other profiles, and also can just tell
Speaker 4: from the wording of your comment, it like.
Speaker 3: Flags it as a offensive comment, right, and then it puts.
Speaker 2: It in this folder way in the depths of our
Speaker 2: settings on TikTok, Like you've really got to search for
Speaker 2: it to get to it.
Speaker 3: I just don't go in there.
Speaker 2: Oh see. I mentally prepare for it, and then I
Speaker 2: just go through them all. Why And I don't know,
Speaker 2: because sometimes there's some actual nice comments in there that
Speaker 2: just kind of get.
Speaker 3: It's like they get marketers spam pretty much.
Speaker 1: Did you know that you can watch TikTok's offline no
Speaker 1: how life hack. You go into settings, so it's great
Speaker 1: if you're going on a flight. So I was flying
Speaker 1: to Melbourne the other week. You go into your settings
Speaker 1: and then you go down and you'll find a thing
Speaker 1: that's called offline Videos and it lets you download one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty minutes of video content. So you just
Speaker 1: click that it'll download them all. Then when you're on
Speaker 1: the plane and you've got your phone on airplane mode,
Speaker 1: you can watch those one hundred and twenty minutes of
Speaker 1: videos that you've downloaded. And that's awesome, especially if you're
Speaker 1: just flying to Melbourne or to Brisbane or whatever, because
Speaker 1: you'll spend the entire flight watching tiktoks.
Speaker 3: And when I did that the other week, it.
Speaker 1: Made me realize how much we actually watch TikTok for
Speaker 1: the comments. Because you're in aeroplane mode, you can't load
Speaker 1: the comments. So I'd be watching a TikTok and then
Speaker 1: I hit comments, but then it's like cannot load or whatever.
Speaker 1: And it also made me realize how much we don't
Speaker 1: actually watch the whole TikTok because I knew I had
Speaker 1: these one hundred and twenty tiktoks, and as you're watching
Speaker 1: them down the bottom, it tells you how many of
Speaker 1: the two hundred however many tiktoks it is, so I
Speaker 1: was like, they're consciously making sure.
Speaker 3: I try and watch the whole thing. But I did
Speaker 3: you want them to run out? Because you only get
Speaker 3: given those certain amount of videos, but God.
Speaker 2: Forbid, you just get given ten twelve to ten minute videos.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well they're all different lengths, luckily, but it made
Speaker 3: me realize, like there's a life hack for you all
Speaker 3: download tiktoks when you're going on a flight, but it's
Speaker 3: not as fun when you can't read the comments.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people have started getting angry because they comment being like,
Speaker 4: why are you deleting comments?
Speaker 2: But I'm not. It just goes into that thing. This
Speaker 2: girl commented the other day and was like, why you
Speaker 2: deleting comments? I've screenshotted all my comments and everyone knows
Speaker 2: now that you are deleting comments.
Speaker 4: I'm not deleting comments, babe. You're just a spam account
Speaker 4: in TikTok's heart. It's embarrassing, and all your comments are
Speaker 4: in my like comment section to approve anyway. I don't
Speaker 4: know why I decided to share that with you. I
Speaker 4: thought it was interesting, but as I said it, I went, fuck,
Speaker 4: this is fucking boring.
Speaker 2: Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Well, you know how much I love a physical challenge
Speaker 1: for us to do. We're not physical because we're going
Speaker 1: to stay seated, but you know, I like my face
Speaker 1: dropped when you said physical challenge. I went, sorry, we're
Speaker 1: going in, big brother. I saw this TikTok and I've
Speaker 1: seen it ages ago. I think it's like circling back
Speaker 1: around again and it's essentially eight different little sayings and
Speaker 1: you essentially have to try and say these phrases without
Speaker 1: coming across like sarcastic.
Speaker 3: Or like a bitch. So I thought we could do
Speaker 3: that today. So, Matt, I've just sent you the list.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm an actress, so I think I'll be really
Speaker 2: good at this.
Speaker 3: All right, you start, you do them all, you do
Speaker 3: all eight, and then I'll have a go and.
Speaker 4: One of those people that was well, like my friends
Speaker 4: always go like, I'll genuinely laugh at what they've said,
Speaker 4: and then they'll go that was the bitchiest laugh ever.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, that was a genuine laugh and they're
Speaker 4: like that was so fake. So I'm like scared that
Speaker 4: these I'm not going to be good at these, but
Speaker 4: you know I have to be good at everything, so
Speaker 4: I'll try my harder again with it.
Speaker 3: You've got eight sayings. Let's you say the more?
Speaker 2: Should I say all the sayings first? So these are
Speaker 2: the sayings that I have to say.
Speaker 4: That's great, good for you, have fun, fascinating, Thanks for that,
Speaker 4: good luck with that sounds thrilling.
Speaker 2: That's a shame.
Speaker 3: So let's start with number one. Okay, you have to
Speaker 3: be since here. Yeah, I got to be sincere.
Speaker 4: So you've just told me the most exciting thing ever.
Speaker 4: I'll be like, can I add words before?
Speaker 3: You got to say that?
Speaker 2: Okay, because I you know I would put it anyway.
Speaker 2: Here we go. Okay, that's great. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, let me try that's great. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was good as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you a tick for that one. This one.
Speaker 2: Number two? Good for you?
Speaker 3: Oh, that was, do it again?
Speaker 2: So I'd never say that though, like I never say
Speaker 2: good for you, say it again? Good for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon that was. I'd allow it to pass. Okay,
Speaker 3: let me try for that. Good for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's a very hard challenge. You
Speaker 2: were doing well with people on.
Speaker 3: TikTok are being sucking at this and they sound like
Speaker 3: so rude.
Speaker 2: Really, okay, maybe we're just genuinely nice people.
Speaker 1: Yeah we are.
Speaker 2: Next one is have fun.
Speaker 4: Okay, So how would I say this if you if
Speaker 4: you were see this is how I genuinely say this.
Speaker 4: But I reckon you will find it as sarcastic.
Speaker 2: I'd go have fun. Like on the phone, if someone
Speaker 2: was like, anyway, I gotta goh, blah blah, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: have fun. Yeah, that's fine, I'm slaying this challenge.
Speaker 3: Okay, my turn. I felt I'm just gonna say it
Speaker 3: exactly the same way as you though.
Speaker 2: We have fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, let me have a look at fascinating. It
Speaker 4: is probably a harder one to do. Again, I'd never
Speaker 4: say that. So how would I say it fascinating?
Speaker 5: That it was.
Speaker 3: Fascinating?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon, you have to go up fascinating. You
Speaker 3: were just crushing whoever's dreams. You were just saying that
Speaker 3: crumbling ox.
Speaker 2: Thanks for that. That's an easy one, I say. I
Speaker 2: feel like I say that all the time. Thanks for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 1: Okay, for the for the last three let's don't know,
Speaker 1: don't talk about it before, just say it.
Speaker 2: Good luck with that. Well that was bitchy. Good luck
Speaker 2: with that sounds thrilling.
Speaker 3: Sounds thrilling.
Speaker 2: That's a shame.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a shame.
Speaker 2: No, you put an all before it.
Speaker 4: You told me at the start on number one that
Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to put anything before it, and now
Speaker 4: you're throwing in consonants and veils.
Speaker 3: That's a shame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see that was buci.
Speaker 3: Well, I just think we're too good at that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're too nice.
Speaker 4: That's the challenges of you're seeing because that one was
Speaker 4: kind of a fail. Well, if you had to rate
Speaker 4: me out of ten for that, what would you give me.
Speaker 4: I'll give you an eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same Yeah, room for improvement, but slade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, there's always room for improvement,
Speaker 4: you know what. I one time someone told me a
Speaker 4: McDonald's one of my managers, because I was just so good.
Speaker 4: They had nothing to do, they had nothing to say, like,
Speaker 4: no critiques. They were just they just always had to
Speaker 4: say to me, like everyone else would get there, you know,
Speaker 4: not reports, but they'd be like, oh, these are all
Speaker 4: the things you can improve on with me, they'd just
Speaker 4: be like, well, you know, you can always be faster
Speaker 4: at things. Everyone can be faster, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And you can always be better. I was like, great,
Speaker 4: so there's nothing to improve on shore.
Speaker 3: That just made me think as well, you know, when
Speaker 3: you're in school and you would do your like the teacher.
Speaker 1: Parent thing and like when you get your report back,
Speaker 1: like I don't know if it I don't think it
Speaker 1: was just me.
Speaker 3: I think it was most kids. Why did teachers just
Speaker 3: always right needs to talk less? Like why is that
Speaker 3: the go to? Did you have that written on all
Speaker 3: your things from your teachers?
Speaker 2: Of course, but I think everyone did.
Speaker 3: Why do they write that for everyone?
Speaker 4: Surely they've got to, like, you know, the report system
Speaker 4: is just like click what applies and then it forms
Speaker 4: the paragraph for you.
Speaker 3: Surely they're using chat GPT for that shit now, Yeah, teachers,
Speaker 3: let us know.
Speaker 2: But also I saw this one thing on TikTok once
Speaker 2: that was like if you were told that you talk
Speaker 2: too much in class, what do you do now?
Speaker 3: You want to be successful?
Speaker 2: Get paid to do a podcast? So thanks for letting
Speaker 2: me talk back on that.
Speaker 3: All our teachers. That needs to stop talking and distracting classmates, look.
Speaker 2: At us exactly, speak on it, sister.
Speaker 4: Well, a couple of weeks ago Australian Fashion Week was happening,
Speaker 4: and you know, like most things, it takes a little
Speaker 4: while for people's opinions and things to hit the internet.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's instant, but like with Australian Fashion Week, it's
Speaker 4: actually kind of like it was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Is it over now?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is it done? I think it's I think was it
Speaker 2: like last week? Well, I think it's only one week, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: And a lot of people have a lot of opinions
Speaker 2: on Australian influences at fashion Week, and so I thought
Speaker 2: today we could first of all discuss what's been said online,
Speaker 2: what's been happening, and then second of all talk about
Speaker 2: our own fashion week experiences, because have you ever been
Speaker 2: to Fashion Week?
Speaker 3: I feel like I went once, but like I don't think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I went once and saw one show,
Speaker 1: but this was back when I was in my more
Speaker 1: YouTube days, and like I didn't even really understand what
Speaker 1: was going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, a really long time ago.
Speaker 2: Still donember before this, before it.
Speaker 3: Was really like an influencer thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So I only went when it was Mercedes
Speaker 2: Benz Fashion Week.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's when I went as well, Okay,
Speaker 1: and I just went and saw one runway show and
Speaker 1: that was it. But it was before, like I mean,
Speaker 1: people had probably always gone to get their content and whatever.
Speaker 1: This was before like TikTok was a thing or anything,
Speaker 1: so I don't really remember, and it definitely wasn't like
Speaker 1: the way it is now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I had this really cool video idea which I
Speaker 4: would still love to do at some point, although I'm
Speaker 4: telling it on a podcast now so it may not
Speaker 4: work as well. But when I was invited to that
Speaker 4: fashion week I went to, I did a video which
Speaker 4: never saw the light of day. I never ended up
Speaker 4: editing it and putting it up because it was around
Speaker 4: the same time that I stopped doing YouTube and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. Anyway, the video was wearing an entire outfit
Speaker 4: from Kmart to fashion week and seeing if anyone could
Speaker 4: clock it. And so I went to Kmart and literally
Speaker 4: spent like forty dollars on a head to toe outfit.
Speaker 4: The jacket, the shirt, the shorts, the everything was, even
Speaker 4: the shoes were It was all forty dollars, all up
Speaker 4: and wore that where everyone else is wearing designer clothing
Speaker 4: and dressed to the absolute nines. And my whole thing was,
Speaker 4: can anyone tell? Is anyone gonna say anything about it?
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna ask people and be like, how much
Speaker 4: do you think my outfit is worth? I made the
Speaker 4: whole video, I'd never posted it. Why, oh, just because
Speaker 4: it was just one of those things.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I was depressed at the time, dog like
Speaker 4: it was hard, so so I the video never saw
Speaker 4: the light of day. But I then never went back
Speaker 4: to fashion Week either. So the only time I've been
Speaker 4: Fashion Week, I've worn a forty dollar came outfit.
Speaker 1: And there has been a lot of discourse online about that,
Speaker 1: in particular from this fashion week.
Speaker 3: Yes of influences in particular.
Speaker 1: Going to fashion Week and then you which, by the way,
Speaker 1: like I didn't even know that it was coming up,
Speaker 1: like it's I'm in fashion and I'm so out of
Speaker 1: the fucking loop, Like I don't understand how fashion week
Speaker 1: works or anything like that. So I feel like it
Speaker 1: was an missed opportunity for me as a brand owner,
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what I should have done and
Speaker 1: what I think I should do next year is go
Speaker 1: there and interview people, but ask them questions about sizing
Speaker 1: in Australia because a lot of those brands that walk
Speaker 1: in those shows they only go to like a size
Speaker 1: what twelve fourteen, So I feel like to stir some controversy,
Speaker 1: I should do that next year for sure.
Speaker 2: Anyway, get me on the ground for the day.
Speaker 3: Let's go me and you.
Speaker 2: For sure, I would love to.
Speaker 1: Us interviews the brand owners asking why is there not
Speaker 1: enough diversity in fashion Week? So people have had a
Speaker 1: lot to say online since Fashion Week has come out.
Speaker 1: It now has really turned into more of an influencer thing.
Speaker 1: But I get it, like the influencers are going to
Speaker 1: get the exposure, which is what the brands want. But
Speaker 1: there's also been a lot of people saying that they're
Speaker 1: disappointed to see the lack of diversity in everyone being interviewed.
Speaker 1: It's like these PR companies and media companies go there
Speaker 1: and they interview people with their mini mic out the front,
Speaker 1: but it always seems to be the same type of
Speaker 1: influencer that they're interviewing, like someone who is really.
Speaker 3: Straight, sized and white.
Speaker 1: Yes, and people are like unders understandably pissed off about that.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of is people talking about influencers going there and just
Speaker 1: missing the mark when it comes to being able to
Speaker 1: promote the Australian designers and instead they're wearing glasses and
Speaker 1: Levisa jewelry and all that.
Speaker 3: Kind of stuff. That's what I've mainly been seeing online.
Speaker 2: Same.
Speaker 4: I also saw one of those videos of the mini
Speaker 4: mark videos, if that's what you want to call them of. Like,
Speaker 4: I forget which publication, but somebody was asking influencers do
Speaker 4: they do fast fashion? And the first thing I noticed
Speaker 4: as well is like they only asked women, was that
Speaker 4: where are the men? Let's ask the men these questions stelling?
Speaker 4: And also just because the men are wearing boring outfits, no,
Speaker 4: let's actually put them in the videos so that we
Speaker 4: can compare. Because the thing is, I feel like it's
Speaker 4: I always to women, right, But my thing is, if
Speaker 4: you've got nothing to compare it to, it's shit, right.
Speaker 4: Like so if the girl is wearing glassones, I don't
Speaker 4: know who, but whatever, say she's wearing all glassons, but
Speaker 4: then she's up against the other females who are wearing
Speaker 4: other things obviously everyone's gonna go, oh, the glassons chuck.
Speaker 4: A couple men in there wearing fucking whatever they're cash Tara,
Speaker 4: cash wy D whatever, Like do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Then maybe the focus won't be on the glasses. Maybe
Speaker 4: it'll be on the men wearing whatever they're wearing.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because I saw some ridiculous men's outfits as well, But
Speaker 4: like all these videos were focusing on the.
Speaker 3: Wa hitting women against women, right, And what.
Speaker 4: Pissed me off about the fast fashion thing is like
Speaker 4: it's like, no one wins with a conversation like that,
Speaker 4: Like the sizing thing. There's ways to win with that, yes,
Speaker 4: but no one wins with asking people do you support
Speaker 4: fast fashion and handing them the mic and then having
Speaker 4: them say this awkward thing. Like one girl was like, no,
Speaker 4: I don't support fast fashion at all. The other girl
Speaker 4: was like, I do to an extent because you know,
Speaker 4: cost of living and blah blah blah. And then the
Speaker 4: third girl was like, yes, I shot fast fashion because
Speaker 4: I am past size and there's no other options for us,
Speaker 4: Like do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like one right, yeah, right? That just like causes a
Speaker 2: commotion in the comments, and like, what's the result of
Speaker 2: you making that video? Like you got paid to go
Speaker 2: and do that.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the only reason they do it, Whereas I have.
Speaker 4: A meaningful conversation. So a lot of the content pissed
Speaker 4: me off. Actually, I was just like, this is why
Speaker 4: are we talking about the fashion Let's talk about the
Speaker 4: content coming from it.
Speaker 2: Black cluster baby, and this is what pissed me off.
Speaker 2: Get me down there.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get the best fucking Fashion Week video you've
Speaker 4: ever seen in your life.
Speaker 1: Can do it next year, like my fleet, Like I've
Speaker 1: never been part of this as a brand or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like I think to be a brand in Fashion Week
Speaker 1: you literally have to like pitch yourself to them and
Speaker 1: then pay a lot of money to be in it.
Speaker 1: So it's not this thing where like brand Like maybe
Speaker 1: brands are invited. But I remember years ago, in like
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we got invited to be in Miami Swim
Speaker 1: Week for Staple Swim. And this was when Staple Swim
Speaker 1: was like one year old and I was so young,
Speaker 1: and it was going to cost like twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: just to be in the show. So I think it
Speaker 1: would be the same sort of setup for Australian Fashion Week,
Speaker 1: like you would be paying tens of thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: to be in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah fuck, maybe I should, which like the exposure would
Speaker 3: be grey.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also is anyone talking about the designers?
Speaker 3: I think only people in the industry are because.
Speaker 2: Who does that help? What do you mean? Who does
Speaker 2: that help?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 4: Like, if Fate was to do a runway show and
Speaker 4: people in the industry are talking about Fate, that's all
Speaker 4: good and well, But like, instead the biggest brand to
Speaker 4: be spoken about that fashion Week is Glassons.
Speaker 2: They weren't even.
Speaker 3: There, I know, and they know they're the ones that
Speaker 3: have won essentially.
Speaker 1: But like I think the reason why fashion week started,
Speaker 1: like it's obviously changed a lot over the years and
Speaker 1: now it's all about the influencers and the content and
Speaker 1: the outfit. But what it is about to begin with
Speaker 1: is the Australian designers showing their unreleased collections for spring
Speaker 1: and summer that are yet to be released. And usually
Speaker 1: who used to go back in the day was people
Speaker 1: in media, people in magazines, publications and also buyers for
Speaker 1: companies and also stylists for companies so they could go
Speaker 1: look at the runway, see what's coming out, and then
Speaker 1: like pick things that they're going to use for upcoming shoots.
Speaker 3: And stuff like.
Speaker 1: That's what the whole premise of it was, but now
Speaker 1: it's turned into something completely different. So it's almost like
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be worth it for me
Speaker 1: to pay to have Fate walk in there, like we
Speaker 1: bloody should, and maybe we will one year. Never say never,
Speaker 1: but I think what would be more worth it would
Speaker 1: be to go there and get content, not even like
Speaker 1: on the runway, but like outside interviewing those people, but
Speaker 1: doing interviews in the right way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, And there's always like fun questions you
Speaker 4: can ask that aren't going to change the world. But
Speaker 4: I think I was just saying earlier that, like that
Speaker 4: that one about fast Fashion, I was like, who what
Speaker 4: is this doing?
Speaker 3: So next year we'll go Matt and interview people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, although I will say, you know, like everyone says
Speaker 4: influences insufferable at events and stuff like that, I have
Speaker 4: never really felt that way, to be honest, Like if
Speaker 4: I just go to random events and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: there's this like kind of social.
Speaker 2: Understanding or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the word is for that, but
Speaker 4: a lot of people think that like these influencer events
Speaker 4: are just like all like mean girls and everyone's trying
Speaker 4: to be better than one another and blah blahlah blah.
Speaker 4: I will say like, I never feel that way at
Speaker 4: influencer events, especially not in the last like five years.
Speaker 4: I feel like everyone kind of gets along and everyone
Speaker 4: just stays in their own lane and whatever.
Speaker 1: I think that's just the way it comes across on
Speaker 1: social media, right. I think it's people portraying it right
Speaker 1: to be that way. But I also heard as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the Beck and Bridge
Speaker 1: Show or something or another show, but did you hear
Speaker 1: like there was two influencers that apparently walked into the show,
Speaker 1: got a photo like inside, and then said let's go
Speaker 1: yeah or the show even started, which.
Speaker 2: I'm like, where's the proof.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I think people just make shit up about influencers
Speaker 4: because they know it'll get a bit of traction online.
Speaker 4: I'm like, not saying that didn't happen, Potentially it did. Also,
Speaker 4: who cares, Like if their job, like you said, the
Speaker 4: stylists and the blah blah blah, well, their job is
Speaker 4: to sit there and see what to put in their collection.
Speaker 4: The influencer's job is to get their photos, promote the brand,
Speaker 4: and go. If they've done their job, why are they
Speaker 4: sitting there. They're not getting paid probably to be there,
Speaker 4: so they've done their job.
Speaker 2: Oh, way they go.
Speaker 4: If it was a stylist, no one would care. Now,
Speaker 4: if a stylist was sitting in the front round and
Speaker 4: said I need to go and get some lunch, no
Speaker 4: one would black bat an eyelid. But because it's an influencer,
Speaker 4: oh big issue. But what I will say, though, is
Speaker 4: because this is about to contradict myself, what I will
Speaker 4: say is I was saying influencer events, I don't feel
Speaker 4: that way. Fashion Week's a different fucking story. Fashion Week
Speaker 4: everyone is insufferable. Everyone is insufferable. I can't even because
Speaker 4: now that when we were talking, I also realized that
Speaker 4: the Mercedes Men's Fashion Week that I went to with
Speaker 4: the KM up thing that did happen. But I did
Speaker 4: go to a carriage works one as well, because the
Speaker 4: other one was at Luna Park, Right, I did go
Speaker 4: to a carriage works one as well, and I just
Speaker 4: thought everyone here has such a heightened sense of importance,
Speaker 4: and I got it.
Speaker 3: It is it giving a bit like hunger games. It's
Speaker 3: giving a bit hunger games.
Speaker 1: Vibe likes the best of the best, seeing who's the
Speaker 1: best dress, Everyone's standing around everyone trying to get a photo.
Speaker 1: Like the whole I don't know, the social aspect of
Speaker 1: it does give off hunger games.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: We'll go so well, we'll come up with a plan yep,
Speaker 3: and we'll smash it.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: What could we ask all the influencers something real basic
Speaker 4: like what would happen if you didn't do influencing as
Speaker 4: a job and see what they come.
Speaker 3: Up with a good question to actually ask influences on
Speaker 3: the spot. Yeah, what would you do?
Speaker 2: Matt?
Speaker 1: Like just say hypothetically because I always think about this hypothetically.
Speaker 1: This afternoon, you go home, your Instagram is deleted. Instagram
Speaker 1: has been deleted. Let's say social media has a downfall.
Speaker 1: You cannot start a new account like TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Snapchat,
Speaker 1: the whole lot.
Speaker 3: It's gone. What are you genuinely doing and this happens
Speaker 3: this afternoon?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to work out what's going on for starters.
Speaker 3: Well, social media has just been banned, so it's gone.
Speaker 2: Yep, the government's gone.
Speaker 1: We can't even Yeah, we can't even like start a
Speaker 1: new business for example, to say, if I lost fate
Speaker 1: and everything I got, oh just start another one, like
Speaker 1: start from scratch again.
Speaker 3: We're not allowed to do that.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, going back to my old life, have been
Speaker 4: a DJ, put on a bit of makeup, be a
Speaker 4: drag queen again, and do.
Speaker 2: You think the comedy shows do you reckon?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: The funny thing that I always think as a business
Speaker 1: owner is like, my business couldn't exist without social media now,
Speaker 1: And I often think back to before social media and
Speaker 1: the fact that businesses existed and how the fuck did
Speaker 1: they Like they would have had to have relied on
Speaker 1: newspaper and word of mouth to have their businesses. So
Speaker 1: like to say, if you like, if social media disappeared
Speaker 1: and then you were to go back to being a
Speaker 1: DJ and doing drag, do you think those careers could
Speaker 1: be as successful today without social media?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure, that's but it's totally different because yeah,
Speaker 2: I just message all the old clubs that I used
Speaker 2: to DJ out and be like, hey babe, need some geeks,
Speaker 2: and away we go and then drag.
Speaker 1: If anything, maybe those careers in particular and venues and
Speaker 1: stuff like that would be more busy if social media
Speaker 1: didn't exist, because people would not be just at home
Speaker 1: on their.
Speaker 4: Phones probably, And then what else did I say, comedy shows? Well,
Speaker 4: that's easy, just going to like local comedy bars.
Speaker 1: I reckon that would be good for the comedy and
Speaker 1: entertainment industry if social media didn't exist, because we wouldn't
Speaker 1: be watching shit at home.
Speaker 3: We'd want to go out and have a laugh.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when the only time that we ever
Speaker 1: got to see funny videos was like the one night
Speaker 1: a week that funny home videos was on. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was TikTok before TikTok was a thing, and that
Speaker 1: was the only chance that we got to see funny videos.
Speaker 2: And did you ever send any funny videos in no?
Speaker 5: Did you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We did.
Speaker 4: They never got on TV. But remember they'd say five
Speaker 4: hundred dollars, They give you five hundred dollars if.
Speaker 2: They aired your video.
Speaker 3: Oh okay.
Speaker 2: And so I was like, well, we're making fake funny
Speaker 2: videos because I'm a cash graber from wayback, and I
Speaker 2: was sending in the funniest time.
Speaker 3: You're on the top of the inflatable pool at bat obey.
Speaker 2: No, but this is when I was like a literal
Speaker 2: child with the home V What did you call V no?
Speaker 2: No vcr no?
Speaker 3: What do you aj?
Speaker 2: The old little handheld video recorders? And yeah, you'd have
Speaker 2: to put it on a tape like a video tape
Speaker 2: and put it in a parcel bag and ship it
Speaker 2: to Crow's Nest. Channel nine and.
Speaker 1: Everything crows nest, like you know when you watch everything
Speaker 1: and it's like, do you want to send a video
Speaker 1: to your favorite neighbors? Cart send it a po box
Speaker 1: crows nest? Like why Crow's nest?
Speaker 5: I don't know?
Speaker 1: And why do I always picture like actual nests with
Speaker 1: crows when I think of that place.
Speaker 2: If you asked me to locate Crow's Nest on a map,
Speaker 2: I could not do it.
Speaker 3: I don't know where it is.
Speaker 1: Really, it's like you take the hornsby exit and then
Speaker 1: you go towards Sydney and then it's like left, like towards.
Speaker 3: The northern beaches kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I just picture like trees and crows nests,
Speaker 1: Like why is it called that?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 4: But that is so funny that everywhere his Crow's nest
Speaker 4: as a kid, Wow, yeah, So what would you do
Speaker 4: if everything went buster, and I'll give you your scenario.
Speaker 4: Social media's gone obviously the same as me, which sits
Speaker 4: hard though, because your business would still kind of go
Speaker 4: for a little bit. I'm saying, something needs to happen
Speaker 4: where all your businesses have shut down. Bankruptcy, baby, Yes,
Speaker 4: I would have to do.
Speaker 1: Clear, I would have to declare bankruptcy, which would not
Speaker 1: be fun. And then I reckon, you know what I reckon,
Speaker 1: I'll do. I would say, AJ, go back to being
Speaker 1: an electrician and you are paying for both of our
Speaker 1: lives and I'm staying home.
Speaker 3: Really fuck it?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah I could. That's fair.
Speaker 3: I think the skills that I have learned, that's fair.
Speaker 1: Like he would have to support us bies because I've
Speaker 1: been my own boss now for so many years, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever go back to having
Speaker 1: someone else telling me what to do. But in saying
Speaker 1: that as well, and I often say to AJ, I think,
Speaker 1: with everything that I have done in my business and
Speaker 1: career now, i feel like I'm overqualified to do any
Speaker 1: job in my kind of field.
Speaker 3: And I said, like, could I then go and become
Speaker 3: the CEO of another company? Like because I am?
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, I wouldn't know how to do
Speaker 1: that because I only know how to be the CEO
Speaker 1: of Fate. So I could go work for some other
Speaker 1: business or something. But I'm not fucking starting at the bottom,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. But I think I would just say,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm going to be a lady of leisure.
Speaker 1: AJ go back to be an electrician. Pick up the
Speaker 1: tool bag.
Speaker 3: You're going back to climbing under houses and pulling cables.
Speaker 3: And I'm just going to sit at home and like
Speaker 3: clean the house and be bankrupt.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Can you not travel when you're bankrupt or something?
Speaker 2: Now you can only travel for work, So there's a loophole.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you can't. You can't leave the country
Speaker 4: if you're bankrupt, you can't. But if it's for work purposes,
Speaker 4: you can.
Speaker 3: But it's only for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 2: I think like seven years.
Speaker 3: Seven years. Have you looked up looked into this mat Yeah?
Speaker 4: Baby, not because I needed to be bankrupt, But there's
Speaker 4: just you know, some people who have gone bankrupt and
Speaker 4: I'm like, wonder what that means.
Speaker 3: But if you declare bankruptcy, I don't know anything about this.
Speaker 1: Just say you've got like hundreds of thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: a debt, like you owe money and whatever. If you
Speaker 1: declare bankruptcy, is it just all wiped like as easy
Speaker 1: as that, or do you have to pay it back
Speaker 1: or how the fuck does that work?
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's all wiped. You've said I cannot
Speaker 2: afford to do this, and they've gone, okay, we'll clear
Speaker 2: all of that.
Speaker 4: And but what is where does that money go that
Speaker 4: you know nowhere that other people lose there in Like
Speaker 4: if someone invests in you one hundred thousand dollars and
Speaker 4: then you go bankrupt, they lose the one hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 4: that's it, and you are cleared of paying back that
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Depends who you've got investment by, you might end up
Speaker 2: dead dull.
Speaker 4: But like you know, they don't get their money back
Speaker 4: like you, I've got no investors and so then but
Speaker 4: then they punish you by seven years of you can't travel,
Speaker 4: you can't.
Speaker 1: Get you can't have a But I think that's when
Speaker 1: people do sneaky shit and like set up businesses in
Speaker 1: other people's.
Speaker 3: Names and trusts and all this kind of stuff. Probably, well,
Speaker 3: I'm safe either way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I don't actually bankrupt, like that's
Speaker 2: actually crazy.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually more common than we think, right,
Speaker 1: I've seen a few tiktoks pop up of people even
Speaker 1: around our age, that have made like the thing is
Speaker 1: like it's so easy to financially fuck yourself up, like
Speaker 1: you're just a few decisions away in life from being
Speaker 1: in that position.
Speaker 3: And I've seen a few.
Speaker 1: I should have saved them, but I've seen a few,
Speaker 1: like Australian people post to TikTok talking about how they
Speaker 1: had to declare bankruptcy and they're just normal everyday people,
Speaker 1: probably around the same age as us, and I guess
Speaker 1: they're spreading awareness to talk about how there is this
Speaker 1: like stigma around going bankrupt, but it is more common
Speaker 1: than you think, like people that have just got one
Speaker 1: too many credit cards or something like that.
Speaker 3: I think it's more common than you think, but it
Speaker 3: would be scary, which.
Speaker 2: Like I get it, but I'm also like open discussion here,
Speaker 2: not trying to victim blame, but I'm like, is there
Speaker 2: really nothing else you could have done but go bankrupt?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? I know that's shit.
Speaker 1: I think it's people like making a handful of bad mistakes,
Speaker 1: like all on top of one another, like bad decisions,
Speaker 1: like especially being in my position, I can see how easily,
Speaker 1: like I could very easily like fuck this stuff up
Speaker 1: in like the matter of a week, Like you just
Speaker 1: have to make a few bad choices and you could
Speaker 1: send yourself backwards. So I can see how anyone could
Speaker 1: do that. And I reckon credit cards would play a
Speaker 1: huge part in it. Just people just going I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get a ten or like personal loans, like people
Speaker 1: that go and get like a fifteen grand loan for
Speaker 1: a holiday and then they get a credit card to
Speaker 1: spend on the holiday, and like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they've wound up in all this debt.
Speaker 3: I think doing that would be really easy.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, like they could have made some smarter decisions,
Speaker 1: But I think it's just people.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just think, like then applying for bankruptcy
Speaker 4: or whatever that would be is so drastic.
Speaker 3: Like I feel like there's maybe it's a panic.
Speaker 4: Just in Yeah, in my opinion, I'm like, aren't there
Speaker 4: a hundred other pathways you could take before bankruptcy? I'm
Speaker 4: all for if that's what you have to do, do it.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to like victim blame and be like,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, shut I down other things. But also
Speaker 4: at the same time, I'm like, if I was in
Speaker 4: that position and I had like, let's say, fifty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars worth of credit card debt, I'm going, what is
Speaker 4: my plan here? I would I never are like as
Speaker 4: much as I could, Like, obviously it's a last resort
Speaker 4: thing for these people, I get it, But like, I'm
Speaker 4: just thinking if I was in that position where I
Speaker 4: was like, shit, I've got no money and I've got
Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars worth of debt, my instinct, no matter
Speaker 4: how many people said it's probably a good idea to
Speaker 4: go bankrupt and like claim bankruptcy. No matter how many
Speaker 4: people told that to me, I would still be like, no,
Speaker 4: I've got to scrape this money from somewhere, Like we
Speaker 4: get in a second job or we getting the third job,
Speaker 4: and I'm going back to the DJ drag life as
Speaker 4: well as everything else.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, that's just me personally. I'm just
Speaker 4: like to claim because of the seven year thing, imagine
Speaker 4: not leaving the country for seven years.
Speaker 1: Well, they're probably not going to leave the country for
Speaker 1: seven years anyway because they don't have the money to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so funny. But isn't it funny that people with
Speaker 2: no money always gone somewhere? Aren't they? My friends? My
Speaker 2: friends who you're like, I've got no money, I've got
Speaker 2: no money. Yeah, there going off on a holiday every
Speaker 2: bloody die. I'm like, I thought you couldn't even come
Speaker 2: for dinner last week. Now suddenly you're in bloody Monica. Like,
Speaker 2: let's call it. What's going on? Their love?
Speaker 4: But anyway, Like, I know that some of our scrollers
Speaker 4: might have been bankrupt, and I hope that conversation didn't
Speaker 4: upset you.
Speaker 2: But I'm genuinely curious, and that's just my I think
Speaker 2: it's one of those.
Speaker 1: Things that we don't talk about or you don't hear about.
Speaker 1: You just see the word bankruptcy and you think, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that is so extreme. But look at you
Speaker 1: look it up on TikTok, because I've seen people talking
Speaker 1: about it saying it's not as bad as you think.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to say that. Don't take that
Speaker 1: as advice. But I've seen people trying to normalize it
Speaker 1: and say it's more common than you think, and it's
Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 3: But don't take that advice from me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but look it up fair, I'll have to
Speaker 2: do some research. Go google Girl.
Speaker 3: Another episode done and dusted, yeap.
Speaker 2: And we got to clear up a few things. We're
Speaker 2: going to clear up a few things.
Speaker 4: Actually I was only going to clear one thing, but
Speaker 4: I'm about to throw you under the bus and clear
Speaker 4: up a couple. First of all, screen time. I think
Speaker 4: it was last week. I was saying my screen time
Speaker 4: was like four hours or something like that, and I
Speaker 4: was like, no one's gonna beat me. Hundreds of people
Speaker 4: beat me, some people with the screen time of two
Speaker 4: hours and twenty eight minutes.
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: I need to know more about your life?
Speaker 3: Can I aspire to be that?
Speaker 1: Like I know here at my scrollers, we're all about
Speaker 1: like fuck it, let's I'm for fifteen hours on average.
Speaker 1: But I do look at people that have like two
Speaker 1: hours screen time and think they've probably got a really
Speaker 1: clear mind.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, surely that's impossible.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're reading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they're reading.
Speaker 4: But I'm also reading and did my life shows and
Speaker 4: was hardly on my phone for the whole time and
Speaker 4: only got to four hours and four and a half
Speaker 4: hours or whatever. It was the amount of people who
Speaker 4: literally DMed me and was like, I beat your screen time,
Speaker 4: and like majority of them were three hours, a lot
Speaker 4: of them were two hours, and they were all like,
Speaker 4: what's my prize.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Let you know this shout out, shout out to you.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I was gonna give them a handshake. Reckon,
Speaker 4: that's a pretty good prize. Give your handshake. Congrats if
Speaker 4: that is you.
Speaker 1: And if your screen time is like two or three hours,
Speaker 1: you need to DM us yeah and say like what
Speaker 1: are you doing all day?
Speaker 2: Just like even though I'm thinking nurses doing eighteen hour shifts,
Speaker 2: which fair good on them.
Speaker 3: Yeah bo, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Surely they're still on their phones at some point throughout
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Surely they're gone, I've had enough of this shit. They're
Speaker 4: gone standing in a broom closet and watching tiktoks. The
Speaker 4: page is beeping and they're gunnah too bad, I'm having
Speaker 4: me time, you know. But the other thing we wanted
Speaker 4: to clear up is was it on our close friends
Speaker 4: we were talking about our block list? Yeah, Okay, So
Speaker 4: the other day, Brittany and I were talking about if
Speaker 4: you haven't listened to the Close Friends episode, go and
Speaker 4: listen to the Close Close Friends episode about who we
Speaker 4: talk about, who's on our blocklist, and who's blocked us.
Speaker 4: So Brittany the other day spoke about an influencer who
Speaker 4: had blocked her, and the whole time she was talking.
Speaker 2: About that influencer, I was thinking of someone in particular
Speaker 2: who had blocked Brittany. The other day.
Speaker 4: We had a conversation and Brittany I mentioned the person's name,
Speaker 4: and Brittany said, that's not who I was talking about.
Speaker 4: I was talking about this other person, and I the
Speaker 4: whole time was talking about a different influencer who has
Speaker 4: also blocked Brittany, and she.
Speaker 3: That whole episode, you thought I was talking about someone else.
Speaker 1: Yes, because we never actually said because I just thought
Speaker 1: you fucking knew who I was talking about.
Speaker 2: So there's one.
Speaker 4: The one in the episode we said, has has you booked?
Speaker 4: And then I'm blocked. But the one that I was
Speaker 4: talking about has not unblocked.
Speaker 3: You too, Still blocked by that person, I think I
Speaker 3: will be forever.
Speaker 2: So the thing is a lot of people were guessing
Speaker 2: who it was and things are. I was sending dms
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and what's what's happened though, is
Speaker 2: they're so far off. And I thought, why they so
Speaker 2: far off? It's because you're telling one story and I'm
Speaker 2: telling the other story, and our stories haven't matched, and
Speaker 2: so it's directed it in a direction that was just
Speaker 2: out of you know.
Speaker 3: So it's someone else, So everyone.
Speaker 4: Keep anyway, just thought clear that up. Thanks for listening
Speaker 4: to this episode, right, it's five stars and.
Speaker 3: All the rest of that, and we'll see you on
Speaker 3: Friday for close friends.
Speaker 2: Anyway, darl I better let you go. I think I've
Speaker 2: got a declar bankruptcy