WEBVTT - ‘HE'S NOT WORTH $1.4M!’: Mick & Readie blow up over injury-prone Latrell Mitchell | Round 14 Preview 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.480 We've got to the COVID n r L show. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:09.840 Dave Ricky oh here with Brent Reed and Michael carry 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:14.400 onass as always, fellas as always, Thursday Night Rugby. 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.880 Already, Dave. I'm in a bad mood already. I'm not 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.000 saying why what did I get to Thursday night? 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:22.400 Where are they playing? 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:22.799 This game? 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.160 Was Pine's Park? 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:25.320 Right? 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.680 Good news for Manley fans with Karen Forren getting that contract, 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.640 three year deal the head coach of the Manly Seagulls. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.360 Do you reckon? Do you reckon? There's a chance of 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:37.720 I don't know. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.000 The air coming out of the balloon tonight. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.239 No, I don't think I like souse injury rubbage right, 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.800 So they've got a lot of blokes help speak to 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.920 Brena Smith. Murray's back from Origin for fear To helps 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.440 big time because he was in a really good form 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.480 before that. So yeah, it brings it back to But 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.039 I don't think there's a I don't think this Manly 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:05.920 side is going to have a lull. I just don't see. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:07.840 They're going to obviously lose games, right, We're going to 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.040 see that. I don't know if I don't think they'll 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:11.800 finish in the top four, but they look like a 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.880 side that's going to finish and play finals. Foot from 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:14.720 mine for now. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.039 The South Sun runkout siders in this game. For me, 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:18.840 it wouldn't surprise me to all when they're a good 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:23.000 football team. They're missing Latreil obviously, but Brandon makes you. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.680 Mick mentioned Dave for feeder brand As smithsy huge in 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.760 for South as well, really good footballer. So I would 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.360 not shock me if South won this game. I think manly. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.120 I tip manly, but as I said, wouldn't shock me. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:36.640 I'm not ruling it out. Dave. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.640 I tell you who I've burned him Press boys Clayton. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.200 They're trying to extend him now too, aren't they. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.320 Yeah, they are definitely. They spoke around there and the 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:49.320 Jake Cavarello market, but backed out of that because of 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.320 Clayton's form essentially and how good he's been since. You know. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:53.800 It was a big call from Kieran four and to 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.040 move Toller Cohler from full back because he was showing 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.880 really good signs. But obviously fall saw some been in 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.240 Paull l'allo and pushed him back there and he's been 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:03.960 outstanding it. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:08.640 And Leo is a fullback option he could have gone to. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.079 It's an interesting dilemma for him when Tommy comes back 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.359 in two weeks. Expect him back after the buy right. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.400 Alo probably deserves to be in the team, So I'm 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.320 he's got to try and find a space from there. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:21.440 There's not an obvious one. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.280 I don't think there's a spot for him. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.239 He may need to come off the bench, so you 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.320 should make a big call. And I was going to 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.200 say drop Ruben Garret, But he's not going to do that, 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.360 is he? So you know, I don't know where he 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:32.840 fits in. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.600 So are you saying are you saying the mainly Seguls 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.799 are in contract talks to rees on full what is 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.720 What does that mean for the roster? 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.760 Well, Ruby Garrett, that's really already said. Ruby Garrek won't 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.040 be there next year. So they've been on the lookout 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.120 for an outside back. But maybe Clayton feels that spot 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.840 and we moved from fullback to center. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.880 Yeah, he's played a bit of wing and I think 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.920 he's played a bit of center anyway, isn't he? So 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.280 you know it's a logical one for me. He's shown 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:02.520 no impact on Lehigh. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.600 Well, the other center option is Tommy. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:05.600 Yeah. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.880 Well Bozz has said from day one Tommy will be 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.919 his fullback and I don't think he's going to change that. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.160 I mean the option is put on the bench and 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:14.760 Leo of the centers. I mean he could do that 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.440 as well, because Leo's played some center, so he's got 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.640 options there. Dave, you know, there's good He doesn't have 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.639 to create a spot for the guy. A spot will 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.919 naturally organically open up for him. And Ruben Garrett. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:32.960 Leaves just on the Bunnies funny team. And I know 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:37.680 they were injury ravaged, but they're not. They need this one. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.440 They need to find a way they do. They look 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.600 they look good when Latrell was there and they've looked 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.640 a little less good when he's not there. And I 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.240 mean he was playing elite level football. I know we're 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.360 going to talk about his contract at some point. He 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.320 was playing elite level football before he was. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.480 What's the situation with his contract? 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.000 He isn't every one guy right, and I think Souse 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.480 haven't started talking with him as I understand it, yet 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.240 they will at some point. Obviously they wanted to see 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.920 him play some footy. He played some footy earlier this year. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.080 He was sensational when he played one game for them, 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.880 basically on his own, and then he's had a little 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.840 setback with the back, but he'll be back in what 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.120 two to three weeks. I think they're saying, and he's 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.560 crucial for me. For me, they can't win the comp 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.800 without him. They've got to have Latrola play. Yeah. I mean, 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.400 if he's playing, and he's in that team and they've 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.440 got everyone available, most importantly, they've got him available, I 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.520 think they can win the comp. That's how influentially influential 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:31.880 he is on the football field. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.200 I think they're two most important players, Latrell and camp Marra, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.479 And if they have them both fit and firing at 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.040 the back end of the year, I think I definitely 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:40.880 think they can win the comp. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.200 So let's get to Latrell. Now, you guys had a 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.960 good chat last night on three sixty right about how 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.440 much he's worth. Man, you think he's worth the world. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.200 Top dollar, one point four miller. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.800 We just argued that they can win the comp with 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.840 him in the team, and you're telling me he's not 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:58.600 worth top dollar. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.080 No, I think he's a min dollar player, top dollar, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:03.520 not one point four dollars. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.880 You just see his difference between them potentially winning and 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:06.440 not winning a car. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.600 I'm not not paying the bloke. I'm not saying get 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:08.880 rid of. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.840 The elite level money. Elite level money. Top five in 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:12.400 the game. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.600 Money seven figures is elite level. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.880 Top five in the game is elite level. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.320 I would become talking. He might be comfortable. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:24.320 One point is and yes I love Latroit watching Latrell 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.600 when he's in an outstanding form, But you're paying him 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.680 elite level money when he actually doesn't play elite level football. 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.000 Well, he does consistently. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:38.640 Well, he's missed through injury. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.000 That's then he walks. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.159 Into the Aussie team when he's fit. Days he walks on. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.159 Let's flip that he representative Australian twenty twenty two. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.279 When he's fit, he walks into the team. Day when 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:50.600 he's fit, he walks. 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.719 Into You've got to conceive durability as a concern. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:54.359 He's had some injury issues. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.800 He's hast lots of injury issues. He don't played twenty 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.000 plus games since he arrived the house. That's a huge concern. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.080 When he played, but without him they can't win the comp, 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:03.839 so pay him top dollar. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.200 He makes it sound like I'm not going to pay 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:07.080 the glad good money. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.120 I'm saying you're not paying him elite level money, which 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:10.960 is where he should be. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:12.800 I am paying him elite level money. I'm making him 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.520 the highest paid center in the competition. That is elite 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:16.640 level money, not. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.919 Amongst the highest paid players in the comp though. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:19.599 He shouldn't be. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.960 He should be because he's an elite player in the comp. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.080 He hasn't proven that. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.440 How has he not proven that he's one game? 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.400 He hasn't wont to comp with South, hasn't played Australia 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.919 twenty two and consistently pulls. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.800 Out from Australia in twenty twenty two. He's had injuries. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.719 In fact, that's not fair. That's not really unfair to say. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.920 I understand he's had injuries and that's unfortunate. 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.680 He's a million dollar center, not a one point four 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:45.599 million dollar player. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.800 Well, so I disagree with you because I think when 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:53.000 he plays, they can win a premiership. To me, that's 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:53.640 how much. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.680 Difference you might agree with everything you saying. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.680 That suggests he's at the very top end the top 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.080 tier of players now game and they are not paid 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.440 just a million dollars, right, the elite level players. Now game, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.880 let's go through them. Nathan Reese paying. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.600 Yeah, you've all just list You've just listed representative players. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.920 He's a representative player. He would have walked in the 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:16.920 wild team day. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:17.480 They didn't. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.320 He's not there because he hurt his back. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:20.560 And that's the problem. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.320 That's a ridiculous argument you're making. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.400 No, it's twenty games in how many years? Well? Yeah, yeah, 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.400 he hasn't played twenty plus games since he arrived at 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.240 South Okay, so that's why you're what do you invest 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:35.600 in something that's because historically whereat where are they getting 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:36.400 to play like him? 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.480 They can make a difference for them winning. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.640 Can you say you make it sound like I'm not 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.280 making him the highest paid center in the competition. No, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:44.280 that's not. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:46.320 That's not what it's about for me. 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.440 He might be he's happy with that from you, but 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.960 he actually wants you. He's not happy that you don't 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:52.480 see more. 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.920 I'm saying he's more than a center at that foota club. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:57.880 No, he's not has more than a center. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.000 Is there another center in the comp that has the impact? 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.600 Maybe Herbie Aside? For me though, it's the impact on 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.560 a team like he does. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.680 No, that's why I made him the highest paid center 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.280 in the competition, is the best thing to me? 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.320 Steve Crichton's on that money? Has he the highest paid 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.520 center of the comp Steve Crichton's on a million next year? 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.920 One point one he's given next year, Well, I'll give 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.520 him one one point one comfortably. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.840 Steve Crochon got a ratchet clausing his deal. I don't know. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.520 I'm back, and he probably does. He's over million dollars 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.560 next year when the comp when the cap goes up 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.560 in twenty eight, he's gonna be on well over one 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.160 point one. Understandable if he's got a ratchet I expect 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.000 he does. Right, So he's on well over that. So 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.320 you're actually not making the highest plaid center in the comp. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.560 That's your assumption, Yes, that's my assumption. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:37.960 It's the reasonable assumption. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.640 Is that not one point one would be the highest 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:40.360 pay center of the competition. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.280 I've just told you it isn't, mate. He's off contract 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.840 in twenty eight, not twenty seven. He's off contract in 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:45.520 twenty eight. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.000 Who latrell, No, he's not. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.880 He's not of contract next year. Next year's twenty seven. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.559 He's off contract the end of twenty seven twenty eight. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.160 He's of contract twenty seven, twenty seven year. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.040 His new contract starts in twenty eight. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:08:59.880 Yes, I understand that. 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:01.960 But when there's a new salary cap, when there's a 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.440 new stary case seven right, And Steve cron if he 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.319 has a rat to cause his contract, which I expect 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.360 he does, will be on well over one point one 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.160 million dollars in twenty twenty eight because the CAP's going 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:11.520 to go up. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.920 Latrell will be thirty thirty one. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:15.760 He can ask you a question thirty. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.520 You can ask me whatever question you like, Mick. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:22.920 How much is Tom Travoyvich worth? Went now five years ago? 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.360 How much is Tom travoyage worth? 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.360 What's he on now? About one one point two? 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:27.880 He's less than under a million? 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.040 Or he took a pay cut, didn't he? 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.000 Well? Why did he take a pay cut? 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.960 Because he was a general generous gud I he didn't 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:35.319 take a. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.000 Pay cut because he's not been played twenty plus games 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.800 from Manly Ats whatsoever. And Tom Manley can't win the 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.000 comp without Tom travoy Vichy right man, Tom Travoyevich at 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.720 his best is the top five player in the competition. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:47.920 What are you paying Tom Travoyvich. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:52.640 Depends what club I'm at. Well, he's taken less to Stammany. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.680 That was his choice. He wanted to do that. But 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.320 there is entire question he's been. There is entire He's 0:09:58.320 --> 0:09:58.920 a manly guy. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.920 To him. I get so, I understand that. Okay, what 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.360 what is Tom travoy Witch worth? 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.960 Well over a million dollars when he plays, he's a 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.280 match winner. He's the difference between them winning a comp 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:10.079 and not winning a comp? 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:10.680 Agree? 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:15.400 Okay, well a million dollars less than a. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:21.160 Mill Okay are you saying that? But he's he's taken 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.400 a pay cup by a choice. He opted to take 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.120 a pay cut because he felt like he owed the 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.079 club something, right, Yeah, that's his choice. How many players 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.160 in the game have done what Tom has done is 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.120 completely unique, Mick Right? 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:32.360 Yeah. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.360 I don't think you can draw a valid Comparisony Matt 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:34.840 and Latrell. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.120 I just know. I just asked you what you want. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.920 That's what you're doing. That's exactly what you're doing. You are, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:40.320 that's what you're doing. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.440 Stop talking over me. I asked what he was worth. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.439 I told you what he's worth, not what he's paid. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:45.080 What he's worth. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.320 He said about one one point one So Latrell's worth 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.640 three hundred thousand dollars more than Tom Travoyvich. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.800 Mate Latrell's off contract in twenty twenty eight, Mick, not 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.959 twenty twenty seven, the cap will be about forty million dollars. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:56.600 That wasn't question. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:57.600 It's a different salary. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.360 It takes lower for you. Wait, is Tom Travoyevich. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.240 Twenty twenty eight about one point four million dollars? That's 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:04.840 what he's worth. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.480 You just got bullet into that just to support your argument. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.160 What do you reckon Tom gets in the open market 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.240 in twenty twenty eight. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:15.120 Not one point four Okay, because of the injuries, because 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.079 of the risk factor, because of everything we just mentioned, 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.720 which is similarly associated with the troll. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.000 Okay, I think if Tom's in the open market and 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.439 he gets through next season, he's fit. He gets that easy. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.320 If you gets through in place twenty plus games for sure. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.520 Okay. Well, your banking on the troll doing that because 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.040 you're not a contract to twenty twenty eight, As I 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.199 keep telling you, in the end of twenty when the 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.840 salary cap is completely different than what it is next year. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:35.760 You're jumping in twenty eight. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.760 So he's off contractor that's what he's off contract made 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.079 end of next year. Yes, twenty twenty eight is when 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:44.160 he's off contract contract. He's under a new salary cap 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.320 in twenty twenty eight. That's what we're talking about. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.760 We're not talking about now the current cap is. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:50.000 I understand how it works? 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.199 Yes, well aware, we don't seem to be because you 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.360 keep talking about twenty seven. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:57.480 Well done boys, good debate, Well done. All right, we've 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.760 had to We've had to take those boys to the 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.839 cool room. They've had to calm down the start. Well, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.120 that's what you did. You're looking for trouble. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:12.640 Well I'm with you, Mick. He s Georgia Lawara. They're 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:13.520 making moves. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.000 I don't feel like talk anymore. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.080 He should have stormed off. Can I get some boxes 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.080 isssues for this? I see this? Nobody? 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:27.520 Yes, right, the dragons consistently, we're gonna I reckon, there's 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.719 going to be headline after headline after headline out of 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.360 Saints as far as their roster changes and movement is 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:34.880 concerned me sorely. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.280 Yeah, he's the first sort of contracted domino to be 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.839 put on the open market all the The news around 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.680 the Dragons over the past couple of months has been 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.640 guys that are off contract at the end of the season. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.120 This is a guy that's contracted until the end of 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:53.920 twenty seven. That he's contracted too. So that's because that's 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.400 how we speak. When they're a contracts to the end 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.840 of twenty seven seven. We never speak like that. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.000 But anyway, I think we just did. But you did, okay, 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.000 well one part of week. When you say we you 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:05.800 as well. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.120 Sile's off contract at the end of twenty seven, like 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.400 a range of other players, So uh yeah, I think 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.199 there's gonna be some significant movement between now and the 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.440 end of the season at the Dragons. He won't be alone, Yeah, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.080 Tyal Sloan Well Slow's off contract at the end twenty six. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.360 I see what I mean. It doesn't speak. We don't 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.400 speak like I don't think you'll there when we drink water. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.120 Guffers and it's like, I don't they're trying to get 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:31.040 rid of him for years. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:32.319 I don't think you'll be it. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:38.480 You know, Wakefield, Wakefield looks he's on Super League. What's 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.320 the movement, Dave? And they need to make movement because 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.440 they're bringing a few in right. They are bringing some 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.200 good ones in Metcalf drink Water. 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:45.640 They play finals next year. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.400 You know what, I actually think they're an outside chance 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.640 without score nice blended young bligs. Yeah, Connor Watson good talent, 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.320 that young forwards. I actually think they're an outside of hope. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.560 It's not about the spine has gone. The spine has 0:13:58.559 --> 0:13:59.600 gone from the worst spine. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.839 In the if you're guaranteed nine to take it, it's 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:02.199 gone for. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.440 The worst spine the comp to a competitive spine. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.760 Now there's obviously some question marks around, you know, the 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.720 dummy half because Jacob literally just can't strink some games together. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:13.800 And by the way, you know he needs to play 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.160 because he's their premier hooker. Next year. Connor Watson has 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.480 been bored to some cover there. They've got Kyle Flanning 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.880 and potentially. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.200 Do that to try and buy stop gap nine. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.480 I think I think they've done. No, I actually think 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.440 the other one because I know they're going to be 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.960 in the market come November one for the twenty eighth 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.360 season for a long term dummy half o. 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.400 What do you got? Are you great? 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.680 I'm not sure, Harry twenty nine. Interesting one is what 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.480 happens at the Warriors with sort of wade to Eagan 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.440 and Sam Healy. I think that's a really interesting They're 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.120 both off contract at the end of the twenty seventh season, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.120 so for twenty eight, Yeah, in the twenty seven when 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.640 gap changes, so they're both off contract with Warriors. Might 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:57.920 have to make a call there if one of them 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.119 fall out. I think the Dragons might make them play. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.240 I just think we're going to be hearing a lot 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.720 out of a Saints as we more. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.360 Even more, Yeah, they have got a lot of sellow 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.600 cap space left. You guys know better than me, more 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.400 more for twenty eight. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:11.760 Twenty eight, there's plenty rooms. 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.680 Because guff O vow Yeah, what about. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:18.160 Funny again those guys. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.440 Obviously val and Gutha are the big talking point was 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.920 both those bikes are on huge money and having played 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:23.920 great this year like that was great at the weekend. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.440 I can imagine they probably find a buyer for valots 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.040 they wanted to get rid of him. If they want 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:30.640 to move him on. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:31.200 Have to chip in. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:32.360 I would think, yeah, they have to. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.280 It's going to be the amount, right is the interesting one? 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.440 You raised the idea of a medical retirement last night. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.440 Well, I've just bullied him into that. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:42.840 We watched that last night. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.000 I'm not sure where Mick got his medical degree, but 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.800 doctor journalist, doctor carry others, doctor carry others. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.520 But he's obviously notably struggling. Right he's doing a fitness 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.440 test to play this weekend. He's the cook and if 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.760 he plays, he wouldn't have trained this week. You can't 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:01.800 remember the last time he trained. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.960 He would see the ideal bloke for me that should 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.040 go to super League for two years. He'd probably get 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.480 two years out in super League. Handle it on his 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.800 ear right, easy money for him. Go over there, live 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.440 in the south of France, spend two years in Super League, 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:18.000 see the world. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.320 The question finished, Then the question around out two readers, 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.880 and he's on probably around eight hundred ish next season. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:28.680 He won't command that money, and course of course, better 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:29.120 than what. 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.640 If you managed to retire and now it comes off 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.200 the cap. But they're going to pay him anyway. We 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.040