Speaker 1: We've got to the COVID n r L show.
Speaker 2: Dave Ricky oh here with Brent Reed and Michael carry
Speaker 2: onass as always, fellas as always, Thursday Night Rugby.
Speaker 3: Already, Dave. I'm in a bad mood already. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying why what did I get to Thursday night?
Speaker 2: Where are they playing?
Speaker 1: This game?
Speaker 3: Was Pine's Park?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Good news for Manley fans with Karen Forren getting that contract,
Speaker 2: three year deal the head coach of the Manly Seagulls.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? Do you reckon? There's a chance of
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The air coming out of the balloon tonight.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think I like souse injury rubbage right,
Speaker 1: So they've got a lot of blokes help speak to
Speaker 1: Brena Smith. Murray's back from Origin for fear To helps
Speaker 1: big time because he was in a really good form
Speaker 1: before that. So yeah, it brings it back to But
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a I don't think this Manly
Speaker 1: side is going to have a lull. I just don't see.
Speaker 1: They're going to obviously lose games, right, We're going to
Speaker 1: see that. I don't know if I don't think they'll
Speaker 1: finish in the top four, but they look like a
Speaker 1: side that's going to finish and play finals. Foot from
Speaker 1: mine for now.
Speaker 3: The South Sun runkout siders in this game. For me,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't surprise me to all when they're a good
Speaker 3: football team. They're missing Latreil obviously, but Brandon makes you.
Speaker 3: Mick mentioned Dave for feeder brand As smithsy huge in
Speaker 3: for South as well, really good footballer. So I would
Speaker 3: not shock me if South won this game. I think manly.
Speaker 3: I tip manly, but as I said, wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 3: I'm not ruling it out. Dave.
Speaker 2: I tell you who I've burned him Press boys Clayton.
Speaker 3: They're trying to extend him now too, aren't they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are definitely. They spoke around there and the
Speaker 1: Jake Cavarello market, but backed out of that because of
Speaker 1: Clayton's form essentially and how good he's been since. You know.
Speaker 1: It was a big call from Kieran four and to
Speaker 1: move Toller Cohler from full back because he was showing
Speaker 1: really good signs. But obviously fall saw some been in
Speaker 1: Paull l'allo and pushed him back there and he's been
Speaker 1: outstanding it.
Speaker 2: And Leo is a fullback option he could have gone to.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting dilemma for him when Tommy comes back
Speaker 3: in two weeks. Expect him back after the buy right.
Speaker 3: Alo probably deserves to be in the team, So I'm
Speaker 3: he's got to try and find a space from there.
Speaker 3: There's not an obvious one.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a spot for him.
Speaker 3: He may need to come off the bench, so you
Speaker 3: should make a big call. And I was going to
Speaker 3: say drop Ruben Garret, But he's not going to do that,
Speaker 3: is he? So you know, I don't know where he
Speaker 3: fits in.
Speaker 2: So are you saying are you saying the mainly Seguls
Speaker 2: are in contract talks to rees on full what is
Speaker 2: What does that mean for the roster?
Speaker 1: Well, Ruby Garrett, that's really already said. Ruby Garrek won't
Speaker 1: be there next year. So they've been on the lookout
Speaker 1: for an outside back. But maybe Clayton feels that spot
Speaker 1: and we moved from fullback to center.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's played a bit of wing and I think
Speaker 3: he's played a bit of center anyway, isn't he? So
Speaker 3: you know it's a logical one for me. He's shown
Speaker 3: no impact on Lehigh.
Speaker 1: Well, the other center option is Tommy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well Bozz has said from day one Tommy will be
Speaker 3: his fullback and I don't think he's going to change that.
Speaker 3: I mean the option is put on the bench and
Speaker 3: Leo of the centers. I mean he could do that
Speaker 3: as well, because Leo's played some center, so he's got
Speaker 3: options there. Dave, you know, there's good He doesn't have
Speaker 3: to create a spot for the guy. A spot will
Speaker 3: naturally organically open up for him. And Ruben Garrett.
Speaker 2: Leaves just on the Bunnies funny team. And I know
Speaker 2: they were injury ravaged, but they're not. They need this one.
Speaker 3: They need to find a way they do. They look
Speaker 3: they look good when Latrell was there and they've looked
Speaker 3: a little less good when he's not there. And I
Speaker 3: mean he was playing elite level football. I know we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about his contract at some point. He
Speaker 3: was playing elite level football before he was.
Speaker 1: What's the situation with his contract?
Speaker 3: He isn't every one guy right, and I think Souse
Speaker 3: haven't started talking with him as I understand it, yet
Speaker 3: they will at some point. Obviously they wanted to see
Speaker 3: him play some footy. He played some footy earlier this year.
Speaker 3: He was sensational when he played one game for them,
Speaker 3: basically on his own, and then he's had a little
Speaker 3: setback with the back, but he'll be back in what
Speaker 3: two to three weeks. I think they're saying, and he's
Speaker 3: crucial for me. For me, they can't win the comp
Speaker 3: without him. They've got to have Latrola play. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 3: if he's playing, and he's in that team and they've
Speaker 3: got everyone available, most importantly, they've got him available, I
Speaker 3: think they can win the comp. That's how influentially influential
Speaker 3: he is on the football field.
Speaker 1: I think they're two most important players, Latrell and camp Marra,
Speaker 1: And if they have them both fit and firing at
Speaker 1: the back end of the year, I think I definitely
Speaker 1: think they can win the comp.
Speaker 2: So let's get to Latrell. Now, you guys had a
Speaker 2: good chat last night on three sixty right about how
Speaker 2: much he's worth. Man, you think he's worth the world.
Speaker 1: Top dollar, one point four miller.
Speaker 3: We just argued that they can win the comp with
Speaker 3: him in the team, and you're telling me he's not
Speaker 3: worth top dollar.
Speaker 1: No, I think he's a min dollar player, top dollar,
Speaker 1: not one point four dollars.
Speaker 3: You just see his difference between them potentially winning and
Speaker 3: not winning a car.
Speaker 1: I'm not not paying the bloke. I'm not saying get
Speaker 1: rid of.
Speaker 3: The elite level money. Elite level money. Top five in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 1: Money seven figures is elite level.
Speaker 3: Top five in the game is elite level.
Speaker 1: I would become talking. He might be comfortable.
Speaker 2: One point is and yes I love Latroit watching Latrell
Speaker 2: when he's in an outstanding form, But you're paying him
Speaker 2: elite level money when he actually doesn't play elite level football.
Speaker 1: Well, he does consistently.
Speaker 3: Well, he's missed through injury.
Speaker 1: That's then he walks.
Speaker 3: Into the Aussie team when he's fit. Days he walks on.
Speaker 1: Let's flip that he representative Australian twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: When he's fit, he walks into the team. Day when
Speaker 3: he's fit, he walks.
Speaker 1: Into You've got to conceive durability as a concern.
Speaker 3: He's had some injury issues.
Speaker 1: He's hast lots of injury issues. He don't played twenty
Speaker 1: plus games since he arrived the house. That's a huge concern.
Speaker 3: When he played, but without him they can't win the comp,
Speaker 3: so pay him top dollar.
Speaker 1: He makes it sound like I'm not going to pay
Speaker 1: the glad good money.
Speaker 3: I'm saying you're not paying him elite level money, which
Speaker 3: is where he should be.
Speaker 1: I am paying him elite level money. I'm making him
Speaker 1: the highest paid center in the competition. That is elite
Speaker 1: level money, not.
Speaker 3: Amongst the highest paid players in the comp though.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't be.
Speaker 3: He should be because he's an elite player in the comp.
Speaker 1: He hasn't proven that.
Speaker 3: How has he not proven that he's one game?
Speaker 2: He hasn't wont to comp with South, hasn't played Australia
Speaker 2: twenty two and consistently pulls.
Speaker 3: Out from Australia in twenty twenty two. He's had injuries.
Speaker 3: In fact, that's not fair. That's not really unfair to say.
Speaker 1: I understand he's had injuries and that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: He's a million dollar center, not a one point four
Speaker 2: million dollar player.
Speaker 3: Well, so I disagree with you because I think when
Speaker 3: he plays, they can win a premiership. To me, that's
Speaker 3: how much.
Speaker 1: Difference you might agree with everything you saying.
Speaker 3: That suggests he's at the very top end the top
Speaker 3: tier of players now game and they are not paid
Speaker 3: just a million dollars, right, the elite level players. Now game,
Speaker 3: let's go through them. Nathan Reese paying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've all just list You've just listed representative players.
Speaker 3: He's a representative player. He would have walked in the
Speaker 3: wild team day.
Speaker 1: They didn't.
Speaker 3: He's not there because he hurt his back.
Speaker 2: And that's the problem.
Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous argument you're making.
Speaker 1: No, it's twenty games in how many years? Well? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he hasn't played twenty plus games since he arrived at
Speaker 1: South Okay, so that's why you're what do you invest
Speaker 1: in something that's because historically whereat where are they getting
Speaker 1: to play like him?
Speaker 3: They can make a difference for them winning.
Speaker 1: Can you say you make it sound like I'm not
Speaker 1: making him the highest paid center in the competition. No,
Speaker 1: that's not.
Speaker 3: That's not what it's about for me.
Speaker 2: He might be he's happy with that from you, but
Speaker 2: he actually wants you. He's not happy that you don't
Speaker 2: see more.
Speaker 3: I'm saying he's more than a center at that foota club.
Speaker 1: No, he's not has more than a center.
Speaker 3: Is there another center in the comp that has the impact?
Speaker 3: Maybe Herbie Aside? For me though, it's the impact on
Speaker 3: a team like he does.
Speaker 1: No, that's why I made him the highest paid center
Speaker 1: in the competition, is the best thing to me?
Speaker 3: Steve Crichton's on that money? Has he the highest paid
Speaker 3: center of the comp Steve Crichton's on a million next year?
Speaker 1: One point one he's given next year, Well, I'll give
Speaker 1: him one one point one comfortably.
Speaker 3: Steve Crochon got a ratchet clausing his deal. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm back, and he probably does. He's over million dollars
Speaker 3: next year when the comp when the cap goes up
Speaker 3: in twenty eight, he's gonna be on well over one
Speaker 3: point one. Understandable if he's got a ratchet I expect
Speaker 3: he does. Right, So he's on well over that. So
Speaker 3: you're actually not making the highest plaid center in the comp.
Speaker 1: That's your assumption, Yes, that's my assumption.
Speaker 3: It's the reasonable assumption.
Speaker 1: Is that not one point one would be the highest
Speaker 1: pay center of the competition.
Speaker 3: I've just told you it isn't, mate. He's off contract
Speaker 3: in twenty eight, not twenty seven. He's off contract in
Speaker 3: twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Who latrell, No, he's not.
Speaker 3: He's not of contract next year. Next year's twenty seven.
Speaker 3: He's off contract the end of twenty seven twenty eight.
Speaker 1: He's of contract twenty seven, twenty seven year.
Speaker 3: His new contract starts in twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Yes, I understand that.
Speaker 3: But when there's a new salary cap, when there's a
Speaker 3: new stary case seven right, And Steve cron if he
Speaker 3: has a rat to cause his contract, which I expect
Speaker 3: he does, will be on well over one point one
Speaker 3: million dollars in twenty twenty eight because the CAP's going
Speaker 3: to go up.
Speaker 2: Latrell will be thirty thirty one.
Speaker 1: He can ask you a question thirty.
Speaker 3: You can ask me whatever question you like, Mick.
Speaker 1: How much is Tom Travoyvich worth? Went now five years ago?
Speaker 1: How much is Tom travoyage worth?
Speaker 3: What's he on now? About one one point two?
Speaker 1: He's less than under a million?
Speaker 3: Or he took a pay cut, didn't he?
Speaker 1: Well? Why did he take a pay cut?
Speaker 3: Because he was a general generous gud I he didn't
Speaker 3: take a.
Speaker 1: Pay cut because he's not been played twenty plus games
Speaker 1: from Manly Ats whatsoever. And Tom Manley can't win the
Speaker 1: comp without Tom travoy Vichy right man, Tom Travoyevich at
Speaker 1: his best is the top five player in the competition.
Speaker 1: What are you paying Tom Travoyvich.
Speaker 3: Depends what club I'm at. Well, he's taken less to Stammany.
Speaker 3: That was his choice. He wanted to do that. But
Speaker 3: there is entire question he's been. There is entire He's
Speaker 3: a manly guy.
Speaker 1: To him. I get so, I understand that. Okay, what
Speaker 1: what is Tom travoy Witch worth?
Speaker 3: Well over a million dollars when he plays, he's a
Speaker 3: match winner. He's the difference between them winning a comp
Speaker 3: and not winning a comp?
Speaker 1: Agree?
Speaker 4: Okay, well a million dollars less than a.
Speaker 3: Mill Okay are you saying that? But he's he's taken
Speaker 3: a pay cup by a choice. He opted to take
Speaker 3: a pay cut because he felt like he owed the
Speaker 3: club something, right, Yeah, that's his choice. How many players
Speaker 3: in the game have done what Tom has done is
Speaker 3: completely unique, Mick Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can draw a valid Comparisony Matt
Speaker 3: and Latrell.
Speaker 1: I just know. I just asked you what you want.
Speaker 3: That's what you're doing. That's exactly what you're doing. You are,
Speaker 3: that's what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Stop talking over me. I asked what he was worth.
Speaker 3: I told you what he's worth, not what he's paid.
Speaker 3: What he's worth.
Speaker 1: He said about one one point one So Latrell's worth
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars more than Tom Travoyvich.
Speaker 3: Mate Latrell's off contract in twenty twenty eight, Mick, not
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven, the cap will be about forty million dollars.
Speaker 1: That wasn't question.
Speaker 3: It's a different salary.
Speaker 1: It takes lower for you. Wait, is Tom Travoyevich.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty eight about one point four million dollars? That's
Speaker 3: what he's worth.
Speaker 1: You just got bullet into that just to support your argument.
Speaker 3: What do you reckon Tom gets in the open market
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Not one point four Okay, because of the injuries, because
Speaker 1: of the risk factor, because of everything we just mentioned,
Speaker 1: which is similarly associated with the troll.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think if Tom's in the open market and
Speaker 3: he gets through next season, he's fit. He gets that easy.
Speaker 1: If you gets through in place twenty plus games for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, your banking on the troll doing that because
Speaker 3: you're not a contract to twenty twenty eight, As I
Speaker 3: keep telling you, in the end of twenty when the
Speaker 3: salary cap is completely different than what it is next year.
Speaker 1: You're jumping in twenty eight.
Speaker 4: So he's off contractor that's what he's off contract made
Speaker 4: end of next year. Yes, twenty twenty eight is when
Speaker 4: he's off contract contract. He's under a new salary cap
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty eight. That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: We're not talking about now the current cap is.
Speaker 1: I understand how it works?
Speaker 3: Yes, well aware, we don't seem to be because you
Speaker 3: keep talking about twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Well done boys, good debate, Well done. All right, we've
Speaker 2: had to We've had to take those boys to the
Speaker 2: cool room. They've had to calm down the start. Well,
Speaker 2: that's what you did. You're looking for trouble. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Well I'm with you, Mick. He s Georgia Lawara. They're
Speaker 2: making moves.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like talk anymore.
Speaker 1: He should have stormed off. Can I get some boxes
Speaker 1: isssues for this? I see this? Nobody?
Speaker 2: Yes, right, the dragons consistently, we're gonna I reckon, there's
Speaker 2: going to be headline after headline after headline out of
Speaker 2: Saints as far as their roster changes and movement is
Speaker 2: concerned me sorely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the first sort of contracted domino to be
Speaker 1: put on the open market all the The news around
Speaker 1: the Dragons over the past couple of months has been
Speaker 1: guys that are off contract at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: This is a guy that's contracted until the end of
Speaker 1: twenty seven. That he's contracted too. So that's because that's
Speaker 1: how we speak. When they're a contracts to the end
Speaker 1: of twenty seven seven. We never speak like that.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I think we just did. But you did, okay,
Speaker 3: well one part of week. When you say we you
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Sile's off contract at the end of twenty seven, like
Speaker 1: a range of other players, So uh yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some significant movement between now and the
Speaker 1: end of the season at the Dragons. He won't be alone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyal Sloan Well Slow's off contract at the end twenty six.
Speaker 1: I see what I mean. It doesn't speak. We don't
Speaker 1: speak like I don't think you'll there when we drink water.
Speaker 3: Guffers and it's like, I don't they're trying to get
Speaker 3: rid of him for years.
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll be it.
Speaker 3: You know, Wakefield, Wakefield looks he's on Super League. What's
Speaker 3: the movement, Dave? And they need to make movement because
Speaker 3: they're bringing a few in right. They are bringing some
Speaker 3: good ones in Metcalf drink Water.
Speaker 1: They play finals next year.
Speaker 3: You know what, I actually think they're an outside chance
Speaker 3: without score nice blended young bligs. Yeah, Connor Watson good talent,
Speaker 3: that young forwards. I actually think they're an outside of hope.
Speaker 3: It's not about the spine has gone. The spine has
Speaker 3: gone from the worst spine.
Speaker 1: In the if you're guaranteed nine to take it, it's
Speaker 1: gone for.
Speaker 3: The worst spine the comp to a competitive spine.
Speaker 1: Now there's obviously some question marks around, you know, the
Speaker 1: dummy half because Jacob literally just can't strink some games together.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know he needs to play
Speaker 1: because he's their premier hooker. Next year. Connor Watson has
Speaker 1: been bored to some cover there. They've got Kyle Flanning
Speaker 1: and potentially.
Speaker 2: Do that to try and buy stop gap nine.
Speaker 1: I think I think they've done. No, I actually think
Speaker 1: the other one because I know they're going to be
Speaker 1: in the market come November one for the twenty eighth
Speaker 1: season for a long term dummy half o.
Speaker 3: What do you got? Are you great?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, Harry twenty nine. Interesting one is what
Speaker 1: happens at the Warriors with sort of wade to Eagan
Speaker 1: and Sam Healy. I think that's a really interesting They're
Speaker 1: both off contract at the end of the twenty seventh season,
Speaker 1: so for twenty eight, Yeah, in the twenty seven when
Speaker 1: gap changes, so they're both off contract with Warriors. Might
Speaker 1: have to make a call there if one of them
Speaker 1: fall out. I think the Dragons might make them play.
Speaker 2: I just think we're going to be hearing a lot
Speaker 2: out of a Saints as we more.
Speaker 3: Even more, Yeah, they have got a lot of sellow
Speaker 3: cap space left. You guys know better than me, more
Speaker 3: more for twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight, there's plenty rooms.
Speaker 3: Because guff O vow Yeah, what about.
Speaker 1: Funny again those guys.
Speaker 3: Obviously val and Gutha are the big talking point was
Speaker 3: both those bikes are on huge money and having played
Speaker 3: great this year like that was great at the weekend.
Speaker 3: I can imagine they probably find a buyer for valots
Speaker 3: they wanted to get rid of him. If they want
Speaker 3: to move him on.
Speaker 1: Have to chip in.
Speaker 3: I would think, yeah, they have to.
Speaker 1: It's going to be the amount, right is the interesting one?
Speaker 3: You raised the idea of a medical retirement last night.
Speaker 1: Well, I've just bullied him into that.
Speaker 2: We watched that last night.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where Mick got his medical degree, but
Speaker 3: doctor journalist, doctor carry others, doctor carry others.
Speaker 1: But he's obviously notably struggling. Right he's doing a fitness
Speaker 1: test to play this weekend. He's the cook and if
Speaker 1: he plays, he wouldn't have trained this week. You can't
Speaker 1: remember the last time he trained.
Speaker 3: He would see the ideal bloke for me that should
Speaker 3: go to super League for two years. He'd probably get
Speaker 3: two years out in super League. Handle it on his
Speaker 3: ear right, easy money for him. Go over there, live
Speaker 3: in the south of France, spend two years in Super League,
Speaker 3: see the world.
Speaker 1: The question finished, Then the question around out two readers,
Speaker 1: and he's on probably around eight hundred ish next season.
Speaker 1: He won't command that money, and course of course, better
Speaker 1: than what.
Speaker 3: If you managed to retire and now it comes off
Speaker 3: the cap. But they're going to pay him anyway. We
Speaker 3: have to pay the bloke off the capito it does,
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to pay regardless of you. You have to
Speaker 3: pay him some money.
Speaker 1: So I think potentially next season if Suley moves on
Speaker 1: and say Guffins and moves on and there's just not
Speaker 1: that strike center on the market, right. But if they
Speaker 1: found a strike center, then you'd be inclined to play
Speaker 1: val on the wing and get with it. For one year.
Speaker 2: They had a little dip.
Speaker 1: Jack Jacob had a look at him. It's big money, Jacob,
Speaker 1: so the West Tigers. But yeah, they'll be in the market.
Speaker 1: I think they're in the market for an outside back,
Speaker 1: like a strike outside back, and then I still think
Speaker 1: they need a real steady hand in the forward pack. Yeah. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm just switching you.
Speaker 2: What did the West Tigers go to four years for
Speaker 2: Jake Everlo?
Speaker 1: I don't have that answer.
Speaker 3: He's young. I mean he's young, he's.
Speaker 1: Only twenty five. It's significant money and the proposition that
Speaker 1: he may transition into the halves in the twenty what
Speaker 1: season will be twenty eighth season?
Speaker 3: We're talking the twenty eighth or the end of twenty seventh.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight season season, Ok, not the end of twenty
Speaker 1: because he signed for twenty seven twenty eight. You do
Speaker 1: realize we never talk like that, right, who doesn't talk
Speaker 1: like that? When he's contract expires, we say the year
Speaker 1: he expires.
Speaker 3: The end of twenty seven and you're signing for the
Speaker 3: twenty eight season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I said.
Speaker 3: Latrell's the end of twenty seven for the twenty eight season, but.
Speaker 1: You're like twenty eight twenty and I understand it's twenty eight,
Speaker 1: but he's contract expires twenty seven.
Speaker 3: The end the end of twenty seven when you say
Speaker 3: twenty seven and makes ten stuff.
Speaker 1: Ever do we speak like that?
Speaker 2: We could have gett in parking fines Boy's Mitch Moss
Speaker 2: or Ethan Strange in this new southlast five eighth Jersey.
Speaker 3: Well, it's become more difficult. Mick Dave hasn't because he's
Speaker 3: not he's not playing. He's just got my head and
Speaker 3: he's not. He's not playing Monday? Now is he saying
Speaker 3: that's a big issue for Laurie.
Speaker 1: Because well we didn't see that one coming.
Speaker 3: Didn't because we were told on Monday that they picked
Speaker 3: him and he went on then the Para medical staff
Speaker 3: for really out Tuesday morning. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 3: would imagine, look Laurie, from everything Laurie said he was
Speaker 3: going to pick him in the team, and so how
Speaker 3: he went, I'd imagine he's still picked him in the squad.
Speaker 3: Sees how he goes. But I'll tell you what. The
Speaker 3: fact he's been ruled out this week is a major concern.
Speaker 3: For Look, it's not as big concern given how Ethan's
Speaker 3: Strange went one.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, got a good back up there.
Speaker 3: It's an issue when you consider he wanted to pick
Speaker 3: him and I think it would help.
Speaker 2: You said, well, it's interesting that we have we reported
Speaker 2: that Laurie would be prepared to give Mitchento Wednesday interesting
Speaker 2: to yes, to prove his fitness.
Speaker 1: That's that gives them a full.
Speaker 3: Week game game or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you you wish the week before, the Wednesday before
Speaker 2: and just pull the pin on it then and that'll
Speaker 2: give Strange a full week at six if Moses fair enough?
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, fair enough. I think Mitchell Mitch will
Speaker 1: definitely be fit for almost the game for the game, right,
Speaker 1: because we're still two weeks away, So Laurie. The only
Speaker 1: way Laurie wins in this debate is if New South
Speaker 1: Wales walk away as victims, because we know this bloke
Speaker 1: next to me or next to you will be smashing
Speaker 1: him whatever decision he makes, and New South Wales lose.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Honestly, I'm not sure which way to
Speaker 1: go with it.
Speaker 3: I don't like, you can't smash him over the decision.
Speaker 1: Unless unless such a big call.
Speaker 3: Tough call, But I don't think Laurie is going to
Speaker 3: get hung out to dry based in this decision because
Speaker 3: I think if he picks the only way he gets
Speaker 3: hung out to dry over it is if he picks
Speaker 3: Mitches Mitch plays the game and goes off after breaks down.
Speaker 3: Then it becomes an issue. Then it becomes the issue
Speaker 3: of should you have taken that risk? But if he
Speaker 3: rules him out early and plays Ethan strange, I don't
Speaker 3: think there's as much backlash if they lose the game.
Speaker 3: I think if they lose the game, the issue then
Speaker 3: becomes I want to be kind. This issue then becomes, mate,
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Bar income.
Speaker 2: So negative?
Speaker 3: Being positive? If you lose the game, they might wear it.
Speaker 3: It made me feel dirty.
Speaker 1: It's still a big week in the footy to come.
Speaker 2: As far as the selections, Like Laurie would be sitting
Speaker 2: at home, I hoping, look, he lost Blake Brayley and
Speaker 2: now Mitch is in some doubt. You'd be sitting and
Speaker 2: I'm hoping.
Speaker 3: Queen has lost them to mate.
Speaker 1: You know that who they lose.
Speaker 3: I don't remember we lost Carrigan. Patty is a bigger
Speaker 3: loss than anyone.
Speaker 2: Someone said to me, Patty is not a loss. Someone
Speaker 2: of significance, some of.
Speaker 3: The significance obviously not from Queensland.
Speaker 2: Passionate played for Queensland.
Speaker 3: Get out of the town pack carriers at a loss.
Speaker 3: Give me a break. This is this you're trying to
Speaker 3: get the head.
Speaker 1: Start off the bench for Queensland. Yeah, well, wasn't standing
Speaker 1: blessing the big past, the depth of Queensland.
Speaker 3: What a blessing to being pack carrying off the bench?
Speaker 1: What about the depth of Queensland.
Speaker 3: We got one other forward and that's that. Now he's
Speaker 3: not Now it's sort of available hunderdogs alone. He's a
Speaker 3: great player. He's a shadowing loss for coeens He's out
Speaker 3: both games. He's having surgery today. Paddy, there's Billy pick. No,
Speaker 3: I don't think you can. You can't pick Grease. Let's
Speaker 3: just pick was excitement machine. Pick with you man, bring
Speaker 3: him off the bend.
Speaker 2: Pi.
Speaker 3: It's funny because Mick told the story last night. He
Speaker 3: actually said to me, you're in the game and you're
Speaker 3: bringing Reese on now.
Speaker 1: When Queensland was in front. There was like it was
Speaker 1: just the game had just there was nothing doing for Queensland,
Speaker 1: and you know, we looked at what you brought him
Speaker 1: on at that time, Well, but this is a problem
Speaker 1: like this, so we all looked at and lead up
Speaker 1: to the game going. You know, put Reese on the bench.
Speaker 1: If they're chasing points, you can bring him on. But
Speaker 1: I think they needed him to win that game, to
Speaker 1: close out that game. Even though the game this was before,
Speaker 1: I think it would.
Speaker 3: Have closed out because they we got so far ahead,
Speaker 3: that was so dominant that point, you know, and they
Speaker 3: had chances to go further ahead, and maybe Reese would
Speaker 3: have ice that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, right, like, forget what happened after
Speaker 1: because I couldn't predict it. Right. I'm not saying you're going, oh,
Speaker 1: you should have put had on because Klein has no idea, right,
Speaker 1: But I just felt there was a moment in the
Speaker 1: game in that second half where Queensland just didn't start
Speaker 1: fast after the halftime break. You needed an injection of
Speaker 1: even at the.
Speaker 3: End of the first half, start the second half. I
Speaker 3: think he recent the action.
Speaker 1: Boom and just go for kill.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty Hindsight apparently. Yeah, anyway, it would have been
Speaker 3: a different You know, he's got the opportunity now because
Speaker 3: got to pick. I'm not sure you can pick it up.
Speaker 2: You've got to pick, but no Subosarki and Ezra has
Speaker 2: been dropped by the Bronco. So there's two bench spots
Speaker 2: available for Abillity to pick him if he overlooks him.
Speaker 2: Now my side, I don't think.
Speaker 1: You could pick him for the Shubasaki role, but definitely
Speaker 1: the role if you can.
Speaker 2: Still you can still manage your manipulate your bench to
Speaker 2: get Reese in and you've got two losses on your bench, I'd.
Speaker 1: Be playing I'd be playing him ahead of regardless.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe you could have him and Ezra
Speaker 3: on the bench. I suppose where it covers cover yours
Speaker 3: centers really have you, but you can shuffle things around them.
Speaker 1: If you lose a half, you're just looking into the
Speaker 1: halves and can go to fullback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Broncos gone boys, not going the one win
Speaker 2: out of the eight one win Please.
Speaker 1: Have you seen any ever beaten the shit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen it. I've been you know, I know
Speaker 3: what the drawers like coming up, but they're one win
Speaker 3: out the eight day and they could beat anyone on
Speaker 3: the day, but there is dangerous the football team has
Speaker 3: risen the camp. So they've only got if they get
Speaker 3: through the next eight weeks and they win four games,
Speaker 3: they're still going to be within touching.
Speaker 2: What was concerning that was an attitude all loss on
Speaker 2: the weekend mentality, Yeah, probably they haven't got the killer.
Speaker 3: They reckon, they've lost the hunger. They're just tiger who
Speaker 3: you're saying.
Speaker 2: Honestly, they had they had. They had a seven to
Speaker 2: two penalty count and a five to one set restart
Speaker 2: advantage against the Saints, right, massive, a massive amount of
Speaker 2: ball opportunity, of which they ultimately dropped.
Speaker 3: Well, no one's arguing they played poorly.
Speaker 2: I think it's another turtle thing in a mentality.
Speaker 1: Definitely, that's a reflect that's that's an attitude thing on
Speaker 1: the weekend. But I think they can still play finals footy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they just got to get through the next
Speaker 3: two months win half their games.
Speaker 2: What if the Titans beat them this weekend, well.
Speaker 1: That would be alarm.
Speaker 3: Means they've got to win one more the next that
Speaker 3: would be.
Speaker 1: That would be disturbing because the growth of the Titans
Speaker 1: hasn't been there at all.
Speaker 3: There's still spoon contend.
Speaker 1: They've been one of the look I had him coming last.
Speaker 1: So it's not totally disappointed, but.
Speaker 3: Good and tell Us is watching you out there, Gordy.
Speaker 1: You you smashed him last night, be Gordy.
Speaker 3: I didn't even come last. Actually, the dragons, thank you
Speaker 3: very much. Not over yet, No, it's not over yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's better than I would have been prediction
Speaker 1: last year. We're closer to the mark.
Speaker 3: Can we get back to that again? Who wasn't again?
Speaker 3: Where they finished? Again? Where they finished? Premise they were.
Speaker 1: Never dragons?
Speaker 3: You want a sharp la trail.
Speaker 5: Given the blood one point one the players, then we're
Speaker 5: going all right, mate.
Speaker 1: Keep that in fors Pine Park?
Speaker 2: Was pine Park tonight? Manly Verse South?
Speaker 3: Actually was Pines is not point pints? Four pints? Was
Speaker 3: pine Park?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Did you say that? They changed here in head on
Speaker 1: the man.
Speaker 3: That's my son's dream job young at KFC Manly val
Speaker 3: out there on the beach.
Speaker 2: That's crazy time. I listened excited with they have got
Speaker 2: very very excited Manly tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm excited by Manly, I think mainly for me.
Speaker 2: I'm only on go one two and Colon back in.
Speaker 3: I can't remember I tipped. I think I Souse could win,
Speaker 3: So that's a that's an even money one for me,
Speaker 3: that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tomorrow night, great game. I'm doving Newcastle to beat
Speaker 2: the Melbourne Storm in Melbourne.
Speaker 3: In Melbourne, I've gone Storm. There's one three of the
Speaker 3: past four games.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Knights need to complete at above eighty five
Speaker 2: percent and if they do that, they will have too
Speaker 2: much strike, too much power, too much artillery for the
Speaker 2: Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going with Storm, but Dave here.
Speaker 2: The second game on Friday night is the Raiders the
Speaker 2: Roosters down in the Nation's Capital.
Speaker 1: Ricky Stewart, after the.
Speaker 2: Performance of the Raiders getting that win last week, he
Speaker 2: will want it back to back performance and he will
Speaker 2: want He loves playing the Chicks. Roosters poor last week,
Speaker 2: meeting very poor.
Speaker 3: I've got Raiders based on the Rooster's performance last week,
Speaker 3: which is abject.
Speaker 2: We'll dive into the Roosters next week.
Speaker 1: I've got his shoes with them. Let's see how Yes,
Speaker 1: let's see how they go against win. Yeah, let's see
Speaker 1: what it looks like.
Speaker 6: I'm intrigue by this because Saturday. On Saturday, apparent to
Speaker 6: dig talking down. Apparently apparently dig in. Just give us
Speaker 6: a little stap shot, take control, give us a stap shot.
Speaker 1: It's Queensland Day.
Speaker 2: On Saturday.
Speaker 1: Around Mega Love, Mega Around.
Speaker 2: Cowboys v. Dolphins, Broncos v. Titans, Cowboys at home v
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Good game, tough tip. Cowboys are a tough
Speaker 2: breed at times.
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: They got a few few back here.
Speaker 2: Dolphins or Cowboys, Dolphins, cows Cows Dolphins, Toddy Peyton top.
Speaker 3: Dolphins fifth had I didn't have them in there.
Speaker 2: Broncos Titans Broncos, Broncos need to improve. Sunday Afternoon Tigers v. Panthers.
Speaker 2: Now that this one last year was a belter, I've
Speaker 2: got upset here.
Speaker 3: Tigers. We're back, baby Benji balls back.
Speaker 2: So I'll be interested to get your take on the
Speaker 2: Bulldogs when we get to it, if you think the
Speaker 2: Tigers are back.
Speaker 1: But we will get to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Local Darby Sharks v. Dragons. No Bradley, no, heinds
Speaker 2: sharks have never seen anything like that. But well, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with themselves.
Speaker 3: Sharks by about thirty.
Speaker 2: Sharks in a tight one Sars a tight one and
Speaker 2: as I said on Monday King's Birthday, Monday, big game,
Speaker 2: massive game. Dogs, Dogs must win Canterbury versus Paramatta two
Speaker 2: old rivals.
Speaker 1: Dogs have to find a way.
Speaker 3: Got to win this game.
Speaker 2: They've got major injury concerns over Jacob Garaz and Stephen
Speaker 2: kr I.
Speaker 3: Still should win that. I mean Paris without both there.
Speaker 3: I was going to say Jonah Peasant both out. They
Speaker 3: got many.
Speaker 1: Para such a good player. I was so gutsy last week.
Speaker 1: He helps them big time.
Speaker 3: You take.
Speaker 1: By a point, close scrap. I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be an ugly game of foot you yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be a scrap fest.
Speaker 3: You're telling fans not to bother tune in watch it.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 2: There you go, Dogs in a tight one. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: just got to scratch it out.
Speaker 3: But I can't wait till next week now, and you've
Speaker 3: teased your rooster's views. I'm pumped about next week already.
Speaker 2: Thank you one point Formulion, really ready, thank
Speaker 3: You eight baby looks man