1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: On scors Australia. This is the winner Panalkey Show. 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panicky show coming 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: up tonight. Labour's a massive landslide victory in South Australia 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: overshadowed by an Orange wave, with one nation's primary vote 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: exceeding twenty percent. I'll get Daniel Wilde's reaction to that 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: and the day's other top headlines. Victorians deliver their verdict 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: on Jiner Allen's leadership in a new poll. Anthony Galloway 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: from the Australian newspaper, We'll join the program for his analysis. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: Josh Hammer will have the latest from the US, including 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: a trip by hard left activists to communist Cuba to 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: protest against Donald Trump, and Kinseyscofield with the latest entertainment news, 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: including claims singer Chapel Roone made Jude Law's eleven year 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: old daughter cry and Left is Losing. It features a 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: skit mocking the British Prime Minister Kirs Starmer. Now this 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: kit is notable because President Trump posted it earlier today. 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: Yourself is who everyone likes. 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: I've saw that scary, scary, wonderful president. 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: But first to the South Australian election and as we 19 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: all expected, Labour one in a landslide. But the headline 20 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: news is the Orange wave that has swept through the state, 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: with One Nation's primary vote soaring over twenty percent. At 22 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: this stage, the party looks to have secured two Lower 23 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: House seats and it remains to be seen just how 24 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: many Upper House seats have been secured by One Nation. 25 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: We'll find out in the coming days who will be 26 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: joining South Australian leader Cory Bernardi in the South Australian 27 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: Legislative Council. What here, as Corey Bernardi hits back against 28 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: claims of One Nation's success, was just a protest vote. 29 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 5: This is not a protest against the UNI Party. This 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: is a declaration that things are not good enough in 31 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 5: South Australia and not good enough in Australia, and they 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 5: want a viable alternative. One Nation is that alternative, and 33 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: we will stand up and we will speak up for 34 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 5: every South Australian without fear or favor. 35 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: And Corey Bernardi was in no mood for the leftist 36 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: media as a race obsessed net narrative. Watch this exchange 37 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: about One Nation's immigration policy. 38 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 6: How can you keep putting by accusation that one nation 39 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 6: still has still platory and racist preteract with them. 40 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 5: I'm not familiar with what Barnaby said. I spoke to 41 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: him this morning. He didn't say anything like that to me. 42 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: So he's more familiar with buying cattle than I am. 43 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 5: So maybe you should ask him about what he's got 44 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 5: to say. And so let me presume the context that's 45 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 5: going to come out here. If when you go to 46 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: buy cattle, you choose the best cattle available to help 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: your stocks and you're herd, well, shouldn't we be doing 48 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: the same in our immigration policy. Shouldn't we be saying 49 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 5: we want the best and brightest to come here rather 50 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: than just the teeming hordes of people who come here 51 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: for welfare. I mean, you know you can characterize that 52 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 5: as racist. That's nonsensical. Talking about immigration is talking about 53 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 5: immigration and the interests of Australia and the people of 54 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: South Australia. The people of Australia are waking up to 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 5: the fact that mass immigration has not worked to our economic, 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 5: our social, or our cultural advantage. 57 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: That's crystal clear to people. But the journalist was not satisfied. 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: The clash continued certainly does raise coles. Those you're compared with, 59 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: like immigrants that could. 60 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: Become any very No, you don't know. No, you're not 61 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 5: comparing anything. You're just using a similar or a metaphor 62 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 5: to say, hey, this is what we should be doing, 63 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: and he's to put it in an agricultural parlance. I mean, 64 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: it's only the lefties, the bleeding art lefties who you 65 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 5: don't want any talk about immigration, that refer to this 66 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: sort of stuff as racist. I'm really sorry that you've 67 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: done that, but I presume you're bleeding hew it left him. No, 68 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 5: all right, they all say they're notough. 69 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Okay. 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: Joining me now is Deputy Executive director at the Institute 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: of Public Affairs, Daniel Wild Dad Cory Bernardi is again 72 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: an MP and he seems to have even less time 73 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: for pc bs than the last time around. What's your 74 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: assessment of the South Australian state election. 75 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 7: Well, this is a political earthquake that will start in 76 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 7: South Australia but is going to reverberate across the country. 77 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 7: You'll get similar results in Victoria, New South Wales and 78 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 7: federally because the Liberal Party has indicated it's not going 79 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 7: to change. So one nation will continue to rise. The 80 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 7: interesting thing in South Australia is if you listen to 81 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 7: the mainstream media, Peter Malanascus is a genius because he 82 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 7: held one nation at Bay. 83 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: He didn't. 84 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 7: One nation took thousands and thousands of votes away from 85 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 7: Labor and they are scared. 86 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: You look at a seat. I'll give you one example 87 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: of this. 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 7: You look at the electorate of Light, which is in 89 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 7: the outer northern suburbs centered around Gaula and parts of 90 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 7: angel Valemno Para. Labor was a seventy to thirty party, 91 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 7: seventy percent Labor, thirty percent Liberal on a two pp 92 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 7: Guess what it is now, fifty two. 93 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: Forty eight Labor. 94 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 7: One nation, Okay, one nation took twenty percent of Labour's 95 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 7: primary vote. Now, it is true that in that electorate 96 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 7: there was a sitting member who left that electric to 97 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 7: go to another one. 98 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: Finnily enough, he lost that one as well, But. 99 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 7: Nonetheless it gives you an indication that one nation is 100 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 7: taking many, many votes off Labor. These are white, working class, 101 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 7: lower middle income South Australians who don't like woke climate 102 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 7: change Labor. They don't see their values reflected in the 103 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 7: Liberal Party they're taking. It's from both sides of politics 104 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 7: and it's here to stay now. 105 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: One Nation was expected to do very well in regional areas, 106 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: but as you've described, it's done well in a number 107 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: of other areas, including Adelaide's northeastern fringe. It's caught both 108 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: the Libs and Labor by surprise. I want to ask 109 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: you about the preferential voting system that we have in 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: this country. It's fairly unique and it's delivering some strange results. 111 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: You've got Labor recording around thirty seven percent of the 112 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: primary voter this stage, and they've got over thirty seats, 113 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: One Nation over twenty two percent, only two seats. Is 114 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: there something fundamentally unrepresentative about our democracy? Dan, when you've 115 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: got results that seem to be completely out of whack. 116 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 7: I think, Look, there can be there's limitations to every 117 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 7: voting system. You know, if you have a UK style 118 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 7: first past the post, you can get someone who wins 119 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 7: with only twenty five percent of the vote, for example, 120 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 7: if you have a lot of candidates. So no matter 121 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 7: what system you have, it's imperfect. Yes, it's true that 122 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 7: the vast majority of seats in Australia are now determined 123 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 7: by preferences, So at the end of the day, you've 124 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 7: got to get your preference game going if you want 125 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 7: to win seats. Very few people win seats on primary 126 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 7: vote alone anymore. The other quick point I want to 127 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 7: make reader is you know, One Nation is now the 128 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 7: major non labor party in South Australia. When you look 129 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 7: at how many seats it came second in compared to 130 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 7: the Liberal Party. So all of the outer suburban seats 131 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 7: in the South and the North that's all One Nation now, 132 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 7: and many regional seats. So if you don't want labor, 133 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 7: people are voting One Nation, So they've now become the 134 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 7: major non labor party, and I think that's going to 135 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 7: happen in Victoria and in many cases federally as well. 136 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 7: The Liberal Party risks becoming like the Whig Party in 137 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 7: the United States, where social and demographic changes have superseded 138 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 7: it and they're just not changing. I mean that there's 139 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 7: no indication that they understan than what has just happened, 140 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 7: which is that there's only I mean, I have to 141 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 7: look at the numbers again, but there's only maybe at 142 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 7: the most ten seats where Liberal Party came second. So 143 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 7: you know that tells you everything you need to know. 144 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: It does tell you everything you need to know, and 145 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: sadly the lessons don't seem to be learned here. Are 146 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: we going to see, given the importance of the preferences, 147 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: are we going to see some sort of a formal 148 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: alliance between one nation and the coalition? Because we're still 149 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: having liberal leaders, including here in Victoria, saying they won't 150 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: do preference steals. And if they continue with that sort 151 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: of strategy, Dan, you're just going to have Labor in 152 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: power that they can be getting primary votes of around 153 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: thirty to thirty five percent and winning in landslides. 154 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 7: Well, him, that's right, But you know, one Nation is 155 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 7: very different to Liberal and it's very different to Labor, 156 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 7: at least the modern incarnations of it. So if I 157 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 7: was one Nation, I'm not sure i'd want to be 158 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 7: preferencing liberals either. You know, people really the vote, and 159 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 7: I get what Corey said about, you know, not being 160 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 7: a protest party, and it's not just a protest party, 161 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 7: but it's basically for people that have had a gut 162 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 7: full of the two major parties, that's who they're voting for. 163 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 7: So they don't want to vote for a party that's 164 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 7: going to be seen to be saddling up next to 165 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 7: another major party. That's kind of the whole point of 166 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 7: why people are voting for one nation. I think at 167 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 7: the moment the Liberal Party needs one nation more than 168 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 7: the other way around. Now we'll wait and see how 169 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 7: that plays out over the next few years. But at 170 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 7: the end of the day, the only way a political 171 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 7: party can succeed is if it gets its primary vote 172 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 7: up high enough to be number one on the in 173 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 7: terms of how people are voting. So that's what all 174 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 7: the major parties need to focus on for their own future. 175 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: Now let's talk about Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi and Home 176 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: Affairs Minister Tony Burke being heckled during prayers at lakember Mosque. 177 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: That was on Friday. These scenes have gone via all 178 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: around the world. Dan the scenes outside the mosque were 179 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: even uglier, the heckling, the hostility, uh security. We certainly 180 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: needed Federal police to keep the Prime Minister and the 181 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister safe, but this amusingly happened a day 182 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: after The Sydney Morning Herald penned an opinion piece attacking 183 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen, who had said she wouldn't feel safe or 184 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: welcome in Lakemba, The reporter wrote. Lakemba is one of 185 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: the most welcoming suburbs in this country, evidenced by its 186 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: wildly successful Ramadan Knights markets that have exploded in popularity. 187 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: If Hanson feels unwelcome in Lakember, perhaps that's on her. 188 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: And the PM did seem genuinely concern I might even 189 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: say frightened during some of that heckling, though he has 190 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: been at pains to say that it was just a 191 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: very small minority he were there. 192 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting, you know, diversity is our strength, isn't 193 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 7: our but easy? You know, he's finally been confronted with 194 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 7: the just ridiculousness of what's happening. I think Pauline Hanson 195 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 7: should go to Lakember and she should do a rally 196 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 7: in Lakember, and that would be a good way of 197 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 7: finding out, one way or another whether this Sydney Morning 198 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 7: Herald journalist or opinion piece writer is correct or not. 199 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 7: I think it'd be very interesting and maybe she should 200 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 7: go there and cover it and see what actually happens. 201 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: So look, this is just just an. 202 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 7: Insight into how Australia has become bulcanized how we are 203 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 7: increasingly living in enclaves where we don't talk to one another. 204 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 7: The days of Australia having shared values across our country 205 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 7: dead and gone. 206 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Sadly. 207 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 7: Now, that doesn't mean that it can't come back, but 208 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 7: it is going to take a generation to achieve that. 209 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 7: And I just found those images so funny of Anthony 210 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 7: Abernezi sitting there like a soy boy, you know, not 211 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 7: knowing what to do, and he's like, oh my gosh, 212 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 7: what's happening? 213 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 5: You know. 214 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 7: I just find it fascinating when they actually get out 215 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 7: of their bubble and talk to people, they learned that 216 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 7: the country they grew up in no longer exists. 217 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: Well, as I said on Outsiders yesterday morning, you could 218 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: praise the Prime Minister for bringing the country together. It 219 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: seems like everybody hates him right now. The Jewish community 220 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: is not happy with him, the Muslim community in La 221 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: Kemper certainly isn't happy with him. The left has got 222 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: all sorts of issues, and certainly conservatives don't like him. 223 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: So he's uniting the country in one way now. Before 224 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: you Go were reported last week on claims that Grace 225 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: Tame has lost all her speaking gigs. For the year. 226 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: They were saying she's been canceled. Well, the former Australian 227 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: of the Year has been announced as a guest of 228 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: the Melbourne Writers Festival. Grace Tame will be in conversation 229 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: with former ABC presenter Antoinette Latoufe, who is promoting her 230 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: new book about her legal win against the ABC for 231 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: unfair dismissal Dan. Her conversation with Grace Stain will be 232 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: about defiance, resilience and what it truly costs to speak out. Look, 233 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: I've got no issue with these two talking as much 234 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: as they like in front of audiences, But why are 235 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: my tax dollars subsidizing these sort of lefty loving events? 236 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree. 237 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 7: I mean, if you know, people have to earn a 238 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 7: crust and if this is how they do it, fair enough. 239 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: But I totally agree with you. Why do we have 240 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: to fund this nonsense? You know? 241 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 7: I think Grace Tame has sort of boxed herself into 242 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 7: a corner with a lot of her comments. She's become 243 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 7: a sort of a political activist, which has distracted away 244 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 7: from some of the important charitable work that she was doing. 245 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 7: And I just think again, a lot of people look 246 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 7: at this and they just say, well, you know, why 247 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 7: can't we have festivals, writers, festivals or other kind of 248 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 7: things that were actually bring us together as a community. 249 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 7: But I can't expect there'll be that many people tuning 250 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 7: in for this, so it's probably not going to be 251 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 7: of much consequence anyway, Dan Will, thanks for. 252 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: Your time now. Victorians have delivered a brutal verdict on 253 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: just Into Allen's leadership, with one third of residents considering 254 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: fleeing the state. According to a new poll by a 255 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: gender group community POLSE, a whopping fifty percent of Victorians 256 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: said they felt mostly or completely unheard by the Allen government. 257 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: Thirty eight percent of older Victorians also said they have 258 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: little or no pride in their state. That data also 259 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: shows just twenty three percent of Victorians age fifty five 260 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: and over would vote for Labor at the election, compared 261 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: to thirty three percent for the coalition and twenty nine 262 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: percent for one nation joining me now is the Australians. 263 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: Victorian political editor Anthony Galloway. Anthony, the most startling figure 264 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: in this data for me is that thirty six percent 265 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: of Victorians said they were considering leaving the state. That 266 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: is a huge number and it's across all age groups 267 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: and the regions and Melbourne. 268 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, it really adds to that sense that there's a 269 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 8: sense of drift in Victoria. People aren't proud in their 270 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 8: state and so that sense of change that I know 271 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 8: the Victorian Liberals are really trying to capitalize on at 272 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 8: the November state election. I mean, the other startling statistic 273 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 8: there is fifty percent of Victorians think the government's not 274 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 8: listening to them. I mean, that's much higher than just 275 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 8: the Liberal Party primary vote for example, So that there 276 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 8: must be labor voters who have voted for Dan Andrews 277 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 8: in successive elections who are adding to that are statistic there. 278 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: I've no doubt about that because we've just had such 279 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: a weak opposition in this state and there are plenty 280 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: of labor voters who are feeling alienated as well. And interestingly, 281 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: Queensland was nominated as the top destination of people who 282 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: are looking to leave the state. So I hope Queenslands 283 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: are ready for a lot more Victorians to move up 284 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: there and push their property prices. Now we have a 285 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: liberal leader in Victoria, Just Wilson urging voters not to 286 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: waste their vote on one nation. She said the upcoming 287 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: Nepan by election on May two, Well, it's expected to 288 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: be an early test of One Nation support in Victoria. 289 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: There will be no Labor candidates, so will be the 290 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: Liberals facing off against Pauline Hansen's One Nation Party. Anthony 291 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: Jess Wilson has said that voting for One Nation is 292 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: a protest vote. Is that how you see it? In 293 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: the pen It is a fairly unique seat in that 294 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: it is traditionally a very safe Liberal seat and Labor 295 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: isn't even bothering to run. 296 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, this will be the early the first litmus test 297 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 8: really of is this surge in One Nation support which 298 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 8: we're seeing all across the country and we're definitely seeing 299 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 8: in South Australia. 300 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: We have proof of that now. 301 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 8: But will it play out in Victoria the PN which 302 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 8: is based around the Mornington Peninsula, you would like to think, well, 303 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 8: the Liberals would like to think it's not normally an 304 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 8: area that would lean to One Nation in high numbers. 305 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 8: But if they're if One Nation's polling on fifteen to 306 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 8: twenty percent there, then they're going to be polling much 307 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 8: higher than that in seats in Western Melbourne for example, 308 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 8: or seats that are very regional, so that that will 309 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 8: be the early tests the coalition are hoping heading in 310 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 8: to both the Nepean by election, but more importantly the 311 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 8: state election in November. That this is a very different 312 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 8: situation to South Australia. That here you have a tired 313 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 8: old government that is very unpopular and that's compared to 314 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 8: a premier in Peter Malanaskis who you know, objectively kind 315 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 8: of hit it out of the park in his first term. 316 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: It's very popular, very likable. A lot of Chris means 317 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: about Malanascus. But you look at the poll numbers and 318 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: One Nation seems to be doing similar numbers in the 319 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: polls to South Australia. So I think the Libs might 320 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: be a little bit a bit of wish for thinking. 321 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: They're thinking we are dramatically different to the rest of 322 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: the country. What's an acceptable result in this Nepean by 323 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: election with no Labor candidate. Do the Libs really need 324 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: to be winning in a landslide to say this is 325 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: an endorsement of the new leadership. 326 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 8: I would say living in a landslide. If they just 327 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 8: great by two party preferred against One Nation, then that 328 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 8: doesn't augerwell for the election. 329 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: No not at all. The candidate they've installed there is interesting. 330 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: Just a few years ago at the last election, he 331 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: was barracking for Labor. In fact, there were texts published 332 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: saying that he was hoping Paul Mercurio, Labor candidate, wins. 333 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: How are they handling that because these seem to be 334 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 2: just own goals by the Liberal Party over and over again. 335 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 8: A bit embarrassing internally, and yeah, a lot of criticism 336 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 8: of the candidate internally. The Liberals are hoping that it's 337 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 8: that it hasn't been noticed by yeah, the electorate at large, 338 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 8: I guess, because yes, he was. He definitely was criticized 339 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 8: the own Liberal candidate at the last election in twenty 340 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 8: twenty two. 341 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: The Viglibs, I tell you, just when you think they've 342 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: got the stuff together, they come and surprise you. 343 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 8: This is the issue, and everyone in the coalition will 344 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 8: tell you this. They just need to present to the 345 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 8: public that they are unified, finally, they're not a rabble 346 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 8: and things like the deputy leader Sam Groth resigning to 347 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 8: start the year, and then things like this candidate being 348 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 8: revealed to bag his own party just is not good 349 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 8: in kind of what they want to present to the Pulu, 350 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 8: which is the bad days behind us. You can trust 351 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 8: us for a competent government, committed party ready to govern. 352 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, just if you're not a rabble you'll get elected. 353 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: It's that simple. In Victoria, we are in such a 354 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: bad situation. Every metric in this state is horrible. The 355 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: bar is so low, the bar is so low. You 356 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: basically just have to show us you're competent, even a 357 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: little bit competent and not crazy, and you'll get elected. 358 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: And yet they seem to fail that test. But let's 359 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: look forward to November and hopeful better. Anthony Galloway always 360 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: a pleasure, thanks still to karma. Left He Is Losing Ed, 361 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: plus the latest from the US, including a trip by 362 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: a hard left activist to communist Cuba to protest against 363 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Josh Hammer is up next. Welcome back. It's 364 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: time for Left His Losing Ed. Let's start with some laughs, 365 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: courtesy of President Trump and Saturday Night Live. It's not 366 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: often that SNL brings the lolls these days, but this 367 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: skit featuring a terrified kissed darmer is funny because it's true. 368 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: Oh oh golly, well, what if Donald shouts at me? 369 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: What do I say? 370 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 3: Labbie, just be yourself, Prime Minister. Yourself is who everyone likes. 371 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: I saw that scary, scary, wonderful president. Why is it 372 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: so probably difficult to talk to sir? 373 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: Just be honest and tell him we can't send any 374 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: more ships to the Strait of Hormus. 375 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: Oh crubs, I just hate conflicts so much. 376 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: Are you referring to the war or this phone call? 377 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 4: Isn't there a way I cannot do both. I just 378 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: want to keep him happy. Labby, you don't understand him 379 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: like I do. I can change him. 380 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: I don't think the feeling's mutual. He can't stop insulting you. 381 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: He called you a coward about. 382 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: A my depth there, Labby. Now we can only imagine 383 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: what President Trump was thinking when he shared that as 384 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 2: an ol skit mocking the weakness of British Prime Minister Kirstarma. 385 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: Let us now mock people who are almost beyond parody, 386 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 2: pampered communess who live privileged lives in the West, who 387 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: have decided to travel to Cuba to meet with Communist 388 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: officials and to slam President Donald Trump's administration. 389 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 9: But it's a show of our solibarity with the people 390 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 9: of Cuba and our opposition to what Trump is doing 391 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 9: to try to strangle the Cuba people into mission. 392 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: Now, Cuba should be a paradise for Decades of communist 393 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: rule have destroyed the country. More than a million Cubans 394 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: have fled, and those who remain yearned for freedom and opportunity. 395 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: What they don't need is a bloody mural painted by 396 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: Champagne socialists with too much time on their hands. 397 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 10: Since the mural for humanity and going to have little 398 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 10: boats with notes and. 399 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 11: Thank you. 400 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 6: On the other side that fishing. 401 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: And let's check in on the anti Ice brigade. We 402 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: haven't heard as much from them in recent weeks. They're 403 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: still around though, and they're still advocating for crazy. Watch this, guys, 404 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: a quick question. 405 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 12: We're bringing back illegal immigrant who were deported by Ice. 406 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 12: Can we get your signature for our petition? Oh, thank 407 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 12: you so much. We're trying to bring back Edwin Hernandez. 408 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: It's from El Salvador. 409 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 12: Would you have to tell you guys? He was He's 410 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 12: an admitted member of MS thirteen and he murdered five 411 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 12: people and Al Salvador but oh not here. But we 412 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 12: don't want him to face trial in El Salvador. We 413 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 12: want to get him back to America. 414 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, that's not good what he did at all. 415 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 12: Well, he was reported probably targeted because of the color 416 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 12: of his skin. Honestly, you don't want to sign it. 417 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 12: Oh okay, all right, thank you, Thank you guys. 418 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 2: Great work there from Matthew Miller exposing the Ashley reckless, 419 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: suicidely stupid American left. This next lady personifies the concept 420 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: of suicidal empathy. She's quite comfortable housing a murderous monster 421 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: whatever it takes to defeat Donald Trump. 422 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 12: I guess we're trying to bring back people who are 423 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 12: deported by Ice. Can we get your signature real quick 424 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 12: for that? Thank you so much. We're with to Bring 425 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 12: Them Back campaign. 426 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: We're trying to bring back. 427 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 12: Edwin Hernandez from Al Salvador. Now, he murdered five people 428 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 12: in El Salvador and he's an admitted member of MS thirteen. 429 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 12: But we think he deserves a second chance to come back, 430 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 12: absolutely absolutely. Now can you take him in when we 431 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 12: get him back? Would you be able to give him 432 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 12: a place to say? 433 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: I can do that, you can maybe? 434 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 12: Okay, can you just sign here that you would be 435 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 12: able to and then we'll email you that's so a 436 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 12: thoughtful of you. 437 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 2: Now while this one under life comes at you fast. 438 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: Remember when New York Governor Kathy Hochul was as arrogant 439 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: as hell, she mocked the folks fleeing her stake due 440 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: to the high taxes, the Democrat mismanagement, the high crime. 441 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: The list is long. This is what she said in 442 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. 443 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 9: That the era of Trump and Zelden and more and 444 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 9: are just jump on a bus and head down to 445 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 9: Florida where you're belong. Okay, get out of town, get 446 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 9: out of town. 447 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: Oh they did, Kathy. They left in droves. And they're 448 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: not New Yorkers anymore. They're Texans, Pilaridians, Kansas and whatever 449 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: you call folk from Tennessee. They went and they took 450 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: their wealth and taxes with them. Now the New York 451 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: governor is begging them to come back. 452 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 9: I need people who are high net worth to support 453 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 9: the generous social programs that we want to have in 454 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 9: our state. Right now, there are some patriotic millionaires who 455 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 9: stepped up. Okay, cut me the checks, I mean, just 456 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 9: if you want to be supportive. But maybe the first 457 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 9: step should be go down to Palm Beach and see 458 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 9: what you can bring back home because our tax base 459 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 9: has been eroded. So I philosophically don't have a problem. 460 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 9: It is like, I have to look at the fact 461 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 9: that we are in competition with other states who have 462 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 9: less of a tax burden on their corporations and their individuals. 463 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at large, Josh Hammer. Josh, 464 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: she wants high net worth individuals to return to New 465 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: York and cut her a check. 466 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 13: You know, Rita, If Kattie Hochel wants some wealthy people 467 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 13: to return to New York State, she has a very 468 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 13: simple and straightforward option at her table. Isses make it 469 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 13: less painful, Make it less painful to do business in 470 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 13: New York State. By the way, it's actually not just 471 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 13: Governor Hockel's terrible policies and all buty. Now there's the 472 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 13: additional layer of just the municipal policies in Zoramamdani's New 473 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 13: York City. And it's actually not just the new Mayor's 474 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 13: been happening in New York City for a long time. 475 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 14: Read. 476 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 13: I actually think back to the Lawfair, to the era 477 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 13: of the Lawfair against Donald Trump, when Alvin Bragg, the 478 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 13: sorrow's funded hack of a prosecutor there in the Manhattan 479 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 13: Die's office when he filed those ludicrous charges. And people, 480 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 13: this is two years already by these ludicrous charges again 481 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 13: involving Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen and this whole sorry's 482 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 13: story there. And then you had Tiss James, the Attorney 483 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 13: General of New York States, who was suing Donald Trump 484 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 13: and the Trump organization for one hundreds of million dollars 485 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 13: for what literally for what for engaging an alleged corporate fraud. No, 486 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 13: their financial their financial counterparties like Deutsche Bank actually wanted 487 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 13: to do more business. So the net effect of all 488 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 13: of this, as mister wonderful Kevin O'Leary so memorily put 489 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 13: the time, is to basically say to business, to capital, 490 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 13: to wealthy people there, get the heck out. You are 491 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 13: literally not welcome here in New York States. It has 492 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 13: been going on for a very very very long time. 493 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 13: I'm frankly not sure that there is such thing as 494 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 13: putting this genie back in the bottle. To your point, 495 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 13: a lot of people have left. I mean, hello, you're 496 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 13: truly I left when I was eighteen years old. Have 497 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 13: not looked back frankly, you know, in all my nineteen 498 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 13: years since then. 499 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 6: So I think it's. 500 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 13: Gonna take a lot of it's gonna take a lot 501 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 13: of very to try to get some people to crawl 502 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 13: back there. 503 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 6: But you can start at least Cavioki. 504 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 13: You can actually just start hit the very first, very 505 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 13: first little baby steps there by stop taking people off 506 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 13: who want to engage in business. That'll be a good start. 507 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: I think that would be a good start. You mentioned 508 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: a new mayor there. Since we last spoke, there've been 509 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: all sorts of new revelations about the online activity of 510 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: Mayor Zora and ma'am Danney's wife, and Pierce Rama has 511 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: not just got a history Josh of liking virulently anti 512 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: Israeli post she also has posted admiringly about terrorists. Tell 513 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: me about this. 514 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 13: Yeah, unfortunately, this is the least surprising thing, maybe like 515 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 13: literally ever, I mean, I mean, if this is a 516 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 13: guy who are Ma'm Danny reader, who who could not 517 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 13: bring himself to condemn the phrase global lives the interfire 518 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 13: until the very final months of the campaign, when he 519 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 13: kind of sort of maybe condemned it, recalled that this 520 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 13: particular phrase globalizing defada is the phrase that that resulted 521 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 13: in the murder of two Israeli embassy staffers in Washington 522 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 13: see last May that resulted in an illegal alien out 523 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 13: in Boulder, Colorado of Egyptian ancestry to throw a Molotov cocktail, 524 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 13: and that it ultimately led to the death of a 525 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 13: Holocaust survivor. In terms of Mamdonni forever to condemn this phrase. 526 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 13: This is a man who would within hours of the 527 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 13: October seven, twenty twenty three Hamas per gram was blaming 528 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 13: Israel for their for their own pagram against on their 529 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 13: So his wife has been essentially been caught red handed 530 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 13: liking and promoting various Instagram posts, various social media posts 531 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 13: in the immediate aftermath of the aforementioned October seven, twenty 532 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 13: twenty three program that didn't just fail to condemn what 533 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 13: Hamas did on that terrible day, actually celebrate it. So 534 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 13: that this is Palestinian liberation, This is from the river 535 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 13: to the sea in action that they had impressed people 536 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 13: must come at their oppressor by any means necessary. And 537 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 13: what do you think we meant when we said by 538 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 13: any means necessary? I mean this is quite appalling stuff. 539 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 13: And again They're only doubling and tripling down this. They 540 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 13: just had Maka mu khalil Uh, the reprobrate from Columbia University, 541 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 13: the noted Hamas activists on canvas there. Ma'm Didne just 542 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 13: hosted him for a Ramadan Eftar breakfast dinner at Gracie Mansion. 543 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 13: So it's only getting worse from here, retail. My only 544 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 13: question is how long are New yorker is going to 545 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 13: deal with this? And I mean, how much longer are 546 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 13: you guys going to just sit there and take it? 547 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: There? 548 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 6: Am I saying that? 549 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 13: I mean, he has a term, But I mean, surely 550 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 13: you can do something to try to mitigate the DOWND 551 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 13: right now. 552 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 6: I haven't seen a whole lot of that. Frankly, thus far. 553 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: Them, well, you vote for crazy, you get crazy. They 554 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: knew what they were getting. I mean, that's very hard 555 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: to feel any sympathy for New Yorkers when they vote 556 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: for this sort of stuff over and over again, and 557 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: it seems to just be getting worse now. Josha tell 558 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: me about this group of hard left activists going to 559 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: communist Cuba. They're there now not to advocate for freedom, 560 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: but they are meeting with the Communist Party officials over there, 561 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: and they're there to slam the US. These pampered leftists 562 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: are staying in luxury hotels and enjoying comforts like air 563 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: conditioning and electricity, and just living in a manner that 564 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: the average Cuban can only dream off. 565 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 13: Josh, Yeah, this is the whole new Greta Thumberg style diplomacy. 566 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 6: Let's call it, right. 567 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 13: I mean why, I mean, when Greta did those flotellas 568 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 13: to Gaza and she was promptly arrested by the IDEF, 569 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 13: who could have possibly guessed Reader, that would have happened. 570 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 13: I mean, now they're trying to do the same thing 571 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 13: with Cuba. The remarkable thing, reader, is that we have, 572 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 13: and by we I mean the United States, We currently 573 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 13: have Cuba on their knees. They've literally conceded. They have 574 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 13: actually said publicly that they are now negotiating with the 575 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 13: United States of America, perhaps specifically with Marco Rubio or 576 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 13: Cuban American Secretary of State, and this various underlings. We 577 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 13: have the regime that there's only ninety miles to our 578 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 13: south on the brink of collapse, by far, in ninety'class, 579 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 13: by far the most has ever been since the revolutionaries 580 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 13: took power there in the late nineteen fifties. A communist 581 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 13: Cuba goes back twenty years, even longer than the islmust 582 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 13: revolution over and ram And this has been a problem 583 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 13: for the United States for a very, very long time. 584 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 13: And we have these outrageous, outrageous subverse actors who have 585 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 13: chosen this time, this time to try to bail out 586 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 13: this regime. I mean, these people are actively rooting for 587 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 13: the enemies of the United States and rooting for the 588 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 13: enemies Western civilization are. 589 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 6: Fortunately, this is a tail as. 590 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 13: Old as time there are for so long readA there 591 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 13: have been people on the left who are actually rooting 592 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 13: against the United States. But it's one thing to root 593 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 13: in your most callous and black of hearts. It's one 594 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 13: thing to root against the United States. Is another thing 595 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 13: to take an action like this. What I will say, though, 596 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 13: just in closing here, is that a lot of these 597 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 13: aforementioned five star hotels which you've alluded to there, a 598 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 13: lot of them are sanctioned, a lot of them are 599 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 13: on various US blacklists because of long standing the embargo 600 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 13: and various sanctions on Cuba. You're not really allowed to 601 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 13: stay at a lot of these hotels there, so a 602 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 13: lot of these folks actually are actually risking prosecution here. 603 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 13: I happen to live here in South Florida, which is 604 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 13: the closest in the US to Cuba. There I think 605 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 13: it would probably be a pretty good dear, Frankly, for 606 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 13: the US Attorney's Office here in the sun days of Florida, 607 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 13: if you start looking into some possible creative charges against 608 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 13: these individuals who are staying in US sanctioned hotels in 609 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 13: the Lake. They're ninety miles south of the First Shores. 610 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: That is a very good point. I did not think 611 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: of that. And in this convoy to Cuba is a 612 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: very high profile streamer, Hassan Piker. What in God's name 613 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: is he doing in Cuba, Josh. This guy has a 614 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: multimillion dollar property, He's got a massive following, very wealthy, 615 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: and yet he advocates for Marxist ideology. Make it make 616 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: sense to me, Josh. 617 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 13: Well, reader, I can't make it make sense. Hu's a 618 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 13: Piker is one of the most scummy villain's individuals in 619 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 13: all of American media. 620 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 6: And that is Frankly saying. 621 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 14: Along. 622 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 6: The stuff that this guy says is just frankly hetineous. 623 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 13: He frankly, frankly sounds like like a Nazi sometimes speaking 624 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 13: about Israel's being the Jews. That's really non exaggeration. I 625 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 13: mean he speaks glowingly of what Hamas did Onctober seventh. 626 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 13: There he's he's outright praising it, much like Zero Mandanni's wife. 627 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: There. 628 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 13: He is a self avowed Communist Marxist. This guy is 629 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 13: as out there as it gets. And the worst part 630 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 13: Rita is that he is welcome the deed. He is faded. 631 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 13: He is lauded by many Democrat officials, most recently was 632 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 13: ro Kahana, the Epstein Files obsessed congressmen out of California. 633 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 13: There he was saying that Hassan Pike, it was great. 634 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 13: I stand with the San Piker there. It's it's it's 635 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 13: just disgusting stuff. But I will say I've actually been 636 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 13: to Cuba. It's pretty rare for Americans to go. I've 637 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 13: actually been to Cuba. I've seen it for myself. You 638 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 13: cannot possibly see Cuba. Rita, which along with North Korea, 639 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 13: is by one of the last examples of true legitimate 640 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 13: communists remaining on planet Earth. This utterly failed, terrific urdorous violence, 641 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 13: failed ideology. I've actually seen it. And when you actually 642 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 13: see Cuba, when you see this beautiful water, Havana could. 643 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 6: Be in an amazing city. 644 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 13: Really, it has so much potential there, and you see 645 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 13: these buildings. 646 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 6: It's dilapidated. 647 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 13: It looks like it looks like a rock circle of 648 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 13: two thousand and five, like bombs went off there. There's 649 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 13: stray dogs, people are skeletal, they're banging for scrap, there's 650 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 13: immense poverty. It's just sad. And no one can see 651 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 13: what I saw in my fairly brief trip four or 652 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 13: five days whatever it was, seven years ago to Cuba. 653 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 13: No one can see that in come way thinking that 654 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 13: communism is good. So there's a perverse part of me 655 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 13: that actually helps that if there's any silver lining out 656 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 13: of this outrageous stunt, that we actually start getting some 657 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 13: more images and videos of the real Cuba. Now that's 658 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 13: not gonna happen, right, because they're probably going to do 659 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 13: lots of tailored images and heavily doctor but maybe, maybe, 660 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 13: maybe there there's a small chance for at least some 661 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 13: people to get something closer to the real story. In 662 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 13: the meantime, though I would prosecute to Son Piker in 663 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 13: the lake. 664 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, some of the saints coming out of there, I 665 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: just really quite grotesque. So you got these rich liberals 666 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: from America with their brand new iPhones taking videos from 667 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: the air conditioned bus the of the poverty and of 668 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 2: the of the people, the poverty stricken people who are 669 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: living under communism. It really is quite perverse, and they 670 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: think they're helping them by doing that. Now to the 671 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: war in Iran, and Iran's military is threatening to completely 672 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: close the Strait of Hormuse if Donald Trump follows through 673 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: with his threat to destroy Iran's power plants. One House 674 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: Press Secretary of Caroline Leverett has explained that President Trump 675 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: expects NATO allies to pull their weight in helping to 676 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: open the Straits of Humus. 677 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 10: NATO allies benefit far more from the reopening of the 678 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 10: Street of Hermus than the United States does. As you know, 679 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 10: thanks to this President's energy agenda. 680 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 2: We are in net ex border of oil. 681 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 10: We have enough resources here at home for our people, 682 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 10: and that's a good thing. Thanks to President Trump. The 683 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 10: street opening is obviously good for America because it will 684 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 10: stabilize them the global oil industry. It will bring prices 685 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 10: down again, but it greatly benefits Europe and our allies 686 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 10: in NATO, and the President wants to see them do more. 687 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 2: Josh, it appears NATO again expects America to do all 688 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: the heavy lifting, even though they're the ones that are 689 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: reliant on foreign oil. 690 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 691 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 13: Rito, this is actually my lead story of my own 692 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 13: show this past Friday. NATO has never looked more useless 693 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 13: than the currently dos. Literally, I'm not sure it actually 694 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 13: ever has. If Ever, there was a time, if ever, 695 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 13: there was a time for NATO, and especially the western 696 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 13: European country of NATO, the wealthy European countries. They are Britain, UK, France, Italy, Germany, 697 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 13: et cetera. If ever there was a time, guys, for 698 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 13: you to come to the defense of by far the 699 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 13: number one funder and defender of NATO, which is the 700 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 13: United States. There this would be the time, and this 701 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 13: would be the time for a whole host of reasons. 702 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 13: One is that the President United States is it's basically 703 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 13: begging you to do it. Two, just as importantly, it's 704 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 13: not more importantly there these European counts are much more 705 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 13: in the direct crossfire in missile range of Iran than. 706 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 6: The United States is actually there. 707 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 13: So, if ever there was a time guys to come 708 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 13: and lock arms and join forces with the President of 709 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 13: United States and the United States more ginerally, this really 710 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 13: would be the time. I continue to think, Rita, what 711 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 13: is the point of NATO in the year twenty twenty six. 712 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 13: I'm honestly not sure that I could tell you. NATO 713 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 13: was founded in nineteen forty nine as an anti Soviets alliance. 714 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 13: It made a lot of sense, and of course that 715 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 13: mission was famously accomplished. You had Ronald Reagan, Magnue Thatcher, 716 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 13: John Paul the Second, then you have the defeat of communism. 717 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 13: But this happened a long time ago. The Berlin Wall 718 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 13: literally fell in the year I was born nineteen eighty nine, 719 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 13: and the Soviet uniformly dissolves into the Russian Federation two 720 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 13: years later in ninet ninety one. Here we are, three 721 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 13: and a half decades after that. What is the point 722 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 13: exactly of this organization other than just to give essentially 723 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 13: an escape patch, to allow a bunch of free riders 724 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 13: there on the European confident. When it comes to the 725 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 13: American taxpayer, I'm genuinely I'm not sure how they good 726 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 13: answer that question there. I'm not saying that America can 727 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 13: go it along. I very much value bilateral relations. Bilateral alliances. 728 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 13: Israel's frankly good examples they've proven of the course of 729 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 13: this war effort there. But if you're going to be 730 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 13: in an outlly of the United States, you probably should 731 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 13: actually act like one and not just basically benefit from 732 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 13: our from the American taxpayer largest which is basically a 733 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 13: cure storm ammanual coron all the rest of these bums 734 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 13: are currently doing. 735 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: Now, before you go, Josh, you wrote in the La 736 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: Times recently about climate change elamism is that it's diminishing, 737 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 2: and there's a growing doubt about the catastrophic climate predictions 738 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: we've heard for well decades. Now, tell me about that, 739 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: because there has been some recent polling showing young people 740 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 2: in particular no longer see climate change as a top 741 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: tier issue. 742 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 13: Yeah, So the longer story is basically what you say 743 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 13: is that the polling is starting to level off a 744 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 13: little bit. For a long time, this was an ever 745 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 13: ascending issue around the time of Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth. 746 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 6: For about a decade after that, it. 747 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 13: Really just seemed like younger Americans were trending in an 748 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 13: ordently pro greeny, pro radical, pro environmentalist direction. The polls 749 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 13: have genuinely leveled off. But the big thing to me 750 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 13: that got me thinking more about this issue Rego was 751 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 13: that Bill Gates himself was one of the Douyennes show 752 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 13: say when the Douillens of climate change alarm is along 753 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 13: with Al Gore, Bill Gates wrote a blog post really 754 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 13: kind of slipped under the radar at his own website 755 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 13: this past October, I believe it was at his foundation's 756 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 13: website where he said where he essentially said, you know what, 757 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 13: I was formally of the opinion that the world is 758 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 13: going to end because of this, and you know what, 759 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 13: I think I actually was probably overstaying it. 760 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 6: Don't get it wrong. 761 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 13: It's still not great, blah blah blahlah blah, but the 762 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 13: world's not gonna end. And I saw that, I was like, uh, 763 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 13: that's a big concession. Actually, that's essentially one hundred eighty 764 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 13: degree flip flop. And there's been a lot of similar 765 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 13: instances like that. So I think that the cat is 766 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 13: out of the bag on this one, that Democrats are 767 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 13: starting to realize that this is a losing issue. 768 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 6: In my estimation. 769 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 13: The number one reason younger Americans are starting to pull 770 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 13: in a slightly more realistic direction on this issue is 771 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 13: because the cost of wiving here is difficult enough as 772 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 13: it is when it comes to income. When it comes 773 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 13: to fact that two thirds of Americans the patriot the 774 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 13: patriot there no one wants to deal with the artificially 775 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 13: inflated prices that. 776 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 6: Come with the radical greening genders. 777 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 13: This is basically a massive wager by Democrats starting about 778 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 13: two decades ago, again with Al Gore and the whole 779 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 13: superdocumentary and all that crap. But at this point I 780 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 13: think that the checks are in and the checks and 781 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 13: fortune Democrats are avowedly bouncing. 782 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 2: I would say, Josh Hamma, thank you so much for 783 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: your time, Thank you so much. Rita still to come 784 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: all the latest royal and entertainment us including claims singer 785 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: Chapel Roone may Jude Law's young daughter cry, how dare she? 786 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield has the details. Welcome back joining me now, 787 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 2: celebrity commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, We've got to talk about 788 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: pop star Chapel Roan. Now, a lot of our viewers 789 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 2: won't even know who that is. But she thinks she 790 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 2: is the biggest star in the world. And she's been 791 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 2: accused of making Jude Law's eleven year old daughter cry 792 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 2: during an interaction in Brazil. She apparently sent her bodyguard 793 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: to criticize the young girl and scold her mother. Kinsey 794 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: tell me about this, it just seems like an incredible interaction. 795 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 14: Yeah, so it's actually her stepfather that posted about it 796 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 14: on social media, saying that his stepdaughter just wanted to 797 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 14: confirm that it was her, walked past her table and 798 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 14: then a big, tough, angry, mean security guard came got 799 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 14: in her face and made her cry. Now Ron has 800 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 14: made a video saying, oh, I had nothing to do 801 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 14: with it. He's not my personal bodyguard. But there are 802 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 14: plenty of examples of Roan misbehaving when it comes to 803 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 14: fan engagement, misbehaving when it comes to photographers on a carpet, 804 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 14: like when she's there to perform for those photographers. So 805 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 14: I'm not buying it, Rita, I think that she probably 806 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 14: did have my personal opinion, I think she probably did 807 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 14: make some like snooty comment that sent this security guard 808 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 14: over to scold this baby. And I think the only 809 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 14: reason she's fake apologizing is because it's Jude Law's daughter. 810 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 2: Exactly. And it is Jude Law's daughter, that child is 811 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: used to being around famous people. The stepfather you mentioned 812 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: is a soccer star. So to suggest that this eleven 813 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 2: year old was behaving a poorly or intruding aunt Chappelle 814 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 2: having her breakfast seems fairly nonsensical. And you mentioned the behavior. 815 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: Let's have a look at this clip. Let's see how 816 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 2: she treats her fans. Here she claims they are perhaps 817 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 2: harassing her, even though she's the one who's shown up 818 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 2: to a celebrity hotspot, disregarded as a human. This is 819 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: what it's like. 820 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 10: So I'm just trying to go to dinner and I've 821 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 10: asked these people several times to get away from. 822 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:09,479 Speaker 2: Person. 823 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: I've asked several. 824 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 2: Times to go away, and they will not. They're hiding 825 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: their face because they're a tread pass them. These are 826 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: all the people completely disregarding all of the So this 827 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: is then go away, so all of you, oh kids, 828 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 2: she ain't the most likable pop star. I can't put 829 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 2: it any more nicely than that. 830 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 14: I mean, being a pop star means living in the spotlight, 831 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 14: and that spotlight is powered by fans when Rowan's shows 832 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 14: open frustration to them or to photographers, it reads as 833 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 14: completely ungrateful. Boundaries are reasonable, but hostility is not. 834 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 2: And I loved in that clip where she said that 835 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 2: you know this character is so ashamed he's hiding his 836 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 2: face and that he just smiles right at the Cameron 837 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: says hello. So uh yeah that I'm surprised she posted 838 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 2: that clip. I wouldn't have posted it now. A source 839 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 2: close to the matter has told the UK Telegraph that 840 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 2: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle could lose their bid for 841 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 2: taxpay funded security in the UK due to concerns of 842 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 2: a public backlash. Kinsey, what more can you tell me 843 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 2: about this? 844 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? 845 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 14: So, the political side of the committee making this decision 846 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 14: believes there is too much political risk that people will 847 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 14: rise up and be angry about having to fork up 848 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 14: such a significant amount of money to protect these two, 849 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 14: while the police and security chiefs believe that Harry absolutely 850 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 14: must have according again him quoting, must have increase security 851 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 14: due to threats. Ultimately, RITA, what we think they want 852 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 14: is IPP status. IPP stands for internationally Protected person. It's 853 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 14: normally applied to presidents, prime ministers and diplomats. If someone 854 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 14: has been designated the IPP status, countries are obligated to 855 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 14: provide heightened security protection for them, no matter what country 856 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 14: it is. For Harry and Meghan, the incentive seems to 857 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 14: be international. Well, I think the incentive is ego primarily, 858 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 14: but also finance because international government level protection would dramatically 859 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 14: reduce the cost of their private security. That would save 860 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 14: the Sussexes millions of dollars. 861 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 2: Now, insiders have told Page six that Bride'smaid star Rebel 862 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 2: Wilson is her own worst enemy. After she unleashed several 863 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 2: social media sprays against her so called enemies, including billionaire 864 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 2: Selene Lavitic Kinsey. She's had some fairly high profile clashes, 865 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: including with Sessha Baron Cohen. 866 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 14: She I mean girl, Rita, Like, we are we finding 867 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 14: out that she might have a dark side? 868 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean. 869 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 14: Now, Rebel Wilson is being accused of what Blake Lively 870 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 14: and Just Baldoni really put on the map recently, an 871 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 14: online smear campaign with the objective of damaging someone's project, movie, 872 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 14: or career. Is this a new strategy in Hollywood? Absolutely not, 873 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 14: But due to the interest surrounding the Baldoni case, I 874 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 14: think you will see more lawsuits like this one that 875 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 14: exposed the really ugly side of Hollywood. I will stress though, 876 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 14: that I don't think Rebel's going to come out of 877 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 14: this looking squeaky clean. I think it's already having a 878 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 14: negative effect on her personal brand, and I wonder if 879 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 14: she will struggle to get work going forward now. 880 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 2: A report in The Daily Mail claims that Usher popstar 881 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 2: Usher feels underappreciated by his former mente Justin Bieber. Why 882 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 2: has Justin Bieber distanced himself from Usher. There's a picture 883 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 2: of the pair of them at the moment that's gone 884 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 2: viral where fifty cent has had some words to say. 885 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 2: I won't repeat it here, Kinziekuls. We could get sued. 886 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 2: But there are all sorts of unsavory allegations flying around well. 887 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 14: Sources tell The Daily Mail that Bieber and Usher clashed 888 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 14: at an Oscars party recently, with Justin's camp someone anonymously 889 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 14: stressing that Usher did not protect Justin Bieber when he 890 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,959 Speaker 14: introduced him into the world as a child pop star. 891 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 14: Whether from a moral perspective or a financial perspective, and 892 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 14: maybe both, We're not certain, but Justin has struggled with 893 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 14: his mental health as an adult and seems to resent 894 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 14: a lot of the original team. 895 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I think fifty cent knows a little bit about this, 896 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: and I do wonder whether there'll be another documentary on 897 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 2: these sorts of issues that we're touching on now. Sag 898 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 2: Harbor Police have released bodycam footage from Justin Timberlake's twenty 899 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 2: twenty four DUI arrest, despite the singer's attempts to block it. 900 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 2: Here is struggling to complete field sobriety tests after he 901 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 2: was pulled over fool allegedly running a stop sign. 902 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 4: Good, but you're right, but in front of your left 903 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 4: to stay just like that, Okay, you. 904 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: Give me heal the toe like this field to It's 905 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: a normal process. 906 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, everything is pretty standard. 907 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: Do I think specifically that you are wondering or. 908 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,240 Speaker 2: Just no, no, no, I just. 909 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 12: Wondered, like like you really cut. 910 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 6: People up and yeah, all right, it might not be 911 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 6: this one, it might be over the other one. 912 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: And they actually had nks for. 913 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 2: Him as wow, man, kinzie, why is this coming out now? 914 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 2: This is almost two years. 915 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 14: Old because media has requested it. There was a Freedom 916 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 14: of Information Act request and Timberlake sued fought to keep it, 917 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 14: you know, locked away, because the police station did tell 918 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 14: TMZ at the time that it happened that they would 919 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 14: not be releasing the body camp So somebody was technically 920 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 14: dishonest here. But can I just tell you, drinking and 921 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 14: dry is horrible. But if Justin Timberlake was afraid that 922 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 14: this video would ruin him, it's had the opposite effect. 923 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 14: The internet is actually has. 924 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,479 Speaker 11: Oh they're they're dying over Justin looking at the cop 925 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 11: and questioning why the cop wrote white under his race, 926 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 11: and then he starts cracking up, and then the cop 927 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 11: giggles and he's like just kidding. I mean, people are watching. 928 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 14: This going they feel real, real sympathy for him. And 929 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 14: yes he's an idiot, Yes he shouldn't have done it, 930 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 14: but he's so disappointed at himself. It's so raw, it's 931 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 14: so real, and you can't help but go ooh, tough 932 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 14: break guy. 933 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 12: It is. 934 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,240 Speaker 2: That's that's the shocking thing. He's he thought, he fought 935 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: to keep this footage hidden and it's weirdly helped him. Kidsys, goofield, 936 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 2: thanks so much for your time, and that's it from me. 937 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is up next.