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Speaker 2: So I'm talking to blokes here, but maybe not necessarily.

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Speaker 2: Maybe girls had them too, or maybe their brothers did

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Speaker 2: train sets, who had a train set when they were little.

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Speaker 2: I did Figure of eight initially and it kind of

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Speaker 2: grew into a proper train set, but I don't have

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Speaker 2: the need for space. But I'm interested to see. As

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Speaker 2: has been the case for many years, the Adelaide Model

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Speaker 2: generally is in June and has been, as I say,

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Speaker 2: for well decades now. The organizer, Matt la Vista from

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Speaker 2: the Adelaide Model Railway Show, Matt, good evening.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Matthew, thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. So tell me about the

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Speaker 2: Adelaide Model Railway Show. Obviously a lot of people's hard

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, another year comes very fast, I'll see you

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Speaker 3: that much. We've got a whole little dedicated people from

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Speaker 3: and the best here in South Australia of course, and

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Speaker 3: we've been going since the mid eighties, well forty years originally, yes,

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Speaker 3: almost forty years. Yes, we used to be a buy

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Speaker 2: So how do people get their train sets there? Because

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Speaker 2: some areqite I've been before, and some are quite big.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we have basically a full compliment of all sorts

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Speaker 3: that you'll need a proper, good sized shed for all

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Speaker 3: shapes and sizes. It can be as simple as someone

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Speaker 3: Bridgewater as it was exactly in nineteen eighty three, down

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Speaker 3: to the last fence post.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you're on the whole gamut of that that

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Speaker 1: It's unrealism't and you're right. Some do that.

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Speaker 2: They recreate suburban railway stations and the detail when they

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Speaker 2: do is incredible. Including surrounding streets you know, in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. West Cordon is one of the better examples of

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Speaker 3: And it's almost as though a living history in its

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Speaker 3: give you so much, but when you add the movement

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Speaker 3: And yeah that West Croydon is backed by popular demand

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Speaker 1: Better Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The motivation behind this, I suppose a lot of people

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Of course there's lucky as like you say, in

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Speaker 3: the old days, you've got your hornby doub low train

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Speaker 2: Incredible something for all ages, no doubt, you say, simple

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Speaker 3: Absolutely yes. And then we've got a lot of layouts

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Speaker 3: thing is you've got this year we have a wonderful

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's that's absolutely right. Hey, I made

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Speaker 3: when it is it is a hobby that can be enjoyed,

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Speaker 3: but everybody. It's not an old man's hobby. It's not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that's absolutely right too.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the scales you mentioned Hornby, as I recall, it

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Speaker 3: A long story short? H O and Doublow share the

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Speaker 3: about the smallest trains I think we have at this

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Speaker 3: we unfortunately don't have this here. It's so small it

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Speaker 3: And of course we go all the way up. This

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Speaker 2: Okay, these are the right on ones, the ones you

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so they'll be there too, that's correct.

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Speaker 3: You not Unfortunately they won't be taking anyone for a ride,

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, there's a lot of side action I noticed

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Speaker 3: Absolutely yes, and you will definitely learn something and something

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Speaker 3: you know, you can oh, I like this trainer might

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so people will be able to see

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Speaker 3: All sorts steam engines, these or the railcars, all sorts

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you give away the proceeds, don't you. It

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Speaker 3: Dirrect all of us and so interception. All of our

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Speaker 2: This is one event. But are people members of are

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Speaker 1: There's a fetish out there for everyone, isn't there.

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Speaker 3: Basically yeah, to pick your poison and you enjoy it. Me,

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Speaker 1: So have you got something on display there that people

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. We have one first time exit we've never had before,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, up and down thing. Yeah right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I won't say anymore, but take it close to look

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Speaker 1: Wow. All right, so that's going to be down there.

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Speaker 2: You know you mentioned Malang and I was down there

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Speaker 1: Been ten years since I was last there.

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Speaker 2: And the railway, I mean, you can't miss it, right,

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Speaker 2: you can't miss the railway station. But I remember ten

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Speaker 1: I really brought it.

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Speaker 3: Back, Yeah, absolutely. And it's not just that that what

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Speaker 3: that there were more than seven hundred light railways at

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Speaker 3: and there's about twelve of them left now. If you're

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Speaker 3: it's down at Semaphore, you've got a little train that

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Speaker 3: runs between Semaphore and poor Glanville and that's where it

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we're really clear to have them there this

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Speaker 3: year to show up sort of what they've been doing

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're ever going to get railway back

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Speaker 2: in regional essay now that you mentioned seven hundred what

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Speaker 2: light rail you say, but you know, just even all

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Speaker 2: the tracks that went regionally and people keep saying should

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Speaker 2: the fact that you know, you would know very well,

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Speaker 2: forget about that the model trains, how much it would

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Speaker 3: They're around Barker around the lack of railways. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: the amount that they're spending on South Road alone with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, this is true. It's only money ultimately, basically.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, it would be the sort of

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Speaker 3: I think we will see a little bit more expansion,

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Speaker 3: but how much it remains to be seen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Meantime, the Adelaide Model Railway Show on a Greyhound park

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Speaker 2: there at Regency Park. And what's the cost of family

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Speaker 3: A cost of family? Good question. So it's twenty four

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Speaker 3: says me. Right, it's the same as last year. We

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Speaker 3: It's off my head.

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Speaker 1: Have a look at the website. There is a website.

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Speaker 2: Just google Adelaide Model Railway Show and you'll find it.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, yes, if you also b to the tickets online,

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Speaker 3: there's slightly changed for we're twenty twenty three prices if

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Speaker 3: to the casual cards. You just go ahead and come

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Speaker 3: and see that. All the exhibits for free parking, and

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Speaker 3: there's also some food on site as well upstairs. The

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Speaker 3: good people of Greyhound Park on a nice work there,

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Speaker 3: and if not, you can go for a pub mill

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Speaker 3: next door at Chases Restaurant.

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Speaker 2: Well of you, what did you say? Thirty three years

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Speaker 2: this has been running? I reckon, I've been I reckon.

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Speaker 1: And there's always a good crowd there.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's busy moving around through the different

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Speaker 2: that goes into these exhibitions, just tremendous hours of work.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like I said, some of them are relatively sort

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Speaker 3: to come down. There is a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 3: so yeah, and all the prices they get.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're at Wednesday. Are people starting to set up now?

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Speaker 3: I feel've been starting for I think the last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks really, But on Fridays when all the everyone

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Speaker 3: we have to be a one Monday afternoon after so

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Speaker 3: so's taking their setups out of their storage, just in

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Speaker 1: How about that. Good on you, Matt. Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 2: Hope it goes well over the weekend three days, isn't

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct, Yes, beautiful, that's try a model railway

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Speaker 1: Fantastic there. Hope everyone enjoys it. Thanks for your time anytime.

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Speaker 2: Thank you you too, Matt la Vista from the Adelaide

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Speaker 2: Model Railway Show and at Greyhound Park as it is

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Speaker 2: every year and has been there since I think he said,

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Speaker 2: last post on the railway station and whatever else. Incredible detail,

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Speaker 2: but there it is. If you've been kids love it,

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Speaker 2: kids grandkids take them along. They love it. So it's

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Speaker 2: And as I said, we went a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: I think it was a Monday afternoon and quite enjoyed

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