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Speaker 1: Apoche Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

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Speaker 3: Pokers When We're on holidays? I made my kids for

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Speaker 3: the first time.

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Speaker 4: Because we took the dogs away on holidays, the girls

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Speaker 4: and I. So it's just the three of us now

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Speaker 4: taking dogs on a holiday. It's actually more stressful than

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Speaker 4: taking more kids on a holiday. That was number one,

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Speaker 4: But number two was when our dogs are at home,

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Speaker 4: we have enough.

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Speaker 3: Land for them to when they go and do a

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Speaker 3: dogg eat.

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Speaker 4: Number two, we don't have to pick it up because

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Speaker 4: they go off to like the bush areas in our

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Speaker 4: yard and so we don't really see them or they

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Speaker 4: just get mode over.

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Speaker 3: Now, when we went on.

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Speaker 4: This particular holiday, there was nowhere for them to do

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Speaker 4: it other than like this grass area which they canntinued

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Speaker 4: to do it on, but we had to pick it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you have to leave the Was it like

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Speaker 1: an Airbnb?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to leave a nice Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I hate it.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I did? Am I A Bad Mom?

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Speaker 4: I was like, they're your dogs, you get.

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Speaker 3: To pick up dog.

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Speaker 2: When we agreed to get a dog, I said to

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Speaker 2: the girls, we are only getting a dog if we

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Speaker 2: are all going to pick up the poop. How many

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Speaker 2: times you reckon they have in the last ten years?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? None. Elsie, out of both of them, I thought

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Speaker 3: she was going to be the one that.

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Speaker 4: Was kinde of helpful with it. Else was the one

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Speaker 4: that I had to sort of like, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: Gracie's done the last two pick it up, and she

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Speaker 4: was like, you're such a bad mum making us do it.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you do it? You could do it too.

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Speaker 1: They're your dogs and my girls.

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Speaker 2: If I've asked them to do something like that, they'll

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Speaker 2: look at me and go, what are you doing? Yeah, like,

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Speaker 2: I do nothing else.

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: I hid behind this one, Katie because I genuinely like,

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Speaker 4: unless I'm on the street and I have to put

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Speaker 4: on a front, which happened a few times because we are,

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Speaker 4: and Grazie's like, mom, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I have to pick it up.

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Speaker 4: I would pick it up, but then I'm almost dry

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Speaker 4: reaching doing it. Honestly, it's just not my jam. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know whose jam it is to pick up

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Speaker 4: dog boo. But Gracie was great with it. Elsie not

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Speaker 4: so much. But there were so many times where you know,

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Speaker 4: we say it every week in and week out.

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Speaker 3: Am I bad mum?

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Speaker 4: My kids were turning on me and you are such

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Speaker 4: a bad mum making us pick up dog poop.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'll get a grip.

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Speaker 1: It's resilient building, pick.

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Speaker 3: This shit up. Let's keep moving.

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Speaker 2: My mad mum for wanting to force them. I remember

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Speaker 2: a while ago we had.

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Speaker 3: A nutritionist it's not the word dietitian.

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Speaker 2: Dietitian yeah yeah, on the podcast yeah, and we were

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Speaker 2: talking about kids' food habits and what we should and

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be doing with them. So one of the things

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Speaker 2: she said was we should never be Everything she said

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Speaker 2: not to do was pretty much what I did do

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Speaker 2: for many years and probably still do, which was you

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Speaker 2: shouldn't make your kids sit there and force them to eat. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: for example, if they're not eating vegetables, she should all

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Speaker 2: show that you're all having vegetables, have it there for

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Speaker 2: them to choose. And her theory was at some point,

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Speaker 2: if they see you eating that stuff, they will eat it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how is that going for you with Elsie?

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Speaker 1: Not very well?

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Speaker 4: No? Well, I took that on board with what she

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Speaker 4: said because I thought, oh yeah, because she sort of

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Speaker 4: said like, it's almost like you put all of the

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Speaker 3: Totally respect and agree.

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Speaker 4: I though, still had that little piece of going like,

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Speaker 4: that's the bowl of broccoli, you need two pieces on

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Speaker 3: She'd serve it up.

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Speaker 4: That's all good, and it has been okay with broccoli

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Speaker 4: and with all the select vegetables she does eat. But otherwise,

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Speaker 4: like if I put a bowl of spinach out that

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Speaker 4: she don't get eaten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I had the same thing with me

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Speaker 2: because my girls are not and I would be like,

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Speaker 2: you will sit there until you've had.

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Speaker 1: One piece of chicken.

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Speaker 2: I did everything I did the whole You'll have it

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Speaker 2: in your lunchbox tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You'll sit there all.

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Speaker 2: Night long until you've eaten it. She was also saying this.

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Speaker 2: Dietitian was also saying that never used dessert as a reward,

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Speaker 2: and I would do exactly that. You're not having ice

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Speaker 2: cream if you don't eat dinner.

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Speaker 3: All of that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this story continues around my bad habits as a

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Speaker 2: parent with forcing my kids to eat their dinner.

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Speaker 3: In that so I worked a little bit on board,

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Speaker 3: but then I didn't really.

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Speaker 2: So we were out for lunch and we were in

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Speaker 2: this particular restaurant, just like a pub restaurant, anything fancy,

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Speaker 2: and the girls ordered a pizza. It wasn't super fancy,

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Speaker 2: but it was still on the more expensive side of

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Speaker 2: pub food, I felt like.

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Speaker 1: And they ate half the pizza, I would say, and.

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Speaker 2: Then they had some other little bits as well, and

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Speaker 2: I was fine with them not eating the last bits

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Speaker 2: of pizza. However, the lady, the waitress, came around and

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Speaker 2: she went, oh, would you like a doggy bag? See

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Speaker 2: can take that away, and Holly turned around straight away,

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Speaker 2: didn't even think about it when I thank you.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, it.

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Speaker 2: Really bothered me, like there was something inside me that

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Speaker 2: was really triggered, because immediately I went, of course she

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Speaker 2: doesn't because she didn't pay for it. Oh, I was

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Speaker 2: just gonna say, of course, she doesn't give a shit,

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Speaker 2: just throw it away and then we'll buy another one

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Speaker 2: when she's hungry later. It just really irritated me that

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Speaker 2: a complete lack of understanding of that was my money

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Speaker 2: that paid for that pizza. Yeah, I hate waste, and

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Speaker 2: I you know, I'm not leaving a fine dining restaurant

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Speaker 2: with a doggie bag.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I I'm completely the same.

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Speaker 2: I would be embarrassed to do that. However, this was

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Speaker 2: a situation where the waitress offered, and.

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Speaker 1: You know just what people do, and in my mind

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Speaker 1: I was like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's great, we're gonna take that in a couple

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Speaker 2: of hours.

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Speaker 3: Time get a little hungry.

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Speaker 1: When you're hungry, you can have a pizza. We can

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Speaker 1: heat up.

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Speaker 2: But no, turn the nose down at it, like, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't want leftovers. I don't want to take leftovers.

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Speaker 2: Let a big leftovers fan. I'm like, no, we can

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Speaker 2: absolutely have another meal out of that tomorrow. Love not

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Speaker 2: being wasteful.

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Speaker 4: I'm a one day after leftovers kind of girl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but anything further, I'm like, dogs will have.

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Speaker 2: That unless it's Christmas ham in which yeah, weeks things

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Speaker 2: that she'll eat the next day.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Otherwise I'm like no. Now the pizza situation, I.

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Speaker 4: Would have one hundred percent done because that is so

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Speaker 4: transferable to like can eat it hot, you can eat

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Speaker 2: And there's a vegetarian pizzasfoo.

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Speaker 3: So it doesn't really like it's not going to be

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Speaker 4: It would have been a little bit to do with

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Speaker 4: like your distaste would have been a little bit to

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Speaker 4: do with, yes, wasting food because I know that you

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Speaker 4: it's not your jam, but it would have been are

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Speaker 4: along the lines of her dismissive behavior.

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Speaker 2: It was the same kind of feeling I get when

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Speaker 2: you make a lunch box for them to take to

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Speaker 2: the day empty it out and just throw it.

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Speaker 1: In the bin.

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Speaker 2: Stuff that's unopened, stuff that hasn't even been.

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Speaker 1: A little bit eaten, apple straight in the bin.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I've gone to the shop yesterday and I

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Speaker 2: have spent money that I have earned on this stuff.

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Speaker 1: To watch you throw it in the bin.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it makes me wild.

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Speaker 4: The same with though exactly so situation. But like not

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Speaker 4: an apple or the yogurts had to have these yogurts

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Speaker 4: had to have them, must go my lunch box. I'm

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Speaker 4: definitely gonna eat it. Three point thirty lunch box is

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Speaker 4: warm because the cold backs have gone gross. You can't

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Speaker 3: You were a wasteful little shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why did you waste this?

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Speaker 3: You had to have it this morning.

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Speaker 2: Because we didn't pay for it, so we don't give

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: That is one of my erks is when the lunch

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Speaker 4: put extra cold packs in now just for that reason

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Speaker 4: of like, I don't give a shit, sit down and

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Speaker 4: eat that.

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Speaker 3: If you're hungry, now, I eat it.

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Speaker 4: I'll give or take if there's ham in the seat,

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Speaker 4: like you know, and the ham looks a bit warm.

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Speaker 4: I'm not dealing with the repercussions of that or hot yogurt,

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Speaker 4: but in terms.

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Speaker 3: Of everything else, Yeah, if you're hungry, now I eat it.

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Speaker 4: And then that whole going back to like just say,

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Speaker 4: for instance, with that pizza someone was telling me about, like, yes,

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Speaker 4: you shouldn't make them sit at the dinner table until

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Speaker 4: they've finished it all, because then they get to that

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Speaker 4: uncomfortable stage of feeling uncomfortable and then it sort of

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Speaker 4: has a repercussion sort of like a ripple effect from it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all that stuff around, all that stuff portion

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Speaker 2: control and overeating, and they should be able to tell

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Speaker 2: you when I mean it's a fine line, because they

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Speaker 2: will tell you that they're full because they don't want

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Speaker 2: to eat any more broccoli.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the difference of that and someone it's been

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Speaker 4: interesting that you bring it up now. It was like

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Speaker 4: in the last couple of days, there's been two or

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Speaker 4: three people like talk about it to me and go.

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Speaker 4: If you can sit here and you definitely have checked

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Speaker 4: in it and you are way too full, you need

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Speaker 4: to know that this will be your last meal until

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Speaker 4: tomorrow morning, like night, and then that will be that

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Speaker 4: until breakfast. There will be nothing in between the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: It's a small board.

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Speaker 4: You don't just go in there and help yourself whenever

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Speaker 4: when I've done a cooked you a meal with all

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Speaker 4: the things that we're meant to be putting into our

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Speaker 4: body for all the right reasons.

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Speaker 3: If you are.

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Speaker 4: Genuinely, absolutely exhausted to the point that your stomach cannot

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Speaker 4: And it's worked for a couple of the families that

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Speaker 4: the holidays, the rains get loosened a little bit. It's

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Speaker 4: regressed with it and gone, yeah, no I'm not hungry.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm full now, but like within thirty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Oh can I have that pudding? Can I have that

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Speaker 3: ice cream? Nah? You can't, So like, just suit, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to.

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Speaker 1: See at the table.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to eat.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me started on it. Well, what do you

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Speaker 1: want me to do?

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Speaker 3: Chew the food for you?

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Speaker 4: Now? Oh you're only nearly a teenager, but I'll chew

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Speaker 4: the food for you so that you can like no,

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Speaker 4: one's too tired.

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Speaker 2: I'll say to my girls, whiche have for breakfast this morning?

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Speaker 2: And they're like really caty about it. I'm like, what

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Speaker 2: did you have? Bag shapes?

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Speaker 3: So lazy?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, there's plenty of stuff that you can make.

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Speaker 2: They'll say, what can we have for lunch? And I'll go, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's bread in the bread bin. You can make a sandwich,

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Speaker 2: you could do a toasty, there's wraps, there's caesar.

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Speaker 1: Salad, there's blah blah blah blah blah, I'll go through

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Speaker 1: all the options.

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Speaker 2: Holly laughs at me, and it's like okay, she all

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Speaker 2: look in the fridge and go there's nothing to beat.

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Speaker 4: I know. I thought of you actually when I was

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Speaker 4: slicing off cheese from the block and I was like.

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Speaker 3: This is so much passable on a few cheese and crackers.

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Speaker 2: Slice the cheese, the cheese pre packed. That's a really

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Speaker 2: lazy way, cheese and crackers.

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Speaker 3: Rachel