1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This podcast is being recorded and produced on gadiicol Land. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: country and elders past present. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: We extend our respect to any First Nations Aboriginal and 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander people joining. 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: Us today, always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Matt, Yeah, I woke up Yester yesterday morning because we're 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: recording this on Monday. It's obviously out on Friday. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to close friends. By the way, everyone, Hey, I 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: just get stray with these ones. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: My stepmom text me and said, Matt is going on 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: TV because you must have seen like some little snippet 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: that they played beforehand, saying coming up, Matt. So Jackie's 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: messaged me quick turn on the TV. Meanwhile, I don't 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: know what channel is what on the TV, Like you 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: know when you're like, what's channel seven? 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: Is probably channel seven. 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: But you don't like TV's now they've got like a 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: thousand channels and I'm like trying to fucking flick through 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: to find it. Anyway, I finally got there, your. 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: TV one of those ones that's like where one fifty 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: six it's actually Channing. 23 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: Y yes, And I'm fucking flicking through our message in 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Jackie saying what fucking channels it on? I was panicking. 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: I was going to miss it anyway. I watched it. 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: You were on? Was it the Sunrise weekend? Sunrise Weekend? 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Sunrise ye in your news era? 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. No, I don't know about that. 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: Why do you want me to tell you all about it? 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: Do you? 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? So why were you on there? 32 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: Settle around the campfire, mum? As good as story for you. 33 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: So I made a video a couple of weeks ago 34 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: which I'll circle back to this at the end and 35 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: tell you about my journey with cash. I've spoken about 36 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: it on the podcast before that. Earlier this year, I 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: decided I would start using cash and see if that 38 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: could help me save some money or what it would 39 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: do to my brain. I don't really know. I didn't 40 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: really think about it at the start. At the start, 41 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: I was just like, we're going to do our budget 42 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: exactly the same as we always have, but this time 43 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to start using cash. Because my first thought 44 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: behind it is when I was younger and i'd spend cash, 45 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: something in my brain never made me want to spend coins. Yes, 46 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: so I'd always put those in money box and then 47 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: you'd have all these coins at the end and then 48 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: there's like twenty backs at the end of the when 49 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: it gets full, you know. So that was the thinking 50 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: behind it. I was like, maybe I'll just carry notes 51 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: and then I'll save all these coins and then you know, 52 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: that's that'll be how I helped build my savings and 53 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: things like that. Anyway, I made a TikTok last week 54 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: because I have now been doing that for six months 55 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: and it has really changed so many aspects of my life, 56 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: which i'll get too later in this episode of Close Friends. 57 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: But that video went viral, news articles were posted about it, 58 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and then Weekend Sunrise reached out and 59 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: they were like, we want you to come on and 60 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: talk about it, and I was like, okay, And then 61 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: I was a little bit like, because it's my first 62 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: live TV appearance ever. Have you ever been on live 63 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: TV before? 64 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: No, And it scares the fuck out of me. But 65 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: you tell your story first and we'll come back to my. 66 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: Thoughts, okay, Okay. So basically I was really nervous, but 67 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: I also think it was almost good that it was 68 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: so early in the morning, because I just didn't give 69 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: a shit, so I couldn't. I was so tired that 70 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: I couldn't be bothered being nervous in a way. Plus 71 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: I got three hours sleep before I went on because 72 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: I was up the night before. We actually hosted a 73 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: book club at my house the night before, so my 74 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: friends were over, we were out late, and I went 75 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: to bed at probably like one thirty. My call time 76 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: was eight point fifteen at Channel seven Studios on Sunday morning, 77 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: and I only had a few hours sleep, got up, 78 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: cut myself shaving. It was a mess, hairs all stuffed 79 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: at the back. I'm like, I can't be bothered, but 80 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: here we go. And I booked ubers because I was like, 81 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm not driving in because I was too tired. So 82 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: I booked an uber there and back cost me about 83 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: seventy dollars in ubers. And when they asked me to 84 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: go on, how it worked was they were like, we 85 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: love you to come on, and I was like, yeah cool. 86 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: My manager was kind of like doing all the talking, 87 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: but I was kind of like yeap, sweet, all good. 88 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: What's funny is just a few weeks ago we had 89 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: actually asked Sunrise if we could come on to talk 90 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: about the arts in industry and the coming back to 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: life after COVID, I guess, and obviously then to promote 92 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: my shows at the end of the week and they 93 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: were like, politely decline, we don't we're not interested. So 94 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: it's funny that, like a few weeks later, they now 95 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: want me to come on to talk about using an ATM, 96 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: because that's apparently what gets across to the people these days. 97 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, someone actually dam me and was like, I 98 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: should have screenshot it because I don't know where it 99 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: is now. Soone was like, they obviously didn't know that 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: you made this TikTok that went viral, and they're like, 101 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: to be honest, why did Matt go on to talk 102 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: about cash? And I'm like, because he had a viral video. 103 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: Yeah it. Let me tell you. It is so off 104 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: brand for me. And I was like, and here's the 105 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: thing that is not what I like. I was not 106 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: excited to go on Weekend Sunrise to talk about using cash. 107 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: But when we spoke to the producers, we were like, Okay, 108 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: we will come on if you let me promote my 109 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: live show at the end, and they were like, yeah, 110 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: no worries, that's all good. What we'll do is to 111 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: keep it in the segment, we will get the host 112 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: to ask you, you know, like, so what do you 113 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: think you're what do you think who were saving a 114 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: bit of money should be spending their money on? Which 115 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: is then where I was going to say. In the 116 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: live entertainment industry, we're still coming back after COVID. I've 117 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: got my national tour coming around the country over the 118 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. So come and see me if 119 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: you can. Do you think they asked me the question 120 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: on national television? I didn't absolutely not that I'm just 121 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: slip their mind. So I went there, spent seventy dollars 122 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: in ubers, got there, did my what felt like forty 123 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: seconds on national TV, and didn't even get to like 124 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: promo anything. Also, the questions that they asked me, And 125 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: this is no shade till weekend Sunrise. I'm not trying 126 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: to call anyone out. This is just my experience. I 127 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: don't care, as I said, like it was Sunday morning, 128 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: I really don't give a shit, But I'm just sharing 129 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: what the experience was. Like, I felt the questions that 130 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: they asked me as well, weren't the questions that we 131 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: had prepared with the producers in advance. Like when the 132 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: host asked me, so you know you're saving money and 133 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: can't transaction fees, I was like, well, yeah, I guess, 134 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: but that's like, that's not what I'm here to talk about, 135 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: because that's not the reason I'm saving money. The saving money, I. 136 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: Just went rogue and said what you wanted to say 137 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: it anyway, it's live TV. 138 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: But it's actually kind of hard as well, because they 139 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: had TVs in front of me, Like, I don't know 140 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: when you were watching. Was I looking off to the 141 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: side a lot? Okay, So the thing is you were like, okay, yeah, 142 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: see that's so awkard because I haven't watched the footage 143 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: back yet and I haven't seen because they have all 144 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: these TVs around the camera that you're looking at, and 145 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: they've and I was under the impression that they were 146 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: doing B role. But the B role just plays and 147 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: that's just when someone's talking, and like you know, the 148 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: other pictures come over, like stock images of people pulling 149 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: out cash from an ATM and things like that, you 150 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: know when they do that in the news. So all 151 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: those things were playing around the camera. So I'm thinking 152 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: that that's what Australia is seeing. No, it was just 153 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: you the whole It was just me the whole time, 154 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: and I didn't realize that. So I was, like she 155 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: told me, looked down the barrel of the camera the 156 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: whole time. But obviously I'm thinking, and there's a fucking 157 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: distractions the other biggest like lol, of the whole thing 158 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: everyone is I'm just gonna let you know. It looked 159 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: like I had been flown in vast satellite for that. 160 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: The hosts were four meters away from me. They were 161 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: in the same room as me. Across the room, I 162 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: could see the host like literally five meters away from 163 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: you do that. 164 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: Instead of just putting you on the couch next to that. 165 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if they do. 166 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: They not want you to not go near them, I 167 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: don't know. 168 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's some sort of it might 169 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 2: be like a COVID protocol. Though no one was wearing 170 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: masks in the studio, but I mean it might be 171 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: something like that. It's kind of might be easy to 172 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: get people on and off if they have them around there. 173 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I was just. 174 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Like this, expected to see you on the couch with them. 175 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: Well, same I don't know what I was doing anyway, 176 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: The point is just like the most surreal. I was 177 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: just kind of like, what the fuck am I doing here? 178 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: And you're doing this for ten years and I'm talking 179 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: about fifty dollars notes. It was really random and I 180 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: was trying to inject comedy into it, but also the 181 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: segment moved so fast before by the time I got 182 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: my point out, I didn't ever even have time to 183 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: make a joke or like, I will be honest, like 184 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: I do not think live TV is for me, and 185 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: I did not enjoy the experience. Then it was really weird, 186 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: Like once it was over, I was just like because 187 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: when I got there, you know, people greeted me, took 188 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: me to the green room, blah blah blah, and then 189 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: once it was over, I was just kind of sitting there. 190 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Someone came and took my earpiece and my microphone off. 191 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: It's very like foutine then. 192 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: But then that was it. I was like, so do 193 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: I just do I just see myself out? Do I 194 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 2: just leave now? Like I when I got my jacket 195 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: and I was like. 196 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: I guess then, yeah, Like I get it, Like I 197 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: totally get it, but I'm just kind of like it 198 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: was just so so. 199 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 2: Weird to like see it all unfold in front of 200 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: me and be like, oh, this is not because for me, 201 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: like one of my like things, I've always wanted to 202 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: be on live TV, not for spending cash, like for 203 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 2: something a bit more exciting than that. But I was 204 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, I don't think this is actually 205 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: like what I would I don't. I actually don't want 206 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: to do it again, if I'm honest, if they ask, 207 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: if people ask, and today I'm going on the project 208 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: as well. We're recording that later, but that's recording and 209 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: then putting into a segment later, right, So that's fine. 210 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: But I think live TV for me, there was just 211 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: so much unnecessary like anxiety and stress and just the 212 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: whole production of like the hosts are over because of 213 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 2: course they're talking across the room, but I'm hearing them 214 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: in my ear, but I'm also hearing them across the room. 215 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: It was all weird like that. 216 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, your eyes were like shifting side to side. Yeah, 217 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: well it was an experience. 218 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 219 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: I don't think if given the opportunity, I would want 220 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: to go on live TV. Uh huh, because I don't know. 221 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't watch it that much, but maybe like the 222 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: TV's on in the morning, and then I'll just like 223 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: watch what they're doing, and I can see like how 224 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: much of a well oiled ship they run, Like it's 225 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: this person's on, that person's on. Now, it's this segment. 226 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: Now it's a food thing, now it's a beauty recommendation. 227 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Like the whole thing feels very robotic to me because 228 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: it's all timed down to the second and everyone's on 229 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: a script. I would be worried, like if I ever 230 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: got invited on there for whatever reason to talk about 231 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: business or podcasts or whatever that Like one of my 232 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: biggest fears with getting interviewed is that you can be 233 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: very badly interviewed and it can make you look like 234 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: an idiot. And so not that I've ever been given 235 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go on to talk about business or anything, 236 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: but I can just imagine, like if I went on 237 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: a morning show and just say it was to talk 238 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: about business or fate, they'd be like, oh, so like 239 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: your brand, like this is your little business, Like I 240 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: can see like it being downplayed and then me coming 241 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: across like a dumb idiot, And I will say I 242 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: have been on one podcast before, which was an amazing opportunity, 243 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: and it's not in the Nova network. I'm going to 244 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: say that, but I went on a podcast once before 245 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: and I walked out of there and I felt like 246 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: I came across really stupid or like I didn't get 247 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: to say amazing things because the questions that were asked 248 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: to me were not good questions. So yeah, I've experienced 249 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: not a bad interview before, but just being asked like 250 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: the wrong questions. And if it's live, then that pressure 251 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: is there to just answer those questions and it's really 252 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: hard to divert it to anything else. So I think 253 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I'd be too scared to go on it just coming 254 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: across like a fucking idiot. 255 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's I don't I mean, I didn't 256 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: really feel like an idiot, but I just the moment 257 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: that the question started being different, I mean, still the 258 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: same crux of the story. It wasn't like they threw 259 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: me huge curve balls, but like I had been told 260 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: what they will ask and there was kind of a 261 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: storyline to follow, Like it was like why did I 262 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: start using? What have I learned? How much have I saved? 263 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: What should people spend their money? On it was only 264 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: meant to be a four minute segment. It was like 265 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: a minute forty Yeah, So it was just really like, 266 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: I don't know live dv NOL, it's cracked up to me. 267 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: I was kind of like, oh, I'm gonna have to 268 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: think about whether I because also to cost me money 269 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: to come in for blah blah blah. And the funniest 270 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: thing was I was off. Like the minute it was off, 271 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: I was like out the door in the uber, back home, 272 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: like back in bed. Twenty minutes later, I was just like, 273 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: what a fucking whirl win. But anyway, if you're wondering 274 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: what I've learnt since changing, you know, swapping to using cash, 275 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: basically what happened was at the end old, I'll tell 276 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: you everything that I was going to say on Sunrise. 277 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: How's that? Here's the high scroll was exclusive. This is 278 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: what it was meant to happen. So last year I 279 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: noticed that my spending was a bit out of control. 280 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: The budget that I would give myself each week. I 281 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: found that when I was tapping my card, I would 282 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: always go over that and I would just not care 283 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: about it. You know, say, everyone's budget is different, but 284 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: let's just say for example, I gave myself one hundred 285 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: dollars a week to spend. Well, I would just tap 286 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: my card, tap my card, and oh, suddenly, I've spent 287 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars this week when I was only meant 288 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: to spend one hundred. And so what I did at 289 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: the start of the year is all my regular expenses 290 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: like rent, phone bill, groceries, petrol. Those things don't really 291 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: change very often, so I know they're going to be 292 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: exactly the same amount of money. So I still put 293 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: all those on card. But any of my wants, or 294 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: any of my splurge money, or any of my extracurricular 295 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: activities and recreational spending, so that is movies, dinners with friends, 296 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: new clothes, new outfits, whatever that may be. The things 297 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: that aren't like necessities. But you know your budget that 298 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: used to spend on whatever whatever you want. I've always 299 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: in my budget allocated all my things, put a little 300 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: bit in savings, and then I have, you know, a 301 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: couple hundred dollars to spend on whatever I see fit 302 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: that week. As I said, though, problem last time was 303 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: that I was going over that budget because it was 304 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: so easy to tap. So I was like, okay, instead, 305 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to be taking the money out each week 306 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: when I get paid, and it'll be cash. And at 307 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: the start of the year, I was definitely still spending 308 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars and having a couple dollars left over 309 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: obviously from the change, but I was pretty much spending 310 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: the one hundred dollars every single week. Now I find 311 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: that it's changed my financial literacy and also my relationship 312 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: with money has changed that now I find myself saying, 313 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, if it's Tuesday, I might be like, oh, 314 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: do I really need to buy this? Because on Friday 315 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: I might be going out for dinner and I might 316 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: want to spend sixty It. 317 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: Just feels like not real, like ring, like you don't 318 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: even think about it, which is dangerous. 319 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: So now I like consciously think about every single thing 320 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: that I purchase, and it's rewired my brain. And it 321 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: obviously was clunky at first. It was hard to do it. First. 322 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: It was awkward to pull out cash, especially when you're 323 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: at a cafe and they've already like pressed the f 324 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: force machine and turned around to start making a coffee, 325 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: and like you've got to stand there and be like, sorry, 326 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: I'm paying cash and a lot of people say, like, oh, 327 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: but businesses, some businesses don't take cash anymore. And in 328 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: my six months, I've not experienced that one time. There 329 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: hasn't been one instance where that has happened. 330 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: I will say, like, from a business standpoint, I can 331 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: understand when businesses do no cash. Only reason being is 332 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: like from a convenience standpoint, it is so annoying to 333 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: handle cash in your business. It's like a whole I'm 334 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: sure you would know from back in the day when 335 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: you worked at macas and wherever, Like the whole cash 336 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: handling part within a business is like a whole other 337 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: part that's super annoying. Then you've got to trust your 338 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: employees with cash. Cash is a thing that they can 339 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: easily steal. And then there's the whole thing of the 340 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: till was down today and who hasn't done the banking 341 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: Like so I can kind of get it, Like from 342 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: a business standpoint, just been able to go tap tap tap, 343 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: and all your transactions are online. It's a lot more 344 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: streamlined for businesses that way. I would love to not 345 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: fucking have cash in our businesses, just because it's so 346 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: annoying handling it and dealing with the till being down 347 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: seventy five dollars and having a fucking fine where it went. 348 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: But I also get that people don't want us to 349 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: become a cashless society because it is good to have cash. 350 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Cash is king, Yeah, cash is king. And like, 351 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm not salty if you don't want to take cash 352 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: in your business. But I have just told people because 353 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people said, what if you come across 354 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: a business that doesn't take cash? As I said, that 355 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: hasn't happened to me yet. But honestly, why are you 356 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: making excuses like if you really want? I mean, what 357 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: I found when I made that video is a lot 358 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: of people were like, this sounds like a great idea, 359 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: but what about this? And I'm like, there's a really 360 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: fucking easy solution to that matha let's just sort it out, 361 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: because I'm like, are you wanting to save money or 362 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: are you just lazy and looking for an excuse. I 363 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: feel like everyone who had a complaint is just looking 364 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: for an excuse to not make it work. For I 365 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: love to complain my lifestyle right now and my needs 366 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: and what I need to live. The lifestyle that I 367 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: would like requires a business to take my cash because 368 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: that is what I have decided. If your business does 369 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: not take cash, I'm not salty. I'm not some boomer 370 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: who's like, I'm just simply going to go elsewhere because 371 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: your business does not fit my needs. Why would you 372 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: shop at any business that doesn't fit your needs? Do 373 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,239 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, get over your excuses, 374 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: get on with it. Look, it's not revolutionary. It's not 375 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: some life changing hack that's going to make you a 376 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: million dollars. It's just like, in this economy, every cent counts, 377 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: and it has really helped boost my savings. So now 378 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: at the end of the week, let's say I give 379 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: myself one hundred dollars in my budget, I'll find that 380 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: I have around twenty to forty dollars left over at 381 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: the end of the week because I have consciously made decisions. 382 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: Do I need that coffee? Do I need to buy 383 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: that book? Do I need to buy that new outfit? 384 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: Do I need to buy this? Do I need to 385 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: go out for dinner? And if I do go out 386 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: to dinner, do I need to order four cocktails or 387 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: maybe just the one? Because I want to there might 388 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: be something else in the week. So obviously it takes 389 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 2: a lot of discipline. But anyway, if you're looking to 390 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: save a bit of money, try switching to cash and 391 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: see how it improves your relationship with your money. Because 392 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: for me, personally, it's done wonders, So I recommend it. 393 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: That's your recommendation of the week. 394 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: Any other questions or comments or concerns from Brittany today, No, 395 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: thank you for making this episode all about me. We'll 396 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: be sure to make next week's an't all about you, darling. 397 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to close friends. I don't know how 398 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: to wrap this up, so let's just. 399 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: Go get some cash out. 400 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: Oh no, actually I've already got it out. So it's Monday, 401 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: I've already got my cash. 402 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: Out for the week, and I else go get your 403 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: cash out. 404 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 2: Oh right, okay, so ready, No, but I'll usually do 405 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: like because my I'm with Irong. So no atmfs anyway. 406 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's good because they don't have any physical branches 407 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: or physical ATMs, so they can't charge. Well, they don't 408 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: charge for atmfs because they're like, we don't have any 409 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: of our own, so so we get them refunded. We 410 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: have to pay it, but then at refunds automatically shout 411 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: out to ing. Yeah, Iron G is a great bank 412 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: to be with, if you want to say Barefoot Investor, 413 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: girls and boys and everyone in between. If you read 414 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: the Barefoot Investor like we all did in the fucking pandemic, 415 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: I have twenty fucking buckets and it's all working out 416 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: well since switching to cash anyway. So there you go, 417 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: have fun, have a good weekend. We'll see on Tuesday. Downs. 418 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: Bye bye.