WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 5 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the United States. This is Paul Murray, Live geta Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Washington, DC, behind us the capital, and today

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<v Speaker 2>is the day when the United States will make a

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<v Speaker 2>decision about what step it takes into the future. An

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary moment in time that we are all witnessing. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's the privilege of my career to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>sit here in Washington and take you through the start

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<v Speaker 2>of what is going to be a mega day. History

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<v Speaker 2>will be made in either direction here Donald Trump, who

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago was.

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<v Speaker 1>Swept away from the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>The assumption after the events of January sixth was that

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<v Speaker 2>he would have no chance back in mainstream politics. He

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<v Speaker 2>of course made his way and fought his way all

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<v Speaker 2>the way back to the nomination, a nomination that now

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<v Speaker 2>sees him on the precipice of returning to the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>This would be the greatest comeback.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the twenty first century politically, and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest in American political history. On the other side, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>is Kamala Harris, the sitting Vice president, a person who

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<v Speaker 2>four months ago was trying to get somebody else elected

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<v Speaker 2>to the presidency. If she wins, she will of course

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<v Speaker 2>be the first female ever to lead the free world.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, history happens, America makes its choice, the world

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<v Speaker 2>watches on, and we have got one heck of a

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<v Speaker 2>show for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Rallies took place after midnight. It is just about five

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning. It is a lot colder in

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<v Speaker 2>Washington than it was in Dallas. But they were getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready all the way in the height before game day

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<v Speaker 2>and then into game day. This was their final pitch

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<v Speaker 2>after midnight, after the clock had struck and it was

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<v Speaker 2>officially election day. First, Donald Trump, are you better off

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<v Speaker 2>now than you were four years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>Because over the past four years, Americans have suffered one

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<v Speaker 3>catastrophic failure, betrayal and humiliation after another.

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<v Speaker 2>He was joined on stage by our friend Megan Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>who has said that the Trump campaign, particularly after that

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<v Speaker 2>Madison Square Garden event, was frankly too broish. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>reaching out to women. We'll talk to her again later

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<v Speaker 2>in the week when the results become clearer, but Meghan

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<v Speaker 2>decided it was time to take the stage to make

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<v Speaker 2>it clear that there is a path for women to

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<v Speaker 2>vote for Donald Trump again as president.

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to tell you the main reasons. I

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<v Speaker 4>am voting for Donald Trump. Number one immigration. He mentioned it,

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<v Speaker 4>and people like Leake and Raley. I'll be thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>her tomorrow all day. Twenty two years old, killed in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 4>a young nursing student by an illegal. I'll be thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about Joscelyn Nungari, twelve years old in Texas, murdered by

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<v Speaker 4>two Venezuelan illegals. President Trump closed the border. Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 4>opened it by choice. It wasn't accidental. She said it

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<v Speaker 4>would be humane. That's what she and her boss believed.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell it to Lake and Riley's face. There was nothing

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<v Speaker 4>human about it. He closed it, they opened it. It

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<v Speaker 4>was an intentional choice, and there's no reason not to

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<v Speaker 4>believe they won't do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd hate to pretend that I know what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in anyone else's head, But do you think Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>going Why wasn't she.

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<v Speaker 1>My vice presidential candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>She was phenomenal on the stage. We know how great

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<v Speaker 2>she uses a broadcast. I tell you what, she's got

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<v Speaker 2>a future in politics if she wants it.

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<v Speaker 1>The great.

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<v Speaker 2>Megan McCain part of the final rally of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>for Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>She had multiple rallies, she was late.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting to start to the main one, which of course

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<v Speaker 2>had celebrities like Lady Gaga and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>This was her final pitch before grand final day.

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<v Speaker 5>Turn the page on a decade of politics that has

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<v Speaker 5>been driven by fear and division. We are done with that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're done, We're exhausted with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Among the celebrities who were there was of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>woman who sat down and helped her when it came

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<v Speaker 2>to the Democratic National Convention, sat down and helped her

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<v Speaker 2>when it came to a video town hall, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>is able from her perspective, to be able to give

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<v Speaker 2>her the same support that she was able to give

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<v Speaker 2>Barack Obama during his historic run at the presidency. However,

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<v Speaker 2>Oprah Winfrey, in my view, went way too far last night. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>selections always have consequences and the stakes are always high,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is stupid.

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<v Speaker 6>If we don't show up tomorrow, it is entirely possible

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<v Speaker 6>that we will not have the opportunity to ever cast

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<v Speaker 6>a ballot again.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, seriously, you want to know why people end up

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<v Speaker 2>either in some cases, storming the Capitol or if Trump

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<v Speaker 2>wins today, riding in.

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<v Speaker 1>The streets of DC.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, the local chemists are blocked up as if there

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<v Speaker 2>was a hurricane about to run through here. That is

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<v Speaker 2>because both sides of politics just turn it up to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>The media will only try to pretend that it's one side. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>did you just see what was being said to the

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<v Speaker 2>potential millions of people who may well be disappointed in

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<v Speaker 2>either direction, but particularly that message the closing from the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, it's great when it comes to winning elections,

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<v Speaker 2>but my goodness, if they end up losing this election,

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<v Speaker 2>ceeding the idea that that's the end of literally voting

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<v Speaker 2>in one of the great democracies, what utter garbage. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do the good news, bad news,

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it. Let's get down to brass

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<v Speaker 2>tacks here. How do they win? All right? What will

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<v Speaker 2>you be looking for when you're watching the results here

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<v Speaker 2>on sky News tomorrow? What will we take you through

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to later today?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>This is how Trump wins. If your people vote in

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<v Speaker 2>the election than did in twenty twenty, that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be good for him. Why because the assumption is that

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<v Speaker 2>his supporters remained just as passionate as sixteen twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four Biden, of course one, but was only able

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<v Speaker 2>to get there on a massive extra surge of voters

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<v Speaker 2>that came through the COVID situation. Also, Republicans have done

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<v Speaker 2>a very good job of voting early, but they need

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that they can get even more people

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<v Speaker 2>to vote today now, depending on the state, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>the margin, running up the vote before election day can

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<v Speaker 2>be really important. That's why previously when we see results

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<v Speaker 2>come in from election day, they start to change when

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<v Speaker 2>the early vote comes in. The early vote has been

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<v Speaker 2>better for Republicans, So the assumption is that that will

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<v Speaker 2>not be what he's going to be taking place.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead, they'll have a leader and they'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>build on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, if Donald Trump is able to increase even by

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<v Speaker 2>just a couple of points his ethnic minority vote, well

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<v Speaker 2>he would be able to start to surge towards winning

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<v Speaker 2>this election. If particularly young black men and Hispanic voters

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<v Speaker 2>who want legal immigration prioritized over illegal immigration, that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to get him there. Now, he also has to crack

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Blue Wall states. He has to get

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania or Michigan or Wisconsin. If he gets one of

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<v Speaker 2>those and holds everything that's come to be expected that

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to win, then he will win this election.

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<v Speaker 1>How does Harris win the.

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<v Speaker 2>Presidential election that plays out across the country and around

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<v Speaker 2>the world today. She needs women, and she needs more

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<v Speaker 2>women than Joe Biden got. She needs more women than

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<v Speaker 2>men to back her in and particularly women of all

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<v Speaker 2>different ages. There's a lot of focus on the pop

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<v Speaker 2>stars and young women and women for whom abortion is

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<v Speaker 2>a number one issue, but she also needs women over

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five. Now the polls have shown that she does

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<v Speaker 2>have quite a significant support amongst that group.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Traditionally people over the age of fifty five they vote Republican,

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<v Speaker 2>but in this case they may well be heading towards

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats. If they do, she will win. The cities,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, have to swamp the vote that is in

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<v Speaker 2>the regions. Put simply in population, there are more people

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<v Speaker 2>that live in a city than live in the outer

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<v Speaker 2>suburban or regional areas. The way that Biden one in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty was more people voting in the city than

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago. But overall, as I said, if the

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<v Speaker 2>vote is down, which is expected because no male and voile,

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<v Speaker 2>no pandemic, well again that's going to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>the worries for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she has to win.

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina or Georgia or Arizona on top of the

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<v Speaker 2>blue Wall to be able to put this thing away,

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<v Speaker 2>and to put this.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing away in the next twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's all down to Pennsylvania and that really is

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<v Speaker 2>her only path, then we are in four not just

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<v Speaker 2>a long day, but potentially days of county. But if

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<v Speaker 2>she can hold the blue Wall, if more women are

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote than even four years ago, and the

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<v Speaker 2>dynamics of the city versus the country, that's how she

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<v Speaker 2>is going to win this election. Now, let's deal with

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that I know plenty of people have sent

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<v Speaker 2>me emails about, and people in my life just send

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<v Speaker 2>me text Missussi about which is okay, Paul, Why is

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<v Speaker 2>this so close?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is this really fifty to fifty?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this really sort of forty nine point nine to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty point one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Why? Because of the polls.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as we've shown you the polling across the swing

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<v Speaker 2>states seven swing states, five of them currently are trending

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<v Speaker 2>towards Trump, two of them are trending towards Harris. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that would mean that as I said, if he can

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<v Speaker 2>win a Pennsylvania and she's not able to hold the

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Wall, then he is going to win this election.

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<v Speaker 2>If the polls are correct, the averages of the polls,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course there are dozens and dozens and dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and that became the vote that discounted. Later today,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump will win the presidency eighty seven to two

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one. Not my prediction, just telling you that is

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<v Speaker 2>what the polls, if they are correct, are telling us

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<v Speaker 2>is going to happen at this election. So, of course

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the seven swing states, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to also understand this that the seven swing states which

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<v Speaker 2>are up for grabs will know what they are and

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<v Speaker 2>what they will be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, of course, what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>To understand is that while the electoral college might look

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<v Speaker 2>like a blowout where somebody gets two ninety three hundred votes,

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<v Speaker 2>the absolute reality of the situation is the margins by

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<v Speaker 2>which people are winning these.

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<v Speaker 1>States are very very thin. Let me explain that to

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<v Speaker 1>you now.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden won Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. He also won Georgia, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>and Nevada. But have a look by the margins total

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<v Speaker 2>number of votes now in Wisconsin, there were three million

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<v Speaker 2>votes overall difference twenty thousand, Michigan five point four million, difference,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty four thousand, Pennsylvania almost seven million people,

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<v Speaker 2>difference less than one hundred thousand. In North Carolina five

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<v Speaker 2>point four million people were voting Trump on that state

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<v Speaker 2>by seventy four thousand. So you see my point over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. We're literally millions of people will vote.

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<v Speaker 2>But the difference between team Red and team Blue can

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<v Speaker 2>be not just a football stadium, it can be even

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<v Speaker 2>smaller than that.

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<v Speaker 1>In particular areas.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll get back to America in a moment

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<v Speaker 2>or two's time, including I'll give you an idea about

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<v Speaker 2>exactly when in our coverage, which is of course well

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<v Speaker 2>effectively starting right now, but of course picks up again

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<v Speaker 2>in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Morning with the first edition.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be here all day about when poles close and

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<v Speaker 2>when you're going to start to see some results. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the greatest country in the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course that is ours and some of the other

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<v Speaker 2>news that is around today now. Of course, today was

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne Cup day. Congratulations if you were somebody who backed

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<v Speaker 2>the what's seventy eight to one favorite, well not favorite outsider,

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<v Speaker 2>And of course it was a day of great drunkenness.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't start without me, did you.

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<v Speaker 5>I started three days ago in your poon at Derby

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<v Speaker 5>Day in Queensland, Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>At the top end. And you haven't stopped.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't stopped. I've had eight hours of sleep in

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<v Speaker 5>about four days.

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<v Speaker 1>But I must I must have missed the bus. You

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<v Speaker 1>did miss the bus. But I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 4>The bus doesn't stop until Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going home on Sunday, but don't come for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys got thongs, we got crops. How's that sound, mate?

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<v Speaker 2>But the perhaps more significant information, rather than the people

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<v Speaker 2>who own the winning Melbourne Cup horse, is that, of

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<v Speaker 2>course interest rates no change. The pain continues swolve. Interest

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<v Speaker 2>rate rises since how Beneasy became our prime Minister?

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<v Speaker 1>Grimm Jim the treasurer.

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<v Speaker 2>The pain continues. The media, well this was how they

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<v Speaker 2>told the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Today.

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<v Speaker 7>The Reserve keeps interest rates on hold, the only safe bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Reserve Bank has left the cash rate unchanged, saying inflation

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<v Speaker 2>is still too high to give borrowers any relief.

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<v Speaker 3>The Reserve Bank has now left the cash rate at

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<v Speaker 3>four point three five percent for a full year.

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<v Speaker 1>So the pain continues.

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<v Speaker 2>The banks tell us there's going to be no change

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<v Speaker 2>until February, and of course that's in and around the

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<v Speaker 2>time the Prime Minister would like to have an election

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<v Speaker 2>and change the subject from upgrade Albow. New poll, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, showed lots of things today that all of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that Olbo's done is what Australians don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>About sixty percent of people don't like all different things

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to being an air grade upgrade Albo.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like the free upgrades, they don't like the

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<v Speaker 2>chairman's club membership. Surprise, surprise. If he thinks that's the

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<v Speaker 2>way he's going to win an election, good luck the ABC.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what a coincidence that on Melbourne Cup Day, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the day when finally the abasc news boss admitted

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<v Speaker 2>what the Channel seven spotlight show exposed and sort of

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<v Speaker 2>Zebrudai like detail, which was someone added extra shots to

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<v Speaker 2>audio in a report that made horrific allegations against an

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<v Speaker 2>Australian soldier, that of course being Heston Russell. Well, today

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<v Speaker 2>they admitted they fiddled with this tape.

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<v Speaker 7>We sincerely regret and apologize those editing errors in the

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<v Speaker 7>video clips, including two members of the second Commando Regiment,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's why we removed the video when it was

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<v Speaker 7>brought to our attention.

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<v Speaker 2>And unsurprisingly, despite the fact that this happened, no one's

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<v Speaker 2>going to lose their job, No managers, nowhere else accountability

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<v Speaker 2>of course, when you're on the left, it doesn't apply.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like a Daniel Andrews when you end up getting

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<v Speaker 2>a little gold medal, no doubt somebody will get Employee

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<v Speaker 2>of the month.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe nobody loses their job. That's pretty serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff anyway, well under those that are pushed and pushed

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<v Speaker 2>hard for truth to finally come out, for it to

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<v Speaker 2>happen on effectively the National public Holiday of Drunkenness. Pretty

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<v Speaker 2>low stuff from the ABC. So one more thing about America.

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<v Speaker 2>Here the poll closing times. So I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 2>this in Australian eastern summer time. You can do your

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<v Speaker 2>sums in Queensland or anywhere else around the country, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is when you're going to start to see closings

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<v Speaker 2>and then results.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>It closes at eleven am North Carolina, eleven thirty am Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan midday Arizona, Wisconsin at one pm, Nevada two pm

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<v Speaker 2>this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>The very latest from the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Is is Trump sixty one percent to thirty eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance of winning this thing? The statisticians, they say Harris

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<v Speaker 2>fifty out of one hundred chances at winning compared to

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's forty nine exactly the reverse this time again in

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<v Speaker 2>favor of Harris with the Silver bulletin, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that when you actually look at their data, it shows

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump is actually winning all of the significant states

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<v Speaker 2>that he would need to. But that's how tight they are,

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<v Speaker 2>all sort of covering their backside. And just to show

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<v Speaker 2>how tight all of this is, there's a very small

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<v Speaker 2>village that every four years we have to cover because

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<v Speaker 2>it's the first place that votes, and it votes after midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what tie Three votes for Harris, three votes for Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>To work out whether Trump is going to win or not. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about those changes about people who are traditionally

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<v Speaker 2>not to vote Republican perfect example would be African American men.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the way that many in the media have decided

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<v Speaker 2>to spend some time to have a chat about what's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen with this, voters to go to your

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<v Speaker 2>local barbershop, which is exactly what we did to have

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<v Speaker 2>a chat to fellas about which way they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go today.

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<v Speaker 8>I've believed for the first day we should give a

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<v Speaker 8>fil a try. I believe America and the whole what

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<v Speaker 8>needs change we.

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<v Speaker 1>Drive from before? Now what happened? We came to zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is not coming for nothing. Where you're coming for

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<v Speaker 1>a revenge? Who you're going to vote for? Trumple Harris? Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh why financialise? That was good? In the end, it

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<v Speaker 1>all comes down to the economy. That come down to

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<v Speaker 1>the e kind of Trumple Harris Harris. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>like about Harris?

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<v Speaker 6>I think she's twenty poor?

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<v Speaker 1>Poor people.

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<v Speaker 8>People say Trump don't people play say trumpet raises against

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<v Speaker 8>black people.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't believe he raised against black people.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe he's just trying to make his country about

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<v Speaker 5>a country.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>We will all find out together watching on as part

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<v Speaker 2>of a mega coverage here and everyone's sitting out of

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<v Speaker 2>the park. If you want to keep up with the details,

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<v Speaker 2>find us on YouTube or obviously go to sky News

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, dot you or the details. The results will

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<v Speaker 2>be there. That's your homepage today. Skynews dot com dot au.

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<v Speaker 2>Ross Greenwood joins us now, of course from New York,

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<v Speaker 2>where there is so many parts of this story that

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<v Speaker 2>you are going to be playing out. The reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the result will be will be fascinating. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty the cheering in the streets when it

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<v Speaker 2>was Biden. We saw the booing in Timesquare when it

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<v Speaker 2>was Trump. What a great place to be Ross. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for getting up so early. I know it's probably even

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<v Speaker 2>colder where you are than I am right now. But

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<v Speaker 2>give us an idea of Game Day in New York.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'll say what Game Day in New York is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be really a terrific thing to watch because

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<v Speaker 5>most of the polling events are in some of the

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<v Speaker 5>most iconic spots in New York the Metropolitan Museum, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>the New York Library, which is seen of Ghostbusters for example,

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<v Speaker 5>if you've never been there. So some of the great

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<v Speaker 5>buildings in New York are going to be the places

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<v Speaker 5>where people turn out to vote on this day.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's going to be a brilliant day out. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm going to tell you that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, even though this is Democrat heartland, there's no

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<v Speaker 5>doubt there's plenty at state, not only in the congressional

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<v Speaker 5>races around here, but also there's other that votes that

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<v Speaker 5>will take place through New York, which leaven be about state.

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<v Speaker 5>Abortion rights are going to be up for grabs as well,

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<v Speaker 5>So there's plenty at state for people to vote about.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you say, it's interesting just.

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<v Speaker 5>To note that the difference mean what the last national

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<v Speaker 5>polls coming out are about right now swinging back towards

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala Harris versus the bookies, which are actually right now

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<v Speaker 5>swinging back towards Donald Trump, and they historically have been

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<v Speaker 5>a better measure of who ultimately wins this presidential race.

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<v Speaker 5>So you go to Polymarket you mentioned a little earlier,

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<v Speaker 5>suggesting sixty one percent to Trump, thirty nine percent to Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course it's.

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<v Speaker 5>When they break down the individual states to start to

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<v Speaker 5>see just a little bit of a nuance suggesting that

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<v Speaker 5>Trump will pick up many of those states, those swing

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<v Speaker 5>states that you spoke about.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's the key.

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<v Speaker 5>New York today is going to be a great place

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<v Speaker 5>to get a real flavor of.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on. But I want to tell you another story.

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<v Speaker 5>While I'm here, Paul, and that is an amazing sort

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<v Speaker 5>of as you would have picked this up, and that

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<v Speaker 5>is that migration is one of the absolute keys to

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<v Speaker 5>this election. People in New York are not happy about

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<v Speaker 5>the rate of migration coming into here. People who are

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<v Speaker 5>basically flying across the borders eventually end up in big

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<v Speaker 5>cities like New York. And so what's happened here is

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<v Speaker 5>that the mayor Eric Adams has started to turn grand

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<v Speaker 5>hotels that have been empty into basically shelters for migrants

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<v Speaker 5>and refugees. One of those is the Roosevelt Hotel. It's

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<v Speaker 5>hails the pete likes of Charlie Chaplin, Marilyn Monroe. You've

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<v Speaker 5>had presidential races basically run their Republicans have base themselves

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<v Speaker 5>there and now a migrant center and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>see the people around there. We try to speak to

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<v Speaker 5>the migrants. They broadly were warned off by the security

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<v Speaker 5>guards not to talk to us, but have un lesson

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<v Speaker 5>to some of the bystanders who came past when we

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<v Speaker 5>ask them about whether they were happy that one of

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<v Speaker 5>the grandest hotels near Grand Central Station has now been

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<v Speaker 5>turned into a migrant refuge.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all for immigrants, as long as they're added and

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<v Speaker 4>a limited amount that we can afford.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a good thing for New York and aren't

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<v Speaker 5>probably not?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? What's your sense about this?

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<v Speaker 5>I'man migrants obviously are coming into New York at a

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<v Speaker 5>large rate at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Just explain that's well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think tomorrow is going to be really important in

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<v Speaker 4>that process.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's like, oh, you know, the n mbys not

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<v Speaker 9>in my backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, do you know when people suffering

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<v Speaker 1>in your one? People starving? I'll see what Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know whether you've picked this up either, but

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<v Speaker 5>the number of people as we walk around the streets

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<v Speaker 5>with our sky News microphone and stuff like that, they

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<v Speaker 5>roll up and just tell us how much they like sky.

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<v Speaker 1>News in Australia. That's the thing that's really.

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<v Speaker 5>Got me about this.

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<v Speaker 10>I thought nobody'd know who the hell we were on

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<v Speaker 10>the streets, but it really has struck me that sky

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<v Speaker 10>News in Australia actually resonates through our YouTube channel, through

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<v Speaker 10>the ways in which people can get it there, and

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<v Speaker 10>that people actually know who we are when we're walking.

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<v Speaker 5>Around the streets. They know some of the people are there.

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<v Speaker 5>So the funny thing is that the messages that we

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<v Speaker 5>send out that it does get out in America, and

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<v Speaker 5>of course they see this as being really you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's sort of credible information because they are absorbing so

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<v Speaker 5>much of this as a part of this election campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my Heath, there's so much data, so much color,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, from lots of different fun as well,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly I think readers the ultimate star over here when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to left, he's losing it, and plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff we do. So I dont quickly ask about

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<v Speaker 2>the betting markets, right, people need to understand how much

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<v Speaker 2>money is in that has been bet in this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking here.

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<v Speaker 1>One point three billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Has been put on Donald Trump, slowly but surely, eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifteen million dollars on Kamala Harris. But then

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<v Speaker 2>there's that other betting market called the stock market. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been going pretty well of recent months, pushed particularly with

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<v Speaker 2>AI and the AI bubble. When we hear terms like

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<v Speaker 2>the market has priced in an election result, what does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, effectively, in this case, it's about the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>the market had priced in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump victory.

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<v Speaker 5>And so really there was a thing called a Trump trade,

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<v Speaker 5>and what that meant was a whole bunch of stocks

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<v Speaker 5>that might have done really well under Donald Trump, affecting

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<v Speaker 5>people piled into the stocks. Now in the last few

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<v Speaker 5>days there's just been a few wobbles in some of

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<v Speaker 5>those is in particular that Iowa poll came out suggesting

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<v Speaker 5>that Kamala Harris could surprisingly win Iowa. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>flicked back the other way since then. So as a result,

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<v Speaker 5>many of those stocks suddenly fell because the Trump trade

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't working so well, and so really, in many ways,

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<v Speaker 5>even the future of the economy. And this is what

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<v Speaker 5>I pick up again with speaking with Americans, is that

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<v Speaker 5>day since that this is such an important election for

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<v Speaker 5>the future of its economy, for the future of the

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<v Speaker 5>direction of the United States as a global power. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is one of the keys where so

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<v Speaker 5>many families indeed are going to be split down the middle.

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<v Speaker 5>There could be people in the families voting for Kamala

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<v Speaker 5>Harris on the other side, people in that family.

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<v Speaker 1>Voting for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is where in many ways it's not just

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<v Speaker 5>unions and left easm, you know, sort of right wingers

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<v Speaker 5>on the other side. This has come down to the

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<v Speaker 5>fundamental view of the future of America. And so that

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<v Speaker 5>goes to the stock market, that goes to the investment markets.

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<v Speaker 5>And you even talked about, say the betting markets and

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<v Speaker 5>the big money there. Well, one guy who is in

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<v Speaker 5>Europe put thirty million dollars into Donald Trump, big old trader,

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<v Speaker 5>lots of money. And they investigated this guy to see

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<v Speaker 5>whether he was actually trying to tip the odds in

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump's favor, to try and see whether that could influence.

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<v Speaker 1>The way in which people vote.

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<v Speaker 5>They were investigating even those things as a part of

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<v Speaker 5>this whole election campaign. So as I say, it's really narrow,

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty fine. And of course we're going to be

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<v Speaker 5>right across the streets today and round America. It's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a great day out just to see Americans

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<v Speaker 5>go to the poles today.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, do me a favor, Go to your nearest diner.

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<v Speaker 2>Get some French toast with extra sausage and bacon for

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<v Speaker 2>me my friend. Wash it down with the coke and

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<v Speaker 2>feel American on the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to you soon, Ross.

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<v Speaker 2>Good only thanks lot, the very healthy Ross Greenwood, who

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<v Speaker 2>would no doubt not follow that advice.

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<v Speaker 1>At all the food.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so bad, but it's so amazing orange cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>An international expls in and of itself. All right, quick

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<v Speaker 1>breakback with Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have a chat to our local panel about big

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<v Speaker 2>news around Australia today, including to the Reserve Banker, the

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<v Speaker 2>right or the wrong thing when it came to interest rates,

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<v Speaker 2>and some more details about upgrade Alvo you need to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Then two of the most plugged in detail DC insiders.

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<v Speaker 2>They know the numbers, they know the Trump campaign and

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<v Speaker 2>they will join us live in a sect here on

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Murray Life from Washington on.

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<v Speaker 1>Election Day in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost half past five in the morning where we are

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I hope you're having a great time watching

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<v Speaker 2>us at home. Thank you for all the feedback, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for all the support for all of our teams.

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<v Speaker 2>News team doing a great job and it's so awesome

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<v Speaker 2>to be doing this in primetime four year as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Paulittsgudis dot com that I used the way to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in touch.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, He's always here to help.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Conroy on a Wednesday, nervously hoping that Team Blue

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 2>is going to magically sweep its way towards power, cheering

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 2>on a history as he will have just a little

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<v Speaker 2>tear hopefully in a few hours time. Henry Pike, of

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<v Speaker 2>course LMPMP. Well, I'm assuming he's a trump Man here,

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<v Speaker 2>but we will all find out together in the next

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<v Speaker 2>little while.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About Australia and what happened today. Reserve Bank it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>going to move all of the big four banks. They

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<v Speaker 2>say they're not going to be moving on interest rates

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<v Speaker 2>until probably February. Stephen, You've had plenty to say over

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<v Speaker 2>the time about the RBA. What about their decision to

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<v Speaker 2>do nothing today?

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<v Speaker 11>Look, seriously, if you have a read of what they

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<v Speaker 11>actually said, they've done a revision and it's a revision

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<v Speaker 11>that says GDP is going to be lower than we forecast,

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 11>inflation is going to be with forecast, unemployment's going to

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 11>be higher than we forecast. And then you start to

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<v Speaker 11>look at this absurd concept that they have invented called

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<v Speaker 11>the trim demean which isn't part of their charter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>there's one economist today saying they're actually in breach of

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<v Speaker 11>the chart. Trimmed demeans not in their charter. And then

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<v Speaker 11>when you understand that twenty percent of the CPI components

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<v Speaker 11>are things like Paul, you'd understand this, like booze and cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 11>So as their forecast to come down because the inflation

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<v Speaker 11>comes down, the indexation of that comes down, twenty percent

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<v Speaker 11>of the prices that are in the basket of goods

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<v Speaker 11>will come down next year, and they just go, doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 11>doesn't count. We're doing nothing. There's a bunch of clowns

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<v Speaker 11>running the Reserve Bank. Really should resign because they do

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<v Speaker 11>not know what they're talking about when it comes to

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<v Speaker 11>the actual measure, and they're just.

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<v Speaker 1>A final kicker.

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<v Speaker 11>We're going to be data driven, which means they're going

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<v Speaker 11>to wait the extra months to see the actual DOTUT

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<v Speaker 11>because they've been forecasting so badly for the last few

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<v Speaker 11>years now, wage grows barely hit four percent. It was

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<v Speaker 11>going to be a wage price spiral. They just got

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<v Speaker 11>it wrong, wrong, wrong, and they're too stupid and stubborn

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<v Speaker 11>to admit their wrong and lower interest rates.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I like what you have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I think many of the wrong wrong, wrong also applies

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<v Speaker 2>to Treasury, but we'll get to that another time. Here

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<v Speaker 2>is the bosson the Reserve Bank, Michelle Bullock, saying nothing really.

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<v Speaker 12>Today, public demand is offsetting a lot of weakness in

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<v Speaker 12>the private sector side, so we still, with those circumstances,

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<v Speaker 12>have inflation coming back to target in a reasonable way.

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<v Speaker 12>My reading, when I speak privately to the Treasurer and

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<v Speaker 12>when I hear him speak on television and radio, is

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<v Speaker 12>that he's fully aware of the inflationary implications of his

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<v Speaker 12>own policies.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry wasn't the Prime Minister telling us on the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>that the worst is behind us. The only problem is

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<v Speaker 2>part of the worst is twelve interest rate rises.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Paul, They certainly have left that bed out, and

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<v Speaker 3>certainly we've got a year of really high inflation, and

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<v Speaker 3>yes it is coming down a bit. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Reserve Bank is quite right in relying on that

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<v Speaker 3>trimmed inflation figure. I think that's the appropriate and the

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<v Speaker 3>cautious way to do it, and I think the government

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<v Speaker 3>still has a lot of work to do to try

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<v Speaker 3>to get that figured down to the band that the

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<v Speaker 3>RBA wants to see it at their warning today that

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<v Speaker 3>it won't be until twenty twenty six that we could

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<v Speaker 3>see that, and of course they're going to be cautious

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<v Speaker 3>in lowering rates that's not going to occur before the

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<v Speaker 3>election now, and I think the government's got to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to the drawing board and go, right, what else

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<v Speaker 3>can we do? How else can we sharpen the pencil?

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<v Speaker 3>How else can we reduce inflationary spending to try to

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<v Speaker 3>bring those rates down and give households a bit of relief.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, there was an interesting bit of speculation daily Mail.

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<v Speaker 2>I focused in on this today and it's actually part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Kamala Harris conversation happening here, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>taxing unrealized gains, we're put simply something that you own,

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<v Speaker 2>like potentially things like stocks that they are technically worth

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<v Speaker 2>more money, but you don't actually have access to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And presumably this means your house may well be that

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<v Speaker 2>next level of taxation that is coming away from this government, Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>They would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Stupid to do it. I could see what the political

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<v Speaker 2>reaction would be instantly. But where does this come from?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're already seeing this in government policy, Paul. We've

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<v Speaker 3>already seen this in the new super taxes of the

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 3>government's bringing in from won July next year. That's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a thirty percent increase on taxes for people

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<v Speaker 3>over three million dollars in their super fund and that's

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<v Speaker 3>all on unrealized gains. And this is of course a

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous path to go down. We see it through land

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<v Speaker 3>taxes at the state level, where it's the theoretical gain,

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<v Speaker 3>the theoretical changes, not the cash that people have in

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<v Speaker 3>their hand, and that's got real serious implications for people's

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<v Speaker 3>cash flow. What this actually means for what holdings are

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<v Speaker 3>going to have within there, within their super funds. I

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 3>think it's a really dangerous path to go down. It

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<v Speaker 3>might sound good for a Treasury official here in Canberra,

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<v Speaker 3>but for those sitting at home without any increase in

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<v Speaker 3>the real value, just in the theoretical value of their assets,

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<v Speaker 3>means something completely different, Stephen.

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<v Speaker 2>Often governments politicians can be accused of being small targets

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to be as bige as possible. If they do this,

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<v Speaker 2>it will be the politics of the blood red kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 11>Look an apologist? Henry? I think I left Parliament before

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 11>you came in. But you actually didn't answer Paul's question,

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 11>which is where did this come from? I don't take

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<v Speaker 11>the Daily Mail as a source of anything other than

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<v Speaker 11>football news for the English EPL, so I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 11>it as anybody in government has remotely.

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<v Speaker 13>Associated come after yourselves with such a proposal. Peebe, I

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<v Speaker 13>could come after me early wants. It would be, to

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<v Speaker 13>use a phrase from Yes Minister, A very courageous government

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<v Speaker 13>decided wanted a tax real life capital gains and I'm

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<v Speaker 13>I'm you know Treasury might be having a discussion, but

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<v Speaker 13>I will about even Jim Chalmers didn't say I authorized

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<v Speaker 13>this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Stephen, I want to talk about whatever the four

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>D CHSS is that the greatest Prime Minister of all

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<v Speaker 2>time is playing here, right? I get you know politicians,

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>when you're having a bad time, you want to change

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<v Speaker 2>the subject. He has this sort of you know, years

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 2>style rally. It's like, oh, I see what's happening over there?

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Can I do that too? And he decided to do

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>so with Peter Melanowskis and people in South Australia. But

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>the greatest political tactician of all time, Malcolm Turnbull, was

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>a genius who took us through an eight week campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>What does Albo think about what a four month campaign?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think people are reading in a little too much.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 11>I mean, I think the fact that you're now talking

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 11>about this rather than upgrades is a measure of some

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 11>success the government. We're desperately trying last week to ovid

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 11>report through and now we're talking about a rally and

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 11>whether the hall it was in or not was was

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 11>appropriate rented. So I think tick one to a strategy

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 11>of getting you happy to.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about about upgrades. If you want, you want to

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about upgrades, let's get well, let's talk about Penny

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Wong and a three and a bit million dollar house.

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Penny Wong and to the Bridget for life. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to talk about it, Steve, I'm happy

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>to do it.

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 11>Bridget McKenzie's got plenty to talk about in the next

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 11>few days with the fifteen nine upgrades that you forgot about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right now, Henry.

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<v Speaker 2>The ABC they have now admitted that there was an

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 2>alteration to the audio that made it seem like more

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>shots were fired in a story which made a pretty

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>gray valigation against Australian soldiers. The apology comes on Melbourne

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Cup Day. This is when the metaphorical trash is taken out,

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>when you hope nobody notices. Now, okay, we get that

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<v Speaker 2>that might be when it's scheduled. But what does it

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 2>say that at that organization when something that grave happens,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>no one's going to get sacked.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really concerned with what I saw today because

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 3>I saw an apology. I saw them announce that they'd

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 3>had an inquiry and that no one was to blame.

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 3>But it just didn't pass the pub test. How could

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>those sounds be added to a video by accident? It

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't make any sense. I want ABC to actually

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<v Speaker 3>explain that to the Australian people in a way that

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 3>absolves anyone of blame. To me, it just absolutely cannot

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<v Speaker 3>make sense. There's no other explanation other than they were

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<v Speaker 3>deliberately added to try to achieve an outcome. Until I

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 3>hear an explanation otherwise, That's what I'm going to think,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what most of strains, I think, are going

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<v Speaker 3>to believe gets done within their public broadcaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the boss of the other People's money

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<v Speaker 2>news network.

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<v Speaker 7>We sincerely regret and apologize those editing errors in the

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, I can't let you go without talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, what is about to happen today, Stephen, You

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<v Speaker 2>and I quite often we talk about the numbers and

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 2>this and that and what's going to happen. We're in

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>this very odd situation where most American elections.

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<v Speaker 1>You would know going in. You know, we knew that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was going to lose last time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was speculative in twenty sixteen, but you could be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty confident if you're a Trump supporter in and around

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 2>that election, and we know there's blowouts like you know,

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>a Clinton Dole and a whole collection of others the

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>fifty to fifty nature of it, But the book is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot clearer in where they think it's going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't say what's the prediction, because I'm not going

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 2>to put you into that, buine But do you really

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<v Speaker 2>think this is fifty to fifty or do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that even if they were able to win by ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand here in twenty thousand there, the electoral college ends

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<v Speaker 2>up being the blowout and it's not a lineball.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Look, I mean Biden won electoral college with a very

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<v Speaker 11>narrow margin in a raft of the key states, haven't course,

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 11>seventy thousand votes had been different in those key states,

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 11>Trump would have had a second term. I mean, I

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 11>look at that small booth that has been already voted

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 11>and counted. The three votes all sort of said everything

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 11>except for you. People have forgotten that Biden won at

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<v Speaker 11>six in the last time. So that's that fifty percent

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 11>swing to Trump. Paul, I think you'd be pretty excited

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 11>by that result.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we all know what I want as a result

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<v Speaker 2>out of this, but also we're trying to tell people

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 2>how things are going to happen, why they might end

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>up happening again. Henry, do you think that we know

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<v Speaker 2>by this time tomorrow Australian time?

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, Paul, I haven't been able to pick a winner

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 3>in the US presidential election for a number of election cycles.

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<v Speaker 1>Now have much better. Don't give us one cup winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't disappoint anyone. I certainly what I think.

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<v Speaker 3>We will be waiting a while though, unfortunately, which with

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of an anti climax, And I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 3>forward to see how you're going to cover that as

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 3>we get later into the afternoon and evening, and no

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 3>result is clear, but it will be wonderful viewing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to it, good man, looking forward to it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I enjoy your time in Parliament, Stephen. We'll be

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 2>talking many times between now and when we know all right,

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 2>quick break back with two blokes who know everything about

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<v Speaker 2>Trump World, but also about the numbers and how they're

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<v Speaker 2>playing out right now, more from Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Game Day.

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<v Speaker 2>The election is today. We have been looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>this day for months. I've been looking forward to this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation from the second winne we were coming here. Mick

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>mulvaney is a former White House Chief of Staff under

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 2>President Donald Trump Larry Grossman. He is a man who

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<v Speaker 2>knows inside the polls. He is, of course with the

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<v Speaker 2>CT Group and their managing director. Gentlemen, welcome to Game

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<v Speaker 2>Day morning. We're excited, We're.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready to go. Welcome to the center of the interest

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>for today. It feels it doesn't and you can feel

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>that right now.

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:11.399
<v Speaker 2>So both sides have made it very clear that they

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 2>think they're going to win, right right down to the

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 2>extent where like their campaign directors are publicly releasing memos

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 2>saying in this state and this voter in this that

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Harris people did a whole YouTube.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Video explaining how good they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think both sides sitting around are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>push two dots together to find a way to win,

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<v Speaker 2>or they actually think they're going to win based off

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>their data.

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<v Speaker 9>Larry, I think they're both very confident in that they've

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<v Speaker 9>run good campaigns with the candidates are doing a good

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 9>job in this home stratch. And how how do you

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<v Speaker 9>go into a presidential action without being confident unless the

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 9>numbers show that you're not? And I think it's too

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 9>close to kyl will know maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow night,

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 9>maybe in a week from now. But I think both

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 9>of the campaigns look back at the past week especially

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 9>and say we've done the best we can. We're getting

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 9>people the polls today, and it's just a matter of

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 9>what turnout is and how people pull the lever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Mick Peyton Navarro, who is of course part of the

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Trump administration, He's told stories that in and around the

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty campaign that there would be people who would

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>tell the former president what he'd want to hear about

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>numbers as opposed to this is what's really going on

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>right in and around Trump World. Do you think that

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>he is hearing really what's going on or is he

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<v Speaker 2>just only hearing, Yeah, where Wilson, we're great ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>point two percent jans of winning.

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<v Speaker 14>It is hard to tell the candidate the truth, especially

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 14>when that candidate is either the former president Nited States

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 14>or the current vice president United States. There's going to

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 14>be a little bit of that, but it's always going

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 14>to be sort of with the sheen of but here's

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 14>the good news, mister president, here's the good news, missus

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 14>vice president. So you try and get a little bit

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 14>that that that bad news in if there's any, but

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 14>generally speaking, it's going to come with a sort of

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 14>a special gloss to it that makes it look a

0:38:58.800 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 14>little better than it might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny talking to people about the election, just in the

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>normal world, not on television, right, which is that it's

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.919
<v Speaker 2>going to be incredibly obvious after the result about why

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the result was.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So if Trump lost, it's going to be pretty obvious.

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, We're going to talk about gender gaps, We're going

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.240
<v Speaker 2>to talk about maybe a candidacy that to the wider

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>electric was doa after twenty twenty and of course January sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversely, if he wins, well, the Democrats were never going

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<v Speaker 1>to win under Biden.

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 2>They were given sort of false hope of a chance here,

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>but the reality of the economy meant they were never

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>going to never going to get out of first gear.

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 2>But of course what makes it strange on this side

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>is everyone trying to pretend that they have any idea

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>what's happening around the corner and what are the definitive

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>moments of the campaign. Do you think that either that

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<v Speaker 2>one of the two sides in the arm wrestle has

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<v Speaker 2>won the argument before we even get to the votes,

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 2>has won the argument about what the hell this vote

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<v Speaker 2>is about?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, yeah, I think it's just so closely divided. The

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 14>neat is that I think you and I are going

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 14>to be able to dissect this election for almost as

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 14>long after the election as we were before the election.

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 14>Were able to go through why Trump last, why Haras last,

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 14>why the pulsters were wrong, why people did vote, why

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 14>certain people didn't vote. There's going to be a lot

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 14>of analysis once this is over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Larry, let's get into the pulse, right. I'm

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 2>not going to ask the stupid question of are they

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 2>right this time? However they have been wrong twice? Okay,

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 2>has the polling industry attempted to show working about how

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 2>it's ever so different, or is the X factor that

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>hardcore Trump is will not pick up the phone, will

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 2>not respond to the text message, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes it very difficult to come out with an

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>honest picture.

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<v Speaker 9>I think everyone looks at the anecdotes of where the

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 9>polls were wrong in past elections, whether it was in

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 9>Wisconsin in the past where there was a huge Trump

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.800
<v Speaker 9>turnout at the last minute, and so the polsters themselves

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 9>are going back and looking at the things that work

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 9>and the things they might.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to change.

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<v Speaker 9>But all the polls are within the margin of error.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, of course you have these outliers from time

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 9>to time, but everything is still within one point two

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 9>point So you have to question. And then you look

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 9>at twenty sixteen, you look at twenty twenty, which was

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 9>within the margin of errors in most places, you have

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 9>to think that the poles are pretty close, just because

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 9>they're so much alike such in every case.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm also inevitable for all of these polls, right,

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 2>which is if you miss, so does your reputation, meaning

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>in four years time, anyone paying attention to what you're

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to say.

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>So a lot on the line for sort of the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're absolutely wrong about that.

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<v Speaker 14>This is so too Yeah, in this business you can

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.720
<v Speaker 14>be wrong most of the time and you can still

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 14>have your credibility.

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong more than I'm right on it.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like the weather, the traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants that snapshot in time. Yeah.

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 2>And also and also it's this scenario too, where going

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<v Speaker 2>into you know, the big game, Super Bowls, Grand Finals, whatever,

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>you can obviously come up with every series of scenarios

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 2>about what may happen and if this does happen, and

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 2>if this state and that person in this demo, But

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.919
<v Speaker 2>of course you don't know to you know that's safe

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>keep watching. Well, we try to have that conversation on

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the tilly Larry, what of the data that is out

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 2>there right now? So say Paul's early vote betting, whatever,

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 2>What do you think is the tea leaf that at

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 2>least fills your brain with the ability to start to

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 2>say it might go this way or that way.

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 9>I think if you look at the early voting, which

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:29.240
<v Speaker 9>is a telltale of enthusiasm, enthusiasm either for a candidate

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 9>or against a candidate is really important. But we don't

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 9>know how that translates into what happens today. But if

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 9>you have to look at Telltales right now, as America

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 9>is waking up to go vote those who haven't done

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 9>it already by mail or early voting, you have to say, Okay,

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 9>that's the one thing we can see is that it's

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 9>a historic number in a year in which there wasn't

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 9>a pandemic, where people weren't worried about going to a

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 9>crowded place.

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 14>I'm looking at something a little bit different, which is

0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 14>new registrations, a little different piece of data. In western Pennsylvania,

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 14>Republicans are up and other parts of the country, young

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 14>single women are up, and that to.

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Me sort of gives an indication as to where the

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>energy is.

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<v Speaker 14>To Larry's point, if Kamala Harris wins Kamala Harrison, keep

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 14>Ruskin asking me.

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm with you.

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, so did the president for the entire time that

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 2>he was advised.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, that's why if she wins, there'll be a lot

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.280
<v Speaker 14>of discussion about whether or not the Taylor Swift endorsement

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 14>actually counts, because ordinarily celebrity endorsements don't count, but that

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 14>one celebrity is so powerful within that one demographic group

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 14>that we may be talking about that a couple of

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 14>days from now, could we also.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about Yeah, something that's strange for Australians is that,

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 2>because it's a non compulsory voting system, you need to

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>excite people up to turn up. Now. I understand that

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 2>there's many ways to do so, but to me, it

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>feels like we are right out on the edge. When

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Oprah Winfrey last night, Harris Rally says, vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's a chance you may never get the chance

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>to do so. Again.

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 2>For all the attacks and all of the eye rolling

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 2>at what Trump has to say, why don't the Dems.

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Have a cop it for things like that, vote like

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>your life depends on it.

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 14>That's ridiculous, it is, and I guess it works because

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 14>they've done it now every year since two thousand. I

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 14>wrote a paper here in the Hill newspaper a couple

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 14>weeks back about how the Democrats had referred to every

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 14>Republican since Reagan in some fashion, tying them to Hitler.

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>That includes, by the way, Mitt Romney, of all people.

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 14>So after a while, you do wonder if it falls flat,

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 14>and you do wonder if half of the country looks

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<v Speaker 14>at it and says, you know what, I don't like

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<v Speaker 14>Donald Trump, but I also don't like that crap. I'm

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<v Speaker 14>voting for the guy just to sort of pop my thumb,

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<v Speaker 14>and those folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Are So do you think that I'm going to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you about who's going to win unless you want to

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<v Speaker 2>offer something up. But in terms of Trump and how

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<v Speaker 2>he presented himself in that last week, right, I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with what Meghan Kelly said about the Madison Square Garden

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<v Speaker 2>rally too blokey right to mail.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that when she took to the stage, there was.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost like, Wow, you've got a future in politics, right,

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<v Speaker 2>The clarity of the way that she spoke, and certainly

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<v Speaker 2>being able to reach out the way that the electorate's working.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that, Okay, this is a great difference between

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<v Speaker 2>men and women, but the reality is you compare it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same margin as twenty twenty right, ever so slightly,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not like there's this massive twenty five point

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<v Speaker 2>spin in different directions. But when it comes to how

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has closed the argument, do you reckon he's lost

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<v Speaker 2>anyone or because people are so baked in the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times poll said what eighty percent of people decided

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, So if they decided months ago, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if he didn't lose people.

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<v Speaker 1>Then why are you doing four rallies a day.

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<v Speaker 14>He does it because he drives energy from it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a true extrovert. He has to do it. He

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<v Speaker 1>can't sit home and do nothing. He must do this.

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<v Speaker 14>But to your point, I don't think either of them

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<v Speaker 14>really added any votes in the last week. I think

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<v Speaker 14>they both sort of stumbled to the finish line. He

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<v Speaker 14>never really did very well after the.

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<v Speaker 1>Madison Square Garden. If anything.

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<v Speaker 14>Fine, I don't think her closing argument she can't sell

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<v Speaker 14>hope and change like Barack Obama can, and she's trying

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<v Speaker 14>to sell to Trump as a threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought that.

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<v Speaker 14>Was one of the weakest Democrat arguments. I sort of

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<v Speaker 14>feel like they're both limping towards the barn, just trying

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<v Speaker 14>to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>To name Larry, the sense of a change election, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that the country desperately at one point wanted anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>But will they have the opportunity to at least change

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<v Speaker 2>half of that?

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed in Kamala Harris's final.

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<v Speaker 2>Adds, it's all sort of a new way forward, which

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<v Speaker 2>is sort of code for change. But how can you

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<v Speaker 2>be arguing the change conversation when, of course you are

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<v Speaker 2>the co pilot of the plane that is heading towards the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain of the data and the polling that's around.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have any insight into who they think represents change.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 9>I think obviously she's served as vice president for the

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<v Speaker 9>past four years, and she's certainly now the standard bearer

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<v Speaker 9>for the Democratic Party. So there's going to be things

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<v Speaker 9>that will be a continuum. But she is her own person.

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<v Speaker 9>She will be a different president, and I would imagine

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<v Speaker 9>that we will see things some on the margins and

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<v Speaker 9>some very different going forward. It's hard to predict because

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<v Speaker 9>each president is their own individual character and they'll bring

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<v Speaker 9>things of great interest. It's hard to characterize this as

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<v Speaker 9>a change of action other than the fact that she's

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<v Speaker 9>a lot younger than her predices.

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<v Speaker 14>To keep in mind, at any given time during the

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<v Speaker 14>four year term, I'm not talking about the elections, So

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<v Speaker 14>I'll just pick a random day in the middle of

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<v Speaker 14>a four year term.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thirds of America doesn't know who the vice president is. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the point, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So literally four months ago, the Daily Show was doing

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<v Speaker 2>skits about how weird her speech was right four months

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<v Speaker 2>later Obama in a pantsuit, right, Like, I don't look

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<v Speaker 2>and you try to distract people from their own circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>and emotions. But I've got to say, my sense of

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<v Speaker 2>anyone voting, regardless of what country you're in, you do

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<v Speaker 2>make this sober assessment. You can't sort of froth people up.

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<v Speaker 1>You do. But here's what's different. I think about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and curious to what Larry thinks.

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<v Speaker 14>Most elections in this country, selections everywhere, binary choices between

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<v Speaker 14>you and me, between Larry and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever. I don't see. I'm done for Larry. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see that. I don't see this.

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<v Speaker 14>With Donald Trump, twenty twenty was a referendum on Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 14>Twenty twenty four is a referendum on Donal Trump. You're

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<v Speaker 14>not voting for Kamala Harris. You'ither voting for Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 14>or against Donald Trump. And that's a unique dynamic I

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<v Speaker 14>think in our system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good point. Is that is that true?

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's totally unique. And if you look at

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<v Speaker 9>the big word about this election is about enthusiasm. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>and you have two different enthusiasms that you have to

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<v Speaker 9>focus on. One is the enthusiasm against him, and one

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<v Speaker 9>is the enthusiasm for her. And if you had to

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<v Speaker 9>put those two things in the balance, the enthusiasm against

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<v Speaker 9>him would outweigh the enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 1>For good stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>But as a Democrat, people are people are excited about

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<v Speaker 9>her because she's not him, because she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not because he's not him.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll think of the block who is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in angrily watching the television who does not on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, let's do appreciate it. Can you look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's game day, Election day in the United States. H

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<v Speaker 1>m hmm.