WEBVTT - Coffin Confessor exposes secrets of the dead: Bill Edgar Pt.2 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.960 The public has had a long held fascination with detectives. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.119 Detective see a side of life the average persons never 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.160 exposed to. I spent thirty four years as a cop. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.080 For twenty five of those years, I was catching killers. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.280 That's what I did for a living. I was a 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.600 homicide detective. I'm no longer just interviewing bad guys. Instead, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.200 I'm taking the public into the world in which I operated. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.480 The guests I talk to each week have amazing stories 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.840 from all sides of the law. The interviews are raw 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.560 and honest, just like the people I talk to. Some 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.680 of the content and language might be confronting. That's because 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.720 no one who comes into contact with crime is left unchanged. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.519 Join me now as I take you into this world. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.000 Welcome back to part two of my chat with Bill Edgar, 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.360 known as a coffin confessor. He's the person that delivers 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.000 messages at funerals at the requests of the deceased. And 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.920 it's quite an interesting occupation that Bill's found himself in. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.400 If you listen to part one, you would have heard 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.319 of Bill's life. I'll call it extraordinary. Bill. First of all, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.559 welcome back Part two. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:08.800 Thanks for having me. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.320 Quite extraordinary, And I say this is all honestly, what 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.479 you went through tugs at the heart strings, and full 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.600 credit to you for making something of your life and 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.560 not letting those setbacks. And we're talking being abused as 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.440 a child, sexually abused as a child, not letting those 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.080 setbacks define you. But it has its impact. We left 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.720 you in Part one as a seventeen year old fighting 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.880 the system in Bogoo jail and doing what you needed 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.600 to do to survive, and that included fighting and standing 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.120 up for yourself and being stood over. How long did 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:41.839 you do in prison? 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.720 I went in on just after my seventeenth birthday and 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.280 I came out just after my twenty first birthday. I 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.640 sort of I'd do six months and remand for six months, 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.240 and I'd do another six months, and then I'd be 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.160 out for three months and then back in again, all 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.840 on the same charges. Basically, the system was so broken 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.920 back then as it is today. I guess is that 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.440 you know I'd go to court and they'd go, look, 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.320 he's got a six month sentence, but there is this 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:14.880 outstanding crime that we're still investigating, and Bill Pots will 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.600 go will investigate it, and they're going, oh, we haven't 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.520 got time. Well let him out on bail, and then 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.960 I'd be out on bail and then I'd be walking 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.840 somewhere and the police had just arrested me and they 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:25.959 thrown me back inside. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.600 Tough time. So four years were you still and you 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.600 touched on how you met your wife Lara at school 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.600 and even you can't even do that normally because it 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.320 was there a school that you weren't actually meant to 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.760 with tend Then you'd stolen the school uniform to go 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:45.160 in the classroom and she happened to be sitting behind you. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:46.760 You can't make this shit up, Bill. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.760 And I dragged her in and out of my troubles 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.240 and she stayed with me through all that. She'd come 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.640 and visit me in Bogger Road. Then I got a pregnant. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.000 People were saying run, and I'm like, I love this girl. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:57.680 I'm not running. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:58.480 You know. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.639 She bring the baby into and it was just a 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.720 fucking what a woman. I mean, Jesus. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.400 Yeah, I would look at your resume and thinking not 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:11.280 a lot going on here, But you've proved them all wrong. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.680 And so's Lara's love for you, and vice versa. So 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.960 forty years it's a long, long time. You get out 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.000 of JAF you're twenty one, what's life prospects for You're 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:22.000 a father by this stage. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.320 I take it rick laying ruthing, you know, whatever I 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.800 could do, you know, I worked at and I tried 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.079 to better myself, and each job I had fucking couldn't 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.320 work for anybody. I couldn't be told what to do. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.600 Is it just I am dyslexic? But I also have this, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.440 I have a processor. Everybody has a processor in their brain. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:48.119 Mind's slow, and I've learned that I can't react straight away. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.440 I have to think about it first and then react, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.119 and I've learned that and taught myself that. But when 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.360 I was younger, I just react and then I'd think, 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.200 you know, which was dumb, which is a lot of 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:02.920 people do. Anyway, I ended up working whatever job I could, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.440 and the one job I found I was good at, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.920 which is the dumbest job, is a dorman, you know, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.960 and it's just a complete fucking nightmare of a job 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.680 because you know, again you've got legalabies. And then I 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.440 was working with people that were like we've touched on before, 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.680 the royd raide should get to their head and I'd 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.920 be like, I don't even like this type of thing. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.040 But anyway, I fell into nightclubs and I the owner. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.120 Is really funny because my wife and I we escaped 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.839 to Cans. We said, let's just move, so we escaped 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.080 to Cairns nineteen ninety one. By this time we had 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.560 a little girl, so and she was one year old 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.320 and my son was three or four year old. And 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.520 we escaped to Cairns and I said to my wife, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.360 I said, I'm I'm going to work at a nightclub 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.159 up here. It's really famous called the Playpen. It's a 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.960 huge nightclub. I'm going to get myself a job there. Anyway, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.480 I rock up at this nightclub at six o'clock at 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.960 night and there's a ladder that going right up to 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.200 the roof, like OHI as and there's a guy right 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.360 up at the top and he's changing light bulbs. And 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.320 I look at him right up there, and there's a 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:12.279 security guard, bouncer, story bloke holding the ladder. And I 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.479 said to the security guy, I said, mate, looking for 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.560 a job. He goes, no jobs here, I said, I said, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.839 who's the manager or the boss? And there he goes. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.480 That's him up there. I said, that's him up there 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.000 and I look up and I say, are you're the 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.840 manager of the boss. He goes, yeah, mate, I said, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:35.239 I need a job. Security dormant nah. I said, okay, 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.800 you got too many. He says yeah. I said, how 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.760 about I not this fucking broke out and then you 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.400 give me a job because you've got nowhere to go. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.440 I said, oh, that's that's the option. So I said 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.120 I need a job. I said, and I'm desperate. I 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.200 had a wife, a couple of kids. We've just moved here, 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.159 and this guy holding your ladder is your life support 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.919 and I'm about to cut it. And I'd been in 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:57.039 Ja I'd come out. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.320 So I was full of He knew how to talk 0:05:59.320 --> 0:05:59.680 the talk. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.360 And the bouncer looks at me and he goes, mate, 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:03.839 I'll tear your head off. I said, you let go 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:08.039 of that ladder. He's dead anyway. The boss up, Tobby, says, 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.400 can you be back here at seven point thirty wear 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.600 a white shirt, black pants, black shirts. I said, no, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:13.360 iris pow. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.400 That's a great job interview. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.560 I worked there for three and a half years on 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.920 the door, and then the owner of the nightclub came 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.120 in and he says, you're not a dorman. He says, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.240 you're a manager, coming, I'll train you. So I became 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.159 a manager of the nightclub for a few years too. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.839 So it was great and that kept your way from 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.040 falling back into old habits or getting yourself into trouble 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:35.560 your manage. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:37.760 Yeah, you know nightclubs. I could see all the trouble 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:38.200 around me. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.480 Oh like that's tiptoeing through a minefield. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.479 Working absolutely. I had Lara, I had the kids, and 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.520 I I was good at what I did. I was good. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.479 I'm a very good talker in that way. And the 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:57.600 second weekend I was there, there's a big fight and 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.160 I had no backup. They don't locked me out, they 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.360 lock they locked the fucking door. I'm out the front 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.840 and I'm punching on with this guy. I knew I was. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.000 I was. I was just hab it. All of a sudden, 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.280 this paddy wagon come flying around the corner and it's 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.720 a dog squad. Dog's going off and all the boy 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.800 they hate dogs, and the copper gets out and he 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.880 lets his dog out, and holy fuck, the dog's name 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:22.559 is Ghost. I think I think it was a ghost. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.480 And he come out and everybody just fucking ran for it, 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.120 and I'm standing there and I've got a bit of 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.760 clar it over me, and the copper comes over and 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.160 he goes, you're right man. I said yeah, I said, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.480 I said, they locked me out, and he says, yeah, 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.960 that's protocol here in kens. You know, we just locked 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.720 the clubs down. And I said, yeah, but they don't leave. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.080 The fucking bounces outside. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.520 It's not usually, that's not meant to be how it 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:45.640 works exactly. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.440 So he injuries him as doug and him and I 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.920 have become you know, we became close around. I still 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.160 talk to Dougie today and he's been a copper for years. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.680 And it was just a situation that I ended up. Yeah, 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:04.480 from from the streets, did yail, doing jobs, and then security, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.640 and then from then just just life got better. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.320 You talk about getting getting life's experience, so now you're 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.720 getting You became a private investigator, and you explained that 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.600 partly in Part one about doing a lot of finances 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:23.320 and that type of stuff. You outlined to us your 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:27.400 first job as a coffin confessor and what was done there. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.040 How did that business take off from that point because 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.160 that was the one out thing. Did you was there 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.920 a light bulb moment you think, hold, that's here's something 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.720 that people might be wanting. How was it word of mouth? 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.840 Did you advertise it? How did it grow? 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:45.000 I when I left that first funeral, Graham's funeral, the 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.040 young girl came up to me and that was his 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.200 daughter and thanked me for it. And there was another 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.080 young lady who came running over and she said, excuse me. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.640 She says, you need to see my auntie. And I'm 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.680 like why, and she goes, she's impalliative care. This is 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.480 the hospital. She's in northern New South Wales. She needs 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:09.160 you really bad. I don't do like what will she 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.480 need you know? And she goes, I'm not sure, but 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.160 she needs you someone like you. It was to crash 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.440 her funeral. And I went, you're fucking kidding me? 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:17.080 What? 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.400 She goes, my niece just told me that you crashed 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:23.240 Graham's funeral. And she was the funeral on my behalf 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.200 because I knew Graham and his family. I want you 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.720 to do my funeral. Fuck. I left there and I 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.600 went to a cafe and I sat at this cafe 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.920 and I'm scratching my head and I'm looking at my phone, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.920 and then I thought, this is seriously, could this be 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.360 a business? Maybe it could be. So then I thought, 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.480 what I call myself? Who am I? What am I? 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.800 What do I do? And I'm sitting there and going 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.120 I stand in front of the coffin and I confess 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.800 people's it's as deep as dark as secrets. So I 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.120 guess I'm the coffin confessor. And it hit me and 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.560 I went coffin confessor, Yeah, that's cool. And then I 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.640 trademarked it, and then I painted it. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.120 What did the Arnie want done? At her funeral? 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.480 She had a best friend for over forty years and 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:09.360 they were wonderful, wonderful friends together. They both had family, 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.079 so married with kids. But her secret was that she 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.680 was in love with her best friend, passionately in love 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.080 with her, and she could never tell her. After that 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.959 was crashed and that was revealed, her best friend came 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.319 over to me and said, I felt exactly the same way. 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.760 I didn't know she felt like that. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.199 Oh that's sad, isn't it? 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.760 Like the husband's come over and said, I knew. I 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.720 told her so many times that she should fulfill her 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.000 dreams and gain, but she was too scared about society, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.120 her family, and that she has to be married to 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.200 a man and that. Yeah, it was very touching. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.880 Yeah that and I didn't expect that. But they're the 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.760 type of moments, so special moments that you're uncovering. And 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.400 like when you told me that, I'm thinking two people 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.160 that are madly in love with each other, but they 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.839 didn't tell each other until one of them died. It 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.400 does make you think about the way you live your life, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.559 doesn't it. Where you see things like. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.920 That, Absolutely, it really does. It's changed my life immensely. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.319 Well, you know, I'll keep coming back at the weekend. Okay, 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.120 I'll read Bill's book. But you made me think about 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.600 a lot of lot of different things. And I suppose 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.520 it's the very nature of a funeral is it's crunch time. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.320 You know, if it's not going to be said here, 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.720 it's gone, you just you fade off into the distance. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.640 So yeah, that's what happens. You've had a and we'll 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.760 talk obviously more on the Coffin Confessor, but you've had 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.080 which is a resounding success, but you've had a couple 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:41.400 of other business ideas that haven't been as good Coffin camping. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.400 Let's just talk through the mindset there. I'm on a 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.600 roll here, coffin confessor. Okay, we can go further, we 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.440 can go coffin camping. Okay, give us the insight in 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.440 your thought process there. And what happened. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.520 I was getting hundreds, if not thousands of emails requests 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.360 for meetings and to talk to the not to crash 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.280 their funerals, just to meet me. I said to my wife, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.160 I said, look, you know, we've got twelve acres. I'm 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.640 going to use an acre down the back of the 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.680 forest and I'm going to set up a camping situation 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.640 down there. And she goes, oh, yeah, what time, And 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.680 I said, coffin camping. I'm going to have four coffins 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.559 designed beautifully in this nice area, and I'm going to 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.480 do it on a nice and professional and she goes, as 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.520 long as it's nice and not tacking. I said, yeah, 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.800 it'll be nice, it'll be beautiful. And I got my 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.520 heart set on it, and I started doing it and 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.320 I got into it and I had it all set 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.880 up beautifully, and then I contacted he made of mine 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.240 who's in the media, and I said, listen, I said, 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.319 what I want you to do, no media, I just 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.360 want you to come down with your wife and spend 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.960 a night in the coffins at coffin camping and he's like, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.760 oh fuck yeah, he says, I'm me in. He said. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.400 The wife won't be, but I've got to mate and 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.520 we'll bring a six pack. I said, no, no alcohols 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.400 and food and our coals included. I said, just down. 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.679 So he rocks downright. Unbeknownst to me, he brings a 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.920 fucking film crew. Right. It comes down and the four 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.840 of them end up staying the night in this coffin, 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.160 and the coffins are really nice. I'm talking like, it's 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.160 really well set up. I'm there having a fire and 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.320 a beer and talking with them and having a good time. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.360 Then all of a sudden, I go and I leave 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.280 them to it. In the morning, I go see them 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.199 and I said, I'll say Darryl's his name. It's not 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.920 I said, Darryl. You know, Like, what'd you think? He said, 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.040 I'll be all. He said, that was the most cathartic 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.520 experience I've ever had in my life. That was fucking unbelievable. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.880 I said, yeah, did you have the lid open or closed? 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:42.880 He says, I closed it. He said, Terry over there 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.360 wouldn't fucking close his I said, and cathartic. He says, oh, mate, 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.280 it really made me think about you know, death, life 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.240 and everything in between. And I said, oh, that's cool. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.400 That's good to know. He says, And so we shot 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.560 a movie this morning about it. I said, what. He says, Yeah, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.240 we shot a little movie and we sent it through 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:01.959 to Sunrise David Kosh. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:02.559 He said, yeah. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.120 Yeah, he says, they're going to be here tomorrow. I'm like, 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.280 fuck off. So anyway, Yeah, they arrive and they do 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.559 the story. That was it, That was the beginning. In 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.360 the end of coffin Camp. Everybody that come past my 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.640 property will yelling out coffin confessor, Hey god, yeah. They 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.400 were taking photos videos that were fucking laying in the 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.440 coffins that ah fuck, I did it at the wrong place. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.920 My place, just not in your own own home. I 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.800 just as you're describing that, I'm thinking, and I hadn't 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.120 even thought, Okay, sleep in the coffin you put the 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.440 lid down, saying it's cathartic. I would imagine it would 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:40.000 be because if you're laying in there, you're thinking, is 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.480 this how it all ends? And then you would reflect 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:43.680 on your life. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.600 And I had each one had an iPad so they 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:46.640 could talk to each other. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.800 Yeah, well, they'd be handy, make going a little bit 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:55.000 nicer if you could see die sleeping, stay in contact. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.280 You put yourself through that once yourself did, and you 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.360 spend a night in a coffin just to get feel 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:00.600 for it. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:05.600 I did, and it is a cathartic experience. It's yeah, well, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.560 I tell you what. It's not for everyone, but for 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.800 those that you've got to experience it because it is. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.600 It's something different. And I don't mean like it's just 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.800 you know, like I had a group of ladies come out. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.359 Four ladies, bring out their bottles of wine and their champagne, 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.600 and they're all sitting around the campfire, and then all 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.560 of a sudden, they're all sitting in their individual coffins, 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.480 and the coffins are in individual rooms, and so they'd 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.360 be sitting up in the coffin having wine and they're 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.640 all talking to each other, chatting and carrying on, having 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.440 a great time, and then you know, you hear their 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.600 stories in the morning. One lady says, I just cried 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.600 myself to sleep, you know, because I was thinking of 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.680 my mum and dad and they were in a coffin 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.160 and then I was. Another lady says, that's it. It's 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.600 made my mind up, and being cremated. It had all 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.000 different effects on different people, so it was pretty cool 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:52.760 in that respect. 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.760 It's bizarre, isn't it. And I wonder why, And yeah, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.480 I was a homicide detechnic for so long, so I'm 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.960 thinking about about death. But reading your book just sort 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.680 of it really brings it home because the funeral is 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.760 a funeral, and normally you go to a funeral, you 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.760 prepare yourself for the funeral, depending on who it is. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.160 You go there, you feel the emotions, you walk away 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.560 and try and move on with life. But what you 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.080 talk about here sort of it dangles it in front 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.480 of people and you've got to look at it, process it. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.840 Well, that's it. I mean, I'm responsible and I love it, 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.720 and I do I get off on it a little 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.240 bit that I'm responsible for having the whole world talk 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:31.920 about death in a different light. Now. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:36.120 You also another interesting story, and it leads into one 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.160 of the jobs you get as a coffin confessor. The 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.400 bloat that he was worried how his family were going 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.440 to react after he passed away, and they're a bit greedy, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.640 and he decided to ask a favor of the coffin confessor, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.240 not for the eulogy, but to bury some stuff under 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.520 his coffin. Do you want to talk us through that story, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.400 because you also just and I don't want to paint 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.240 you as a weirdo, but you also laid in the 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.120 bottom of a dugout gravesite looking up and just looking 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:04.760 at the sky to get a sense of what it 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.800 felt like. Talk us through that one. Well, I like 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:09.920 your sense of adventure. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.040 Look, this gentleman who had engaged me vultures in the 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.960 family mate. He had them in spades, and they say, 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.639 you can't take it with you when you go, you 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.879 just go. Well, this bloke took it with you, you know, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.720 his possessions, his money and everything else. He wanted to 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.640 take it with him, or he wanted it buried where 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.480 no one would ever find it. And I said, okay, 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.480 I'll try and find a place. And he said, well, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.600 burn all the cash. And I'm like, I could do 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.600 that turn until I realized that it's illegal. But you 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.959 can wrap it up tight and keep it concealed and 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.960 bury it somewhere. That's not a problem. So to the 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.480 life of me. I had no idea where I was 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.920 going to plant this thing, and I thought I'd put 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.080 it in my own garden and put a tree on 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:51.800 top of it and just plant it there. And that 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.639 was it until I was at another funeral and I 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:59.680 went ding, I'm going to jump in his grave. I 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.080 going to dig a hole put it there. I'll wait 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.480 for the funeral, and when the coffin goes on top, 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.320 my job's done. So I ended up going to the 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.840 cemetery and I saw the guy in the backo that 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.280 was digs the graves and I asked him to lower 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.560 me down, and he's like, and I told him the story, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.639 told him what I do. I didn't tell him what 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.440 I was going to do down there. I'm an investigator. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.600 I wanted to look at graves. That was basically my 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:24.000 story for him, and he says, ah, he says, he said, 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.840 what's in it for me? Like everybody, I got a 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.719 couple hundred bucks and he goes, yeah, sure, not a problem. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.080 I said, okay, So I gave him a couple hundred bucks. 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.320 He lowers me down. I'm six foot one. There's no 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.760 fucking way that was six foot under. I'm telling you 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.960 it was like eight ten feet. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.639 So we got that wrong. It's send foot one. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.159 Anyway, he lows me down and I'm standing at the 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:49.000 bottom and he's put the bucket back up. He yells 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:50.720 out and he says, I'll be back in a minute, 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.119 and I said, yeah, no, worries great, because I'm going 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.880 to dig a hole. The little little bag I had, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:01.199 I had like this. It wasn't a screwdriver. It's a chisel. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.359 And I took that purposely because I knew the ground 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.639 might be hot. It turns out I didn't need a 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.960 big hole. And I thought, how I'm digging away, digging 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.640 away anyway. I bury this thing, get it all in, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.720 and I'm standing there. This guy in the back is 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.840