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Speaker 1: The Fits and with a with Kate whichie podcast Dan.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to say I love Dan, and I

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Speaker 1: love that people like Dan exist because I do think

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Speaker 1: that they they believe truly that they are bringing good

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Speaker 1: to the world, and they know stuff that other people

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's a level of sarcasm in your voice.

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Speaker 1: Now come on, And I think Dan also believes that

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't for him, us little ladies wouldn't know

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Speaker 1: what to do or think.

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Speaker 3: That's where we're going.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start by telling you that he has

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Speaker 1: a podcast called make Me a Sandwich. So that's where

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Speaker 1: that's our starting.

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Speaker 2: That's where starting. I know what I can put in

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Speaker 2: the sandwich exactly.

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Speaker 1: Buckle in. So he has a podcast called make Me

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Speaker 1: a Sandwich. Please don't look for it, because what I

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Speaker 1: don't want to do is talk about Dan Mattarra and

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Speaker 1: get people involved. Ignore this guy beyond this point. He

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Speaker 1: spark outrage after he shared just some controversial views about

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Speaker 1: women that he's thinly veiled as advice and perhaps advice

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Speaker 1: to men like you guys, and telling you what we need.

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Speaker 1: He's a dating expert, he's an attraction coach, and he's

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Speaker 1: gone viral over his opinion that women shouldn't work because

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Speaker 1: of their biology. Now you know, the idea of not

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Speaker 1: working sets my heart on fire, and I.

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Speaker 3: Know you're excited about it.

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Speaker 1: That would be part of me that you know me.

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Speaker 1: I just want to buy a little house in the country.

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Speaker 1: I want to total down the freeway. I want to

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Speaker 1: make jam. I mean, if I was younger, maybe I'd

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Speaker 1: pop out lots of babies and I'd have a dog,

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Speaker 1: and I'd make cake and you could all come.

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Speaker 3: Well, make me a sandwich.

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Speaker 1: I'd make you a sandwich, like this is the guy

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, if I'm not going to work,

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Speaker 1: I will make that decision for me. I don't need

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Speaker 1: Dan to tell me that I'm allowed. You're se saying

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Speaker 1: that Dan is right, or that I should know. I

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Speaker 1: have so much information on this sheet about what he thinks.

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Speaker 1: But I think the best thing to do is just

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Speaker 1: let Dan explain it.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say this as clearly as I can.

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Speaker 4: All any woman wants in life is to be at home,

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Speaker 4: taking care of herself, her kids.

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Speaker 2: And her environments.

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Speaker 4: Women are not meant to work, literally, hormonally, not meant

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Speaker 4: to their bodies don't handle stress the way a man's

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Speaker 4: DofE and their fertility and overall femininity are much more

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Speaker 4: severely impacted by that stress. But what are they told?

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Speaker 4: You're just like men, So they take on the stress

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Speaker 4: of a career, They take synthetic hormones that got the

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Speaker 4: essence of their femininity just so they can be sexually liberated.

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Speaker 4: They actively pursue independence when they are specifically designed to

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Speaker 4: be dependent. And here's the saddest part. Most women hear

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Speaker 4: that and find the defensive because society tells them it is.

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Speaker 4: But in reality, women are a precious resource that provides

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Speaker 4: a life, and they should be proud of being prediculble.

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Speaker 1: Losing me Dan, Wow, you got a lot to say,

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Speaker 1: haven't you.

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Speaker 3: Dan, You've a lot to say to you very quickly.

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Speaker 3: So when you said you wanted to move to the

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Speaker 3: country and make jam, isn't that what Dan's saying?

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Speaker 1: No, But Dan doesn't need to tell me that. That's

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Speaker 1: something that I've come up with in my tiny little

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Speaker 1: lady brain by yourself. Yes, I thought of that. I

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Speaker 1: thought of that all myself. And you know what, Yes,

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Speaker 1: there are parts of me that that lean into the feminine,

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Speaker 1: and that I would love, I would love to do

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I just I think that

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Speaker 1: any person that's telling a woman what she should do

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Speaker 1: and that he understands the biology of women more than

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Speaker 1: they do, it's not I don't know, it's not really

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Speaker 1: good place. And he's not a doctor. He's a dating

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Speaker 1: expert and an attraction. He has some opinions and I

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Speaker 1: guess he's entitled to.

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Speaker 2: But the sad thing about it, Kate, the only reason

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Speaker 2: he's done this is to get a reaction. And this

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Speaker 2: is the thing. And unfortunately we live in a world

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Speaker 2: now where it's talkback radio, it's you know, people are

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Speaker 2: going on there, it's Steve Price on the project. They

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Speaker 2: are picking subjects that they know that are going to

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Speaker 2: get a reaction. It's Sky News, it's all of them.

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Speaker 1: Are you saying I've been sucked in? I've given Dan

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Speaker 1: exactly what he is wanting.

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Speaker 3: What he wanted. But when we were talking about this yesterday,

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Speaker 3: about Lily Allen saying that she thinks it's impossible to

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Speaker 3: be a great mum and have a career and.

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Speaker 1: Have and have a level of pop start in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she said it's impossible, And you don't know

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Speaker 2: what she said, her kids ruined her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they ruined her career. They actually ruined her career,

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Speaker 3: but they complete her at the same time. So that's

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Speaker 3: the juggle that she's dealing with. But I would think

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Speaker 3: when you do see people that manage to do it,

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Speaker 3: you wonder.

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Speaker 2: Are they happy? Does that work?

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Speaker 3: And then you also think too, maybe it is possible

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Speaker 3: at different stages of your life. So when your kids

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Speaker 3: are a little bit older, going to find more flexibility

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Speaker 3: if you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: Parent them, Yeah, I think, well, I think with all

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Speaker 1: of that, what you realize is that you know, it

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Speaker 1: takes a village.

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Speaker 3: To raise a child.

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Speaker 1: You can't. I don't think you can do everything on

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Speaker 1: your own.

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Speaker 3: And there's a little house in that village and there's

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Speaker 3: a girl there.

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Speaker 1: With a big fence making jam very big fence in

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Speaker 1: a hot stone and.

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Speaker 3: She's got Coop pop on a Wednesdow.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, whatever you do today, I mean, do anything, call

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Speaker 1: the show, get involved to get some sunshine, but do

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