1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: From the newsroom a news still come to you. Good 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: day there. 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Bucklow, and in today's episode, we're going to 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: give you a rare glimpse behind palace doors. A former 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: royal butler who worked for Charles from two thousand and 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: four to twenty eleven, is going to pull back the 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: curtain on royal life for you. He'll reveal what the 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: King and Queen are really like. He'll address the alleged 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: tension between Harry and Camilla, and yes, he's even going 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: to respond to those bizarre rumors we've all heard about 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: Charles that he gets his shoelaces ironed and likes to 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: travel with a spared toilet seat. Not a bad idea. 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: This is your all access pass to the hidden world 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: of Royalty News dot com dot use. Royal reporter and 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: London Brontecoy recently interviewed Grant Harold, who has a book 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: coming out this week called The Royal Butler, My Remarkable 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Life of Royal Service. I'm going to play some of 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: the highlights now, starting with how Grant actually got his 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: job with the Royal family in two thousand and four 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: when he was in his mid twenties. 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: Ahead, there was a job in the roy house hold. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: Then I started applying six months of interviews and eventually 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: I get offered the opportunity to meet with the now King, 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: which was the final interview. I had this phone call 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: from Klana's house. It's very posh lady, and she said, 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: you know, I've got some good news some bad news. 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: The good news is you are going to meet His Royhighness. 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: The bad news is we haven't anywhere else for you 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: to go up against, and we need others for you 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: to be up against. So he's got he can choose. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: And I said, and me and mine, I'm twenty five 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: years old. I said, I'm terribly sorry. I'm very busy 33 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: and if he can't see me, then I'm probably gonna 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: have to decline the opportunity of this interview because I've 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: got I'm just very busy and I've got other things 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: going on. And the lady was very quite shocked, and 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: she said, well, can we wish you the best of 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: luck with your career and I will pass that on. 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: And now later the phone goes again. It's the same lady, 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: this posh lady from Clara's house. Oh, yes, we passed 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: on your message to his jo Highness and his team, 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: and we're wondering if you could come meet with him 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: next week, next Tuesday. And I thought, oh my god, 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: I've just blackmailed the Prince of Wales. And I said, 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: of course. I said yes, I can make it. I 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: didn't even have the day off. I was thinking, God, 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: how do I do this. I said, yes, I can 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: make it. And I remember going up to London and 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 3: I remember getting this taxi and I remember the taxi driver. 50 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 3: It's out of a movie. The taxi driver said way 51 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: two and I said Clarence House. And the guy said, oh, 52 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: I suppose you're off to see a future king. And 53 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: I was like, I am actually, and he couldn't believe it, 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: and he took me and dropped me off and I 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: walked in and I remember going to Clarence's house and 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: I was putting this waiting room next to about this pantry, 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: and what made me really nervous was there was a 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 3: picture of him on the wall. And I said, he thought, 59 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: oh my god, wait a minute, I'm going to actually meet 60 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: this guy in a minute. And then my heart started 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: and I think, what what have I got myself into? 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: And I had this bell sound go off. I said. 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: It was all this noise and commotion and the bat 64 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 3: that came through, and he says, right, it's time to 65 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: go in. You know the one thing I was remember 66 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: this but saying to me, if you don't get the job, 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: we'll give you the day card. And the day card 68 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: is basically it's like something like this. It's it's like 69 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: this kind of size and it's got the crest is 70 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: chriss and here it would say what he's doing, and 71 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: it had it had me on there. And he said, 72 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 3: we'll give you that as a keepsake if you don't 73 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: get the if you don't get the position, so you 74 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: always remember this day, I thought, And I remember thinking 75 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: I don't want that. I want the job. And we 76 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: go in the room and when we walk in, I 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: was so like, ah, it's him, and he put his 78 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: hand out, slap at my hand out, shake hands. He 79 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: says welcome, obviously welcome, and then he said, then I 80 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: don't if you know, if you know missus Packer Bowl 81 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: one of the most famous, the other most famous people 82 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: in the world. So we shake hands and then we 83 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: all sat down and those whole other second choose and 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: stuff sitting and then we had this very nice, very 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: laxed interview talking about my childhood, my dream's ambitions, and 86 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: I remember at the end of it he said, do 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: you really want to work for me? Do you really 88 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: want to help me? And I said so, I'd love 89 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: the opportunity, and he said, we'll give us a few 90 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: days and we'll see. So I left hopeful, and a 91 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: couple of days later I got this massive, a four 92 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: letter in with the Queen's insignia er and as soon 93 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: as I pulled it open, I could see, we're pleased 94 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: to inform you, and I knew that was it. So 95 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: then I'd go and tell my employers that you and 96 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: Dutch to bed for that I was leaving, and of 97 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: course I was crying and everything telling them, and then 98 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: I had a few months and then I started working 99 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: for them, and nobody could believe it, none of my 100 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: friends or family, because I'd always said this is what 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: I was going to do. 102 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: And of course you wound up working in high growth 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: for seven years from two thousand and four years eleven. 104 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 4: We all know now that was a really critical time 105 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: for the royal family. As you mentioned, you know, with 106 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: the then Camilla Parker Balls and she and Charles were 107 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: still in that phase where they were in a bit 108 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: of a pr overhaul. I was, obviously after all of 109 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: the damaging years of his divorce with Diana and of 110 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: course Diana's tragic death. What was your impression of Camilla 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: and Charles as a couple during that time? 112 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: So let me tell you what was interest And somebody 113 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: said to me the other day, and I hadn't thought 114 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: about it, and I really hadn't thought about it, because 115 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: it's interesting that other people's perspective and hearing other people's views. 116 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: Somebody said to the other day, you're very much in 117 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: the golden era of his time, if you like. And 118 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 3: what they were trying to explain to me was that, obviously, 119 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: sadly we've lost Princess Dana, which was horrendous. And can 120 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: I just say he was devastated by that. A lot 121 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: of people say he wasn't. I know he was devastated 122 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: by that, and I didn't know him at that point. 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: I'm aware of years after that that was a big thing, 124 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: you know, for all of them. And when people say 125 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: he didn't love her and stuff, I don't believe that 126 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: for a second. But what I am aware of is 127 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: that when I was there, As you just said, it 128 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: was the weben building of his reputation, of his life, 129 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: his new marriage women Harry, a family unit once again, 130 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: because obviously those are family union in the Timber Princess Dana, 131 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: of course there was, and then it all became a 132 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: single parent and then suddenly there's this whole entire new 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: second year, if you like. And that's very much when 134 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: I was there, from the beginning of that right through 135 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: until wom and Kate got married and Harry basically all 136 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: kind of moved out. It was very much a real 137 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: family time I was there, which is why I found 138 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: it difficult when Harry says some of the stuff he said, 139 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: because you know, not quite how I remember it, but 140 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: everyone's got their own views, I suppose, and it was 141 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: quite a specially time. Now, what was interest with Charlis 142 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: and Camilla was they were amazing quen ky Milla was 143 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: brilliant with me, and she was very kind, she was 144 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: very gracious, she was very sweet. I sically at Christmas 145 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: cards and gifts and personally from her. Before she was married, 146 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: I used to go to her house, which we all 147 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: now know she's got her own house, and I used 148 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: to go over there to do stuff or to see 149 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: her or take stuff. And she was always very sweet 150 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: and very welcoming, and she was great fun to be around, 151 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: great fun. And the two of them absolutely what a 152 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: great team. I mean, best friends, but gosh, the two 153 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: of them was so funny together. And we've seen that. 154 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: There's been clips over the years of when they get 155 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: the giggles and stuff. So she's been a great companion 156 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: to him. And again when people say, well, they always 157 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: see each other since they were teenagers or you know, 158 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: great teens, why why did he not marry? Why do 159 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: you not marry? Do you know what? How many people 160 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: in our lives do we meet they say they met 161 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: the true love when they were in a teenage or 162 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: in the twenties, they went separate ways, had separate families, 163 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: and they've come back together. It's just meant it's fake, 164 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: it's meant to be. It's one of those things. And 165 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: if he had gone straight with Camilla, we wouldn't have 166 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: Prince William, the beautiful Princess of Wales, we wouldn't have 167 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: this wonderful family. So we've got the best of both worlds. 168 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: You know. 169 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: Obviously, some tragic things along the way, horrible things along 170 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: the way, and it's sad, of course it's sad, but 171 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: there's so many great positive things as well. 172 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: In just a moment, Grant will address the rumored tension 173 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: between Harry and Camilla. 174 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 175 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: You are listening to news dot com dot use Brontie 176 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: Coy speaking to former royal butler Grant. 177 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: Harold, you were there. 178 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: When the world was still getting used to the idea 179 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: of Charles and Camella, so it's really interesting to get 180 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: that inside of their warmth back then. But on the 181 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: flip side, as you mentioned, there has been a lot 182 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: made of that period, especially in Harry's memoir Spare. I 183 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: just want to read you one quote that he said. 184 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: So. 185 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: Harry wrote in Spare, I had complex feelings about gaining 186 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: a step parent who I believed had recently sacrificed me 187 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: on her personal pr altar. In a funny way, I 188 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: even wanted Camilla to be happy. Maybe she'd be less 189 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: dangerous if she was happy. What did you make of 190 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: that quote when you heard it? 191 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: It's just stranged. I mean, as I said, I think 192 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: the Queen once made a really good comment. Then she 193 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: said different recollections made death or something she not make 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: some famous. 195 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: Men, WI is my very Yeah. 196 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. That's exactly what she said. And I think 197 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: such a wise woman. That was a very good choice 198 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: of words. And I think that's the perfect way to 199 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: sum it up is recollections do very and this is 200 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: a perfect example because my memories and heirs are obviously 201 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: very different. And I'm not saying that that wasn't going 202 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: through his mind. I don't know what's going through his mind. 203 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: All I know from my point of view and from 204 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: what I witnessed is they got on. They got on. 205 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he supported his father, he supported her. 206 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: They spent time together as a family, They spent time together, 207 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 3: they went away together, they did stuff together, went to 208 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: Scotland together. I never saw him refusing to do stuff 209 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: or saying I don't want to because it's hard, or 210 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 3: anything like that. So when all this kind of came out, 211 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: I was shocked. Now, don't get wrong, because he talks 212 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: with mental health and you know, and I'm fully aware 213 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: of you know, got some very people very close to 214 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: myself from mental health, and you never know what people 215 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: think and you know what's going on in the mind. 216 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: So I'm not disagreeing That's why the Queen's choice of 217 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: words were perfect, because it could have moved through his 218 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: mind and people just didn't realize that. I mean, I've 219 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: even spoke to one or two former colleagues who have 220 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: also left, and we've talked about it, and we all 221 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: agree we don't remember there ever been any issues or 222 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: anything that was openly known. So it just seems strange 223 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: as to why now he would attack her. It doesn't 224 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: make sense. Can I just say she is one of 225 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: the nicest whatever people, and I know people get different 226 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: views of her, and because I know people feel strongly 227 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 3: about what's happened in the past, but I think it's 228 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: unfair judging her because I've always said, unless you know her, 229 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: it's really unfair because she's one of the nicest, kindest 230 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: people you could meet. She really has got no agenda, 231 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: you know, becoming a queen doing the job she's doing. 232 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: She never signed up Like what she signed up for 233 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: was to marry the man that she'd loved, and she 234 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: loves them and the best friends. That's all she's done 235 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: and all she's done supporting him for goinn to say 236 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: when he was, you know, announced his illness and I 237 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 3: had to take some serious time out. She said he 238 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: was having to act as a full time if you 239 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: like Regent in some aspects. You know, she was suddenly 240 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: standing in for a husband, and it's extraordinary what she's 241 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: stepped up and done. And thankfully, as you know, they're 242 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: managing to do so well with health and everything, and 243 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: then they're all stepping back into the roles. She's getting 244 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: to kind of go back a little bit. And so 245 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: it seems unfair that, you know, I'm sure Harry must 246 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: be sitting and thinking, you know, what she has. She 247 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: must be thinking what an amazing job she's doing, because 248 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,359 Speaker 3: she's doing an amazing job. So I wonder if he regrets. 249 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: I have wondered if he regrets. You know, sometimes you 250 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: say something thing, why did I say that? And he 251 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 3: might have said out of context, maybe he said at 252 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: the heat of the moment, but I wonder if you 253 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: regret it. And the problem is you can't take things 254 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: back when they're out, especially with the media, when you 255 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: say stuff and put it out that you can't suddenly 256 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: take it back without really good reason, you know, when 257 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: this is a real reason for it. 258 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: One thing I always want to know from people that 259 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 4: have you know, had these interactions with the worlds over 260 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: the years. There are so many stories that float around. 261 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: And what's one thing you've seen in the press that 262 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: you just you wish you could squash or just clear 263 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: up right now. 264 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: Well, there's there's many things. There is many things that 265 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: come up. I think one of the things always frustrates 266 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: me is and you know a lot of people I've 267 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: seen comments, people kind of saying, oh, he's another butt 268 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: of speaking out and all this kind of thing always 269 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: makes me sad because there's so many people that have 270 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: what they have gone out and said things that are 271 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 3: just not fair or or made rumors or stories up. 272 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: And I think it's a bit unfair. 273 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 5: Charles is incredibly fussy about his eggs. He's so particular 274 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 5: that staff are required to cook six at a time 275 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: just to guarantee at least two turn out exactly the 276 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 5: way he likes. 277 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm being completely honest with you, it's 278 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: when you hear the stories about the king having all 279 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: these eggs for his breakfast, having shoelaces eye and having 280 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: a loose he carries all these extraordinary stories and you've 281 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: got staff members that talk about this and and I'm 282 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: thinking what different so you make and seeing these things. 283 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: And also it just doesn't make sense. I mean, if 284 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 3: you ever tried to iron shoelaces, it's why would you 285 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: iron shoelace? It just doesn't make sense. 286 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: So I was going to actually specifically ask you about this. 287 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: Is that's a story that pops up all the time, 288 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: that has been circulating for years from before he became 289 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: the king. And of course it lends itself to a 290 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: broader perception then that he's quite fussy. That's kind of 291 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: the impression you get from that. So you're saying now 292 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: that those that those details aren't true, that ironing the shoelaces. 293 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: Let me be completely frankly honest. I never witnessed empty 294 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: and the eggs getting cooked. From me, he loves eggs, 295 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: it's none. He loves eggs. It's been talked about he 296 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: has a boiled egg whatever, maybe way back in the 297 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: day when they'll try it. When you know, yeah, you 298 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: if you go and ask for an egg to be 299 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: cooking something, you get it done and it's too hard, 300 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: it's too soft. That we all do that, Okay, So 301 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with that. But this rumor, this thing 302 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: about all these eggs predented him is ridiculous shoelaces, I know, 303 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: for a fat shoelaces. When I'm I mean, I was there. 304 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of these stories that come 305 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: out and I just don't know where comfortable why they 306 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: can out. It's just it's just so bizarre where they 307 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: come from. And it's it's frustrating because then I get 308 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 3: asked about it and I'm like, I don't know where 309 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: you've got this from. And then you hear it's other 310 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: people's versions and stories and maybe they did, maybe for 311 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: some reason, but what I can get it you let's 312 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: just say, let's just putat this, say there was a 313 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: Varlet or Butler something dead iron shoe leases. That wouldn't 314 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: be the Queen, that wouldn't be King's request, that would 315 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: just be some essential Butler or Volet that's thinking. You know, 316 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense. 317 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: There's so much more from Bronte's interview with Grant that 318 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: we couldn't fit into this episode. 319 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: So we're gonna bring you part two. 320 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: Tomorrow and I'll tell you what it's worth tuning in 321 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: just to hear this bizarre story about the queen. 322 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: She used to do things that cuts you off guard 323 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: in one occasion when she raced me down, accorded it, 324 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: and at the end of it she gave me a wink. 325 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna think you're so cooled. 326 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: How random is that, the Queen racing a butler down 327 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: a hole? Anyway? You can hear that story in full 328 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: on tomorrow's episode. Follow or subscribe to from the Newsroom 329 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.