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Well, 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: they don't need any pepping up, because I'll tell you 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: what they had to be on the edge of their 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: seats with the Thaie Cave rescue with the twelve boys 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: that happened over there. These two were in Perth and Adelaide, 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: and we want to know how they got from there 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: all the way over to Thailand to help with this amazing, well, 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: this amazing rescue and escape. Their new book is called 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Against All Odds. Richard Harrison, Craig chall and welcome to 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: the show point. 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: Where did it start? So how did the phone call 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: get to you guys? 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: Well that probably started with me, so I was in 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: Adelaide working in the operating theaters and I had a 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 4: call from Rick Stanton, who was one of the British 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: divers over there, and he had come up with this 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 4: crazy idea of sedating these children to bring them out 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: through the cave, and as an anesthetist and a cave diver, 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: and both Craig and I already knew Rick. Yeah, he 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: rang through to me and said what do you think? 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 4: And I said, that is completely ridiculous. Yeah, serious, but 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: we're happy to come over and give you a hand regardless. 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 4: And that's where it started. 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: And so okay, so Craig you're you're a vet. 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, close enough. 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: So I mean, what was your role in all of this? 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: Well, I was pretending to be a doctor at the 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: executive course. And it turned out all the other guys 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 5: as well, the other divers, a fireman and ropexis work 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 5: and a couple of it dudes, and they all had 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: a expedited anesthetic course as well or signed off with 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 5: the certificate in underwater anesthesia. 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: And the way we. 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: Went underwater anesthesia, what can possibly go wrong? 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: I mean, but how many people would be across that 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: well fourteen now, of course, this is the first time. 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: This was the first time it was done. 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially. Yeah, So what was unprecedented? 48 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: What was the distance again from opening to where the 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: boys were. 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: About two point six kilometers about a three hour roardinary. 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: So what was the most difficult part of the route? 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: Oh? Well, yeah, there are all sorts, you know, different spots, 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: you know, the whole the whole way. It was zero 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 4: visibility that the water was pretty much like coffee. You 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: couldn't see anything. And there were several spots where they 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: were quite tight restrictions to pass through. 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: So for you guys, I mean, the kids are quite 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: small to get through those gaps. But were there any 59 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: moments where you guys got stuck. 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 5: Oh no, we don't do it. This is what we 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: do all the time. It's no biggie for us. Yes, 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: but it's a different thing when you got these little 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 5: humans that you're in charge of, you to try and 64 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 5: get them out, and that's what we're. 65 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: Not used to. 66 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: And how were they attached to you? 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 5: Well, I weren't attached with most of the divers that 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: just hold on to them because there were tethers there 69 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: that you could clip them off to yourself. But that's 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: an entanglement has it's a bit dangerous, so you better 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 5: to just hold them. 72 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: And they were drugged to keep them calm. 73 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was impossible to expect that they could dive 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: out for three hours in zero visibility and not panic 75 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: at some point. 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just claustrophobic right now thinking about it. I 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: have just instantly my heart rate has gone. 78 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: Up because youre quoted as saying too, when you first 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: sort of assess the situation, you thought chance of survival zero. 80 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: That was my view. I didn't think this could possibly work. 81 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: So it was with some trepidation that we began the process, 82 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: that's for sure. 83 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they were going to if we're left in 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 5: the left them in there, they were going to die anyway, 85 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: So we're having to make that situation any worse. It 86 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: was worth a go. 87 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: So there were conversations at one stage about drilling down 88 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: or drilling into the side to rescue the boys. Weren't 89 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: They all sorts. 90 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: Of other plans in place, trying to find different entrances, 91 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: draining the cave water to try and lower the level 92 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 4: so we could just swim them out, you know, even 93 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: leaving them in there for the monsoon season. And providing 94 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: them with sufficient food and medical care. But one by 95 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: one all those plans fell away. It just became we 96 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: realized that all of those things were impossible and would 97 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: lead to a fatal outcome. So it was left with 98 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: this idea of try this desperate plan which we didn't 99 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: really believe would work, or leave them to die a 100 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: much more prolonged death. So, yeah, it was tricky. 101 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: Why did you administer them ketamine? Wow? So that is 102 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: that a relaxant? 103 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: It's a general anesthetic drug in appropriate doses. 104 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: Okay, don't they use it on horses? 105 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 106 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: So it's a vetery anesthetic as well as a human one, 107 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: and it's used extensively in both those areas. 108 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Does that bring the heart rate right down? 109 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 5: So? 110 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: What what are they feeling in that situation? Do they 111 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: feel like they want to go to sleep or they 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: are asleep? 113 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: They're totally asleep, like you could do an operation on them. 114 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: Wow? So the boys were asleep? Did they wake at 115 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: any time in the three hours? 116 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 6: Yeah? 117 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 5: They start because the anesthetic could wear off about every 118 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: forty five minutes or so, and so that's why everybody 119 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 5: had to be ready to give them top ups. All 120 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 5: the divers had a little rescue pack with them with 121 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 5: these syringes, and they just give it straight into. 122 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: The leg, the drips already in them. 123 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 5: Crack. No, just had a needle on the syringe and 124 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 5: just straight through the weather into the leg through the wetsuit. 125 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: Jee oh my god. 126 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: So you'd be halfway in the pitch black dark water 127 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: like coffee and you'd just stabing it or through the 128 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: wet seed in the leg. 129 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: Well, I would wait till they get up into a 130 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 4: chamber where there's air above the water, and so the 131 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 4: British divers who had to do this would be floating 132 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: down the river and pull out the syringe and jab 133 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 4: them in the leg. So the boys don't remember anything 134 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: about the journey out from the time an esthetized them 135 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 4: in the Far End when they got to the hospital 136 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 4: pretty much. So that yeah, so. 137 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: You did the first boy, You rescue the first boy 138 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: three hours and then you go right, we got another 139 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: what eleven in there? 140 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: Well, no, we had to be a bit more efficient 141 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 4: than that, because I stayed at the far End and 142 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: would send out one boy every hour or so, and 143 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: then these British divers would take them all the way 144 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: through the cave and Craig was just one step down 145 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: the line to do the first assessment when they came 146 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 4: out of the first dive and help the Brits top 147 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: them up and make sure they were safe and send 148 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: them on their way again. 149 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 5: So they're all going down the line and we didn't 150 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 5: know until the end of the first day whether any 151 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 5: of them had survived or not. They could have all died. 152 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: So you're in there, Craig, You're at a certain stop 153 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: on the journey, right and you're giving them another shot 154 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: every time they get there. So you're counting all right, now, 155 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 2: we've done six, got another six to go. You don't 156 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: know if the others have made it out. 157 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 5: No, no, So we did four on the first day. Yes, 158 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 5: and we got out about seven or eight o'clock that night, 159 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: and then we've found out whether it worked or not. 160 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 3: There was a diver that passed away before you guys 161 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: went in. I think he was one of the first divers. 162 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: He was a Thai navy diver or former navy diver, 163 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: and he died on the morning that we arrived in Thailand. 164 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: So what happened to him, Well, we don't exactly know 165 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 4: how many drowned in the cave. And we don't know 166 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: whether that's because he lost the line, panicked in the 167 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: zero visibility, ran out of air. We're not exactly sure, 168 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: but yeah, they attempted to resuscitate him and ended up 169 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: just bringing his body out. 170 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: So what was your confidence hearing that story and you 171 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: just landed on the ground. 172 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, this guy is a Thai Navy seal, 173 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: formerly the most elite combat divers in the world. But 174 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: the thing is that these guys are not trained specifically 175 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 4: for this environment, and unfortunately, history is littered with stories 176 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: of very competent, expert divers who feel that they can 177 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: dive in caves and this sort of tragedy ensues. 178 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: How are you guys experienced in these situations? 179 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 5: Not in rescues body recoveries in the past, Yeah, and 180 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 5: a couple of MoU dive trips or we've been around 181 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: the traps with carave diving for a while. So I've 182 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: been doing it for over twenty years, so Harry's probably 183 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: closer to thirty years. 184 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh wow, what's the deepest you've gone in a 185 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: cave dive? 186 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: Two hundred and thirty meters? 187 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: Now when you come back up, you can't come back 188 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: up for quite a while. You've got to spend hours 189 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: down there before you can hit the surf for a 190 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: long time, a long time, because then you could dive 191 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: from that, can't you when you get to the surface. 192 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you've got to do what we call decompression 193 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: stops on the way up. So from these deep dives 194 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: that Craig and I do in the in a cave 195 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: in New Zealand, takes about thirteen hours to get back 196 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: to the surface. 197 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: My gosh, so body retrieval. So there are people that 198 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: have got caught and you know where they might be. 199 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, well you've got to do a search for them. 200 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: Yep. 201 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 5: Usually generally they'll be on their own. I mean, not 202 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 5: vastly experienced in this to just start at the beginning 203 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: and work your way through it. The thing with the recoveries, 204 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: there's no urgency to it, so that you don't need 205 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 5: to risk anybody else and you just take it step 206 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 5: by step, whereas with a rescue it is really urgent. 207 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 5: And while we're in Thailand, there's this constant pressure that 208 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 5: these monsoon rains were coming off the cave was going 209 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: to flood properly, and when that happened, we just packed 210 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 5: up the tools and went home. There was nothing to 211 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 5: do after that. 212 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: Tell us about what a moment outside of the cave 213 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: we had rescued one or a couple of the boys 214 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: and their families were there. Is there a clear memory 215 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: in your mind of the Well, it. 216 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: Might sound strange, but you know, we never met the 217 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: families of these boys while we're in Thailand. The British 218 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: divers who were there before us had had some dealings 219 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: with them, and for either intentionally or otherwise, we never 220 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 4: got to meet the Sure Sure kid the parents of 221 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: these kids, which I think actually was a good thing, 222 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: because what on earth were we going to tell these parents. 223 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: You know, we've got this plan, but we've got zero 224 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: confidence that it will work. Yeah, you want us to 225 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: have a go or you know, how could they possibly 226 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: make eving? It's an operation? 227 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: But have you met the boys? 228 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, we went back and saw them in April this year. 229 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: Beautiful personality. I've seen them, and then they're on the 230 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: circuit now as well. I mean they're so famous over there. 231 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: Their little celebrities in Thailand. 232 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, lovely boy, lovely. 233 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 5: Boys, really respectful. 234 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: We could start a boy band. 235 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: Good kids, that's amazing. This is a fascinating story. Well, 236 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: so did you boys know each other before this? 237 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been diving together for a long time, since 238 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 5: about two thousand and five. We've done a lot of expeditions. 239 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: I bet you never thought I can see this coming 240 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: and lucky enough to meet fit in the studio. 241 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: I can't believe this is happening. 242 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: The book one for amazing and thank you so much 243 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: for chapter twelve, the interviewing Against All Lives. It's one 244 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: of my favorites. We want to rescue. You've rescued an 245 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: entire radio station as well. 246 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: We met Harry and Meghan. 247 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 6: This is. 248 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: No boys, It's a fascinating story for more day times 249 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: and going through all of it Against the Lord's the book. 250 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: He's out now, Richard Harris Creicht Chell, and thank you 251 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: very much for coming you boys. 252 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 5: Thanks g. 253 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 6: This is a cast recommends. 254 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: Every week we pick one. 255 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 6: Of our favorite shows, and this is one we think 256 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 6: you're gonna love. 257 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 7: God Bless everybody. 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