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Speaker 1: On scorn littles Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wada Panalkey Show.

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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panekey Show. I'm

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Speaker 1: Danika di Giorgio coming up tonight, and your report finds

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Speaker 1: social cohesion has crumbled under the Albanesi government. Are we surprised?

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Speaker 1: I'll get into that with my panel. Iran's regime Alexa

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Speaker 1: new leader as the IDF launches a wave of strikes

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Speaker 1: across Iran. Peter Jennings will break down the latest developments.

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Speaker 1: The US and UK have fallen out spectacularly over Iran

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Speaker 1: after Donald Trump absolutely demolished Prime Minister Kiir Starmer Josh

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Speaker 1: Hammer is coming up another day, another blow for Australia's

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Speaker 1: renewables only experiment, with another green company cutting part of

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Speaker 1: its workforce. I and Climber will weigh in and of

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Speaker 1: course left he's losing it. Imagine the Left's reaction to

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Speaker 1: this bagger.

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Speaker 3: Aetla Haamine's dead.

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Speaker 1: But first tonight, the Isis bride saga has taken another turn.

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Speaker 1: There are reports that new South Wales prison guards are

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Speaker 1: being trained to watch over the Isis brides via a

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Speaker 1: specialized course called Women in Violent extremism. According to sources

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Speaker 1: who have spoken to the Australian training teaching teachers guards

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Speaker 1: how to work with Category five prisoners, that is, female

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Speaker 1: inmates who are deemed a special risk to national security,

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Speaker 1: such as those involved in or inciting terrorism related activities.

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Speaker 1: One Nation leader Senator Pauline Hansen says New South Wales

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Speaker 1: prison guards have contacted her out of concern for public

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Speaker 1: safety and their own welfare. For more on this, let's

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Speaker 1: bring in News Corps senior writer Patrick Carlyon and Institute

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Speaker 1: of Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harken. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you both again. Thanks for joining me. Patrick. So you know,

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Speaker 1: now these brides become possibly the issue of prison bosses

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Speaker 1: who then have to babysit them. I just think this

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Speaker 1: saga gets worse and worse. What do you make at

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Speaker 1: the developments?

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Speaker 4: Well, look, this latest news sort of suggests that they're

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Speaker 4: definitely coming back, doesn't it Now. I think paul Enhanson

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Speaker 4: got it right. Some people might call Pauline devices, but

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Speaker 4: I think one hundred percent of Australians think that these

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Speaker 4: people should not be allowed to come back, and there's

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Speaker 4: been a very shadowy sort of process they're allowed to

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Speaker 4: renew their passports, they started coming back. It's unclear really

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Speaker 4: how much government involvement has been put into bringing them back.

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Speaker 4: And the point is none of us want them back.

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Speaker 4: They're dangerous and the fact that they're going to be

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Speaker 4: you know, it looks after in prisons. Who's paying for that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think we are all very united on

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Speaker 4: this issue.

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Speaker 1: Look, Absolu's a good point. Who's going to pay for it? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: And Colleen, I just think that this goes to show

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Speaker 1: no government department seems to know how to handle these brides,

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Speaker 1: and yet by all accounts, they're likely to come back.

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Speaker 1: But the problem here, and it stems from the heart

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Speaker 1: of this issue, is that they should not even be

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Speaker 1: allowed back here in the first place. Well, that's right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, these people left knowing full well where they

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Speaker 5: were going. It was actually illegal at the time for

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Speaker 5: them to leave. They've gone to assist in isis Islamic

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Speaker 5: regime scenario. Nobody wants them back. Our government is hell

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Speaker 5: bent on shutting down free speech. If you have an opinion,

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Speaker 5: that's going to be criminalized, and yet we're helping these

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Speaker 5: people come back into a place where it is endagering

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Speaker 5: national security, UK, for example, has been able to handle

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Speaker 5: this by stripping iss brides of their citizenship. I don't

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Speaker 5: understand why Australia is not taking those measures as well.

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Speaker 5: They've been able to do it under the basis that

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Speaker 5: they have parental heritage of other countries and or about

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Speaker 5: national security. Our government's not even looking at these things.

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Speaker 1: No. I mean, of course, because our boy's got a

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Speaker 1: panda to you to his base. Is he's doing it

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Speaker 1: all for votes as he has been for the last

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Speaker 1: two years now, speaking of we knew this and our

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Speaker 1: research has confirmed that social cohesion is crumbling under the

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Speaker 1: Albanese government. Who would have thought. A report by the

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Speaker 1: Australian Strategic Policy Institute says Australia is at a point

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Speaker 1: of national reckoning after more than two years of increasingly

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Speaker 1: radical protests, some of which, of course have featured the

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Speaker 1: flags of terror groups. There's been chance of where are

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Speaker 1: the Jews from the River to the Sea globalizing into

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Speaker 1: FATA two and more recently tributes to the dead Iranian

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Speaker 1: dictator Ayatola Hamani Patrick, what do you make of the report?

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Speaker 6: Look?

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Speaker 4: I think the report now? Is it? Danika? This has

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Speaker 4: been ongoing since October twenty twenty three. And the problem

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Speaker 4: is that these extreme sort of symbols have been allowed

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Speaker 4: they should have been. And I think the report makes

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Speaker 4: a very good point in saying, you know, there should

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Speaker 4: be joint statements from the major parties to condemn sort

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Speaker 4: of actual incidents of extremism, to make the point, this

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Speaker 4: is not our Australia, this is not who we are.

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Speaker 4: We will not tolerate this. So I think the report

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Speaker 4: is very timely and very welcome.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And Colleen, you know what on

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Speaker 1: earth has labor done to try and unite the country

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Speaker 1: in these two and a half years since October seven.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not only just about immigration and mass immigration.

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Speaker 5: Freedom comes with responsibility and cohesion comes from an agreed

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Speaker 5: adherence and loyalty to our rule of law, our democracy

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Speaker 5: and our values. And that hasn't been what's been promoted

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Speaker 5: for quite some time, not just in the last couple

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Speaker 5: of years. If we look at, for example, the Bondi scenario,

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Speaker 5: the alleged government was born here and went through our

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Speaker 5: education system, and part of our education system is actually

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Speaker 5: teaching kids to be ashamed of our country, and they're

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Speaker 5: deliberately undermining our social cohesion, teaching the kids to be

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Speaker 5: a global citizen, not a nationally proud citizen of Australia.

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Speaker 5: We have third party providers who give content to schools

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Speaker 5: that teach the kids to sit for the national anthem.

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Speaker 5: We have teachers in schools, we're in kafirs. It's not

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Speaker 5: just at this sort of adult level that this social cohesion,

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Speaker 5: the lack of social cohesion.

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Speaker 1: Is an issue. It's in our schools as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's sad that the next generation have basically been

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Speaker 1: brainwashed into this sort of ideology. I think it's really

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Speaker 1: really concerning now. Look, the war in Iran has happened

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Speaker 1: at just the right time for the Treasurer Jim Chalmers,

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Speaker 1: who's been under increased scrutiny in recent weeks amid surging

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Speaker 1: inflation and worsening living standards. Economist Judah Sloan has warned

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Speaker 1: in the Australian Today to get ready for Jim's flood

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Speaker 1: of global uncertainty excuses, writing that we will be asked

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Speaker 1: to forget about the economic difficulties that had been apparent

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Speaker 1: and concentrate on the economic consequences of global developments in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. Well, you know, Patrick, we know he

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Speaker 1: loves to blame the Ukraine War has been at the

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Speaker 1: top of his list for years, then global heads and

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Speaker 1: what do you think Iran's just perfect now?

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Speaker 4: Really, I think we're still blaming COVID down here in

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Speaker 4: Victoria for a two hundred billion dollar death. Judith is

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Speaker 4: quite right, and I mean there are these underlying issues,

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Speaker 4: the budget deficits that we're being forecast. This is all

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Speaker 4: pre existing what's happened in Iran in the past few days.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure as weeks go by this continues, it

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Speaker 4: will be because of Iran. Iran will be blamed for

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Speaker 4: every economic problem that we have. And there is history

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Speaker 4: on this going back on both sides of the political fence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And then by the time that the budget

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Speaker 1: gets handed down, Colleen, you know they'll make and break

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Speaker 1: their promises and say, oh, well, we had to change

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Speaker 1: course because Iran happened. It's all too predictable.

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Speaker 5: I think Dr Chalmers can't believe his luck. But I'd

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Speaker 5: like to think that the Australian people are not that stupid.

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Speaker 5: We have for a couple of years the pressure on

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Speaker 5: the cost of living. We've felt the consequences of the

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Speaker 5: overspend of government and the inflation. You know, we've sat

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Speaker 5: here feeling it and experiencing it. So I don't think

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Speaker 5: anybody's really going to copy it. That just in the

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Speaker 5: last couple of days has made all the difference. You know,

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Speaker 5: our woes don't belong in the Middle East. Our woes

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Speaker 5: actually have started and begun in Canberra.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they absolutely have from the top down for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about what's going on in both your state

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Speaker 1: right now, Victorian Premier just into Allen's in a world

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Speaker 1: of pain. A new poll by fresh Water Strategy has

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Speaker 1: found that seventy four percent of voters want the state

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Speaker 1: Labor government to be properly investigated, potentially through a Royal commission,

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Speaker 1: regarding criminal infiltration and the corruption of the CFMAU and Victoria.

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Speaker 1: According to that poll, fifty three percent of voters also

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Speaker 1: say the allegations and Labour's weak response would influence their

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Speaker 1: vote come the election in November. You know, Patrick, the

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Speaker 1: fact the Premier keeps, you know, fobbing this off as

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Speaker 1: no Biggie is breathtaking. What are the fallbacks? What are

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Speaker 1: the consequences?

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Speaker 4: Look, you're talking about fifteen billion dollars, Danika, which since

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Speaker 4: Alan argues about she says it's less, but she doesn't

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Speaker 4: want to find out how much it actually is. She

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to find out who was involved, who is

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Speaker 4: to blame, and what we can do to make sure

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Speaker 4: that this doesn't happen again. And at best, I mean

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Speaker 4: I would call that dishonest, just the way she's gone

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Speaker 4: pleased to see that the electorate has cotton on it

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Speaker 4: is and said this is nonsense. We need to know.

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Speaker 4: And if c Cintra Allen loses the election, there will

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Speaker 4: be a royal commission and it will have much wider

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Speaker 4: terms of reference than the one that she should call now,

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Speaker 4: So she might want to reconsider that the politics of

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Speaker 1: No, clearly, and it's not just some CFMU. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's crime. There's so many problems going on there, Colleen.

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Speaker 1: But you know, to Patrick's point, it's good to s

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Speaker 1: the electric responding, what do you make of the polling. Well,

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Speaker 5: It's a great opportunity for the coalition and for Jess

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Speaker 5: Wilson in particular, because the average person looks at this

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Speaker 5: and says, it's fifteen billion dollars of our money that

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Speaker 5: we want to know where it's gone. And the big

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Speaker 5: question is why, why wouldn't you investigate that? Why did

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Speaker 5: she trying to hide it?

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Speaker 1: Push it back?

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Speaker 5: It's a simple question to say, this money's gone somewhere,

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Speaker 5: Where is it uncovered? We want the transparency. So I

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Speaker 5: think it's a great opportunity for the opposition. They should

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Speaker 5: be pushing it harder and longer so that it becomes

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Speaker 5: a real issue at the time of the election campaign

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Speaker 5: rather than just sort of a bubble that goes away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And now look before you both go, we've

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Speaker 1: got to talk about this Kyle and Jackie O saga.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it fascinating? Who would have thought? Former co host

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Speaker 1: of the Kyle and JACKIEO Show on KSFM, Jackie O Henderson,

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Speaker 1: She's addressed her bombshell exit from the decades long part

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Speaker 1: a ship that she had with Kyle Sandalans after he

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Speaker 1: mocked her on air. Now she's told reporters today that

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Speaker 1: she is quote feeling good and that she's healing, but

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Speaker 1: could not comment on whether that she would actually return

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Speaker 1: to the airwaves. Patrick, I thought they're on air blow

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Speaker 1: up was a stunt initially when I first taught it Sawa.

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Speaker 1: But wow, I mean, they're so highly paid as it is,

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Speaker 1: and they just couldn't reconcile.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing, isn't it. It's the biggest media breakup of

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Speaker 4: all time. That's two hundred million dollars they were being paid,

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Speaker 4: that sort of money, you'd probably try and work it out.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of insiders were saying it was a stunt,

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Speaker 4: or perhaps it was a stunt. Plainly it wasn't, And

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm pleased to tell you Danika. I've never listened

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Speaker 5: But this has been their behavior as far as I

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Speaker 1: as always, thank you. Is the regime desperately trying to

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Speaker 7: Well, it's certainly desperate days for them. And in Muaitaba,

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Speaker 7: Well, we can't dismiss the threat that they're there. They

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Speaker 1: Now, look, Donald Trump has said that he launched this

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 7: I think the context is that Iran has been at

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Speaker 1: No, there's a threat to the West as well to

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think they do, and I think the nature

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Speaker 7: That is, the US in Israel just largely destroyed Iran's

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Speaker 6: For example.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean maybe Donald Trump that is right

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Speaker 1: We've got to leave it there. Great to have you

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Speaker 1: Still to come left, He's losing it. Plus Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: demolishes UK Prime Minister Kiir Starmer over Iran. I'll play

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Speaker 1: it is time for lefties losing it and I have

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Speaker 1: to start on a positive note. Have a listen to

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Speaker 9: Crats are brainwashed. I don't understand how you guys can

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Speaker 9: You guys are fake humanitarians.

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Speaker 1: I may perfectly said, She's not wrong, is she? Because

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Speaker 1: the Democrats and the left have absolutely lost their marbles

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Speaker 1: And this is what freedom looks like. Have a look

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Speaker 3: Supreme Leader Atla Harmine is dead, dead dead dead dead

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Speaker 1: Atla Harmine is dead.

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Speaker 3: All harmony, he's dead.

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Speaker 1: Play that at nightclubs, absolutely love it. And look from

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Speaker 10: It's not to be Iranian people, it's not not to

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Speaker 1: And everybody had to tell a sovereign conte how they

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Speaker 1: She says, well, how about you take yourself to downtown

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they are doing exactly. Now back

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Speaker 1: After these commentsary surfaced of Nancy Pelosi where she defended

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that the president did not need authorization initially

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Speaker 1: One Libya, yes, and now have a listen to House

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Speaker 9: Back in twenty eleven, Nancy Pelosi said that then President

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Speaker 7: Now how Democrats say President Trump needs that approval to

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Speaker 2: very different than the circumstance that we face in Iran

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Speaker 2: right now. I mean, I don't even understand the genesis

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Speaker 2: or basis of that question. I suggest that you're not

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Speaker 2: asking it in good faith Libya when not actually seen months,

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Speaker 2: as I've indicated, first of all, was not in Congress

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Speaker 2: at the time, So we're dealing with what we're dealing

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Speaker 2: with right now, which is a cintash endless war.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he can't even pretend to plead ignorant when

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Speaker 1: he really and truly is as thick as two planks

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Speaker 1: of wood. I Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi has released a statement

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Speaker 1: saying she stands by Obama's decision not to seek congressional

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Speaker 1: approval on Libya. She says there is an absolute distinction

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Speaker 1: between the limited military operations in Libya and the broad

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Speaker 1: escalating war with Iran initiated by President Trump. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she's grappling as usual, grappling at straws, and is a

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Speaker 1: complete and utter embarrassment. And now it's time for derangement

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Speaker 1: gone mad. Why is it always the white liberal women

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Speaker 1: that are number one in the lunatic asylum ranks?

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Speaker 9: And literally, if you have any part to play in

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Speaker 9: the American military industrial complex.

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Speaker 1: Literally you, I hope you never make it home. I'm

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Speaker 1: so serious. So hang on a minute. She actually says,

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Speaker 1: heroic you s troops who put their lives on the

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Speaker 1: line for the country should never make it home. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these lefties do not actually value lives. But of course

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Speaker 1: they will tell you they are the most loving and

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Speaker 1: tolerant of them all. And we'll even use force when necessary,

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Speaker 1: as this guy found out. Why don't you leave America?

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Speaker 11: Why don't you leave?

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Speaker 1: You hate this imperialist country. Why don't you leave?

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Speaker 12: When Iranian women were written and murdered by their government,

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Speaker 12: none of you said.

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Speaker 1: You're fake activist? Why don't you sneak.

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Speaker 12: About the fifty thousand Iranian.

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Speaker 13: Some recute and I want to call out the fact

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Speaker 13: that you pretend, Oh, don't touch me.

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Speaker 12: Meanwhile, you're presenting me.

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Speaker 6: And I'm going to go, that's okay. You can't imprison me,

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Speaker 6: you fucking fake terrorist cosplaying children.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're absolutely crazy, aren't they. And let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: none of those cosplaying children would even have jobs. They

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Speaker 1: just hoped from one protest to another so that they

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Speaker 1: can feel so much better about themselves. And speaking of

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Speaker 1: white liberals, never underestimate their stupidity.

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Speaker 10: Saudi Arabia said to Trump on Sunday. On Sunday, sorry,

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Speaker 10: a few days ago, No way, you're not going to

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Speaker 10: use our military biass. Saudi Arabia is now against UE.

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Speaker 10: So it's Saudi Arabia guitar and Jordan, I think, and

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Speaker 10: Turkey and Egypt. I'm confused of all, but there's the

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Speaker 10: Saudi Arabia Jordan Quitar said, America, if you want to bomb.

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Speaker 1: Me Ryan, you're not going to use our VSS. That's

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Speaker 1: it finished, finished. Yep, she's got no idea, no idea,

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Speaker 1: has she And guess what we're actually confused by you

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Speaker 1: two love And speaking of confusion, CNN's Abby Phillip just

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Speaker 1: got demolished on her own show.

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Speaker 14: If bomb's dropping on the nuclear program and destroying them

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Speaker 14: last year didn't help move forward those objectives of deterring

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Speaker 14: the regime, why do we think that suddenly this is

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Speaker 14: going to do the same.

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Speaker 1: Thing because the people who weren't deterred are now dead.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Scott Jenny's does it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I give the guy a middle for bravery for even

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Speaker 1: taking pot. Now, can someone plays do a welfare check

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Speaker 1: on Nick Fuentes.

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Speaker 12: Just look at Trump and you're filled with disgust. You

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Speaker 12: look at him, He's a totally diminished figure watching him

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Speaker 12: on Friday declare this war in his sad little hat,

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Speaker 12: no tie with a black curtain. He's eighty years old.

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Speaker 12: He doesn't even care. You look at Trump and it's like,

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Speaker 12: I don't know you. I don't know who you are.

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Speaker 12: I don't know what you are. You are demonic, You

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Speaker 12: are a demonic force.

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Speaker 1: And your hands are demonic. I mean, the guy is

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Speaker 1: seriously unhinged. He claims there that Trump is a diminished figure.

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Speaker 1: The President just took out the leader of a murderous

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Speaker 1: regime in a daylight operation. That does not scream diminish

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Speaker 1: to me. It screams boss. And now here's Jasmine Crockett

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Speaker 1: with her latest crock.

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Speaker 15: Of you know what, let me tell you something. I

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Speaker 15: am here because this is truly life or death. We

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Speaker 15: have an administration that is not only killing people, but

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Speaker 15: it is a dream killer.

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Speaker 1: Right now, and to crazy Kamala Harris, who's back on

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Speaker 1: the wines, back on the gin and tonic, back on

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Speaker 1: the words salads, and back backing up illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 8: Minneapolis, just look at what we've been seeing. It's so fantastic.

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Speaker 8: People coming out with their whistles, their saff and videotaping

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Speaker 8: and you know, with perfect strangers and in aiding perfect strangers.

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Speaker 1: It's been so.

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Speaker 14: Beautiful to see.

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Speaker 8: And again this is what I mean about we have

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Speaker 8: the late inside of us.

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Speaker 1: Well, the US and UK have fallen out spectacularly over

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Speaker 1: Iran after Donald Trump absolutely demolished Pm Kiir Starmer. Have

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Speaker 1: a look at this.

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Speaker 3: This is not Winston Churchill that.

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Speaker 11: We're dealing with.

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Speaker 1: I meanwhile, Kirstarma has released this week and woke ad

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Speaker 1: on Iran talking to European leaders.

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Speaker 4: Ahde Friedrich really could to hear from you.

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Speaker 11: I think we are all concerned about what could happen

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Speaker 11: within the next couple of original dates.

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Speaker 1: We weren't involved, as we've made clear in the strikes. Oh, Emmanuel,

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel and Friedrich. I mean please joining me now? Is

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Speaker 1: Newsweek Senior editor at large Josh Hammer. Josh, good to

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Speaker 1: see you as always, Thanks for joining me. What is

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Speaker 1: it with the UK leader's obsession suddenly with saying, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not involved in the strikes. It's like, of course

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Speaker 1: you weren't. You're a spineless fool. I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: no Churchill.

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Speaker 16: No, I think that's probably the understatement of the century. Frankly,

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Speaker 16: I here Stammer. Currently his approval rating if you look

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Speaker 16: at the polls during in the UK, he's somewhere between

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Speaker 16: forty and fifty points underwater. That's not exaggeration. He is

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Speaker 16: at this point in his prime minister tenure, the least

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Speaker 16: popular prime minister in the history of modern British political polling.

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Speaker 16: It's utterly catastrophic and Labor is going to get absolutely

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Speaker 16: walloped whenever the next election, whether it's scheduled or snap election,

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Speaker 16: ends up and ends up happening. Query who will benefit

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Speaker 16: the most? Personally, I would place my own wager on

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Speaker 16: Nigel Farage and reform UK there. But no, the UK

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Speaker 16: has been in declining power for a very very long time.

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Speaker 16: By the way. That makes me upset. I'm actually an

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Speaker 16: Anglo file myself. I'm an American obviously, but I think

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Speaker 16: that I think that the Western world, the civilized world

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Speaker 16: in general, owes a huge debt of gratitude to the

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Speaker 16: British for all that they gave us. For centuries and

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Speaker 16: centuries of the English common law and various modern conceptions

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Speaker 16: of individual liberty and justice and equal protection. A lot

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Speaker 16: of this really does come from the British tradition. But

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Speaker 16: this country is just a shell. It is an absolute

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Speaker 16: shell of what it was. I mean, not even just

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Speaker 16: three four hundred years ago, but really what it was.

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Speaker 16: As Donald Trump said during World War Two, I mean,

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Speaker 16: Winston Churchill is rolling in his grave frankly looking at

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Speaker 16: here Starmer right now Starmar is now trying to do

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Speaker 16: some mop up a business. He's trying to say, Okay,

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Speaker 16: you know, maybe you can actually use our bases first

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Speaker 16: actions when it comes to Iran there. But I mean,

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Speaker 16: how stupid do you have to be to let your

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Speaker 16: country get completely overrun with jihadis, which was tragically is

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Speaker 16: increasingly what the UK has done to itself, not just

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Speaker 16: these Pakistani rape gangs, also just this harrowing anecdotal footage

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Speaker 16: of all these marches to the streets of London supporting

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Speaker 16: Hamas and this and that. They're how dumb do you

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Speaker 16: have to be to willfully subject your own count chat

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Speaker 16: and then and then to try to make some moralistic

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Speaker 16: points about how we'd enjoined the American strike on Oh wait, yeah,

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Speaker 16: the world's number one state sponsor the very jihad that

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Speaker 16: we just will lend the front door. It's just so

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Speaker 16: totally perverse. Again, as an angle of fhiol I take

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Speaker 16: no pride in it. But unfortunately it.

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Speaker 1: Is where we are well. Absolutely, and it's very clear

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Speaker 1: that all Kirstarma is doing is pandering to votes, that

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Speaker 1: that's only wants in certain sections of the community. That

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Speaker 1: is absolutely all that he wants. Now, look, I thought

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Speaker 1: that's the Secretary of State Marco Rubio, he was very

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Speaker 1: strong as well in his commentary. He's hit back at

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Speaker 1: the critics of the strikes.

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Speaker 13: Have a listen, let me explain to you guys, this

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Speaker 13: is simple English, okay. Iran is run by lunatics, religious

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Speaker 13: fanatic lunatics. They have an ambition to have nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 13: They intend to develop those nuclear weapons behind a program

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Speaker 13: of missiles and drones and terrorism that the world will

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Speaker 13: not be able to touch them for fear of those things.

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Speaker 1: And this is the weakest they've ever been. How much

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Speaker 1: pressure Josh is the administration under to explain the strikes

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Speaker 1: even though it is just so obvious, as Marco Rubio

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Speaker 1: just said, Donald Trump keeps saying Iran would have been

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Speaker 1: the one to pull the trigger first had they not intervened.

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Speaker 16: So the polling overall of the American electorate is pretty split. Actually,

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Speaker 16: just before you, un I started chatting Danika, the most

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Speaker 16: reason Paul I saw actually had literally a dead heat

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Speaker 16: fifty to fifty approved disapprove on a straight up thumbs

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Speaker 16: up thumbs down. Now, Republicans overwhelmingly support this, and by

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Speaker 16: the way, contrary to to what you hear from the

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Speaker 16: lights of Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and folks like that,

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Speaker 16: contrary to that, it's actually self identified macro Republicans who

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Speaker 16: support the strikes at a considerably even higher clip than

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Speaker 16: just normy Republicans. There So the president's base is enthusiastically

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Speaker 16: entirely behind these strikes. Democrats principally are are pretty much

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Speaker 16: lining up all their ducks in a row against it. There,

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Speaker 16: So that leaves, as is often the case, they're the

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Speaker 16: persuadable middle. So I think when you hear from administration,

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Speaker 16: when when you hear from Secretary of Rubio, when you

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Speaker 16: hear Secretary of Hegstath, when you hear from the Chairman

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Speaker 16: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Kine, first of all,

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Speaker 16: they're trying to do their jobs, right, I mean, that's

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Speaker 16: that's the most important thing. They're trying to actually fulfill

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Speaker 16: their task. The Secretary of State, Secretary of War, and

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Speaker 16: chairman of the Joint Cheese. But if there's a political

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Speaker 16: spill over there that they're really just trying to play

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Speaker 16: to the middle of the electorate. The thing though, about

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Speaker 16: Donald Trump, did he goes. I don't think he actually

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Speaker 16: particularly cares about the polling on this issue. He's been very,

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Speaker 16: very consistent on the issue of Iran for a very,

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Speaker 16: very very long time. In fact, if you look at

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Speaker 16: all the issues that Donald Trump has been outspoken about

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Speaker 16: for decades, there, from my vantage point, there is perhaps

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Speaker 16: only one issue that Donald Trump has a longer and

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Speaker 16: more consistent track record on than Iran, and that's the

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Speaker 16: issue of tariffs and trey, where he has been just

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Speaker 16: remarkably consistent for the better part of a half century.

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Speaker 16: But there's this clip circulating over the past forty eight

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Speaker 16: hours or so of Donald Trump going on a talk

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Speaker 16: show during the Tehran hostage crisis when the regime in

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Speaker 16: its infancy then storm the embassy. The US embassy there

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Speaker 16: in Tehran sees a lot of hostages for fourns or

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Speaker 16: forty four days before Ronald Reagan freed them, and Trump

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Speaker 16: back then nineteen eighty was essentially complaining that Jimmy Carter

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Speaker 16: presidency in this old cliff. He complained that they were

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Speaker 16: not using the US military to go in at and

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Speaker 16: minimum try to free American hostas, and Maximan tried to

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Speaker 16: overthrow this tyrannical regime in its then infancies. He's been

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Speaker 16: very consistent. His very first speech down the Gilded Escalator

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Speaker 16: at Trump Tower in June twenty fifteen. People remember it

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Speaker 16: for his comments about the Mexicans and the border and

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Speaker 16: all that there, and that's true, that was memorable part.

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Speaker 16: But he also had a line in that very speech,

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Speaker 16: but how Iran is a major threat, will never get

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Speaker 16: a nuclear weapon. He's been remarkably consistent there. The only

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Speaker 16: crazy part is that the Molas apparently didn't believe him,

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Speaker 16: and boyd they found out the horror way that Donald

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Speaker 16: Trump is not bluffing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. They did not suspect that this would ever come.

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Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely spot on, and I really honestly

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Speaker 1: think that if all goes to plan here, this could

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Speaker 1: be one of the best foreign policy achievements in modern history.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what Donald Trump has done here has been extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: We've got to talk about New York Mayor Zora and

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Speaker 1: mem Darmi on I just think this guy is a

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Speaker 1: real waste of space in that role. He's added his

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Speaker 1: two useless sense in he can't even say whether or

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Speaker 1: not Iran is better off with or without the Eyela.

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Speaker 11: I have a little and I've also said that while

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Speaker 11: I may be a young mayor, I am old enough

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Speaker 11: to remember the devastating consequences of our country pursuing a

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Speaker 11: war with the intent of regime change in that very

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Speaker 11: same region, not that many years ago.

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Speaker 1: He is dangerous. He is a typical socialist Josh. The

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Speaker 1: Eyetola is responsible for the debts of hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: of people, and this guy can't even give a straight answer.

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Speaker 16: So let's not forget that Zoramdani was actually found and

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Speaker 16: we owe some credit here to a normalization called memory

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Speaker 16: the Middle East Middle East Media Research Institute, they actually

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Speaker 16: uncovered this footage Zormamdani speaking on the very first day

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Speaker 16: of Ramadan at an Iranian regime linked mosque, a mask

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Speaker 16: that's actually on all of the FBI watch list because

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Speaker 16: it's connected to various Iranian regime front groups. The United

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Speaker 16: States or Mam Donnie chose that mosque in New York

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Speaker 16: City to speak at on the very first Day of

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Speaker 16: Ramadan that was literally just a week week and a

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Speaker 16: half ago, give give or take. This is a guy

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Speaker 16: who was the founder when he was in college up

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Speaker 16: in Maine. He was the founder of his so called

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Speaker 16: Students Were Justice in Palestine chapter, otherwise known as s JP.

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Speaker 16: S JAP is deeply connected to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Speaker 16: It's essentially a Muslim Brotherhood front group organization here also

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Speaker 16: has some ties to the Chinese Communist Party. Ma'am, Donnie's

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Speaker 16: a lunatic. Yeah, he's very glib. He's smooth talking, he's

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Speaker 16: good looking, he knows how to string a sense together.

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Speaker 16: He's basically Barack Obama two point zero, except he's actually

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Speaker 16: substantially more dangerous. And Barack Obama was pretty dangerous, but

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Speaker 16: Zormamdani's actually much more dangerous, potentially, God forbid if he

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Speaker 16: gets higher than his current already pretty high perch there.

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Speaker 16: Because he is the singular encapsulation of what I referred

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Speaker 16: to and many others referred to as the red green alliance,

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Speaker 16: of this deeply unholy alliance of convenience between the Marxists

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Speaker 16: on the one hand and the Islamus on the other.

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Speaker 16: He is absolutely a Marxist is a guy who has

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Speaker 16: quoted Carl Marx his Communist Manifesto to each accurtant their need.

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Speaker 16: He literally, you go to his Twitter feed, he's living

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Speaker 16: quoting the Commis Manifesto for years. There. He also has

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Speaker 16: sympathy to the Iranian regime, as you correctly know, and

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Speaker 16: to various other radical Islamis factions. There a guy who

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Speaker 16: couldn't condemn or or even bring himself to dis him

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Speaker 16: himself from the genocidal calls to globalize the into fada.

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Speaker 16: He only withdrew from endorsing that phrase under immense, immense pressure,

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Speaker 16: and he did so basically halfway through his mayoral campaign.

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Speaker 16: So the guy is a subversive fifth column frankly in

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Speaker 16: my view, and tragically he's been elected to lead the

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Speaker 16: nation's most important city. There the only silver line I

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Speaker 16: have Denika is One of my favorite quotes is this

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Speaker 16: notion from hl mank in the twentieth century newspaper columnists

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Speaker 16: that democracies Democracy is the theory that the people know

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Speaker 16: what they want to the compul and know what they want,

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Speaker 16: then they deserve to get it good and hard, and

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Speaker 16: they're getting it good and hard. In New York hopefully

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Speaker 16: they wake up sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you certainly hypees and let's not forget man

725
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Speaker 1: Zori mm Dami was a rapper, a singer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had a list of olda's different random jobs, and

727
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Speaker 1: then suddenly he gets this epiphany that he wants to

728
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Speaker 1: become mayor and everything was meant to be free, and

729
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Speaker 1: suddenly he's, you know, an expert in foreign policy as

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Speaker 1: well as just extraordinary. Now, look, Donald Trump has threatened

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Speaker 1: to cut off trade with Spain, so he came out

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Speaker 1: today he accused the NATO ally of failing to meet

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Speaker 1: defense spending commitments and refusing to allow US forces to

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Speaker 1: use Spanish bases to support operations related to strikes against Iran.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he'll make good on this, on this threat, Josh,

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Speaker 1: what impact could this have?

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Speaker 16: Well, he definitely might. Look this is this administration takes

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Speaker 16: a fairly skeptical approach towards towards Western Europe. I think

739
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Speaker 16: that's been pretty clear. We opened our conversation talking about

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Speaker 16: Cure Starmer and Donald Trump's very harsh words for a

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Speaker 16: cure Starmer. He's Trump's had very harsh words when it

742
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Speaker 16: comes at times to Emmanuel Macrone in France as well

743
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Speaker 16: there and and Spain is currently led by but by

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Speaker 16: a zealous left winger, a guy who was sent who

745
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Speaker 16: was accused Israel of genocide there, who is not particularly

746
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Speaker 16: things to say about the United States and various other

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Speaker 16: Western powers in general there. So no, I think it

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Speaker 16: is absolutely not past Donald Trump to try to impose crippling,

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Speaker 16: potentially terri of sanctions. Who knows. I don't think he

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Speaker 16: particularly cares. Frankly, this pain is is in NATO. Why,

751
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Speaker 16: Because the United States is the ultimately guarantor of NEO.

752
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Speaker 16: The United States is the ultimate guarantor of essentially all

753
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Speaker 16: of these invariably semi effectless to fall on feckless Western

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Speaker 16: transnational institutions. There, the United States is the only reason

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Speaker 16: that NATO still exists, that the Nine Nations still exists,

756
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Speaker 16: that all these various organizations still exists there. So that's

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Speaker 16: that's kind of besides the points. And you know, really

758
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Speaker 16: the administration's approach towards Europe, which we saw, probably adds

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Speaker 16: apex we saw with these with these two Munich Security

760
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Speaker 16: Conference speeches last year from the Vice President jad Evance

761
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Speaker 16: this year from Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, where

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Speaker 16: they both take a very skeptical approach toward towards Europe.

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Speaker 16: The way to view this is that America is trying

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Speaker 16: to bring Europe back to its glory. America wants Europe

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Speaker 16: to be what it was in the not so distant past.

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Speaker 16: It's pretty ironic, isn't it, that, in the aftermath of

767
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Speaker 16: the joint US is really campaign against the Irani regime

768
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Speaker 16: that pretty much all the various Arab countries in the region,

769
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Speaker 16: Saudi Arabia, Yui, Bahrain, Kuwaits, even Katari, Iran's erstwhile ally

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Speaker 16: they all came out in support of the of the

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Speaker 16: United States and Israel, and it was the UK and

772
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Speaker 16: France above all that were equivocating. Germany was initiallyquivted, came

773
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Speaker 16: they seemed to have essentially gotten in line. But that's

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Speaker 16: a very strange state of affairs, isn't it. Right, Where

775
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Speaker 16: there's this military campaign against this Muslim country and the

776
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Speaker 16: Muslim world is much more supportive than Western Europe. That's

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Speaker 16: not the way it should be there, And I think

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Speaker 16: that's ultimately really kind of deep down what's animating this

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Speaker 16: standoup between the US and Spain as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, absolutely. And let's not forget I mean, Donald

781
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Speaker 1: Trump's pushed other countries as well well, if they'd defense

782
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Speaker 1: spending that he was even pushing for Australia too. So look,

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Speaker 1: I'll be very interested to see what happens here. Josh

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Speaker 1: hammert nice to catch up with you. Thanks very much

785
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Speaker 1: for joining me on the show. Still to come another day,

786
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Speaker 1: another blow for Australia renewables only experiment. Ian Plymer is

787
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Speaker 1: next on the latest green company to slash its workforce.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, well. Energy Minister Chris Bowen has tried to

789
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Speaker 1: reassure us that he's got everything under control amid predictions

790
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Speaker 1: that petrol prices will soar by more than forty cents

791
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Speaker 1: per liter in the coming days. Here, he was there

792
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Speaker 1: is no.

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Speaker 17: Need to rush to the service station and fill up.

794
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Speaker 17: I do understand people's concerns, but it's important that people

795
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Speaker 17: know we do have a good stock of petrol in

796
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Speaker 17: reserve in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is esteemed geologist and author professor Ian Plymer.

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Speaker 1: Ian great to see you again, so Bowen says, no, Look,

799
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Speaker 1: it's fine, no worries, nothing to see here. So I

800
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Speaker 1: guess we can all take a breath.

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess we have to be really worried about you,

802
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 6: and I'm still waiting for a two hundred and seventy

803
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Speaker 6: five dollars. I've seen what a mess that he's made

804
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 6: with our power system, and if he's going to make

805
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 6: anything equivalent to that powers is the mess, then we're

806
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Speaker 6: going to be out of fuel now. We need diesel.

807
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Speaker 6: We need diesel more than petrol. We needed to plow,

808
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 6: we needed to seed, we need to weed, we needed

809
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 6: to harvest. We needed to transport food to the cities.

810
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Speaker 6: Once the food is in the cities, we've got to

811
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Speaker 6: transport it around using diesel. He doesn't seem to understand

812
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Speaker 6: that this whole country runs on diesel. He's talking about petrol.

813
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Speaker 6: He's absolutely clueless. He's completely destroyed our energy system in

814
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Speaker 6: this country, and he's now starting to think, well, maybe

815
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Speaker 6: we should be destroying the PETROLLIU ministry. The only solution

816
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 6: is what the French did in nineteen seventy three when

817
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 6: there was a petroleum crisis, and that is to build

818
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Speaker 6: nuclear power stations. This is why France is a nuclear

819
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Speaker 6: power country. This is what we should be doing in

820
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Speaker 6: this country. We should be drilling for our own oil.

821
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Speaker 6: We should be converting coal into petroleum products, as Germany

822
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Speaker 6: did in the Second World War, as South Africa did

823
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Speaker 6: when they were embargos. There is the technology out there.

824
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Speaker 6: We are prepared for absolutely nothing in this country.

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Speaker 1: No we aren't. So just like the renewables only facade

826
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Speaker 1: that we're on now as well, he's got no one

827
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Speaker 1: idea about the petroleum industry. We're in really great hands

828
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Speaker 1: and rain hands now. Look. A fascinating report in The

829
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Speaker 1: Australian has shed light on the disturbing environmental impacts of

830
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Speaker 1: the killing fields that are wind farm projects. Researched by

831
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Speaker 1: Cans based conservation group Rainforest Reserves Australia has found that

832
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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of hectares of native forest and woodland

833
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Speaker 1: of high biodiversity value are set to be affected by

834
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Speaker 1: more than twelve hundred proposed renewable energy projects. So we're

835
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Speaker 1: talking forests being cleared, Mountains are being blown up and flattened,

836
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Speaker 1: all to make way for these monstrosities, some of which

837
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: are two hundred and fifty meet as tall. Of course,

838
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Speaker 1: there's you know the damage well to birds, You've got

839
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Speaker 1: these dead bats and bird life is also been found

840
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Speaker 1: at the basis of these towers ian. But this is

841
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Speaker 1: not what the left wants you to see or know,

842
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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 6: Well, certainly not. Why is it that the renewable industry

844
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Speaker 6: can get away with this? Yet if I'm a farmer

845
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Speaker 6: or a miner or trying to clear some land for

846
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Speaker 6: a factory, that I would get fined and go to

847
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Speaker 6: jail for doing what these renewable companies have done. Now,

848
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Speaker 6: to make it worse, these renewable companies are owned by

849
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Speaker 6: foreign interests. And to make it even worse, that the

850
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Speaker 6: hardware that we need for wind and for solar comes

851
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Speaker 6: from China. So we are taking probably the most environmentally

852
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 6: damaging steps we've ever taken in this country. And where

853
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 6: is the left. We hear absolutely nothing out of them

854
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 6: about them. Where are the greens, We don't hear anything

855
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 6: from them. So this is absolute whole scale destruction of

856
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Speaker 6: the environment, and we hear nothing. Apparently by using Chinese

857
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 6: solar and wind equipment that is for the greater good,

858
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 6: and therefore we can destroy the environment. You could not

859
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Speaker 6: do this as a farmer. Why can you do it

860
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Speaker 6: for someone that's producing very expensive electricity for the average consumer.

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00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: Exactly, and one that is based on a risk because

862
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: we don't know if it's even going to work. That's

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Speaker 1: the problem. And now look one of Australia's top renewables developers,

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Speaker 1: this is a Conia Energy, has cut about fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: of its Australian green energy workforce as planning bottlenecks and

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Speaker 1: rising costs continue to stifle investment in the sector. Ian

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Speaker 1: here we go again, more job cuts.

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Speaker 6: What does this suggest, Well, it suggests that ever since

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Speaker 6: the renewables fashion started, we've been told lies. We've been

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Speaker 6: told that this was going to create jobs. It's been

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Speaker 6: the exact opposite. And what we've done is we've lost jobs.

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Speaker 6: We've lost jobs in the coal industry, we've lost jobs

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Speaker 6: in the manufacturing industry. So what we're being told is

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Speaker 6: the exact opposite of reality. Now we should have known this.

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Speaker 6: We've seen it happen in Germany. We've seen it happen

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Speaker 6: in the US, we've seen it happen in the UK.

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Speaker 6: If you want to go renewables, you are going to

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Speaker 6: lose jobs. And to prop up renewables you need gas.

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Speaker 6: Now this goes completely against the ideology which we're being told.

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Speaker 6: But nevertheless we get thrown these lives all the time,

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Speaker 6: and we're meant to lie down and take it. I

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Speaker 6: think enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more now, Look, Australia's biggest data center operators

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Speaker 1: have more than doubled their reported carbon emissions over the

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Speaker 1: past five years as artificial intelligence continues to see more

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Speaker 1: and more investment. Gee, don't tell Chris Bowl on that one,

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Speaker 1: but is this just the reality of AI.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you think carbon emissions are harmful, then you

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Speaker 6: should make these II centers nuclear. If you think they're

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Speaker 6: not harmful, that it's plant food and that we're feeding

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Speaker 6: the environment, then we should be emitting carbon into the atmosphere.

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Speaker 6: So for Chris Bone, it's a lose lose situation, and

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Speaker 6: one day he will find that we need AI to

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Speaker 6: run this country. One day we'll find that we need

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Speaker 6: huge amounts of power which sea breezes and sunbeams can't

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Speaker 6: give us, and we're going to have to have power

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Speaker 6: with grunt. It's either going to be nuclear, or it's

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Speaker 6: going to be gas, or it's going to be cold.

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Speaker 6: But it's not going to be wind and it's not

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Speaker 6: going to be solar. And that we know from data

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Speaker 6: centers elsewhere in the world. So I think he's got

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Speaker 6: to get out of the cocoon and start to get

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Speaker 6: some sort of realistic energy program for Australia. Meanwhile, we

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Speaker 6: wither on the vine.

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Speaker 1: Look, we can only hope that one day he might

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Speaker 1: wake up and realize the sort of magical, mystical carpet

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Speaker 1: ride that we're on. Ian PLYMUK, good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much for your time, appreciate it. That's it

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Speaker 1: for me. Coming up next is News Nights, good Night,