1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the fitz and with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: Is your relationship stuck in a rut at the moment? 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: A relationship expert has listed the three red flags that 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: prove that your relationship is doomed. This is Professor Suzanne Degsteggsy. 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: She's a couple's therapist and she's listed the three flags. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Can we play a bit of a game? You got 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: some music for me there? Just that we can get into. 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: This is fun. 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: I mean this is assuming that people are into red flags. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: I mean some people see a red flag can go oh, 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: this is right up by Ali. I feel like a 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: bit of hell this year. 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: What a dozens have to say? Man, oh that's not bad. 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: Here we go, okay. 15 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: The first one is if you live with your partner 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: but you subconsciously delay going home to them. 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: I thought that was normal. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Well tick for on this one. No, I know, I'm not. 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: We're all sat in the car out the. 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: Front, no y where we have I come on, Kate cues, 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: I don't get as far as the car out. I 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: just don't leave the. 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Offer or that's the big one that they said. 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: If you delay leaving work, Kate and you stick around 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: for a bit longer, or you find excuses with nights 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: out with friends, your relationships termed. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 4: Oh god, okay? Is that just the one red flag? 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 4: Is that it is that like one of them. 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: No second sign is not responding to texts. This is 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: a big one. I'm a big I like to. 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: Get back to text messages pretty quickly, and I've always 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: been really good with my wife. I just I'm not 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: a big fan of people who take ages to respond. 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: I think it's rude. 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: Mate, You couldn't brought up a more important point. I 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: think it's unbelievably rude. And to know that I sit 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: alongside someone who is famous for being a bad communicator, 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: not a message whip. 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: You're not an angel here? 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 41 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: And also my husband. 42 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's a lot of sexual strad. 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 5: What oh if that's if you think that what is 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 5: going on here is sexual chemistry, you need to go 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,559 Speaker 5: to a head doctor. 46 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: And have yourself. 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: But I am pretty bad, FITZI I am, and I 48 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: and I have been criticized about this. Terrible in relationships 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: as well. Like one of my most common texts that 50 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: I receive is. 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Are you alive? 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 53 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: And you die today? 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: Question mark, question mark, question mark. 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: Do you know the number of a good head doctors. Okay, 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: so that's your second sign. The third red flag is 57 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: based around the future. Suzanne Eggsy's revealed that feelings of 58 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: positivity and hopefulness about the future should be high on 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: the relationship agender, rather than regrets about what you could 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: have been one massively, I could have I could have 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: kicked more goals, I could have done this to be 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: stuck here with you? 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: What if I'd married Jenny. 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna be a hero. 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: I was going to be that guy, gonna gonna those 66 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: people I would have should have gonna gonna. 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: That is a big one. There are moments, don't get 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: me wrong. 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: There are moments where we we you know, we look 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 2: at each other and smile about the future, like when 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: the kids move out at home. 72 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: That's a big one. 73 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: But you don't You don't sit there with your partner 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: and think or even say out aloud. You don't sit 75 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: there and think, oh, gee, I wish i'd married that person. 76 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: I think sometimes. 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: I think I would have been far better off. Do 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: you know who? You know who does that? People that's 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: settled in relationships where they went you know what, I 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: may as well end up with them because there's nothing 81 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: else out there. 82 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: But I don't think that people justly set They do 83 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: not all the time. 84 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: I think all the time. 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: I think people can settle, but I don't think when 86 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: they're settling that they know it's settling. It just feels someway, 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: it feels safe. But I disagree. I think there are 88 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: people sitting in their laund rooms or maybe even at 89 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: the dinner table if they're not eating at the coffee 90 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: table in front of the TV, and they stare at 91 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: each other across their curried sausages and they hate. 92 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: They hate each other. 93 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, courage sausages. 94 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: That's not the point of the story, the carriage sausages. 95 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you're eating courage sausages with someone 96 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: you hate, things could. 97 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: Be worse, really, and your breath's going to smell too, 98 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: But it's not a threat because you're not going anywhere 99 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: near them. Imagine getting into bed with someone and they 100 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: just roll over and don't even give you a kiss 101 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: good night or say I love your. 102 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: Oh people, that's happening all over the country. 103 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: There's a there's a real separation going on at the moment, 104 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: isn't there truckloads of couples still coming out at the 105 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 4: back of COVID. They want more. 106 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: It's the modern relationship, mate, you can imagine. Marriage counselors 107 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: are just on fire. 108 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: I grew up with a girl who I've known for 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: a very long time, and I bumped into her the 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: other day. 111 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: Well, if you grew up with it, well, if you 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: grew up with it, you obviously have known her for all. 113 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she is like a very popular divorce lawyer. 114 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: I don't even know what are they? Family lawyer? Is 115 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 4: that what you call a divorce anyway? 116 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: She does mean popular, you mean busy, busy, flatmacker. 117 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: And you know what happens. Couples realize that they're going 118 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: down that path. They both know that she's the best 119 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: in town as well, and they race to get their 120 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 4: first before the other one does so. 121 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: Then you say, sorry, you can't use her. 122 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: I've gone with that person. She's representing me. 123 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Are you getting it? 124 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: Are you getting satisfaction when you look at your bank 125 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: account every day? 126 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 4: Though? 127 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Are you getting satisfaction when you're representing people who are 128 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: going through such a Do. 129 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 4: You know what she said too? She said, the first 130 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 4: thing I tell people if they come to me is 131 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: to get off the grog, Get off grog, get off 132 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: any drugs, get off any bad substances that you might take, 133 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: so you can be clear. So you can be clear, 134 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: because what happens is if that person wants to say, well, 135 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: hang on a minute, he's a bad parent, he abuses substances, Well, 136 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: then they have the right to request a drug test, 137 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: which can be done via a hair strand. So you 138 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: send off a strand of your hair, so if you're 139 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: clear from the moment you go there for that. 140 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: Divorce, How am I going to send off your strand? 141 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: A short and curly mate. 142 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: I'm not going to have to come for you from you? 143 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: Can I ask? Can they use one of those heirs 144 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: to test you? Of course, well, I would imagine. 145 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: So I think it's very sad that she's advising people 146 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: to stay off alcohol and band substances or legal substances 147 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: purely so that they don't get in trouble with their partner, 148 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: rather than that it's probably best for everyone involved, including 149 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: the chike. 150 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: Well, I mean a probably well said cod and best 151 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: thing said all day all year, not that it won't 152 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 4: be for the rest of the year. That could be better. 153 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: We don't know. But that's what she said, and it's 154 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: like people are racing to her. She's never been busier. 155 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: What right, what proper races? But there's a start line 156 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: in that. 157 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: And they go bank, go get a get. 158 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 5: I Got a. 159 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: Fitzen Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk 160 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: great shows like this. Download the Nova Player by the 161 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: app Store or Google playing the