1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: You can listen to the Front on your smart sneaker 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: every morning to hear the latest episode, Just say play 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: the news from the Australian. From the Australian, here's what's 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: on the Front. I'm Claire Harvey. It's Thursday, July eighteen. 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Australia is accepting Israel's explanation for the airstrike that killed 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: aid worker Zomi Frankom in Gaza. FRANKLM and your colleagues 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: from the World Central Kitchen charity died instantly on April 8 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: one in what the Israeli Defense Force said was a 9 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: tragic accident. The Albanese government sent former Defense chief Mark 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Binskin to investigate the deaths, and today The Australian reveals 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Binskin will recommend new protocols for international aid organizations working 12 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: in war zones. The Greens want Labor to overrule the 13 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: Reserve Bank of Australia if it tries to hike interest 14 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: rates again. That story is part of the Australian series 15 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: on the Small Party with Big Ambitions, and it's live 16 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: now at the Australian dot com dot au. If you 17 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: live in the Bush, you're probably listening to the Front 18 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: via satellite like Elon Musk's Starlink network, which has become 19 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: a crucial part of Australia's food belt. In today's episode, 20 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: we'll dive into the big issues for the Bush, including 21 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: patchy internet and why you might be eating mince for 22 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: dinner tonight. I'm willing to bet you're cooking dinner at 23 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: home much more often these days, and I reckon you've 24 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: cut back on takeaway coffee times are tight and at 25 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: the supermarket we're buying stuff in tins and stuff on special. 26 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: But here's the twist, many Australians are also buying more 27 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: expensive supermarket products. Here's Cole's chief commercial officer and A Croft. 28 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: Definitely a trendom frozen in bulk as customers become ready 29 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: savy around how they shop. 30 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Croft is speaking at the Australians Global Food Forum, a 31 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: gathering of farmers, manufacturers, retailers and investors we hold every year. 32 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: But we are seeing customers trading into the premium tes 33 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: so there's nodar as customers are eating more at home 34 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: that premium section across lots of our brands coming through 35 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: and with seeing that and our calls fine us up 36 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: kind of twenty percent. 37 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: At the independent supermarket chain IgA Richies. They call it 38 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: the mincemeat Index. 39 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: We're finding out mid sales beef min's chicken mince is 40 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: through the roof, and that's an indication that people are 41 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: trading down, perhaps from a steak and instead buying the 42 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: cheaper cuts of meat. 43 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: This is the boss of Ida Richies, Fred Harrison. He's 44 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: talking at the food to our retail reporter Eli greenblat 45 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: but I don't. 46 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: Think people are making a lovely specific meal five nights 47 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: a week. I think people are making big batches of food. 48 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: We know now our pasta sales are through the roof, 49 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: and the ingredients are going the pasta sources, et cetera, 50 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: And people are making big batches and might put in 51 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: the fridge or the freezer and use that two or 52 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: three times through the week. 53 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: And that twist again. We're buying a nicer kind of mints. 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: It is a little bit more of the premium intwo, 55 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: not just the cheapest means some of the premium minss. 56 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,559 Speaker 3: But that category is going strengths to strength. 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: So we're shopping more. But we are not loving the 58 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: supermarkets right now. Allegations of price gouging and excessive market 59 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: power have coals and woolies under pressure, but the retailers 60 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: are suffering with the cost of living too, as manufacturers 61 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: push up prices and the cost of fuel and energy 62 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: saws and so are suppliers. Jeff Kennett is the former 63 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: Premier of Victoria and now chair of the original Juice Company. 64 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: Right now, the public are looking around more than ever 65 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: before for value, and that's tough on all the supermarkets, 66 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: small and large. But there is a point which the 67 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: public says, I'm not going to pay more than this 68 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: price for a liter and a half of juice. So 69 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: we're getting squeezed. One end. The public understandably is squeezing, 70 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: as is the end, and I'm drinking more whiskey. 71 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: Here's a little example from IgA Richie's Fred Harrison says 72 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: on July one, twenty three, the company's costs in Victoria 73 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: rose by four million dollars in government charges overnight. That 74 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: was an increase in payroll tax, a mental health levy, 75 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: and work cover. That's just one. 76 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: State governments are screwing the private sector. They're screwing them. 77 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: Why is it always the poor bloody supermarkets for actually 78 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: delivering the farmer's product, employing the people paying the taxes 79 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 4: and charges who have been whipped to death. 80 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: And here's another challenge staff. 81 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: We're finding people want to come in and perhaps work 82 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: in the store, but they don't want any responsibility, so 83 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 3: to get management, whether it be store management or deli 84 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: managers or produce managers. I just want to come in 85 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: work nine to five, had no hassles, don't want to 86 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: take on responsibility. Getting leaders is one of the biggest 87 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: problems in Australia at the moment. 88 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: And they want to serve in a supermarket from home, 89 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 4: don't they thank you? 90 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Supermarkets are so unpopular right now that there's a strange 91 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: double act the Coalition and the Greens both want the 92 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: power to force the powerful duopoly Coals and Woolies to 93 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: break up. It sounds good, right, more owners, more competition, 94 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: hopefully lower prices and better deals for workers and suppliers. 95 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: But and across from Coal's totally like she doesn't think 96 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: it would work. 97 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: We're run eight hundred and fifty super markets across office 98 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: see their whole national footprints, and I think we have 99 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: a very large fixed cost base. And if that was 100 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty supermarkets, it actually wouldn't make a 101 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: meaningful difference to our cost base, and therefore it would 102 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: really impede our ability to fractionalize those costs across our 103 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: business and to drive greater efficiency, and therefore, as a 104 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: result of that that could or may lead higher prices 105 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: for customers. 106 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: Ida Richies has a different take. Asked if they could 107 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: buy supermarkets in say, regional Queensland if Coals or Woolies 108 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: was forced to sell them off. Fred Harrison said this. 109 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: Look in the instance of Richie's, we probably could. However, 110 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: it's not quite as simple as the government saying you've 111 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: got to offload one hundred stores or slow these landlords involved, 112 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: and landlords have made decisions and borrowed money and have 113 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: commitments and cap rates that are important to them, and 114 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: a lot of these Coals Wooly stores pay significant rents 115 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: that independents are necessarily in a position to mat set rent. 116 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: Fred Harrison poses another solution, draw a line in the 117 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: sand and accept the deewopoly as it is for the moment, 118 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: but then plan for a future which gives shoppers more options. 119 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: In other words, instead of having Woolish Coals on every 120 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: second or third street corner, what we could possibly do 121 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: before a new site is approved, whether it be a 122 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: greenfield site or an acquisition, is to a competition test 123 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: and say, okay, in that market a five kilometer radius, 124 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: say a metro, how many woolies or coals are there 125 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: there now? And is there an independent or good independent 126 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: in that area or an only I think the more 127 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: independence to get out there, the better it's going to 128 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: be for competition in the long run. 129 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: After the break, why frustrated farmers have turned to Elon 130 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: Musk's Space program to get reliable internet. The Global Food Forum, 131 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: sponsored by Visi, is part of how the Australian gets 132 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: into the contest of ideas from the city to the sticks. 133 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Check us out at the Australian dot com dot au 134 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: and we'll be back after this break. Starlink, if you've 135 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: heard of it, you might know this is one of 136 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: the businesses owned by the world's richest man, Elon Musk. 137 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: It's probably the business rather than Tesla or Twitter that 138 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: makes Masks so influential. Starlink is a satellite internet provider 139 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: fired by Masks SpaceX rockets. 140 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: One confession and with a pad that go free back 141 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: so it. 142 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Mask's big innovation was to create reusable rockets which can 143 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: launch into space, set satellites into a low orbit, and 144 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: then return to Earth to be deployed all over again. 145 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: On the grim battlefields of Ukraine, Russian and Ukrainian soldiers 146 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: alike are buying Starlink boxes so vacant connect to the world, 147 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: and in the Australian Bush, anyone who wants reliable Internet 148 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: is also buying a starlink box. They are about three 149 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty dollars and then you pay around one 150 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: hundred and forty dollars a month to connect. Starlink says 151 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: it has more than two hundred thousand customers in Australia. 152 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: We've had Starlink for quite a while. I still have 153 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 5: my Mbian Skymaster. I'm big on having a bit of 154 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 5: security and redundancy. 155 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: This is Georgie Somerset. She's a farmer and a grazier 156 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: and she's one of those powerful country women who was 157 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: turned speaking up for the bush into her lifetime's calling. 158 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: But our businesses have become very reliant on being connected. 159 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 5: So it's not a it'd be nice to have mobile coverage. 160 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: It's actually we rely on it for telemetry and observations 161 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 5: and things like that now. And when we we saw 162 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: one of the satellites failed last year, that's directing our tractors. 163 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 5: That's our data and our planting and our harvesting data, 164 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: you know. So we're this is not a nice to have, 165 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 5: it's a actual business operations one I one to have 166 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: connectivity now. 167 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: She's on the board of the ABC, a director of 168 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: the National Farmers Federation and the general president of ag 169 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Force Queensland. For many farmers, local internet providers just aren't 170 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: cutting it. Sales of the NBN satellite services have been 171 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: in rapid decline, the number of connections falling almost twenty 172 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: percent in the first quarter of this year alone. Starlink 173 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: says it delivers between one hundred and two hundred and 174 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: fifty megabits of download per second across Australia. That's up 175 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: to twice as fast as four G. While Georgie's keeping 176 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: her Skymaster service, many others are not. It's not just 177 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: connecting to the internet, which is fraught. Some regional areas 178 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: could lose their phone in coming months. Telstra will shut 179 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: down their three G services, also known as their next 180 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: G networks, in August. Optus isn't far behind with their 181 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: three G networks to shut down in September. While most 182 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: of Australia moved off the three G network to four 183 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: G and five G long ago, some regional areas still 184 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: don't receive those signals. For some this goes beyond being 185 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: able to make a phone call or send a text. 186 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: Older automated farming equipment which uses the three G network 187 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: will also become obsolete. Georgie Somerset says the cost of 188 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: living crisis in the Bush is a little different. 189 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 5: And I think it's interesting when you hear that they 190 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 5: talk about sort of twenty percent of people are chasing 191 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 5: the specials. You often don't have that privilege of chasing 192 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: the specials when you only go into town once every 193 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 5: couple of weeks. 194 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: Are you seeing changes in the ability of families to 195 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: remain on the land, to remain producing food. 196 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 5: I'm not saying a diminution of that at the moment, 197 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 5: but what I think will see is probably more families 198 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 5: doing the labor, so less labor units required, which then 199 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 5: can have a flow through in rural communities, and when 200 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 5: those families go, it has a flow on to schools 201 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: and things like that as well. It's a tricky Conundrum, an. 202 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: Artwork by the Australians cartoonist Johannes Leek, has prompted Green 203 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: senator at Marine Feruki to threaten legal action. To see 204 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: the cartoon and read Why Feruki is Upset, join ours 205 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: subscribers at the Australian dot com do AU