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<v Speaker 1>If I'm going to find Alan's missing forty nine million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to understand more about the man himself. Had

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<v Speaker 1>he done something like his safe World scheme before? Who

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<v Speaker 1>was he, what was he like and how did he

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<v Speaker 1>get his start? Looking into someone's past is a tricky undertaking,

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm about to learn, and I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what I was in for and how far back. Unraveling

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<v Speaker 1>the mystery of Alan Metcalf goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Inn.

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<v Speaker 3>He killed me A nine sixty nine and a car accent.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary Avis. Gary might be eighty years old now,

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<v Speaker 1>but he remembers it all vividly, the dirt road where

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<v Speaker 1>he and his then colleague Alan Metcalf should have died.

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<v Speaker 1>We're speaking over the phone, so it's not a great recording.

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<v Speaker 3>We told him at least four times to stop the

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<v Speaker 3>car or we're going to get out of the car,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's when he rolled up. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fun rolling a car in the middle central

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<v Speaker 3>Australia with nobody around in two hundred CA's from the

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<v Speaker 3>nearest down.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think you were going to die in that moment?

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't that time to think a bloody thing? Roll five times?

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<v Speaker 3>Had ended up on its roof.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan and Gary were working together as life insurance salesman

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<v Speaker 1>at amp in Mount Isa in Queensland's northwest Outback, a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny Australian town even tinier back then. The cause of

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<v Speaker 1>the accident was simple. Alan was in his early twenties

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<v Speaker 1>and he was starting to make some serious money. Recently,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd bought a new car. His little Volkswagen Beetle was

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<v Speaker 1>upgraded to a VIP Valiant.

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<v Speaker 3>Also doing Alan, This car's too powerful for the speed

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<v Speaker 3>you were doing. You've never had a big car like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan was newly married to Mary. The young husband was

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<v Speaker 1>in a rush because he'd promised his wife he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>home in time for dinner. We should have died, but

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't. In fact, Alan Metcalf was just getting started.

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<v Speaker 1>He was about to launch his earliest recorded scale, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be his last. I'm Alex Turner Cohen, a

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<v Speaker 1>finance and investigative reporter from newstock com do AU, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to The Missing forty nine Million. This is

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<v Speaker 1>episode two genesis. Alan and Gary were down that lonely

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<v Speaker 1>road visiting a client. The papers in their work briefcase

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<v Speaker 1>went flying everywhere. After the crash, glass shattered all over them.

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<v Speaker 1>They tried to set the car on fire, the only

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<v Speaker 1>way they could think to draw attention as the desert

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<v Speaker 1>darkened around them. But Gary said it was the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>thing he'd ever attempted to do, and eventually he and

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<v Speaker 1>Alan just gave up. It took three hours for another

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<v Speaker 1>car to find them, and the police drove them home

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<v Speaker 1>to Mount Isa. They kept working at amp, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be the last time Gary crosspaths with Alan metcalf

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<v Speaker 1>or her his name around town for all the wrong reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Mount Oz is a raw town, a rough town. Most

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<v Speaker 3>of the pubs had a bearfisted fighting champion. It was

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<v Speaker 3>an exciting town to be in as a young black,

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<v Speaker 3>and people were making a lot of money, serious money.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean five hundred and eighty bucks a week in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty six is a lot of money. Allan was

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<v Speaker 3>caught up in that sort of hype.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary's right, it was a lot of money like making

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand dollars a week in today's world. In Allan's

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<v Speaker 1>own words from a video uploaded to vimeo discussing his past, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Said Mount Isaza was an interesting place because there was

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<v Speaker 4>great job opportunities.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what attracted people, and there was good money to

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<v Speaker 5>be made in Mount Isa.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan grew up in Cannes, in Queensland's tropical north, but

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<v Speaker 1>he moved to Mount Isa for a mining job and

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<v Speaker 1>married Mary in nineteen sixty five. He was around nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old and she was about seventy. He became a

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<v Speaker 1>salesman at AMP shortly after, which is how Gary Avis

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<v Speaker 1>met him. Years later he'd be peddling the safe Worth product,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he was selling life insurance and he was

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<v Speaker 1>really good at his job, too good. In a eulogy,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary had this to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Just before he turned twenty one, he was approached by

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<v Speaker 6>the AMP Society and he became Australasia's top salesman. Three

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<v Speaker 6>years in a row. He broke all sales records, which

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<v Speaker 6>he held for over a decade or even longer. Keep

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<v Speaker 6>in mind that mat iSER had a population of twenty

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<v Speaker 6>five thousand people, and yet he still beat all these records,

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<v Speaker 6>writing in excess of seven and a half million dollars

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<v Speaker 6>in whole of life policies.

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<v Speaker 1>But Gary doesn't see how he never impressed me.

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<v Speaker 3>He was nowhere near the top sales in Australia got

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<v Speaker 3>nowhere near he wouldn't be in the top fifty. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I know what he did. He probably signed up

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<v Speaker 3>what they call temstans, these people that don't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially he was selling insurance to dead people and

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<v Speaker 1>he was pocketing a hefty commission in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>So like he probably got to check out to Highlight,

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<v Speaker 3>or he may not.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone else who knew Alan, who preferred to remain anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>explain to me how it works. We're using a voice actor,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are his words.

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<v Speaker 2>You would go to a local cemetery, a Nudge cemetery

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<v Speaker 2>or pick a cemetery, and you'd literally write the person's

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<v Speaker 2>name down. And back in those days, the insurance companies

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<v Speaker 2>would pay like two or three years commission to the

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<v Speaker 2>insurance agent for having signed someone on an insurance policy.

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<v Speaker 2>So using your own money, you could give a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to the insurance company and they would give you

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<v Speaker 2>three thousand back. So a lot of dead people were

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<v Speaker 2>for udulently registered as owners of insurance policies.

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<v Speaker 1>AMP did not respond to requests for comment. While trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find out more about Alan and his involvement in

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<v Speaker 1>tombstone scams, I come across an expert who can help.

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<v Speaker 7>My name's Clinton Free, and I'm a professor here at

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<v Speaker 7>the University of Sydney Business School.

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Free has researched con artists and fraud for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time and he's noticed some common and disturbing traits

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<v Speaker 1>among offenders. We talk in his office and swap stories

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the interesting characters we've come across through

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<v Speaker 1>our work.

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<v Speaker 7>I think some really interesting research in this space refers

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<v Speaker 7>to something called the dark triad of personality traits, and

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<v Speaker 7>those things are narcissism, machiavelianism, and psychopathy. And there's research

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<v Speaker 7>which shows that con artists or scammers tend to have

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<v Speaker 7>a much more elevated sense of the dark triad personality traits.

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<v Speaker 7>And narcissism refers to grandiosity, selfishness, importance of their self image.

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<v Speaker 7>Machiavelianism is that capacity to manipulate and convince others gain

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<v Speaker 7>other people's confidence for your own benefits. And psychopathy is

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<v Speaker 7>just a lack of empathy, so not being alert or

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<v Speaker 7>attendant to other people's plights and being very self oriented

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<v Speaker 7>in the way that one thinks. And I think where

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<v Speaker 7>we see those sort of personality traits come together, we

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<v Speaker 7>see a very effective scammer, a very effective con artist.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think there's a category of white collar offenders

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<v Speaker 7>who where there's a lack of empathy for victims, where

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<v Speaker 7>there's grandiosity, and when there's a sort of exceptional ability

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<v Speaker 7>to manipulate others and gain their confidence and trust, that

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<v Speaker 7>is incredibly potent and dangerous in our society.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've obviously been doing a lot of work in

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<v Speaker 1>white collar crime for many, many years, and you actually

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that you'd heard the name Alan metcalf before through

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<v Speaker 1>your work. So could you tell me a bit about that,

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<v Speaker 1>because that kind of came as a shock to me,

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought, maybe it's a really small world, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's been on some kind of radar for a while.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So, as part of a research project that I was

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<v Speaker 7>working on with a colleague, we had some research assistants

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<v Speaker 7>review internet sources for the names of people who had

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<v Speaker 7>received either custodical sentences or who'd been the subject of

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<v Speaker 7>inquiries or court cases going back several decades, because we

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<v Speaker 7>were trying to identify people who we might be able

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<v Speaker 7>to speak to. And one of the things we did

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<v Speaker 7>come across was Allen's name in Hansart where he'd been

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<v Speaker 7>identified as perpetrating a variety of scams, so he was

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<v Speaker 7>named publicly. So we had this sort of list which

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<v Speaker 7>we whittled down, and what we tried to do was

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<v Speaker 7>move from that to talk to people inside prisons. And

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<v Speaker 7>obviously Alan wasn't in the latter category, so we never

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<v Speaker 7>went forward there. But he certainly was someone who has

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<v Speaker 7>been known and cited in Parliament as being associated with whitechrime.

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<v Speaker 1>Hansard is the official parliamentary record. Following Clinton's lead, I

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<v Speaker 1>discovered that Allan's time as a salesman was indeed mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>there nearly twenty years later by Queensland MP Jeff Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>part of Labour's Townsville branch. He said Allan was recognized

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<v Speaker 1>as amp's top salesman by routing the system, but that

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<v Speaker 1>the insurer woke up to it after customers didn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>their fees when they fell due.

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<v Speaker 9>The AMP undoubtedly had grounds for civil and perhaps other action,

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<v Speaker 9>but because of its embarrassment and the potential loss of

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<v Speaker 9>goodwill due to the inevitable unfavorable publicity, the AMP simply

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<v Speaker 9>cut its losses and its ties with mister metcalf.

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<v Speaker 1>That transcript from nineteen eighty five, which a colleague of

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<v Speaker 1>mine has read out, is still accessible today. Jeff's scathing

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<v Speaker 1>speech to Parliament has helped me piece together what Alan

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<v Speaker 1>did next. He didn't leave Mount ol straight away, even

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<v Speaker 1>after the Tombstone scandal.

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<v Speaker 9>With the advantage of some inside knowledge, he managed to

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<v Speaker 9>discover certain license and permit expiry dates, and as Minus

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<v Speaker 9>tend to be casual about such matters, he was able

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<v Speaker 9>to move in and register certain holdings in his own name.

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<v Speaker 9>The original and rightful owners would then be obliged to

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<v Speaker 9>negotiate a financial sediment with him to regain possession.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff liken this to a modern day version of claim jumping,

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<v Speaker 1>something where people would take plots of land during the

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<v Speaker 1>gold Rush. It would be in today's terms like stealing

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<v Speaker 1>a domain name off the Internet as it expires and

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<v Speaker 1>then holding it to ransom. But that wasn't all.

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<v Speaker 8>He was coorforded and then a strong self promoter, and

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<v Speaker 8>he told himself very.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's Murray Byrd, an expert on the history of AFL.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was writing a book on it a decade ago,

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<v Speaker 1>he met Alan to find out more about the early

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<v Speaker 1>days of the sport in regional Queensland, Alan had become

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the mining town's emerging afi else In his

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<v Speaker 1>spare time, his sales skills were put to good use

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<v Speaker 1>trying against sponsors for the team. Years later, Allan would

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<v Speaker 1>set up a website describing his own pass in Mount iSER.

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<v Speaker 1>He claimed he was the founder and secretary of the

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<v Speaker 1>mount Is Australian Football League and the North Australian Football Championships.

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<v Speaker 1>That's simply not true, according to Murray.

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely wasn't the faner of the mount Is completely he didn't. No,

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<v Speaker 7>he wasn't the fan of the Northern Stroane Football League which.

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<v Speaker 8>Was just a really a one off carnival, as he.

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<v Speaker 7>Played a part in the promotion of that and the

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<v Speaker 7>genesis of the idea of it. But yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 7>be so for sure about being the founder. I think

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<v Speaker 7>he's stretching in a bit to say he's the founder

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<v Speaker 7>of that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan worked as a sports journalist. Jeff Smith said that

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<v Speaker 1>Alan went on to launch his own paper in Mount

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<v Speaker 1>Isa called The Advertiser.

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<v Speaker 9>It is sufficient to say that the paper closed and

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<v Speaker 9>Metcalf left town with the investors in the Advertiser looking

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<v Speaker 9>for their money. He then moved on to Townsville.

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<v Speaker 1>Their shift to coastal Queensland happened in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 1>By then Alan and Mary had their young son, Clayton.

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<v Speaker 9>In tow Metcalf went into a publishing business that produced

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<v Speaker 9>magazines entitled Rugby League North and Townsville Woman. Both the

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<v Speaker 9>ventures eventually folded, with a number of supplies and printing

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<v Speaker 9>firms still being owed substantial sums of money. Metcalf's projects

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<v Speaker 9>are widely different, and they bear little relationship to each other.

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<v Speaker 9>I am sure that the whole thing is suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Smith, who launched this stinging attack on Allen's business

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<v Speaker 1>activities in Parliament, is still alive. He's ninety years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was a massive long shot, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to talk to him. I contacted Labor headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they had any way of getting in touch,

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<v Speaker 1>and I even managed to track down a home phone

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<v Speaker 1>number for him.

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<v Speaker 3>The number you have called is not connected.

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<v Speaker 4>Please check the number.

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<v Speaker 5>This be calling again.

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<v Speaker 2>Not connected.

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<v Speaker 10>To check the number before calling again.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking for another lead to help me understand who Alan was.

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<v Speaker 1>Something caught my eye in his speech. Jeff said that

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<v Speaker 1>another politician had mentioned Alan metcalf in Parliament before him.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to the library and dug through the

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<v Speaker 1>archives and what I found next honestly gobsmacked me. It

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<v Speaker 1>was blinking at me in black and white from the screen.

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<v Speaker 11>Quite frankly, mister Metcalfe is one of the greatest convent

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<v Speaker 11>to have resided in North Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a voice actor reading out the nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four handsard transcript of Kenneth Mechlagott, another labor politician from

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<v Speaker 1>Townsville who went on to become the Queensland Health Minister.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm very concerned about mister Metcalf's record in business, very

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<v Speaker 11>concerned about this is one of the greatest conments.

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<v Speaker 1>As well as Alan's track record of scamming at AMP

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<v Speaker 1>and his failures in the publishing world. Kenneth also plugged

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<v Speaker 1>another hole for me about Alan's early years. Alan had

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<v Speaker 1>attempted a political career with the Nationals, an Australian political

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<v Speaker 1>party known to represent farmers and other regional voters. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to Kenneth Mcalligott, but unfortunately he passed

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<v Speaker 1>away in twenty twenty one. There was one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>could easily fact check to see who was lying, Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>or Allen. Kenneth claims that.

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<v Speaker 11>Allan stood for election in the seat of Townsville South

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<v Speaker 11>in nineteen eighty and made no impression on the vote

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<v Speaker 11>of the sitting member, mister Alex Wilson, But.

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<v Speaker 1>On Allan's own profile, he claims he was narrowly beaten

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<v Speaker 1>in this election. I find the election results. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to bring in an.

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<v Speaker 12>Expert testing one two three.

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<v Speaker 13>My name is Jessica Wang and I work at NCA Newswire, so.

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<v Speaker 12>We used to work together. Jess is a good friend

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<v Speaker 12>of mine. She's a great journo. And can you tell

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<v Speaker 12>me a bit about what you do at NCI newswiy

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<v Speaker 12>So what do you specialize in there?

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<v Speaker 13>I cover state politics for New South Wales. I'm sort

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<v Speaker 13>of a cross You're across the other states as well,

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<v Speaker 13>just as part of the job.

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<v Speaker 12>That we're looking into. So Alan Metcalf, he's this colorful

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<v Speaker 12>character from Queensland. I'd be looking to him for about

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<v Speaker 12>a year now, and he was actually running in an

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<v Speaker 12>election campaign in the seat of Townsville in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 12>So he says on his profile that he lost by

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<v Speaker 12>a tiny margin in the seat of Townsville. You know,

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<v Speaker 12>it was like a hare's length that he lost by.

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<v Speaker 12>But another politician who spoke in parliament about it said

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<v Speaker 12>that Alan lost by landslide. He lost by a country mile.

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<v Speaker 12>So I don't want to put any pressure on you, jests,

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<v Speaker 12>but in some ways the whole podcast could hinge on you,

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<v Speaker 12>because this is the moment where I can realize if

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<v Speaker 12>Allan is a bit of a truth teller or not

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<v Speaker 12>so much. So I might just show you the results

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<v Speaker 12>of the election, and I just want you to tell

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<v Speaker 12>me straight away what your first thoughts are. Analyze it

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<v Speaker 12>as a political journalist. So you're looking at the document

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<v Speaker 12>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Alan Metcalf lose by a huge amount or by

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny as he claims.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, looking at what I have here, he only got

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<v Speaker 13>twenty five point five percent of the votes, whereas the

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<v Speaker 13>winning candidate, Alex Wilson from Labor, he got forty eight

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<v Speaker 13>point nine percent with the votes, so you can tell

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<v Speaker 13>that he wasn't even close to winning from a numbers

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<v Speaker 13>point of view. So the candidate who won got six

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<v Speaker 13>six hundred and sixty seven votes, whereas Ala Metcalf got

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<v Speaker 13>three four hundred and eighty one. If you'd look at

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<v Speaker 13>the two party preferred vote, Ala Metcalf was on forty

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<v Speaker 13>two point four percent and Alex Wilson got fifty seven

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<v Speaker 13>point six percent, you couldn't even say that he turned

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<v Speaker 13>the seat. He sort of helped the National sort of

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<v Speaker 13>clawback more ground in the seat because Labor won with

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<v Speaker 13>the swing of six point six percent. That means that

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<v Speaker 13>Labor essentially got six point six percent more of the

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<v Speaker 13>votes so than before in that essentially increased their ground

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<v Speaker 13>by six point six percent in the area. But yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 13>he wasn't anywhere close to winning.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking in Parliament, Kenneth also added this as a final

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<v Speaker 1>comment on Allan's political career.

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<v Speaker 11>I am aware of a strong rumor that circulated in

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<v Speaker 11>Townsville to the effect that mister Metcalf owed the National

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<v Speaker 11>Party seventeen thousand dollars as a result of that campaign.

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<v Speaker 11>I place credence on the veracity of that rumor, because,

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<v Speaker 11>as honorable members will recall, that campaign was a very

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<v Speaker 11>expensive one to be candid. Allan Metcalf could not have

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<v Speaker 11>paid for it.

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<v Speaker 1>The National Party wouldn't give me a comment on any

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<v Speaker 1>of this. The political chapter of his life behind him,

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<v Speaker 1>Alan moved on. By now, it was well into the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's film scene was thriving and would forge some of

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<v Speaker 1>the all time greats in its crucible like Puberty Blues

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<v Speaker 1>and Crocodile. Dundee and Alan wanted in on the action.

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<v Speaker 8>I awak and recollect Metcalfe was going to turn Towns

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<v Speaker 8>Fall into the new Hollywood of Australia. He intended to

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<v Speaker 8>make it the film capital of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bob Bleasdale, an editor who worked with Alan

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<v Speaker 1>on a TV series set in northern Queensland called Big

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<v Speaker 1>Fish down Under.

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<v Speaker 9>Like I had just slowly.

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<v Speaker 7>Fish, This line is fifteen feet long and weighs more than.

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<v Speaker 12>A metrical time.

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<v Speaker 2>Back.

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<v Speaker 7>Is a big game fishing a contested fact with the

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<v Speaker 7>biggest game.

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<v Speaker 9>Fishing, White Shop.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan was the executive producer, so it fell to him

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<v Speaker 1>to pull the funding together.

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<v Speaker 8>It was the first, the very first fishing videos that

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<v Speaker 8>produced out of Australia for their time, the old very

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<v Speaker 8>big budget, so it was a amount of money he raised.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know how much it was. I know farmers

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<v Speaker 8>were definitely is the main source of revenue on the

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<v Speaker 8>Big Fish down Under. Definitely came. Farmers were worthy investors

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<v Speaker 8>because they would occasionally throw into one of every now

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<v Speaker 8>and then were dropping to the edits week to have

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<v Speaker 8>a chat and see that his money was still being

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<v Speaker 8>put to good news.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty the government introduced something known as the

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<v Speaker 1>TENBA tax offset. It meant if you invested any money

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<v Speaker 1>in the Australian film industry you got a one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty percent tax deduction on all of it. You

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<v Speaker 1>also got a fifty percent tax holiday on any profits made.

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<v Speaker 1>This might sound boring, but what it meant was money,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of it.

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<v Speaker 8>It really said film industry going bananas. There was money

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<v Speaker 8>coming from every where.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob is right. Between nineteen eighty and eighty eight, nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars was invested in Australia's film industry. Peter

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<v Speaker 1>will is a designer who worked with Alan in Townsville

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<v Speaker 1>and he saw how Alan convinced people to invest the

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<v Speaker 1>film bombs.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know you've written off the attacks for the year.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, so you still are. It's still ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>To the product. Gay look as a matter where the

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<v Speaker 4>film goes well not. It just saved yourself fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars in tax.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a great recording, but what Peter's saying is

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<v Speaker 1>that Alan's pitch to investors was simple. No matter how

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<v Speaker 1>the film performed, they would get a massive tax right off,

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<v Speaker 1>so they'd be silly not to give him their money.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he took a lot of leeway out of

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<v Speaker 4>the generous film brand scheme that was going on at

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<v Speaker 4>the time. I think he profited handsomely.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter spotted Alan around town driving me a gold plated

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six Fordlando, which he was surprised about because

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<v Speaker 1>he knew Alan was a family man. I start looking

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<v Speaker 1>into the tax benefit scheme that Alan used to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>investors into the movie business. Our newspaper article in the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Financial Review had a withering view on the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a sad but inevitable observation that some of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest acts of creativity associated with the local film industry

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<v Speaker 1>involved no actors, no directors, and certainly no cameras. These

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<v Speaker 1>creations came from men in plush city officers whipping up

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<v Speaker 1>film projects out of thin air, eagerly adding up their

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<v Speaker 1>fees and dreaming up ever more tenuous methods of using

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<v Speaker 1>films to raise money. The article also referred to it

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<v Speaker 1>as a time on a tax dodge. Peter says he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't agree more and.

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<v Speaker 4>There was abused, would abuse people making shit movies and

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<v Speaker 4>they were never released or just bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan went on to try to make thirteen more films,

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<v Speaker 1>The Kalkadoons and The Crocodile Man feature among them, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's unclear if they ever got off the ground. Looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter has some choice words about Alan.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a shyster so used cars Hausman but the

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<v Speaker 4>swagger of one. But he was organizing investors, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think a lot of money disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Another person I spoke to worked with Alan on the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Fish Down Under series but wanted to remain anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll call him Liam.

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<v Speaker 10>He was a mix of Trump, God and Musk, an

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<v Speaker 10>incredible networker.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam says Alan had a big falling out with a

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<v Speaker 1>key financial backer because he was spending too much money

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<v Speaker 1>on marketing. They never financed one of Allen's films.

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<v Speaker 10>Again, I have heard that a Queensland film editor person

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<v Speaker 10>still talks about unpaid times.

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<v Speaker 1>One well known filmmaker, Malcolm Florence, was named as someone

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<v Speaker 1>Allan owed money to but Malcolm has passed away and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife didn't want to be involved in this podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we ordinarily associate the eighties, especially in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 7>with a more lax regulatory regime.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Professor Clinton Free again the White Collar Crime Expert,

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a bit of an insight into the

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<v Speaker 1>jungle Alan was playing in at the time.

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<v Speaker 7>I think for anyone who is alive through that period,

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<v Speaker 7>the Fitzgerald Inquiry in Queensland in the late nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 7>is really a strong marker in the regulatory consciousness of

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<v Speaker 7>this country. Revealed huge corruption of police politicians at the

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<v Speaker 7>at the highest level, and I think that is the

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<v Speaker 7>reality that our regulators have been strengthened considerably.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter remembers it very well firsthand.

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<v Speaker 4>Queensland was corrupt. They were seriously twenty times.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says Alan made the most of.

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<v Speaker 4>It, being founded by the corruption and corrupt Ellen was

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<v Speaker 4>like a piganlad.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the era when Queensland was under the control

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<v Speaker 1>of Joe Bielki Peterson. He was at the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the corruption scandal and Alan knew him personally. Here's Mary

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it at Allan's funeral.

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<v Speaker 6>He went on to National Party Management Committee with Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Bijokie Peterson for ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Bilk Peterson resigned as the state's premiere in the wake

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<v Speaker 1>of the corruption inquiry, which ended the National Party's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two years stranglehold in Queensland. Three former ministers and the

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<v Speaker 1>police commissioner were also jailed. So what did Alan do

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<v Speaker 1>once that house of cards collapsed? Fast forward to the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>When I started this investigation, the first thing I did

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<v Speaker 1>was a litigation search on Alan, which is where I

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<v Speaker 1>checked to see if he's ever been taken to court.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing came up. He was squeaky clean, pure, it seemed.

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<v Speaker 1>Months later, though, I had another thought. Alan had been

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<v Speaker 1>operating long before the Internet, so maybe his case hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>been digitized. Through a series of clunky search engines on

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<v Speaker 1>the court's website and a lot of back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>emails with the court registry, I hit the jackpot. I

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<v Speaker 1>found three civil court cases against him, two from the

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<v Speaker 1>same individual and one from the Bank of New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>The company's name had actually been misspelled, so it read

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bank of nez Zealand. But then I hit

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<v Speaker 1>another roadblock. I got this email from the Queensland Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>The file you were seeking has unfortunately been destroyed. In

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<v Speaker 1>line with the Public Records Act two thousand and two

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<v Speaker 1>and general retention and destruction schedules, the files are destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years after the last action on the file. It

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<v Speaker 1>had been a lot longer than twelve years, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was desperate this would fill the missing years in Alan's life.

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<v Speaker 1>So I found an email address for someone named as

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<v Speaker 1>the person who suit Alan and fired something off. Within

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, he called me back, Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex, this is calling you. Sent me an email today

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<v Speaker 2>at eleven fifty six am in relation to Alan. Metcalf I,

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<v Speaker 2>am who took Alan to court in nineteen ninety three

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<v Speaker 2>and happy to discuss the issues with you.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't want me to use his real name or voice,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll call him Brody and this is a voice

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<v Speaker 1>actor relaying his words.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan was promoting his business. It was called the Harp Exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to realize that at the time there was

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<v Speaker 2>no Internet. The web browser that we see today didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Heart Brokerage Exchange was basically a business. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of computers linked together around the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you were to buy or sell any businesses

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the world, you'd express your interest on the

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<v Speaker 2>HARP Exchange. So if you wanted to buy a business,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go my name's Alex and I'm a mechanic

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<v Speaker 2>in Indonesia and put it there and you could buy

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<v Speaker 2>and sell businesses. But to do this you had to

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<v Speaker 2>be a HARP member.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound eerily familiar to Safe Worlds. Brody thought so too.

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<v Speaker 2>When you sent me this email out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a bolt of lightning, because I never had

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<v Speaker 2>to think about Clayton or Alan or Mary for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I searched you in news Corp. And lo and behold,

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<v Speaker 2>you've written the whole article one Alan, I read the

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<v Speaker 2>article and this and you know what, if you replace

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<v Speaker 2>that company name with HARP, it's literally just a repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>There was another similarity with Safe Worlds that he also

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<v Speaker 1>realized while reading my article.

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<v Speaker 2>No one bought equity into the business. No one lent

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<v Speaker 2>money to the business in any form of debt. So

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<v Speaker 2>no equity was issued and no debt was issued. But

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<v Speaker 2>the selling point of the business was you became a

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<v Speaker 2>member of the exchange. So when you pay the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand or the twenty five thousand dollars. You're not getting

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<v Speaker 2>a bond or security, and you're not getting equity or

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<v Speaker 2>a share certificate. You're getting a certificate that says you're

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<v Speaker 2>a member of this exchange. But it's not debt and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not equity. So that's how Alan was able to

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<v Speaker 2>circumvent operation law. For lack of a better word, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how he was able to operate in the gray area.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if someone said, Allan knows me money, then the

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<v Speaker 2>question is where's the loan, where's the loan document? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no loan document. My jaw dropped when I

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<v Speaker 2>read this article because I didn't know that this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm literally reading it line by line what you wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of like, this is exactly hot, different names,

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<v Speaker 2>different investors. Instead of being a member of HARP, they've

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<v Speaker 2>issued this worthless equity that's not registered. If I just

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<v Speaker 2>summarize him, i'd call him a sophisticated swindler.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan approached Brody when he was looking for investors in

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<v Speaker 1>his HARP business.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, Alan came to me and said, look, they

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<v Speaker 2>need I think it was either twenty thousand or twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand. It doesn't seem like a lot of money today,

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<v Speaker 2>but twenty five thousand dollars was the equivalent of probably

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<v Speaker 2>a quarter of an apartment or some sort of house.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan said, I just need this money to help with

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<v Speaker 2>the business, and you know, pay it back. And what

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<v Speaker 2>I can do is you can be a member of HARP.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I waited two years and no repayment was forthcoming.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I made the decision that I need to seek

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<v Speaker 2>legal advice. Maybe I was the lucky one back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety three when I actually had correspondence where he

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<v Speaker 2>said he would repay the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Brody took Alan to court and won the case, with

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<v Speaker 1>the judge ordering Allan to pay back the twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Brody had to sue Allan a second time

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<v Speaker 1>when the repayments briefly stopped, but in the end he

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<v Speaker 1>managed to recover it. All I also reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bank of New Zealand, who also sued Alan, but

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<v Speaker 1>they declined to comment, citing privacy reasons. Brody and I

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking, and he remembers something else he'd forgotten about Alan.

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<v Speaker 2>He would spend time traveling between Brisbane and the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>so he did travel a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan, Mary and their son were also living in a

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<v Speaker 1>penthouse overlooking the Brisbane River in the prestigious inner city

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<v Speaker 1>suburb of South Bank.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that penthouse. I'm going to get the numbers wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he paid something like a million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen eighty five eighty six. So one million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars today only gets you a three bedroom apartment, but

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<v Speaker 2>like in those days, you got the entire penthouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Later I checked this out and he wasn't far off.

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<v Speaker 1>Property records show that Alan and Mary bought the four

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom penthouse in nineteen eighty seven for eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars. They sold it six years later for

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<v Speaker 1>one point one five million, not a bad return on

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<v Speaker 1>their investment. The year of the apartment sale, nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>three was a busy time for Allan. Not only was

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<v Speaker 1>he dealing with his court case and selling the plush

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<v Speaker 1>family home, but he was also trying to rebuild Russia

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<v Speaker 1>after death of the Soviet Union. Allan claimed on his

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<v Speaker 1>profile that humanitarian aid workers and the mayor of Moscow

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<v Speaker 1>asked him to inspect the Russian privatization program and proposed

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<v Speaker 1>some advice. Because of his e commerce background. Liam, his

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<v Speaker 1>ex colleague from the movie industry, stays sporadically in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with Alan.

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<v Speaker 10>He says in the nineties he broke it to deal

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<v Speaker 10>with Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that's the reason Liam wanted to stay anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning we've got a voice actor to read his word.

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<v Speaker 10>The last thing I need is one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 10>kilo Russian knocking down my door.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan claimed he worked extensively in Russia and that his

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<v Speaker 1>business idea could be a digital Marshall plan that would

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<v Speaker 1>kickstart the Russian economy. Unfortunately, there's not much more I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to find out about Alan's time in Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>In the late nineteen nineties, Alan launched another company, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was called Safeworld's Australia.

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<v Speaker 12>And New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>The company actually went public and was on the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>Stock Exchange which was called the NSX back then being

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<v Speaker 1>publicly listed when Alan was able to raise new money

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<v Speaker 1>from selling shares. But it also came with a load

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<v Speaker 1>of regulatory issues, including the need to file public accounts

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<v Speaker 1>and communicate with shareholders. But Alan was unable to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>the product or give shareholders proper updates. In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>he had to resign as director. Safeworlds merged with another

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<v Speaker 1>company and it was renamed E Business Systems. This company

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<v Speaker 1>of officially went into liquidation in twenty twelve. A small

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money was repaid to its investors. One person

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the project told me, I would have preferred

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<v Speaker 1>not to have met Alan Metcalf, and so there you

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<v Speaker 1>have it. Alan's genesis, the life story of a man

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<v Speaker 1>who rolled from fraudstar to tax dodger, to con artists,

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<v Speaker 1>to liar and then failed business executive. But as far

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<v Speaker 1>from over, Alan wasn't done with Safe Worlds yet. He

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<v Speaker 1>was about to launch his latest iteration that would kickstart

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<v Speaker 1>my year long investigation. I'm your host, Alex Turner Cohen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're listening to the Missing forty nine million next time.

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<v Speaker 5>He was like a medieval monk who had claimed to

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<v Speaker 5>have discovered angelic script, the language of angels, as if

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<v Speaker 5>it was something new, so that.

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<v Speaker 10>One, this is just crazy.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 5>He was comparing himself to people like Edison and Ironsky,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and people that are discovered penicillin, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like he was making a comparison with he had just

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<v Speaker 5>as a normalman had discovered this lure of thought.

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