1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: If I'm going to find Alan's missing forty nine million dollars, 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: I need to understand more about the man himself. Had 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: he done something like his safe World scheme before? Who 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: was he, what was he like and how did he 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: get his start? Looking into someone's past is a tricky undertaking, 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: as I'm about to learn, and I had no idea 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: what I was in for and how far back. Unraveling 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the mystery of Alan Metcalf goes. 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Inn. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: He killed me A nine sixty nine and a car accent. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: This is Gary Avis. Gary might be eighty years old now, 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: but he remembers it all vividly, the dirt road where 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: he and his then colleague Alan Metcalf should have died. 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: We're speaking over the phone, so it's not a great recording. 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: We told him at least four times to stop the 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: car or we're going to get out of the car, 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: and that's when he rolled up. I mean, it's a 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: lot of fun rolling a car in the middle central 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: Australia with nobody around in two hundred CA's from the 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: nearest down. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: Did you think you were going to die in that moment? 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: Didn't that time to think a bloody thing? Roll five times? 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: Had ended up on its roof. 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: Alan and Gary were working together as life insurance salesman 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: at amp in Mount Isa in Queensland's northwest Outback, a 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: tiny Australian town even tinier back then. The cause of 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: the accident was simple. Alan was in his early twenties 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: and he was starting to make some serious money. Recently, 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: he'd bought a new car. His little Volkswagen Beetle was 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: upgraded to a VIP Valiant. 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: Also doing Alan, This car's too powerful for the speed 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: you were doing. You've never had a big car like this. 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Alan was newly married to Mary. The young husband was 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: in a rush because he'd promised his wife he'd be 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: home in time for dinner. We should have died, but 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: they didn't. In fact, Alan Metcalf was just getting started. 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: He was about to launch his earliest recorded scale, but 38 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be his last. I'm Alex Turner Cohen, a 39 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: finance and investigative reporter from newstock com do AU, and 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: you're listening to The Missing forty nine Million. This is 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: episode two genesis. Alan and Gary were down that lonely 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: road visiting a client. The papers in their work briefcase 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: went flying everywhere. After the crash, glass shattered all over them. 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: They tried to set the car on fire, the only 45 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: way they could think to draw attention as the desert 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: darkened around them. But Gary said it was the hardest 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: thing he'd ever attempted to do, and eventually he and 48 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: Alan just gave up. It took three hours for another 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: car to find them, and the police drove them home 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: to Mount Isa. They kept working at amp, but it 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the last time Gary crosspaths with Alan metcalf 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: or her his name around town for all the wrong reasons. 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: Mount Oz is a raw town, a rough town. Most 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: of the pubs had a bearfisted fighting champion. It was 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: an exciting town to be in as a young black, 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: and people were making a lot of money, serious money. 57 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: I mean five hundred and eighty bucks a week in 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty six is a lot of money. Allan was 59 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: caught up in that sort of hype. 60 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Gary's right, it was a lot of money like making 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars a week in today's world. In Allan's 62 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: own words from a video uploaded to vimeo discussing his past, he. 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: Said Mount Isaza was an interesting place because there was 64 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: great job opportunities. 65 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: That's what attracted people, and there was good money to 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 5: be made in Mount Isa. 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: Alan grew up in Cannes, in Queensland's tropical north, but 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: he moved to Mount Isa for a mining job and 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: married Mary in nineteen sixty five. He was around nineteen 70 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: years old and she was about seventy. He became a 71 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: salesman at AMP shortly after, which is how Gary Avis 72 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: met him. Years later he'd be peddling the safe Worth product, 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: but then he was selling life insurance and he was 74 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: really good at his job, too good. In a eulogy, 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Mary had this to say. 76 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 6: Just before he turned twenty one, he was approached by 77 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 6: the AMP Society and he became Australasia's top salesman. Three 78 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 6: years in a row. He broke all sales records, which 79 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 6: he held for over a decade or even longer. Keep 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 6: in mind that mat iSER had a population of twenty 81 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 6: five thousand people, and yet he still beat all these records, 82 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 6: writing in excess of seven and a half million dollars 83 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 6: in whole of life policies. 84 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: But Gary doesn't see how he never impressed me. 85 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: He was nowhere near the top sales in Australia got 86 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: nowhere near he wouldn't be in the top fifty. I 87 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: think I know what he did. He probably signed up 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: what they call temstans, these people that don't exist. 89 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: So essentially he was selling insurance to dead people and 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: he was pocketing a hefty commission in the process. 91 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: So like he probably got to check out to Highlight, 92 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: or he may not. 93 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Someone else who knew Alan, who preferred to remain anonymous, 94 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: explain to me how it works. We're using a voice actor, 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: but these are his words. 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: You would go to a local cemetery, a Nudge cemetery 97 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: or pick a cemetery, and you'd literally write the person's 98 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: name down. And back in those days, the insurance companies 99 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: would pay like two or three years commission to the 100 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: insurance agent for having signed someone on an insurance policy. 101 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: So using your own money, you could give a thousand 102 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: dollars to the insurance company and they would give you 103 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: three thousand back. So a lot of dead people were 104 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: for udulently registered as owners of insurance policies. 105 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: AMP did not respond to requests for comment. While trying 106 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: to find out more about Alan and his involvement in 107 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: tombstone scams, I come across an expert who can help. 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 7: My name's Clinton Free, and I'm a professor here at 109 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 7: the University of Sydney Business School. 110 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: Professor Free has researched con artists and fraud for a 111 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: long time and he's noticed some common and disturbing traits 112 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: among offenders. We talk in his office and swap stories 113 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: about some of the interesting characters we've come across through 114 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: our work. 115 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 7: I think some really interesting research in this space refers 116 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 7: to something called the dark triad of personality traits, and 117 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 7: those things are narcissism, machiavelianism, and psychopathy. And there's research 118 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 7: which shows that con artists or scammers tend to have 119 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 7: a much more elevated sense of the dark triad personality traits. 120 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 7: And narcissism refers to grandiosity, selfishness, importance of their self image. 121 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 7: Machiavelianism is that capacity to manipulate and convince others gain 122 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 7: other people's confidence for your own benefits. And psychopathy is 123 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 7: just a lack of empathy, so not being alert or 124 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 7: attendant to other people's plights and being very self oriented 125 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 7: in the way that one thinks. And I think where 126 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 7: we see those sort of personality traits come together, we 127 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 7: see a very effective scammer, a very effective con artist. 128 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 7: But I think there's a category of white collar offenders 129 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 7: who where there's a lack of empathy for victims, where 130 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 7: there's grandiosity, and when there's a sort of exceptional ability 131 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 7: to manipulate others and gain their confidence and trust, that 132 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 7: is incredibly potent and dangerous in our society. 133 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: So you've obviously been doing a lot of work in 134 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: white collar crime for many, many years, and you actually 135 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: mentioned that you'd heard the name Alan metcalf before through 136 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: your work. So could you tell me a bit about that, 137 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: because that kind of came as a shock to me, 138 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: But I thought, maybe it's a really small world, or 139 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: maybe he's been on some kind of radar for a while. 140 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 141 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 7: So, as part of a research project that I was 142 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 7: working on with a colleague, we had some research assistants 143 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 7: review internet sources for the names of people who had 144 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 7: received either custodical sentences or who'd been the subject of 145 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 7: inquiries or court cases going back several decades, because we 146 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 7: were trying to identify people who we might be able 147 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 7: to speak to. And one of the things we did 148 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 7: come across was Allen's name in Hansart where he'd been 149 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 7: identified as perpetrating a variety of scams, so he was 150 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 7: named publicly. So we had this sort of list which 151 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 7: we whittled down, and what we tried to do was 152 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 7: move from that to talk to people inside prisons. And 153 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 7: obviously Alan wasn't in the latter category, so we never 154 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 7: went forward there. But he certainly was someone who has 155 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 7: been known and cited in Parliament as being associated with whitechrime. 156 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Hansard is the official parliamentary record. Following Clinton's lead, I 157 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: discovered that Allan's time as a salesman was indeed mentioned 158 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: there nearly twenty years later by Queensland MP Jeff Smith, 159 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: part of Labour's Townsville branch. He said Allan was recognized 160 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: as amp's top salesman by routing the system, but that 161 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: the insurer woke up to it after customers didn't pay 162 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: their fees when they fell due. 163 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 9: The AMP undoubtedly had grounds for civil and perhaps other action, 164 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 9: but because of its embarrassment and the potential loss of 165 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 9: goodwill due to the inevitable unfavorable publicity, the AMP simply 166 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 9: cut its losses and its ties with mister metcalf. 167 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: That transcript from nineteen eighty five, which a colleague of 168 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: mine has read out, is still accessible today. Jeff's scathing 169 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: speech to Parliament has helped me piece together what Alan 170 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: did next. He didn't leave Mount ol straight away, even 171 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: after the Tombstone scandal. 172 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 9: With the advantage of some inside knowledge, he managed to 173 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 9: discover certain license and permit expiry dates, and as Minus 174 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 9: tend to be casual about such matters, he was able 175 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 9: to move in and register certain holdings in his own name. 176 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 9: The original and rightful owners would then be obliged to 177 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 9: negotiate a financial sediment with him to regain possession. 178 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Jeff liken this to a modern day version of claim jumping, 179 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: something where people would take plots of land during the 180 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: gold Rush. It would be in today's terms like stealing 181 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: a domain name off the Internet as it expires and 182 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: then holding it to ransom. But that wasn't all. 183 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 8: He was coorforded and then a strong self promoter, and 184 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 8: he told himself very. 185 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: Well, that's Murray Byrd, an expert on the history of AFL. 186 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: When he was writing a book on it a decade ago, 187 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: he met Alan to find out more about the early 188 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: days of the sport in regional Queensland, Alan had become 189 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: involved in the mining town's emerging afi else In his 190 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: spare time, his sales skills were put to good use 191 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: trying against sponsors for the team. Years later, Allan would 192 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: set up a website describing his own pass in Mount iSER. 193 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: He claimed he was the founder and secretary of the 194 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: mount Is Australian Football League and the North Australian Football Championships. 195 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: That's simply not true, according to Murray. 196 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 7: Definitely wasn't the faner of the mount Is completely he didn't. No, 197 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 7: he wasn't the fan of the Northern Stroane Football League which. 198 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 8: Was just a really a one off carnival, as he. 199 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 7: Played a part in the promotion of that and the 200 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 7: genesis of the idea of it. But yeah, I could 201 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 7: be so for sure about being the founder. I think 202 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 7: he's stretching in a bit to say he's the founder 203 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 7: of that as well. 204 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: Alan worked as a sports journalist. Jeff Smith said that 205 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Alan went on to launch his own paper in Mount 206 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: Isa called The Advertiser. 207 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 9: It is sufficient to say that the paper closed and 208 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 9: Metcalf left town with the investors in the Advertiser looking 209 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 9: for their money. He then moved on to Townsville. 210 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: Their shift to coastal Queensland happened in nineteen seventy eight. 211 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: By then Alan and Mary had their young son, Clayton. 212 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 9: In tow Metcalf went into a publishing business that produced 213 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 9: magazines entitled Rugby League North and Townsville Woman. Both the 214 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 9: ventures eventually folded, with a number of supplies and printing 215 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 9: firms still being owed substantial sums of money. Metcalf's projects 216 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 9: are widely different, and they bear little relationship to each other. 217 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 9: I am sure that the whole thing is suspect. 218 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Smith, who launched this stinging attack on Allen's business 219 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: activities in Parliament, is still alive. He's ninety years old. 220 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: I knew it was a massive long shot, but I 221 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: really wanted to talk to him. I contacted Labor headquarters 222 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: to see if they had any way of getting in touch, 223 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: and I even managed to track down a home phone 224 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: number for him. 225 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: The number you have called is not connected. 226 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: Please check the number. 227 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: This be calling again. 228 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: Not connected. 229 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 10: To check the number before calling again. 230 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: Looking for another lead to help me understand who Alan was. 231 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: Something caught my eye in his speech. Jeff said that 232 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: another politician had mentioned Alan metcalf in Parliament before him. 233 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: So I went to the library and dug through the 234 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: archives and what I found next honestly gobsmacked me. It 235 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: was blinking at me in black and white from the screen. 236 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 11: Quite frankly, mister Metcalfe is one of the greatest convent 237 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 11: to have resided in North Queensland. 238 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: That was a voice actor reading out the nineteen eighty 239 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: four handsard transcript of Kenneth Mechlagott, another labor politician from 240 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: Townsville who went on to become the Queensland Health Minister. 241 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 11: I'm very concerned about mister Metcalf's record in business, very 242 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 11: concerned about this is one of the greatest conments. 243 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: As well as Alan's track record of scamming at AMP 244 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: and his failures in the publishing world. Kenneth also plugged 245 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: another hole for me about Alan's early years. Alan had 246 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: attempted a political career with the Nationals, an Australian political 247 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: party known to represent farmers and other regional voters. I 248 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to Kenneth Mcalligott, but unfortunately he passed 249 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: away in twenty twenty one. There was one thing I 250 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: could easily fact check to see who was lying, Kenneth 251 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: or Allen. Kenneth claims that. 252 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 11: Allan stood for election in the seat of Townsville South 253 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 11: in nineteen eighty and made no impression on the vote 254 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 11: of the sitting member, mister Alex Wilson, But. 255 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: On Allan's own profile, he claims he was narrowly beaten 256 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: in this election. I find the election results. Now it's 257 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: time to bring in an. 258 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 12: Expert testing one two three. 259 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 13: My name is Jessica Wang and I work at NCA Newswire, so. 260 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 12: We used to work together. Jess is a good friend 261 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 12: of mine. She's a great journo. And can you tell 262 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 12: me a bit about what you do at NCI newswiy 263 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 12: So what do you specialize in there? 264 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 13: I cover state politics for New South Wales. I'm sort 265 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 13: of a cross You're across the other states as well, 266 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 13: just as part of the job. 267 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 12: That we're looking into. So Alan Metcalf, he's this colorful 268 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 12: character from Queensland. I'd be looking to him for about 269 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 12: a year now, and he was actually running in an 270 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 12: election campaign in the seat of Townsville in nineteen eighty. 271 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 12: So he says on his profile that he lost by 272 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 12: a tiny margin in the seat of Townsville. You know, 273 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 12: it was like a hare's length that he lost by. 274 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 12: But another politician who spoke in parliament about it said 275 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 12: that Alan lost by landslide. He lost by a country mile. 276 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 12: So I don't want to put any pressure on you, jests, 277 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 12: but in some ways the whole podcast could hinge on you, 278 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 12: because this is the moment where I can realize if 279 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 12: Allan is a bit of a truth teller or not 280 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 12: so much. So I might just show you the results 281 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 12: of the election, and I just want you to tell 282 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 12: me straight away what your first thoughts are. Analyze it 283 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 12: as a political journalist. So you're looking at the document 284 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 12: right now. 285 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: Did Alan Metcalf lose by a huge amount or by 286 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: a tiny as he claims. 287 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 13: Well, looking at what I have here, he only got 288 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 13: twenty five point five percent of the votes, whereas the 289 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 13: winning candidate, Alex Wilson from Labor, he got forty eight 290 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 13: point nine percent with the votes, so you can tell 291 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 13: that he wasn't even close to winning from a numbers 292 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 13: point of view. So the candidate who won got six 293 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 13: six hundred and sixty seven votes, whereas Ala Metcalf got 294 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 13: three four hundred and eighty one. If you'd look at 295 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 13: the two party preferred vote, Ala Metcalf was on forty 296 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 13: two point four percent and Alex Wilson got fifty seven 297 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 13: point six percent, you couldn't even say that he turned 298 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 13: the seat. He sort of helped the National sort of 299 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 13: clawback more ground in the seat because Labor won with 300 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 13: the swing of six point six percent. That means that 301 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 13: Labor essentially got six point six percent more of the 302 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 13: votes so than before in that essentially increased their ground 303 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 13: by six point six percent in the area. But yeah, absolutely, 304 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 13: he wasn't anywhere close to winning. 305 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: Speaking in Parliament, Kenneth also added this as a final 306 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: comment on Allan's political career. 307 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 11: I am aware of a strong rumor that circulated in 308 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 11: Townsville to the effect that mister Metcalf owed the National 309 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 11: Party seventeen thousand dollars as a result of that campaign. 310 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 11: I place credence on the veracity of that rumor, because, 311 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 11: as honorable members will recall, that campaign was a very 312 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 11: expensive one to be candid. Allan Metcalf could not have 313 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 11: paid for it. 314 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: The National Party wouldn't give me a comment on any 315 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: of this. The political chapter of his life behind him, 316 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: Alan moved on. By now, it was well into the eighties. 317 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Australia's film scene was thriving and would forge some of 318 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: the all time greats in its crucible like Puberty Blues 319 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: and Crocodile. Dundee and Alan wanted in on the action. 320 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 8: I awak and recollect Metcalfe was going to turn Towns 321 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 8: Fall into the new Hollywood of Australia. He intended to 322 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 8: make it the film capital of the world. 323 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: This is Bob Bleasdale, an editor who worked with Alan 324 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: on a TV series set in northern Queensland called Big 325 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: Fish down Under. 326 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 9: Like I had just slowly. 327 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 7: Fish, This line is fifteen feet long and weighs more than. 328 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 12: A metrical time. 329 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: Back. 330 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 7: Is a big game fishing a contested fact with the 331 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 7: biggest game. 332 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 9: Fishing, White Shop. 333 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: Alan was the executive producer, so it fell to him 334 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: to pull the funding together. 335 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 8: It was the first, the very first fishing videos that 336 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 8: produced out of Australia for their time, the old very 337 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 8: big budget, so it was a amount of money he raised. 338 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 8: I don't know how much it was. I know farmers 339 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 8: were definitely is the main source of revenue on the 340 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 8: Big Fish down Under. Definitely came. Farmers were worthy investors 341 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 8: because they would occasionally throw into one of every now 342 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 8: and then were dropping to the edits week to have 343 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 8: a chat and see that his money was still being 344 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 8: put to good news. 345 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty the government introduced something known as the 346 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: TENBA tax offset. It meant if you invested any money 347 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: in the Australian film industry you got a one hundred 348 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: and fifty percent tax deduction on all of it. You 349 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: also got a fifty percent tax holiday on any profits made. 350 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: This might sound boring, but what it meant was money, 351 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: lots of it. 352 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 8: It really said film industry going bananas. There was money 353 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 8: coming from every where. 354 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: Bob is right. Between nineteen eighty and eighty eight, nearly 355 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: a billion dollars was invested in Australia's film industry. Peter 356 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: will is a designer who worked with Alan in Townsville 357 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: and he saw how Alan convinced people to invest the 358 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: film bombs. 359 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 4: But you know you've written off the attacks for the year. 360 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, so you still are. It's still ahead. 361 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: To the product. Gay look as a matter where the 362 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 4: film goes well not. It just saved yourself fifty thousand 363 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 4: dollars in tax. 364 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: This isn't a great recording, but what Peter's saying is 365 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: that Alan's pitch to investors was simple. No matter how 366 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: the film performed, they would get a massive tax right off, 367 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: so they'd be silly not to give him their money. 368 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: I think he took a lot of leeway out of 369 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 4: the generous film brand scheme that was going on at 370 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: the time. I think he profited handsomely. 371 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Peter spotted Alan around town driving me a gold plated 372 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six Fordlando, which he was surprised about because 373 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: he knew Alan was a family man. I start looking 374 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: into the tax benefit scheme that Alan used to encourage 375 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: investors into the movie business. Our newspaper article in the 376 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: Australian Financial Review had a withering view on the whole thing. 377 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: It's a sad but inevitable observation that some of the 378 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: greatest acts of creativity associated with the local film industry 379 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: involved no actors, no directors, and certainly no cameras. These 380 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: creations came from men in plush city officers whipping up 381 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: film projects out of thin air, eagerly adding up their 382 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: fees and dreaming up ever more tenuous methods of using 383 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: films to raise money. The article also referred to it 384 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: as a time on a tax dodge. Peter says he 385 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: couldn't agree more and. 386 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 4: There was abused, would abuse people making shit movies and 387 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: they were never released or just bomb. 388 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: Alan went on to try to make thirteen more films, 389 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: The Kalkadoons and The Crocodile Man feature among them, but 390 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: it's unclear if they ever got off the ground. Looking back, 391 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: Peter has some choice words about Alan. 392 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: He was a shyster so used cars Hausman but the 393 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 4: swagger of one. But he was organizing investors, but I 394 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: think a lot of money disappeared. 395 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Another person I spoke to worked with Alan on the 396 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: Big Fish Down Under series but wanted to remain anonymous, 397 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: so we'll call him Liam. 398 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 10: He was a mix of Trump, God and Musk, an 399 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 10: incredible networker. 400 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Liam says Alan had a big falling out with a 401 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: key financial backer because he was spending too much money 402 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: on marketing. They never financed one of Allen's films. 403 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 10: Again, I have heard that a Queensland film editor person 404 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 10: still talks about unpaid times. 405 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: One well known filmmaker, Malcolm Florence, was named as someone 406 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Allan owed money to but Malcolm has passed away and 407 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: his wife didn't want to be involved in this podcast. 408 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 7: I think we ordinarily associate the eighties, especially in Queensland, 409 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 7: with a more lax regulatory regime. 410 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: That's Professor Clinton Free again the White Collar Crime Expert, 411 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: to give you a bit of an insight into the 412 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: jungle Alan was playing in at the time. 413 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 7: I think for anyone who is alive through that period, 414 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 7: the Fitzgerald Inquiry in Queensland in the late nineteen eighties 415 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 7: is really a strong marker in the regulatory consciousness of 416 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 7: this country. Revealed huge corruption of police politicians at the 417 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 7: at the highest level, and I think that is the 418 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 7: reality that our regulators have been strengthened considerably. 419 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: Peter remembers it very well firsthand. 420 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: Queensland was corrupt. They were seriously twenty times. 421 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: And he says Alan made the most of. 422 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: It, being founded by the corruption and corrupt Ellen was 423 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 4: like a piganlad. 424 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: This was the era when Queensland was under the control 425 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: of Joe Bielki Peterson. He was at the center of 426 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: the corruption scandal and Alan knew him personally. Here's Mary 427 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: talking about it at Allan's funeral. 428 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 6: He went on to National Party Management Committee with Joe 429 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 6: Bijokie Peterson for ten years. 430 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: Bilk Peterson resigned as the state's premiere in the wake 431 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: of the corruption inquiry, which ended the National Party's thirty 432 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: two years stranglehold in Queensland. Three former ministers and the 433 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: police commissioner were also jailed. So what did Alan do 434 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: once that house of cards collapsed? Fast forward to the nineties. 435 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: When I started this investigation, the first thing I did 436 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: was a litigation search on Alan, which is where I 437 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: checked to see if he's ever been taken to court. 438 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Nothing came up. He was squeaky clean, pure, it seemed. 439 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: Months later, though, I had another thought. Alan had been 440 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: operating long before the Internet, so maybe his case hadn't 441 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: been digitized. Through a series of clunky search engines on 442 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: the court's website and a lot of back and forth 443 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: emails with the court registry, I hit the jackpot. I 444 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: found three civil court cases against him, two from the 445 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: same individual and one from the Bank of New Zealand. 446 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: The company's name had actually been misspelled, so it read 447 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: as the Bank of nez Zealand. But then I hit 448 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: another roadblock. I got this email from the Queensland Supreme Court. 449 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: The file you were seeking has unfortunately been destroyed. In 450 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: line with the Public Records Act two thousand and two 451 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: and general retention and destruction schedules, the files are destroyed 452 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: twelve years after the last action on the file. It 453 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: had been a lot longer than twelve years, but I 454 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: was desperate this would fill the missing years in Alan's life. 455 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 1: So I found an email address for someone named as 456 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: the person who suit Alan and fired something off. Within 457 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: an hour, he called me back, Hi. 458 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: Alex, this is calling you. Sent me an email today 459 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: at eleven fifty six am in relation to Alan. Metcalf I, 460 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: am who took Alan to court in nineteen ninety three 461 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: and happy to discuss the issues with you. 462 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: He didn't want me to use his real name or voice, 463 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: so we'll call him Brody and this is a voice 464 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: actor relaying his words. 465 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: Alan was promoting his business. It was called the Harp Exchange. 466 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: You've got to realize that at the time there was 467 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: no Internet. The web browser that we see today didn't exist. 468 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: So the Heart Brokerage Exchange was basically a business. It's 469 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of computers linked together around the world, 470 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: and if you were to buy or sell any businesses 471 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: anywhere in the world, you'd express your interest on the 472 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: HARP Exchange. So if you wanted to buy a business, 473 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: you can go my name's Alex and I'm a mechanic 474 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: in Indonesia and put it there and you could buy 475 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: and sell businesses. But to do this you had to 476 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: be a HARP member. 477 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: Sound eerily familiar to Safe Worlds. Brody thought so too. 478 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: When you sent me this email out of the blue. 479 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: It's like a bolt of lightning, because I never had 480 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: to think about Clayton or Alan or Mary for many years. 481 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: So I searched you in news Corp. And lo and behold, 482 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: you've written the whole article one Alan, I read the 483 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 2: article and this and you know what, if you replace 484 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: that company name with HARP, it's literally just a repeat. 485 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: There was another similarity with Safe Worlds that he also 486 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: realized while reading my article. 487 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: No one bought equity into the business. No one lent 488 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: money to the business in any form of debt. So 489 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: no equity was issued and no debt was issued. But 490 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: the selling point of the business was you became a 491 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: member of the exchange. So when you pay the twenty 492 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: thousand or the twenty five thousand dollars. You're not getting 493 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: a bond or security, and you're not getting equity or 494 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: a share certificate. You're getting a certificate that says you're 495 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: a member of this exchange. But it's not debt and 496 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: it's not equity. So that's how Alan was able to 497 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: circumvent operation law. For lack of a better word, that's 498 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 2: how he was able to operate in the gray area. 499 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: Because if someone said, Allan knows me money, then the 500 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: question is where's the loan, where's the loan document? Well, 501 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: there was no loan document. My jaw dropped when I 502 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: read this article because I didn't know that this happened. 503 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm literally reading it line by line what you wrote, 504 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: and it's kind of like, this is exactly hot, different names, 505 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: different investors. Instead of being a member of HARP, they've 506 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: issued this worthless equity that's not registered. If I just 507 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: summarize him, i'd call him a sophisticated swindler. 508 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Alan approached Brody when he was looking for investors in 509 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: his HARP business. 510 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: One day, Alan came to me and said, look, they 511 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: need I think it was either twenty thousand or twenty 512 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: five thousand. It doesn't seem like a lot of money today, 513 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: but twenty five thousand dollars was the equivalent of probably 514 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: a quarter of an apartment or some sort of house. 515 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: Alan said, I just need this money to help with 516 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: the business, and you know, pay it back. And what 517 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: I can do is you can be a member of HARP. 518 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: I think I waited two years and no repayment was forthcoming. 519 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: Then I made the decision that I need to seek 520 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: legal advice. Maybe I was the lucky one back in 521 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three when I actually had correspondence where he 522 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: said he would repay the money. 523 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: Brody took Alan to court and won the case, with 524 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: the judge ordering Allan to pay back the twenty five 525 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Brody had to sue Allan a second time 526 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: when the repayments briefly stopped, but in the end he 527 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: managed to recover it. All I also reached out to 528 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: the Bank of New Zealand, who also sued Alan, but 529 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: they declined to comment, citing privacy reasons. Brody and I 530 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: keep talking, and he remembers something else he'd forgotten about Alan. 531 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: He would spend time traveling between Brisbane and the United States, 532 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: so he did travel a lot. 533 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Alan, Mary and their son were also living in a 534 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: penthouse overlooking the Brisbane River in the prestigious inner city 535 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: suburb of South Bank. 536 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: I think that penthouse. I'm going to get the numbers wrong, 537 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: but I think he paid something like a million dollars 538 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty five eighty six. So one million 539 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: dollars today only gets you a three bedroom apartment, but 540 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: like in those days, you got the entire penthouse. 541 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: Later I checked this out and he wasn't far off. 542 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: Property records show that Alan and Mary bought the four 543 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: bedroom penthouse in nineteen eighty seven for eight hundred and 544 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. They sold it six years later for 545 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: one point one five million, not a bad return on 546 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: their investment. The year of the apartment sale, nineteen ninety 547 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: three was a busy time for Allan. Not only was 548 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: he dealing with his court case and selling the plush 549 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: family home, but he was also trying to rebuild Russia 550 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: after death of the Soviet Union. Allan claimed on his 551 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: profile that humanitarian aid workers and the mayor of Moscow 552 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: asked him to inspect the Russian privatization program and proposed 553 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: some advice. Because of his e commerce background. Liam, his 554 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: ex colleague from the movie industry, stays sporadically in touch 555 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: with Alan. 556 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 10: He says in the nineties he broke it to deal 557 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 10: with Russia. 558 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: In fact, that's the reason Liam wanted to stay anonymous, 559 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: meaning we've got a voice actor to read his word. 560 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 10: The last thing I need is one hundred and fifty 561 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 10: kilo Russian knocking down my door. 562 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Alan claimed he worked extensively in Russia and that his 563 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: business idea could be a digital Marshall plan that would 564 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: kickstart the Russian economy. Unfortunately, there's not much more I 565 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: was able to find out about Alan's time in Russia. 566 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: In the late nineteen nineties, Alan launched another company, and 567 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: this was called Safeworld's Australia. 568 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 12: And New Zealand. 569 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: The company actually went public and was on the Australian 570 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Stock Exchange which was called the NSX back then being 571 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: publicly listed when Alan was able to raise new money 572 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: from selling shares. But it also came with a load 573 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: of regulatory issues, including the need to file public accounts 574 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: and communicate with shareholders. But Alan was unable to deliver 575 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: the product or give shareholders proper updates. In the end, 576 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: he had to resign as director. Safeworlds merged with another 577 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: company and it was renamed E Business Systems. This company 578 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: of officially went into liquidation in twenty twelve. A small 579 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: amount of money was repaid to its investors. One person 580 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: involved in the project told me, I would have preferred 581 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: not to have met Alan Metcalf, and so there you 582 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: have it. Alan's genesis, the life story of a man 583 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: who rolled from fraudstar to tax dodger, to con artists, 584 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: to liar and then failed business executive. But as far 585 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: from over, Alan wasn't done with Safe Worlds yet. He 586 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: was about to launch his latest iteration that would kickstart 587 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: my year long investigation. I'm your host, Alex Turner Cohen, 588 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: and you're listening to the Missing forty nine million next time. 589 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 5: He was like a medieval monk who had claimed to 590 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 5: have discovered angelic script, the language of angels, as if 591 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 5: it was something new, so that. 592 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 10: One, this is just crazy. 593 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 8: I can't do it. 594 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 5: He was comparing himself to people like Edison and Ironsky, 595 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 5: you know, and people that are discovered penicillin, and you know, 596 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 5: like he was making a comparison with he had just 597 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 5: as a normalman had discovered this lure of thought. 598 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. 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