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Speaker 1: From the newsroom. A news still come today.

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Speaker 2: Gooday there, I'm Andrew Bucklow.

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Speaker 2: What a pity.

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Speaker 3: As for what we are talking about in today's episode, well,

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Speaker 3: there is a very big event taking place this weekend

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Speaker 3: which will be watched my more than one one hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty million people.

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Speaker 2: It is the Eurovision Final.

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Speaker 3: One of my colleagues is obsessed with this annual song contest.

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Speaker 2: So in just a moment, he's going to tell us

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Speaker 2: all about it.

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Speaker 3: We'll hear from some of this year's favorites, and hopefully

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Speaker 3: he's going to explain why the hell Australia even gets

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Speaker 3: to compete in this European competition. Joining me in the

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Speaker 3: studio is news dot Com dot Us entertainment editor and

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Speaker 3: all around Eurovision tragic Nick Bond Day.

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Speaker 1: Nick, I'll take that that's a fair description.

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Speaker 3: Where does your love of Eurovision come from?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you love.

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Speaker 1: Pop music, how can you not love Eurovision. It's like

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Speaker 1: thirty seven different countries each year sending their best attempt

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Speaker 1: at a perfect three minute pop song. To me, it's

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Speaker 1: like the Grand Final or the Melbourne Cup, except it's

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Speaker 1: actually interesting.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I know a little bit about Eurovision, but not heaps

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Speaker 3: and there may be some people listening who are in

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Speaker 3: the same boat as me.

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Speaker 2: So can you give us a quick refresher about the competition?

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Speaker 3: How long has it been running, how does it work,

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Speaker 3: which country is one of the most tell us everything?

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Speaker 1: All right, So Eurovision has been held annually since nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty six, kind of growing each year, getting more complicated

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Speaker 1: and more expensive each year. Countries from around Europe, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and Australia. We will get to that. They all submitt

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Speaker 1: an entry and they have to get it through a

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Speaker 1: semi final and then compete in the grand final. Now,

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Speaker 1: the voting process actually takes up about half the night

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Speaker 1: and it is part of the fun, even though it

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Speaker 1: is also very boring at times. Each country casts a

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Speaker 1: jury vote and then a public vote, and they're read

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Speaker 1: out separately, and often they're wildly different, which can lead

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Speaker 1: to some real nail biting results. In terms of the

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Speaker 1: most successful country, you might assume it's Sweden given their

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Speaker 1: kind of pedigree, but actually it is Ireland, who runs

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Speaker 1: seven times. It's a bit of a statistical anomaly. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to brush over your Irish accent there.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Ireland had this weird great run in the nineties. It's

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Speaker 1: the time of the Cause and Enya they won four

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm really going for Ireland now. I want

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Speaker 1: I think they peaked about thirty years ago, so I

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Speaker 1: think you're betting on a wrong horse then.

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Speaker 2: Didn't we all? Is there a prize for the act

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Speaker 2: or country that wins.

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Speaker 1: Look, there is no cash prize for the Eurovision winner,

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Speaker 1: but it can be a huge career boost. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you just got to look at like abba Celine Dion

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Speaker 1: Meneskin in recent years, they all turn the Eurovision wins

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Speaker 1: It's a huge, huge undertating. So for somewhere like a

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, they're probably just telling people just give us

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Speaker 2: Okay, we don't need this.

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Speaker 3: This year's Eurovision is on right now in Basel in Switzerland.

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Speaker 3: We've had a few of the finals already, but the

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Australia is in it again this year, Is

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Speaker 3: that right? Tell us about our entry?

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Speaker 1: Of course, we are everybody's favorite European country. Australia is

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Speaker 1: naturally in Eurovision this year. We've got Gojo with Milkshake Man,

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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.

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Speaker 1: So that is a very suggestive song. I think he's

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Speaker 1: singing about a similar milkshake to the one that Callise

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Speaker 3: Let's just say that.

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Speaker 2: But it is.

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Speaker 1: Attention grabbing and it's catchy. So I think we're in

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Speaker 1: a good with a good chance of making it to

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Speaker 1: the final. Last year Australia crashed out in the semi final.

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Speaker 1: Poor electric fields rip any more results like that, and

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Speaker 1: I think that the organizers might consultant Atlas and remember

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Speaker 1: that we're not actually.

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Speaker 2: Part of Europe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, could you just like kind of paint us a

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Speaker 1: Sure it was a result, it was I think a

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Speaker 1: I think Australia has always been committed and passionate supporter

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Speaker 1: think partly Eurovision organizers were just impressed by the fact

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Speaker 1: that we got up at five am every year and

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Speaker 1: watched it. So, as I said, in twenty fifteen, we

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Speaker 1: going to be a bit controversial and say that our

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Speaker 1: first entrant, Guys Sebastian kind of sailed into a top

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Speaker 1: I think we'd struggle to go into the top twenty.

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Speaker 2: How dare you?

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Speaker 3: He's a national hero. He played in a charity football

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Speaker 3: slagging off his Eurovision song what a hater? Who do

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Speaker 3: you think has been Australia's strongest entrance so far because

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Speaker 3: we've been in for quite a few years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, obviously the popular choice there is

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen one of my favorite Eurovision entries full stop.

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Speaker 1: It had inventive staging, incredible vocals. She and she had

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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to some of her song, what ethereal?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it? It's beautiful? Ah go Kate Miller hide key.

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Speaker 3: Now the Eurovision Final, as I said, is coming up

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Speaker 3: on Sunday morning Australian time. Who are the favorites to

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Speaker 1: The favorite is Swedish entry KAJ with Bura ba Batsu

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Speaker 1: and Austria don't laugh. So Austria is the second favorite

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Speaker 1: with JJ's Wasted Love. And this is a really good

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Speaker 1: example of countries doing the let's just try what won

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's have a listen to jj Wasted Love. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that is quite operatic, isn't it? And this is the

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Speaker 3: one from Sweden what was it called again?

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Speaker 1: Bara Bada?

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Speaker 3: You're putting a spell on it? I did, Okay, I

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Speaker 2: That's a bop.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is where you and I are very different look.

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that the Swedish entry Bara Batsu

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Speaker 1: that this is not actually the strongest year. Maybe that

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Speaker 1: it another three hundred times. But to me, it's the

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Speaker 1: any wow moments. There's no like Eurovision goosebumps happening there.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of an inoffensive, catchy little bop. It's

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Speaker 1: Like we all love a power ballad, we love a

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Speaker 1: and I think everyone's going to be going for a loobrage.

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Speaker 2: I've been working with you for twelve years.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard you speak so passionately about a subject

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Speaker 3: as you are right now.

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Speaker 1: We could go for an hour.

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Speaker 2: Well we don't have.

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Speaker 3: An hour, but we will take an ad break and

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Speaker 3: then come back with your favorite Eurovision performances of all time.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back on I'm Chattington News dot com dot use. Entertainment

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Speaker 3: editor and Eurovision tragic Nick Bond about this year's competition.

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Speaker 3: The final of Eurovision is coming up on Sunday morning,

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Speaker 3: Australian time. Nick, this year hasn't been without controversy. I

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Speaker 3: believe one of the song entries was banned, Yes, banned

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Speaker 3: a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm wondering how I'm going to talk about

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Speaker 2: We've got a beeper.

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Speaker 1: But Maltese entry Marianna Conte, was forced to rewrite her

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Speaker 1: song Can't now that he's spelt ka nt now. Kant

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Speaker 1: Marianna says over and over in this very drag Race

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that, And I don't know what that

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Speaker 1: says about Gojo and milkshake man. But so the song

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Speaker 1: has been resubmitted with that offending word removed, replaced just

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. They're gonna love that. Let's have a

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Speaker 3: listen to the reworked version. So I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: see when she performs that in the final. The crowd

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Speaker 2: Nick.

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Speaker 3: Before I let you go, I want you to run

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Speaker 3: me through your favorite Eurovision performances of all time. I'll

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Speaker 3: let you pick three and three only because we don't

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Speaker 1: Okay, Bucky, I have been waiting a lifetime for somebody

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Speaker 1: I have to say I have a real Eurovision bias

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Speaker 1: Number three Ruslana with wild dancers. This won the competition

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Speaker 3: It just was like a bunch of Shakira wannabes singing

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Speaker 3: but I don't see it anyway. Let's move on to

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Speaker 3: number two. You are staring at me with daggers right now,

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Speaker 3: get me out of this well.

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Speaker 1: Two is a bit of a cheat. It's a Loreene tie.

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Speaker 1: She's kind of the queen of Eurovision. She's won it

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Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to Euphoria and yeah, I love

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Speaker 3: that song. I'm pretty sure that was on my fortieth playlist.

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Speaker 3: So just quickly. You're allowed to enter multiple times over

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Speaker 3: different years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: This competition will let you do anything. Australia's in it.

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Speaker 2: You can ender multiple times.

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Speaker 3: All right, what is your favorite Eurovision performance of all time?

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Speaker 2: Nick Bond?

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Speaker 1: Now that I put it at number one, I realized

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Speaker 1: Alenni Furrierira with Fuego. This was the Cypriot entry from

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and it came second. It was beaten by

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Speaker 1: the biggest robbery in Eurovision history. I'm still not over it. Look,

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Speaker 1: seven years later, I still watch this regularly, pretty much

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Speaker 1: does have the best hair flips in Eurovision history, and

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Speaker 1: that's very important.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well everyone should go check that out on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: But here's a little bit of the song. I sit

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Speaker 3: next to you at work. You always have your headphones on.

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Speaker 3: I assume you're listening to interviews or something to file

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Speaker 3: content for news dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'm listening to Fuego.

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Speaker 2: Yes, listen.

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Speaker 3: stay tuned to news dot com dot you, Nickbond, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much, Thanks so much, Bucky, and we'll chat

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