1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land, Always was, always 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Heytis, I'm out and not Sau 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and welcome to Two broath Chicks, the show that shares 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: life lessons and tips to help make you rich in life. 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: And today I'm flying solo. SA and I have decided 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: to go separate ways. She's no longer going to be 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: doing the podcut and kidding. She's just sick. Aha. Did 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: that scare anyone? I hope not. Sal has got some 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 1: Germys and we have our live show on Saturday, so 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: we are not risking it. By the time this comes out, 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: we'll have done the live show, but we just can't 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: risk spreading the germs and the little baby has to rest, 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: so you're stuck with just me today. Lucky you chicks. 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a bit naked and I'm feeling a bit 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: vulnerable Without Sau on the couch today, I feel like 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the voyage and I have no one 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: smiling back at me. But we sold your on because 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: we didn't want to leave you without an episode for 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: this week. And it's also Halloween, so we're going into 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: the theme of scary. I'm scared I'm all alone. We're 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk the things you need to stop being scared 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: of in your twenties, thirties and beyond. Because I wanted 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: to do some Halloween esque kind of episode that wasn't 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: just ghost stories, but I did put a story up 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: on Instagram asking for your scariest stories, and we'll do 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: that in the Brooch Chicks hotline. So maybe we'll have 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: a ghost story or maybe it'll be about a man. 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Both of those terrifying dating and ghosts on the same 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: level of scary to me, you know. But before we 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: get into it, we have to do our Obsession of 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: the week. But it's just my obsession. I can call 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: us out. Why did I call us out? I'm gonna 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: call her and I'm gonna tell her that she's live 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: on air and she asked to give me her obsession 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: of the week because that's like my highlight of these episodes. Helloy, Hi, 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: you're live on air, So what's your obsession of the week? 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Obsession of the week? Do you know what? I actually 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: finished reading The Housemaid Secret, So the sequel to The 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: Housemaid What did you think? 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I thought that it was probably not as good 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: as the first one. But still really really good, such 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: an easy page turner. 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: And obviously picked up that something wasn't quite right, but 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: then the twist that ended up happening, and all of 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: the details within it I didn't guess and I. 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: Really enjoyed it. That's a great obsession. Thank you so 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: much for your contribution, Sally. Oh my god, I've been 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: a long time listener, first. 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: Time caller, so I really appreciate you had me on 50 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: and I love you so much. 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you so much. We always really 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: ensure that we make time for fans. So yeah, I'm 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: going to be blocking this number after just so that 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: you don't get a parasocial relationship with me. Okay, love 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: you bye, love you. 56 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: Ah. 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Let me say okay. So, my obsession of the week 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: is that Lulu Lemon has just won the trademark battle 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: for Lululemon Dupe. This is wild and I don't know 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: if this is just me like nerding out about retail 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: world because I'm so interested in it, but Lululemon is 62 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: one of the most duped brands in the world, and 63 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: it suggests that Lulu Lemon is looking to reclaim the term, 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: whether that means to block imitators or for marketing. So 65 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see this a lot more 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: with brands trying to get ahead of dupe culture, and 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: with jupes dominating consumer searchers and social feeds, the athleisure 68 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: giant may be positioning itself to own the conversation. Interestingly, 69 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: as well, I noticed on TikTok this week that the 70 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: term dice and jupe has also been blocked, but a 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: lot of other jupe terms, like if you search style 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: Tillbury juupe, you can still search that. So there's definitely 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: this shift in brands stopping the entire conversation around jupes, 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: And I think it depends on how you look at it. 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: And I definitely am interested to see how this evolves, because, 76 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: like we were talking about on the episode last week, 77 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: the term jupe now does not hold as much weight 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: as it used to in the past. To me, a 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: jupe is something that has the same quality or the 80 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: same results at a more affordable price point. And I 81 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: think now jupes have just become a thing of Oh, 82 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: it looks the same, it has similar packaging, It must 83 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: do the exact same thing, or it must have the 84 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: exact same fiber composition or whatever that is, and it's 85 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily the case. So I'm interested to see how 86 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: this turns out with Lulu Lemon according to the fashion law. 87 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Instead of chasing every knockoff in court, which maybe cost 88 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: limited and often ineffective, Lulu Lemon maybe laying the groundwork 89 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: to own the narrative. If dupe is the word shoppers 90 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: are searching for, maybe Lulu Lemon wants to be what 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: they find lu I'm excited. I'm keen to see what happens. 92 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: Some of the comments on that post were actually hilarious 93 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: in terms of like the names that people are gonna 94 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: use instead of dupe, and I was like, it's like, 95 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: but I think we'll see a lot more of this 96 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: in the future. Given that you know, Dice and Gyp's 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: been blocked as a search on TikTok, Lulu Lemon's just 98 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: won the trademark battle for it, which means sorry, if 99 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: you new to like lawyer shit, which I am not 100 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: a lawyer. It basically means like no one else can 101 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: use that term, is my understanding. So like, if someone 102 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: posts Lulu Lemon dupe and it's not Lulu Lemon or 103 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: anything like that, they can basically file to have that removed, 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: is my understanding. That's kind of what happened with like 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Avenue, where people were posting like Amazon dupes and 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: of Jeff Avenue and they would say Jeff Avenue jupe 107 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: or whatever, and it wasn't actually Jeff Avenue, and they 108 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: started getting all of the content removed for copyright infringement, 109 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: which gave the brand a lot of backlash because they 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: were targeting small creators and not necessarily the brands that 111 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: were creating the dupe or the copy. But yeah, I 112 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: think we'll wait and see what Lulu Lemon's going to 113 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: do with this trademark. But interesting, let's get into the episode. 114 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: So I've written down four things that are now on 115 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: my list of things you need to stop being scared 116 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: of it. And this is just as much for you 117 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: as it is for me. Some of these I feel 118 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: like I've conquered my fear, and some of these I 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: am still within the journey of conquering this fear. So 120 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: Number one being alone. Most people that we speak to 121 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: about friendship and self worth and self love and the 122 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: on this show and in life, the fear of being 123 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: alone is one of the strongest things that you have 124 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: in your twenties and beyond, Like whether or not you've 125 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: just moved out of home, whether or not you've just 126 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: broken up with a partner. It's never a natural journey. 127 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: You kind of just end up plunked in a position 128 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I'm on my own. Or you're 129 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: within a situation that you don't want to leave, whether 130 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: it's toxic friends, whether it's a toxic workplace, whether it's 131 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: a toxic relationship, you don't want to leave that because 132 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: you're scared of being alone. And not being afraid of 133 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: being alone starts with realizing that solitude isn't a punishment, 134 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: it's more a reset, you know. And in Australia, nearly 135 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: one in four adults report feeling lonely. Yet even though 136 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: studies show that spending intentional time alone can actually improve mood, creativity, 137 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: and emotional regulation when it's chosen in rather than forced, 138 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: so a lot of the time, this fear of being 139 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: alone comes from the fact that we feel like it's 140 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: forced upon us. And because we're so scared of being alone, right, 141 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: we never choose to do it. We never intentionally say 142 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to go on a solo adventure. I'm going 143 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: to go to the movies by myself. I'm going to 144 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: spend this Friday night in even though all of my 145 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: friends are going out. I really just want some time 146 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: to myself. And solitude lets you hear your own thoughts 147 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: without the noise of other people's opinion. It gives you 148 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: space to reconnect with your values and goals, and it's 149 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: also a powerful way to build self trust. Being able 150 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: to hang out on your own and be content with 151 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: that is one of the most powerful things you can have. 152 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: This was something that I severely struggled with in my 153 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: early twenties, to the point that if I didn't have plans, 154 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed. I was like, if someone at 155 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: work was like, oh, what are you doing this weekend? 156 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Are you getting out to anything? And I didn't have 157 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: anyone to hang out with, like, and I wasn't doing anything, 158 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: I would make stuff up, like I would lie as 159 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: if I did have plans, because I was one feeling 160 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: so bad about myself for the fact that I didn't 161 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: have plans and I didn't want to hang out by myself, 162 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: and two for how other people would perceive that, Like 163 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: I was so scared of people thinking that I was 164 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: a loser, that I didn't have any friends, eh, Whereas 165 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: now I fucking love being a lot. If I know 166 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: that I've got a Friday night coming up, and like 167 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: my boyfriend's going out with his friends or is not 168 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: going to be home, and then like my friends are 169 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: doing something, but I'm like, God, I don't have to 170 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: be there. It's not like a birthday or something, and 171 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: I guess just have the apartment to myself, hang out 172 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: with my cats, order an arabiata pasta, and watch some 173 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: shitty movie mm Chef's Kiss. I love it. That didn't 174 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: happen over. It happened through reframing alone to with myself. 175 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: I started doing you know, mini exposure therapy to it. 176 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: So like taking myself out for coffee, you know, going 177 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: for a walk without my phone and also by myself. 178 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean start with your phone because that's abrasive, and 179 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, cooking dinner just for myself. And the more 180 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: comfortable you get being alone, the less lonely you'll ever feel, 181 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: because you'll know you've always got you. Like that is 182 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: a friendship you can never break. You'll never go through 183 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: a friendship breakup with yourself. You're always there. And so 184 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: when you realize that and realize that you can always 185 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: rely on yourself to pick yourself up when you're feeling down, 186 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: to make yourself happy, to entertain yourself when you're bored, 187 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: it's so much fun. Like I love cleaning the house 188 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: by myself, which is a term that I never thought 189 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: I would say, And I've just realized that. Once upon 190 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: a time I was twenty and hot, and now I'm 191 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: thirty and I just said I love cleaning by myself. 192 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: What's happened. It's fine, I like myself, but I love 193 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: doing that because I play the music that I want 194 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: to listen to. I put on like my musical theater playlist, 195 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: and I sing so badly. I dance around in front 196 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: of my cats, and I have the best fucking time. 197 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: It's so much fun. I kind of want to do 198 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: it this afternoon now I've just spoken about it. But 199 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: there is a difference between being alone and the fear 200 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: of being alone versus the fear of being lonely. And 201 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: we actually go into it in our book Finding Your People, 202 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: where we have an entire chapter on the power of 203 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: being your own best friend. So I wanted to read 204 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: that snippet one because we don't talk about our book 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: enough to be honest, and two, I think I've never 206 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: said it better in my entire life. However, there is 207 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: one thing we need to realize. Spending time alone is 208 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: not a failure, but a privilege. Learning to enjoy my 209 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: own company came from understanding the difference between being alone 210 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: and being lonely. Believing that loneliness and being alone is 211 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: the same thing is a common misconception. Being alone is physical, 212 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: it's a fact in that moment there are no others 213 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: around you. Being lonely is a state of mind, it's 214 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: a feeling. Often this is what fuels our fear of 215 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: being physically alone. We believe that if there is no 216 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: one around us, we're abandoned and isolated, and it scares 217 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: the shit out of us. At least it scared the 218 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: shit out of me. When the most fulfilling and gratifying 219 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: relationship you have is with yourself, all other relationships, friendships, 220 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: and connections in your life further enrich your happiness. So 221 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: the main point within that. 222 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 2: Is that. 223 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: Just because you are spending your Friday night at home 224 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: on your own does not mean you're lonely. It means 225 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: you don't need to be scared of spending your Friday 226 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: night alone by yourself because it has nothing to do 227 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: with with your emotional state. It's a fact you are 228 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: on your own at home. And I think that's where 229 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: this fear of being alone comes from, because that physical 230 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: state of being alone, we think, correlates to being lonely, 231 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: when they're two different things. You can have the most beautiful, amazing, 232 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: stunning friendships in the world and you can still not 233 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: have any plans. And I think as well, if you 234 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: can't be on your own, that's something that to work 235 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: through because there is so much power in being able 236 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: to just sit with that and not see it as 237 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: a bad thing. So I'm literally living proof as someone 238 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: who used to literally lie about being on their own, 239 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: that you absolutely can fall in love with yourself and 240 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: fall in love with spending time with yourself. So let 241 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: go of that fear. Stop being scared of it. I 242 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: promise you you will look back and be like, what 243 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: was I so scared of? Number two of things? You 244 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: need to stop being scared of failure. I know, I 245 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: know we like throw this term around and I probably 246 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: sound like some like male American motivational speaker, being like, 247 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: you need to start being scared of your failures. I 248 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: have a point. Getting comfortable with failure is about detaching 249 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: your worth from your wins. As someone who is so 250 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: competitive with myself, I am constantly striving to be better 251 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: and good at everything, and I definitely am still working 252 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: on this. If something that we do in work flops, 253 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: like I'm thinking about it all night, being like, Okay, 254 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: how can I make it bigger? How can I make 255 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: it better? Like why did that not land? And that 256 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: happens sometimes and then it doesn't happen other times. A 257 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: win is like yes, oh my god. But I never 258 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: actually even celebrate wins for that long because I then 259 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: focus on a failure, being like, all right, well, that's 260 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: good that over there is running well, I don't need 261 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: to worry about that. What about this thing over here 262 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: that's not doing as well as I want it to? 263 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: And it's just a shit way of going about life. 264 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: In Australia, where the startup and small business scene sees 265 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: around one in seven businesses close each year, failure is 266 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: statistically inevitable. You are going to fail. Being scared of 267 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: that means you're never going to do anything. It's not shameful. 268 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: It's data. Right, That's how I've shifted my mind. Failure 269 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: is not defeat, it's literally data. It's a life lesson. 270 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: Every attempt that doesn't land teaches you what does work 271 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: faster than overthinking ever will. Psychologists actually call this cognitive reframing. 272 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: So research shows that it actually helps build long term 273 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: resilience and problem solving skills. So the goal isn't to 274 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: love failure. The goal isn't to be like, I don't 275 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: care if I fail. Obviously we still want to care, 276 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: but it's to see it as more of a stepping 277 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: stone rather than a stop sign. When you start treating 278 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: your flops's failure, you take the fear out of trying again, 279 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: and that's where momentum begins. So I wanted to wrap 280 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: this with the famous people who failed before they became 281 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: a success, so that you can see that even the 282 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: most successful people have failed. It's just not as public 283 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: as you think it is. We watch people online, you know, 284 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: be famous and be successful, but that's when we were 285 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: introduced to them. Oh that's how they come onto our radar, right, 286 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: because they're a big success. What we don't see is 287 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: all the fuck ups that they had along the way 288 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: or all the failures that got them there, and normalizing 289 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: that and talking about that is so motivating. Like I 290 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: love that. I'm like, yes, tell me how you failed 291 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: because you were so successful now not because the feet 292 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: of people's failure. Okay. Number one Taylor Swift's album Reputation 293 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: was snubbed by the Grammy's main categories of album, Record, 294 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: and Song, to which she replied, this is fine. I 295 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: just need to make a better album. She had three 296 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: nominations for the following album. The year after number two, 297 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey was fired from her first TV job as 298 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: an anchor in Baltimore. She's now worth three point two 299 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: billion dollars USD with that at aud and start crying. 300 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: Via Wang failed to make the nineteen sixty eight US 301 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: Olympic figure skating team. Then she became an editor at Vogue, 302 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: but was passed over for the editor in chief position. 303 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: Now one of the biggest designers in the world, Lady 304 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: Gaga was dropped by her record label, Island def Jam 305 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: after three months. She cried so hard she couldn't talk. 306 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: She now has fourteen Grammys, a Sports Emmy Award, two 307 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: Golden Globe Awards and twenty two MTV Video Music Awards 308 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: and a recognition from the Songwriters Hall of Fame. Slate 309 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: Queen Vincent Van Goh sold one painting in his lifetime. 310 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: Now his work sells for over one hundred million dollars. 311 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley was fired after his first performance at the 312 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: Grand Old Opry and told to go back to truck driving. 313 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team, 314 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: and Walt Disney was fired from The Kansas City Star 315 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: because his editor felt he lacked imagination and had no 316 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: good ideas. So I think Oprah said it best as 317 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: Oprah tends to do when she said there is no 318 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 1: such thing as failure. Failure is just life trying to 319 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: move us in another direction. So stop being scared of failure, 320 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: because it's very likely the reason that you'll succeed. Number three, 321 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: this is Dawn. That I've got to work on is 322 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: to stop being scared of fictional scenarios. I don't know 323 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: what happened during the conception of me that made me 324 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: the most creative writer in my own head. Ever, Like 325 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: I can sit here and create a fictional scenario that 326 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: has no evidence that it's going to happen that no 327 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: one said anything, no, no one's done anything, but I 328 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: create these scenarios that a fiction that I'm so scared 329 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: of happening. Being scared of fictional scenarios that haven't happened 330 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest vibe killers and energy drainers 331 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: in modern life, and it's incredibly common as well. Like, 332 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: I'm not going to beat myself up for it, and 333 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: neither should you if you feel the same way, because 334 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: it's actually got a name. So psychologists call it catastrophizing, 335 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: a thinking pattern where your brain jumps straight to the 336 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: worst possible outcome. I literally want to piss myself laughing 337 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: because I'm thinking of how relatable this is. So research 338 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: shows that more than sixty percent of Australians regularly overthink 339 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: or worry about future events, even though ninety one percent 340 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: of those fears never come true. Humbled. So our brains 341 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: evolved to predict danger, right, but in twenty twenty five, 342 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: it's more likely to invent it. Like our brains when 343 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: we're you know, evolving being like ooh bad, there's a 344 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: tiger there. It's gonna eat me. That's a terrible example, 345 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: but you get it, like that's come from evolution of 346 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: fight or flight and anticipating the dangers around us, whereas 347 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: now the danger is like, oh my gosh, it's so 348 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: minuscule in comparison. But the problem is your body doesn't 349 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: know the difference between a real threat and an imagined one, 350 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: so it releases the same stress hormones either way. And 351 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: the answer to this is grounding yourself in evidence. And 352 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: this is what I'm trying to do more of. So 353 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: it's asking myself, like, what's actually happening right now, Like 354 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: what has fueled this fear of an imaginary scenario that's 355 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: literally not even happened, And try asking do I have 356 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: real proof of this? Or is this a story that 357 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm writing. Most of the time, it's fiction. You're the author, 358 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: and it's not even happening, so you can stop mid chapter. 359 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: And That's what I'm trying I do. And a quote 360 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: that I tell myself often that I find really really 361 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: helps when I'm kind of in that spiral of being 362 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: an author but I'm actually just stressing myself out is 363 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: when you stress about something before it's happened, you stress 364 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: about it twice. Who wants to do that? So asking 365 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: yourself do I prove this is real or is this 366 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: a story I'm writing is going to really help you 367 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: avoid that fear. Number four, and our final one before 368 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: we get into bro chicks hotline is you need to 369 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: stop being scared of being embarrassing or being cringe. Because 370 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't know when being cringe became the ultimate social sin, 371 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: but I'm over it. Not being scared of being embarrassing 372 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: or cringe is honestly one of the most freeing mindset 373 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: shifts you can make, because the truth is, everybody's too busy, 374 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: no one cares, they're thinking about themselves to remember your 375 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: awkward moment. I literally this is an old story that 376 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: I told on the podcast. I've had a lot of 377 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: embarrassing moments, a lot of embarrassing moments. I literally love them. 378 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: There was one when I was getting my coffee in 379 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: the morning and it was May and I was walking 380 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: down the main road of Bondai and there was all 381 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: this traffic because it was in the morning. I was 382 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: getting my coffee. My fly was undone, and I was like, 383 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: because my belly was I was like getting this wind. 384 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: I was like, why my belly cold? Look down, my 385 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: fly is undone and my Grinch underwear is on show 386 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: for everyone, Peter Alexander, if you're wondering, it was May, 387 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: first of all, and I've just showed everyone in Bondai 388 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: my Grinch underwear. And in that moment I got so 389 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: embarrassed and I was like, Oh my god, that's so embarrassing. 390 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: That's so embarrassing. And then my brain just went, I 391 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: don't know you fucks who cares. They are all lovely people. 392 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: That's not to say that, but I was like, I 393 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: don't even know any of them. And you know what, 394 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I can bet you AE hundred dollars that every single 395 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: one of those people that saw my underwear to this 396 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: day probably don't remember it. If they do, it's probably 397 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: because they really liked them and they went out and 398 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: bought them for themselves. But I bet you any money 399 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: if someone went up, oh, have you ever seen anyone 400 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: with their fly down that was wearing grin hundies in May, 401 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: they would all say no, they wouldn't remember. Maybe it 402 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: gave them a good chuckle, but that's it. And research 403 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: actually backs this up because we drastically overestimate how much 404 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: others notice or care about our mistakes. And it's a 405 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: phenomenon called this spotlight effect. What feels mortifying to you 406 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: barely registers to anyone else in a culture obsessed with 407 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: curating being cool and that girl and like the its thing, 408 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: like being unfiltered or earnest can actually make you more 409 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: authentic and magnetic. Like every confident person you admire has 410 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: had a cringe error. Austin Butler, I think that's the 411 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: actor he was on that TikTok show. I feel like 412 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: that diminishes what it is. It's like that series that 413 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: guy that sits on the train and they have mics 414 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: on the on the little train cards, you know, the one. 415 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: I'll put a link in the show notes. And Austin 416 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: Butler was on it, and he was like, what's your 417 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: hot take? And he said, embarrassment is an under explored emotion. 418 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: I completely agree. We hate the feeling of being embarrassed. 419 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: We hate the feeling of being out of our comfort zone, 420 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: so we completely avoid it. We completely do everything we 421 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: can to not be embarrassed. And I'm not saying, actually yeah, 422 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: I am saying. I am saying you should go out 423 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: every day or at least once a week, and try 424 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: do something that makes you feel a little bit embarrassed 425 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 1: that you don't have to be good at everything. And 426 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing that it was for me, is that 427 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, especially even when we started doing 428 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: this job, I was like, fuck, people from high school 429 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: are going to think I'm cringe. Like it's get to 430 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: be so embarrassing. Like if I'm in public and I've 431 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: got to film something, I'm like, oh, you know. Recently, 432 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: like whenever we do TV or do interviews, we filmed 433 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: an ad for Master Foods. Right, it was a fool 434 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: like full show, like there was crew, there was audio, 435 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: there was video, there was a director, and I don't act. 436 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: I assured him to be honest, like, no, that's being 437 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: mean to myself. But I was so nervous, and I like, 438 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: at the start, I was so within myself because I 439 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: was so embarrassed that I was going to be bad 440 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: or I was going to be cringed because I was trying, 441 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, like I was trying to do something like 442 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: that I didn't have a lot of experience doing. But 443 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: by the end of it, I was like, you know what, 444 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: fuck it balls to the wall. I'm just gonna have fun. 445 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: But I really liked that quote. Is that Embarrassment is 446 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: an under explored motion, and I feel like I want 447 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: to explore it more. Not in the way that I'm like, 448 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go run naked through the streets, even though 449 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: that sounds like a lot of fun, but it's to 450 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: do the things you're scared of doing, even if it 451 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: means maybe someone will think it's cringe, or maybe it 452 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: might be a bit cringe. Every confident person has had 453 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: a cringe era and they didn't quit during it, you know, 454 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: So post the thing, wear the outfit, say what you mean, 455 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: and ask yourself, would you rather be embarrassed or regretful? 456 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: Because embarrassment fades in minutes, but regret sticks around for years. 457 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: So the more you practice being seen, whether it's messy 458 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: or silly or real, the less power cringe has over you. 459 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: And remember, it's only embarrassing if you're embarrassed. I'm going 460 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: to wrap this with a little segment which is my 461 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: Braver by bedtime checklist. So it's four questions to ask 462 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: yourself before you go to bed to prove that you 463 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: were braver than when you woke up that day. So 464 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: it's one did I ask for one concrete thing I 465 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: want today? Two? Did I publish or do something imperfect? Three? 466 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: Did I choose one step over endless planning? And by 467 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: that I mean did you start the thing? Did you 468 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: take initiative in something that you want to do that 469 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: you've been a little bit scared to do rather than 470 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: being like planning and planning and planning and not actually 471 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: doing it? And number four and finally, did I let 472 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: one thing end without over explaining? If you hit two 473 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: out of four, you're officially scarier than your furies, which 474 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: is a massive sleigh. And another little piece of homework 475 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: that I want you to do and that could be 476 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: helpful to overcome. The things that you should stop being 477 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: scared of is the thirty minute courage sprint timer on 478 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: phone in another room, do the highest dread task. First, 479 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: celebrate with something trivial and delightful. It literally could be 480 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: going and sitting in the sun in a park, or 481 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: it could be a little snack, or it could be 482 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: your favorite song. You know, your brain can't actually tell 483 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: the difference between anxiety and excitement, at least not physiologically, 484 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: so both emotions trigger almost identical chemical and physical responses. 485 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: So your heart races, your palms get a bit sweaty. 486 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: Maybe your pupils dilate and your body releases adrenaline and 487 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: cortisol to heighten alertness. Your nervous system is activated and 488 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: ready for action, but your body can just label it 489 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: as danger rather than an opportunity. It's kind of like 490 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: what we were saying earlier. So, according to research from 491 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: Harvard Business School, when people consciously reframe anxiety as excitement, 492 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: like I'm excited instead of I'm nervous, their performance in 493 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: stressful situations like public speaking or interviews significantly improves. That's 494 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: because you're not trying to suppress the energy, you're redirecting it. 495 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: When you try to suppress the energy, it actually amplifies 496 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: the anxiety instead redirect it. The amygdala, which is your 497 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: brain's emotional alarm system, fires either way, but how your 498 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: prefrontal cortex interprets that signal determines your experience. So next 499 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: time your stomach flips before like a big moment, don't 500 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: rush to calm down. Relabel it. Say this feeling means 501 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: I care or my body's gearing up for something exciting. 502 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: You're not lying to yourself, You're teaching your brain a 503 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: new story about the same sensation. Over time, this tiny 504 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: mental shift rewires your stress response, turning panic into power. 505 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: And this is exactly what I've used the entire tour 506 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: that we've been doing with live shows, because the whole 507 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: time we're getting ready with like hair and makeup and 508 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: photographers and tech and all that stuff, every single person 509 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: asks me at least once, are you feeling nervous? Hey 510 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: feeling The very first live show we did, I was, Oh, 511 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: I could have thrown up. I was so nervous, so nervous. 512 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: And then one of my best friends texted me and said, remember, 513 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: your brain doesn't know the difference between nervous and excited, 514 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: So stomp your feet, eat and get excited. And I 515 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: did that, and I stomped my feet on the ground 516 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: and I got really excited, and I wound myself up 517 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, I'm ready to go. 518 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: And that is what I do now every time before 519 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: a live show, those butterflies in my tummy. I'm excited, 520 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: I tell myself, I'm excited. It's okay to be a 521 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: little bit nervous. Sometimes it's okay to not be like 522 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm king of the world, I'm so confident. But you're 523 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: also allowed to be excited for the things that make 524 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: you nervous too. So that's been the thing that absolutely 525 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: changed my life. And yeah, those are my four things 526 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: you need to stop being scared of. So on that note, 527 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: let's get into the bro Chicks Hotline. So, if you're 528 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: new to the bro Chicks Hotline, this is our new 529 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: little segment where you chicks can voice note in your tales, 530 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: your diabolical confessions, or advice or dilemmas. So let's lock in. 531 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: This first one is anonymous, so let's see what she 532 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: has to. 533 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: I was dating this guy for about six months to 534 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: a year, and he moved in quite quickly because he 535 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: had just left his wife. A massive oversight on the 536 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 4: red flag on my end, I will happully admit. 537 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: That chick we love a self away claim. He always 538 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: stayed up really late, and. 539 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: I could see him from my bed on the balcony. 540 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: He would always just be on the balcony on his phone, 541 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 4: and I used to lay in bed and look at 542 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: him and think, God, what is he doing. 543 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: So bizarre? 544 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: And since I was in my very early twenties, I 545 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: promised myself I would never look through another partner's phone. 546 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: And then one day I just had this urge. I 547 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: woke up and it was It's so bizarre to explain, 548 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: but it's like, I just had this urge and I 549 00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 4: just had. 550 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: To check his phone. Oh my god, tell me. 551 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 4: I discovered that he had grinder and he had been 552 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 4: leaving the house in the middle of the night to 553 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: go in a sleep with various numerous men. There was videos, 554 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: There was more truth than what I needed. 555 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: I kind of feel a bit sad because that person 556 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: obviously wasn't living their authentic life. They felt like they 557 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: had to hide that about themselves. But on the other end, 558 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: it's also not an excuse to be cheating on someone, 559 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: Like it's not an excuse to be dishonest with someone 560 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: or move into their apartment and then be literally cheating 561 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: on them in the middle of the night. Whatever your 562 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: sexual orientation is diabolical behavior. But I hope they have 563 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: found themselves and the strength to be who they authentically are. 564 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: Can I just say A woman's intuition is never wrong. 565 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: A woman's intuition is always so fucking on the money. 566 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: If you get this gut feeling about someone and you're like, 567 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't trust you, nine times out of ten, it's right, Like, 568 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: if you get a gut feeling about someone that you're 569 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: dating or a friend that you're like, I don't know 570 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: if they're really my friend, trust it. Trust it. There's 571 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: a reason why women were branded witches because we know, 572 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: we know what's going on. We've only got time one more, 573 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: so we'll run this one. 574 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: I've been single for a while and on the dating app, 575 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 5: so I was spiping and came across a good looking guy. 576 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 5: The only issue is that about ten years ago, my 577 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 5: friend at a one night stand with him. Now I 578 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 5: know there's no feeling, there's no concerns regarding the guy 579 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 5: she's moved on as a new partner that she lives 580 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 5: with gloves very much. I'm wondering whether it's worth matching 581 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 5: with him given. 582 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: This one friend. Every time one of us girls. 583 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 5: Seem to get a new partner or anything like that, 584 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 5: it's actually becomes territorial over the men. And I know 585 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 5: it's not about them, but it could be things like, oh, 586 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 5: that was my you know, boyfriend in grade three, or 587 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 5: we used to take avs together when we were in kindergarten. 588 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: Or something like that, and always. 589 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 5: Makes an effort to know that you know that she's 590 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 5: closer with him or has known him for longer than 591 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 5: us that are dating them. 592 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering what do I do? Is it 593 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: worth the hassle. 594 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 4: Help the girl out? 595 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: See I'm scared for this segment because Sal's always the 596 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: voice of reason in this So I'm probably just gonna 597 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: sit here and give a really bad a bus but 598 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: lock in. Okay, I think it depends. I think it 599 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: depends how long ago your friends slept with this person 600 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: that you want to match with. Right, if it was 601 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: like ten years ago, it's one night. It was ten 602 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: years ago, has no stake or claim to that. I 603 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: think personally, I would always just still raise it with 604 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: the person. I think if it was like a year ago, 605 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: I'd probably just stay clear. It's probably not worth a 606 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: headache because, as you've said, like she has this thing 607 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: of an attachment to people that she has a history with, 608 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: whether it was platonic or romantic, And so I think 609 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: it depends on how much it would affect you. If 610 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 1: she was upset, if this is like your best friend, right, 611 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: you probably would bring it to her and I would say, like, 612 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: this has happened, He's come up on my hinge. You 613 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: guys might not even match. Ah, I wish Soal was here. Look, 614 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: there's two ways you can go about this. You can 615 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: match and see if you match, then you take it 616 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: to it. You guys might not, no, because then what 617 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: if he tells her, Oh my god, this is stressful. 618 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call Soal. I'm phoning a friend. He Hi, Okay, 619 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: you're back on air. I needed to phone a friend 620 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: for advice with the chicks. Okay, So here's the situation. 621 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: This chick has called in and she is on the 622 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: dating app and there's this really hot guy that she 623 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: wants to match with, and the issue is that one 624 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: of her friends had a one night stand with him 625 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: a while ago. She's now in like a happy relationship, 626 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: loved up, stunning, we don't know how long ago she 627 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: slept with him, and like this friend is again in 628 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: a relationship, loves her life, but apparently can sometimes get 629 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: territorial about the guys that people date, as in like 630 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: if her friend's dating someone, she's like, oh, he was 631 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: my boyfriend in year three, or like we used to 632 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: take baths together in kindy, Like she always needs to 633 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: make sure that it's like, oh, I've known them for longer, 634 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: or I've got a close relationship. So a question is like, 635 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: do I match with this guy or do I just 636 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: leave it? 637 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: Couldn't you just talk to her friend about it first? 638 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: That's what I said. 639 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I've matched with this guy, and I know 640 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: that you had a thing with him, but that's in 641 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: the past, and like, you know, I've been kind of 642 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: shoot out of luck on the apps recently, and I 643 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: do think he's really cute, Like it's all in the past. 644 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: Would you mind? Yeah? 645 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, the worst case scenario, and in that 646 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 2: situation is she says no, like I would find that weird. 647 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: I'd be uncomfortable, which is like annoying, But if you 648 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: want to avoid it, yeah, yeah, it's kind of like 649 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: the worst case scenario of either of these situations is 650 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: that you don't get to go on a date with 651 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: this guy or you don't like swipe on this guy. 652 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: And then the best case scenario is that she's like, 653 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: oh yeah, babe, like it's so fine, it's in the past, 654 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: and then you can shoot your shot. 655 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: I said, what if she just matched him, because what 656 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: you don't even know? What if you don't even match together? 657 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true, but no, I think it's good. I 658 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: think she should ask first and just like raise it, 659 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: like like especially the friend. 660 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah history. 661 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: I also think if it was like a year ago 662 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: that they slept together, don't do it. It has to 663 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: be like at least a minimum of like I reckon 664 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: like five years ago that they slept like you were 665 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: basically a different person. Literally, Yeah, if it was a 666 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: high school boyfriend, it doesn't matter. Just say hey, just 667 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: heads up, yeah exactly, Yeah, okay, thanks, Al, weren't you nappy? 668 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: Go to bed? Love you bye? Just cut her off. Well, 669 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: they have chicks from Auntie's ale her thialf. If I 670 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: was in this position, I would be nervous about pissing 671 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: off my friend and like, no guy's ever really worth that, 672 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: So I would probably just message your friend and say, hey, 673 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: is this cool? Like who knows if it'll even event 674 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: you wake to anything. But I'm single and I'm horny, 675 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: so yeah, not me. You And Well, that is a 676 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: wrap for today's episode of Two Broke Chicks. Thank you 677 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: so much for having us in your ear holes. We 678 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: lalla la love to be here, and Sal will be 679 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: back on the couch with me next week because this 680 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: was terrifying I hope it wasn't too horrible for you all. 681 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: I know we all miss our Missa too. Thank you 682 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: so much for having me, Love you chicks, see you 683 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: on Thursday. We've got so invested coming on the podcast 684 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited. Bye,