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Speaker 2: Go in five, keep keep moben.

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Speaker 1: So boys, what are we going to do with ten

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Speaker 1: teams chasing eight spots? About seven point thirty This Super

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Speaker 3: Hey, the harder you go on the patch, the better

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Speaker 1: In fact, Robos only ever missed the finals once eleven

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Speaker 1: Little Sam Walker and Lindsay Collins down, isn't here playing

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Speaker 1: some minutes up against Lehi Hoppawadi two or three Travoievitch's plus.

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Speaker 1: That's about as manly as it gets.

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Speaker 4: For now anyway, the rugby light gods have spoken.

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Speaker 1: Ah the Seagulls versus the Roosters, with the finals.

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Speaker 2: Calling oh's sake, some rugby lea played here.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss the match of the round seven thirty Super

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Speaker 6: Hello and welcome to turn on three sixty re league

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Speaker 6: from every angle joining them again the Great Gordon Tallers.

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Speaker 6: It's been the journals in James Hooper and Dave Riccio

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Speaker 6: and it's getting to do or die stages with this

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Speaker 6: Seagles taking on the Roosters Super Saturday, exclusively live in

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Speaker 6: Fox League seven thirty five pm. Mainly Seagles in ninth position,

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Speaker 7: Best time of the year, bra It's September only just

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Speaker 8: Gordy, Yeah, absolutely, I think the Roosters you know there

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Speaker 8: and maybe the side of that misses this game doesn't

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Speaker 8: make the finals what do you reckon it's that big.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's huge, it is.

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Speaker 3: And these you know, this is the game where it's

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Speaker 3: Certainly these teams probably because because they're in the fight.

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Speaker 6: And the Ruster has missed an opportunity last week mainly

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Speaker 7: Definitely, even definitely it is critical breath. It's going to

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Speaker 7: And you know, if you go back for decades at Manly,

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Speaker 8: Maybe if it comes down to the senior players, he's gone.

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Speaker 4: If he is playing his new club.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the unfair element of its people like

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Speaker 6: Does it change I mean everyone's going to have an opinion.

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Speaker 6: You know what, I want to aim up. I don't

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Speaker 7: Daily's god is he's got three hundred and nearly fifty

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Speaker 5: Of next year.

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Speaker 7: But it's a critical game for both clubs, like they

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Speaker 9: Would you keep Sam at seven and put DC at six?

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Speaker 4: No, I'd put DC at seven.

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Speaker 6: I think DC is more controlled, more experience, more composed.

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Speaker 6: that's why they're getting him, That's what I would think

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Speaker 3: That's interesting you say that Raith the appeal of what

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Speaker 2: Kick Chase right keeps it simple.

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Speaker 3: But Daily has an ability to play a bit of

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Speaker 2: That's very Sam Walker.

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Speaker 3: I'm intrigued to see how that marriage works when they're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's mailed.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know if there's players in his team think

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Speaker 3: Well you've seen Daily and hey, Daily got dropped from

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Speaker 5: But I think the.

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Speaker 4: Runs on the board daily.

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Speaker 5: I think that.

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Speaker 11: It's not about it's not about Lucky, it's not about

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Speaker 4: I think that's if he spoke much. See that's good.

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Speaker 11: No, that's not my job. He's not here, he's not

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Speaker 10: Over the fans probably go pretty hard at Lockey boot

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Speaker 5: To do it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I've been on the receiving end. That's the game

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Speaker 6: I enjoyed that little. I wish is Galvin the best

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Speaker 4: What would he be? Well, maybe he is thoughts on this.

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Speaker 5: Come boy, let's get the marshmallows out around.

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Speaker 7: In all seriousness, you just wish that part of Lockey

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Speaker 7: Galvin's messy exit was an NDA non disclosure agreement where

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Speaker 5: They're on with you. I thought Jerome a light the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at no point through that whole Lachland Galvin scandal

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Speaker 2: Come on mate.

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Speaker 3: We know what Yeah, I understand, but we can't pretend

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Speaker 6: We know he would exactly, and that's what makes this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like and Gordon.

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Speaker 6: I spoke about it, and I suppose as ex players

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Speaker 6: he's got to target. He's got to target on him. Well,

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Speaker 6: he walked in, I won't.

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Speaker 7: He walked in with his agent, the CEO West Tiger

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Speaker 5: About Benji Marshall.

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Speaker 7: As a case, you tell me if you were playing

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Speaker 8: Benji won't even have to say that something spoke that.

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Speaker 8: You won't have to with the posts and all that

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Speaker 6: But they suspecting that he was plotting to move to

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Speaker 7: Or I think the West Tigers do privately suspect that, yes,

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Speaker 6: It was Tiger's fans will be what they are going

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Speaker 3: For who Tigers fans? Absolutely, I think it will be.

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Speaker 3: I think deep down they would like Lachland Galvin at

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Speaker 3: You don't want such talented players walking out the door

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Speaker 3: they would He makes them a better team.

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Speaker 2: He's made the Bulldogs a better team.

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Speaker 7: It's torture for the West Tigers members and fans, Dave,

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Speaker 7: because they've had to walk this path so many times

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Speaker 7: over the course of the last fifteen years. Whether you

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Speaker 7: want to go back to Mitch Moses, a gun local

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Speaker 5: And they've had to go through a hell of a

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Speaker 7: They haven't played in the finals since twenty eleven, so

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Speaker 7: watching the best emerging talent in the game off the

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Speaker 7: back of hearing that they're a development club that are

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Speaker 7: going to invest in their local juniors and build the

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Speaker 6: And I have to play the game of their lives

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Speaker 6: this week to beat the dogs the way they are

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Speaker 6: playing now. Jerome Luai has also spoken on his future

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Speaker 4: Take a look.

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Speaker 2: Will you please to see that RP like officially resigned

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Speaker 11: Yeah, of course, he's a big part of this club

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Speaker 11: as also. I'm good to see this the skip locked

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Speaker 11: in for a few more years. Yeah, comments to play

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Speaker 4: Would he be a big reason why his.

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Speaker 11: Day from stand for it for a long time, for

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Speaker 11: when things get hard, people sort of are expecting you

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Speaker 11: to change. You know, I'm not that type of guy.

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Speaker 11: I'm here for the long run and I'm here to

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Speaker 11: change his cover round, Big love.

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Speaker 4: Big Love. He's there for life.

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Speaker 2: It's good news. It's good news.

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Speaker 3: Can we just can he just come out and announce

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Speaker 3: it that, go see Riche in his office and say hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm locked in.

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Speaker 2: Take the clauses out. He's told us he's there for life.

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Speaker 2: And until that happens.

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Speaker 3: I think Tiger's fans will sleep a little bit better

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Speaker 3: when that happens.

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Speaker 6: If he doesn't take it, If he doesn't take the

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Speaker 4: Do you think you'll stay? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: For Tigers fans, what are you guys thinking? I think

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Speaker 6: he will. It's it is business. This game is business.

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Speaker 6: Let's ask the Tigers stand.

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Speaker 7: Well, they need him to stay, Gordy because they've invested

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Speaker 7: They have pushed their chips so all in on Jerome

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Speaker 7: if you going purely on value for money, he hasn't

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Speaker 7: really aimed up on the field. But everything you hear

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Speaker 7: everything else that he's trying to bring into the Concord club,

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Speaker 7: that's what they need and that's what they haven't find.

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Speaker 4: All part of it that adds value and that's part

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Speaker 4: of the whole deal. Do you think he's been worth

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Speaker 2: No, not at this point in time.

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Speaker 3: Everything Jimmy said I totally agree with and no, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: It's true off the field outstanding work ethic, training character

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Speaker 3: as far as help these younger players onto the training paddock, outstanding.

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Speaker 2: But on the field he hasn't delivered to that figure.

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Speaker 3: And if he was any other player that, if we

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Speaker 3: in the NRL, we would be dissecting them just as much.

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Speaker 4: Well, here are the stats if you want to dissect.

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Speaker 2: Them, well, if you will, he's yet to score a try.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so now, of so much influence on a football team,

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Speaker 3: and a struggling football team, I would have thought Jerome

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Speaker 3: Points wise, last, obviously, Trice is down the pecking order,

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Speaker 2: Look, granted, there's been a little bit of change at fullback.

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Speaker 3: Jerome Buller has been in and out at Becorus House,

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Speaker 3: I would argue that if he went onto the open

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Speaker 5: Would now that I disagree with that, Dave.

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Speaker 7: I think he would with new teams coming in with

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Speaker 7: He's won four Premiershire.

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Speaker 5: You just believe, I believe, I.

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Speaker 7: Promise that if he went to the open market, I

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Speaker 7: other element. We can't tap dance around with Jerome and

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Speaker 7: this is why the West Tigers desperately needed to work

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Speaker 7: with him, is that his arrival has forced Locky Galvin out.

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Speaker 7: There was clearly some friction in terms of their personalities.

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Speaker 5: They didn't get along.

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Speaker 7: Lockie hasn't enjoyed whatever he's brought to the club and

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Speaker 7: we don't know that Benji's going to be their long term.

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Speaker 4: Shane Richards and stick by Benji, well, I.

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Speaker 7: Think he is at this point in time. He has

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Speaker 4: The point in time get the crystal ball out.

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Speaker 7: I think Benji's a coach clearly for the rest of

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Speaker 4: They have to.

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Speaker 7: They've already invested so much, They've made so many decisions

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Speaker 6: Again, just asking questions, if they get the wooden spoon

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Speaker 6: next year, they keep it.

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Speaker 8: I think there'd be a conversation to ask if you

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Speaker 8: look at what if you look at what Soeraldo has

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Speaker 8: look at what Jason Ross is slowly building, I think

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Speaker 8: of points, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think that.

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Speaker 6: I actually think Benji will get them and I hope

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Speaker 4: That's four spoons in a row. If they do get

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Speaker 4: it and we know how it works, you know you

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Speaker 7: Well, they signed a five year deal. When he initially

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Speaker 7: essentially next year will be the fourth year of that deal.

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Speaker 5: So if it.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't work by next season, if it's not working by

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Speaker 6: During Bullard returns against the Dogs, any update on his situation.

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Speaker 7: going to be an issue and the Dreams agent won't agitate.

443
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 7: But I've got to say I didn't light the fact

444
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 7: that he's been spotted sitting with the families of Canterbury

445
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 7: Banks down players game but his sides playing the next day?

446
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 5: Was he going to Cannibury you.

447
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 3: Wanted to support He's made plenty of players go to

448
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 3: what's their mates play?

449
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 4: My concern isn't the play.

450
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: You don't think any current NRL players go to other

451
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: games and what's their mates play?

452
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 5: It's not the first time he's done it.

453
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 7: I'm sorry we didn't watch anybody. My concern isn't that

454
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 7: he's going to support his mate. It's the agent, because

455
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 7: that's the agent who put a bomb under the club

456
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 7: through this year and he's done it repeated last decade.

457
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 8: Because what's happened at the club. If you're sitting here,

458
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 8: you go, is this a good look or bad look?

459
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 3: From the West Tiger's point of view, the kid wants

460
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 3: to go and support his teammate. It's teammate, it's live

461
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: on Fox's better at the ground?

462
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 4: Is the club? Was the club concerned about that?

463
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 7: When I spoke to Rich about it a couple of

464
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 7: weeks ago. He said, Look, I'm not overly concerned about it.

465
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 7: They believe that they have the power because the way

466
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 7: this current contract with Jurim is structured, they get first save.

467
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 7: They can they can say we will take up the

468
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 7: option for twenty twenty seven at nine hundred thousand. My

469
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 7: concern in response to that is the current agent isn't

470
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 7: the agent who negotiated this deal, so he doesn't make

471
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 7: a dollar out of that.

472
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 4: We can't have anymore. That's why.

473
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 5: The Bulldogs game is an issue.

474
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: What value?

475
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 6: What value does it add to the agent by taking

476
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 6: him on unless he's going to move him elsewhere. I

477
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 6: get a new contract somewhere and we know where that ends.

478
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: But this is why Richard has to act right.

479
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: He has to. He just has to roll over the clause.

480
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: So he stays, yeah, he just has to get it done.

481
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 3: He's just to everything we've said about lou Wise. Importance

482
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 3: for that team during balls of talent, huge talent needs

483
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 3: to be at the footy class is the agent will.

484
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 7: Be knowing this agent, This agent will try and renegotiations,

485
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 7: letting someone.

486
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 6: Else who's runs through the proceedings. Last night with Jack

487
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 6: whiteon and at the judiciary.

488
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 7: Yea, the Bunnies went in super confident that they absolutely

489
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 7: had a case that it wasn't a shoulder charge. I've

490
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 7: got to say, watching the replay repeatedly and in slow

491
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 7: motion and over and over, I did start to think

492
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 7: that that might have been a little bit of wishful thinking.

493
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 7: It got a little bit different gravy when the NRL

494
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 7: prosecutor put a little bit of heat on Jack White

495
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 7: and about why he was just letting his lawyer answer

496
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 7: all the questions and why he didn't personally want to

497
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 7: be cross interrogated by the NRL. But Judiciary Chairman Jeff Bell,

498
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 7: he took umbrage at that. He really disliked it, and

499
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 7: he actually advised the panel, he said, listen, forget all

500
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 7: of that. That absolutely holds no sway in terms of

501
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 7: what decision you're going to come do. But then we

502
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 7: figured out that last time, one of the last timestry

503
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 7: was when he'd been charged with biting and he was

504
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 7: cross interrogated by the NRL Council at that time and

505
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 7: he asked him how many games did you play of NRL?

506
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 5: There might have been a little bit of background.

507
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: That's the normal question made Jimmy get when we write

508
00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: a story, it's a pet hates, isn't it?

509
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 6: For of course don't I was going to say something

510
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 6: the spoon possibly looms for the Bunnies.

511
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 4: What's what's gone wrong?

512
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 6: Well, well, you know we know they've had heaps of injuries,

513
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 6: but we didn't quite think they get the spoon right.

514
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying they will, but there are a chance.

515
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 7: The way they fought against Cronella on Saturday night, I

516
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 7: don't think they will get the spoon breath. It's going

517
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 7: to come down to around twenty three they play the Gold

518
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 7: Coast Titans.

519
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 5: Therefore childress in that they still.

520
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 7: Have one buy to come the Bunny, so there's an

521
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 7: additional set of points there. I don't think wayn Bennett's

522
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 7: never had a spoon in his tenure coaching in the

523
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 7: NRL or prior to South Wales Rugby League Premiership.

524
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 5: He won't want it. He'll come and he'll hunt you

525
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 5: down and try.

526
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 9: And click no.

527
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 8: But you know it's going to be a coaching effort.

528
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 8: And we know they've got injuries, but where they were

529
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 8: last year, no South Fain.

530
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 9: Would have believed that they'd be in the situation.

531
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 11: But.

532
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 8: Any injury, you know what that But like when Wayne

533
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 8: comes to the club and comes back and how fit

534
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 8: they were looking at the beginning of the year, you

535
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 8: don't ever envisage that.

536
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: Let me say this, we hear so much about those

537
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: players loving the fact that they're being able to be

538
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: coached by Wayne Bennett, and certainly some of the younger

539
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: players just can't believe that they are having this opportunity

540
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: to be coached by a super coach. I just wonder

541
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: you boys have been in the dressing room over your

542
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: career on Now that it's on the line and Wayne's

543
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: never picked up the wooden spoon, do these players start

544
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: to talk to each other about, ain't going to sec

545
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: We've got to do this for the coach, like we

546
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: have to protect that.

547
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: Like that's that is an unbelievable statistic.

548
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 8: If you're not trying to avoid this, each every dressing

549
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 8: room is in the same situation. No one wants Like

550
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 8: I remember when Brisbane got their first and I think

551
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 8: fans went through like three or four hundred spoons on

552
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 8: their training field right to go around middle and so

553
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 8: it's like it's said, it's no player would have didn't

554
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 8: get one to do.

555
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 4: I think I did at one point. Likely I've got

556
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: a bad memory, but I'm pretty sure I did it.

557
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I did.

558
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 6: Wayne Bennett has spoken to the curermals Peter Biddell. Let's

559
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 6: take a look at what he had to say. If

560
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 6: Gord he can just move back a little bit, it's

561
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 6: not going to work for us if we're having crisis

562
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 6: meetings every freaking day and carrying on about where we

563
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 6: are in the competition. I won the Wooden Spoon coaching

564
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 6: in the Brisbane League, so this doesn't wire me in

565
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 6: the least.

566
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: The team is here.

567
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 6: If we get our best team on the field next year,

568
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 6: we can do something. So it still remains very optimistic.

569
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 6: He said he's had the spoon before. There must have

570
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: been early day. Our brothers wouldn't have been that. Can

571
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 6: the current roster that he's got everyone on the field,

572
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 6: can they fight for premiership next year?

573
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: No?

574
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: No, no, I need to make and this is my concern.

575
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: The unless there's a huge domino effect come this November one,

576
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: once with Bears start to get active, there's no there's

577
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: no big apples to be picked as far as what

578
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: the Bunnies need and I think in the forward pack

579
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: and enforcerre upfront.

580
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: And the and the and the.

581
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: Player market just won't open up enough next year for

582
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: the Bunnies and it might just might have to be

583
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 3: another two seasons away.

584
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 4: What do you think the miss and hoops on the

585
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: same page year, Or.

586
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 7: To be brutally honest, their recruitment's been diabolical and you

587
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 7: can go all the way back to the decision where

588
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 7: they did let Adam Reynolds go to Dave's point, they

589
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 7: haven't had an enforcer probably since Sam Burgess retired and

590
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 7: then Tom and George were moved on from the club

591
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 7: and the Lewis Dodd experiment unfortunately it just it hasn't worked.

592
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 7: So they've now their biggest issue over the summer will

593
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 7: be that they've got to move Todd somehow, pay as

594
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 7: minimal as possible and whatever they've got left over and

595
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 7: change out of the seven hundred that he's on, or

596
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 7: they've got to go to the market and they've got

597
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 7: to try and get some front rowers.

598
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: Gordy, what do you think they're missing?

599
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 9: Well, they're players, are one, but they're very light on

600
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 9: in the middle of the ruck.

601
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then you guys just mentioned it like Fordsman

602
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 8: matches like you look at the Raiders where they with

603
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 8: Tarpani and Josh Papal, I think are won two punches

604
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 8: critical and this day and age.

605
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 6: Jen know is your key playing matchups for around twenty

606
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 6: two things to Ossie broadbander Combank Stadium.

607
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 7: Sunday Jerome Lewie on the left edge for the West

608
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 7: Tigers up against the newly minted Bulldogs halfback Lachland Galvin.

609
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: Saturday Night Boys Live and exclusive on Fox Roosters mainly

610
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 3: Sammy Walker against his future teammate Daily Cherry Evans.

611
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 4: Yeah for that suit Saturday.

612
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 6: Just before we go, sad news today with the passing

613
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 6: of Johnny May. He's at the age of seventy eight.

614
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 6: Not good news, guys.

615
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 7: Champion halfback won a premiership with the Seagulls nine and

616
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 7: seventy three, then went to the Roosters under Jack Gibson

617
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 7: and went back to back titles in seventy four seventy four.

618
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: Sad day for the Roosters.

619
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 6: Both all right from everyone here at Fox League. Would

620
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 6: like to pass on our condolences to the Maze family

621
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 6: after the tragic passing of Johnny Today