WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 17 June

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<v Speaker 1>Lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Late Debate. Well, thanks for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>on the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and freyer Leitch coming

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<v Speaker 3>up tonight. Remember Pamela Anderson from Baywatch Days, Well, who

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<v Speaker 3>says Hollywood is agus She's back on the big screen.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll show you a preview from her upcoming movie a

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<v Speaker 3>little later. That'll excite the teenage boys that we're talking about. Plus,

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<v Speaker 3>when we look at what's making news tomorrow, pressure on

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Albinezi to lift defense spending after he missed his

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<v Speaker 3>scheduled meeting with Donald Trump at the G.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven, and Israel takes out Iran's.

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<v Speaker 3>Military chief on the fifth day of fighting with Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Shortly, but first, you know, I remember growing up and

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<v Speaker 3>being able to easily recognize all the cars on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>You had Ford's, Holden's, Toyotas, Mazdas, Mitsubishi's. But these days

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<v Speaker 3>I hardly recognize any of them, and it feels like

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<v Speaker 3>there's a new brand pretty much every other week.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. If you feel the same as I do, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not imagining it.

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<v Speaker 3>Australian roads are increasingly dominated by Chinese vehicles. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>one in every six cars sold in this country is

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<v Speaker 3>now a Chinese vehicle. In fact, in the past twelve months,

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<v Speaker 3>ten new brands from China have been introduced to our market.

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<v Speaker 3>Consider the pace of change when it comes to cars

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<v Speaker 3>in this country. Back in nineteen seventy we had a

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<v Speaker 3>population of twelve and a half million people. We manufactured

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<v Speaker 3>in our own factories four hundred and seventy five thousand cars.

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<v Speaker 3>We exported cars to other countries. But in the space

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<v Speaker 3>of just fifty years we've gone from manufacturing and exporting

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<v Speaker 3>vehicles to importing every single car on our roads, and

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<v Speaker 3>increasingly from China.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the question. Is that a problem and if

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<v Speaker 2>it is, Caleb, what do we do about it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, at this point there's not much we can do

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<v Speaker 4>about it. I mean, it's an interesting point you raise

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<v Speaker 4>about the loss of manufacturing in this country, which, of

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<v Speaker 4>course you know we all know quite acutely, particularly when

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<v Speaker 4>Holden shut down in the great state of South Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there are people who lost their jobs at

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<v Speaker 4>Olden who never got a job afterwards because they'd spent

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<v Speaker 4>their whole career working in a car manufacturing plant. They're

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<v Speaker 4>in their mid to late fifties. What hope did they

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<v Speaker 4>ever have of getting another job afterwards. We used to

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<v Speaker 4>make everything in Australia. Refrigerators, washing machines, Kelvinator, Westinghouse were

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<v Speaker 4>all manufacturing here. In fact, if you go to the

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<v Speaker 4>National Motor Museum in Birdwood in South Australia, you can

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<v Speaker 4>see a car built by a washing machine company. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>we used to do these sorts of things in Australia

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<v Speaker 4>and then it all disappeared. And of course we had

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<v Speaker 4>the introduction of Japanese cars in the eighties and.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone said, oh, want this jap crap. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>it turned.

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<v Speaker 4>Out that Japanese cars were quite reliable. But of course

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest Japanese manufacturer, Toyota, built cars here in Australia. Ford,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, was an American company, but they built cars

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<v Speaker 4>here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Holden was an Australian company.

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<v Speaker 4>Brought out by GM, which is an American company, but

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<v Speaker 4>they still built cars in Australia. What we're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>now is total imports. Every car in this country is imported.

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<v Speaker 4>We have given so much manufacturing to China specifically, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't mind so much a car that's imported from Japan

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<v Speaker 4>or Germany or elsewhere in Europe or Korea, countries that

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<v Speaker 4>we're pretty sure we're not going to have any sort

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<v Speaker 4>of military conflicts.

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<v Speaker 1>With these days.

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<v Speaker 4>But China is a country that we might have military

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<v Speaker 4>conflict with.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a.

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<v Speaker 4>Situation where nearly everything now, including cars, comes from China.

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<v Speaker 4>What happens on the day that war comes and our

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<v Speaker 4>supplies are totally reliant on China, they can turn the

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<v Speaker 4>tap off like that, and then we are stuffed. We

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<v Speaker 4>have become too reliant on China, and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>is the greatest danger of this, and I think there's.

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<v Speaker 5>A deeper issue here as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, the future potential for conflict is concerning for our

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<v Speaker 6>supply chains, but the danger has already arrived with the

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<v Speaker 6>thousands of Chinese cars that are already on Australian streets.

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<v Speaker 6>Biden banned Chinese and Russian cars from going into the US.

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<v Speaker 6>If Biden, if Joe Biden is banning something and actually

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<v Speaker 6>taking action.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's really bad.

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<v Speaker 6>And part of the problem with these cars is the

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<v Speaker 6>amount of data harvesting they can do.

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<v Speaker 5>They can see your location.

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<v Speaker 6>They have cameras, so they can see you while you're driving,

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<v Speaker 6>they can see where you're driving, and under Chinese law,

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<v Speaker 6>Chinese companies are legally obligated to pass that data back

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<v Speaker 6>onto the CCP. So we are hopelessly exposed. But it's

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<v Speaker 6>even more concerning because our Minister for cyber Security, Tony Burke,

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<v Speaker 6>himself drives a Chinese car and he's been questioned on this,

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<v Speaker 6>what if you're going to sensitive sites, how much data

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<v Speaker 6>are they getting from you? What steps are you taking

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<v Speaker 6>to mitigate the national security risk of this? And the

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<v Speaker 6>typical answer will take that on notice, no answer, And

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<v Speaker 6>this is happening from our ministers down and we are

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<v Speaker 6>so exposed.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the issue with automobiles now because they're not

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<v Speaker 3>like they were, but they're basically computers on wheels now,

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<v Speaker 3>hence the national security risk that was not a factor

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We wouldn't have been even thinking these thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>But now suddenly it's not just about our manufacturing base

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<v Speaker 3>that's been lost, it's not just about supply chain being interrupted.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about national security and it's a big problem. But

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<v Speaker 3>whether anything will be done about it, if Tony Burke

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<v Speaker 3>won't change his habits because of this you can't expect

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else in there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And Chris Bowen's also been flogging Chinese cars on

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<v Speaker 6>his social media because of course the EV tax credit

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<v Speaker 6>is one of Labour's proudest achievements, so he's literally flogging

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<v Speaker 6>byd Chinese cars as the minister for the Australian government.

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<v Speaker 4>And imagine as well, because of course data is collected centrally,

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<v Speaker 4>and we know it's being collected centrally because you've had

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<v Speaker 4>car manufacturing companies actually selling data to insurance companies so

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<v Speaker 4>they can track how you drive your vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>When you go through anew your insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, imagine if mister Jijinping wakes up one day

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<v Speaker 4>and says, can you just go and hackle those cars

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<v Speaker 4>we've sent out there and make them go one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>mile an hour? I mean, these are the things that

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<v Speaker 4>they could conceivably do. And as for being watched with

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<v Speaker 4>the cameras Tesla was doing that, we know of a

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<v Speaker 4>case where they had had footage. They'd taken footage from

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<v Speaker 4>the camera on someone's car where they'd approached their car

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<v Speaker 4>in the nutty and this footage had been shared around

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<v Speaker 4>in chat groups inside of Tesla and that got out

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<v Speaker 4>and they had to deal with that. So if they're

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<v Speaker 4>doing it at Tesla, don't think that they're not doing

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<v Speaker 4>it over in China. While we're talking about the Chinese

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<v Speaker 4>infiltration of the West.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, TikTok, you'll remember, that's another.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing that Biden wanted to ban in the United States

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<v Speaker 4>that was meant to come into effect on January the nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>It did come into effect for just a few days,

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<v Speaker 4>and of course President Trump came to power and he

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<v Speaker 4>put a stop to all of that. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 4>was the worst twenty four odd hours that I think

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<v Speaker 4>many people had ever experienced in their lives. Normally, when

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<v Speaker 4>something happens, I would get on TikTok AND's are complaining

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<v Speaker 4>and I can't even do that.

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<v Speaker 2>We learned so much about things we didn't know about, opportunities,

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<v Speaker 2>places to eat, movies to watch, books to read.

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<v Speaker 1>I just seen the video of the girl that made

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<v Speaker 1>the Renegade dance, and I'm curing because I read a

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<v Speaker 1>comment that was like the algorithm saying good biteers, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this app was literally supposed to be my way out.

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<v Speaker 1>So sad.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, of course, the deal was that if TikTok wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to avoid a bite Dance Switch is parent company of TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok wanted to avoid being banned in the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>they had to divest to top that was being used

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States, so therefore it wouldn't be linked

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<v Speaker 4>to China and then data wouldn't be sent back to

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<v Speaker 4>the CCP. Trump said, look, we'll put a three month

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<v Speaker 4>stay on this and we'll try to come to an

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<v Speaker 4>agreement where fifty percent of TikTok is owned by.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States.

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<v Speaker 4>That came up in March, and he then extended it again,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it will come up on June the nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 4>in just two days. There still has been no sale

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<v Speaker 4>of any part of TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump has said tonight that he thinks he will

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<v Speaker 4>probably extend the deal again so they can.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to find a buyer.

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<v Speaker 4>But as far as I'm concerned, TikTok has had far

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<v Speaker 4>more time that it was originally offered to get this done.

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<v Speaker 4>They have not been able to sell it off. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think they have any interest in selling it off

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<v Speaker 4>because China thinks it's far more valuable to own a

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<v Speaker 4>service like TikTok because it gives us all this data

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<v Speaker 4>on the people who are using it, gives them access

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<v Speaker 4>to the mobile phones with the people who are using it,

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<v Speaker 4>and more importantly, it gives them influence in the West

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<v Speaker 4>because they get to control the algorithms and decide what

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<v Speaker 4>people in the West are looking at. They don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to sell it. They are playing Trump for a fool here.

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<v Speaker 4>And he ought to turn around and say, if you

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<v Speaker 4>haven't been able to sell it by now, too bloody bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Your banned until you've done it.

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<v Speaker 3>So what hope do we have dealing with Chinese cars

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<v Speaker 3>if we can't even deal with a Chinese social media app.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the test for Donald Trump, who of

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<v Speaker 3>course made a big song and dance about the dangers

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<v Speaker 3>and the evils of TikTok, only to then change his

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<v Speaker 3>mind when of the Pido might be helping him with

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<v Speaker 3>younger voters. Have he extended the deadline a couple of times?

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<v Speaker 3>If he extends it a third time, does anyone really

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<v Speaker 3>believe he's serious?

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<v Speaker 2>But he should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember this clip from US sixty minutes talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that the Chinese produce one version of TikTok spinach

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<v Speaker 3>if you like, for their own children, and yet leave

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<v Speaker 3>us with a version of TikTok, which is like a

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<v Speaker 3>drug that's messing with our kids' minds.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're under fourteen years old. They show you science

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<v Speaker 7>experiments you can do at home. Is exhibits patriotism videos

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<v Speaker 7>and educational videos, and they also limit it to only

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<v Speaker 7>forty minutes per day. Now, they don't ship that version

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<v Speaker 7>of TikTok to the rest of the world, so it's

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<v Speaker 7>almost like they recognize that technology is influencing kids development

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<v Speaker 7>and they make their domestic version a spinach version of TikTok,

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<v Speaker 7>while they've shipped the opium version to the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>When you've got a social media app that is so

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<v Speaker 3>obviously being used to influence Western young people for bad,

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<v Speaker 3>why wouldn't you just get rid of it rather than

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<v Speaker 3>carry on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not of the deal.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it is a bit of a charade because realistically

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<v Speaker 6>there is about a zero percent chance that TikTok will

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<v Speaker 6>actually manage to find a buyer. The first issue is

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<v Speaker 6>it is so expensive, So the app is valued at

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<v Speaker 6>around between one hundred and two hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>To put that into.

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<v Speaker 6>Perspective, Elon Musk bought the whole of Twitter for forty

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<v Speaker 6>five four billion dollars, so you're talking about something that

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<v Speaker 6>is double the size. The other problem is that algorithms

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<v Speaker 6>to the CCP are actually considered a core national asset.

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<v Speaker 5>So algorithms have even.

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<v Speaker 6>Been put on a list of restricted technology, which would

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<v Speaker 6>require the CCP to consent to the sale of it

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<v Speaker 6>to any Western buyer, which naturally they're not going to

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<v Speaker 6>do because, as you've pointed out, they have so much

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<v Speaker 6>power and influence in the Western world through these algorithms.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you have the other factor of that there

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<v Speaker 6>are simply no Western companies technologically able to run TikTok.

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<v Speaker 5>Microsoft has tried and back down.

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<v Speaker 6>Oracle thought about it but couldn't. Meta would or would

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<v Speaker 6>have a monopoly on social media if they did take

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<v Speaker 6>it on, so it probably wouldn't be allowed to I

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<v Speaker 6>think the best bet for someone to buy TikTok would

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<v Speaker 6>be Elon Musk, but I don't think he's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be doing Trump any favors anymore, and that was probably

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<v Speaker 6>the only option.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to ask though, as someone who uses chickens

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<v Speaker 4>compied into it, do you worry about the data that

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<v Speaker 4>the CCP is harvesting on you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I need to get a bernafhone. I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>the solution. And because my approach has always been TikTok

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<v Speaker 6>is such a powerful app in that you can go

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<v Speaker 6>viral very quickly, you can reach a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 6>My TikTok's during the Voice referendum got over four million

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<v Speaker 6>views and similarly during the last federal election, so it

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<v Speaker 6>is very powerful.

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<v Speaker 5>As long as young people are there, we have to

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<v Speaker 5>use it. But I should take some more precautions.

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<v Speaker 3>But your Twitter feed was spinach for Australian young Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 6>Up there upholding the quality of TikTok. But of course

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<v Speaker 6>the other impact of social media on kids is mental health,

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<v Speaker 6>and mental health is an issue that seems to be exploding.

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<v Speaker 5>In our country.

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<v Speaker 6>Fifteen percent of six year old boys are now on

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<v Speaker 6>the NDIS, with issues mostly around autism and being neurodivergent.

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<v Speaker 6>But a pre eminent psychologist, Pat McGrory wrote an interesting

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<v Speaker 6>opinion piece today where he essentially says what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 6>is the rise of unmet need and met unneed in

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<v Speaker 6>our mental health system. So what he means by that

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<v Speaker 6>the unmet need, people with serious mental illnesses like schizophrenia

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<v Speaker 6>are not experiencing not having the same access to support

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<v Speaker 6>that they did when things like institutional care existed. Those

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<v Speaker 6>were obviously dismantled in the nineties and nothing similar has

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<v Speaker 6>replaced them. So people who really do need structured environments

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<v Speaker 6>aren't getting that support. But on the flip side, people

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<v Speaker 6>with low levels of mental illness like autism or depression

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<v Speaker 6>and anxiety are getting a lot of support through the

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<v Speaker 6>bloated NDIS. So what he points out is there is

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<v Speaker 6>a really unfair mismatch in need versus support provided by

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<v Speaker 6>our system, and it's the most vulnerable again that are

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<v Speaker 6>paying the price. And now, he says, our mental health

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<v Speaker 6>system is like an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff.

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<v Speaker 6>There is no support to stop them jumping off that.

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<v Speaker 4>And what he's called out is that there are people

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<v Speaker 4>in the system now who really shouldn't be in the system.

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<v Speaker 4>He writes in the column, rates of diagnosis of ADHD

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<v Speaker 4>are also surging, driven in part by a welcome catch

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<v Speaker 4>up for historical underdiagnosis, but equally by a wave of misdiagnosis,

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<v Speaker 4>which includes substantial met and need. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>severely disabled older adults with severe mental health illnesses are

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<v Speaker 4>locked out of vital health and psychosocial care. And basically

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<v Speaker 4>what he's saying is that the divide between these people

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<v Speaker 4>has actually grown. And of course we talk about, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>mental health is such a big issue now and we're

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<v Speaker 4>spending more mo on mental health. Well, he points out

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<v Speaker 4>that the proportion of health funding that is spent hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>really changed in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers of.

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<v Speaker 4>People committing suicide in this country are not really moving

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<v Speaker 4>because you have all these people coming into the system,

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<v Speaker 4>and he points out largely come from wealthier parts of

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<v Speaker 4>the country who can afford to access mental health care,

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<v Speaker 4>but in the process of clogging up the mental health

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<v Speaker 4>system because they think they have anxiety, or they think

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<v Speaker 4>they have ADHD, or they think they have depression or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>because they've been told that everything that they experience in

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<v Speaker 4>their life has to be medicalized in some way, as

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<v Speaker 4>opposed to it being just, you know, sometimes part of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who need real care and.

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<v Speaker 4>Could be a danger to themselves and to others cannot

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<v Speaker 4>get it. What he is saying, and he's been on

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<v Speaker 4>this case for a very long time. Of course, was

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<v Speaker 4>Australian of the Year in twenty ten, is that we

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<v Speaker 4>are just not up to scratch. We say we care

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<v Speaker 4>about mental health. We don't care about mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>We care about.

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<v Speaker 4>Mental health being fashionable, and we have you know, are

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<v Speaker 4>you Okay? Day and they give out some cupcakes in

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<v Speaker 4>the workplace and say, oh, if you're feeling depressed, go

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<v Speaker 4>and talk to someone. But if you have a real

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<v Speaker 4>mental health problem and you want to get help in

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<v Speaker 4>this country, it's nigh on impossible. Try to take yourself

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<v Speaker 4>to a public hospital and get help for mental health.

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<v Speaker 4>It is impossible. I know from personal experience, not me

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<v Speaker 4>going to a hospital, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know people who have like they have gone to a hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>Desperate for help, and they cannot get it because we

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<v Speaker 4>cannot provide it because we have too many people clogging

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<v Speaker 4>up the system, and we don't spend the money where

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<v Speaker 4>it's need to be spent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is an absolute disgrace.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you want to know how bad it is,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the conversation about what are we doing for

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<v Speaker 3>people with schizophrenia. That conversation really didn't exist much until

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<v Speaker 3>the Bondai a Junction stabbing, and then when it came

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<v Speaker 3>to pass that we realize this is a guy who's

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<v Speaker 3>slipped through the system multiple times, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a conversation. It took something like that to get

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<v Speaker 3>people talking about this issue, and the labor government haven't helped.

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<v Speaker 3>They cut by half the number of Medicare subsidized mental

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<v Speaker 3>health appointments you can make from twenty to ten. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking to a psychologists recently who said the number.

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<v Speaker 2>Of people requiring.

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<v Speaker 3>Psychology appointments since the pandemic just exploded. But the frustration,

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<v Speaker 3>she said was you get just a few sessions with people,

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<v Speaker 3>it's enough, she said, to put a band aid on it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you send them.

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<v Speaker 3>Back out and you just know they're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>ongoing problems, either with themselves or with other people.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's it. There's no more funding, and they just

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<v Speaker 2>move on to the next one. So it's frustration all.

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<v Speaker 3>Around because it's much easier to do that are you

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<v Speaker 3>okay day everyone feels good about themselves than to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with the really hard pressing issues.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>And the other problem that I've heard from psychologists about

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<v Speaker 6>the increased subsidies is the challenges It drains resources from

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<v Speaker 6>the psychology and psychiatrist profession, but it's not necessarily going

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<v Speaker 6>to the most vulnerable And the interesting point that was

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<v Speaker 6>raised in this article is that when they were called

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<v Speaker 6>asylum centers mental asylums, but really structured institutional care for

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<v Speaker 6>people with severe mental illness.

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<v Speaker 5>When those were disbanded in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 6>Everyone promised that some new revolutionary model of integrated community

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<v Speaker 6>care would happen. But it just hasn't, and so they've

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<v Speaker 6>broken that promise and now the people who are most

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<v Speaker 6>in need have been left with nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, let's go to the Middle East, where everybody is

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<v Speaker 3>on tetorhooks.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>The Israeli Defense Forces and her Masterol eagerly waiting the

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<v Speaker 3>outcome of tonight's Northern Beaches Council meeting, where our councilors

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<v Speaker 3>here in Sydney will debate whether or not they should

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<v Speaker 3>call for a ceasefire in Gaza. The motion been moved

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<v Speaker 3>by a Greens counselor you're not surprised at all by that,

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<v Speaker 3>are you, Ethan Henjik, who is just twenty one years old.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not sure Cayleb whether this is because he's

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one or because he's a Green. Maybe you put

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<v Speaker 3>those two things together and you get ridiculous motions or

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<v Speaker 3>he's a bit thick, or it could be that a

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<v Speaker 3>combination of all three no doubts. So this Greens Council

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<v Speaker 3>at twenty one years old, as I said, he's having

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<v Speaker 3>the Northern Beaches Council debate tonight to call for a ceasefire,

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<v Speaker 3>to boycott Israel companies and get this to formally commend

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<v Speaker 3>activists aligned with the anti Israel movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, he says, this vote is very important.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's one other thing on the agenda tonight in

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<v Speaker 3>the Northern Beaches Council, and that's a twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 3>rate rise. Now those two things are connected. I'll let

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<v Speaker 3>the Greens councilor explain. In his own words, he says,

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<v Speaker 3>considering we may be asking residents for an increase in rates,

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<v Speaker 3>this meeting is the perfect time to put our community

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<v Speaker 3>at ease. That counts is not complicit what in this

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<v Speaker 3>complex international issue. Because of course, if you're living on

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<v Speaker 3>the Northern Beaches of Sydney, you don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To copp a twenty five percent rate rise.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you know that your council members are calling

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<v Speaker 3>for a ceasefire in gas, I tell you it helps

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<v Speaker 3>you deal with that twenty five percent rise. Far more

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<v Speaker 3>easily caleber. Everybody knows this to be the case.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gone, I'd take a twenty five percent increase in

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<v Speaker 4>my council rates any day to know that my council

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<v Speaker 4>really cares about geopolitics. I mean, how dumbed do you

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<v Speaker 4>have to be? And by the way, how slow do

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<v Speaker 4>you have to be? How slow are they in the

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<v Speaker 4>Northern Beaches. I think we're up to twenty twenty months

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<v Speaker 4>since since the war started October twenty twenty three, and

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<v Speaker 4>now we get.

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<v Speaker 1>A motion at the council to talk about it. Please

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<v Speaker 1>stick to your knitting. This is none of your business.

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<v Speaker 4>Roads rates rubbish, like I know why they do it

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<v Speaker 4>because councils populated and you can you know, he's twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a member of the Greens, so clearly he has

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<v Speaker 4>political ambition and he can't quite hack the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>in order to work up to where he wants to get,

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<v Speaker 4>which is state or federal politics, is to do his

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<v Speaker 4>dues in local.

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<v Speaker 1>Government for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>He's really care about the issues of local government. He's

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<v Speaker 4>just doing it so that when he goes for pre

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<v Speaker 4>selection one day, it'll look good on the piece when

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<v Speaker 4>he gives it to the members to say, pre select me.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't actually care about the roads or the rape

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<v Speaker 4>or the rubbish. He cares about other stuff, So he's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to insert his pet politics into the council.

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<v Speaker 3>Go away, say if the Liberal Party cared enough about

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<v Speaker 3>the people of the Northern Beaches, they would have got

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<v Speaker 3>their nominations on time and we probably wouldn't have this

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<v Speaker 3>Greens guy whose previous work experience.

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<v Speaker 2>According to other council members.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if this is in jest or if

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<v Speaker 3>it's true, but Vincent de Lusa, an independent councilor there

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<v Speaker 3>with the Green, said this immature twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 3>whose highest experience is working at conducting fried chicken, and

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<v Speaker 3>nothing wrong with using the Northern Beaches Council to climb

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<v Speaker 3>the Green.

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<v Speaker 5>Political No, but you will laugh at this motion.

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<v Speaker 6>And while I'm not one for pro Palestine motions, especially

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<v Speaker 6>ones that don't mention Hamas or bringing the hostages home,

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<v Speaker 6>I will say there is one aspect of this that

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<v Speaker 6>I particularly like, and that's where he says the Northern

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<v Speaker 6>Beaches Council needs to offer targeted support to Palestinian refugees

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<v Speaker 6>on the beaches. One I would like to know how

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<v Speaker 6>many Palestinian refugees are there on the beaches and if

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<v Speaker 6>there are none, could we take this as an offer

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<v Speaker 6>to host the three thousand gardens who've just been granted

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<v Speaker 6>tourist visas, because I think the Northern Beaches would.

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<v Speaker 5>Be a perfect place to put them.

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<v Speaker 6>And if after receiving three thousand gardens, the Northern Beaches

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<v Speaker 6>still wants to vote in the Greens councilor I will

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<v Speaker 6>be very shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I tell you, if you think the Northern Beaches

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<v Speaker 3>Council is bad, it could be worse. You could be

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<v Speaker 3>living in Melbourne, where the Merybeck Council has just realized

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years after the fact they overcharged two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>forty eight thousand motorists by twelve million dollars on parking fines. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the reason why it's taken them so long

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<v Speaker 3>to realize they've overcharged locals twelve million dollars for parking

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<v Speaker 3>fines is they were otherwise occupied occupied on things like well,

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<v Speaker 3>they changed the name of their council area. They changed

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<v Speaker 3>it from Morland to Mirriback. Spent half a million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>doing that because Morland was associated with a Jamaican slave trader.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in April, they spent forty five thousand dollars on

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<v Speaker 3>Pride crossings. They in twenty twenty three came up with

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<v Speaker 3>an eleven point resolution on the conflict in Gaza, so

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<v Speaker 3>little wonder it's taken them so long to realize. Back

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty thirteen, they overcharged residents by twelve million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>They've promised to repay the money, but get this calib

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<v Speaker 3>it's an opt in refund system. So rather than them

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<v Speaker 3>going to residents who have been over charged, they are

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<v Speaker 3>waiting to see residents come to them, what twelve years

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<v Speaker 3>after the event, for a refund on the money that

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 3>they were not supposed to have paid.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a scam and mary Beck, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>is not a real term when they came up with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I was at the Herald Soun in Melbourne at the

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<v Speaker 4>time and one local Indigenous elder said that he'd scoured

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 4>through the local language and he could not find the

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 4>word beck anywhere, that the closest translation was probably actually

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 4>big bb ik, and that the word they come up with,

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 4>mary Beck, which Brent me rocky country, is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Grammatically correct in the language. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>They did a great job when they went out to

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<v Speaker 4>be culturally sensitive.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a scam.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea that a council or any level of government

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<v Speaker 4>for that matter, can find you more than they are

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<v Speaker 4>allowed to and they think it was about fifty dollars

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 4>per fine above what they should have been charging for

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 4>twelve years, twelve odd.

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Million dollars more than they we're allowed to ask for.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they say it's all good because we've set

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<v Speaker 4>up a bit on our website where you can go

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<v Speaker 4>and apply to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Your money back.

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean they should be compelled by law to give

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 4>this money back to people. How can you take more

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 4>money from people than they owe to you and then

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 4>say well, you've got twelve months to claim it back.

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>That's theft and.

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<v Speaker 5>No one's going to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>Who on earth is monitoring the council website in Merrieback

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 6>and will happen to assemble across the fact that, oh,

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.360
<v Speaker 6>maybe that one time I was fined a decade ago,

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 6>I may have been overcharged.

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:40.959
<v Speaker 5>Let me just apply and with that receipt.

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 2>But it gets worse than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's imagine they do pay back the twelve million, right,

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 3>what council these days, has got twelve million dollars down

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 3>the back of the couch. Where will they get the

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 3>money from?

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb? I reckon they'll probably add a little bit more to.

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>The rates, you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>They should be banned from doing so they should have

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 4>to pay for this quite literally in all the money,

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<v Speaker 4>and then have to deal with the fact that they

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 4>don't have the money to make up for him and parsulably,

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 4>they've already spent that twelve million dollars, So good luck

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.719
<v Speaker 4>to them. If you didn't overcharge people, you wouldn't have

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 4>a problem. Speaking of overcharging overseas in Europe, they're going

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 4>tropo at the moment about all the tourists who are

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 4>coming over. Of course, it's summer in Europe now and

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 4>tourists are flocking there to soak up some of the

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 4>warm weather. Made de Mands just done two weeks in

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 4>Morocco and then arrived in Spain the other day, and

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 4>he's thoroughly enjoying that.

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Spoke to him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was last night at about ten am

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 4>local time. It was already over thirty degrees. He was

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 4>about to jump into pool, which sounded quite pleasant. As

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 4>I was driving into work here in Chile, Sydney, but

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 4>they're angry. Would you believe you can see it on

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 4>the screen here with all these tourists. They've been protesting

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 4>in Spain, in Barcelona, They've been protesting over in Milan,

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 4>in Venice, Lisbon, Naples, on and on it goes because

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 4>there are too many tourists, the locals say.

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>They say they've been over by.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 4>Tourists and everything is now far too expensive. They can't

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 4>afford coffee, apparently, they can't afford to go out to eat,

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 4>they can't afford to buy an alcoholic drink because of

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 4>course they're jacking up all the prices in the restaurants

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 4>and the cafes to cater to the cashed up tourists

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 4>have come in with all their money from the UK

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 4>and Australia, etc. And I can kind of understand bother

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 4>they were shooting tourists with water pistols, which is actually

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 4>quite funny. I can kind of understand where they're coming from,

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 4>because I get it. If you're a local and all

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden you're essentially priced out of your own

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.719
<v Speaker 4>city because the city is now overrun with tourists who

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 4>are awash with money, you would go well, what the

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 4>hell this is my town.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I've lived here my whole life. I should be able

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to afford to live here.

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 4>And Barcelona had twenty six million tourists last year. It's

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 4>a city of one point six million people, so that

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 4>these are sizeable numbers of people. But are they not

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 4>biting the hand it feeds them to some degree? Because

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 4>to tourism is huge business for Europe. So you can say, look,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 4>it's become too expensive to live here, and I don't

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 4>like that.

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>But if you took the.

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Tourists away, what underpins the economy, particularly this time of

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 4>year for these countries, they'd find themselves in recession, would

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 4>they not?

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 5>Exactly?

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 6>And in those Mediterranean states where they were protesting Spain, Portugal, Italy,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 6>tourism makes up to twenty percent of their GDP twenty percent,

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 6>millions and millions of jobs. If tourism was taken away,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 6>if those cashed up Aussies and Brits didn't get to

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 6>go to Spain, then they would also suffer. So, yes,

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 6>things are more expensive, but you're also making more money.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 6>And tourism is also critical for Europe because they have

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 6>barely any innovation. Their productivity is lagging they're extremely overregulated.

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 6>It's hard to do business in any other sector other

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 6>than tourism and agriculture and a lot of these Mediterranean countries.

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 6>So if they don't have that, what else do they have?

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Do these protesters want to get out onto the farm?

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 5>I doubt it.

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I've got a lot of sympathy for these guys.

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned the stats, right, So Barcelona one point six

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 3>million people living there, twenty six million tourists a year.

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Santorini fifteen thousand people living there, three point four million

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 3>tourists a year, Lisbon half a million people living there,

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 3>six million tourists a year, compared to Sydney five and

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 3>a half million people living here three point five million

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 3>tourists a year.

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 2>So I can understand why they'd be upset.

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 3>So they're trying to take some measures to counter this, right,

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 3>So they're not anti tourists, they're just anti mass tourism

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>that is unregulated and unchecked. In Venice, they've introduced a

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 3>tourism tax to try and mitigate some of the lifestyle

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 3>factors that are impacted by huge numbers of people in Barcelona,

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 3>that put regulations on airbnbs to try and mitigate the

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 3>housing crisis caused by mass tourism. I like in Santorini,

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 3>they've actually regulated who can and can't ride on donkeys

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 3>because they had so many people arriving and needing to

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 3>go up the hill on donkeys. There were complaints from

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 3>locals that donkeys' spinal injuries were through the roof, and.

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 2>So now it's actually a regulation.

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Tourists who weigh one hundred killing rounds are not allowed

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 3>to ride on donkeys.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>No Yanks allowed.

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they're put in sub mitigating strategy. But I understand,

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>and the villain here is not the tourists.

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 3>The villain is the socialist governments who have stripped manufacturing,

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 3>gotten rid of all the jobs. They've created a massive

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.479
<v Speaker 3>welfare state and the only way to pay for it

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 3>now is to show off the ruins of their culture.

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 2>What about modern day now? What's happening now?

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 3>The villain is the socialist governments who've left these people

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 3>with not much option now to make abut them to

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 3>wait tables.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly right, And in that respect, I do feel

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 5>bad for them.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 6>Their city has basically become a theme park rather.

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Than while they're mad it is.

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, here's another interesting story also coming out of Europe.

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 6>Could sunlight become the next whapon and in global warfare? Well,

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 6>A leaked memos headed for Downing Street thinks it may.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 6>Technology is designed to combat global warming, mainly where you

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 6>reflect sunlight back.

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 5>Into the atmosphere could potentially.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 6>Be used by hostile powers in a form of geo

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 6>re engineering to disrupt climate crops and cause mass catastrophic

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 6>weather events. Essentially, it sounds pretty dire, but the UK

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 6>government is taking this so seriously that they're spending about

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 6>fifty seven million pounds on a research study into the

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 6>potential for geore engineering through sunlight by hostile foreign powers.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't.

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Want to do soular geoengineering, but we're worried that others

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>might do it, so we're going to research and learn

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 3>how to do.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>It ourselves, just so we know what our enemies might

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>get up to. But this is ridiculous.

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Really, Russia is going to destroy the UK by producing

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>an actual summer.

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 2>That's their strategy. And what will the UK do if

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Russia are successful.

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 3>They'll issue everyone with hats, so it'll be like the

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Iron Dome for people in Britain.

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:06.959
<v Speaker 2>They'll get a hat and they'll be fine.

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 3>To attack the UK with sun, you have to have

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 3>somen in the first instance.

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Even Doctor Evil wouldn't go with a plan this stupid.

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 4>No, you'd attack the UK or any other part of

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 4>the world by making it rain all the time, because

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 4>you can destroy the crops by doing that.

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>It's already raining in the UK all the time.

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.479
<v Speaker 4>I know. Well, they actually over the last couple of years,

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 4>they've had significant rainfall in the UK, to the point

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 4>where it's like been the worst farming conditions that they've

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 4>experienced in a century. Farmers saying we just can't do

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 4>this anymore because we can't plant anything, we can't pull

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 4>crops out of the ground, nothing is growing properly. So

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 4>they've had serious problems in the last few years. So

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 4>my worry would not be so much that they were

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 4>going to allow you to have sun, because it would

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 4>be rather pleasant. But if you can find a way

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.719
<v Speaker 4>to manipulate the weather to cause lots and lots and

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 4>lots and lots of rainfall, you can harm food security

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 4>quite significantly. If you cut off the supply of foods

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 4>from other parts of the world and then make it

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 4>rain three hundred and sixty five days a year in

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 4>the United Kingdom, they won't be able to sow seeds

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 4>in the ground, and they won't be able to go

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 4>they do this, that's what they want to do.

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I think you'd see the Russian plane flying across London,

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, spraying aerosol into the atmosphere, or well, seedy cloud.

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 4>Who knows what technology we might have in ten, twenty, thirty,

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 4>forty fifty years time. I just want to say though,

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the idea of weather modification we were told

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 4>was a conseriracy theory, right, it must be, you know,

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 4>column A for the conspiracy theorists one hundred, column B

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 4>for the people who say it's all.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Conspiracy theory zero at this point.

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 4>Because every time there's a conspiracy theory like weather.

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Modification, it seems to come true.

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 2>It's true. Let's go to Melbourne.

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Now, we're never glad about a business going out of business.

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>That's never a good thing.

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 3>But there has been a bakery in Melbourne that's just

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>shut their doors and it's a rather curious. The bakery

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 3>is called All Are Welcome. There's three locations around Melbourne.

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 3>This bakery came to our attention in the first instance

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 3>because they used to advertise that they would be open

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 3>on Australia Days. That they never called it Australia Day.

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 3>They advertised will be open on Invasion Day, and they

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 3>would put a little note on their Instagram adding sovereignty

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 3>never seeded.

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 2>So this bakery was very.

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Keen to be seen to be on the right side

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>of these sort of progressive issues. Well, now, sadly they've

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 3>gone out of business. But what's interesting is they've left

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 3>their approximately sixty staff almost four hundred thousand dollars out

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 3>of pocket. According to a report by the ABC, this

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 3>very woke bakery owes two hundred and forty three thousand

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 3>dollars in superannuation payments and about one hundred and twenty

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 3>five thousand dollars in leave entitlements to their staff. So

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 3>again not rejoicing they've gone out of business, Freyer, But

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 3>it's a little interesting when you're signaling how virtual you

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 3>are in terms of what happened in this country two

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 3>hundred years ago, but can't pay your staff the superannuation

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 3>they're owed today.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit hypocritical.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it was definitely all a marketing ploy.

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 6>If you look on their Instagram where that graphic was posted,

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 6>that had over three hundred likes, whereas their typical post

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 6>only has one to two hundred. So clearly the people

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 6>of Inner Melbourne love that stuff and so the progressive

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 6>issues they drive business, whether or not they're actually committed

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 6>to being virtuous in their own management of the business.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 3>WHI seems like people like the Instagram posts. They just

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 3>didn't go there and buy the product, otherwise that you'll

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 3>be in business.

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 4>I guess it's the old case of go work, go broke,

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 4>isn't it.

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>But my advice would.

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 4>Be, if you want to signal your virtue, perhaps make

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 4>sure you have some virtue in the first place.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back, we look at what's making headlines tomorrow,

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 3>including Anthony Albanesi under real pressure now to increase our

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 3>defense spending after he missed that meeting with Donald Trump

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 3>at the G seven.

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 2>That and more in just a moment, welcome back.

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 3>Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow, and

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 3>of course, Freyer, most of the papers are talking about

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 3>that G seven meeting and Anthony Albanese's missed schedule with

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump.

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 5>It's pretty huge.

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 6>The headline in the Australian says rock Starmer locks in

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 6>subs as PM MISSUS gig Anthony Albanezi will face extreme

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 6>pressure to ramp up Australia's defense spending following Donald Trump's

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 6>decision to cancel their long awaited meeting in Canada shortly

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 6>after delivering British Prime Minister Keir Starmer tariff exemptions and

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 6>assurances on the future of the three hundred and sixty

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 6>eight billion dollar or Casteele on the last day of

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 6>his one week overseas trip. Geared around his first in

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 6>person meeting with the US President, The Prime Minister was

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.439
<v Speaker 6>blindsided when the White House revealed mister Trump would leave

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 6>the G seven summit too early to deal with the escalating.

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 5>Israel Iran war.

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 6>Now can't blame Trump for leaving early to deal with

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 6>what could potentially turn into a global conflict, but it

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 6>does underscore how low on the list of priorities for

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 6>the US we in Australia are like. The meeting initially

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 6>was only supposed to be twenty minutes, which is pretty embarrassing.

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 6>In the first place, it was at the back of

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 6>the agenda. Now we're not even getting that well.

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Albanizi has been reduced to trying to pick up

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 3>clues from Kios Starmer's meeting with Trump as to what's

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 3>going to happen with Australia. Keir Starmer says that Orcus

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 3>is going to be okay, So Albanezi is taking that

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 3>as a hint that Trump believes that's where our relationship

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 3>with the US is at.

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous.

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Penny Wong defended the Prime Minister as you would expect

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 3>her to do, saying, well, you know, the fact he's

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 3>missed this meeting is not a big deal. Trump missed

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 3>meetings with other world leaders. But Anthony Albanzi has had

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 3>three quote constructive phone calls with the US present. Well,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 3>if they were that constructive, why do we still not

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 3>have anyemption on tariffs? Why are we're still not sure

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 3>on the orcst submarine deal.

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 2>They're the issues.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 3>We don't know what's happening, So they can't have been

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 3>that constructive.

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and also, you know, while I acknowledge, I understand

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.359
<v Speaker 4>why Trump left, and he didn't have to like get

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 4>up from his dinner seat and.

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Bugger off back to the United States straight away.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 4>It did he could have you know, organized twenty minutes

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 4>with Albanzi on the way out, but that clearly was

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 4>not at the.

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Top of his mind.

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 4>And we should also note as well that Albanze has

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 4>gone to the G seven, of which we are not

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 4>a member, to be on the sidelines, so he can

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 4>have twenty minutes with Trump. He's not gone to the

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 4>White House like basically everyone else had. I mean even

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 4>Cyril Ramaposa went to the White House for heaven's sake,

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 4>and Albanesi has gone then now, of course.

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>He's still in the region.

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 4>Albaniese is in Canada at the moment, so he should

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 4>be getting on the phone or his people should be

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 4>getting on the phone to organize a meeting at the

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 4>White House in the next few days if possible.

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>And if we can't pull that off, we should be

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>asking why not.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 3>If we had a decent relationship with our major Ally,

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Trump could have said, hey, it's a what three hour flight,

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 3>jump on Air Force one, come for Arrival'll have a

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 3>chat on the way and then I'll be off in

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 3>my office dealing with things.

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 6>Part of me does think this is a negotiating tactic

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 6>by Trump string Albanesi along to increase the pressure in

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 6>Australia to actually.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 5>Come to the table and defense spending, so we'll see.

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 6>I don't think Trump will even consider meeting with him

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 6>unless he actually changes the stance on lifting defense spending.

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, the next schedule is a UN meeting in September,

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 3>So in vain, Anthony Alberizi is going to be pacing

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 3>the corridors hoping for a chance meeting with the leader

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 3>of the free world.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 6>It's embarrassing for Australia, but also in the Australian. On

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 6>a similar note, Israel takes out Iran's military chief. Israel

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 6>says it's killed Iran's top military commander as the nation's

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 6>escalating war prompted Donald Trump to leave the g seventh

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 6>Summon early, ordered a second carrier strike group to the

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 6>Middle East and call for Tehran's evacuation. As Israel and

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 6>Iran exchanged missile fire for a fifth consecutive day, there

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 6>were growing fears the conflict could spiral out of control,

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 6>with Tehran warning the US of unfathomable consequences if it

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 6>joined the Jewish States attack. I mean, this is the

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:21.240
<v Speaker 6>difficult position Trump is in. Internally, within the MAGA movement,

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 6>they're divided between the neocons, and the isolationists. But this

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 6>really is the Western world's one chance to take out

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 6>the head of the octopus of terror.

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 5>If they don't do it now, when are they going

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 5>to do it.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.280
<v Speaker 3>They're upset right because Trump promised not to drag America

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 3>back into a foreign war. I think this is very different.

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 3>He's not talking about putting troops on the ground. He's

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 3>talking about using some specialized bombs. They have to once

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 3>and for all eliminate the nuclear threat that Iran boses,

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 3>not only to Israel but also to the United States.

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't see why Mega people are upset about it.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 4>And I think we should be cleaned. Trump is not

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 4>in isolations. There may be people in the Mega movement

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 4>who are Trump is not an isolation think he's an

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 4>anti interventionist. He doesn't want boots on the ground under

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 4>any circumstances, and I think he's right from that perspective.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 4>But I think it was very interesting to see his

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 4>post on Truth today, of course, saying evacuate Tehran now,

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 4>and all the people who got in their cars and

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the night drove out of Tehran

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 4>at the mere thought that the US might do something

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 4>over there, and.

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 3>We should note Israel taking out the military leader of Iran.

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 3>That's the second time they've done that in just five days.

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:31.959
<v Speaker 5>And that's the other thing.

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 6>Just quickly on this note, the MAGA camp doesn't want

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 6>to be dragged into an unwinnable war. But this is

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 6>one of the longest wars Israel's ever been in. Normally

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 6>there wars last around six days, so it's very different

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 6>to going into Afghanistan or Iraq.

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Inde.

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Let's go to the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser.

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Ozempick use in kids skyrockets. The number of children injecting

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 3>prescription drug ozempeck to manage diabetes has risen nine hundred

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 3>percent in three years in South Australia, prompting alarmed gps

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 3>to warn families to tackle diet before drugs. The startling

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 3>jump in children as young as twelve being prescribed the

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:14.280
<v Speaker 3>anti diabetes JAB is revealed in data obtained by the Advertiser,

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 3>showing an increase from eleven to one hundred and eleven

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 3>over a three year period.

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>That's where statistics get you.

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 3>A little bit, isn't it that you read You think nine

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent, Well, it's gone from eleven to one hundred

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.280
<v Speaker 3>and eleven. Doctors, to be fair, are still worried.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:29.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not sure.

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Is the worry that so many more children have been

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 3>diagnosed with diabetes or is the worry that they're being

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 3>prescribed as particular drug rather than being put on a

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 3>diet to try and alleviate some of the It's probably both.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Because the story goes on to say that, you know,

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 4>there's concerned that they're using other similar drugs, including off label,

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 4>which means they're not being used for diabeteses there being

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 4>used for weight loss, and so you know, the numbers

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:00.240
<v Speaker 4>might have jumped from eleven to one hundred and eleven in.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>A few years.

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 4>But you look at the use of a zempic now

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 4>across adults, I mean it has increased exponentially in the

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 4>last twelve months, and these are the numbers from twenty

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 4>twenty four, So you would just expect that these would

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 4>keep increasing, increasing, increasing. If you're starting kids on a

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 4>zim pick now, if you want to maintain that weight

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 4>loss forever, you've basically got to stay on a zimpic

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 4>for the rest of your life.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that really the merry ground we want to put

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 1>kids on?

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 6>But trying to get kids to stick to a diet

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 6>as well would be virtually impossible, so maybe this is

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 6>the best option.

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know that's a bit of parenting.

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 4>I think let's go to the Cans Post where it

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 4>says a common user facility in Dowd ahead of budget

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 4>off the cuff, the Far North will miss the boat

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 4>on major defense contracts and thousands of new jobs if

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 4>the state government fails to commit to building critical marine

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 4>infrastructure in the region. The Member for Cans Michael Healey

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 4>in set says, I think it's the inset really that.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Is the point of this story.

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they haven't just put this photo on the

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 4>front page of the Cans Post for nothing, because you

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 4>can see Michael Learly there has rocked up to a

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 4>pressa in his shorts.

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 4>I know it gets pretty warm up per in Cans,

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 4>but we're in winter at the moment, and you know,

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 4>you sort of get to mid sometimes high twenties up

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 4>in Queensland at this time of year.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a bit rich to be rocking up in your

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>bodies to a press conference, isn't it.

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I think he's expecting to do a radio interview, not

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 3>a television interview, and the podium is standing behind did

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 3>not provide anywhere near as much cover caliber as this

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 3>desk provided.

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Exactly the sorts you wear on the show.

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Hey, what are you talking about? I've got Chino's on

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 4>under ear, Thank.

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 2>You very much.

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 6>He clearly just thought he was still working from home.

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 6>He had the business up top, party down the bottom.

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 6>But just finally, in the Canbra Times, Summer NATS is

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 6>too noisy. Noisy events at Summer NAT's, the annual car

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 6>event that attracts more than one hundred thousand people to Canberra,

0:44:56.360 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 6>cannot practicably comply with im post sound limits, an independent

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 6>assessment has found. I mean, perhaps the solution is they

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 6>all just jump in their Chinese electric vehicle and whoosh

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 6>around a memory silence.

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>That will be a very unpopular event.

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 4>But could you get any more Canberra than overpaid public

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 4>servants complaining about people coming along to enjoy themselves at Samminets.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>It's Australia, goddamn it.

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Let us enjoy our noisy cars for as long as

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 4>they continue to exist.

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, we're going to go to a break when we

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 3>come back. Hollywood, A just no, not a bit. Pamela

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Anderson is in a brand new movie. We'll show you

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 3>a clip in just a moment. Politicians are usually very

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 3>careful to appear polished and in control, but I want

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 3>to show you something that happened at the G seven

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:49.399
<v Speaker 3>meeting when Trump signed a trade deal with Kirstarma from

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 3>the UK.

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't Trump's best moment. He said he'd signed a

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 2>trade deal with the EU.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course it's the UK and the UK are part

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<v Speaker 3>of the EU. And then to make matters worse, Trump

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<v Speaker 3>um the freshly signed agreement all over the ground. But

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<v Speaker 3>worse was for Kirs Starmer. You know how reluctant Western

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<v Speaker 3>leaders are to be seen kow towing to the US president.

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<v Speaker 6>We all know the great Prime Minister of the UK,

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<v Speaker 6>and we just signed a document.

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<v Speaker 3>This is about that.

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<v Speaker 4>This is it very important document.

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<v Speaker 1>A little.

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<v Speaker 5>We just saying it and it's done, and so we

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<v Speaker 5>have our trade agreement with the European Union.

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<v Speaker 3>Well immediately images of that interaction went viral online from

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<v Speaker 3>KOs Starmer's opponents, accusing him of bowing down to Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>kow towing to the US leader.

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<v Speaker 2>And doing whatever Trump wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>I suspect those images will haunt Kirs Starmer for quite

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<v Speaker 3>some time, though kind he was just being polite.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's right, he was just picking up the papers.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know he's a conscientious man, is sir

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<v Speaker 4>Ki is starmer who doesn't want the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can blame him for that.

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<v Speaker 4>While we're talking about Donald Trump, we know that he's

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<v Speaker 4>a big businessman. But while he's president, he's handed it

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<v Speaker 4>over to his sons, Don Junior and Eric to carry

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<v Speaker 4>on the Trump business. And they see all sorts of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff picking off the back of mister Trump. Of course

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<v Speaker 4>watches all sorts of Now they're doing mobile phones, a

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<v Speaker 4>gold mobile phone. No less, you will be able to

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<v Speaker 4>buy the Donald Trump gold iPhone with the big T

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<v Speaker 4>on the back. I'm sure they'll be flying off the shelves.

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<v Speaker 4>They're also going to start a mobile phone service, Trump

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<v Speaker 4>Mobile lo'ks like it was all predicted on Saturday Night

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<v Speaker 4>Live ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys getting in on this. You used to call me

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<v Speaker 1>on the cell phone, name call me on the cell phone.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, look, you know, I like Donald Trump, but you

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<v Speaker 4>have to be a bit tragic. Don't you to run

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<v Speaker 4>out and buy a gold Trump iPhone.

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<v Speaker 6>That's even if it is physically possible. To fully manufacture

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<v Speaker 6>an iPhone in the US, which experts seem to say

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<v Speaker 6>it's absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 5>But never let reality.

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<v Speaker 6>Get in the way of a good business idea, especially

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<v Speaker 6>when you're a Trump. In other news, Hollywood Bombshell, Pamela

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<v Speaker 6>Anderson is back on the big screen in the sequel

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<v Speaker 6>to the Naked Gun series.

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<v Speaker 5>Check out this trailer over here.

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<v Speaker 2>The tenant, I think someone murdered my brother. Please take

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<v Speaker 2>your share, thank you, I'll find them.

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<v Speaker 4>This is tway too.

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<v Speaker 2>So as you serve twenty years for man's laughter, you

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<v Speaker 2>mean manslaughter must have been.

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<v Speaker 6>Quite the joke, pretty good. So whoever says Hollywood is ages.

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<v Speaker 6>She's in her late fifties and still going strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty seven years old, and why are you smiling?

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<v Speaker 4>As you said earlier, she was about seven, so you

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<v Speaker 4>know this was before the show. I'm just glad they're

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<v Speaker 4>remaking The Naked Gun. I mean, you know, the days

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<v Speaker 4>of Leslie Nielsen, etc. They were fabulous films. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>good to see a proper comedy film coming back again.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, that's all we've got time for tonight. Stick around

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<v Speaker 3>coming up is to read a Pennty show.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Night,