Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to this special program live from Melbourne,
Speaker 2: reporting on the terror attack at the Adas Israel Synagogue,
Speaker 2: a synagogue that went from this lively, busy place of community.
Speaker 3: And prayer.
Speaker 2: To this a place of worship so violently destroyed, decimated
Speaker 2: and desecrated. I saw this for myself today when I
Speaker 2: was invited to walk through that shocking scene, and when
Speaker 2: I spoke with the worshiper who survived but so easily
Speaker 2: could have been killed, I felt compelled to witness this
Speaker 2: and report on it, to bring you the full horror
Speaker 2: of this attack, and to reflect on the visceral impact
Speaker 2: it's had on all right thinking Australians, regardless of our
Speaker 2: faith or race. Sadly, shockingly, these pictures show you what
Speaker 2: antisemitism means. This is the hunting of Jews by arsonists,
Speaker 2: potentially with murder in their minds and hatred in their hearts,
Speaker 2: right here in Melbourne, Australia, in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Now bring you my.
Speaker 2: Full report from the synagogue in a moment. But make
Speaker 2: no mistake, this is the worst attack on a place
Speaker 2: of worship in Australia in recent history, with police today
Speaker 2: officially declaring it a terrorist attack, and the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: was today forced into action, embarrassed into action, and he
Speaker 2: announced a special task force to investigate incidents of antisemitism.
Speaker 2: Yet Albanezi still hasn't visited the Adas Synagogue. Neither has
Speaker 2: his Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke or any senior Cabinet
Speaker 2: minister apart from outgoing rival Bill Shorten.
Speaker 3: Now, if this.
Speaker 2: Were a mosque, you can bet Alberizi and Burke would
Speaker 2: have been there mere hours after it happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, true to farm.
Speaker 2: We saw Albanesi government ministers speaking about Islamophobia today.
Speaker 4: He said that they shouldn't be that Islamophobia shouldn't be
Speaker 4: mentioned in the same sentence as the Prime Minister has done.
Speaker 4: If James Patterson thinks there's no Islamophobia in Australia, he's wrong.
Speaker 1: He didn't say that, though.
Speaker 5: He said that when something happens, it should be enough
Speaker 5: to just denounce Sey and.
Speaker 1: He went on to say that they're not at the
Speaker 1: same levels. Look, but the.
Speaker 2: Poilamaty many are you saying they are at the same levels,
Speaker 2: Because we've just seen a targeted attack on a synagogue.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Patricia, that both exist, and I'm saying that
Speaker 6: both can be called out.
Speaker 2: But there's no Islamophobia crisis. And this is not a mosque,
Speaker 2: it's a synagogu. It's Jewish people who are being targeted.
Speaker 2: But this doesn't fit Albanesi's preferred narrative of Palestinians being
Speaker 2: the victims. That's what he's argued throughout his parliamentary career.
Speaker 2: It's why he's failed to meet the moment as this
Speaker 2: anti Semitism crisis erupted.
Speaker 3: He has not.
Speaker 2: Risen to the occasion of being Prime Minister, where he's
Speaker 2: obligated to protect all Australians, yet he's allowed one minority group, Jews,
Speaker 2: to be persecuted. The problem is we literally have pro
Speaker 2: Palestinian activists in charge of fixing anti Semitism in our country.
Speaker 2: Now remember this was Albanesi from early in his political career,
Speaker 2: but he was already a federal MP in Canberra.
Speaker 7: Of Israel has been truan.
Speaker 8: We've never got the gunships witchas Abrisolf.
Speaker 2: And this activism continued throughout Albanese's time in parliament. In
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, just two years before Albanesi became opposition leader.
Speaker 2: He and Tony Burke had a policy forum on Palestine
Speaker 2: with special guest fellow pro Palestinian activist Bob Carr.
Speaker 3: But here's my point.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine putting the current antisemitism crisis in the
Speaker 2: hands of one of the protesters.
Speaker 3: You'd simply never do it. Yet that's what we.
Speaker 2: Have here with alban Easy and Tony Burke. It's like
Speaker 2: having the fox in charge of the hen House. Our
Speaker 2: safety has been categorically put at risk by this government's
Speaker 2: lack of action on antisemitism, and how can the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister claim with us straight face, as he did on
Speaker 2: the weekend, that he's done all he can on anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: On the contrary, Albanesi and Pennywog have only emboldened the haters.
Speaker 2: Their moral confusion has encouraged the Israel haters and has
Speaker 2: allowed anti Semitism to fester. They've wrongly demonized Israel and
Speaker 2: thus made Jews a target because in the minds of
Speaker 2: the haters, Jews are inseparable from Israel, because Israel is
Speaker 2: the Jewish homeland. Watching the anti Semitism that was erupting,
Speaker 2: the Albanese government had a responsibility not to fix the
Speaker 2: Middle East war, but to ensure that all Australians were
Speaker 2: safe and protected. Instead, they tried to adjudicate the war.
Speaker 2: Penniwang should have said Israel has a right a duty
Speaker 2: to defend itself and it needs to bring its hostages home.
Speaker 2: She should have said that any nation would do the same,
Speaker 2: and if she had a criticism, she could have made
Speaker 2: it in private, knowing how public provocative language could inflame
Speaker 2: tensions here, but she dangerously chose not to do that.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister has been very slow to acknowledge there's
Speaker 2: an antisemitism issue, and he probably wouldn't be acting at
Speaker 2: all if he hadn't been forced into it with accusations
Speaker 2: that he's been missing in action, literally blasted across the
Speaker 2: front page of the newspaper. Well after four days of
Speaker 2: us all watching on in bewilderment at his apparent lack
Speaker 2: of interest in the fact a synagogue had burnt down.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister finally held a press conference today with
Speaker 2: the AFP, ASIO and Attorney General. But if it weren't
Speaker 2: for the media and the principled stand taken by Peter Dutton,
Speaker 2: James Patterson, Josh fen Berg and the Jewish community leaders. Well,
Speaker 2: it's unlikely alb and Easy would have announced this today.
Speaker 7: Today I can also announce that we have established AFP
Speaker 7: Special Operation Averalite for Anti Semitism. This is in response
Speaker 7: to the attack class Friday morning that is now the
Speaker 7: third arson attack after the attack on Josh Burn's electorate
Speaker 7: office and the Sydney Willara car incident.
Speaker 2: And yet he still hasn't visited the side of what
Speaker 2: is now officially a declared terrorist incident. Well, like me,
Speaker 2: Peter Darton was there today. He walked through the synagogue
Speaker 2: and he found it emotional to.
Speaker 9: See the half bird books, scriptures and the devastation to
Speaker 9: a place that otherwise is peaceful and allows people to
Speaker 9: practice their faith and to to share each other's company.
Speaker 9: To be disrupted in that way is a horrible thing
Speaker 9: to see.
Speaker 3: Quite emotional seeing it is.
Speaker 9: It is actually yes, yeah, I think when you see
Speaker 9: and it's not just the site, it's the smell as well,
Speaker 9: the stench of the fire and you can see where people,
Speaker 9: young children, others have been sitting. Is entirely predictable, as
Speaker 9: you've reported to your great credit, on our university campuses
Speaker 9: and in our streets, people have been crossing red lines
Speaker 9: for the last thirteen months. They've acted with gross indecency
Speaker 9: and now, of course it's culminated in this terrorist attack
Speaker 9: and maybe it should be surprised by that, and we
Speaker 9: need to work out how we can quickly resolve these
Speaker 9: issues so that the next terrorist attack doesn't take place.
Speaker 2: Well, I asked Peter Dutton if Albin Easy should turn up,
Speaker 2: but instead Alban Easy played tennis over the weekend. Action
Speaker 2: on anti Semitism, Darton said should have been taken fourteen
Speaker 2: months ago. Peter, you've been here, you've shown the leadership
Speaker 2: to actually come and visit. The Prime Minister has it
Speaker 2: and we've just found out it's just been reported that
Speaker 2: he took time out to play tennis instead of dealing
Speaker 2: with this issue over the weekend. What's your response to
Speaker 2: the fact that he went and played tennis literally while
Speaker 2: a synagogue was Burnie Well.
Speaker 9: I think it's really a story of the last thirteen
Speaker 9: months and when we saw those horrible circumstances and protests
Speaker 9: on the steps of the Sydney Opera House, that was
Speaker 9: really the time when the Prime Minister had to step up,
Speaker 9: because that would have sent a clear message that we
Speaker 9: had no tolerance for the any Semitic conduct and the
Speaker 9: blatant racism that was on display that night. But it's
Speaker 9: just compounded since then, and so as I say, nobody
Speaker 9: should be surprised that it's culminated in a terrorist event.
Speaker 9: And I think the Prime Minister can tell you about
Speaker 9: his own position and why the government's taken a position
Speaker 9: which I think is incomprehensible to my right thinking.
Speaker 3: Australians, you think you should come visit.
Speaker 9: I think he should come visit, and I think it
Speaker 9: would be the respectful thing to do.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: As Peter Dutton says, the antisemitism crisis should never have
Speaker 2: come to this. Pennywong and Albenizi need to be strongly
Speaker 2: reminded of exactly what their jobs are. Their role is
Speaker 2: to govern for Australia. It's not to interfere in foreign wars.
Speaker 2: It's not to tell a sovereign nation how to act
Speaker 2: when it comes under attack with its civilians killed and
Speaker 2: kidnapped in an unprovoked act of terror. Albanizi leads the
Speaker 2: Australian government, not the Palestinian government. His most basic requirement
Speaker 2: in office is to provide a safe environment for all
Speaker 2: of us in Australia. Yet he's disgracefully failed to do this.
Speaker 2: Let's hope today is the start of proper leadership, and
Speaker 2: yet somehow I doubt it. Well, it's another huge show tonight.
Speaker 2: Shutout Home Affairs Minister James Patterson will join us to
Speaker 2: talk about what he says the government needs to do
Speaker 2: to fix anti Semitism. I'll also get his thoughts on
Speaker 2: the overthrow of the Sad regime in Syria. Plus Cameron Milner,
Speaker 2: David Gazzard, Israel's anti Semitism envoy. She's going to join
Speaker 2: me from Israel later in the show. Steve Priceoy Mackenzie
Speaker 2: as well. But now let's turn to our special report
Speaker 2: where we show you the utter devastation inside the Addas
Speaker 2: Israel Synagogue. I went in with you, me a businessman
Speaker 2: who was studying inside at the time of the fire bombing.
Speaker 2: It was profoundly heartbreaking.
Speaker 10: Here's that report, string Aliens and the deep faith that
Speaker 10: unites us all.
Speaker 3: We're outside the synagogue.
Speaker 2: We're about to go inside and witness the extent of
Speaker 2: the damage after the devastating fire bombing early on Friday morning.
Speaker 2: You're me thank you so much for taking us inside.
Speaker 3: You're the only one here.
Speaker 2: When this happens here, so you're me the The first
Speaker 2: thing that hits you is the smell.
Speaker 3: It's so strong, and the soot. The police tape.
Speaker 2: This shouldn't be what it's like walking into a synagogue.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't.
Speaker 2: This main area of the synagogue where the congregants come.
Speaker 2: I mean it is damaged, but largely it hasn't been
Speaker 2: burnt to the ground.
Speaker 11: Windows have a little bit miracle, miracle this one. It's
Speaker 11: upsetting that such a thing could happen here in Australia.
Speaker 3: It's devastating.
Speaker 2: So Umi, let's go through to where the fire really
Speaker 2: ripped through the synagogue.
Speaker 1: Oh, look at this.
Speaker 3: It's oh, it's just it's heartbreaking. It's truly heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: You were over here in the quiet early hours of
Speaker 2: the morning, absolute silence.
Speaker 3: Tell us what happened.
Speaker 11: So I was sitting there, so you can see my
Speaker 11: books there at the first table there on the left
Speaker 11: hand side. On the right hand side of the table,
Speaker 11: there's some books still they're not completely burnt. And I
Speaker 11: was studying. Suddenly I hit his big bank. It felt
Speaker 11: like a sledgehammer on a.
Speaker 1: Wooden door, and it was on this door, I think,
Speaker 1: so I don't know.
Speaker 11: But then a second later another bank and I saw
Speaker 11: glass flying out, so I knew that I was under attack.
Speaker 11: So I just jumped up, ran out, and I forgot
Speaker 11: my phone. I've been terrifying, terrified, Yes I was, But
Speaker 11: I am part of Hatsula, and I've got a radio
Speaker 11: on me, a walkie talkie, and I got on there and.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm under attack. Can I have back up?
Speaker 2: This is where the fire really ripped through. This is
Speaker 2: the most destruction in the synagogue.
Speaker 3: What usually happens in this room.
Speaker 11: In this room, people study and in about six thirty
Speaker 11: that's when we start praying. So all this is full
Speaker 11: of books all around the front, full of books all
Speaker 11: over there is full of books that's all gone with
Speaker 11: the fire.
Speaker 1: You can just see.
Speaker 3: Here the burnt prayer books. It's it's truly.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't expect to see this in Australia in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 1: This is absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Definitely, you're a proud Jew. You're living in Australia, a
Speaker 2: peaceful country. To think that you're in your house of worship, just.
Speaker 1: Such a thing would happen. I don't believe.
Speaker 11: I wouldn't believe that such a thing would happen here
Speaker 11: in Australia. It's so far away from the world. Why
Speaker 11: should anyone target us. I walk on the street normally,
Speaker 11: I've got nothing against anyone, and I thought no one
Speaker 11: has ended against us.
Speaker 2: It was just in Israel recently for the anniversary of
Speaker 2: October seven, and I went down to Kidbutz Vary and
Speaker 2: I saw how hermas burnt that Kidbutz to pieces and
Speaker 2: kidnapped innocent families. And then you walk in here, and
Speaker 2: I never expected to see that here in Australia, that
Speaker 2: similar fire, the same technique. Michael, you're the president of
Speaker 2: this synagogue.
Speaker 3: What's it like to see it like that?
Speaker 12: It's very emotional and upsetting. It's very difficult for us
Speaker 12: to see this, especially my parents. My grand parents will
Speaker 12: come after the war with shirts on the back. We're
Speaker 12: knocking at all. Now we have to contain their legacy.
Speaker 3: Did you ever man?
Speaker 1: Never? Never.
Speaker 12: I thought possibly could be a bit off hate, a
Speaker 12: bit of shouting, bit of scheming. I never imagined it's
Speaker 12: going to come to this. I was up earty. I
Speaker 12: got to call it ten plus five Friday the morning
Speaker 12: I was totally shocked at God's here within five minutes,
Speaker 12: and I just couldn't function all day and I still
Speaker 12: can't function. And it's going to be a huge project,
Speaker 12: huge rebuilding project. All the everything. You see what happens
Speaker 12: in the Middle Elites. We thought we're in island, we're
Speaker 12: far away from the world. We will be immune from
Speaker 12: all the issues and the problems. What happened in the world.
Speaker 12: We do not expect this is what happened here at all.
Speaker 2: How do you explain this sort of terror attack to
Speaker 2: your children and grandchildren.
Speaker 12: It's very difficult the children, and not only the children,
Speaker 12: a lot of members, a lot of adults are traumatized,
Speaker 12: which they can come to terms with it. And when
Speaker 12: we rebuilt, which will come into tens of millions.
Speaker 1: Of dollars to the buildings.
Speaker 12: Again, we're going to have to put high security in
Speaker 12: high everything. Not they will not come. They traumatize, they're scared.
Speaker 12: What happened to you, Meik Truman happened to them again.
Speaker 2: So William, can you tell us this incredible story of
Speaker 2: this Torres scroll surviving now to synagogue attacks.
Speaker 8: The synagogue was fire bombed in Brutdslaver. As you can see,
Speaker 8: there's a new coat they were put on there because
Speaker 8: the old coat was damaged and says survived the Holocaust
Speaker 8: in Brutdoslav And when my parents came to Australia in
Speaker 8: nineteen forty eight, they built.
Speaker 1: Up the synagogue.
Speaker 8: They donated to the synagogue and for the second time
Speaker 8: it has to be rescued from the fire bombing by
Speaker 8: the same hatred that was there during the Nazi period
Speaker 8: and seems to have continued over here now in Australia.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that sort of anti semitism
Speaker 2: of the Holocaust that your parents survived.
Speaker 8: Until it's unbelievable and they would be turning their graves
Speaker 8: to think this happening in the country they came to,
Speaker 8: a country they thought the best country. The happiest day
Speaker 8: of my father's life is the day got his naturalization
Speaker 8: to be Australian citizen.
Speaker 1: Was the happiest day of his life.
Speaker 8: He couldn't believe it was so proud to be in
Speaker 8: Australian And to see this happening over here just breaks
Speaker 8: your heart.
Speaker 2: Your parents aren't alive today. What do you think they'd
Speaker 2: be thinking about.
Speaker 1: Turning their graves think?
Speaker 8: And that just couldn't happen the country they loved with
Speaker 8: all their heart came to Australia ninety forty, I didn't
Speaker 8: want to change a thing. They thought this was the
Speaker 8: Golden Mednner meaning the golden country, that this is the
Speaker 8: country to live in, free and happy.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately it turned out to be how it is.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister on Friday said anti Semitism has always
Speaker 2: been around, Sure it has, but not in Australia.
Speaker 1: It hasn't. I've never felt that Australia not like this.
Speaker 2: Okay, Eleiana, your great grandparents actually founded this synagogue, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they did.
Speaker 13: It's really upsetting to see that in our country, Australia,
Speaker 13: where it's known for its diversity and multiculturism, that there
Speaker 13: is such hatred amongst us and on the streets, and
Speaker 13: it's resulted in the burning.
Speaker 3: Of a synagogue where this is a.
Speaker 13: Place of worship and where my family is deeply connected to.
Speaker 13: And my grandparents helped establish this synagogue where they escaped
Speaker 13: this ant Semitism in Europe where there was many burnings
Speaker 13: of synagogues there and they came here for safety, and
Speaker 13: they came here to set up a new life where
Speaker 13: they could be proud Jews, but I think they would
Speaker 13: be truly in disbelief of what is happening currently here
Speaker 13: in our country.
Speaker 2: It's just heart wrenching, isn't it. And if you want
Speaker 2: to donate to help the rebuild, no matter how small,
Speaker 2: the website to go to is www dot Rebuild a DAS.
Speaker 2: That's ADAS dot com, Rebuild a Das dot com. All right,
Speaker 2: we're going to come back to that topic later in
Speaker 2: the show, but now let's bring in tonight's panel, Sky
Speaker 2: News host Steve Price and Liberal MP Zoe Mackenzie.
Speaker 3: Great to see you both here in Melbourne for once.
Speaker 2: We welcome now the Prime Minister was caught out today
Speaker 2: playing tennis in Codderslow while the community and all Australians
Speaker 2: were horrified at this terror attack.
Speaker 3: Steve Price, how can you believe he.
Speaker 2: Was playing tennis instead of addressing the nation on this
Speaker 2: important issue.
Speaker 4: I was staggered that he stayed in Perth for the
Speaker 4: whole weekend. Forget the tennis. Even if it wasn't playing tennis.
Speaker 4: I couldn't understand why this happened Friday morning very early.
Speaker 4: As we know, he should have come straight back to
Speaker 4: Victoria and should have gone there on the Friday, but
Speaker 4: then he doesn't go there on the Saturday. Then you
Speaker 4: get two days of he doesn't even give a media conference,
Speaker 4: doesn't talk about it, and then when he was asked
Speaker 4: about playing tennis today, he said, oh, I didn't play
Speaker 4: tennis on Sunday morning. And then someone said, what we
Speaker 4: got it wrong, have we? But he then admitted that
Speaker 4: he was playing tennis in the afternoon for two hours.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's such a bad, bad look these people.
Speaker 4: And the premier is no better, Jacinda Allen, I just
Speaker 4: completely lost the plot. They don't get it.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's his Hawaii moment? Oh, Zoey McKenzie.
Speaker 14: Oh, he's had a few of these moments, I think
Speaker 14: where he's just shown a real tone deafness, whether it's
Speaker 14: cost of living, pressures on families, pressures on small business,
Speaker 14: red tape, industrial relations, and now these may I say
Speaker 14: this is one off now three really significant fire bombing instances,
Speaker 14: but hundreds of other instances, people being attacked on the streets,
Speaker 14: hit on the streets, abused on the street, eggs being
Speaker 14: thrown at them, being spat on in the city. There
Speaker 14: was plenty of evidence of a proper narrative proper leadership
Speaker 14: being required in October of last year.
Speaker 3: The fact that we're still here.
Speaker 14: In December and there are days of songs. So he
Speaker 14: didn't send out Richard Marles WTPM, he's just down the road,
Speaker 14: didn't send out the attorney general. He's even closer to
Speaker 14: the synagogue.
Speaker 4: You know where the premier was now, I'm in a
Speaker 4: pub on Sunday.
Speaker 1: She didn't go to that vigil.
Speaker 4: She was in Northcotte in a hotel making an announcement
Speaker 4: about licensing laws.
Speaker 3: The leadership is absolutely disgraceful.
Speaker 2: And you know Melbourne, I think, does you know we're
Speaker 2: seeing anti semitism everywhere. It feels like it's been particularly
Speaker 2: acute in this community. I think at least new Southews
Speaker 2: Premier Chris Mens, his instincts are in the right place. Yes,
Speaker 2: we haven't had enough law enforcement action, but his heart's
Speaker 2: in the right place. He came out on the weekend
Speaker 2: and he said, well, we need a banned protest outside
Speaker 2: of synagogue. This is what I've been saying for such
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 4: You can't just protest just Senator Allen said tonight that
Speaker 4: she won't even introduce a permit system to stop people
Speaker 4: marching your a call. As you report at the time
Speaker 4: that that march past to Senegorge and Sydney, it was
Speaker 4: denied a permit and they changed the route. She was
Speaker 4: asked again tonight, will you put in a permit system
Speaker 4: to stop pro Palestinian marches carrying a Palestinian flag shouting
Speaker 4: out from the river to the sea.
Speaker 2: No, it's the most basic thing that should be done. Look,
Speaker 2: I want to turn to another couple of stories that
Speaker 2: are around today. We will come back to this. I've
Speaker 2: got James Patterson on the show a bit later. Plus
Speaker 2: Israel's Auntie Seventi is of mine, so I'm going to
Speaker 2: have full coverage tonight. But we are seeing reports in
Speaker 2: the Herald Sun today about just how much the controversial
Speaker 2: First Nations People ambassador is costing. Now, we are already
Speaker 2: know that the salary is nearly eight hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: but Steve, now we've got this report that DEFACT is
Speaker 2: also awarding a consultancy firm more than a quarter of
Speaker 2: a million dollars to help develop a policy strategy.
Speaker 4: And this follows that ambassador's travel which was I think
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty five thousand dollars worth of business
Speaker 4: class airfares around the world, talking about a separate indigenous
Speaker 4: foreign policy that apparently we're going to introduce. I mean,
Speaker 4: since when do we have an indigenous foreign policy Peter Dutton.
Speaker 4: I think Zoe said he's going to scrap it, isn't he?
Speaker 14: Not that I've seen today, necessarily, but that would be
Speaker 14: a logical investigation to make that. Together with the other
Speaker 14: three hundred and sixteen billion dollars of additional funding that
Speaker 14: have contributed thirty six thousand additional public servants in Canberra,
Speaker 14: it's quite a long list of expenditure that we need
Speaker 14: to start with if ever we get back into government Canberra.
Speaker 2: Zoie, maybe Peter Dutton needs to announce an elon musk
Speaker 2: vivak Ramaswami style.
Speaker 3: Zos Well, I think that's already on Benevisionzy. To be fair,
Speaker 3: everything that he.
Speaker 14: Came out and said on the weekend that this government
Speaker 14: needed to do, they've actually gone and done just four
Speaker 14: days too late. So again it's Peter's leadership on the
Speaker 14: weekend saying we need to have an antisemitism task force,
Speaker 14: we need to look at whether we should take away
Speaker 14: visas for people who have committed anti Semitic acts. I
Speaker 14: was recently in India with a bunch of German politicians.
Speaker 14: They actually take away citizenship if it's been found that
Speaker 14: somebody committed a grave anti Semitic act. So again Peter
Speaker 14: is leading the debate and the Prime Minister has come slowly,
Speaker 14: slowly up behind.
Speaker 4: Who's the mask?
Speaker 1: Who we're going to like?
Speaker 4: Go boss?
Speaker 3: We'd have to work out who should be appointed to it.
Speaker 3: But it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic idea.
Speaker 3: The public services bloated a.
Speaker 4: Six thousand extra since albody's he was elected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's costed and we're the bunch of mopouts already.
Speaker 3: Intense it makes sense, absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should maybe get Peter Dutton on the show
Speaker 2: and speak to him about that idea. It is possible
Speaker 2: that he's going to be the Prime minister because we've
Speaker 2: seen today two disastrous polls for alban Easy News poll
Speaker 2: in the Australian and Resolve in the Herald, which had
Speaker 2: Labour's primary just twenty seven percent. I mean, you'd think
Speaker 2: they can't really win with a twenty seven percent primary.
Speaker 3: Steve, do you think it's.
Speaker 2: Now looking like Peter Dutton could went outright. I mean
Speaker 2: we always talk about how the most likely scenario is
Speaker 2: Albanesi and minority government.
Speaker 3: But do you reckon now? People are just turning off.
Speaker 3: You know that the Prime Minister has lost the confidence.
Speaker 4: Of Australia absolutely, I mean he is a leader is shot.
Speaker 4: I mean that poll today showed that the preferred prime
Speaker 4: minister attitudes towards Anthony Albanezia the worst in Newspole history.
Speaker 4: So he's gone. I mean Labor has to stick with him.
Speaker 4: They can't change leaders to en Now. In the election,
Speaker 4: Ken Peter Dutton beat him, I think. So it's a
Speaker 4: lot of seats that Zoe and the Coalition have got
Speaker 4: to win. But Peter Dutton is giving the right messages.
Speaker 4: I mean he's telling things, telling the people things they
Speaker 4: want to hear. And it'll be interesting to see the
Speaker 4: nuclear policy when it's released this week and what sort
Speaker 4: of blowback that gets from the public. But remember this poll,
Speaker 4: which is the worst ever in Newspol history for Elbow,
Speaker 4: was before what happened on Friday at the synagogue and
Speaker 4: before we found out he was playing tennis.
Speaker 1: That's what it's like.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, good point, Zoe, What do you think. I mean,
Speaker 2: if it was a contest just between the Coalition and Labor,
Speaker 2: you'd think probably Peter Dutton would win. But then there's
Speaker 2: the question of the Teals how many seats are you
Speaker 2: and a cross batch? But on the Teals question, how
Speaker 2: many seats realistically do you think the Coalition can win back?
Speaker 14: Well, I think it's all a question of people understanding
Speaker 14: that when they vote Teal they probably get something else eventually.
Speaker 14: So the question for each Teal in the field is
Speaker 14: who will you back in the questions of government majority
Speaker 14: and supply in particular, So every single one this time
Speaker 14: we now know precisely what they're choosing between, whether it
Speaker 14: is it Dutton government, a coalition government with the record
Speaker 14: we had for the previous twelve years, or this government
Speaker 14: and its continuation. Steve and I turns out live quite
Speaker 14: close to each other. You wouldn't meet a man or
Speaker 14: a woman on the street who says Elbow's done a
Speaker 14: good job. I have got endless shops in what is
Speaker 14: a tourism zone. As we head into the peak of summer,
Speaker 14: all businesses are closing, left, right and center. They're all
Speaker 14: backed by their mortgage which is costing them on average
Speaker 14: twenty six thousand dollars extra just in interest.
Speaker 3: Payments every year.
Speaker 14: No one is saying thanks Albow, Steve.
Speaker 3: What do you think I mean? I saw Tim Wilson
Speaker 3: out today.
Speaker 2: He's trying to unsee Zoe Daniels in Goldstein. What do
Speaker 2: you think I mean? I think it seems like a
Speaker 2: Legris spender will be tough to beat. In Wantworth. Roeknox
Speaker 2: is giving it a good shot. She's working very hard.
Speaker 2: What's your sense of the tials in Melbourne.
Speaker 4: Well, in Melbourne Victoria, I think, and Zoe correct me
Speaker 4: if I'm wrong. I think they can probably get Cooljong
Speaker 4: back Manik Ryan has not been a good member at all,
Speaker 4: and the Liberals have chosen fantastic Emilia Hayman. That's a
Speaker 4: great candidate. I think Zoey Daniels is in trouble in Goldstein.
Speaker 4: I think Tim Wilson, even though he lost to her
Speaker 4: at the last election, probably he could. They could pick
Speaker 4: that up. I think that's a real possibility. In Sydney,
Speaker 4: I think one of those Northern Beaches seats they can
Speaker 4: probably get back. So it's a work in progress, but
Speaker 4: I think in general, the people who voted to you
Speaker 4: last time unless they're completely committed to the Teal cause
Speaker 4: would be disappointed in what those people delivered. They haven't
Speaker 4: done anything for anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I think a lot of the Teal
Speaker 2: vote last time was a protest vote against Scott Morrison.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was an individual which.
Speaker 2: We won't see this time around. All right, Zo McKenzie,
Speaker 2: Steve Price. So great to be here with you in
Speaker 2: Melvin tonight.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Cherry.
Speaker 3: Now still to come? Is it all over?
Speaker 2: Red Rover for alban easy, with Australians fed up with
Speaker 2: his leadership and the vast majority rejecting the.
Speaker 3: Notion he has their back.
Speaker 2: Plus Shutou Home Affairs Minister James Patterson will join me
Speaker 2: next with what Anthony Albertezi needs to do specifically to
Speaker 2: fix this antisemitism crisis. That's after this quick break, welcome back.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: Since October seven, Senator James Patterson has been outstanding and
Speaker 2: steadfast in calling out Labour's lack of moral clarity on
Speaker 2: anti Semitism.
Speaker 3: The problem should.
Speaker 2: Have been nipped in the bud immediately after the Upper
Speaker 2: House protest some fourteen months ago. Or to discuss this
Speaker 2: and what should be done, I caught up with James
Speaker 2: Patterson earlier today, James Patterson, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your time. We're standing here outside the adust Synagogue.
Speaker 3: Many of us.
Speaker 2: Are asking how did antisemitism in Australia get to this point.
Speaker 6: I think the ansashari is that the Prime Minister ignored
Speaker 6: the warnings. He ignored the Jewish community, he ignored the opposition,
Speaker 6: he ignored so many people who've been crying out for
Speaker 6: fourteen months that anti Semitism is out of control in
Speaker 6: our country and that if something serious wasn't done, then
Speaker 6: something tragic would happen. And this is the tragic thing.
Speaker 1: That has happened.
Speaker 6: It is a miracle that no one died, but someone
Speaker 6: easily could have. And unfortunately, there's still possibility this will
Speaker 6: get worse. As far as we know, the people behind
Speaker 6: this are still at large, and there could be others
Speaker 6: in the community who are seeking to copy it. And
Speaker 6: that's why we need a strong response from the beginning,
Speaker 6: a strong moral response calling out anti semitism, and a
Speaker 6: strong operational response enforcing the law, making sure there are
Speaker 6: consequences for extremists and their behavior. Otherwise they would become emboldened,
Speaker 6: and they have.
Speaker 2: Been, and that's by so many Australians, particularly in the
Speaker 2: Jewish community, are feeling so.
Speaker 3: Anxious at the moment.
Speaker 2: James, you and Peter Darton have been so strong on
Speaker 2: the need to tackle anti semitism. Today you've come out
Speaker 2: and said precisely what measures you think need to be taken.
Speaker 3: Can you talk us through them?
Speaker 6: Well, we've heard the Jewish community when they say the
Speaker 6: number one thing they want from governance is for the
Speaker 6: law to be enforced. And so we've announced that we
Speaker 6: will establish a new AFP led task force to tackle
Speaker 6: antisemitism that will include Border Force and AZIO and our
Speaker 6: other key intelligence and security agencies at the federal level,
Speaker 6: and that we will direct them through a ministry or
Speaker 6: direction to prioritize anti semitism and particularly unresolved complaints. We
Speaker 6: also want them to look back on complaints that they've
Speaker 6: decided not to proceed with charges for, because we want
Speaker 6: to make sure they are consequences for the people who've
Speaker 6: done what they've done. We'll also ensure that the Executive
Speaker 6: Council of Australian Injuries request for thirty two point five
Speaker 6: million dollars of security funding will be delivered, but critically
Speaker 6: without strings. Attached because the other Nazi government has said
Speaker 6: they're not allowed to spend that money on armed guards
Speaker 6: at schools and shools, and that only on unarmed guards,
Speaker 6: and that's rageous. Well, that will lead to people downgrading
Speaker 6: security rather than upgrading security at a time of crisis.
Speaker 6: And finally, we will reform section five oh one of
Speaker 6: the Migration Act, the Character Provisions to make sure that
Speaker 6: we can cancel the visas and deport anyone who's involved
Speaker 6: in anti Semitism or glorifying terrorism.
Speaker 2: We've seen overnight scenes of Australians, including children on the streets,
Speaker 2: calling death to Jews somehow in response to the regime
Speaker 2: change in Syria.
Speaker 3: There's been so much of.
Speaker 2: This hatred over the past year, and you barely hear
Speaker 2: a word, let alone any action from law enforcement. What
Speaker 2: reaction should there be do you think, Well.
Speaker 6: I hope Charo, this is not yet a nun instance
Speaker 6: of incitement to violence against the Jewish community that goes unprosecuted,
Speaker 6: because we've had so many examples since the seventh of
Speaker 6: October of criminal incitement to violence at the federal and
Speaker 6: state level, and yet no charges have been laid, let
Speaker 6: alone anyone prosecuted or sent to prison over this. So
Speaker 6: we need a different response this time. We need our
Speaker 6: state and federal governments to lean in and to charge
Speaker 6: people with these offenses, because if you don't charge them,
Speaker 6: and if there aren't consequences, they become emboldened. And no
Speaker 6: wonder we've seen the scenes like this, No wonder said
Speaker 6: when people aren't being charged with terrorist organization symbols, when
Speaker 6: they're showing the flags of listed terrorist organizations, no wonder,
Speaker 6: they don't fear the consequences.
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen this morning has said that your remarks just
Speaker 2: calling for antisemitism to be dealt with.
Speaker 3: He's called them disgusting.
Speaker 2: What's your response to what Chris Bowen has had to
Speaker 2: say about you.
Speaker 6: Today, Well, Chris Bolin should be ashamed of the lack
Speaker 6: of response from his government since the seventh October to
Speaker 6: the anti Semitism crisis.
Speaker 1: He needs to.
Speaker 6: Understand, like Tony Burke and the other ministers need to
Speaker 6: understand that they're ministers in the Australian government for all Australians.
Speaker 6: They're not ministers for Western Sydney or just some of
Speaker 6: their constituents.
Speaker 1: They've got an.
Speaker 6: Obligation to protect all Australians, and it is a disgrace
Speaker 6: that to this day, four days on, we've still not
Speaker 6: heard from Tony Burke. He hasn't done a press conference,
Speaker 6: he hasn't done.
Speaker 1: A meter interview. I mean, do we seriously.
Speaker 6: Think that if it was a mosque instead of a
Speaker 6: synagogue that had been firebombed, that anybody would stand between
Speaker 6: Tony Burke and a television camera. He would have been
Speaker 6: out there on day one. But we're now on day
Speaker 6: four and he's still missing an action.
Speaker 2: And Chris Bowmen again couldn't speak about anti semitism today
Speaker 2: without also talking about Islamophobia, where one form of racism
Speaker 2: is at crisis point in this country.
Speaker 6: Correct, The evidence is very clear Anti Semitism is the
Speaker 6: most prolific form of hatred in our country. It is
Speaker 6: off the chart since the seventh October. Of course, we
Speaker 6: should call out other forms of racism when they occur,
Speaker 6: but you don't need to call out Islamophobia when there's
Speaker 6: been an instance of anti Semitism. The Jewish community is
Speaker 6: the only community whose experience of racism can't be called
Speaker 6: out in isolation, at least by our Prime minister. He
Speaker 6: always has to balance it again. Other communities and I
Speaker 6: think that is an abrogation of leadership and it's a
Speaker 6: moral failure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like having Tony Burker's Home Affairs Minister is
Speaker 2: a bit like having the Fox in charge of the Henhouse.
Speaker 6: It was a bizarre decision for the Prime Minister to
Speaker 6: appoint Tony Burke to this portfolio. The only reason why
Speaker 6: he would have done so is if he's putting Labour's
Speaker 6: political interests ahead of the national interest. They want to
Speaker 6: hold those seats in Western Sydney. They're worried that the
Speaker 6: Muslim Votes Matter movement will rise up and take those
Speaker 6: seats off them at the election, and so they put
Speaker 6: him in this position of power so he can approve
Speaker 6: Palestinian visas and do other things to appease extremists in
Speaker 6: our community, instead of putting someone in that position who
Speaker 6: could act in the national interest and protect all Australians.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is so important right now.
Speaker 2: Just finally, i'd like to ask your comment on the
Speaker 2: toppling of the Assad regime in Syria.
Speaker 3: Clearly this is.
Speaker 2: A good thing that this murderous regime is now over,
Speaker 2: Aside has reportedly fled to Russia. But we just don't
Speaker 2: know what comes next with these rebel forces and what
Speaker 2: the nature of that new government will be.
Speaker 6: Luck You're right, Charri. No one should mourn the collapse
Speaker 6: of the Assad regime, this siagime that used chemical weapons
Speaker 6: on its own people. And it is never a bad
Speaker 6: day when a proxy of the Iranian state, when a
Speaker 6: proxy of the Russian state falls over, but we should
Speaker 6: be sober about what might replace it. We know among
Speaker 6: the disparate group of rebels that have taken power, there
Speaker 6: are groups that have their origins in both ISIS and
Speaker 6: Al Qaeda. HTS, one of the key groups, is listed
Speaker 6: as a terrorist organization in Australia and around the world,
Speaker 6: but they have made commitments about how they intend to
Speaker 6: govern Syria going forward, and it's important that we hold
Speaker 6: them to those commitments because we have seen in other
Speaker 6: revolutions like this in the Middle East, particularly in Libya,
Speaker 6: that sometimes what replaces what had been before can be
Speaker 6: even worse, and it's critical that Syria does not become
Speaker 6: worse than it has already been during this terrible silvers
Speaker 6: of the war.
Speaker 2: James Patterson, thank you so much once again for your
Speaker 2: strength in fighting anti Semitis, and really appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Chary.
Speaker 2: Well still to come. Reports that are hostage, dear, could
Speaker 2: be imminent. This is breaking news tonight and I'm going
Speaker 2: to cross live to Israel for the latest. But first
Speaker 2: Cameron Milner and David Gazard will run through those dire
Speaker 2: poll figures where Albinizi was rated the weakest prime.
Speaker 3: Minister in decades.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you don't need polling to know
Speaker 2: that that's.
Speaker 3: Coming up after this quick break, welcome back.
Speaker 2: Well, lots more to come tonight, so let's get straight
Speaker 2: into it with our political panel former chief of staff
Speaker 2: to Bill Shorten, Cameron Milner and former advisor to John
Speaker 2: Howard at David Gazard. Welcome to you both. Well, let's
Speaker 2: return to those News poll results today. They were shocking
Speaker 2: for the prime minister. I mean the headline, the most
Speaker 2: voters now consider Albinizi the weakest prime minister in decades.
Speaker 2: His strong and Decisive leader rating has plummeted five points
Speaker 2: to forty four percent. Now, this is the lowest score
Speaker 2: for prime minister in this category since News Poll began
Speaker 2: measuring it in two.
Speaker 3: Thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: After and Rud's when Cameron, you've written yet another sensational
Speaker 2: piece on the nightly. Well, tell us just how weak
Speaker 2: is alban Easy in your view?
Speaker 15: Well, as we broke first on your program when we
Speaker 15: did the GXO JLP pole back in May, voters when
Speaker 15: they asked thought he was weak, useless and a liar.
Speaker 15: So this has been a view around for a while.
Speaker 15: But the thing critical about this to poll Shari is
Speaker 15: this was taken before the utterly disastrous, utterly disastrous response
Speaker 15: to the act of terrorism that was the at synagogue
Speaker 15: fire bombing in Melbourne. This is a bloke who was
Speaker 15: being briefed on the plane about a terrorist act and
Speaker 15: went to a fundraiser with Big Oil to raise more
Speaker 15: money for his campaign. This is a bloke who on
Speaker 15: Saturday saw other leaders going to the synagogue but had
Speaker 15: time to go off and play a game at tennis.
Speaker 15: This is a guy who made big time smears of
Speaker 15: Scott Morrison saying he doesn't hold a hose about the
Speaker 15: bushfires in Australia, but we know when it comes to
Speaker 15: fire bombing a synagogue, he holds a tennis racket. He
Speaker 15: holds a tennis rakt Shari. This guy is a disgrace.
Speaker 1: This should this.
Speaker 15: Guy should not be our prime minister any longer if
Speaker 15: this is how he responds to a national crisis.
Speaker 2: So true, David Gazard, what do you think about the
Speaker 2: response we've seen from Alberan easy over a terrorist attack?
Speaker 2: We on you it was a terrorist attack. It's taken
Speaker 2: authorities for days to label it as such. How do
Speaker 2: you think the Prime Minister's responded.
Speaker 16: Well, it's reprehensible and I think it lies the accusations
Speaker 16: that have been level against the Prime Minister for now
Speaker 16: months that he's thinking more about the seats he holds
Speaker 16: in Western Sydney than he is about the national interest.
Speaker 16: So we've got a community living in fear while the
Speaker 16: Prime Minister basically washes his hands or or comes to
Speaker 16: the party days late on declaring this terrorism. And to
Speaker 16: Cameron's point, I mean, this is sort of standard behavior
Speaker 16: from the Prime minister, you know, and it's no wonder
Speaker 16: that people are marking him down. He's in a cost
Speaker 16: of living crisis. He's a property wheeler and dealer with
Speaker 16: a four point three million dollar house on a cliff top.
Speaker 16: He's getting flight upgrades and now he says he's for
Speaker 16: Jewish community, but he's playing tennis when he clearly should
Speaker 16: be down at that synagogue and sympathizing and announcing clear
Speaker 16: action that he's going to assist that community. We don't
Speaker 16: get any of that from the Prime Minister.
Speaker 2: No, we've had nothing. And you know the task force
Speaker 2: that he did announce today, well he was forced into
Speaker 2: it because the opposition, the community, the media on the
Speaker 2: front page of every paper was criticizing him for lack
Speaker 2: of action. But it's not just on social cohesion. And
Speaker 2: again this is no problem just for Jewish Australians. All
Speaker 2: kind hearted Australians of all faiths despise the racism and
Speaker 2: the lawlessness and the aggression that we're seeing on our streets.
Speaker 2: But on the cost of living crisis. In the Resolve
Speaker 2: poll today, Cameron, fifty nine percent of voters say they're
Speaker 2: worse off than when Albanizi came to power, despite his
Speaker 2: campaign platform being on cost of living, only thirteen percent
Speaker 2: said they felt better off. I don't know who those
Speaker 2: thirteen percent could possibly have been, but Cameron, you know
Speaker 2: this is a major issue as well.
Speaker 3: The economy.
Speaker 15: Oh, the economies front and center are made worse by
Speaker 15: these acts of national terrorism that we're seeing specifically targeted
Speaker 15: the Jewish communy in Australia, but no cost of living
Speaker 15: is a huge issue for Labor and little wonder that
Speaker 15: people are feeling much worse off than three years ago
Speaker 15: because they've spit their COVID savings. They're actually on their
Speaker 15: you know, the bearings their pants, trying to pay mortgage
Speaker 15: rates at record levels, grocery bills, petrol. Everything's gone up
Speaker 15: under Albanize, everything's gone up under elbow and that's the
Speaker 15: problem for our bees. He just looks so blase into
Speaker 15: your point, David, so out of touch, so at a touch.
Speaker 15: You know, the retirement house on the top of the
Speaker 15: hill that only has room for a jocuzi, not a
Speaker 15: tennis court. This guy is so out of touch with
Speaker 15: what Australians are currently living through with their cost living crisis.
Speaker 1: David.
Speaker 2: In that Resolve poll that I just mentioned, they had
Speaker 2: Labour's primary sitting at twenty seven percent.
Speaker 3: From your extensive experience.
Speaker 2: With political campaigns, do you think it's now at a
Speaker 2: point where Labor will struggle to even form minority government.
Speaker 16: Look to form government as they did at the last
Speaker 16: election with the primary vote of thirty two point six
Speaker 16: percent was extraordinary. That is a historic low number one
Speaker 16: in three people giving their first preference to the Labor Party,
Speaker 16: and they still managed to cobble together a government with
Speaker 16: the support of Greens and Teals. Over the course of
Speaker 16: the last two and a half years, Anthony Alberanezi has
Speaker 16: shed five percentage points of that historic low number. He's
Speaker 16: now sitting at twenty seven if the Resolve poll is
Speaker 16: to believe. At the same time, that's on top of
Speaker 16: the thirty two percent he shared what somewhere between fifteen
Speaker 16: and twenty percent of the first primary vote base that
Speaker 16: he had. He's down down into one in every four
Speaker 16: voters giving their primary vote. But at the same time,
Speaker 16: his spending is at never before seen highs, which is
Speaker 16: pumped up inflation. He hasn't been able to cobble together
Speaker 16: any kind of serious cost of living package, which is
Speaker 16: what people have been looking for. He's been obsessed with
Speaker 16: the voice, he's obsessed now with Palestine. He seems distracted,
Speaker 16: as Cameron notes, with his own personal living situations. I
Speaker 16: mean these numbers to your point, I can't see him
Speaker 16: getting majority government, whether or not there's going to be
Speaker 16: enough Green and support to cobble together a minority government.
Speaker 1: I guess you know.
Speaker 16: I mean you look at the two PP numbers, is
Speaker 16: only marginally behind, so it is possible. Three months ago,
Speaker 16: no one thought a minority coalition government was possible. Now
Speaker 16: people are starting to talk about a majority coalition government
Speaker 16: with Peter Dutton as Prime Minister in.
Speaker 1: His own right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are, indeed, and it seems to me like
Speaker 2: died In is feeling pretty confident that that could happen
Speaker 2: as well. All right, Cararamean and David Gazard, great to
Speaker 2: see you both.
Speaker 3: Now, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: There's breaking news tonight that Hamas has provided the names
Speaker 2: of hostages and the details of their medical conditions to Israel.
Speaker 2: I'm going to cross life to Israel after this quick break.
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: In breaking news tonight, Channel twelve television in Israel has
Speaker 2: reported that Hamas has provided the names of hostages and
Speaker 2: details about their medical conditions to Israeli authorities. This is
Speaker 2: even said to include the names of sick and elderly individuals. Now,
Speaker 2: we're yet to have this information confirmed, and there are
Speaker 2: also unconfirmed reports that a hostage deal could be imminent
Speaker 2: or to discuss I'm joined now by Israel's Special Envoy
Speaker 2: to combating anti Semitism. Mikhail Kottler Wunch, Mikail, thank you
Speaker 2: very much for joining me live in Israel. Look, if
Speaker 2: this is true, this would be the most welcome news
Speaker 2: that we all desperately need.
Speaker 5: Look, it has been the most devastating time for more
Speaker 5: than four hundred and twenty days for now one hundred families, communities,
Speaker 5: and I would say the entire population in Israel that's
Speaker 5: been devastated by the continued holding of one hundred hostages.
Speaker 5: And yes, it would be welcome news. But I want
Speaker 5: to point out four of the hundred still held by
Speaker 5: a genocidal terror proxy of the Islamic Republican Iran, that
Speaker 5: is Kamas, who stole people from their beds and youngsters
Speaker 5: dancing at a peace festival on October seventh, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: Four of the one hundred that we count have actually
Speaker 5: been held by that Commas in Gaza for more than
Speaker 5: ten years. And the reason that that's important for me
Speaker 5: to underscore two deceased soldiers Adar Golden and Aron Choul,
Speaker 5: two civilians Averra Magisto and Hisham Assayad, And for more
Speaker 5: than ten years we have been at the UN we
Speaker 5: have spoken with a red cross, we have spoken with
Speaker 5: governments around the world and the systemic failure to uphold
Speaker 5: existing laws to what is a standing violation of international law.
Speaker 5: It's called the standing violation because every second of every minute,
Speaker 5: of every hour of every day of every week of
Speaker 5: every month of these ten years, the four human beings
Speaker 5: were held as currency, as human sacrifices, if you will,
Speaker 5: were enabled and emboldened the terror entities to actually then
Speaker 5: steal two hundred and fifty one more people and continue
Speaker 5: holding another now ninety six in addition to those four.
Speaker 5: And that is a very critical piece that we have
Speaker 5: to be clear about. It is a manifestation that is
Speaker 5: a manifestation of the systemic failure of democracies of Western
Speaker 5: powers to ensure that international law, the international rules based order,
Speaker 5: is applied equally and consistently across the board. By the way,
Speaker 5: not just on terror entities of course, who care not
Speaker 5: about international law for the international rules based order, but
Speaker 5: on the countries that have enabled them, including not just
Speaker 5: since October the seventh, twenty twenty three, but for the
Speaker 5: last ten years Qatar, turky and so on. And so
Speaker 5: that is just part and parcel of yes, the hope
Speaker 5: that we have to see those that are alive back
Speaker 5: to their families for rehabilitation, those that have been murdered
Speaker 5: returned for proper burial in Israel. But we have to
Speaker 5: be very clear terror terror enabled to dictate, if you will,
Speaker 5: the terms and conditions and equations by which democracies function
Speaker 5: is emboldened to do so in every other context, not
Speaker 5: just in this context, and not just in the geography
Speaker 5: that is the state of Israel.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that this time the reports are accurate,
Speaker 2: because you know, it's so hard for the families to
Speaker 2: get their hopes up and then to be devastated once again.
Speaker 3: But we'll keep on.
Speaker 2: Bringing everyone news of this as it unfolds, if it
Speaker 2: unfolds throughout the week. Now, Mikhail, we've only got a
Speaker 2: minute or so left, but I just want to ask
Speaker 2: you about the terrorist attack at the Adas Synagogue here
Speaker 2: in Australia. Australians are just despairing at the lack of
Speaker 2: leadership we've seen on anti Semitism, and you mentioned the
Speaker 2: UN votes. Our government has had only hostile positions at
Speaker 2: the UN. What do you think We've got thirty seconds now,
Speaker 2: what does the AB and easy government need to do.
Speaker 5: Look the Albanesi government, and I'm going to say again
Speaker 5: it's the same part of the systemic failure to call
Speaker 5: out with moral clarity and courage the anti Semitism, and
Speaker 5: it is a tsunami of antisemitism in Melbourne, in Montreal,
Speaker 5: in Washington, New York, around the world on and since
Speaker 5: October seventh, in response to the worst attack of Jews
Speaker 5: since the Holocaust by genocidal terror proxies of an Islamic
Speaker 5: regime in Iran. The failure to act, to apply existing policies,
Speaker 5: to apply existing rules, to ensure that what has been
Speaker 5: enabled by silence and by neutrality and by false moral
Speaker 5: equivalents top down, as you said, by government has.
Speaker 3: Actually unleashed percent riot one percent.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we've run out of time, Michal, thank you
Speaker 2: very much for joining us.
Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eight. And here is Paul
Speaker 3: in the man Cave.