WEBVTT - Sharri | 9 December 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:05.040 Live on Sky News. This is Sharry. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:12.719 Good evening and welcome to this special program live from Melbourne, 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.800 reporting on the terror attack at the Adas Israel Synagogue, 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:22.520 a synagogue that went from this lively, busy place of community. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:23.160 And prayer. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:41.800 To this a place of worship so violently destroyed, decimated 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.320 and desecrated. I saw this for myself today when I 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.599 was invited to walk through that shocking scene, and when 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.680 I spoke with the worshiper who survived but so easily 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.480 could have been killed, I felt compelled to witness this 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.200 and report on it, to bring you the full horror 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.480 of this attack, and to reflect on the visceral impact 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:09.399 it's had on all right thinking Australians, regardless of our 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:15.119 faith or race. Sadly, shockingly, these pictures show you what 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:20.440 antisemitism means. This is the hunting of Jews by arsonists, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.440 potentially with murder in their minds and hatred in their hearts, 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.920 right here in Melbourne, Australia, in twenty twenty four. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:31.319 Now bring you my. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.280 Full report from the synagogue in a moment. But make 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.560 no mistake, this is the worst attack on a place 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.400 of worship in Australia in recent history, with police today 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:46.200 officially declaring it a terrorist attack, and the Prime Minister 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.960 was today forced into action, embarrassed into action, and he 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:55.640 announced a special task force to investigate incidents of antisemitism. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:02.360 Yet Albanezi still hasn't visited the Adas Synagogue. Neither has 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.960 his Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke or any senior Cabinet 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.760 minister apart from outgoing rival Bill Shorten. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:11.720 Now, if this. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.480 Were a mosque, you can bet Alberizi and Burke would 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.800 have been there mere hours after it happened. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:20.600 Yeah, true to farm. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:27.400 We saw Albanesi government ministers speaking about Islamophobia today. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.519 He said that they shouldn't be that Islamophobia shouldn't be 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.200 mentioned in the same sentence as the Prime Minister has done. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.560 If James Patterson thinks there's no Islamophobia in Australia, he's wrong. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:37.679 He didn't say that, though. 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.280 He said that when something happens, it should be enough 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.120 to just denounce Sey and. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.040 He went on to say that they're not at the 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.000 same levels. Look, but the. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.200 Poilamaty many are you saying they are at the same levels, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.080 Because we've just seen a targeted attack on a synagogue. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.960 I'm saying, Patricia, that both exist, and I'm saying that 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:55.079 both can be called out. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.280 But there's no Islamophobia crisis. And this is not a mosque, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:03.280 it's a synagogu. It's Jewish people who are being targeted. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:08.400 But this doesn't fit Albanesi's preferred narrative of Palestinians being 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:13.240 the victims. That's what he's argued throughout his parliamentary career. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.240 It's why he's failed to meet the moment as this 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.440 anti Semitism crisis erupted. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:20.400 He has not. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.960 Risen to the occasion of being Prime Minister, where he's 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:31.239 obligated to protect all Australians, yet he's allowed one minority group, Jews, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:37.240 to be persecuted. The problem is we literally have pro 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:43.200 Palestinian activists in charge of fixing anti Semitism in our country. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.560 Now remember this was Albanesi from early in his political career, 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.080 but he was already a federal MP in Canberra. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.520 Of Israel has been truan. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:06.360 We've never got the gunships witchas Abrisolf. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:13.160 And this activism continued throughout Albanese's time in parliament. In 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:18.599 twenty seventeen, just two years before Albanesi became opposition leader. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:23.560 He and Tony Burke had a policy forum on Palestine 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.599 with special guest fellow pro Palestinian activist Bob Carr. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.039 But here's my point. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.560 Can you imagine putting the current antisemitism crisis in the 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.320 hands of one of the protesters. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.120 You'd simply never do it. Yet that's what we. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.400 Have here with alban Easy and Tony Burke. It's like 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:50.640 having the fox in charge of the hen House. Our 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.839 safety has been categorically put at risk by this government's 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.919 lack of action on antisemitism, and how can the Prime 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.680 Minister claim with us straight face, as he did on 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.800 the weekend, that he's done all he can on anti Semitism. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:11.560 On the contrary, Albanesi and Pennywog have only emboldened the haters. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:17.400 Their moral confusion has encouraged the Israel haters and has 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:23.880 allowed anti Semitism to fester. They've wrongly demonized Israel and 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:28.320 thus made Jews a target because in the minds of 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:33.359 the haters, Jews are inseparable from Israel, because Israel is 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:38.080 the Jewish homeland. Watching the anti Semitism that was erupting, 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.880 the Albanese government had a responsibility not to fix the 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.760 Middle East war, but to ensure that all Australians were 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:52.200 safe and protected. Instead, they tried to adjudicate the war. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:57.800 Penniwang should have said Israel has a right a duty 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.520 to defend itself and it needs to bring its hostages home. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.680 She should have said that any nation would do the same, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.040 and if she had a criticism, she could have made 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:13.359 it in private, knowing how public provocative language could inflame 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:18.200 tensions here, but she dangerously chose not to do that. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.800 The Prime Minister has been very slow to acknowledge there's 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.520 an antisemitism issue, and he probably wouldn't be acting at 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.680 all if he hadn't been forced into it with accusations 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.440 that he's been missing in action, literally blasted across the 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.919 front page of the newspaper. Well after four days of 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.280 us all watching on in bewilderment at his apparent lack 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.159 of interest in the fact a synagogue had burnt down. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.880 The Prime Minister finally held a press conference today with 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.400 the AFP, ASIO and Attorney General. But if it weren't 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:57.760 for the media and the principled stand taken by Peter Dutton, 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:03.360 James Patterson, Josh fen Berg and the Jewish community leaders. Well, 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.880 it's unlikely alb and Easy would have announced this today. 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.120 Today I can also announce that we have established AFP 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:16.760 Special Operation Averalite for Anti Semitism. This is in response 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.000 to the attack class Friday morning that is now the 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.880 third arson attack after the attack on Josh Burn's electorate 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.520 office and the Sydney Willara car incident. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.280 And yet he still hasn't visited the side of what 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:40.120 is now officially a declared terrorist incident. Well, like me, 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.800 Peter Darton was there today. He walked through the synagogue 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.560 and he found it emotional to. 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:53.640 See the half bird books, scriptures and the devastation to 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:58.000 a place that otherwise is peaceful and allows people to 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:02.280 practice their faith and to to share each other's company. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.120 To be disrupted in that way is a horrible thing 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:06.440 to see. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:07.960 Quite emotional seeing it is. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.760 It is actually yes, yeah, I think when you see 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.560 and it's not just the site, it's the smell as well, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:19.280 the stench of the fire and you can see where people, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:24.240 young children, others have been sitting. Is entirely predictable, as 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.400 you've reported to your great credit, on our university campuses 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:32.439 and in our streets, people have been crossing red lines 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.200 for the last thirteen months. They've acted with gross indecency 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.480 and now, of course it's culminated in this terrorist attack 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.240 and maybe it should be surprised by that, and we 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.120 need to work out how we can quickly resolve these 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.200 issues so that the next terrorist attack doesn't take place. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.640 Well, I asked Peter Dutton if Albin Easy should turn up, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:58.520 but instead Alban Easy played tennis over the weekend. Action 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.560 on anti Semitism, Darton said should have been taken fourteen 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.280 months ago. Peter, you've been here, you've shown the leadership 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.000 to actually come and visit. The Prime Minister has it 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.200 and we've just found out it's just been reported that 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.800 he took time out to play tennis instead of dealing 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.600 with this issue over the weekend. What's your response to 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.000 the fact that he went and played tennis literally while 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.760 a synagogue was Burnie Well. 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.320 I think it's really a story of the last thirteen 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:31.320 months and when we saw those horrible circumstances and protests 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.600 on the steps of the Sydney Opera House, that was 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.560 really the time when the Prime Minister had to step up, 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.960 because that would have sent a clear message that we 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.600 had no tolerance for the any Semitic conduct and the 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.600 blatant racism that was on display that night. But it's 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.600 just compounded since then, and so as I say, nobody 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.000 should be surprised that it's culminated in a terrorist event. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.920 And I think the Prime Minister can tell you about 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.760 his own position and why the government's taken a position 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.880 which I think is incomprehensible to my right thinking. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.240 Australians, you think you should come visit. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.439 I think he should come visit, and I think it 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:05.880 would be the respectful thing to do. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:07.679 Well. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.440 As Peter Dutton says, the antisemitism crisis should never have 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:17.360 come to this. Pennywong and Albenizi need to be strongly 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.440 reminded of exactly what their jobs are. Their role is 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:26.280 to govern for Australia. It's not to interfere in foreign wars. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.440 It's not to tell a sovereign nation how to act 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.520 when it comes under attack with its civilians killed and 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:39.080 kidnapped in an unprovoked act of terror. Albanizi leads the 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:44.560 Australian government, not the Palestinian government. His most basic requirement 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.480 in office is to provide a safe environment for all 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.880 of us in Australia. Yet he's disgracefully failed to do this. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:58.720 Let's hope today is the start of proper leadership, and 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:07.000 yet somehow I doubt it. Well, it's another huge show tonight. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.839 Shutout Home Affairs Minister James Patterson will join us to 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.480 talk about what he says the government needs to do 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.559 to fix anti Semitism. I'll also get his thoughts on 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.680 the overthrow of the Sad regime in Syria. Plus Cameron Milner, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.880 David Gazzard, Israel's anti Semitism envoy. She's going to join 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.360 me from Israel later in the show. Steve Priceoy Mackenzie 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.240 as well. But now let's turn to our special report 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.640 where we show you the utter devastation inside the Addas 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.680 Israel Synagogue. I went in with you, me a businessman 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.240 who was studying inside at the time of the fire bombing. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.679 It was profoundly heartbreaking. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:12:01.560 Here's that report, string Aliens and the deep faith that 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.040 unites us all. 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.280 We're outside the synagogue. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.760 We're about to go inside and witness the extent of 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:16.960 the damage after the devastating fire bombing early on Friday morning. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.199 You're me thank you so much for taking us inside. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:21.880 You're the only one here. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:29.160 When this happens here, so you're me the The first 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.880 thing that hits you is the smell. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.360 It's so strong, and the soot. The police tape. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.439 This shouldn't be what it's like walking into a synagogue. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:39.120 It shouldn't. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.440 This main area of the synagogue where the congregants come. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.360 I mean it is damaged, but largely it hasn't been 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:50.360 burnt to the ground. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.679 Windows have a little bit miracle, miracle this one. It's 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.160 upsetting that such a thing could happen here in Australia. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:12:59.679 It's devastating. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.240 So Umi, let's go through to where the fire really 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:10.760 ripped through the synagogue. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:12.160 Oh, look at this. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:17.559 It's oh, it's just it's heartbreaking. It's truly heartbreaking. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.960 You were over here in the quiet early hours of 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.400 the morning, absolute silence. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:35.440 Tell us what happened. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.240 So I was sitting there, so you can see my 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.800 books there at the first table there on the left 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.559 hand side. On the right hand side of the table, 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:46.000 there's some books still they're not completely burnt. And I 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.839 was studying. Suddenly I hit his big bank. It felt 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.240 like a sledgehammer on a. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.640 Wooden door, and it was on this door, I think, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:53.400 so I don't know. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.880 But then a second later another bank and I saw 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.880 glass flying out, so I knew that I was under attack. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.120 So I just jumped up, ran out, and I forgot 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.920 my phone. I've been terrifying, terrified, Yes I was, But 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.080 I am part of Hatsula, and I've got a radio 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.040 on me, a walkie talkie, and I got on there and. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:15.960 I said, I'm under attack. Can I have back up? 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.240 This is where the fire really ripped through. This is 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.920 the most destruction in the synagogue. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.400 What usually happens in this room. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.680 In this room, people study and in about six thirty 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.400 that's when we start praying. So all this is full 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.880 of books all around the front, full of books all 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.000 over there is full of books that's all gone with 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:40.480 the fire. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:51.320 You can just see. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.560 Here the burnt prayer books. It's it's truly. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.720 You wouldn't expect to see this in Australia in twenty 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:58.240 twenty four. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:14:59.280 This is absolutely not. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:04.680 Definitely, you're a proud Jew. You're living in Australia, a 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:10.280 peaceful country. To think that you're in your house of worship, just. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.880 Such a thing would happen. I don't believe. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.240 I wouldn't believe that such a thing would happen here 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.880 in Australia. It's so far away from the world. Why 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.000 should anyone target us. I walk on the street normally, 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.160 I've got nothing against anyone, and I thought no one 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.360 has ended against us. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.960 It was just in Israel recently for the anniversary of 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.640 October seven, and I went down to Kidbutz Vary and 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:39.360 I saw how hermas burnt that Kidbutz to pieces and 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.800 kidnapped innocent families. And then you walk in here, and 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.320 I never expected to see that here in Australia, that 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:57.240 similar fire, the same technique. Michael, you're the president of 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.080 this synagogue. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:15:59.880 What's it like to see it like that? 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.400 It's very emotional and upsetting. It's very difficult for us 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.400 to see this, especially my parents. My grand parents will 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.920 come after the war with shirts on the back. We're 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:13.080 knocking at all. Now we have to contain their legacy. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:14.480 Did you ever man? 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:15.240 Never? Never. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.360 I thought possibly could be a bit off hate, a 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.880 bit of shouting, bit of scheming. I never imagined it's 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.480 going to come to this. I was up earty. I 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.360 got to call it ten plus five Friday the morning 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.800 I was totally shocked at God's here within five minutes, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.200 and I just couldn't function all day and I still 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.320 can't function. And it's going to be a huge project, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.320 huge rebuilding project. All the everything. You see what happens 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.160 in the Middle Elites. We thought we're in island, we're 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.800 far away from the world. We will be immune from 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.000 all the issues and the problems. What happened in the world. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.160 We do not expect this is what happened here at all. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.600 How do you explain this sort of terror attack to 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.400 your children and grandchildren. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.600 It's very difficult the children, and not only the children, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.960 a lot of members, a lot of adults are traumatized, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.200 which they can come to terms with it. And when 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.960 we rebuilt, which will come into tens of millions. 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:01.800 Of dollars to the buildings. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.199 Again, we're going to have to put high security in 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.440 high everything. Not they will not come. They traumatize, they're scared. 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.800 What happened to you, Meik Truman happened to them again. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.359 So William, can you tell us this incredible story of 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:24.040 this Torres scroll surviving now to synagogue attacks. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:30.040 The synagogue was fire bombed in Brutdslaver. As you can see, 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.400 there's a new coat they were put on there because 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.840 the old coat was damaged and says survived the Holocaust 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:40.399 in Brutdoslav And when my parents came to Australia in 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.960 nineteen forty eight, they built. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:43.760 Up the synagogue. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.040 They donated to the synagogue and for the second time 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.720 it has to be rescued from the fire bombing by 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.719 the same hatred that was there during the Nazi period 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.040 and seems to have continued over here now in Australia. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.760 How do you feel about that sort of anti semitism 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.679 of the Holocaust that your parents survived. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.119 Until it's unbelievable and they would be turning their graves 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.000 to think this happening in the country they came to, 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.040 a country they thought the best country. The happiest day 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.360 of my father's life is the day got his naturalization 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:15.720 to be Australian citizen. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:17.880 Was the happiest day of his life. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.359 He couldn't believe it was so proud to be in 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.920 Australian And to see this happening over here just breaks 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:24.399 your heart. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:29.199 Your parents aren't alive today. What do you think they'd 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.400 be thinking about. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:31.640 Turning their graves think? 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.320 And that just couldn't happen the country they loved with 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.160 all their heart came to Australia ninety forty, I didn't 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.000 want to change a thing. They thought this was the 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.879 Golden Mednner meaning the golden country, that this is the 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.879 country to live in, free and happy. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.800 But unfortunately it turned out to be how it is. 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:55.600 The Prime Minister on Friday said anti Semitism has always 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.040 been around, Sure it has, but not in Australia. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.680 It hasn't. I've never felt that Australia not like this. 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:09.000 Okay, Eleiana, your great grandparents actually founded this synagogue, Yeah, 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:09.480 they did. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:14.440 It's really upsetting to see that in our country, Australia, 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.320 where it's known for its diversity and multiculturism, that there 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.040 is such hatred amongst us and on the streets, and 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.119 it's resulted in the burning. 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.440 Of a synagogue where this is a. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.760 Place of worship and where my family is deeply connected to. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:36.040 And my grandparents helped establish this synagogue where they escaped 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:41.600 this ant Semitism in Europe where there was many burnings 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.800 of synagogues there and they came here for safety, and 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.240 they came here to set up a new life where 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.520 they could be proud Jews, but I think they would 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:55.640 be truly in disbelief of what is happening currently here 0:19:55.800 --> 0:20:00.120 in our country. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.840 It's just heart wrenching, isn't it. And if you want 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.600 to donate to help the rebuild, no matter how small, 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:15.080 the website to go to is www dot Rebuild a DAS. 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:21.680 That's ADAS dot com, Rebuild a Das dot com. All right, 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.359 we're going to come back to that topic later in 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.600 the show, but now let's bring in tonight's panel, Sky 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.360 News host Steve Price and Liberal MP Zoe Mackenzie. 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.520 Great to see you both here in Melbourne for once. 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.280 We welcome now the Prime Minister was caught out today 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:41.000 playing tennis in Codderslow while the community and all Australians 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:42.719 were horrified at this terror attack. 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.680 Steve Price, how can you believe he. 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.919 Was playing tennis instead of addressing the nation on this 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:49.880 important issue. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.720 I was staggered that he stayed in Perth for the 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:56.320 whole weekend. Forget the tennis. Even if it wasn't playing tennis. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.520 I couldn't understand why this happened Friday morning very early. 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.760 As we know, he should have come straight back to 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.320 Victoria and should have gone there on the Friday, but 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.159 then he doesn't go there on the Saturday. Then you 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:10.320 get two days of he doesn't even give a media conference, 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.240 doesn't talk about it, and then when he was asked 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.280 about playing tennis today, he said, oh, I didn't play 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.760 tennis on Sunday morning. And then someone said, what we 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.399 got it wrong, have we? But he then admitted that 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.119 he was playing tennis in the afternoon for two hours. 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.600 I mean, it's such a bad, bad look these people. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.040 And the premier is no better, Jacinda Allen, I just 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.120 completely lost the plot. They don't get it. 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.040 Do you think it's his Hawaii moment? Oh, Zoey McKenzie. 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.000 Oh, he's had a few of these moments, I think 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:41.680 where he's just shown a real tone deafness, whether it's 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.760 cost of living, pressures on families, pressures on small business, 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.400 red tape, industrial relations, and now these may I say 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:52.600 this is one off now three really significant fire bombing instances, 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:57.920 but hundreds of other instances, people being attacked on the streets, 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.920 hit on the streets, abused on the street, eggs being 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.720 thrown at them, being spat on in the city. There 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:09.560 was plenty of evidence of a proper narrative proper leadership 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.160 being required in October of last year. 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.200 The fact that we're still here. 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.440 In December and there are days of songs. So he 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.080 didn't send out Richard Marles WTPM, he's just down the road, 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.800 didn't send out the attorney general. He's even closer to 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:22.440 the synagogue. 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.040 You know where the premier was now, I'm in a 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:25.520 pub on Sunday. 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:26.800 She didn't go to that vigil. 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.200 She was in Northcotte in a hotel making an announcement 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:31.480 about licensing laws. 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.359 The leadership is absolutely disgraceful. 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.600 And you know Melbourne, I think, does you know we're 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.120 seeing anti semitism everywhere. It feels like it's been particularly 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:44.400 acute in this community. I think at least new Southews 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:48.160 Premier Chris Mens, his instincts are in the right place. Yes, 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.119 we haven't had enough law enforcement action, but his heart's 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.760 in the right place. He came out on the weekend 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.240 and he said, well, we need a banned protest outside 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.320 of synagogue. This is what I've been saying for such 0:22:58.320 --> 0:22:58.800 a long time. 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.800 You can't just protest just Senator Allen said tonight that 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.439 she won't even introduce a permit system to stop people 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.280 marching your a call. As you report at the time 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.679 that that march past to Senegorge and Sydney, it was 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.359 denied a permit and they changed the route. She was 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.000 asked again tonight, will you put in a permit system 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:19.719 to stop pro Palestinian marches carrying a Palestinian flag shouting 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.040 out from the river to the sea. 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:25.040 No, it's the most basic thing that should be done. Look, 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.480 I want to turn to another couple of stories that 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.520 are around today. We will come back to this. I've 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.800 got James Patterson on the show a bit later. Plus 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.359 Israel's Auntie Seventi is of mine, so I'm going to 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.480 have full coverage tonight. But we are seeing reports in 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.520 the Herald Sun today about just how much the controversial 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.840 First Nations People ambassador is costing. Now, we are already 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:49.760 know that the salary is nearly eight hundred thousand dollars, 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.600 but Steve, now we've got this report that DEFACT is 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.800 also awarding a consultancy firm more than a quarter of 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.040 a million dollars to help develop a policy strategy. 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.360 And this follows that ambassador's travel which was I think 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.080 one hundred and forty five thousand dollars worth of business 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:10.160 class airfares around the world, talking about a separate indigenous 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.480 foreign policy that apparently we're going to introduce. I mean, 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.919 since when do we have an indigenous foreign policy Peter Dutton. 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.320 I think Zoe said he's going to scrap it, isn't he? 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:21.800 Not that I've seen today, necessarily, but that would be 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.040 a logical investigation to make that. Together with the other 0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.520 three hundred and sixteen billion dollars of additional funding that 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.920 have contributed thirty six thousand additional public servants in Canberra, 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.600 it's quite a long list of expenditure that we need 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:37.160 to start with if ever we get back into government Canberra. 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.560 Zoie, maybe Peter Dutton needs to announce an elon musk 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:42.240 vivak Ramaswami style. 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.400 Zos Well, I think that's already on Benevisionzy. To be fair, 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:46.000 everything that he. 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:47.639 Came out and said on the weekend that this government 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.600 needed to do, they've actually gone and done just four 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:54.080 days too late. So again it's Peter's leadership on the 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.840 weekend saying we need to have an antisemitism task force, 0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.200 we need to look at whether we should take away 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.400 visas for people who have committed anti Semitic acts. I 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.520 was recently in India with a bunch of German politicians. 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.159 They actually take away citizenship if it's been found that 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.680 somebody committed a grave anti Semitic act. So again Peter 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.639 is leading the debate and the Prime Minister has come slowly, 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:15.040 slowly up behind. 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:16.240 Who's the mask? 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:17.320 Who we're going to like? 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:18.520 Go boss? 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.280 We'd have to work out who should be appointed to it. 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:22.760 But it's a good idea. 0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:23.920 It's a fantastic idea. 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.119 The public services bloated a. 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.560 Six thousand extra since albody's he was elected. 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.680 Yeah, it's costed and we're the bunch of mopouts already. 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:36.480 Intense it makes sense, absolutely ridiculous. 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.640 Yeah, we should maybe get Peter Dutton on the show 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.480 and speak to him about that idea. It is possible 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.240 that he's going to be the Prime minister because we've 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:48.160 seen today two disastrous polls for alban Easy News poll 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.080 in the Australian and Resolve in the Herald, which had 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:55.960 Labour's primary just twenty seven percent. I mean, you'd think 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.280 they can't really win with a twenty seven percent primary. 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:00.880 Steve, do you think it's. 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.359 Now looking like Peter Dutton could went outright. I mean 0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.200 we always talk about how the most likely scenario is 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:08.720 Albanesi and minority government. 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.960 But do you reckon now? People are just turning off. 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.720 You know that the Prime Minister has lost the confidence. 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:19.040 Of Australia absolutely, I mean he is a leader is shot. 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.080 I mean that poll today showed that the preferred prime 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:27.040 minister attitudes towards Anthony Albanezia the worst in Newspole history. 0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.439 So he's gone. I mean Labor has to stick with him. 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.760 They can't change leaders to en Now. In the election, 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.240 Ken Peter Dutton beat him, I think. So it's a 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.119 lot of seats that Zoe and the Coalition have got 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:41.680 to win. But Peter Dutton is giving the right messages. 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.560 I mean he's telling things, telling the people things they 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.080 want to hear. And it'll be interesting to see the 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.680 nuclear policy when it's released this week and what sort 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:52.240 of blowback that gets from the public. But remember this poll, 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.280 which is the worst ever in Newspol history for Elbow, 0:26:56.200 --> 0:27:00.119 was before what happened on Friday at the synagogue and 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.879 before we found out he was playing tennis. 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:02.879 That's what it's like. 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.160 Now, Yeah, good point, Zoe, What do you think. I mean, 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:10.240 if it was a contest just between the Coalition and Labor, 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.960 you'd think probably Peter Dutton would win. But then there's 0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.199 the question of the Teals how many seats are you 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.080 and a cross batch? But on the Teals question, how 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.920 many seats realistically do you think the Coalition can win back? 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.359 Well, I think it's all a question of people understanding 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.400 that when they vote Teal they probably get something else eventually. 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.840 So the question for each Teal in the field is 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.600 who will you back in the questions of government majority 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:39.080 and supply in particular, So every single one this time 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.280 we now know precisely what they're choosing between, whether it 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.359 is it Dutton government, a coalition government with the record 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.160 we had for the previous twelve years, or this government 0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.240 and its continuation. Steve and I turns out live quite 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.119 close to each other. You wouldn't meet a man or 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.280 a woman on the street who says Elbow's done a 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.919 good job. I have got endless shops in what is 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.000 a tourism zone. As we head into the peak of summer, 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.840 all businesses are closing, left, right and center. They're all 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.920 backed by their mortgage which is costing them on average 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.760 twenty six thousand dollars extra just in interest. 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:08.760 Payments every year. 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.720 No one is saying thanks Albow, Steve. 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.560 What do you think I mean? I saw Tim Wilson 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:15.159 out today. 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:20.800 He's trying to unsee Zoe Daniels in Goldstein. What do 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.159 you think I mean? I think it seems like a 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.680 Legris spender will be tough to beat. In Wantworth. Roeknox 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.080 is giving it a good shot. She's working very hard. 0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.119 What's your sense of the tials in Melbourne. 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.119 Well, in Melbourne Victoria, I think, and Zoe correct me 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.320 if I'm wrong. I think they can probably get Cooljong 0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.600 back Manik Ryan has not been a good member at all, 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.360 and the Liberals have chosen fantastic Emilia Hayman. That's a 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.560 great candidate. I think Zoey Daniels is in trouble in Goldstein. 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.920 I think Tim Wilson, even though he lost to her 0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.400 at the last election, probably he could. They could pick 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:55.560 that up. I think that's a real possibility. In Sydney, 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.320 I think one of those Northern Beaches seats they can 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.520 probably get back. So it's a work in progress, but 0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.800 I think in general, the people who voted to you 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.719 last time unless they're completely committed to the Teal cause 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.000 would be disappointed in what those people delivered. They haven't 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:13.600 done anything for anybody. 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:15.920 Yeah, exactly, And I think a lot of the Teal 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.720 vote last time was a protest vote against Scott Morrison. 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:20.600 Yes, it was an individual which. 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.520 We won't see this time around. All right, Zo McKenzie, 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.280 Steve Price. So great to be here with you in 0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:25.960 Melvin tonight. 0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:26.600 Thank you, Cherry. 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.360 Now still to come? Is it all over? 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.640 Red Rover for alban easy, with Australians fed up with 0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.800 his leadership and the vast majority rejecting the. 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.560 Notion he has their back. 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.760 Plus Shutou Home Affairs Minister James Patterson will join me 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:45.280 next with what Anthony Albertezi needs to do specifically to 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:53.800 fix this antisemitism crisis. That's after this quick break, welcome back. 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:54.200 Well. 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:59.040 Since October seven, Senator James Patterson has been outstanding and 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:03.240 steadfast in calling out Labour's lack of moral clarity on 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:04.440 anti Semitism. 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:06.480 The problem should. 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.800 Have been nipped in the bud immediately after the Upper 0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:12.880 House protest some fourteen months ago. Or to discuss this 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.560 and what should be done, I caught up with James 0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.959 Patterson earlier today, James Patterson, thank you so much for 0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.680 your time. We're standing here outside the adust Synagogue. 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:24.440 Many of us. 0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:29.080 Are asking how did antisemitism in Australia get to this point. 0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.880 I think the ansashari is that the Prime Minister ignored 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.960 the warnings. He ignored the Jewish community, he ignored the opposition, 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.600 he ignored so many people who've been crying out for 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.000 fourteen months that anti Semitism is out of control in 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.080 our country and that if something serious wasn't done, then 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.000 something tragic would happen. And this is the tragic thing. 0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:46.719 That has happened. 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.360 It is a miracle that no one died, but someone 0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:53.040 easily could have. And unfortunately, there's still possibility this will 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.320 get worse. As far as we know, the people behind 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.160 this are still at large, and there could be others 0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.320 in the community who are seeking to copy it. And 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.480 that's why we need a strong response from the beginning, 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.240 a strong moral response calling out anti semitism, and a 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.640 strong operational response enforcing the law, making sure there are 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:12.000 consequences for extremists and their behavior. Otherwise they would become emboldened, 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:12.520 and they have. 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.280 Been, and that's by so many Australians, particularly in the 0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.080 Jewish community, are feeling so. 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.280 Anxious at the moment. 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.360 James, you and Peter Darton have been so strong on 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.800 the need to tackle anti semitism. Today you've come out 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:28.600 and said precisely what measures you think need to be taken. 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:30.400 Can you talk us through them? 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.600 Well, we've heard the Jewish community when they say the 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.800 number one thing they want from governance is for the 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.000 law to be enforced. And so we've announced that we 0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:40.720 will establish a new AFP led task force to tackle 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.840 antisemitism that will include Border Force and AZIO and our 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.120 other key intelligence and security agencies at the federal level, 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.240 and that we will direct them through a ministry or 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:54.280 direction to prioritize anti semitism and particularly unresolved complaints. We 0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.520 also want them to look back on complaints that they've 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.280 decided not to proceed with charges for, because we want 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.400 to make sure they are consequences for the people who've 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.320 done what they've done. We'll also ensure that the Executive 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.360 Council of Australian Injuries request for thirty two point five 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.480 million dollars of security funding will be delivered, but critically 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.400 without strings. Attached because the other Nazi government has said 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.240 they're not allowed to spend that money on armed guards 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.480 at schools and shools, and that only on unarmed guards, 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.120 and that's rageous. Well, that will lead to people downgrading 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.960 security rather than upgrading security at a time of crisis. 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.640 And finally, we will reform section five oh one of 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.320 the Migration Act, the Character Provisions to make sure that 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.600 we can cancel the visas and deport anyone who's involved 0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.840 in anti Semitism or glorifying terrorism. 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:41.400 We've seen overnight scenes of Australians, including children on the streets, 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:45.760 calling death to Jews somehow in response to the regime 0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.000 change in Syria. 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:48.480 There's been so much of. 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.840 This hatred over the past year, and you barely hear 0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.720 a word, let alone any action from law enforcement. What 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.280 reaction should there be do you think, Well. 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.720 I hope Charo, this is not yet a nun instance 0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:04.520 of incitement to violence against the Jewish community that goes unprosecuted, 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.240 because we've had so many examples since the seventh of 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.440 October of criminal incitement to violence at the federal and 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.959 state level, and yet no charges have been laid, let 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.680 alone anyone prosecuted or sent to prison over this. So 0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:17.480 we need a different response this time. We need our 0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.000 state and federal governments to lean in and to charge 0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.320 people with these offenses, because if you don't charge them, 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.120 and if there aren't consequences, they become emboldened. And no 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.960 wonder we've seen the scenes like this, No wonder said 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.240 when people aren't being charged with terrorist organization symbols, when 0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.200 they're showing the flags of listed terrorist organizations, no wonder, 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:35.400 they don't fear the consequences. 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.280 Chris Bowen this morning has said that your remarks just 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.520 calling for antisemitism to be dealt with. 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.760 He's called them disgusting. 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.040 What's your response to what Chris Bowen has had to 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:47.680 say about you. 0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.960 Today, Well, Chris Bolin should be ashamed of the lack 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.040 of response from his government since the seventh October to 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:54.400 the anti Semitism crisis. 0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:54.920 He needs to. 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.200 Understand, like Tony Burke and the other ministers need to 0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.560 understand that they're ministers in the Australian government for all Australians. 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.800 They're not ministers for Western Sydney or just some of 0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:03.640 their constituents. 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:04.360 They've got an. 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.920 Obligation to protect all Australians, and it is a disgrace 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.480 that to this day, four days on, we've still not 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.720 heard from Tony Burke. He hasn't done a press conference, 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:12.399 he hasn't done. 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.480 A meter interview. I mean, do we seriously. 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.239 Think that if it was a mosque instead of a 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.440 synagogue that had been firebombed, that anybody would stand between 0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.279 Tony Burke and a television camera. He would have been 0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:23.080 out there on day one. But we're now on day 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:24.640 four and he's still missing an action. 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.960 And Chris Bowmen again couldn't speak about anti semitism today 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:33.719 without also talking about Islamophobia, where one form of racism 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.720 is at crisis point in this country. 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.040 Correct, The evidence is very clear Anti Semitism is the 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.239 most prolific form of hatred in our country. It is 0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.000 off the chart since the seventh October. Of course, we 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.600 should call out other forms of racism when they occur, 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.239 but you don't need to call out Islamophobia when there's 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.920 been an instance of anti Semitism. The Jewish community is 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.279 the only community whose experience of racism can't be called 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.759 out in isolation, at least by our Prime minister. He 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.080 always has to balance it again. Other communities and I 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.200 think that is an abrogation of leadership and it's a 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:04.000 moral failure. 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:04.640 Yeah. 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.840 I feel like having Tony Burker's Home Affairs Minister is 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.520 a bit like having the Fox in charge of the Henhouse. 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.319 It was a bizarre decision for the Prime Minister to 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.239 appoint Tony Burke to this portfolio. The only reason why 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.040 he would have done so is if he's putting Labour's 0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.040 political interests ahead of the national interest. They want to 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.480 hold those seats in Western Sydney. They're worried that the 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.080 Muslim Votes Matter movement will rise up and take those 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.319 seats off them at the election, and so they put 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.240 him in this position of power so he can approve 0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.600 Palestinian visas and do other things to appease extremists in 0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.359 our community, instead of putting someone in that position who 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.680 could act in the national interest and protect all Australians. 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:40.600 Yeah, which is so important right now. 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.840 Just finally, i'd like to ask your comment on the 0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.400 toppling of the Assad regime in Syria. 0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:49.719 Clearly this is. 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.480 A good thing that this murderous regime is now over, 0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.000 Aside has reportedly fled to Russia. But we just don't 0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.160 know what comes next with these rebel forces and what 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.560 the nature of that new government will be. 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.600 Luck You're right, Charri. No one should mourn the collapse 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.880 of the Assad regime, this siagime that used chemical weapons 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.239 on its own people. And it is never a bad 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.759 day when a proxy of the Iranian state, when a 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.520 proxy of the Russian state falls over, but we should 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.120 be sober about what might replace it. We know among 0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.000 the disparate group of rebels that have taken power, there 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.440 are groups that have their origins in both ISIS and 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.360 Al Qaeda. HTS, one of the key groups, is listed 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.520 as a terrorist organization in Australia and around the world, 0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.080 but they have made commitments about how they intend to 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.880 govern Syria going forward, and it's important that we hold 0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.399 them to those commitments because we have seen in other 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.319 revolutions like this in the Middle East, particularly in Libya, 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.160 that sometimes what replaces what had been before can be 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.880 even worse, and it's critical that Syria does not become 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.440 worse than it has already been during this terrible silvers 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:48.799 of the war. 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.120 James Patterson, thank you so much once again for your 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.239 strength in fighting anti Semitis, and really appreciate your time. 0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:55.919 Thank you, Chary. 0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.399 Well still to come. Reports that are hostage, dear, could 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.719 be imminent. This is breaking news tonight and I'm going 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.920 to cross live to Israel for the latest. But first 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.440 Cameron Milner and David Gazard will run through those dire 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:13.440 poll figures where Albinizi was rated the weakest prime. 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:14.280 Minister in decades. 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.640 I'll tell you what you don't need polling to know 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:17.719 that that's. 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:23.839 Coming up after this quick break, welcome back. 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.160 Well, lots more to come tonight, so let's get straight 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.040 into it with our political panel former chief of staff 0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.480 to Bill Shorten, Cameron Milner and former advisor to John 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.879 Howard at David Gazard. Welcome to you both. Well, let's 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.760 return to those News poll results today. They were shocking 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.680 for the prime minister. I mean the headline, the most 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:47.000 voters now consider Albinizi the weakest prime minister in decades. 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.280 His strong and Decisive leader rating has plummeted five points 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.200 to forty four percent. Now, this is the lowest score 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.400 for prime minister in this category since News Poll began 0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:58.600 measuring it in two. 0:37:58.520 --> 0:37:59.239 Thousand and eight. 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:04.440 After and Rud's when Cameron, you've written yet another sensational 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:08.080 piece on the nightly. Well, tell us just how weak 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:09.759 is alban Easy in your view? 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.000 Well, as we broke first on your program when we 0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:17.560 did the GXO JLP pole back in May, voters when 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.880 they asked thought he was weak, useless and a liar. 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:21.920 So this has been a view around for a while. 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.799 But the thing critical about this to poll Shari is 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:29.080 this was taken before the utterly disastrous, utterly disastrous response 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:33.040 to the act of terrorism that was the at synagogue 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.640 fire bombing in Melbourne. This is a bloke who was 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.680 being briefed on the plane about a terrorist act and 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.239 went to a fundraiser with Big Oil to raise more 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.120 money for his campaign. This is a bloke who on 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.719 Saturday saw other leaders going to the synagogue but had 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.600 time to go off and play a game at tennis. 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:51.640 This is a guy who made big time smears of 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.560 Scott Morrison saying he doesn't hold a hose about the 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.840 bushfires in Australia, but we know when it comes to 0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.680 fire bombing a synagogue, he holds a tennis racket. He 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.280 holds a tennis rakt Shari. This guy is a disgrace. 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:03.640 This should this. 0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:05.600 Guy should not be our prime minister any longer if 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:10.840 this is how he responds to a national crisis. 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.000 So true, David Gazard, what do you think about the 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:18.120 response we've seen from Alberan easy over a terrorist attack? 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.520 We on you it was a terrorist attack. It's taken 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:25.040 authorities for days to label it as such. How do 0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:26.600 you think the Prime Minister's responded. 0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:33.400 Well, it's reprehensible and I think it lies the accusations 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.960 that have been level against the Prime Minister for now 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:40.560 months that he's thinking more about the seats he holds 0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.840 in Western Sydney than he is about the national interest. 0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:48.480 So we've got a community living in fear while the 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:53.799 Prime Minister basically washes his hands or or comes to 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:58.400 the party days late on declaring this terrorism. And to 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.160 Cameron's point, I mean, this is sort of standard behavior 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:06.880 from the Prime minister, you know, and it's no wonder 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.960 that people are marking him down. He's in a cost 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.680 of living crisis. He's a property wheeler and dealer with 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.959 a four point three million dollar house on a cliff top. 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.400 He's getting flight upgrades and now he says he's for 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.880 Jewish community, but he's playing tennis when he clearly should 0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:31.840 be down at that synagogue and sympathizing and announcing clear 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:35.879 action that he's going to assist that community. We don't 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.240 get any of that from the Prime Minister. 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.839 No, we've had nothing. And you know the task force 0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.560 that he did announce today, well he was forced into 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.239 it because the opposition, the community, the media on the 0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.279 front page of every paper was criticizing him for lack 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.200 of action. But it's not just on social cohesion. And 0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:58.120 again this is no problem just for Jewish Australians. All 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:03.680 kind hearted Australians of all faiths despise the racism and 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.360 the lawlessness and the aggression that we're seeing on our streets. 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.400 But on the cost of living crisis. In the Resolve 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.359 poll today, Cameron, fifty nine percent of voters say they're 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.839 worse off than when Albanizi came to power, despite his 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:20.640 campaign platform being on cost of living, only thirteen percent 0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:22.439 said they felt better off. I don't know who those 0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.840 thirteen percent could possibly have been, but Cameron, you know 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.279 this is a major issue as well. 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:29.080 The economy. 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.200 Oh, the economies front and center are made worse by 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.920 these acts of national terrorism that we're seeing specifically targeted 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.400 the Jewish communy in Australia, but no cost of living 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.400 is a huge issue for Labor and little wonder that 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.600 people are feeling much worse off than three years ago 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.799 because they've spit their COVID savings. They're actually on their 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.720 you know, the bearings their pants, trying to pay mortgage 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:55.400 rates at record levels, grocery bills, petrol. Everything's gone up 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:59.440 under Albanize, everything's gone up under elbow and that's the 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.040 problem for our bees. He just looks so blase into 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.680 your point, David, so out of touch, so at a touch. 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.360 You know, the retirement house on the top of the 0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.239 hill that only has room for a jocuzi, not a 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.640 tennis court. This guy is so out of touch with 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:15.200 what Australians are currently living through with their cost living crisis. 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:18.320 David. 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.439 In that Resolve poll that I just mentioned, they had 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.880 Labour's primary sitting at twenty seven percent. 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:27.000 From your extensive experience. 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.480 With political campaigns, do you think it's now at a 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:33.240 point where Labor will struggle to even form minority government. 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.759 Look to form government as they did at the last 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.239 election with the primary vote of thirty two point six 0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:44.719 percent was extraordinary. That is a historic low number one 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.840 in three people giving their first preference to the Labor Party, 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:52.040 and they still managed to cobble together a government with 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.600 the support of Greens and Teals. Over the course of 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:59.200 the last two and a half years, Anthony Alberanezi has 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:04.399 shed five percentage points of that historic low number. He's 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.759 now sitting at twenty seven if the Resolve poll is 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:11.400 to believe. At the same time, that's on top of 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.640 the thirty two percent he shared what somewhere between fifteen 0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:18.759 and twenty percent of the first primary vote base that 0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:22.040 he had. He's down down into one in every four 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.960 voters giving their primary vote. But at the same time, 0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:30.520 his spending is at never before seen highs, which is 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:35.320 pumped up inflation. He hasn't been able to cobble together 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.640 any kind of serious cost of living package, which is 0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:43.200 what people have been looking for. He's been obsessed with 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:49.279 the voice, he's obsessed now with Palestine. He seems distracted, 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:55.239 as Cameron notes, with his own personal living situations. I 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:59.640 mean these numbers to your point, I can't see him 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.799 getting majority government, whether or not there's going to be 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.960 enough Green and support to cobble together a minority government. 0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:07.120 I guess you know. 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.640 I mean you look at the two PP numbers, is 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.920 only marginally behind, so it is possible. Three months ago, 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:17.440 no one thought a minority coalition government was possible. Now 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.520 people are starting to talk about a majority coalition government 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:22.839 with Peter Dutton as Prime Minister in. 0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:23.359 His own right. 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.680 Yeah, they are, indeed, and it seems to me like 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.759 died In is feeling pretty confident that that could happen 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.759 as well. All right, Cararamean and David Gazard, great to 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:34.400 see you both. 0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:36.280 Now, don't go anywhere. 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.920 There's breaking news tonight that Hamas has provided the names 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.360 of hostages and the details of their medical conditions to Israel. 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.880 I'm going to cross life to Israel after this quick break. 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:50.640 Welcome back. 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:50.839 Well. 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.879 In breaking news tonight, Channel twelve television in Israel has 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.799 reported that Hamas has provided the names of hostages and 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.920 details about their medical conditions to Israeli authorities. This is 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:07.560 even said to include the names of sick and elderly individuals. Now, 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.520 we're yet to have this information confirmed, and there are 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:15.120 also unconfirmed reports that a hostage deal could be imminent 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.840 or to discuss I'm joined now by Israel's Special Envoy 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:23.279 to combating anti Semitism. Mikhail Kottler Wunch, Mikail, thank you 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:26.520 very much for joining me live in Israel. Look, if 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.880 this is true, this would be the most welcome news 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:31.640 that we all desperately need. 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.120 Look, it has been the most devastating time for more 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:43.120 than four hundred and twenty days for now one hundred families, communities, 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.160 and I would say the entire population in Israel that's 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:50.480 been devastated by the continued holding of one hundred hostages. 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.040 And yes, it would be welcome news. But I want 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.879 to point out four of the hundred still held by 0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:01.040 a genocidal terror proxy of the Islamic Republican Iran, that 0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:05.840 is Kamas, who stole people from their beds and youngsters 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.319 dancing at a peace festival on October seventh, twenty twenty three. 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.400 Four of the one hundred that we count have actually 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:15.279 been held by that Commas in Gaza for more than 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.759 ten years. And the reason that that's important for me 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:22.280 to underscore two deceased soldiers Adar Golden and Aron Choul, 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:26.439 two civilians Averra Magisto and Hisham Assayad, And for more 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.960 than ten years we have been at the UN we 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.239 have spoken with a red cross, we have spoken with 0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:36.920 governments around the world and the systemic failure to uphold 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:42.000 existing laws to what is a standing violation of international law. 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.720 It's called the standing violation because every second of every minute, 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.080 of every hour of every day of every week of 0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:51.920 every month of these ten years, the four human beings 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:55.319 were held as currency, as human sacrifices, if you will, 0:46:55.680 --> 0:47:00.680 were enabled and emboldened the terror entities to actually then 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:04.000 steal two hundred and fifty one more people and continue 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.879 holding another now ninety six in addition to those four. 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.880 And that is a very critical piece that we have 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:14.040 to be clear about. It is a manifestation that is 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:19.000 a manifestation of the systemic failure of democracies of Western 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:23.720 powers to ensure that international law, the international rules based order, 0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.000 is applied equally and consistently across the board. By the way, 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.880 not just on terror entities of course, who care not 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.839 about international law for the international rules based order, but 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:36.360 on the countries that have enabled them, including not just 0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.560 since October the seventh, twenty twenty three, but for the 0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.160 last ten years Qatar, turky and so on. And so 0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.720 that is just part and parcel of yes, the hope 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:50.680 that we have to see those that are alive back 0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:54.880 to their families for rehabilitation, those that have been murdered 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.120 returned for proper burial in Israel. But we have to 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:04.840 be very clear terror terror enabled to dictate, if you will, 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:09.000 the terms and conditions and equations by which democracies function 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:12.759 is emboldened to do so in every other context, not 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.120 just in this context, and not just in the geography 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:16.160 that is the state of Israel. 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:18.239 Yeah. 0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:21.440 Well, let's hope that this time the reports are accurate, 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.360 because you know, it's so hard for the families to 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.160 get their hopes up and then to be devastated once again. 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:28.239 But we'll keep on. 0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:31.400 Bringing everyone news of this as it unfolds, if it 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:35.120 unfolds throughout the week. Now, Mikhail, we've only got a 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.040 minute or so left, but I just want to ask 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.960 you about the terrorist attack at the Adas Synagogue here 0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:44.400 in Australia. Australians are just despairing at the lack of 0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:47.480 leadership we've seen on anti Semitism, and you mentioned the 0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:51.799 UN votes. Our government has had only hostile positions at 0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.839 the UN. What do you think We've got thirty seconds now, 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:56.600 what does the AB and easy government need to do. 0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.600 Look the Albanesi government, and I'm going to say again 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.560 it's the same part of the systemic failure to call 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.719 out with moral clarity and courage the anti Semitism, and 0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:10.000 it is a tsunami of antisemitism in Melbourne, in Montreal, 0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.439 in Washington, New York, around the world on and since 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:16.759 October seventh, in response to the worst attack of Jews 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:20.000 since the Holocaust by genocidal terror proxies of an Islamic 0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:24.400 regime in Iran. The failure to act, to apply existing policies, 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:28.719 to apply existing rules, to ensure that what has been 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:32.399 enabled by silence and by neutrality and by false moral 0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.560 equivalents top down, as you said, by government has. 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:39.359 Actually unleashed percent riot one percent. 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.279 I'm sorry, we've run out of time, Michal, thank you 0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:42.799 very much for joining us. 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:45.080 I'll see you tomorrow at eight. And here is Paul 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:45.919 in the man Cave.