1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed Sunday feature Michael Thompson. Every 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: week we release a sister podcast called how Do They 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Afford That? It features me and financial planner Canna Campbell, 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: and it's all about personal finance. It's all about making 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: your money work a bit. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: Harder for you. 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: The episode that was released this week on Wednesday is 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: something a little bit different. It looks at the idea 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: that you don't need to spend a fortune to get 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: good technology. And we were joined in the studio by 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Stephen Fennick from tech guide dot com dot au who's 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: done plenty of interviews with Sean Aylmore on Fear and 13 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Greed as well. And what he does is tell us 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: the brands and products that do just as good a 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: job as the premium tech while also telling us who 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: actually needs to fork out for the top of the 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: line gear, perhaps because their jobs require it. But this 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: week we are looking at mobile phones, we are looking 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: at headphones, we're looking at smart watches. And if you 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: follow the podcast, if you follow how Do They Afford That? 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: The next Wednesday, you will hear part two where we 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: look at TVs, computers and smart home technology. The affordable 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: brands the affordable products that you should be using. 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: This is part one. I hope you enjoy it. 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to How Do They Afford That? The podcast that 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: peaks into the financial lives of everyday Australians. 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm Michael Thompson. 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm a writer and the co host of the podcast 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: Fear and Greed business News, and as always I'm with 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Canna Campbell, financial planner and founder of Sugar Mama TV, 31 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: the financial literacy platform that you will find basically everywhere. 32 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: It's on YouTube and podcasts like this one, and books, Instagram, threads, TikTok, Instagram. 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't know whether I'm mentioned Instagram, but you're definitely there. 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: Now you have yeah, now I may have done it twice. Hello, Cannah, 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: there you're going Hi. 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: This episode is very timely right now because I just 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: received a text message from Optus asking if I'd like 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: to upgrade my handset and I would get a fifteen 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: hundred dollars gift cards. So I am busting at the 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: scene for this. 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: You are straight into the money as always, which you 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: would expect on a podcast like this, we are doing 43 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: something a little bit different today. The name of the 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: podcast obviously is how do they afford that? And partly 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: partly that was kind of inspired by the idea of 46 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: keeping up with the joneses of needing to spend a 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: lot of money to kind of looking at what other 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: people are buying. The big screen TV may be the 49 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: new phone, another kind of gadget, and wondering how do 50 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: they afford that, and how do I do that as well. 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: Finding everyone's little secrets, little hacks. 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: So we are taking that idea and we are thinking, surely, 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: surely there is a way to have the latest technology, 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: some pretty good tech, without having to pay absolute top dollar. 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: And so today we are looking at affordable technology and 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: we are focusing specifically on mobile technology, so mobile phones 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: and your wearables you're smart watches and air pods and 58 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: earbuds and various headphone options. There is so much to 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: discuss and to do that where you're getting some help 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: from somebody who has tested and reviewed pretty much every 61 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: gadget ever invented, which might be a little bit of 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: a stretch, but I reckon it's not too far from 63 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: the truth. Stephen Fannick is one of Australia's top technology journalists. 64 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Here's the editor of tech Guide Dot com dot Au. Stephen, 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to how Today. 66 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: For that great to be here, and I'm happy I'll 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: be able to give you some advice on all these 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: being able to afford all the tech because you're right, 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: it is like trying to keep up with the Jones. 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: You want to have the latest and greatest, but you 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: don't want to break the bank in the process. 72 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Is it the case that you don't have to pay 73 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: a fortune to get something pretty good? Because I am 74 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: a bit of a sucker for the branding, and suddenly 75 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: then you can just get drawn straight into the premium 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: brands and you're paying premium prices, but you don't have to. 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: Not at all. I think you know. Obviously, the brands 78 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: build ecosystems like Apple, Samsung, they bring you in, but 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: there are other brands out there and other devices that 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: you can achieve the same thing. Might not look as premium, 81 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: but you're getting the same things done, you're getting the 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: same work done, you're putting the same photos on social media, 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: so there are ways around it. 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Shall we jump straight into phone because Kannie, you've already 85 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: brought this. You brought this up within the first fifteen 86 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: seconds of the podcast. 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm so greedy, hogging you. So when it comes 88 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: to phones, do you really need to have like the 89 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: latest state of the art, fresh off the press. 90 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 2: Well, the answer is no, you don't. The beauty, the 91 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: beauty of the smartphone category now is that it's actually 92 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: getting it's becoming quite mature. So a lot of the 93 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: technology that was like five or six years ago considered 94 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: flagship technology has now filtered down to a phone that 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: could buy for two hundred dollars. So things like face ID, 96 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: big screens, good good quality displays, the speed of the processes, 97 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: they're all now, they're all pretty good. So you're a 98 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: lot of bang for your buck for those phones that 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: are too undred to five hundred dollars. And look, not 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: everyone buys on iPhone. Not everyone buys the latest Galaxies 101 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: from Samsung. So the bulk of the market is in 102 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: this mid tier, which is seeing there's a lot of 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: competition in that in that area. Let's start of the. 104 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: Prem that the top end then and work our way 105 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: down maybe because the iPhones, really they are the ones 106 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: that get all the buzz. Yeah and so and you 107 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: get all of these phones, yes I do, because it 108 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: is your job, and often you are flown to the 109 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: US to see the keynote speeches and to review all 110 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: of them. So you see all of the technology, do 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: you think it is worth spending? How much actually is 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: the new iPhone? 113 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: The new iPhone? I think the sixteen starts at about 114 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: thirteen ninety nine, which is actually cheaper than last year. 115 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: They've actually bought the price down by one hundred dollars. 116 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: That's the sixteen and sixteen plus the pro range is 117 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: fifty dollars cheaper, so pro range job is a bit 118 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: more premium, better camera. Sixteen still latest processes and all 119 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: the latest tech. But I think if you want to 120 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: be on the cutting edge, if you want the best camera, 121 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: you want the best looking phone, then people are going 122 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: to spend that money. But even if you do make 123 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: an investment, like let's let's use the iPhone as the example, 124 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: it's now become a thing where how long do you 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: hang onto that phone? So you've spent X amount of dollars, 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: a couple of thousand dollars and that phone's going to 127 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: probably last year, three, four, perhaps even five years, So 128 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: it's now become I think my advice to people is 129 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: if you want to upgrade, look after the phone you've 130 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: got because it could be the trade in that makes 131 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: the next one even cheaper. 132 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: So you put it in a case for one thing, 133 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: actually put. 134 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: A screen first thing and a screen protector so protect it. Yeah. 135 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: Also, might I add save the box because if you 136 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: want to maybe not necessarily trade it in, but actually 137 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: sell it on say gum Tree or Facebook marketplace, because 138 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: sometimes you can get a little bit more totally a 139 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: bit of a hassle, but if it comes with the 140 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: box and it's looking almost brand new, you can actually 141 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: get a premium, very good device. 142 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 143 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Just take us through the tradings because you mentioned that 144 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: just in passing, and there's a few different ways to 145 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: do it. One might be through Apple for instance. Another 146 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: they're actually through the telco providers. 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well the telcos whenever there's a new iPhone, new 148 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Samsung phone, they're the two big tent poles that they 149 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: aim at and they offer really aggressive trading. So the telcos, 150 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: the email, the text message you received was a way 151 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: for them to keep you as a customer by dangling 152 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: this gift card in front of you. So that's going 153 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: to we'll think who that's pretty good value. I could 154 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: put that towards the new iPhone or whatever device you 155 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: want to buy. But then the provisor would be you 156 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: stay a customer for another three years. You sign a 157 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: three year contract, tells Drew the same. Vodaphone had very 158 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: aggressive iPhone deals as well. Even Samsung. Whenever there's a 159 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: new Samsung device, their pre order program it outlines all 160 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: the trading options you have, and also the telco's also 161 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: throwing bonus pre order offers like a free tablet or 162 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: ephones or watches and things like that. So it's all 163 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: about keeping you as a customer. 164 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: Can you haggle? Can you say, well, can I go 165 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: to Optors and say, well, I've been with you a 166 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: long time, Optors, I've hearda phone are being very aggressive 167 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: right now. Can you match what they're offering? 168 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: Of course you can. Yeah, that's that's it's very competitive, 169 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: very competitive market. They don't want to lose you as 170 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: a customers. It's that that's actually a good tactic if 171 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: you want to get a better deal. Even the deal 172 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: that they've offered you sounds pretty good to begin with, 173 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: but if you. 174 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Want more, go for Michael's shaking his head, my head, 175 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm just Stephen, you've just given Canna the green light 176 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: to haggle, which is just like that is music to 177 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: her ears, because you have never seen someone that just 178 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: gets more satisfaction out of bargaining with someone. 179 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: It appears to me Canna is not uncomfortable haggling. I've 180 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: got to say I'm not either. I've got a European background, 181 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: so we're hagglers anyway. They can only say no. What 182 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: is what my mother told me? They can only say no. 183 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: Nothing to lose, Zach, so much to gain, like a 184 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: new iPhone? 185 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: Who before we move on from iPhones, we're talking about 186 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: not needing to spend the top dollar in order to 187 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: get something pretty good. You mentioned there that there is 188 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: say the sixteen Pro and the sixteen plus and the 189 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: regular sixteen. Do you need to get the sixteen pro? 190 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: Does it come down to what you're going to use 191 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: it for? Or is the are you okay going for? 192 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Essentially what is the bargain version being the base level sixteen? 193 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it comes down to what you use 194 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: it for. If I've been asked one hundred times for 195 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 2: the sixteen or the sixteen pro, my advice is, if 196 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: you're really in your photography, if you're creating content, if 197 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: that's what you love to do, then the pro would 198 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: be your option. If you're just a customer who wants 199 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: a nice, fast phone that can take good photos without 200 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: you having to do anything, the sixteen is fine, but again, 201 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: the whole market, even entry level phones have two three 202 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: lens camera systems and can take great photos. I've done 203 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: many a review where I've used a three hundred dollars 204 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: phone for two weeks as my daily driver and did 205 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: my usual social media sharing and posts and everything, and 206 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: not one person said, oh, that photo is not as 207 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: good quality as what you normally share. No one noticed 208 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: that I was using a different phone apart from an iPhone. 209 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: So the quality is there even at that more affordable level. 210 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: And brands to look for like Opo, They've got a 211 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: lot of good mid range phones. You look at Nokia. 212 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: Nokia have made this amazing comeback with a great range 213 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: of Android devices as well. Yeah, and they've been in 214 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: the market with Android phones that cost less than three 215 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: hundred dollars and really great phones like good, good, well made, 216 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: really nice quality to them, and they're three hundred four 217 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, but they're running Androids. The Apple don't have 218 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: the cheapest phone. Apple has is the iPhone se I 219 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 2: think it was about eight hundred bucks. But I don't 220 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: think Apple knows how to make a cheap product. It's 221 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: premium all the way for Apple. And part of that 222 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: is it is the brand, isn't it kind of? It's 223 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: also kind of there is a risk they suddenly put 224 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: out one for five hundred dollars. It can cheapen the 225 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: brand there is will Samsung. The reason of Samsung's the 226 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: number one mobile phone manufacturer in the world. Reason for 227 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: that is because they've got a phone that costs one 228 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: nine and a photo that costs three thousand dollars. They've 229 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: got variety in their range. So they've got their A series, 230 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: which is the more affordable. Then they've got their S series, 231 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: which is their flagship. They've got the folding phones. They've 232 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: got something for everyone. Apple, They're they're a highly profitable 233 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: company because they only sell premium expensive phones, where Samsung 234 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: sell not only the premium but also bulk in those 235 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: other categories as well. 236 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: The mid range phones. I think that is fascinating the 237 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: fact that and you started with that point about how 238 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: some of those premium features of phones have now filtered 239 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: down absolutely, and that I think is actually really really 240 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: exciting the fact that you do not need to pay 241 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars as you could pay three or four 242 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: hundred dollars and get something that's going to do the job. 243 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: I think there'd be a lot of parents listening to 244 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: this and their child wants their first phone. Right their 245 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: child's twelve, thirteen, whatever age, they're going to give their 246 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: child their first phone. And naturally a child's you say, 247 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: on iPhone, And if you can afford to give your 248 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: child an iPhone, then good luck, good luck to you. 249 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: But usually it's one of these more affordable Android devices 250 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: that are given out, and they find that they can 251 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: do just as much as well as the other devices. 252 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: They can still share content and look at apps and 253 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: play games and do whatever they need to do, and 254 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: it's a fraction of the price. 255 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: The only problem with when you deviate away from a 256 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: mainstream if you get stuck with the phone and don't 257 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: know how to fix it, You've got to find someone 258 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 3: who knows. Like I'm always asking my eleven year old 259 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 3: to help me fix something on my phone. Is like 260 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: here it's fixed. 261 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: Well, basically Android and iOS, so it's the two operating system. 262 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: So whatever applies to the top of the line Samsung 263 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: or the more affordable Nokia. It's still Android at the 264 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: end of the day. 265 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nokia. 266 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: That is. 267 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: It is such a well known brand, particularly if you're 268 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: of a certain age and your first phone was like 269 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: a thirty three to ten or something like that, and 270 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: it was just a little kind of unbreakable brick. 271 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: It think I found one in a draw and it's 272 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: still had battery. I turned it on and still it's 273 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: still turned on. That is extraordinary, the batteries because all 274 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: you did was make calls and send text mess us 275 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: play straight as well. The battery used to last forever. 276 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: That was great. That is amazing. 277 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: Okay, So so Nokia, and did I say OPO? 278 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: Was it Opoh? Yeah? HMD is another brand. HMD stands 279 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: for Human Mobile Device. Is there actually the parent company 280 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: now of Nokia. Hm D is a Finish company, so 281 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: from Finland. Okay, they've got their own brand of phones 282 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: as well, and again they've they've got a play here 283 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: where their phones are designed to be affordable but also 284 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: easily repairable. So there they can sell you a kit 285 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: so if you break a screen or stuff up the 286 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: charging port, they'll send you a kit that one hundred 287 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: bucks and you can fix it yourself. So again adds 288 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: to the longevity of the device and you're not having 289 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: to upgrade. 290 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: And that's a mid range yeah, that's that's that's. 291 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: Three ninety nine, that's phone. Yeah, and that could last 292 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: you for years. If you want to upgrade, if you 293 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: need a new battery or a new screen, you can 294 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: just get the fix it kit and then you can 295 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: do it yourself. 296 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: That is great to know because you often see them 297 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: in supermar Like, see these phones in supermarkets and you see 298 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: the big display and I remember being as a kid 299 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: like you can go over and start looking at them 300 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: all then that would be and you question the quality 301 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: of some of these things. But it's great to know 302 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: now that those premium features are now filtering down. 303 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Okay, just one last thing though. The refurbished phones are 304 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: also massive too. So second hand phone So when you 305 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: trade your iPhone in or whoever, that then is sold 306 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: to someone else. So if it's in good condition, then 307 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: someone else could pick up an iPhone thirteen at an 308 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: affordable price. 309 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: And what refurbished phones I think on Amazon, you can. 310 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: Buy them on boost Mobile coals. Everyone sells refurbish phones. 311 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, okay, you've given us a fairly decent shopping list. 312 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: Sorry, I have one last Sorry, I just my afternoon 313 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: is going to be very busy. Now, storage on phones. 314 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: You know, there's a big difference in price when it 315 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: comes to storage, and my phone constantly see now I'm 316 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: nodding his head, glad that I asked this question. Thank you? 317 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: Is it worth paying that bit more to have more 318 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: storage because my phone is constantly running US so. 319 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: You mean on device storage. So that's how Apple distinguishes 320 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: their different variance is you can get terrorbied five twelve 321 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: gieks so and the more memory, the more costs. So 322 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: price structure. Yeah, that's right, that's right. If you are 323 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: taking a lot of photos, a lot of videos, then 324 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: it is worth having more storage. Or you can maybe 325 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: pay for more cloud storage. So cloud storage is cheaper 326 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: than paying extra storage on your device, So that's an 327 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: option as well. So like if you're an iPhone user, 328 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: you can use iCloud. If you're an Android usy, you've 329 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: got Google Photos or you know, all the dropbox, all 330 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: these other ways to save offline. But now that is 331 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: another consideration because that alters the price of the phone 332 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: when you buy it. So lot of phones too. A 333 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: lot of the mid range Android phones also have expandable memory, 334 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: so they come with little micro SD card slots. So 335 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: rather you only get I think one hundred and twenty 336 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: eight gig on the phone, but you could put a 337 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: terror byte memory card in it and that that's your 338 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: memory then on the device, and you can take that 339 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: and put it in another phone as well. 340 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: I tried doing that. It didn't work. 341 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: I suspect that could be operator error. Yeah, possibly, knowing Kanna, 342 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: it is highly likely because considering most times when we 343 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: are in the studio to record the podcast, you walk 344 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: in and the first thing you were looking for whenever 345 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: we walk into the studio is does anybody have a 346 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: phone charger? I have never seen you turn up with 347 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: your phone fully charged. I suspected me, look at it. 348 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: It is actually plugged in over you need affordable battery. 349 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 3: I have a bit of anxiety over plugging it and 350 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: charging it, and I can't sit still. I'm always moving around, 351 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: so I need to have my phone in my pocket 352 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: and I can't stay. 353 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about doing it overnight charging it. 354 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: That's not well because I have to listen to my 355 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: iPhone at night time to fall asleep and stay asleep. 356 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: It close to my head. 357 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: You can charge it while you're doing that. You just 358 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: plug it in. 359 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: No, but that means sleeping in a position in the bed. 360 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: May I make a situation My favorite gadget, And I 361 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: know this is actually not about my recommendations about yours, 362 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: but I'm going to give on anyway. The Journey charges. 363 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: I love them because they are and they are not 364 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: a sponsor of the show. Certainly welcome them as one. 365 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: But they are just so clean and so nice to 366 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: look at. And that's the magnet. I'm going to use 367 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: all the wrong terminology. 368 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: Here safe safe. 369 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: So you just clip it on. You just to sit 370 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: it on and it just sits there and you can 371 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: adjust the angle and you can spin it around if 372 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: you want to watch something while you while it's charging. 373 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: There's a few of them. 374 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Then you can then make your watch off and you 375 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: put and you put it on the back charges. 376 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: There's plenty of plenty of brands that make those Journey 377 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: stm there's heaps of them that make those. They're they're 378 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: really handy. Beside the bit that's really good. 379 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: It is amazing. Tanner We're going to leave your problems 380 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: with charging your phone behind for the moment. Just scratch 381 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: the surface, haven't we. But look, we've made a good 382 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: list of phones. So we've got Apple and Samsung obviously 383 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: the to the two giants within the industry. But then 384 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: also consider those mid range brands of Opo, Nokia, hm 385 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: DD really good ideas, just thes to consider and consider 386 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: your trade ins. 387 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: Even I was throwing motor roller make a great range 388 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: of mid and high range, high level phones as well. Okay, 389 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: plenty to consider. 390 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, this is a blast from the past. Is 391 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: Alcatel still makes any phones? 392 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 2: Alcohatel, Well, they transition to t CL TCL they were 393 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: selling in a straight I think then they're not selling 394 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: in Australia or they are in other countries. But I 395 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: will tell they were your budget phone. They then were 396 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: because they were owned by our TCL. They changed they 397 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: branded a TCL, but I'm not sure whether they're still 398 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: selling phones in Australia right now. 399 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: You are unable to be stumped. I thought I was, 400 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: You're going to get you at this one and all. 401 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: Over that one. 402 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to take a quick break and we're 403 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: going to come back then and look at some other 404 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: elements of mobile technology. I want to get your thoughts 405 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: on watches, smart watches, and also air pods and earbuds 406 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: and headphones and the various other kind of options for 407 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: how to listen to things. We'll be right back, Canna. 408 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: We are talking today about affordable technology, and we are 409 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: joined in the studio by Steven Fennick, the editor of 410 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: tech guide dot com. Dot au has done an admirable 411 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: job of taking us through all the various options for 412 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: mobile phones and giving us a few ideas. We want 413 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: to look now at some of the other versions of accessories, 414 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: the etc. 415 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: Here we go. Cana is very excited. 416 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Now can we start with watches? Sure, because it seems 417 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: like every second person that you see now is wearing 418 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: an Apple Watch. 419 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: Are they the market leader? I'm assuming, Oh yeah, runaway 420 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: market leader. In fact, it's ten years since they announced 421 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: the first Apple Watch, so's they've taken hold of the 422 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: market right there. And naturally Apple watches only work with iPhone, 423 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: so there's an attachment there, so if you need to 424 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: have an iPhone to use an Apple Watch. And they've 425 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: become over the years, not only I think they started 426 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: out as being a great way to get your notifications 427 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 2: and to make sure you don't miss a call. But 428 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: they've turned into these amazing health and wellness products that 429 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: can do things from detecting if you've got a trivial 430 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: fibrillation or low heart rate, or if you've had a fall, 431 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: that can send a message and call an ambulance and 432 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 2: do all these kinds of things, so become more a 433 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: medical device if anything. 434 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: Over the years, how accurate are they really? Because I 435 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: read Why We Sleep by I think it's Dr Matthew Walker, 436 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: and he actually rubbished them and said all these devices 437 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: are so inaccurate. The only way of actually monitoring the 438 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 3: quality of your sleep and obviously all the different movements 439 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: and cycles that you go through is through proper medical equipment. Yeah, 440 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: an iPhone is obviously not a medical device. 441 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: It's more a guide though. 442 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: The iPhone well, the features like the Apple Watch, fees 443 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: like the a fib for example, like you you can 444 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: do it you can do a ECG on your watch 445 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: and that needed medical clearance for that to be working 446 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: allowed to be used in Australia. So in terms of accuracy, 447 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: it's accurate to you. So it's accurate. If you are 448 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: consistently using one device to monitor how you sleep or 449 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: how you're exercising or whatever, then it is accurate to you. 450 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: So if you went into a professional lab, then the 451 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: results might slightly differ, but it is consistent in measuring 452 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: you based on its own metrics day to day if 453 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: you understand what I mean, So you're getting consistent results 454 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: might not agree with another way of measurement, but you 455 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: are still able to gauge where you stand in terms 456 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: of your sleep and your heart rate and your exercise 457 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. 458 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: And also an easy way to verify the heart rate 459 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: is just to monitor it on your phone and take 460 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: your post at the same time, and you can kind 461 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: of verify you get there's a rough idea of how 462 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: accurate it actually. 463 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: Is going to be. 464 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: To bring it back to the money side though, in 465 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: terms of these the medical features, and you are right, 466 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the talk, particularly after the most recent 467 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: Apple launch in the US, is about the fact that 468 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: there it is this big push into health and there 469 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: is an acknowledgement obviously there that the population of the 470 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: world's population is getting older, and there's a lot more 471 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: awareness now of keeping ourselves healthy and so Apple have 472 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: identified this as a growth area for their for their business. 473 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: Do we need to be paying top dollar on the 474 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: devices in order to get some of those health features? 475 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: Well, in this instance, I'd say yescause the Apple watches 476 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: will use that as example. It only works with the iPhone, 477 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: so that that little closed, little ecosystem is actually quite 478 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: accurate because the hardware the software is all produced by Apple. Okay, 479 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: So in that instance, I would say, yes, there are 480 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: other smart watches. You can get an Android smart watch 481 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: or a Samsung sell. There sell great range of smart 482 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: watches that can work on multiple devices, I think, including 483 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: an iPhone. You can install the Samsung Wear app on 484 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: an iPhone and use a Samsung watch. Okay, So able 485 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of watches you can use with 486 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: an iPhone. But if you look, if it's just about 487 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: tracking your steps and telling the time and getting a call, 488 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: then you might be able to opt for something cheaper. 489 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: But if you want it to be at this proper 490 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: let's call it medical grade, I wouldn't skimp on that. 491 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: I would like I bought my dad he passed away unfortunately, 492 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: but I bought my dad years ago an Apple Watch 493 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: because he was he would often get a high heart 494 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: rate for no particular reason, and the apple Watch was 495 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: able to give him an alert when that was happening, 496 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: so he could actually take that information and show it 497 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: to his doctor. So that was accurate enough for a 498 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: doctor to look at that chart and go, okay, we 499 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: need to do a couple of tests. Turned out it 500 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: was nothing. It was just he had a bit of 501 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: a fib sometimes. But there was another case for a 502 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: young sixteen year old girl was kept getting low heart 503 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: rate glarifications on apple Watch. 504 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: This is my EN's daughter. 505 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. She was saying, I'm young, I'm good. 506 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: This is not right anyway, she rocks up to a 507 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: doctor one time she goes, look I keep getting these notifications. 508 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: He checks. He guess you've got a low union and surgery. 509 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: He's got a park condition, And she did and saved 510 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: a lot. So in this instance, like a full detection 511 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: is another great example full detection, like you, There was 512 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: a case of a guy riding his bike through the 513 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: Victorian Highlands or something, got knocked off his bike by kangaroo. 514 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: Knocked out. He woke up in an ambulance because his 515 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: apple Watch detected the fall call triple zero, gave them 516 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: his location and called one of his contacts. That is, 517 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: so that's again a life potential, life saver right there. 518 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: So how much are we talking money wise for say 519 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: the latest Well, you're. 520 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: Looking at plus sort of a five hundred plus depending 521 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: on which size and what model you buy. The Ultra 522 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: is I think fourteen hundred bucks. Now the Series ten 523 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: I think starts at about five hundred and ninety nine 524 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: and upwards. Okay, so it's I think pricing has probably 525 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 2: stayed the same the last few years. So yeah, I 526 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: think affordable enough to have it. If you've already got 527 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: paid for an iPhone, I'd say, then go the rest 528 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: of the way. 529 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good advice. And what about then the other 530 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: watches that were out there, kind of like your fitbits 531 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: and your garment kind of advices. Are they still available 532 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: and if you just want to track your steps, then 533 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: can you just go for those being a more budget option, 534 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: Well that. 535 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: You can still get a tracker, which is kind of 536 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: how smart watches started. The wearables started off with the trackers. 537 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: Remember that you just had a fitbit and count your steps, 538 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: and you had challenges and stuff, and it's it's become 539 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: a bit more sophisticated now, but no, you could, you 540 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: could still make do well. Fitbit's actually now owned by Google, 541 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: so the Google or pixel Watch is it has fit 542 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: been incorporated into it now. So the pixel Watch is great. 543 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: It works with with Android phones naturally with Google's owned phones. 544 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: The Samsung Galaxy watches also have similar features to the 545 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: Apple Watch and work great with not only Android phones, 546 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: but also I think can work with an iPhone as well. 547 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: Play a choice of your garment if you're more of 548 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: fitness and you want you're a sort of outdoor adventurer, 549 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: and then the garment watches have similar similar features. But 550 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: again the garment watches a I think around seven ninety nine, 551 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: eight ninety nine, so they're an investment as well. 552 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 3: Wow, make doing one. 553 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: Or you can just have a normal watch, have a 554 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: normal analog watch, yes, you know, regular watch. 555 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: And that it only tells the time. 556 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: Though Withings has a really good watch that they've got 557 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: their scan watch. Withings we're actually the first company to 558 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: have an ECG. They beat Apple to having an ECG 559 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: on their watch. That's claim. Yeah, so the scan watch 560 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: is as a normal face, so typical analogue face, but 561 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: there's a tiny little o lead screen in the top 562 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: half that gives you the smart So you got the 563 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: style and the tech all in one. 564 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So as far as kind of wearables, as far 565 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: as watches go, you really do get what you pay 566 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: for essentially. With that that if you are looking for 567 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: the health benefits, then you are better actually to fork 568 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: out the money and get the top end. 569 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: You'll see there's a lot you'll see a lot of 570 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 2: ads on social media for these smart watches that cost 571 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: like nine to nine dollars, two hundred dollars. They're they're 572 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: they're good for just tracking steps, so I wouldn't trust 573 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: them as a medical grade device. But I think in 574 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 2: the in the case of the smart watches, like with Ing's, Apple, Samsung, Garman, 575 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: those Google Pixels, it's worth spending the money. 576 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good to know. Can we talk about headphones 577 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: slash air pods, slash earbuds. 578 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 2: Yes, big market and I always whenever people ask for 579 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: recommendations for gifts, I always recommend earphones headphones because everyone 580 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: loves me, male or female, young or old, they're gonna 581 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: like that. 582 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: And often now they like podcasts as well. 583 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: Another reason it's the popularity. They were so good and so. 584 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: Okay. I've always this is embarrassing. I have always struggled 585 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: to pick what to use because the ones, you know, 586 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: the old school earbuds that come on the cord from Apple, 587 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: would never stay in my ears. So I had to 588 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: go off brand. I had to go to something else altogether, 589 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: something that actually came with a little plug that I 590 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: could wedge into my ears. When I say it like that, 591 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: it sounds bad. 592 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: The silicon tips on the you need the tips, yeah, yeah, 593 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: And someone pointed out to me the other day, you 594 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: do realize that air pods now come with a range 595 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: of different tips. Well, the AirPods Pro do, the AirPods 596 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: Pro two have three different sizes of silicon tips. But 597 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: Apple's just released the AirPods four, which are the open style, 598 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: so no tips. And they've done studies on like tens 599 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: of thousands of years to get the right design and 600 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: they rest inside your ear quite comfortable, so that you're 601 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: not jamming something in your ear. But they do. They 602 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: do rest in there quite comfortably. But that's designed as well. 603 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: Inclusive of Apple to consider everyone's ear canals, sizes. 604 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: Ears, like your fingerprints, everyone's different, not to there's no 605 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: two ears the same. We're all got different ear shapes 606 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: and sizes and everything is quite different. That's why they 607 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: did this study. They had like fifty million points of 608 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: data they just looked at to create the new design. 609 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: I find you feel a bit nauseous. I have a 610 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: question for you. My partner Tom is extremely messy and 611 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: loses things all the time, which is why it doesn't 612 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: have a watch. One of the things he loses on 613 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: a weekly basis are they air pods, and so he 614 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: will lose a three hundred and fifty dollars pair of AirPods, 615 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: which obviously really irritates me. Then he will go out 616 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 3: and buy like a twenty dollars like dupe dare I say, 617 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: and then loses those a week later, and then the 618 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: next week buys the replacement AirPods, like can you can 619 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: you help me? 620 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: I can help you because the AirPods have a what 621 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: they call the find my feature, so they you know, 622 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: you know, you know the air tags, you have the 623 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: air tags which you can find the AirPods have fine mine, 624 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: so you can actually detect them like you would an 625 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: air tag. They have that feature. If it the AirPods pro 626 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: it sounds like they're expensive. They would have it already 627 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: built in the new one. The new AirPods have them 628 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: as well, so you can look for the case and 629 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: the actual buds using find Mine. 630 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to have so much fun this afternoon and 631 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: when I get home. 632 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: So different AirPods at home. 633 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: When we moved house, we just got a lot. 634 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: Oh so AirPods. I'm assuming there is an equivalent from Samsung. 635 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Samsung have their their Galaxy buds they call them, 636 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: and again sort of it's the same similar ecosystem to you. 637 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: You've got the Samsung Phone Watch buds, Apple Phone, Apple 638 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: Watch AirPods that is again built in and features that 639 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: play into the device. So there's all these easy pairing 640 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: and these features, the easy to amounts to calls and 641 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: to look to talk to your virtual assistant and all 642 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: those things depending on the brand. And obviously AirPods work 643 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: better with an on iPhone. You can't pair that to 644 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: other phones by the way. AirPods they do pair with 645 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: other brands of phones. But there's a bit of process 646 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: to it. 647 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: Is it worth the three to four hundred dollars. 648 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: You know what? I think this is an area where 649 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: you can really save a lot of money. This is 650 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: a huge area, and there are brands that I reckon 651 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: that are like very popular, like a brand like JBL. 652 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: JBL you can for less than two hundred bucks by 653 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: active noise canceling earphones that in my opinion, are as 654 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: good as earphones that are twice the cost. So I 655 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: think the problem with earphones and headphones and the whole 656 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: audio space is that a lot of us become audio snobs. 657 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: We look at Oh, it's got to be Bow's, it's 658 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: got to be Sony, it's got to be Sendheiser, it's 659 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: got to be this. Similar to the car industry, right, 660 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: you got to have a Mercedes a BMW. The other 661 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: ones do the trick just the same and just as well, 662 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: and you're spending less than half of the price of 663 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: the other models. Some of them do. As a matter 664 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: of fact, some of the other brands have fined my life. 665 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: There's other brands like Skull Candy there there are really 666 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: like they're really punch above their weight there their earphones 667 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 2: and headphones. They've got really good detail, noise cancelation, and 668 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: really good sound quality, really heavy bass as well. And Belcone. 669 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: Belkan's a brand that sell for under one hundred bucks. 670 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: You can get earphones with active noise cancelation from Belcone. 671 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: Belcane also has a range of headphones for children too, cheap, 672 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: cheap for kids with protection for their hearing, so it 673 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: can't go up a certain level, so it protects it 674 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 2: protects their hearing, because how many of us when we 675 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: were young, you used to blast our music and now 676 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: we're in our middle ages, in middle aged people with 677 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: poor hearing. So Bell can have these child safe headphones 678 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: as well. But there are so many choices in the 679 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: headphone space that, Yeah, if you want to spend five 680 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, sure go get the latest Sony or the 681 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: Boses or the Senheisers and all those other great brands. 682 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of value to be had with 683 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: JBL is probably the best example. JBL, Skull, Candy, Belcon, 684 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: they're the brands to look at. 685 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned that Belcan you can get them for under 686 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: a hundred bucks, yeap, What about JBL What kind of 687 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: price point to be looking at for? 688 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: Look, they've got headphones and earphones, so that under one 689 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: fifty all the way up to three hundred and four hundred, 690 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: depending on what model you want to buy, but I 691 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: think the bulk of the market just want a pair 692 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: of headphones or earphones that sound good, A and C 693 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: active noise cancelation and under two hundred. 694 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: Bucks because there is an element of kind of almost 695 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: insure currants. Really, and I'm using kind of Canner and 696 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: Tom as an example where you don't sometimes you don't 697 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: want to go and spend four hundred dollars or something 698 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: because it does feel like they are the things that 699 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: are going to get lost. 700 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: The easiest lot sunglasses. I just can't bring myself to 701 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: spend four hundred bucks on a pair of Sunnies because 702 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 2: I know I'm going to lose them. 703 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: Well, I can give you some advice to Tom. Service 704 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: station sunglasses. 705 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, we really, Yeah, he. 706 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 3: Buys multiple pairs at the time. 707 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: He too loses all of them. 708 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: But it's okay because they've cost like ten to fifteen 709 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: dollars each and some of them are. 710 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: Really quite nice. 711 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: Well, we kind of ended up at a strange place 712 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: talking about service station sunglasses. But I tell you what, 713 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: we have covered some ground, but we have not covered 714 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: all of the ground that I want to cover. So Stephen, 715 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: we have done phones, we have done wearables, watches, and 716 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: we have talked about headphones and air pods and the like. 717 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: We have so much more to cover. Are you okay 718 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: to come back again and do another episode where we 719 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: look at TV's and computers and art speakers and smart 720 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: homes and all of those things. 721 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely look forward to it. 722 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: Terrific. Thank you very much. That was Stephen Fennick, one 723 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: of Australia's top technology journalists and the editor of tech 724 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: Guide dot com dot au. Head along to the website 725 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: and check out some of the reviews and just there 726 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: is so much on offer, and this website really does 727 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: help you break down a few of the options that 728 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: are there with some really good I'm going to say, 729 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: frank and fearless advice. Is that fair? 730 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: Fair enough? Here? Well my reviews, that's my currency. People 731 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: trust my opinion and I give it honestly. 732 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, wonderful. Thank you so much for coming in today, 733 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: Steven by Pleasure and Canna. Where can we find you 734 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: if we need more help? 735 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 3: The best place to get in contact with me is 736 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: Instagram at Sugar Mama TV. I have to say normally 737 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 3: after each episode I feel the inspired to go home 738 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 3: and save harder and invest more and pay down off 739 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 3: more of my mortgage. But after today's episode, I actually 740 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: feel like I am I going to go out and 741 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: spend a lot of money. 742 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: But not as much as you could have, because hopefully 743 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: we might have saved you a little bit. So it's 744 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: really not savings as such, but it could be worse. 745 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: You may see me walking around with a new new 746 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 3: Apple Watch. 747 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: Sure I hope so. 748 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: And you can hear me every day with Sean Aylmer 749 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: on Fear and Greed, Australia's best business podcast. Thank you 750 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: for listening to how Do They Afford That? Remember to 751 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: hit follow on the podcast, and the best thing that 752 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: you can do is to tell somebody else or Betty 753 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: yet send them this episode if they are in the 754 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: market perhaps for some affordable technology, and spread the word 755 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: about how do they afford that? Thanks for your company. 756 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: Join us again next week