1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Approach production. 2 00:00:10,121 --> 00:00:13,321 Speaker 2: This is a really special episode of Odalie Leedy. In fact, 3 00:00:13,481 --> 00:00:17,041 Speaker 2: it's a special day for the Westbrook family, Honorable. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,081 Speaker 3: Deputy Premier and Attorney General. 5 00:00:18,801 --> 00:00:20,961 Speaker 4: Thanks very much, Speaker. 6 00:00:21,001 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 5: And before I share some remarks, i'd just like to 7 00:00:23,561 --> 00:00:30,001 Speaker 5: acknowledge in the chamber today Jason and Amanda Westbrook, Dante 8 00:00:30,081 --> 00:00:31,961 Speaker 5: and Sky as well. 9 00:00:32,281 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: And Chase. 10 00:00:33,721 --> 00:00:36,601 Speaker 5: I can't see Echo there, but I think she's there 11 00:00:36,641 --> 00:00:38,361 Speaker 5: as well, a couple of the grandkids, and I just 12 00:00:38,441 --> 00:00:42,201 Speaker 5: want to acknowledge the Westbrook family. A very special day 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,441 Speaker 5: for the Westbrook family and of course many others as well. 14 00:00:46,521 --> 00:00:49,081 Speaker 5: So Honorable Speaker, I moved that the bill now be 15 00:00:49,161 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 5: read a second time. I'm pleased to have the opportunity. 16 00:00:52,601 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: That's Guy Barnett, the Attorney General of Tasmania, live streaming 17 00:00:56,241 --> 00:00:59,641 Speaker 2: for the House of Assembly on Thursday, the eleventh of September. 18 00:01:00,041 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: As I sit here in Brisbane watching the live stream, 19 00:01:02,361 --> 00:01:04,881 Speaker 2: I'm also looking at a photo that's just been sent 20 00:01:04,881 --> 00:01:07,401 Speaker 2: to me. It's from Jason and Amanda, and it's them 21 00:01:07,601 --> 00:01:11,001 Speaker 2: with their kids, Dante and Sky, and their little niece 22 00:01:11,081 --> 00:01:13,241 Speaker 2: and nephew. In front of them are a bunch of 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,361 Speaker 2: media microphones and cameras and they're on the front lawn 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: of Parliament House and Tasmania. 25 00:01:18,601 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 5: I have personally met with Jason and Amanda Westbrook and 26 00:01:21,681 --> 00:01:24,841 Speaker 5: I am grateful for the information they have shared with 27 00:01:24,961 --> 00:01:27,721 Speaker 5: me and for the time they have taken to provide 28 00:01:27,801 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 5: feedback on these amendments. Based on the feedback from mister 29 00:01:31,881 --> 00:01:36,481 Speaker 5: and missus Westbrook and consideration of submissions and approaches in 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 5: other jurisdictions, is that the question of whether to seek 31 00:01:41,721 --> 00:01:45,961 Speaker 5: medical advice or counseling before viewing the records provided is 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,641 Speaker 5: ultimately a matter for the senior next of kin and 33 00:01:50,761 --> 00:01:52,161 Speaker 5: not appropriate. 34 00:01:51,601 --> 00:01:52,841 Speaker 4: To mandate in the bill. 35 00:01:55,121 --> 00:01:58,441 Speaker 5: The bill was also amended based on their feedback and 36 00:01:58,521 --> 00:02:03,081 Speaker 5: with consideration of submissions and other jurisdictions, to require the 37 00:02:03,121 --> 00:02:07,201 Speaker 5: cronial authority to apply to all coronial records, not just 38 00:02:07,481 --> 00:02:08,721 Speaker 5: post mortem records. 39 00:02:09,321 --> 00:02:12,121 Speaker 2: Thursday the eleventh, or September, at three PM, a bill 40 00:02:12,201 --> 00:02:15,001 Speaker 2: that was tabled by the Attorney General Guy Barnett. This 41 00:02:15,121 --> 00:02:17,521 Speaker 2: bill that was to give next of kin access to 42 00:02:17,561 --> 00:02:21,521 Speaker 2: coronial records, including autopsy photos and reports in certain cases, 43 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:24,121 Speaker 2: is something that Jason and Amanda have been wanting for 44 00:02:24,161 --> 00:02:25,401 Speaker 2: a long time. 45 00:02:25,361 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 5: And this amendment requires the coronial record to be provided 46 00:02:28,481 --> 00:02:33,161 Speaker 5: within twenty eight days after the request is made, or 47 00:02:34,121 --> 00:02:36,961 Speaker 5: such longer period as is agreed with the senior next 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: of kin, and an avenue for review if there is 49 00:02:40,041 --> 00:02:44,281 Speaker 5: a failure to comply with that timeframe. This will ensure 50 00:02:44,361 --> 00:02:46,641 Speaker 5: the timely provision of coronial records. 51 00:02:47,161 --> 00:02:48,001 Speaker 4: The amendments to. 52 00:02:48,001 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 5: The Currenters Act provide for a clear and direct ride 53 00:02:50,561 --> 00:02:53,761 Speaker 5: of access by senior next of kin to coronial records. 54 00:02:54,601 --> 00:02:57,881 Speaker 5: This is essential in the spirit of open justice to 55 00:02:58,041 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 5: ensure transparency, accountability, and public confidence in our justice system. 56 00:03:05,321 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: I also hope that the provision of this material can 57 00:03:07,881 --> 00:03:13,201 Speaker 5: provide some amount of closure to families following an investigation 58 00:03:13,481 --> 00:03:14,361 Speaker 5: into a death. 59 00:03:15,881 --> 00:03:18,361 Speaker 2: You can hear mister Barnett was emotional as he read 60 00:03:18,401 --> 00:03:22,801 Speaker 2: those words, and as the next words were spoken. I 61 00:03:22,841 --> 00:03:25,081 Speaker 2: got a wonderful message from Jason and Amanda, who were 62 00:03:25,081 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: watching live in the. 63 00:03:26,121 --> 00:03:29,401 Speaker 5: Room, and having said that I commend the bill to 64 00:03:29,441 --> 00:03:29,801 Speaker 5: the House. 65 00:03:30,161 --> 00:03:31,961 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, Attorney General. 66 00:03:33,441 --> 00:03:36,121 Speaker 4: The question is that the bill be read a second time. 67 00:03:36,241 --> 00:03:38,881 Speaker 6: Those are the opinions of that opinion, say. 68 00:03:38,801 --> 00:03:43,321 Speaker 4: I to the contrary, No, the eyes have it a. 69 00:03:43,361 --> 00:03:45,801 Speaker 7: Bill for actualmend the Sentencing Act to nineteen ninety seven. 70 00:03:49,321 --> 00:03:51,321 Speaker 2: You can probably tell from the joy in my voice, 71 00:03:51,361 --> 00:03:53,281 Speaker 2: but this is not the end and it doesn't mean 72 00:03:53,321 --> 00:03:57,001 Speaker 2: they can automatically get Eden's full coronial fil tomorrow. There's 73 00:03:57,041 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: a few more steps to go, and to explain those 74 00:03:59,161 --> 00:04:01,481 Speaker 2: in simple terms, this was the first step. The bill 75 00:04:01,521 --> 00:04:03,521 Speaker 2: has been passed in the House of the Assembly or 76 00:04:03,561 --> 00:04:06,641 Speaker 2: the lower House. The next stage is the Legislative Council. 77 00:04:06,801 --> 00:04:09,121 Speaker 2: They can either pass it, amend it, or reject it. 78 00:04:09,721 --> 00:04:12,681 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem likely. If they do agree, it goes 79 00:04:12,721 --> 00:04:15,201 Speaker 2: to the Governor of Tasmania, who gives it Royal assent 80 00:04:15,361 --> 00:04:18,561 Speaker 2: on behalf of the crown. Eden's Law then becomes an 81 00:04:18,601 --> 00:04:19,641 Speaker 2: Act of Parliament. 82 00:04:21,761 --> 00:04:22,521 Speaker 4: It was amazing. 83 00:04:23,081 --> 00:04:26,361 Speaker 1: It was actually amazing to see and feel and watch 84 00:04:26,601 --> 00:04:30,321 Speaker 1: and be there, and the grace and generosity of guy 85 00:04:30,921 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: on the day toward our family. You know what we're like. 86 00:04:35,721 --> 00:04:41,081 Speaker 1: We just go like a steam train, really and sometimes 87 00:04:41,161 --> 00:04:44,161 Speaker 1: running on empty. And Jason and I got up to 88 00:04:44,201 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Saint Mary's Pass and I'd forgotten our lunch, which I 89 00:04:47,161 --> 00:04:51,281 Speaker 1: normally pack a meal to travel so we don't have 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,801 Speaker 1: to stop. And so when we got to Parliament we 91 00:04:54,801 --> 00:04:58,601 Speaker 1: were quite hungry, and I said to God. He said, oh, look, 92 00:04:58,601 --> 00:05:00,241 Speaker 1: it's going to be delayed, and I said, oh, look, 93 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,401 Speaker 1: Jason needs to eat. He's been driving, and I didn't 94 00:05:04,641 --> 00:05:08,361 Speaker 1: bring up pack lunch and we didn't stop because we 95 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,081 Speaker 1: end up heading up to Lonceston to pick up Chase 96 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,201 Speaker 1: and Echo to take for the day. So it sort 97 00:05:17,241 --> 00:05:19,161 Speaker 1: of made us late, but it didn't matter because Parliament 98 00:05:19,161 --> 00:05:21,361 Speaker 1: was running late as well. But when we got in there, 99 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: guy said, hungry, Jason, come on down to the cafeteria. 100 00:05:24,961 --> 00:05:27,961 Speaker 1: It's on me. And I shouted us a feed and 101 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,841 Speaker 1: sat down with this and had a conversation. It was 102 00:05:34,041 --> 00:05:38,201 Speaker 1: really really warm and. 103 00:05:38,041 --> 00:05:38,481 Speaker 4: Heat his. 104 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,041 Speaker 1: I think it's his advisor or chief is he for stuff? 105 00:05:45,041 --> 00:05:52,241 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. He's left an enormous impression on Chase, 106 00:05:52,281 --> 00:05:56,121 Speaker 1: which is really what I wanted to happen whilst he 107 00:05:56,281 --> 00:05:58,401 Speaker 1: was experienced this, and he was just a little bit 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,601 Speaker 1: gobsmack face. He got to sit in the speaker's chair 109 00:06:01,801 --> 00:06:04,401 Speaker 1: and guy said, I said, get a photo. Guy with 110 00:06:05,481 --> 00:06:06,841 Speaker 1: standing beside the speaker's chair. 111 00:06:06,921 --> 00:06:10,241 Speaker 4: He said, not standing. He said, Chase come and sided 112 00:06:10,281 --> 00:06:11,401 Speaker 4: it and it. 113 00:06:11,401 --> 00:06:14,481 Speaker 1: Was just a really yeah, it was adorable and the 114 00:06:14,561 --> 00:06:16,161 Speaker 1: seat is one hundred years old plus. 115 00:06:16,401 --> 00:06:18,721 Speaker 6: Yes, So when we had young Chase there. Guy took 116 00:06:18,761 --> 00:06:20,801 Speaker 6: him to that chair and there was a portrait which 117 00:06:20,801 --> 00:06:22,161 Speaker 6: you may have seen in some of the pictures. I 118 00:06:22,201 --> 00:06:26,561 Speaker 6: suit you and that man, Sir Richard Dry. He was 119 00:06:26,641 --> 00:06:30,921 Speaker 6: knighted by the Queen after serving as a premier in. 120 00:06:30,841 --> 00:06:32,841 Speaker 4: The eighteen hundreds late eighteen hundreds. 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,241 Speaker 6: That chair that Chaser sitting in was built by a 122 00:06:35,241 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 6: convict in that era. If I'm allowed, I'd like to 123 00:06:39,001 --> 00:06:42,721 Speaker 6: read you it's an SMS from Guy Barnett this morning. 124 00:06:42,841 --> 00:06:43,721 Speaker 4: This is what he's written. 125 00:06:43,921 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for your kind message, and glad 126 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,081 Speaker 6: you and Jason and the family were happy with the 127 00:06:48,161 --> 00:06:52,241 Speaker 6: day in Parliament, and yes, emotional all round, but landed 128 00:06:52,241 --> 00:06:54,361 Speaker 6: well and delighted that we are not far from the 129 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,041 Speaker 6: end of this chapter, knowing that there's one more to come. 130 00:06:57,561 --> 00:06:59,681 Speaker 6: And yes, it was a great to chat with Hunter. 131 00:07:00,041 --> 00:07:02,521 Speaker 6: You should be very proud of her, and of course 132 00:07:02,561 --> 00:07:06,681 Speaker 6: your whole family in Brackets enjoyed meeting Sky and Dante 133 00:07:06,921 --> 00:07:08,321 Speaker 6: and grandchildren, who were a. 134 00:07:08,201 --> 00:07:09,001 Speaker 4: Delight to meet. 135 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,841 Speaker 6: Here is a photo of Chase in the original speaker's 136 00:07:11,961 --> 00:07:15,361 Speaker 6: chair made by a convict for Sir Richard Dry. By 137 00:07:15,401 --> 00:07:17,881 Speaker 6: the way, Ka did a great job hanging out with 138 00:07:18,001 --> 00:07:21,121 Speaker 6: us adults most of the day. In the meantime, kindest 139 00:07:21,281 --> 00:07:24,361 Speaker 6: regards and best wishes, Guy Barnatt. 140 00:07:23,881 --> 00:07:25,561 Speaker 2: How did you feel jas yesterday? 141 00:07:25,881 --> 00:07:29,161 Speaker 6: Mate? I'm humbled, totally humbled by the whole day. 142 00:07:29,321 --> 00:07:31,481 Speaker 4: It was. Yeah, it was. 143 00:07:31,481 --> 00:07:34,961 Speaker 6: Tiring, it was emotional, and I felt the warmth of 144 00:07:34,961 --> 00:07:38,721 Speaker 6: Amanda felt in that room by all the people in there, 145 00:07:38,761 --> 00:07:41,361 Speaker 6: all the candidates of TASMANI sitting in the green room 146 00:07:41,441 --> 00:07:44,241 Speaker 6: or the Parliament House. There wasn't one person against what 147 00:07:44,281 --> 00:07:47,201 Speaker 6: was happening. They all could see this change was necessary 148 00:07:47,521 --> 00:07:49,761 Speaker 6: and there wasn't a person in there that didn't shake my. 149 00:07:49,721 --> 00:07:52,441 Speaker 4: Hand and hug Amanda. And I believe you saw a 150 00:07:52,441 --> 00:07:53,121 Speaker 4: little bit on. 151 00:07:53,041 --> 00:07:57,641 Speaker 6: The live feed and we got special treatment day, and 152 00:07:58,441 --> 00:08:01,081 Speaker 6: that can happen in life. We were meant to be 153 00:08:01,121 --> 00:08:04,361 Speaker 6: sitting in the public gallery and looking over, looking down 154 00:08:04,721 --> 00:08:09,121 Speaker 6: as you do when you go there. However, after lunch 155 00:08:09,321 --> 00:08:13,601 Speaker 6: at the cafeteria, we were escorted into the Speaker's. 156 00:08:14,761 --> 00:08:18,041 Speaker 4: Reserve. I don't know, are you aware of that spot, Jake. 157 00:08:18,121 --> 00:08:20,561 Speaker 2: I've never been into Parliament, but I can admit it 158 00:08:20,641 --> 00:08:23,401 Speaker 2: sounds like it's a bit more posh than the public gallery. 159 00:08:23,641 --> 00:08:26,161 Speaker 6: Well, it's very mate, I had never I didn't even 160 00:08:26,161 --> 00:08:27,401 Speaker 6: know there was a speaker's reserve. 161 00:08:27,721 --> 00:08:29,881 Speaker 4: However, the speakers reserve is on the floor. 162 00:08:30,241 --> 00:08:34,481 Speaker 6: You're on the eye level with all the politicians. There's 163 00:08:34,521 --> 00:08:36,881 Speaker 6: no glass, there's no security, You're sitting on the floor. 164 00:08:36,961 --> 00:08:39,201 Speaker 4: You're right there listening to everything. 165 00:08:39,241 --> 00:08:42,441 Speaker 6: And we were given that privilege with Echo, with Chase, 166 00:08:42,561 --> 00:08:45,961 Speaker 6: with Sky and Don and Amanda, myself, and it was 167 00:08:46,201 --> 00:08:48,601 Speaker 6: just a real moment. 168 00:08:48,441 --> 00:08:52,561 Speaker 4: That we'll never forget. The children were just in awe of. 169 00:08:52,521 --> 00:08:54,641 Speaker 6: What happened and what we've been able to achieve as 170 00:08:54,641 --> 00:08:55,481 Speaker 6: a family. 171 00:08:55,321 --> 00:08:57,481 Speaker 1: And looking at the people that were in the room 172 00:08:57,601 --> 00:09:02,601 Speaker 1: at the end when they came and acknowledged us. I'm 173 00:09:02,681 --> 00:09:05,041 Speaker 1: quietly confident, Tazzi, We've got a good group of peop 174 00:09:05,041 --> 00:09:08,161 Speaker 1: people that might just lead us into some good leadership. 175 00:09:08,481 --> 00:09:12,161 Speaker 1: We're a little taken back by the whole thing. Feel 176 00:09:12,161 --> 00:09:13,281 Speaker 1: happy for Tasmania. 177 00:09:20,161 --> 00:09:24,561 Speaker 2: Why from our seven Tasmania Studios, Your Nightly News with 178 00:09:24,681 --> 00:09:28,641 Speaker 2: Kim Miller begins now Good Evening. 179 00:09:28,841 --> 00:09:32,161 Speaker 6: A decade after fifteen year old Eden Westbrook's death in 180 00:09:32,241 --> 00:09:35,441 Speaker 6: Saint Helen's, her family's fight, have details about her case 181 00:09:35,481 --> 00:09:38,761 Speaker 6: released is a step closer, so we let go and 182 00:09:38,801 --> 00:09:40,321 Speaker 6: know with the look, guy, we've actually got a go. 183 00:09:40,441 --> 00:09:42,601 Speaker 6: We've got a media. They want to have a chat 184 00:09:42,601 --> 00:09:44,761 Speaker 6: to us and ask us a few questions. Anyway, we've 185 00:09:44,801 --> 00:09:47,481 Speaker 6: gone out and we've got on there and we've spoken 186 00:09:47,521 --> 00:09:50,121 Speaker 6: to the man. Amanda took the reins and she spoke 187 00:09:50,201 --> 00:09:50,681 Speaker 6: really well. 188 00:09:50,961 --> 00:09:54,561 Speaker 1: Eden was actually had a second injury, and we wondered 189 00:09:54,601 --> 00:09:57,481 Speaker 1: why the chief magistrate and the coroner didn't see that 190 00:09:57,561 --> 00:10:02,561 Speaker 1: as an alarm bell, given that it was indicative with homicide. 191 00:10:02,601 --> 00:10:06,161 Speaker 6: But one of the things that I remember most of 192 00:10:06,241 --> 00:10:13,041 Speaker 6: that day yesterday was a cameraman Jay straight after Yeah, 193 00:10:13,081 --> 00:10:15,241 Speaker 6: we were interviewed. He's come up to me and he 194 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:15,841 Speaker 6: shook my hand. 195 00:10:16,721 --> 00:10:18,401 Speaker 1: We actually want him to contact us. 196 00:10:18,561 --> 00:10:21,481 Speaker 6: Why I'm bringing this up, Jay is he thanked me 197 00:10:21,521 --> 00:10:23,841 Speaker 6: and Amanda for you know, what we've done for not 198 00:10:24,001 --> 00:10:27,201 Speaker 6: just Eden, but for Tasmanians and how hard it is 199 00:10:27,241 --> 00:10:31,321 Speaker 6: to deal with losing a child. And I said, oh, 200 00:10:31,321 --> 00:10:33,721 Speaker 6: thanks mate, you know, and he started to well and 201 00:10:33,841 --> 00:10:36,401 Speaker 6: I could see that this is deeper than you know, 202 00:10:36,721 --> 00:10:39,881 Speaker 6: just Eden, and I said, are you okay? 203 00:10:40,001 --> 00:10:41,841 Speaker 4: He said, oh, look, I lost a child. 204 00:10:42,481 --> 00:10:45,881 Speaker 6: I said, I'm so sorry, my condolences and he started 205 00:10:45,881 --> 00:10:48,081 Speaker 6: to cry and he says, but look people like you. 206 00:10:48,081 --> 00:10:51,361 Speaker 4: You just inspire me and I just felt for this guy. 207 00:10:51,561 --> 00:10:53,561 Speaker 6: It's actually making me a little bit emotional now. 208 00:10:55,561 --> 00:10:56,841 Speaker 4: I want to speak to him again. 209 00:10:57,321 --> 00:10:59,561 Speaker 6: I wish I had hugged him, because there's nothing wrong 210 00:10:59,561 --> 00:11:02,041 Speaker 6: with men hugging each other, and I just want to 211 00:11:02,121 --> 00:11:03,641 Speaker 6: I want to talk to him a bit longer because 212 00:11:03,641 --> 00:11:07,041 Speaker 6: I think we can help each other. And there's a 213 00:11:07,161 --> 00:11:08,801 Speaker 6: second lady, just quickly, Jay. 214 00:11:08,921 --> 00:11:12,241 Speaker 4: Sorry. On the way out of town last night, we 215 00:11:12,281 --> 00:11:12,961 Speaker 4: stopped at. 216 00:11:12,841 --> 00:11:16,561 Speaker 6: A takeaway shop and Chase and Echo came in with me, 217 00:11:16,761 --> 00:11:19,081 Speaker 6: and there was another little girl, echoes age, standing in. 218 00:11:19,001 --> 00:11:21,281 Speaker 4: Front of a mature woman my age. Let's say it. 219 00:11:22,201 --> 00:11:25,441 Speaker 6: She said, I know you, and I'm sort of I 220 00:11:25,481 --> 00:11:27,361 Speaker 6: was still dressed up like I was yesterday, Jay. I 221 00:11:27,361 --> 00:11:29,561 Speaker 6: was still my slacks and my good shoes and my jacket. 222 00:11:29,561 --> 00:11:32,801 Speaker 6: And I thought, oh, you must have seen the news 223 00:11:32,921 --> 00:11:36,081 Speaker 6: editorial from the Mercury Online, because that was already starting 224 00:11:36,081 --> 00:11:39,001 Speaker 6: to pake its head around. And she said, I've listened 225 00:11:39,041 --> 00:11:42,361 Speaker 6: to the podcast. I said, oh, wow, thanks, that's great. 226 00:11:42,761 --> 00:11:43,521 Speaker 4: What do you think? 227 00:11:43,641 --> 00:11:45,841 Speaker 6: She said, I just I admire you and your wife 228 00:11:45,881 --> 00:11:46,961 Speaker 6: and what you've done. 229 00:11:47,401 --> 00:11:50,001 Speaker 4: And you know, I said, so you don't know about today. 230 00:11:50,441 --> 00:11:52,201 Speaker 4: She said, no, what's happened today? 231 00:11:52,241 --> 00:11:55,561 Speaker 6: And I pulled out a screenshot that someone had sent 232 00:11:55,601 --> 00:11:59,281 Speaker 6: me from the Mercury's headline and I said, look what happened. 233 00:11:59,321 --> 00:12:02,001 Speaker 6: I said, the bill's being passed with the LA House today, 234 00:12:02,041 --> 00:12:04,081 Speaker 6: and she's just she grabbed her heart and she said, 235 00:12:04,121 --> 00:12:07,881 Speaker 6: I'm so happy for you she's there. I just want 236 00:12:07,881 --> 00:12:09,361 Speaker 6: to let you know that I used to work for 237 00:12:09,401 --> 00:12:14,001 Speaker 6: the Professional Standards in Tasmanian Police, and she said, and 238 00:12:14,041 --> 00:12:18,081 Speaker 6: I had to resign because of my moral compass. It's 239 00:12:18,121 --> 00:12:20,441 Speaker 6: funny how you just take your head around and things 240 00:12:20,441 --> 00:12:20,921 Speaker 6: come at you. 241 00:12:20,921 --> 00:12:23,121 Speaker 4: You know, these two people, that guy love to speak 242 00:12:23,161 --> 00:12:23,481 Speaker 4: them again. 243 00:12:23,521 --> 00:12:25,201 Speaker 6: And I'd love to run into that woman again and 244 00:12:25,281 --> 00:12:27,881 Speaker 6: just pay some questions because I'm interested in anything where 245 00:12:27,881 --> 00:12:29,721 Speaker 6: there's a little bit of you know. 246 00:12:29,881 --> 00:12:33,361 Speaker 2: Sitting here in Brisbane watching it on the live stream, 247 00:12:34,361 --> 00:12:37,401 Speaker 2: it was hard not to be emotional, even while I'm 248 00:12:37,441 --> 00:12:41,441 Speaker 2: thinking about, you know, putting this episode together quickly for release. 249 00:12:42,201 --> 00:12:44,521 Speaker 2: There was a moment Jase that was just a classic 250 00:12:44,521 --> 00:12:48,401 Speaker 2: Westbrook moment which I don't know you clocked. You probably 251 00:12:48,441 --> 00:12:52,161 Speaker 2: haven't watched the live stream back, but just as everything 252 00:12:52,441 --> 00:12:57,161 Speaker 2: ends and you and Amanda, Amanda hugs a few people 253 00:12:57,321 --> 00:13:01,201 Speaker 2: and you're about to walk out. Parliament resumes, Mister Barnett 254 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:04,321 Speaker 2: goes on to talk about some other issues that he's 255 00:13:04,361 --> 00:13:07,281 Speaker 2: bringing up in in the Lower House, and just in 256 00:13:07,321 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: the middle of hidden talking, I hear in the background 257 00:13:11,721 --> 00:13:14,121 Speaker 2: Chase an Echo talking and then I hear you going, 258 00:13:14,161 --> 00:13:21,761 Speaker 2: all right, see a lad of guys. It was classic Westbrook. 259 00:13:21,921 --> 00:13:23,761 Speaker 2: It was classic Jason Westbrook. 260 00:13:25,601 --> 00:13:26,761 Speaker 6: So do you wish to sum up? 261 00:13:27,721 --> 00:13:51,321 Speaker 3: All right? 262 00:13:38,121 --> 00:13:56,521 Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you again, Thank you again to the Westbrook. 263 00:13:56,641 --> 00:14:00,361 Speaker 7: So I'm very pleased to be able to wrap up 264 00:14:00,481 --> 00:14:02,361 Speaker 7: the sentencing amendment aggravating fact. 265 00:14:02,441 --> 00:14:06,001 Speaker 2: For me, it was just showing how down to worth 266 00:14:06,081 --> 00:14:08,761 Speaker 2: you two are and how. 267 00:14:10,281 --> 00:14:11,721 Speaker 4: That's really appreciated. Jay. 268 00:14:11,961 --> 00:14:15,081 Speaker 1: Oh look, I had a group hug with Guy and Amber. 269 00:14:16,201 --> 00:14:19,001 Speaker 1: I was just opening my arms to everybody that had 270 00:14:19,041 --> 00:14:21,801 Speaker 1: had a part in this, and you know, it's Parliament. 271 00:14:21,801 --> 00:14:23,601 Speaker 1: They're like, we got to no touching zone. I'm like 272 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:27,121 Speaker 1: coming and you come coming in coming in for ever 273 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,881 Speaker 1: and guys like Amanda the hugger, like you know. And 274 00:14:30,961 --> 00:14:33,721 Speaker 1: the reason that Jason could say yes years or later 275 00:14:33,881 --> 00:14:35,921 Speaker 1: is because that's how comfortable they made us feel. 276 00:14:36,121 --> 00:14:39,201 Speaker 6: Yeah, we felt respected for the first time in a 277 00:14:39,321 --> 00:14:39,841 Speaker 6: long time. 278 00:14:40,001 --> 00:14:42,001 Speaker 4: I felt like people. 279 00:14:42,161 --> 00:14:46,881 Speaker 6: Respected me as Eden's dad, and they respected Amanda is 280 00:14:47,001 --> 00:14:50,361 Speaker 6: Eden's mum. And what we've gone through because we walked 281 00:14:50,441 --> 00:14:53,161 Speaker 6: tall and we're strong. We know we're thick skinned, and 282 00:14:53,241 --> 00:14:56,001 Speaker 6: we know we get knocked down and the owls bringing 283 00:14:56,241 --> 00:14:57,641 Speaker 6: brought up in the You know, I was born in 284 00:14:57,641 --> 00:15:00,121 Speaker 6: sixty nine j So you're kicked in the guts and 285 00:15:00,201 --> 00:15:01,921 Speaker 6: told to get up you play footy, you. 286 00:15:01,841 --> 00:15:03,521 Speaker 4: Know you need to get up and run. 287 00:15:03,921 --> 00:15:06,481 Speaker 6: And I'm like that, mate, And it's okay to be 288 00:15:06,641 --> 00:15:11,361 Speaker 6: like that. So yeah, we're we're almost for words. 289 00:15:11,681 --> 00:15:15,401 Speaker 1: Past was funny. He was thanking this for taking him 290 00:15:15,441 --> 00:15:19,361 Speaker 1: when we dropped him off to his parents, and I said, 291 00:15:19,401 --> 00:15:21,361 Speaker 1: I know that was easy, Chase, So I really wanted 292 00:15:21,401 --> 00:15:24,721 Speaker 1: to do experience that. He said, Nan, it was really 293 00:15:24,761 --> 00:15:27,601 Speaker 1: strange how when Guy would open the door for me, 294 00:15:28,601 --> 00:15:32,361 Speaker 1: and he has got this beautiful experience impressioned in his 295 00:15:32,561 --> 00:15:36,441 Speaker 1: mind and he was pinching himself all day. 296 00:15:36,961 --> 00:15:39,041 Speaker 8: He couldn't want to get back to school to tell 297 00:15:39,041 --> 00:15:42,961 Speaker 8: his teachers and his tears on what he did. Thursday, 298 00:15:43,001 --> 00:15:47,481 Speaker 8: the eleventh of September twenty twenty five. Mate, that's etched 299 00:15:47,521 --> 00:15:50,081 Speaker 8: in his brain for the rest of his life. Its 300 00:15:50,161 --> 00:15:53,281 Speaker 8: beautiful and at thirteen, we're impressionable, mate, So for him 301 00:15:53,321 --> 00:15:57,161 Speaker 8: to get that impression, it's where's his nan and pop? 302 00:15:57,201 --> 00:15:57,441 Speaker 4: Mate. 303 00:15:57,641 --> 00:15:59,361 Speaker 6: We're pretty proud we're able to give him that. 304 00:15:59,481 --> 00:16:01,121 Speaker 4: And for Parliament to. 305 00:16:01,041 --> 00:16:03,761 Speaker 6: Treat our children, our grandchildren and our children and our 306 00:16:03,801 --> 00:16:07,521 Speaker 6: family life they did. I just I respect them all 307 00:16:07,881 --> 00:16:09,361 Speaker 6: for what they did for us. 308 00:16:09,641 --> 00:16:13,001 Speaker 1: There's a different feeling towards everybody that we've met now 309 00:16:13,121 --> 00:16:16,961 Speaker 1: and received that. It's definitely an embrace. 310 00:16:17,281 --> 00:16:21,041 Speaker 6: And being mindful while we were there, every one of 311 00:16:21,041 --> 00:16:24,761 Speaker 6: those speakers they acknowledged us in the room in their speech. 312 00:16:25,321 --> 00:16:27,841 Speaker 4: They eyed us, They've looked us in the eye. 313 00:16:28,161 --> 00:16:31,561 Speaker 6: And you know, body language, shah are no body language. 314 00:16:32,081 --> 00:16:35,961 Speaker 6: It was sincere and it threw a powerful punch at 315 00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:40,121 Speaker 6: me of sincerity and you don't get that often in life. 316 00:16:40,161 --> 00:16:42,841 Speaker 6: And you know, I can clearly see people have my 317 00:16:42,961 --> 00:16:46,121 Speaker 6: back when I'm not in the room. All that gaslighting, 318 00:16:46,161 --> 00:16:48,041 Speaker 6: you bastards that have tried to do to me and 319 00:16:48,121 --> 00:16:53,961 Speaker 6: my family, you haven't won, because yesterday proved that we've 320 00:16:54,001 --> 00:16:56,961 Speaker 6: got people out there of high caliber that are now 321 00:16:57,081 --> 00:16:59,921 Speaker 6: fighting for us and believing in us, and they want 322 00:17:00,001 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 6: the truth written for our daughter. So yeah, I'm in 323 00:17:04,161 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 6: a really good lot now of Jay. A bit emotionally 324 00:17:07,121 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 6: drained obviously because of a massive day, but looking forward 325 00:17:10,481 --> 00:17:13,761 Speaker 6: to the weekend and moving on and getting my house built. Mate. 326 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:17,001 Speaker 2: The next step is that was passed through the Lower House, 327 00:17:17,041 --> 00:17:19,801 Speaker 2: it now goes to the Upper House, and that is 328 00:17:19,921 --> 00:17:23,041 Speaker 2: that is that is a formality post that if both 329 00:17:23,041 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: the Lower and the Upper agree, it gets written into legislation. 330 00:17:29,241 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, indeed it does. 331 00:17:31,521 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 6: Jay and Rosalie the Greens leader, Yeah, she was pushing 332 00:17:36,521 --> 00:17:41,321 Speaker 6: for it this to happen like very quickly. So this 333 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 6: could happen where we were told it could be months away. 334 00:17:45,441 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: The other big news that we can talk about in 335 00:17:47,961 --> 00:17:50,041 Speaker 2: the show that we haven't been able to mention before 336 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: just because it wasn't the right time, is that you 337 00:17:52,281 --> 00:17:54,161 Speaker 2: have a new pro bono barrister. 338 00:17:55,681 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, very exciting, very thrilled and really looking 339 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:08,401 Speaker 1: forward to working with Philip's he see in Victoria and 340 00:18:09,001 --> 00:18:15,001 Speaker 1: he's been completely briefed on the whole ten years. You 341 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: might say, he's all over it and we're really really 342 00:18:20,281 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to when that face starts rolling. But until 343 00:18:23,721 --> 00:18:25,681 Speaker 1: that point, we really don't need to. 344 00:18:26,681 --> 00:18:31,041 Speaker 6: It's unnecessary to take up Philip's time at this present time. 345 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 4: So we haven't spoken directly. 346 00:18:32,441 --> 00:18:35,801 Speaker 6: However, part of our team is in regular conversation. 347 00:18:35,481 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 4: And email with this guy. 348 00:18:38,001 --> 00:18:42,441 Speaker 6: And once we've got the green light, Jay, that will 349 00:18:42,481 --> 00:18:45,801 Speaker 6: be a matter of process and the process will begin. 350 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 6: This is only as guy in the SMS, this is 351 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,881 Speaker 6: only a chapter finished. 352 00:18:51,241 --> 00:18:53,561 Speaker 4: This isn't the end of the story, Jay, As you know, 353 00:18:53,681 --> 00:18:57,321 Speaker 4: we need this inquest. We need to get in steath 354 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,081 Speaker 4: date right. 355 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 6: We need accountability and we won't go away. 356 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: And for everything that has followed the death of our baby, 357 00:19:07,041 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: that has to be you know, acknowledged and put to 358 00:19:12,241 --> 00:19:16,161 Speaker 1: sleep as well, because people can't be treated like that, 359 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:19,801 Speaker 1: not in any capacity. You know, We've got to stop 360 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,121 Speaker 1: treating people like this. 361 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,561 Speaker 4: They said to me yesterday. 362 00:19:23,721 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 6: You know, we hope we can move this forward and 363 00:19:26,201 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 6: get closure for you, mister Westbrook. And this is at 364 00:19:29,721 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 6: the media conference. And I said, look, I said, that's 365 00:19:33,201 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 6: really appreciated. And I can understand that. You know, we 366 00:19:36,521 --> 00:19:39,001 Speaker 6: all would like to get closure, but as a parent 367 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,481 Speaker 6: that's lost a child, that's there is never a closure 368 00:19:45,001 --> 00:19:47,481 Speaker 6: you lose a child, Jay, And I hope you never 369 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,641 Speaker 6: experienced this, Mate, I wish I never did. It's a 370 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,801 Speaker 6: part of you goes and we've felt that whole, and 371 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,641 Speaker 6: with that whole, we needed to, as you know, speak 372 00:19:58,761 --> 00:20:01,641 Speaker 6: and get to the bottom of what happened to Eden 373 00:20:01,961 --> 00:20:05,681 Speaker 6: for Eden, and that beautiful voice said Eden longer here 374 00:20:05,721 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 6: except on a video we feel was her yesterday, and 375 00:20:10,241 --> 00:20:14,441 Speaker 6: as Eden's dad, mate, I felt her yesterday, and it 376 00:20:14,521 --> 00:20:18,841 Speaker 6: was just one of the moments that I'm so glad 377 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 6: I've lived long enough to fight for Eden, because I've 378 00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 6: watched stories of heartbreak and grief throughout my life, and 379 00:20:27,441 --> 00:20:31,801 Speaker 6: I've seen people die without finishing the fight or walking 380 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,921 Speaker 6: away from the battle because the bureaucratic nonsense. And I'm 381 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,321 Speaker 6: super proud of Amanda. I'm super proud of myself, mate, 382 00:20:39,721 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 6: and my kids and my grandkids, and the support from 383 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,281 Speaker 6: you and all those people were thanked and I hope 384 00:20:45,281 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 6: we haven't missed anyone. Yeah, it just means so much day. 385 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,041 Speaker 2: This is by far one of the greatest privileges of 386 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: telling Jason and Amanda and Eden's story. But it's not 387 00:20:56,801 --> 00:20:59,881 Speaker 2: over yet. The next steps out to see Eden's Law 388 00:20:59,961 --> 00:21:03,761 Speaker 2: become an Act of Parliament and then the real investigation begins. 389 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:10,281 Speaker 6: Jay today Double eight sends this this morning the Mercury 390 00:21:10,321 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 6: newspaper front page, and. 391 00:21:11,921 --> 00:21:13,481 Speaker 4: I can't see anything. You can't see a picture of it. 392 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: I can't see anything about your day. And I think, oh, 393 00:21:15,721 --> 00:21:17,801 Speaker 4: it must be a story in there. You know. 394 00:21:18,281 --> 00:21:22,801 Speaker 6: Double eight has written back under it and said Eden's Law. 395 00:21:23,761 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 6: And then I've zoomed into the page and on the 396 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,521 Speaker 6: top right hand corner of today's Mercury it says Eden's Law. 397 00:21:32,921 --> 00:21:36,561 Speaker 6: Rectors Jay, I'll be an emotional wreck even talking to you. 398 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,561 Speaker 4: I'm a bit diary today and he's goin to picked 399 00:21:38,561 --> 00:21:38,921 Speaker 4: me up. 400 00:21:38,801 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: For work and I says, what happened, what's happened? And 401 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,481 Speaker 1: he says nothing. 402 00:21:41,481 --> 00:21:45,041 Speaker 6: I says, oh, you just look wrecked. I've had a 403 00:21:45,481 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 6: emotional day and that to see that this morning, I 404 00:21:49,521 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 6: was just overwhelmed. 405 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,041 Speaker 1: With unexpected as well. 406 00:21:53,201 --> 00:21:54,921 Speaker 6: And I know it's not going to be called Edens Law, 407 00:21:54,921 --> 00:21:56,721 Speaker 6: and I really don't expect that. I know, I think 408 00:21:56,721 --> 00:21:58,321 Speaker 6: I might have said that in the podcast. I actually 409 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,921 Speaker 6: thought about it, and I think it should be Dan's Law, 410 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 6: and I probably in the back of my mind couldn't 411 00:22:02,201 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 6: see why it couldn't be. But I don't want to 412 00:22:04,681 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 6: offend anyone, and well, I want it for the people. 413 00:22:09,761 --> 00:22:13,241 Speaker 1: You've done a service to Tasmanians by fighting for this change. 414 00:22:15,041 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: I'm so bloody proud of both of you, guys, I 415 00:22:17,201 --> 00:22:18,001 Speaker 2: really am. 416 00:22:18,921 --> 00:22:22,201 Speaker 6: And we appreciate your smsage yesterday throughout proceedings to day. 417 00:22:22,761 --> 00:22:24,721 Speaker 6: You know, you've been a rock for us throughout the 418 00:22:24,801 --> 00:22:27,281 Speaker 6: last couple of years and you've let us spend You've 419 00:22:27,321 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 6: heard the sad and the good and the funny and 420 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: it's not so funny, and yeah, we're. 421 00:22:34,041 --> 00:22:34,241 Speaker 3: Wow. 422 00:22:34,761 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: Well and really this this is now the start of 423 00:22:39,801 --> 00:22:40,641 Speaker 2: the investigation. 424 00:22:45,041 --> 00:22:49,521 Speaker 1: Been a hard, hard, long road, very lonely at times, 425 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:58,321 Speaker 1: and right now I don't feel alone.