1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: You can listen to the Front on your smart speaker 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: every morning to hear the latest episode. Just say play 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: the news from the Australian. From the Australian, Here's what's 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: on the Front. I'm Claire Harvey. It's Wednesday, September eleventh. 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Peter Dutton will launch an attack on Prime Minister Anthony 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: Albanezi today, saying mining and resources will be obliterated if 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: the Greens and Teal candidates help Labor win the next election. 8 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Queensland's opposition leader, David Chris a Fully has vound to 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: appoint the whistleblower who exposed Australia's biggest ever forensics disaster 10 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: to overhaul the state's troubled state run DNA lab if 11 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: his party wins government next month. The bungle was exposed 12 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: in The Australians podcast Share Story and you can read 13 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: all about Chris Foley's ambitions for doctor Kirsty Wright now 14 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: at The Australian dot com dot au. A slick video 15 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: featuring unprecedented royal scenes of warmth and family love. It's 16 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: how Catherine, Princess of Wales announced the end of her 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: chemotherapy treatment and declared herself firmly in charge. That's today's story, Kate. 18 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: People a obviously incredibly curious about you. 19 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: So let's start with the obvious. 20 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: It's late twenty ten and a nervous twenty eight year 21 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: old Kate Middleton is sitting on a sofar, a giant 22 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: sapphire engagement ring glinting in the light. 23 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: That's a true romantic and yes, of course, yes, yeah, absolutely. 24 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: Weeks earlier, Kate had becoming gay to one of the 25 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: world's most eligible bachelors, Prince William. 26 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: We've been talking about marriage for a while, so it 27 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: wasn't a massively big surprise, but I took her up 28 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: somewhere nice and Kenya and unproposed. 29 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Before this ITV interview, she was a girl about London, 30 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: frequently papped for the tabloids as William's very patient girlfriend. 31 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: She's been dubbed weedy Katie, what is the girl waiting for? 32 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: After it, and probably for the rest of her life, 33 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: she became the most famous woman in the world and 34 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: the embodiment of Britain's constitutional monarchy. The dress she wore 35 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: for the photo call sold out within minutes. Pictures of 36 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: her blow dry were carried into hair salons all over 37 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the globe. The Kate effect was on, and then Catherine retreated, 38 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: raising her children, showing up at public events, giving me 39 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: occasional very polite, very guard interview on radio about her 40 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: work as an advocate for mental health or early childhood causes. 41 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: She was enigmatic, a beautiful figurehead who managed to be 42 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: immensely famous while revealing precisely nothing. In the meantime, the 43 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: Meghan markele fame rockets soared and fell back to earth. 44 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: The Duchess of Sussex flamed from joy and gratitude. 45 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: Yes, his family has been so welcoming, and. 46 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: A few of them I have to entitlement and despair. 47 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I guess, And also thank you for asking, 48 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: because not many people have asked if I'm okay to 49 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: rage concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might 50 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: be when he's born. 51 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: What and now Meghan is making jam that nobody can buy, 52 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: while Catherine has spent the year dealing with a cancer 53 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: diagnosis that has turned her into a kind of saint 54 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: in Britain. 55 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: On the head, there's Saint Catherine, I call her. She 56 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: has undergone such a significant battle and appears to be 57 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 5: winning that battle, which is so pleasing to everybody. 58 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: Jacqueline Magney is The Australian's europe correspondent. 59 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 5: We've seen the Royals in a way we've never seen 60 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 5: them before, to be so open and affectionate and very relaxed, 61 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 5: and the message that Catherine really wanted to tell everybody 62 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: that she was in control. And I thought it fascinating 63 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 5: that we saw this picture of her driving the land 64 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 5: Rover and to me, you know, that signifies she's back 65 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 5: driving the ship. 66 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: There was a lot of physical touching going on in 67 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 1: the video. At one point William kissed her on the cheek. 68 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: They're cuddling their children, very affectionate family. Those are behaviors 69 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: that we haven't seen in public from the Wales as before. 70 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: Are they No? 71 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 5: Usually they always kind of are very carefully not holding 72 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: hands at public engagements. There are no public signs of affection. 73 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 5: So this shows that they're letting the world into their 74 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: private family time and they're trying to show a very 75 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: effectively show that they are a normal family with much 76 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 5: love and very close bonds between them all, including Kate's 77 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 5: mother and father. I think that the Royals are seeing 78 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: that in this world of social media that they need 79 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: to show more of themselves because it's about being seen 80 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: and even showing that vulnerability and that affection. It's winning 81 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 5: over a lot of people, and people are strongly resonating 82 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 5: now with the Waleses. 83 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Catherine has executed a masterful cementing of her authority from 84 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: the moment she announced in March she had cancer. 85 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: We hope that you'll understand that as a family, we 86 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: now need some time space and privacy while I complete 87 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: my treatment. 88 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, Catherine, now Princess of Wales, released a new video. 89 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: As a summer comes to an end. I cannot tell 90 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: you what a relief it is to have finally completed 91 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: my chemotherapy treatment. The last nine months have been incredibly 92 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: tough for us as a family. 93 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: It's a sleek production. There's beautiful slow motion shots of 94 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: the gorgeous family of five as they frolic in a 95 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 1: field set to an emotive music track. 96 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: Life, as you know, it can change in an instant 97 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: and we've had to find a way to navigate the 98 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: stormy waters and road unknown. 99 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 5: It was only just earlier this year, the beginning of 100 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 5: the year, where we didn't know how sick she was, 101 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 5: but at the time when she released that photo using 102 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: photoshop of her with the children, and that was released 103 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 5: to reassure everybody that all was well and all wasn't well. 104 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: The photo was released in an attempt to quell misinformation 105 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: about Catherine's disappearance over the earth early months of twenty 106 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: twenty four, after what the Palace called planned abdominal surgery. 107 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: She retreated from public life with no explanation. Where is Keen? 108 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 5: We haven't seen her in three months? 109 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: He was. 110 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: Catherine in a deal done between the Palace and all 111 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 5: of the media organizations that she would release certain photos 112 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 5: at certain stages in return for basically a hands off 113 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: approach by the media in this country, and she kind 114 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: of broke that trust because she released an image that 115 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: wasn't true, and so that's why there was such this 116 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: huge furor about it at the time. I think there 117 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: would have been a little bit more sympathy if they'd 118 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 5: have known how sick she was at the time, and 119 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: certainly there's been some hasty revisions of opinion about what 120 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: went on then. I think the Palace has learned a 121 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 5: lot from that incident because they've stage managed it very 122 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: well ever since that they've taken back control they've released 123 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 5: information at a time when they fear that there were 124 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 5: certain updates that they could provide, and then now to 125 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: provide this very slick video is them taking it another 126 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: step further to kind of show the public that they 127 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: are with the public, that they understand and appreciate the 128 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: public support, and in return, they are going to let 129 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: them in with a little window into their life to 130 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 5: show them that they are happy and that they're a 131 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: very happy family. 132 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: There's still a boundary, though there isn't there, Jack. We 133 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: don't know what sort of cancer Catherine has or had, 134 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: and she's not obviously going to tell us. 135 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 5: No, she wants to keep that private, and she hasn't 136 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 5: released the cancer, but neither has King Charles. We knew 137 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: that he had prostate issues, but that the cancer is 138 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: not prostate cancer. So he also has a cancer that 139 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: we don't know about what the details are, and we 140 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 5: don't really know the extent of their treatment and what 141 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 5: it entails. 142 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Coming out. Why Catherine's candid cancer journey is just what 143 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: the doctor ordered. Don't forget. You can join our subscribers 144 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: right now at the Australian dot com dot au and 145 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: we'll be back after this break. 146 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: I was diagnosed with breast cancer. Let's put it simply, 147 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 3: and as you can imagine, it was a bit of 148 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: a shock. 149 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: That's supermodel Elle McPherson. She's speaking with journalist Tracy Grimshaw 150 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: about her new autobiography in an episode of sixty Minutes. 151 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: In the memoir, McPherson revealed she's in remission from breast cancer. 152 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: What were you told needed to happen? Mastect to me? Chemotherapy, 153 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 3: radiation and hormone replacement. 154 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,119 Speaker 1: Macpherson said she refused those conventional therapies recommended by doctors 155 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: in favor of what she called an intuitive, heart led, 156 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: holistic approach. 157 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: I made a choice to go a more natural root 158 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: in my treatment because that's what really resonated with me. 159 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: I had been really looking at the body as in 160 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: a holistic way, so looking at emotional, mental, spiritual and 161 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: physical well being, and I believe in the body has 162 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: the infinite capacity to heal. 163 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: El McPherson's claim she effectively healed her own cancer was 164 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: met with despair from medical experts and outrage from survivors. 165 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: On cologist said McPherson had, in fact had a lumpectomy, 166 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: a completely conventional treatment, and the chemo would not be 167 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: recommended for her type of cancer anyway. Australian TV legend 168 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: and breast cancer survivor carry Anne Kennelly told The Australian 169 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: she feared McPherson's influences such that someone will die trying 170 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: to replicate her supposed medical success. 171 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 5: With Catherine. You've seen the shock, the horror, the fear, 172 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 5: the vulnerability, and then her progress through it. We got 173 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 5: an update at one point where she said she has 174 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: good days and bad It's a very honest acknowledgment of 175 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 5: the trauma that she was going through at the time 176 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 5: and what other people go through. 177 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: Doing what I can to stay cancer free is now 178 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: my focus. Although I have finished chemotherapy, my paths are 179 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: healing and full. Recovery is long and I must continue 180 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: to take each day as it comes. 181 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 5: And she took a very conventional path, and certainly El 182 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 5: McPherson took an unconventional path. We just assumed, don't we, 183 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: that she's got the best doctors in the land. She 184 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 5: can afford the best doctors in the land. She hasn't 185 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 5: had to go through the NHS system. She's been able 186 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 5: to afford to go private and so I'm sure she's 187 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 5: taken the best advice as possibly El McPherson has as well, 188 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 5: but come to very different decisions. 189 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: To all those who are continuing their own cancer journey. 190 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: I remain with you, side by side, hand in hand. 191 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: Out of darkness can come late, so let that light shine. Right. 192 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: Do you think in any way Harry and Meghan have 193 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: been the catalyst for this change in the Waleses that 194 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: they've let the public in a bit more because they 195 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: saw a different way or were criticized for the way 196 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: that they were doing things. 197 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 5: I think that some of that is true. I used 198 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: to go and watch the royals, especially at Christmas time, 199 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 5: and Catherine knew exactly where all the photographers were, and 200 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: she would never look at them. She would always look away. 201 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: And I remember one year we saw Katherine and Meghan, 202 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: the whole family, the four of them, walk in and 203 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 5: none of the photographers got a photo. The only photo 204 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 5: of the four looking at the camera was by a 205 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 5: member of the public. And that's because at that stage 206 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: they didn't like the publicity. Since then we've had, of course, 207 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 5: Meghan and Harry's very public and very different way of 208 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 5: talking to the world, and so I think that the 209 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 5: Waleses have really understood that they need to engage more 210 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 5: with the public and they've taken a different way of 211 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 5: doing that. But I think that what Meghan and Harry 212 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 5: have been doing has definitely influenced how the Palace has 213 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: reacted to this. 214 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: Jacqueline Magnae is the Australians europe correspondent. All eyes will 215 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: be on the debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris 216 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: today in the United States. You can follow it live 217 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: and read all our analysis at the Australian dot com. 218 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Dou