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Speaker 1: What we are about to talk about is a really serious,

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Speaker 1: very heavy topic. If you do have little ears in

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Speaker 1: who likes to have a lot of fun, but we

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Speaker 1: also we don't like shying away from the hard topics. Jase,

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Speaker 1: I just want to point out quickly the number for

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Speaker 1: Lifeline is thirteen eleven fourteen. If you're someone you know

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Speaker 1: who's struggling and in need of help.

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Speaker 2: I think we've got a responsibility while doing this show

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Speaker 2: to talk about issues in people's lives, not just the

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Speaker 2: light stuff, but the heavy stuff as well.

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Speaker 1: And this stuff is never easy to talk about jas

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Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes we throw around things to talk

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Speaker 1: about in our meetings and this came up, and I

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Speaker 1: think we all agreed that this is something we needed

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Speaker 1: to talk about because it's something that affects a lot

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you two scary stats. The first

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Speaker 2: one is Australia is now in the top ten countries

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Speaker 2: when it comes to suicide rate in the world.

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Speaker 3: That's scary, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It is terrifying as a data. Three kids like, just

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Speaker 2: absolutely terrifying. This is the other one that really rocked me.

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Speaker 2: By the age of twenty five, one in two of

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Speaker 2: us will be impacted by suicide in some way.

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Speaker 1: It seems unbelievable, doesn't.

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Speaker 2: We've got one of our producers we call a gen Z.

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Speaker 2: Her name is Ali, joining us in the studio. Alie,

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Speaker 2: how old are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm twenty four, and.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately you two have been impacted.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was twenty two at the time. So I

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Speaker 4: lost three people in one year to suicide, and one

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Speaker 4: of them was my best friend and she wasn't even

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Speaker 2: Three people in one year.

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Speaker 4: Three people in one year, three friends three years. So

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Speaker 4: one of them was like my ride or die best friend.

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Speaker 4: One of them was like one of my childhood friends

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Speaker 4: who I went to school with, like really close friend.

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Speaker 4: And then one of them was a guy who was

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Speaker 4: really good friends with as well. All in the same year,

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Speaker 4: all in the same all from the same small town.

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Speaker 2: Did they know each other?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they all knew each other personally.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so sorry you've had to go through that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry that young people are having to deal

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Speaker 1: we do hear unfortunately that often in the country it

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Speaker 1: is where it is most prevalent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: How far apart?

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Speaker 4: So the first one, well, I actually lost four people

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Speaker 4: in one year. One of them was just like a

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Speaker 4: devastating car crash and that happened in March, and a

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Speaker 4: week later was where my best friend passed away from suicide.

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Speaker 4: And then the next one was in December, and then

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Speaker 2: So technically, were they all like the linked.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Yes and no, probably because they all

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Speaker 4: did know each other. We're all from the same small town,

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Speaker 4: so all four of them were all from my hometown,

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Speaker 4: so they all knew it.

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Speaker 2: After you lost your second friend, was it everyone then,

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Speaker 2: Like to me, you'd be freaking out going, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: we've now lost two friends. Yeah, you'd be checking in

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Speaker 2: from anyone else. Was there any signs with your third friend?

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Speaker 3: None at all?

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Speaker 2: And see that's terrifying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why, even because I'm so close to

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Speaker 4: realize how important it is to check in on your friends.

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Speaker 1: So there were no signs from any of these young

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Speaker 3: Either two of them were like just complete shock.

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Speaker 4: One of them, she was a little like we all

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm okay now I think it happened. So this all happened.

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Speaker 3: It started in twenty twenty two March twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: The first year was very.

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Speaker 4: Rough, and I think having a good group of friends

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Speaker 4: But you're always thinking about it like it never goes away,

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Speaker 4: Like you know, you change as a person and you're

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Speaker 4: never going to be the same person you were before

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Speaker 4: any of that happened.

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Speaker 2: This scary question. But as you were dealing with that,

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Speaker 2: obviously you would have started spiraling, yeah and felt depressed.

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Speaker 3: Yeap.

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Speaker 2: Did you start getting bad thoughts as well?

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Speaker 4: No? I think because I saw the impact that it

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Speaker 4: friends with their families too. We were all checking on

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Speaker 4: was very rough for all of us for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's a lot to go through for anyone,

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Speaker 2: but for a twenty two year old girls.

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Speaker 1: This is what's so scary these a young people is

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Speaker 1: young people that you just wish could see themselves through

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Speaker 1: someone else's eyes. Yeah, I mean we say it's young people.

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Speaker 1: It's not just young people. We're talking about what's happened

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Speaker 1: to you and your friends now though, Ellie, and did

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Speaker 1: you was it was mental health and these conversations, in

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Speaker 1: conversations amongst your friends when you were when you're in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we talk.

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Speaker 4: We actually don't talk as much about it as we

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Speaker 4: should have. We definitely do now because we've all learned

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Speaker 4: the importance of it now. But I mean I did

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Speaker 3: It was very like under the cover.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's a thing like people put on

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Speaker 2: Not that was the town because you mentioned you from

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Speaker 2: a small town in far north Queenslan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the first time I went home was for Christmas.

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Speaker 4: going home for a while because every time I went

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Speaker 3: Not another tragedy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like what am I doing again here? For the

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Speaker 2: They should be joyful trips. It should be like I'm

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Speaker 4: In fact, yeah, the town well, because we're all still friends.

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Speaker 4: Like it's it's so it's such a small type community,

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Speaker 4: so everyone is very supportive with each other, and we've

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Speaker 4: actually come like kind of come up with the like

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Speaker 4: our small town has come up with a little like phrase.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could say.

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Speaker 4: It's like tell your mates you love them and like

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Speaker 4: tell your mates you love them, no matter what. And

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Speaker 4: I think that it's brought us all closer, if anything,

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Speaker 4: and to be supportive and like taking the stigma away

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Speaker 4: from like mental health as a topic.

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Speaker 2: Really tell us your four friends' names and a fun

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Speaker 2: memory that comes to mind with each of them.

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Speaker 3: We'll seep who was my best friend?

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Speaker 4: So everything I lived here in Melbourne with her when

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Speaker 4: I first moved here, so she was.

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Speaker 2: Responsible for taking you out your first night Melbourne.

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Speaker 3: M Poppy was the other one.

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Speaker 4: She was my childhood best friend, so we went to

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Speaker 4: boarding school together and we were the little rat bags.

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Speaker 2: So I'm shocked we got.

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Speaker 3: A lot of Chile together.

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Speaker 4: Jack was one of them. I was with him for

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Speaker 4: a while so that was always nice being with him.

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Speaker 4: And that's the three of them, and then Shanty. We

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Speaker 4: grew up together and rode.

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Speaker 3: Horses, which was a lot of fun. Also. They were

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Speaker 3: all just great people.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they'd be very proud of you, right

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Speaker 2: and talking about this as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're proud of you too, Sissy. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Hey. There's some amazing services out there as well. I

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Speaker 2: think the most obvious choice is Lifeline thirteen eleven fourteen.

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Speaker 2: If you're ever in a dark spot and you need

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Speaker 2: someone to talk to, They're an incredible service. They're free

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Speaker 2: and they are always there.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely