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Speaker 1: Doctor Schavanni Gupta, Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me house things.

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Speaker 1: In South Florida.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the weather must be starting to get really

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Speaker 3: nice now, is it.

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Speaker 4: It's nice in the winter and then once we hit

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Speaker 4: summer we just hide here.

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Speaker 3: Ave of course, yes, you so you're you would be

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Speaker 3: the equivalent of Queensland in Australia, right, which every time

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Speaker 3: I go to Queensland in winter, I go, oh, I

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Speaker 3: have to move here, I have to move here, And

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Speaker 3: then I go to Queensland in summer and go, there's

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Speaker 3: no way I'm moving.

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Speaker 1: Here because it's just so hot and humid.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And where are you are you born and bred in Florida.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually from Houston, Texas, and I grew up to

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Speaker 4: an Indian family that took me to India every year.

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Speaker 4: So basically I was born to live in really hot climates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see, you certainly right.

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Speaker 3: So tell me about your indianheritage. When did you Was

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Speaker 3: it your parents who moved to the States.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So my parents moved to the States in the

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Speaker 4: late seventies. They had me in the early eighties, and

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Speaker 4: luckily they hit the American dream pretty fast. They worked

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Speaker 4: really hard. They created a great business, and they were

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Speaker 4: so successful that they were able to start bringing all

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Speaker 4: their parents and their cousins and their families over from India.

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Speaker 4: But I also went to India growing up every single year,

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Speaker 4: and so when I went there, I always was wondering,

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Speaker 4: like why are there two worlds?

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Speaker 2: India is so.

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Speaker 4: Different than growing up in America. Everything they do there

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Speaker 4: they approach differently, especially health and wellness and when they

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Speaker 4: treat you. So growing up I was always sick, always

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Speaker 4: had colds and coughs, and never felt well. I was

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Speaker 4: always airsick, seasick, carsick, And when I go to India,

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Speaker 4: my grandma would treat me with tumeric and hang and spices.

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Speaker 4: And in the US we'd go to the drug store

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Speaker 4: for antibiotics. So I grew up in two worlds, which

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Speaker 4: is what led me to falling in love with the

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Speaker 4: health and wellness world and always trying to understand, like

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Speaker 4: what can we do to perform better and be healthier?

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Speaker 4: Because I was born with this weak health constitution and

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Speaker 3: Interesting I was in India in nineteen ninety three, I

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Speaker 3: traveled around the world. It took a year off from university,

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Speaker 3: travel around the world for a year, worked in different places.

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Speaker 3: And I spent three months in India in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: three and it had a massive impact on me.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when I got there.

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Speaker 3: I met some a fellow traveler when I got there,

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Speaker 3: and he said, you're going to find that India, he says,

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Speaker 3: is completely and utterly bonkers.

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Speaker 1: He said, you will fall in.

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Speaker 3: Love with it, and then it will drive you absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 3: And there'll be a point where you go, I have

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Speaker 3: about a week later you'll miss it. And that just

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Speaker 3: exactly the way it played out.

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Speaker 2: It's so true. That is India in a nutshell. It's

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Speaker 2: a very good description actually.

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Speaker 3: And I remember I remember on my second day or something,

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Speaker 3: and just and that'd be like excuse.

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Speaker 1: Me, and the look at me like I've got two hits,

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Speaker 1: what's your problem?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: I know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's very crazy that the inability to follow rules is

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Speaker 4: quite funny there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and traffic.

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Speaker 3: I remember driving and it was just like, who ever

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Speaker 1: I'm sure exactly as.

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Speaker 4: You're driving down the road. No, it's the same. I

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Speaker 4: was there three four months ago. The trucks are hanging

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Speaker 4: It's just crazy.

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Speaker 3: And I remember our tip was taking a tree and

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Speaker 3: was traveling with me and we're sitting We're chatting to

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a different world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 4: It is. It's crazy to me. Sometimes it's almost like

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Speaker 4: a disregard for human life in that chaos it's like,

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Speaker 4: because you have a billion people, you just think that whatever.

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Speaker 4: And here in the US, we very much are in

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Speaker 4: the West, we just value each life as so much

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Speaker 4: and there it's like just chaos and they're used to it.

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Speaker 2: It's so different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've got so many stories about about India, but

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Speaker 3: they they really are burdened into my mind. It was

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Speaker 3: an absolutely fabulous eye opening time. I mean, one day

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Speaker 3: I saw a guy with both elephant titus and leprosy

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Speaker 3: on me. Actually, because of that guy, every single day

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Speaker 3: for the last thirty years, I've done a gratitude ritual

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Speaker 3: and just like you know, how high lucky am I

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Speaker 3: just because of where I was born that you know

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Speaker 3: of just high things rolled And this guy who did

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Speaker 1: You know, pretty crazy. But as you say, there's lots

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Speaker 1: of things they do different.

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Speaker 3: And ire vegic medicine and you know, so I know

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Speaker 3: a little bit about it from from my time in India,

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Speaker 3: but you're an expert in ire vegic medicine. Just just

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Speaker 3: give us the overall view of it kind of when

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Speaker 3: did it start? What's the general approach that ira Vegic

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Speaker 3: medicine takes. It's different to the West.

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Speaker 4: Sure so Veda means the science of life. It's the

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Speaker 4: science of how to live our lives in a preventive way.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like an instruction manual on how to

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Speaker 4: this ancient system of health, healing and medicine from India

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Speaker 4: that's over five thousand years old, and so in India

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Speaker 4: for thousands of years they have lived by all these

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Speaker 4: herbology and using the super spices and super herbs, plant medicine,

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Speaker 4: as are healing modality and natural remedies for our health.

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Speaker 4: We teach about circadian rhythm, which is becoming popular now,

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Speaker 4: circadian clock chronobiology, really focusing on sleep as a key

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Speaker 4: pillar of health. We teach about gut digestive fire and

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Speaker 4: how this digestive fire in us is the center of

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Speaker 4: our metabolism, our immune system, our brain, health, our mood,

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Speaker 4: everything is tied to gut. So isn't it interesting that

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Speaker 4: now we have got microbiome science saying the same thing

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Speaker 4: that Iraveda said five thousand years ago. Then we teach

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Speaker 4: about the softvic diet, this yogic diet and how to

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Speaker 4: really nourish ourselves and focus on nourishment, eating seasonally, eating

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Speaker 4: we do things now. And then another big pillar is detoxification,

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Speaker 4: So we teach about detoxing the body, cleaning and clearing

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Speaker 2: It's like your.

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Speaker 4: Annual oil change that's required so that everything runs smoothly

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Speaker 4: and runs well. And then finally the sixth pillar would

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Speaker 4: the daily self care rituals that build a rhythm that

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Speaker 4: are detoxing but also so supportive for vibrant health.

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Speaker 3: It sounds very much like integrative medicine in the West

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Speaker 3: NI and many functionals so I'm involved with, said the

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Speaker 3: Australian College of Natural Environmental Medicine. There's lots of integrative

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Speaker 1: He ended up with cushion's disease. But her approach has

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Speaker 3: But isn't it interesting that that's five So five thousand

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Speaker 3: years ago they were talking about I get the herbology,

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Speaker 3: but they were talking about circadian rhythms and they got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all been there the whole time, and now

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Speaker 4: we're pulling from it and pulling from it. And I

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Speaker 4: just want to give Irava the credit because so much

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Speaker 4: comes from iravated wisdom. It's in the textbooks. And then

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Speaker 4: I also just want to highlight that these tools are

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Speaker 4: all for all of us to pick up and use,

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Speaker 4: we want. So we oftentimes think, oh, I'm not well,

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Speaker 3: M Like almost if we just interrogate a couple of

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Speaker 3: those things. So the herbology stuff really became in to

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Speaker 3: telling us what they're used for. And this is used

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Speaker 3: so much stuff there. It's just ancient knowledge rights. It's

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Speaker 3: There was they saw an oranga time treating its wound

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Speaker 4: They know what to eat, to purge, to to do

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Speaker 2: They need it.

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Speaker 3: And then the circadian rhythms and when I talk at workshops.

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Speaker 3: I say to people almost every month, I'm reading a

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Speaker 3: research paper about what happens to your biology when you

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Speaker 3: met with your circadian cycles, because we now understand that

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Speaker 3: hormones run off circadian rhythms, and actually most of your

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Speaker 3: sales run off circadian rhythms. True, So tell me, tell

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Speaker 3: me the approach that iodic medicine takes around circadian rhythms.

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Speaker 1: And and where did it? Where did that that insights?

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Speaker 3: Where did they actually origin it from?

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Speaker 4: So in IRV the the wisdom and the teachings say

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Speaker 4: that our body is part of nature. Nature's part of us.

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Speaker 4: We live according to nature's clock. We are meant to

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Speaker 4: have the most energy and gain our energy for the day.

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Speaker 4: We're meant to eat when it's high noon in the sky.

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Speaker 4: is going to slow you down. And so by honoring

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Speaker 4: that gut digestifiers there to do its job, and we're

441
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Speaker 4: not meant to dampen it or kill it. We're going

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Speaker 4: to support the creating of that ojus and that vitality.

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Speaker 4: So anyone who's had like a surgery or any trauma happened,

444
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: you might come out of that feeling like goush, I

445
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Speaker 4: lost my mojo.

446
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: I don't have my energy.

447
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Speaker 4: That's your vitality. And so we have a whole protocol

448
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Speaker 4: of gut healing and adding in strengthening foods that help

449
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Speaker 4: us bring back that vitality. So we have like everything

450
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Speaker 4: working on all cylinders and feeling our best.

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Speaker 3: And I like this idea of opening and closing the fire,

452
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Speaker 3: and you know, Western science would back that up.

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Speaker 1: That shows that people.

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Speaker 3: Who have who eat multiple times a day, you know,

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Speaker 3: some of the thinking used to be, I'll eat multiple

456
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Speaker 3: times a day. It's better for weight loss because you're

457
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Speaker 3: you're actually activating your digestive system and and and your

458
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Speaker 3: your the theeramic effective food and stuff like that. But

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Speaker 3: now I think what's pretty clear is if you're eating

460
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Speaker 3: throughout the day, you're constantly spiking IGF one and that's

461
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Speaker 3: not great in terms of cancer risk. So yeah, interesting

462
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Speaker 3: that the way that it lines up with ia Veda.

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Speaker 1: But tell me a little bit about tongue scraping.

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Speaker 3: I just kind of came across that recently and yeah,

465
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Speaker 3: oh wow, there's actually some pretty good evidence around tongue scraping.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, give us the slant on tongue scraping.

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Speaker 4: Sure, so we have something called then nat Jadia, the

468
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Speaker 4: daily self care rituals that when you build them into

469
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Speaker 4: your life, help support your circadian rhythm because you're building

470
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Speaker 4: these in and their habits stacked usually on top of

471
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Speaker 4: other habits. So in the morning, we recommend starting with

472
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Speaker 4: water hydrating the system, creating paristosis, so we all have

473
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Speaker 4: a daily at least daily healthy bowel movement, which is

474
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Speaker 4: so important. And then we recommend brushing your teeth and

475
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Speaker 4: then tongue scraping with a copper tongue scraper. And so

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Speaker 4: what you're gonna do is you're going to gently scrape

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Speaker 4: the tongue seven to fourteen times. And just like in

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Speaker 4: traditional Chinese medicine and reflexology, they talk about how all

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Speaker 4: the organs of the body are reflected on the bottom

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Speaker 4: of the feet, in the same way in Iurvade that

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Speaker 4: we teach that all the organs of the body are

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Speaker 4: reflected on the tongue. And so when you're scraping the tongue,

483
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Speaker 4: you're actually massaging all the organs of the body. You're

484
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Speaker 4: detoxing the body, you're removing amah from your system. That

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Speaker 4: toxin film that's accumulated throughout, and there's a white film

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Speaker 4: that accumulates on most of our tongues that shows us

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Speaker 4: that level of toxin build up that's happening in the body.

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Speaker 4: So by scraping it gently seven to fourteen times, you're

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Speaker 4: removing that film, achieving that goal, igniting digestive fire, and

490
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Speaker 4: your taste buds will be able to taste better, which

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Speaker 4: is also helpful with our f food and taste.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, let's not talk about the Yogic diet. And I

494
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Speaker 3: do want to jump on and talk about tumor because

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Speaker 3: I know, I know you've got a heap of research

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Speaker 3: around that. But just give us the over views in

497
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Speaker 3: are veda. Is all of it vegetarian or is there

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Speaker 3: room for meat in it? Or what's what's the general

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Speaker 3: overview and guidelines around an iavetic diet.

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Speaker 4: You know, overall it was vegetarian, but there's no laws

501
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Speaker 4: against things. Meat is fine in the Yogic diet. It's

502
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Speaker 4: very much about moderation. It's understanding your body your needs,

503
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: Like based on your mind body constitution, you might be

504
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Speaker 4: more VTA, which is more air ether, you might need

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Speaker 4: heavier and grounding foods, and based on where you live

506
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Speaker 4: and the temperatures and the climate, that might mean seafood,

507
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Speaker 4: that might mean red meat, just depends bit the people.

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Speaker 4: We have a different diet, Guffa. People have a different diet,

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Speaker 4: and so in general, the diet saying according to the

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Speaker 4: season you're in. If you're entering a hot season, eat

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Speaker 4: those seasonal foods.

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Speaker 2: They will keep you cool, they will keep.

513
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Speaker 4: You more centered. We teach about eating nutritious like nutrient dense,

514
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 4: nutrient variety, cooking food fresh every single day, not eating leftovers,

515
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Speaker 4: not eating dead food, really watching whose intention went into

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Speaker 4: the foods. When you eat out in a restaurant, if

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Speaker 4: you don't feel good, that means the cook wasn't happy.

518
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: And so we very much believe keep the cook happy

519
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: so that everyone in the house is happy.

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Speaker 2: And that's part of our culture.

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Speaker 4: Is very much center of the house is the hearth

522
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Speaker 4: and the woman and the home and the food, and

523
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Speaker 4: so really cooking that food with love and in that

524
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Speaker 4: honoring of what that food means to the family is

525
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: very important. And then we use a lot of spices

526
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Speaker 4: in there, and those spices have tremendous benefits. So that's

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Speaker 4: also part of eating that yogic diet way.

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Speaker 3: No, that's a very nice segue into your research and

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Speaker 3: your PhD around Chumric. And I remember reading quite a

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Speaker 3: number of years ago and just looking at the levels

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Speaker 3: of obesity and diabetes in India, which are very very significant, because,

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Speaker 3: as you'll know, I don't know if it's still the case,

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Speaker 3: but certainly, whenever I was there, being overweight was a

534
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Speaker 3: sign of wealth and it was actually a good thing

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Speaker 3: to be overweighth but then created a massive diabetes problem.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: So India's got, particularly alongst the middle class, a massive

538
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Speaker 3: diabetes problem, but very low Alzheimer's disease, right, And in

539
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Speaker 3: many research circles, Alzheimer's is called type three diabetes, and

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00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 3: we know that the ideology of both diseases is quite similar.

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Speaker 3: And I remember reading the suggestion that the reason why

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Speaker 3: there's high obesity and diabetes but very very low Alzheimer's

543
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Speaker 3: is they thought the tumoric right, and the active ingredient

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Speaker 3: in it. So that's a very nice segue into your research.

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Speaker 3: So how did you get interested enough to have your

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Speaker 3: entire PhD around Tumeric and then just take us on

547
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Speaker 3: your PhD journey?

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Speaker 4: Sure, so my whole family is obese and diabetic, and

549
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: growing up going to India every year, I would see

550
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Speaker 4: this devastating effect. My grandma needed a quadruple bypass. My

551
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: grandfather was Parkinson's and then his leg got amputated, and

552
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: then the other grandpa heart attack stroke, And I was like,

553
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: what is this? This is the worst genetics on earth,

554
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: and this is what's coming for me. Like, you guys

555
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 4: work so hard, you build so much success, and then

556
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: the last quarter is a horrible disease and devastation. There

557
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: has to be a different way. And so that really

558
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Speaker 4: set me on my path of trying to understand how

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Speaker 4: do you prevent diabetes? Oh, it's inflammation, it's sugar, and

560
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: it's exercise, Like you have to manage your body weight

561
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Speaker 4: and obesity. Okay, so I always avoided sugar. I've been

562
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Speaker 4: an exercise aholic since high school. I have always lifted

563
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Speaker 4: weight like it's part of my DNA and job to

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Speaker 4: fight against that. And thankfully I'm in my forties now

565
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: and I don't worry about it. I don't even keep

566
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Speaker 4: it in my field because it's not part of who

567
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: I am. I know how to build health, but inflammation,

568
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: unfortunately is this root cause issue that even if you

569
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: can be really good, you can still be inflamed. And

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00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: I find that for my health, like I have clean water,

571
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: clean air, I don't have any necessarily viruses or bacteria,

572
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: but there's so many factors that inflame us. Our food sources, water,

573
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: air cleaning products, skincare, anything foreign to the body, fried food, seed, oils,

574
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Speaker 4: it just accumulates.

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Speaker 1: And then psychological stress, yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, stress alone. And so it's almost like I've been

577
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Speaker 4: able to mitigate every inflammatory factor in my whole life

578
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: except stress, and I'm like, oh, like, really, I can't

579
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: lose on that one too.

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Speaker 2: That's not fair.

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Speaker 4: And so I really think of it as if we're

582
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Speaker 4: not going to like consistently reduce the consistent, constant what

583
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Speaker 4: is it called chronic, low grade persistent inflammation that's causing

584
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Speaker 4: a havoc and burning like a low grade fire within us,

585
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 4: we're not going to win at our health no matter what,

586
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: because inflammation is that root cause. So many people are

587
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: suffering from something itis and that's the problem. And so

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00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: when I was in my master's classes in orbology, they

589
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: started talking about the spices which I use in my cooking,

590
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Speaker 4: tumoric ginger, human seeds, fenyl, we have edgewine, heeing, all

591
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 4: these cool spices, coriander, Every spice has a benefit, and

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Speaker 4: when I looked at them, a lot of those benefits

593
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Speaker 4: lined up with what we call the benefits from superfoods

594
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Speaker 4: when you eat salmon and spinach and cocoa powder and

595
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 4: macha powder and gojiberries and a lot of these things.

596
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: In modern day times, it's for the superfood antioxidant, anti

597
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Speaker 4: inflammatory benefits the super spices from arab that provide that

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Speaker 4: as well. So it's almost like this wisdom and science

599
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: from irav that was built into the entire Indian cooking

600
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Speaker 4: system so that you get it in a daily micro

601
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: dose every single day. I thought, Okay, that's interesting, And

602
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Speaker 4: simultaneously there was so much science coming out on tumoric

603
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Speaker 4: and how when you extract curcumin out of it it

604
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: can create this therapeutic significant result. So I was like, Okay,

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00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: I wonder if we could take tumeric and then solve

606
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: all of the world's problems. That was my theory, and

607
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: so I went on that journey with my PhD. And

608
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: I just started reading the science and reading the science,

609
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: and it took years because I wasn't actually accustomed to

610
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Speaker 4: reading that kind of science, but I basically eight through

611
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: my PhD to keep myself sitting and focused and reading

612
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: all of it. But what I discerned from all of

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Speaker 4: it was between me us your arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, cardiovascular disease,

614
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: even cancer in some cases, every single inflammatory disease, so

615
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: many of the gut health diseases. We know that curcumin

616
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: has an impact. There's science, and there's over fifteen thousand

617
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: scientific studies at least in PubMed right now, and that

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Speaker 4: number is growing exponentially.

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Speaker 3: And so it's your repute, can I throw in, as

620
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Speaker 3: well as all the science, a personal story and in

621
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Speaker 3: our house. So my wife got she injured her thumb

622
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: and got diagnosed with arthritis on her thumb and was

623
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Speaker 3: prescribed anti inflammatories and instead started taking timeric and and

624
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: after about a month on the chimeric, the pain which

625
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: had been there for months, completely went away. And the

626
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Speaker 3: inn the two times that she's ran out of tumeric

627
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Speaker 3: for for over a week, it comes back right. So

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Speaker 3: and the yeah, the I have dug into the research

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Speaker 3: around turmeric and curcumen as an anti inflammatory, and I

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Speaker 3: think just to underscore what you said that most people

631
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Speaker 3: do not realize that almost every single chronic disease has

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Speaker 3: got an inflammatory component to it, right, And and when

633
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: you get systemic inflammation, I mean they actually Gary Professor

634
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: Gary Eggers actually coined the term inflammaging right exactly, that

635
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: we age from inflammation at a cellular level. And me

636
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: and you could riff on about what happens in the

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Speaker 3: cellular pathways and bore the life out of our listeners,

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00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: but it's really just that understanding of just how widely

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Speaker 3: cellular inflammation is implicated in all of these different diseases.

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Speaker 3: And you reduce inflammation, you reduce a lot of the symptoms,

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Speaker 3: and in some cases can.

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Speaker 1: Actually cure the diseases right.

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Speaker 4: Correct exactly, And that's why I fell in love with it.

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00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, tumor is that powerful? And

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00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: then whenever anyone had a problem, I was like, tumor

646
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: can fix that. And finally my family was like, listen,

647
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Speaker 4: I know you're like in my big fat Greek wedding,

648
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: this is windex to you. It works on everything for everybody,

649
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: but fine, the tels which one? And when I went

650
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: to look around at the tumor suppments, it was really

651
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Speaker 4: hard to discern actually which ones are good because in

652
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 4: supplements we can be so varied in the labels. And

653
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Speaker 4: I said, you know what, I'm actually going to create

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Speaker 4: my own and I'm going to see if I can

655
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Speaker 4: impact all of orthopedic medicine because every time I got hurt,

656
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: they give me NSAIDs, And when I took n sets

657
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven for seven ten days, I get

658
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: these stomach aches every time I ate, and so I

659
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: was really frustrated.

660
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: Also just to explain insights for people nonsteroil and anti

661
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: inflammatory so ibuprofen, those sorts of things, right, because I

662
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: don't think that's as widely used over here.

663
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: In Australia as it is in the States.

664
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 4: Okay, terminology, Yeah, and a lot of people know now

665
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: that they can't even take insets they can't tolerate, and

666
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: SATs some of us just don't do well on them.

667
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: And I thought, let me create my term long term

668
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: they're bad ju June as well.

669
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 4: Right, So just because things are sold over the counter,

670
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean they're safe, especially in the long run.

671
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: And a lot of people who have chronic joint pain

672
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: take these things every single day forever. So I ended

673
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: up creating my own and I just had this dream

674
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: of if I could change all of orthopedic medicine, then

675
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: I'll also go after rheumatology then GI just going down

676
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: my list. And so that's the work I've done for

677
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: a decade now is I created these formulas. They completely work.

678
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 4: Orthopedics loves them. They've cut their entented use down significantly.

679
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: We win it chronic joint pain. And so once I

680
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: did that, I kind of got frustrated because people were

681
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 4: taking my pill for the problem, and I was like, wait,

682
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: don't you know that lifestyle would actually fix it, Like

683
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: we can do both. We can do the synergistic effect

684
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: and then you don't have to take the pill. And

685
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: so that's been my mission for the last few years

686
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: as I teach ira Veda and I say, if you

687
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: want to put the fire out fast, take the tumor.

688
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: It will do the job. But once we got that

689
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: fire out, we have to shift the lifestyle because otherwise

690
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: we'll keep causing the fire. And so I like both.

691
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: I like the adjunct solutions. Always is do A and

692
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: do B and then come off the pills whenever they

693
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 4: are faster.

694
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: So am I right in understanding that the active ingredient

695
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: that is the real anti inflammatory part of tumoric is carcumin.

696
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: Yes, so out of the entire tumoric plant, only three

697
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 4: percent is the kerkcuminoids. So when we're eating a teaspoon

698
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: of tumoric powder on our chicken, that teaspoon ninety seven

699
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: percent is just the non curcuminoid tumeric, which has some benefits,

700
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: but the most benefits come out of that three percent.

701
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: And of the three kurcuminoids, the one curcu is the

702
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: most effective at reducing inflammation. So it's important you get

703
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: the right proportion. It's important that they extract it properly

704
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: in a good way to achieve over a ninety five

705
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: percent standardization. So a lot of sophomas have no standardization,

706
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 4: no third party testing, or the extract just to meet

707
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: the minimum as opposed to overshooting it and landing there.

708
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: And so for me, I invested in an ingredient that

709
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 4: does the absolute best work and a third party test,

710
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 4: and I make it in the US. So we are

711
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: giving like this medical grade curcumen that drives a therapeutic result,

712
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 4: which is what I'm after.

713
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: I think that's that's really important to dive into it again.

714
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: I remember I was on a it was I can't

715
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: remember what the workshop was, but there was a professor

716
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: talking about grandfathering Off research and he was talking about

717
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: I can't remember what the supplement was, but showed that

718
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: the harvest time of when they did the plant massively

719
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 3: impacted upon the intensity of the active ingredient and that

720
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: only in certain areas of the world was that plant

721
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: get really high in the active ingredient. But then he said,

722
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 3: so once that research was done on this particular formula,

723
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: people were making the sam in inverted commas the same

724
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: compound or the same supplement, but not in the same

725
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: conditions and didn't have the same impact. Right, So just

726
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: because one brand of fish oil that's done in a

727
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: clinical trial is really good for Brian health, doesn't mean

728
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: that the really cheap fish oil that you get in

729
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: the chemist is good for the Brian health. And the

730
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: same for circumen and any other supplement exactly.

731
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: And so that's why you have to work with the

732
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: indigenous population, you have to work with the farmers. I

733
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 4: was just in India meeting with the supplier teams in

734
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 4: Bombay and Hyderabad, and it's interesting the level of detail

735
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: everyone's getting into because we understand that these are phyto

736
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 4: botanicals and they're being studied at the level of pharma,

737
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: so there's clinical research those active ingredients. We're pushing for

738
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: more actives based on which strains are grown and where

739
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 4: and when. And then once you have that down, Okay,

740
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: we got the raw material, what is the extraction process. Sure,

741
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: you can use adulterated chemical processes and strip things out,

742
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: or you can do it the right way. It takes

743
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: more time, everything's more expensive, but when you do it

744
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: the right way, you're going to get the exact result

745
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 4: you want. And so for me, I was there and

746
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: I was like, can we do more? Like what more

747
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: can we do? I want to have a turbericuled Elite

748
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: next time. And they're like, Shawnny, you're already driving a

749
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 4: perfect result, Like what more do you want? I was like, listen,

750
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: there's so much, so many problems to solve. We have

751
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: to keep fighting inflammation at every level. So it's interesting

752
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: the level of detail, and then we can do third

753
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: party testing premit and post production now microbe testing, heavy

754
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 4: metal testing, so that we're very sure that what we

755
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: providing is exactly the purest form of what we want

756
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: to provide. And I think that level of medical grade

757
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 4: supplements is going to one day become the standard. Right now,

758
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: people are still buying twenty dollars solutions off Amazon and wherever,

759
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: but I think most people are wisening up to if

760
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: you want a real result, you have to invest in

761
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: the people who are investing in the science and research

762
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 4: for those real results.

763
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is a tricky feel and it does

764
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: it also dilutes the research, so you know that there

765
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: will be different research studies that come out that will

766
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: question So let's just take a Mega three because I

767
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 3: know that very well. There are some studies that then

768
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: show a Mega three is no real impact on cardiovascular

769
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: function and theme. And you look at the study, the

770
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: doses that they use was way too low and the

771
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: balance of e EPA and DJA was wrong. And when

772
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: you do the proper studies with the right dosages and

773
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: the right purity. And to your point, there are are

774
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: so many Amiga three supplements that you can buy, and

775
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: quite a lot of them from independent testing are actually rancid, right,

776
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: And I'm actually.

777
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: Doing more harm.

778
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: And that's why in the Amiga three world there's this

779
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: nonprofit body called I four I think it's called that

780
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: will independently test all Amiga three supplements. They will screen

781
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: them for thousands of toxins. They will test them for purity,

782
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: so that when you're buying supplements, having stuff that's third

783
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: party tested is really really important and understanding the purity

784
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: and the quality of the ingredient. But this is a

785
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 3: mindfield for consumers, right is like the average Joe blow

786
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: on the street doesn't know one good supplement from the other.

787
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: In chemist Warehouse, which is a big, massive.

788
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: Place in Australia, I don't think they have it in

789
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: the States, but yeah, they just go in and go

790
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: others Omega three, I'll have the cheapest one, or there's curcumen.

791
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm just going to get the cheapest one.

792
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 3: And you're not getting the same thing, are you.

793
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: No, And that's why it's so important to go to practitioners,

794
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: go to people who are obsessed with this. We have

795
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: longevity conferences, functional medicine conferences. At those conferences, I do booths.

796
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 4: I meet the founders. They want to look me in

797
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: the eye and know what I'm about. They're going to

798
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 4: ask me for my third party certifications. They are comparing

799
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: all the supplements against each other. So I ask my

800
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 4: functional medicine doctor who's moved the D in their body?

801
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: Who moved the other value. I'm not taking supplements that

802
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: don't move values in the blood or in the stool testing.

803
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: So you have practitioners who know what's impacting. And I

804
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: can't even buy off the shelf supplements now because I

805
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: don't trust them at all.

806
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting.

807
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: So carcumin is one of three carcuminoids, I think you said,

808
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: and then there are other compounds in turmeric.

809
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: So is because my wife was then okay, so what

810
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: I do?

811
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 3: So she gets a practitioner them, which is like, they

812
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: do both the turmeric and they do a carcumin right,

813
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: and they both have pepperine in them because I believe

814
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: that black pepper helps with the absorption of it. So

815
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: is there an an advantage of having both and turmeric? Like,

816
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: is there other stuff from euro PhD in the turmeric

817
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 3: that is useful over and above the anti inflammatory effect

818
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: of carcumen?

819
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: Such a great question. No one has asked me that

820
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: question yet. Yes, absolutely, there's noncurcuminoid tumoric benefits.

821
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: We just haven't studied them yet.

822
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: They haven't been a part of scientific investment yet, but

823
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: they will be over time because we're always seeking like why,

824
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: how what else can we pull? I studied in a

825
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 4: lab when I was sixteen years old in Houston called

826
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: the MD Anderson Cancer Center where doctor Putta Thugerwald, the researcher,

827
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: discovered that it's a black pepper that increased the absorption

828
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: of tumoric by two Wow. I got to work in

829
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: his lab, and then twenty years later I went back

830
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: and I was like, hey, just you know, doing a

831
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: PhD on turmeric, And he sat me down and he said,

832
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: these are the presentations I present around the world. And

833
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: he goes, if you're going to make a tumoric sceppment,

834
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 4: add tuberic back in, there's a synergistic effect by putting

835
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: the curcumen with the tumeric together to create that result,

836
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: and then of course use the black pepper. And so

837
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 4: I have followed that science and that wisdom of his

838
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: huge body of research to create what I created. And

839
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: I actually created two blends because I was curious, like

840
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: I always love a b testing an idea. So I

841
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: created that classic formula that science says works, the curriculum

842
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 4: and black pepper, and I added the turmeric, and then

843
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 4: I made it a truly ira Veda synergistic formula because

844
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: in ira Veda you would have put the turmeric, which

845
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 4: I used curcuman basuilia guruci amla dry ginger, because in

846
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: Iram that we believe that a main herb will do

847
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 4: the main job. Secondary herb will support the main herb

848
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 4: and doing that whole job. Third herb will help them

849
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: go where they.

850
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Need to go.

851
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: Fourth herb increasing that absorption. Fifth rb negate the negative

852
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: effects of putting strong herbs in the body in the

853
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 4: first place, because that's a big hit. You're getting to

854
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: the body, whether it's a plant or not. And so

855
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 4: that wisdom I built into a formula called inflammation relief.

856
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: And so I've always been watching the population to see

857
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: what worked better. And it's interesting because we're all bio individuals,

858
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: so it's it's different. But I see that the synergistic

859
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 4: formula is very effective when you know you're inflamed, and

860
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: then a lot of people make the combo out of them.

861
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: But it's just been interesting to watch how turmeric does

862
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: so much in the body when people have.

863
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: A big issue.

864
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: Me pain, hip pain, back pain. It attacks that first.

865
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 4: Then there are mid range problems, and then they'll call

866
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: me and they'll say, you healed my gingivitis. That's so weird.

867
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: Nothing worked. Only when I took an end said, did

868
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: my gingivitis go away? And now tumoric does it? So,

869
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 4: like you said, even the fine things. Once we healed

870
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: that inflammation, all of a sudden, the body can go

871
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: after the smaller issues that were also little fires, and

872
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: then everything is put away. Body is at homeostasis, and

873
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: now we can just manage that with self care.

874
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: Talk to me about did you say it was it hang?

875
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: I've never heard of hang before.

876
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, talked to me about that and some of the

877
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: other herb herbs as you say in the day, it's

878
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: herbs as we call the over here, and some of

879
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 3: the other herbs and things like ginger and coriander that

880
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: are used in Indian cooking. Because there is now a

881
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 3: whole heap of emerging evidence about just the benefits of

882
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: a wide variety of herbs and how lots of the

883
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: compounds in them are actually cofactors and enzymes for for

884
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 3: biochemical pathways in the body. And I think the way

885
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: that I tend to present this to people is that

886
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: we have coexisted with plants for millions of years, and

887
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: now from our knowledge of the of the gods.

888
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: You know, we know you don't feed yourself directly.

889
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 3: Most of the food is broken down by your cup

890
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: microbiome and it feeds you. But then also that that

891
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 3: all of these compounds and polyphenols and flavonoids and and

892
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: different compounds in plants, they have widespread actions through I

893
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: really complicated biochemical posthways in the body. So talk to

894
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: us about some of the big ones in an iaveda.

895
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 4: Next to tuberic, one of the next big ones would

896
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: be ginger. Ginger Ginger's anti inflammatory, gastro protective. We know

897
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 4: we're nauseous. Gingers great for us. You know, it helps

898
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 4: ignite the digestive fire. So ginger lemon tea ginger in

899
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: your food, it's always a good benefit. Even ginger lemon

900
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: tea before a meal can be supportive in igniting those

901
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: digestive fires if you feel like you have a weak fire.

902
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 4: Another beautiful one is cuban seeds. So when we heat

903
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 4: up our Indian food and we go to cook it,

904
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: we heat ghee in the pan. First, we add a

905
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: pinch of cuban seeds and a pinch of that spice

906
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: called hank heing is also known as asafatida. But these

907
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: two spices are powerhouses because if you're going to cook

908
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 4: lentils or beans, these are like pre digestive. They're built

909
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: to help you support any food that's hard to digest.

910
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: So we consider broccoli, cauliflower. There's a lot of things

911
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: out there that are hard for the system to digest,

912
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: and these are going to do and digesting them and

913
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: thus absorbing all the nutrition from them. So we use

914
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: whole cuman seeds. We put them on that oil or

915
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: that gee once it's already warmed up, so they kind

916
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 4: of start to dance and release their aromatics, and then

917
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 4: that's the right time. You can add the hang right there,

918
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: and then we add our garlic, ginger, onion, and everything

919
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 4: else that we're going to add in there. We tend

920
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 4: to pressure cooke beans and lentils now because doctor Gundry

921
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: spoke about lectins, so pressure cookers kind of where it's

922
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: at for that for us.

923
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: Now everyone used to use a slow cooker.

924
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: And just to add a bit of depth to that,

925
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: so selectins are some people call them anti nutrients, and

926
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people say, well you shouldn't. You'll

927
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 3: see people who go to extreme right should never eat

928
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: beans and lentils because they're full of these phytal anti

929
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: nutrients and stuff like that. But what people have traditionally

930
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 3: done is soak them, which actually massively reduces the electin content.

931
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: So I'm guessing that a pressure cooker would do similar things.

932
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can soak it also, though a day before.

933
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: We like to soak our beans a day before. You

934
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 4: can soak the lentils, but that could make them kind

935
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 4: of too soft. Yead the pressure cooker, you're gonna soak

936
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: it and then it'll pressure cook it right then, but

937
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: it removes that lectin factor pretty much out of it.

938
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 4: And then coriander we love because cilantro coriander seeds or

939
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: cilantro are heavy metal detoxers. So on a daily basis,

940
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: we know we're going to have some heavy metal exposure.

941
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: So coriander is built into all of our foods and

942
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 4: it has a cooling effect because so many of our

943
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: spices are gonna be heating. We're gonna use red chili powder,

944
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 4: we're gonna use black pepper, even tumor can be heating,

945
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 4: ginger can be heating, so the coriander is that perfect

946
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: balance to cooling it all down. We also use fennel seeds.

947
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: Fennel seeds have a very gastro protective effect. We like

948
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: having fennel seeds and chewing on them after a meal

949
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: because they help with that post digestive support in the system.

950
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 4: So if you're always having gas or discomfort after you eat,

951
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 4: you could just add a little scoop of fennel.

952
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: Seeds after your meal for support.

953
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: There's a whole plethora of spice, and I invite you

954
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: guys look up Indian cooking recipes, cooking videos. I have

955
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: some on my YouTube channel. But by cooking with those spices,

956
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: you can start to make more of your meals incorporate

957
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 4: the super spices, which, like you mentioned, has a very

958
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 4: powerful effect on our gut health and our overall health

959
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 4: because each one has super food properties to them.

960
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: Now, one other compound I wanted to talk about, and

961
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's from Aya Veda is Ashwa Ganda.

962
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you were going to say it.

963
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: Man. Just the research on ashwaganda for managing cortisol and

964
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: for people who have trouble sleeping and have anxiety, like

965
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: it's just bonkers.

966
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: How useful is.

967
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: I want to do a PhD on. I want to

968
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: do a PhD on as next, but I have no

969
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: such free time. But I am pretty much obsessed with

970
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 4: that being the next spice after Tuberic and I just

971
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 4: met a supplier team that found new active ingredients in

972
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: ushagunda that nobody else has discovered yet.

973
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: So it could get really interesting.

974
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: I'm testing the product right now because I won't make

975
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: something until I know it's really effective. Ashagunda is an adaptogen.

976
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 4: It is this wonder herb. It's actually a it's from

977
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: a tree. It's like the roots and the stems of

978
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 4: the tree. But you have to be careful with eshagunda

979
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: because some people will grind the whole plant, some will

980
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 4: get the small sticks, and some will get the big sticks.

981
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 4: And there's a difference in quality based on what you choose,

982
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: and so the team I was working with sad actually

983
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 4: have to be very careful who you work with and

984
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: how you pick because people will adulterate and take all

985
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: of it and sell it to you and then it

986
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: won't be as potent or effective. But it is neurocognitive support,

987
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 4: neuroprotective anti anxiety like you mentioned cortisol. What I love

988
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 4: is all the adaptogens from I RVA that we have

989
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: a lot of them. If you're stressed and anxious, they

990
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: calm you down a few notches, and if you're low depressed,

991
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 4: they lift you up. It's like this constant thermostat that

992
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 4: just supports you with your mood, with your function, with

993
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: your health overall. So H to me is like amazing.

994
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: I hadn't realized adoptagens work both ways and it is

995
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: the same adoptogen. Or are they different types of adoptogen

996
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: that will lift you up and other ones that bring

997
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 3: you down.

998
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that different ones lift you up

999
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: and bring you down. I think they just have different mechanisms.

1000
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 4: Like we have one called Shatavari. People pronounce it chatavari.

1001
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: Chatavar is good for male and female reproductive organs, So

1002
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 4: anytime we're talking about fertility all the way to menopause,

1003
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: we would use it for women. But also when you

1004
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: want vitality in men in reproductive organs, you would use

1005
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: that one. We know Rodiola, Shissandra ushigunda. All of these

1006
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: are great for like mood stabilization. Rum Me is good

1007
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 4: for the barain. So it just depends on which one

1008
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: you're going to reach for and for what you can

1009
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: use them in oil like Brumby oil is good for

1010
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 4: head oil massage. I put into something called Deep Sleep

1011
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 4: Tea because I wanted them to calm my mind before bedtime.

1012
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 4: I just designed a tea for the afternoon because I

1013
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 4: feel like I'm just too high speed to impact and

1014
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: entering my evening and I needed something to help me

1015
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: step down a few notches. So I put Rodiola with

1016
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: prom Me with Spike and art Just I kind of

1017
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 4: keep trying to play with what is the right adaptogenic

1018
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 4: combo for us to achieve our specific goals. And even

1019
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 4: with menopause, we're seeing huge impact on hot flashes and

1020
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: night sweats using Popery and Dullcy in combination.

1021
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool. And there is just a there's a

1022
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: whole world out there.

1023
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: And when I looked into ash fora ganda, then I

1024
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 3: came a calm research on adapted gens and I'm like,

1025
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: holy shit, it's amazing.

1026
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: It is eighties.

1027
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: There is so much research out there and proper and

1028
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: proper and random, nice clinical trials as well, and obviously

1029
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: there's crop research everywhere, but I was surprised when I

1030
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 3: looked into it just how much evidence there was around adoptogens,

1031
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: particularly for stress, cortisol, anxiety, all of those sorts of things.

1032
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't look at the other areas, but

1033
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

1034
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they see this conversation.

1035
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they say astragun is as effective as fourteen psychoactric

1036
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 4: psychoactive drugs. Now that you're mentioning the science, and if

1037
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: you think about it as people who want to be

1038
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 4: high performers, sometimes we're burning the candle at both ends,

1039
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: and so we need something on board to protect us

1040
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 4: because we're going to burn it anyway. That's that's what

1041
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 4: I find is I'm going to work, and as I work,

1042
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 4: I want to protect my brain. I want to protect

1043
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: my heart, I want to protect my health. I want

1044
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: to protect my hormones. So that's where I find those

1045
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 4: adaptogens to be the perfect solution. It's like plant medicine

1046
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 4: put into us that constantly calibrates with what we're going

1047
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 4: to do to ours selves.

1048
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: Very cool, Shavanni. This has been awesome.

1049
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1053
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Speaker 3: Cool awesome, Shavanni. This has been a great overview of IVEDA.

1070
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's many many levels of depth to it,

1071
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 3: but thank you for giving us number one a really

1072
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 3: comprehensive overview of of of what it is in its entirety,

1073
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Speaker 3: but also taking us the deep dive into Tumerican the adaptogens,

1074
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 3: because I think there's a lot of benefits that we

1075
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: can get from herbs, spices, and some of the compounds

1076
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: that do not have the side effects of of of

1077
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: of medical or of pharmacological agents, and in some cases

1078
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: a shitload more effective that we're seeing.

1079
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Speaker 4: True true, I totally agree.

1080
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having.

1081
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Speaker 3: Me, Thank you enjoy the rest of what there was

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Speaker 3: left in your day in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: Thank you