1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Hello, Supercoaches, and welcome to the first ever, the inaugural 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Draft podcast for Super Coach. It's going to be huge. 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I've got no idea how this is going to pan out, 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: but we do have our draft officionados here in Wilson 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Smith and Max Brighton Wilso, how are your preps coming along? 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Going really good? 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: My draft rankings and my sleeper analysis live on the websites, 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 3: and yeah, just getting ready for my drafts now, got 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: draft knights booked in, so looking forward to them. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, my draft knight's booked in, but only seven of 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: the twelve people can actually make it, so it's going 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: to be an interesting evening. As you said, we've got 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: more draft content than ever this year. You've already got 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: your rankings and your sleepers up. Max has got one 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: story up and about what's six to come following this. 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: How's your preparation going. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: It's been starting probably a little bit later than usual 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: because I've been deep in Supercoach, Big Bash and a 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 4: little bit of EPL as well this year. But like 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 4: the last couple of nights, now we're firmly in like 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 4: the tinker part of the season where I've sort of 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 4: set my top one hundred, and then every now and 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: then throughout the day, I'll go in there and have 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: a random thought move someone up and down. 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: So it's coming together. I think it's going to be 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: my year. 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be my year though as well, 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: because last year and in previous seasons, I was probably 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: more of an occasional draft player, not my preferred format. 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: I always thought Classic was more fun to play, but 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: as of this year, I think Draft is my favorite format. 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: I've already done a whole bunch of mock drafts, which 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: I'll mentioned a million times today. At night time, when 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: my wife is watching some true crime pining, I'll just 35 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: sit there doing a mock draft. So look out for 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: Sanks's Paradise this year. There's also been some breaking news 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: recently which is going to affect super Coach both Classic 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: and Draft big time. That is that the interchange rules 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: have changed. Teams have six players on the interchange bench, 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: but can only use four. There's still the eighteenth rules, 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: so they could potentially use five if there are three 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: concussions or there's foul play, but this is going to 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: affect Supercoach big time. They select six, they can only 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: use four, so For example, if you've got Cooper Bye 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: as a cheapie to start the year and he's let's 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: say the third forward who comes off the bench for 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: the Titans, someone gets injured early, they pull in lochlann 48 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: Elius to replace AJ Brimpton at five eight, and Cooper 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Bye doesn't play. You probably wouldn't have him in your seventeen, 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: but you don't get the price rise for that week. 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean massive years. 52 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: Like you said, it pretty much means anyone who's not 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: in the starting side for their team just becomes a 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: far riskier option to be in your starting side for supercoach. 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, someone like Cooper Bye is a good example 56 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: that they suddenly become a much riskier pick to have 57 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: in your team. 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: Your thoughts. 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: I love it from an innerl perspective. 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: When we heard those stats last year about teams who 61 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 4: lost an outside back at some point during a game, 62 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: they were I think seventy five or eighty percent most 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: likely to just lose the game out right. 64 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was a position to cover. I think 65 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be a better product. Got to be 66 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: of the thought though, what. 67 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: If I'm just wondering if there's like a possible change 68 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: of scoring. Right, so in supercoach, we've still got those 69 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: four reserves. What if we did six reserves this year 70 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: and maybe you've got your four best scuse. 71 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: It has already been spoken about. I knew that you'd 72 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: hijackman a question at some stage. It has been spoken 73 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: about this morning, and unfortunately, the decision. I think it's 74 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: a great idea, but the decision is our teas and 75 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: seas are already out and it is it's too late 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: to change them, unfortunately. So for next year, if the 77 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: land gives us just a little bit of notice with 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: some sort of rule change in the future, then we'll 79 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: be prepared for it. And yeah, I think it's a 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: great idea. We'll throw around a few things during this season, 81 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: but it's not going to happen for this year. 82 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Cool, all right, Well, at least ask yes. 83 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: I think the VC loophole is going to be really 84 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: hard to because if you've got the risk of players 85 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: getting zero in your team, you're going to be playing short. 86 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, that massive risk. I think loophole is basically dead. 87 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say dead. 88 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: I mean I think think the big introduction last year, 89 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: of course flex it probably changed people's VC loops per 90 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: year from maybe one or two to maybe four to six. 91 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: I think we'll still get that because that lower score 92 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: will be flex, but yeah, it's definitely riskier. 93 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: So we're going to run through each position with this 94 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: first time of Draft podcast, so we'll see how the 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: structure unfolds. But the first question is if you had 96 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: a gun to your head right now, who's your first pick? 97 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: Going to be? The first pick for me is Nathan Cleary. 98 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: We've spoken heaps in other podcasts about the rough start 99 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: of the year for the Panthers, but I think in 100 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: terms of draft that really shouldn't be as much of 101 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: a concern. I think over the course of the season, 102 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: Nathan Cleary is going to be just your most consistent 103 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: option in a low depth spine position. So I think 104 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: for draft he just ticks all the boxes and they 105 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: might have a rough start, but what you really care 106 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: about in draft is just getting to the final and 107 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: having your guns form well in the finals. 108 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: Who's your first I think every other year I would 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: have said and Cleary, But the thing that's really kind 110 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: of shifted to me this year is just the depth 111 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: at half back position. It is way better than previous years. 112 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 4: Like in the past, last year, we probably had three 113 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: guys in preseason we could confidently say it would score 114 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: seventy five plus. This year, there's like ten dudes, maybe 115 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: a dozen, who could score above sixty five. So I 116 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: reckon the depth at halfback is better than the depth 117 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: at full back, so I'd be taking Teddy Teddy. 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: Yep, I like that call for me. I agree that 119 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the positions have a lot of depth 120 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: this year. Even at I reckon there's ten guys that 121 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. Five to eight is probably the thinnest, 122 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: but there's still probably ten guys. I was picking up 123 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: like Blaze to Lungey very late in a draft last night, 124 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: and I think he's a decent option. So for me, 125 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I think one of the big tactics this year is 126 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: going to be stacking the pack. So I'll go with 127 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: Painhas as my first pick. 128 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: Wow, huge big call. 129 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think, as I said, I don't, the 130 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: positions this year have so much depth, So lock in 131 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: pain hearts right from the start, hopefully can play for 132 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the year. 133 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to drafting against you then. 134 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: Yes, Well, speaking of we've got a Draft night coming up. 135 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Wilso is going to be there as well. It's going 136 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: to be hosted by Jessica Yates from Fox Sports. Cooper 137 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: John's is going to be on the green carpet. There's 138 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Tim Williams from sc Playbook. We've got the Guru look, 139 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: and a bar is going to be there. We've got 140 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: a huge panel doing our launch and there's no tickets left. Actually, 141 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: I was going to say you could get, but I 142 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: think all the allocation is gone. It's going to be 143 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: a great night, So look out for the content from 144 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: that super Coach plus twenty nine to nine five for 145 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: the year, get in there and play around average draft 146 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: position stuff like that. You can see for draft in 147 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: terms of classic most popular players projections. The thing that 148 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: I've been filling around with way too much is you 149 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: can look at player stats from previous seasons. So last 150 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: night I found myself looking at Harry Grant's performances when 151 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: he played for the Tigers in whatever season that was 152 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: for had no relevance to what I was doing. This 153 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: for some reason, thought that that was important to know 154 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: at that particular point. It is important to know twenty 155 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: nine for the year, but you got a free trial 156 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: to play around with it and then see where you're 157 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: at after round two. Your top tip for beginners. 158 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you mentioned it before, but I think mock drafting, 159 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: especially for people who are drafting for the first time, 160 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: I think mock drafting is absolutely essential if you're if 161 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: you're heading into a drafting you don't know how the 162 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: user experience and the interface works, you're going to be 163 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: pretty cooked. Especially if you're under like a thirty sixty 164 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: second time limit and you don't know how to actually, 165 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: you know, work the draft, You're going to be in trouble. 166 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: So I think mock drafting is just absolutely essential, and 167 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: it just on top of all that, you'll just get 168 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: a good sense of when players are going. 169 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Yep, I agree one hundred percent yours. 170 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: I've gone with something a little bit more practical. I 171 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: think the prep is key and getting that getting that 172 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: pre draft board in the order that makes you come 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: is keyp it. The main thing for me for beginners 174 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: is like you got to draft your boys. The thing 175 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: about draft, and I think why we all love it 176 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: as a format, is like it's so personal, right because 177 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: you're the only player in that competition who is able 178 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: to own that particular player for. 179 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: The whole season. 180 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: You're going to live with these dudes for twenty seven 181 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: weeks of football, right, so you've got to like them. 182 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: I think, you know, if you're a big New South 183 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: Welshman and the thought of the Broncos make you sick, 184 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: and you've got the choice between Reecee Walsh or James Dedesco, right, like, 185 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 4: you're not going to pick the Queenslander. So I think 186 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: if in your first season, you're just got to really 187 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: like your boys. 188 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: Yep, indeed, I think I agree with both what you've said. Also, 189 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: when you do your draft order, just do it really 190 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: really deep. Five hundred players, four hundred players, because if 191 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you're in a seventeen player if your team as seventeen 192 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: players in your league, and all leagues are different. Of course, 193 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: the one that we're doing is only an eight player league, 194 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: but most of them are generally thirteen seventeen player leagues. 195 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: That means and you've got twelve people, that means a 196 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: lot of players going to So just do it really 197 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: low so that you're not stuffed it gets to the 198 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: last pick and you don't have someone sitting there on 199 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: auto who can automatically go in if, for example, you 200 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: just hit yourself, which does happen, particularly if there's only 201 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: a thirty second GAFF career drafting. Top tip for experts, Now. 202 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: My top tip for experts is to keep track of 203 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: what everyone else in your league is doing. Obviously, like 204 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: you'll be going through and you'll be like, I need 205 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: a hooker, I need a fullback. 206 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: What do I need next? I need a five eight? 207 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: But I think that's all well and good. 208 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: But I think really good tip is to just keep 209 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: track of what everyone else is doing as well. If 210 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: if you notice that a bunch of fullbacks are going early, 211 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: and say you're in a ten man league and you 212 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: see that eight people eight teams already have fullbacks, you 213 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: can think, okay, I can sit back and feel the 214 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: rest of our positions. Now, no one else in the 215 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: league is going to be taking a fullback for a 216 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 3: really long time, so you can afford to wait on 217 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: that position. And I think it's especially important if if 218 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: you're around the turn in the draft, if you're, say, 219 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: drafting at nine, and you know that the person who's 220 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: drafting after you will not be taking a fullback, then 221 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: you can be like, okay, I can take something that 222 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: he's probably going to be wanting and then when it 223 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: comes back to me, he's not going to be taking 224 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: a fullback, so I can get a fullback then. So 225 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: I think just keeping track of what everyone else is 226 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: doing is really really important. 227 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: Your tip. 228 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: My tip is to draft for finals. Now, this is 229 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: something I'm really really passionate about. But as we mentioned, like, 230 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: you've got to own these guys for the entire season, 231 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: but when they're really going to come into fruition for you, 232 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: he is during your final series. So have a look 233 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: at your settings, see when your finals are. Most comps 234 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: are going to be running from twenty three to twenty six. 235 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: And they just kind of illustrate this point, right, like, 236 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: who do we think he is going to score more 237 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: in around twenty six at second row? Between Tallas Duncan 238 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: or Hudson. 239 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: Young, Well, one of them's on the buy I'm assuming 240 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: exactly right, Tom, and I don't know which one it is. 241 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: Stumps me. 242 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: Let's see, the Raiders have got to buy in around 243 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: twenty six, so you know there'd be people out there 244 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 4: who'll be really hot on Hudson Young this year is 245 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: the top second row player. But in a draft format, 246 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: I just don't think you can really spend a high 247 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: end pick on him knowing that you won't have him 248 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: when you need him most. So I think about guys 249 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 4: like Bunnies versa Titans in round twenty six the cowsbursta Tigers. 250 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: Like those two games right there looks like points de 251 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: luxe for me, So naturally I'll be upweighing what I 252 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: think of the Bunnies and probably like, let's say the Tigers, 253 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: they'll win that one easy in twenty. 254 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: Six For me, I think one of the keys, and 255 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: something that really tripped me up last year is that 256 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: you need dual position players. It means that you don't 257 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: have to tray it, you don't have to go to 258 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: the wave of a wire if you've got I mean, 259 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: Jack de Bellen only averaged fifty three off the top 260 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: of my head last year. And if you're in a 261 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: seventeen I you've got seventeen player team, you'll be able 262 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: to get better guys into your squad. But I'm going 263 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: to upweigh him by at least four or five average 264 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: per game just because he's a dual position. You get 265 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: an injury, slot him into front row or slott him 266 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: into second row. 267 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, love that. 268 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: I mean, even guy like Josh Curry has much more 269 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: value with that your position. And I'll get to a 270 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: bunch of other ones later in the podcast. Okay, let's 271 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: start with hookers. We're going to start with them just 272 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: because you started with them in your draft rankings. Why 273 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: did you start what? You start with them? By the way, 274 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: when are you going to fill the hooker position? 275 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: So I started with them in my draft rankings just 276 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 3: because I think that it Personally, I think it's the 277 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: most dire in terms of quality options. 278 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: There's really only like two to. 279 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: Three guys that actually played close to eighty minutes the 280 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: entire game. Even someone like Happy chorusa who I have 281 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: ranked quietly, ranked quite highly, almost never plays eighty minutes. 282 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: So I think it's an important position to feel early, 283 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: but it's not one that I would be filling too early. 284 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: So someone like Blake Brayley or Harry Grant the earliest 285 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: I would consider really looking at them is probably like 286 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: the third round. If one of them falls to you 287 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: in the fourth round, it'd be an absolute no brainer. 288 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: But despite it being a really low depth position, it's 289 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 3: not one that i'd be looking at fill in the 290 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: first round at all. 291 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: No, but I think in those mid rounds you have 292 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: to go for it. The stats on Harry Grand he's 293 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighth his average draft position, and Blake Braley is nineteenth, 294 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: so they're going early ish, but not particularly early. Then 295 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: you've got someone like Corus Hour who may even pick 296 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: up some goal kicking duties which could improve him this 297 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: year average fifty five. Last year he's going at one 298 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: hundred and eleventh. So you don't need to rush to 299 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: fill this position. 300 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, I completely agree with that. For me, I'm 301 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: not taking a hooker four round five. I'd much rather 302 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 4: feel that position week to week with someone from the 303 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: waivers than waste the potential of someone who's picking that high. 304 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: So, in terms of a left field sleeper, if you 305 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: get really stuck in this position, what's your pick? 306 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: I think Sam Vererrel's at the Titans last year. I 307 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: can't remember what it was averaging off the top of 308 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: my head, but he's solidified basically an eighty minute roll 309 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: and was looking really good. And last year he was 310 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: someone you could very easily pick up off waivers mid season, 311 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 3: and a lot of teams that ended up doing well 312 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: were teams that just picked him up off waivers, so 313 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: I think he's someone that you can get extremely late, 314 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: especially given the fact that he is the Titans hook 315 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: I feel like there's just a bias against him, but 316 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: he's someone. 317 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: That you can get really late and who will do 318 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: a good job for your dam I agree, yeah, I 319 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: like Jeremy Marshall King. He's average last year I think 320 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: was sixty three, so I think he was. 321 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: Technically he's got a third on that list. 322 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: He does struggle to stay on the park because I 323 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: think he's a smaller body and he's only been playing 324 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: hooker for half his career. But like when he's on, 325 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: he's on, and we know the Finns are one of 326 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: those high scoring attacking teams, so he's got some match 327 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: winning potential. 328 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: He's going pretty low, sixty ninth on average draft position. 329 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: Obviously injured for the first I think it's six weeks 330 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: that he said, so you'd have to get someone to 331 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: cover him, like for example, Ben Hunt, who's going to 332 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: play hooker this year at one hundred and fifty ninth, 333 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: or Damien Cook at one hundred and thirty eighth. They've 334 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: got Jacob Little potentially injured for the first few, so 335 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: he could play eighty minutes to start, then it might 336 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: die off a bit from there. Let's move on to 337 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: halfback when we're going to fill this position. 338 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: For me, this is a position that I as long 339 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: as you don't miss out in one of the top options, 340 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: is a position you want to be feeling in the 341 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: first two rounds. Obviously, it depends on a host of factors, 342 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: like how many teams you are and what your league 343 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: settings are. But I mean half back. Half back depth 344 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: is a lot better this year. But I think the 345 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: difference between the top sort of five options and the 346 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: depth is really really massive. So this is a position 347 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: I want to be feeling ideally in the first two rounds. 348 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: But that being said, if the top guys do go 349 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: before it gets to you, it's a position that you 350 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: can very easily afford to wait. 351 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: A while on. 352 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you've said that really well. I think 353 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: those five guys so probably the like Sir Cleary, Hines, Hughes, Campbell, 354 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: and Walker, they've gone for me in the first twenty picks, 355 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: and that could easily be the first fifth than picks 356 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: after that, though, I think you can wait because the 357 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: depth is really, really nice. 358 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of looking at. 359 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: Those other guys, Your Foggerty's, your Dewey's, Dylan Brown's kind 360 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: of around that sort of pick fifty to sixty mark 361 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: for sure. 362 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. So in terms of the stats, you've got Nathan Cleary. 363 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: Average draft position of second Nico is eighth, so a 364 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: lot of people are going for them, and then it 365 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: does drop away to Jerome Hughes at thirty four. But 366 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: we'll mention Jaden Campbell because he's your big twenty, your 367 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: big guys this year. He's coming at fifteenth, so I 368 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: think a lot of people have been listening. 369 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and look to me, honest, if I got him 370 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: at pick fifteen, that would be a steal because I 371 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: think he's got genuine top ten potential. This year took 372 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: him to the guy with a base power average of 373 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: forty ten points in goalkicks, he gets fifty points basically 374 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: for doing up his shoes. So he's a really really 375 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: really solid draft commodity. 376 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: Nice nice I like that, and a sleeper for this 377 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: position if you get a bit stuck. 378 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: Ethan Sanders is a cheapi and supercauch classic and could 379 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: be someone who does all right in draft picks and 380 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: He's someone you can probably get extremely late, but I 381 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: think he comes with a lot of risks. So I 382 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: think a better sleeper pick is Mitch Moses, whose numbers 383 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: are significantly down after missing a ton of game time 384 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: last year. And he's someone who could very very easily 385 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: be a top like one in the conversation for the 386 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: top guys, and he's someone you can get much later 387 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 3: in the draft. 388 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: So he's going at sixty fourth on average, So I 389 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: like that pick. You also mentioned Dylan Brown before going 390 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: ninety fourth, I like, so I'll mention Lachlan Galvin at 391 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and nineteenth. Yeah, I feel like he only 392 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: scratched the surface last year. He could go a lot 393 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: better this season. In his second season at the Dogs, 394 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: averaged off the top of my head, I think it 395 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: was fifty six. I reckon he should average over sixty 396 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: this year. 397 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, completely agree. He was my sleeper for sure. 398 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: I think he's a sneaky option in that other version 399 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 4: of the game as well that we're not here to 400 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: talk about. 401 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: But I really like Galvin. 402 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: I'll just say on Moses, like he's a guy who 403 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: could average sixty five with a whole bunch of forties. 404 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: And eighties to sort of get there. My hairline's not 405 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 4: really up to that kind of stress, So for me, 406 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: I wouldn't pick up him before probably about round six. 407 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, he's definitely going to. 408 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: Be better than he did last year onto five eight, 409 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: and it's probably I think it's got the least depth 410 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: of any position. So are you going to go early? 411 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: He will SOO, No, I think it is. 412 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: It is a risk, but I think even cam Munster, 413 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: the ceiling at the whole position is significantly lower than 414 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: the other spine position. So I will gladly let everyone 415 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: else in the league take go early on five eight, 416 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: and I will try and find. 417 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: Value later on in the draft. 418 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: It's a position that I think I'm the most comfortable 419 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: streaming out later on in the season, just chopping and 420 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: changing if you need. 421 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: But it's not a position that I'm going to feel early. 422 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: I think the only counter to that is that if 423 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 4: you can find one of these guys a little bit later. 424 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: I just say everyone's got that same mindset with five eighth. Like, 425 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: if you end up being the cam Munster owner and 426 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: you're picking him up in say round three, then that's 427 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: pretty awesome. You get a natural potentially ten point advantage 428 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 4: on everyone else in one position every single week. So 429 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: I think you've got to be prepared to be flexible. 430 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: But I wouldn't really there's no five eighth that I'd 431 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 4: be prepared to touch before round three. 432 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: Well, Munster is going at fourteenth, I'd say that's way 433 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: too high. 434 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: I kind of I would have him certainly in like 435 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: the mid twenties. 436 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: Next up is Fletcher Sharp at twenty two. I find 437 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: that pretty crazy for a guy who we don't know 438 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: which position he's going to play, is going to play 439 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: in the harves as Chad, he could play on the wing. 440 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: If Ponger doesn't make round one and then he's not 441 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: racing the clock, he's just going to miss the trials. 442 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: But if Ponger doesn't play at all, he probably plays fullback. 443 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: So much going on here, it's a bit of a 444 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: risk to be going him at twenty two. And I 445 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of people must be having it on 446 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: auto because he finished with such a high average last year, 447 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: so he's just getting sucked into their team. 448 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: I think he averaged seventy seven at the end of 449 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: the season, which was I think it's just a massive outlier, 450 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: and the Knights attack was so badlast year that he 451 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: was pretty much carrying the team. I think he's Yeah, 452 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: I think he's going way too high. People are saying 453 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: that seventy seven average from last year and jumping early. 454 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: But he's definitely someone i'd avoid. Like you said, we 455 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: don't really know what position he's going to start. That 456 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 3: there's even a chance maybe if Sam and Smith really 457 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: impresses in the trial, maybe Fletcher Shark plays off the 458 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: bench in a bit of a utility role, which I 459 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: think would be a massive red flags. He's someone that 460 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: I will gladly let everyone else in the league go 461 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: early on him. 462 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 4: I think sometimes though, you've got to pick on potential, 463 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: and I think with him, he's probably the number one 464 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: guy who could challenge Munster for the best imposition. Yeah, 465 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 4: because think about it, kp his feet simply made of 466 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: old newspapers. Like if he sits out games, then Fletcher 467 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 4: Sharp's going to have that number one on the back 468 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: and he will justify seventy seven average if that happens, 469 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: even if he's on the wing. We saw him I 470 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: think average seventy two in his rookie season. He would 471 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: be very renowned a draft leagues for being a late 472 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: season streamer who scored three tries in the round twenty 473 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: six Grand Final for the Newcastle Knights. 474 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: Two years ago. 475 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 4: So I think even though he's averaged this season, it's 476 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: probably more likely to peg him in around a sort 477 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 4: of sixty to sixty five. There's one guy at five 478 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 4: eight who could push up towards the seventy five or eighty. 479 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: I reckon it's him. 480 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: Good thing about him if he does play on the wing, 481 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: and the club has denied that that's going to happen, 482 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: by the way, it's just speculation, but he would play 483 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: as on, he'd play. 484 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: That Tom if not outside outside Lucas, he's outside Dylan Brown, 485 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: Like there's going to be that is one of the 486 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: hottest edges in rugby league. And I know they don't 487 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: have any forwards, but if there's one guy like who 488 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: could be a league breaker at five eighth. 489 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: It's sure. 490 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: So next it dips down a lot. You've got DC 491 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: at fifty first and Ethan Strange who actually don't mind 492 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: sneaky chance for the goalkicking as well at fifty three. 493 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: Let's go really left field here though, who are you 494 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: picking if it's very late on. 495 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 3: I mentioned him before, but I think Sam and Smith 496 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: if there's a chick, if he ends up winning a 497 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: start spot, I think he's someone that you can get 498 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 3: really really late, and if he is a starter, he 499 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: could be good. 500 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: But like we were saying before, we don't really know exactly. 501 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: Where that's gonna where he's going to fit into the 502 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: team yet, So if your drafters after the trials, then 503 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: maybe we'll have a better idea. But otherwise, like it's 504 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: a bit of a risk taking drafting. 505 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: Him his dual position as well, So when your workers 506 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: on the by, just flick him in there straight away exactly, 507 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't need to worry with the waivers thoughts on him. 508 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: I like him. 509 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: I think there is the risk of job security, and 510 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: job security is like a bit of a tough one 511 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 4: to muck around with in draft, particularly early, but I 512 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: think you'd get him late enough to be fine. The 513 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: guy that I've got though, very close to my heart, 514 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 4: is Jerome Luai. Now, listeners to the se Playbook would 515 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: be familiar with how dudes go with other dudes, and 516 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: he's a dude who's average last season jumped to sixty 517 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: once Lachland Galvin left the team, and his season average 518 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: was only kind of got forty eight, so it was 519 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: a really really marked improvement when he sort of moved 520 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 4: back to that five eighth role. Taylor May out there 521 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: at left center. I'm not saying he's going to have 522 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: a sixty. I think that's probably closer to sort of 523 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: like a fifty five. But Loui, no one's looking at him. 524 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 4: I reckon you get him money. 525 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a solid call. I've got Blake s Talangey. 526 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned him before. I think he can player like Galvin, 527 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: only just scratched the surface last year. I think the 528 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: he'll go better at Penrith this year. So and get 529 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: him at ninety eighth, which pretty low for him or 530 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Cody Walker on the old legs. But one hundred and 531 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: sixtieth is I feel pretty low for him. 532 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: He'll break your heart in draft legs though, the amount 533 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: of games he misses. 534 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true at fullback. So when you're going to 535 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: feel this, a lot of them are going early. I'll 536 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: tell you the stats. Tedesco's third, Welsh's fourth, Scott drink 537 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: Water seventh, and then yeah, so very high, tom Cha 538 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: Woowich twentieth. 539 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 3: For me, it depends on where at what slot you're 540 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: drafting in. If you're if you cop a late first 541 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: round pick, it's a very good chance that you're going 542 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: to miss out on or maybe five of those top 543 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: fullbacks before it actually comes to you, in which case 544 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: I would be looking to actually just let everyone else 545 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: take the fullbacks early and try and get one in 546 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: rounds three to four. But if I have an early 547 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 3: draft pick, and say I'm drafting at fourth, then the 548 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: likes of Nathan Cleary Paynhas are going to be going, 549 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: and then you're looking at someone like James Tedesco or 550 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 3: Reese Walsh, in which case I would just take them 551 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: with my first pick. But if you're missing out on 552 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: those top guys, I would wait for the mid rounds. 553 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: One thing I'll mentioned we haven't mentioned yet but we 554 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: should have, is look at your league settings, because not 555 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: all leagues have captains. My league, for example, doesn't in 556 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: one of them, but the one that we're doing for 557 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: our draft night will, So that's a big factor there. 558 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: And we pick a fullback. 559 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: Reckon, Yeah, I think so, because that's gonna be the 560 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: guy who's going to have the arman on more more 561 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: often than not. I think you've got to take a 562 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: fullback in the first two. I think the depth in 563 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 4: the drop off in talent is more vicious compared to 564 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 4: say half back, and I just want to own one 565 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: of those big boys there. I think half back, fullback 566 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 4: first two picks for me almost every single season, and 567 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: I don't really see a way to kind of deviate 568 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: from that unless it is I'm kind of really really 569 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 4: late on the turn peek, and there's the potential to 570 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: maybe grab like. 571 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: A Herbie, like a carraz. 572 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 4: But I want one of the big boys, so I 573 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: definitely will be going early. 574 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: In terms of your left field guys, what are you 575 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: thinking here for mid bench guy or someone really. 576 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: Late, really late. 577 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: Well, I think Keanu Kinney is someone who is not 578 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: going to go really late, but he will go far 579 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 3: later than he should be purely on last year's numbers. 580 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: He's going to be out of sight and out of mind. 581 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: For like, if people are filtering and buy full back 582 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 3: and they're only looking at the top ten guys, he's 583 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: not going to be showing up. So he's someone who 584 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: I think you can get really late in the draft 585 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: who has massive upside. 586 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: Yep, it's filtered by last year's average and the only 587 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: way to change that is by setting your own order. 588 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I think so, Yeah, Yeah, I like the 589 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: kinish out. 590 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: I would say that any league that he's sort of 591 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: not going within the first two rounds, like, I would 592 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: love to be in that league because I feel like 593 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: you'd just be pulling the wool over people's eyes because 594 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: he's going to average so easily close to eighty. But 595 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 4: if you want really left field, the guy I like 596 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 4: his tained to a picky over at the New Zealand Warriors, 597 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: so sleepy that I reckon, you know, he's basically small. 598 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: Acts like this. 599 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: This guy isn't even we're going to have Pokemon references. 600 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 4: Well, this guy is not even going to be in 601 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 4: the round one team, although his potential at fullback is 602 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 4: sky high. He's got CTW Jewell and there's a lot 603 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: of chatting preseason that this was sort of going to 604 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: be the transition year away from a CNK over towards 605 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 4: tainted to a picking his performances last year were amazing, 606 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: so but we know fullback it's that one where. 607 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: The injuries really hurt. 608 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: So if you're really late in the draft, made with 609 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: a laugh, pick pick a stash of taint or even 610 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: just watching him on the waivers or free agency. 611 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: Just being aware could be a game changer. 612 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call. Jano Kinney. I bought in 613 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: very high in the draft. Everyone paid me out and 614 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: he was killing it and then got injured really early. 615 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: That was me too last year, and. 616 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: Then then I got rid of him and he came 617 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: back in. I reckon Ji Gray at ninety seventh. I 618 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: think he had a few games off the bench and 619 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: maybe one or two in the halves last year that 620 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: brought his average down. So he's going to be a 621 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: bit lower in the list going at ninety seventh at 622 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: the moment, and Sua far Longo, who's very popular or classic, 623 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: is going one hundred and first. 624 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really good value for two guys who can 625 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 4: easily get a sixty five average. 626 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 627 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Right, second row, When are we going to fill this position? 628 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: I think it's probably earlier than in past years. 629 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 630 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: Look, it's a tough one because I think it depends 631 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: on what's your action. 632 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: I'm not taking one with my first pick. 633 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to be more targeting a fullback or a 634 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: half back if I can. But he I think you 635 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: want at least one gun second rower in the first 636 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 3: five rounds, So it depends on who's available at the time, 637 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: but it's probably something I'm looking at feeling, and maybe 638 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: rounds three to four if you can still get one 639 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: of those top guys. 640 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got four dudes within the top thirty picks 641 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: from second row, but I probably would prioritize getting a 642 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 4: high upside CTW over second row, which is probably a 643 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 4: newer trend for me. I think traditionally second round or 644 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 4: top three pick for a second row. I definitely wanton 645 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 4: one in the top five, but yeah, I'm not going 646 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 4: to push it. I don't want to reach for a 647 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: second rower because there's better depth when you realize, because 648 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: it's a position primarily built on base. Like it's easy 649 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: enough to find a dude in free agency who's going to. 650 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Get you a fifth Yeah, this is I've got one 651 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: stat for you that shows that stats don't mean anything really, 652 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: and that is there must be a lot of people 653 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: on auto draft because Earie Katawa his average draft position 654 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: is twenty fifth. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's a lot of 655 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: ye he has quite a few bots, So take all 656 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: the stats with a grain of salt, But Hardson Young 657 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: is ninth. Tino's pretty high. Dylan Lucas is really high, 658 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: which again I think is probably more of a bot thing. 659 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: Would you take I mean he is good, when would 660 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: you take him? 661 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: Definitely top twenty picks for Dylan Lucas, Like he's built 662 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: for super coach that man, he's a freak. He's excellent 663 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: work rate, great speed, attacking mindset just from his days 664 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: as a center. I reckon if you can get him 665 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: in your first twenty picks sort of between that sort 666 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: of fifteen to twenty range. 667 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: I'll be very happy. 668 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Let's chat sleepers. Who you got. It's a position where 669 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: you can go pretty late as well, particular you've got 670 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: a seventeen player team. 671 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you were saying, there's a ton of guys 672 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: at this position that you can get good quality options 673 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: with high upside mid to late in the draft, And 674 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: I think lekajal Sema is someone that I'm really going 675 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: to be targeting late in the drafts. He's further down 676 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: the list than he probably should be, just based on 677 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: last year numbers where he had a few games off 678 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: the bench and others where he wasn't playing eighty minutes. 679 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: But I think there's a good chance that if not 680 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: eighty minutes this year, he gets a significant bump in 681 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: his minutes. And he's someone that has a lot of 682 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: upside that you can get later on in the draft. 683 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that shout. 684 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: I think a guy who is a bit of an 685 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: underrated super coach prospect that you can pick up around 686 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: round this nine or ten. Kype his Paul Good game 687 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 4: of supercoach, lots of off loads. If Benji given him 688 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: the license this year to kind of free the arm, 689 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: it could be pushing a sixty five average. And he's 690 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: just not a sexy pick, but he's just a really 691 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 4: good workhorse. 692 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: I quite like that. The guys that I like in 693 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: this position, though, are mostly dual position, so I wouldn't 694 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: say he's a sleeper. But Toby Couchman a seventieth, he's 695 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: pretty low for him. I think he'll be He could 696 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: go from being a borderline keeper to being a genuine 697 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: keeper this year. Plus he's got the dual position. Isaiah 698 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: PAPALII decent as well with the dual position. Hopgood's got 699 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: the dual position, and he's one hundred and first. Jack 700 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: de bell and I mentioned before one hundred and forty fifth. 701 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you take that. 702 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: I'd take him as my sort of last or second 703 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: last pick front row. When are we filling front row? 704 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: We've got pain Hass currently going as the most popular pick. 705 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of similar to our F. I think 706 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: this is one of those positions where in the first 707 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: five rounds I want either a gun second row or 708 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: a gun prop. I'd probably just given some of the 709 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: talent at the top of this list, I think i'd 710 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: probably more be prioritizing a top front. 711 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: Rower in the first few rounds. 712 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: But if you can compare like a top to r 713 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: F or a top prop with like a gun fullback, 714 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: You're going to be pretty happy most weeks. So this 715 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: is a position that I'm looking to fill one of early. 716 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: For me, look at your settings. If you don't have 717 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: a captain, pain Hass is a genuine action as a 718 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: first pick. If you've got captains, you have to go 719 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: with half back or five eight. What do you think? 720 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: I think? Yeah, I agree with both of you. 721 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: I would say personally from a preference perspective, like I've 722 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: got the opportunity to take like late round one Paynehass 723 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 4: Tell May or like a Keanu Kinney, like I'm going 724 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 4: the young fun full back, like every single day of 725 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: the week. There's probably three names i'd take in the 726 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: first in the second round, but like, I don't want 727 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: to pay up for a PROP for me, so I'd 728 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: be happy to try and find a guy after round 729 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: five sleeper is here. Yeah, I think the one of 730 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: the top sleepers at prop is Stefano Utsuo Kimano. Obviously 731 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: last year was his first year at the Storm, and 732 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 4: he was sort of eased into the system early and 733 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: kind of was not actually very relevant, but then after 734 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 4: the origin period he got dropped for one week, and 735 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: then I think that was sort of a kick up 736 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 4: the bum because in the I think in the final 737 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 4: six games he was actually killing it and was putting 738 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 4: up like top prop numbers, so. 739 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: Average sixty ninel finals. Yeah. 740 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: So I think he's someone that you can get a 741 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: bit later, not too late, but a bit later, who 742 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: has really good upside of the position that and it's 743 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: a position that, with the exception of a few players, 744 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: doesn't have a ton of upside. So and he's one 745 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: of those guys. 746 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: I think if by the end of round three, everyone 747 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: who plays super Coach will know his name, it's Trey Mooney. 748 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 4: I reckon he's going to be the number one waiver 749 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: picking round. 750 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: Two as well. 751 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 4: Just a couple of performances last year of notes, so 752 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: he played forty three minutes starting at lock for the 753 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: Raiders and scored eighty nine points, which is mental. And 754 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 4: then in round twenty seven he played fifty five minutes 755 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: off the bench for seventy eight points. But this is 756 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: a career one point two ppm guy. He's going to 757 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 4: be getting at least forty minutes in Newcastle, and he's 758 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: got an engine you could get fifty. So I don't 759 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 4: think it's crazy to suggest that he could average fifty five. 760 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: And I wouldn't be shocked if that was sixty either, 761 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: So I think he's a great sleeper. 762 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: His new Southwest Cup stats are off the charts as well, 763 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: and I have written down Stefana or to Kamana and 764 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: Trey Mooney. So agree with your guys on that censor wing. 765 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: It's going a lot earlier than it used to go. 766 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: You've got Herbia fifth, Karaz at eleventh no longer did 767 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: Awazi at twelfth, so going a lot higher than it used. 768 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: To yeah, which is you know I used to be 769 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 3: a very firm believer in not touching any center wings 770 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: until mid to late, but now I think the game 771 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: has changed so much that you sort of need one 772 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 3: of those top center wings in the first five rounds. 773 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: So someone like Herbie, if he's still on the board 774 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: in the second round, I'd be tempted to jump on him. 775 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: Otherwise some of the other guys, I think he want 776 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 3: to be grabbing a premium option within the first four rounds. 777 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got four guys in the second round. 778 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 4: I wouldn't go first, but it likes a Herbie karaz Mark. 779 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 4: Even the trail this year Velle Holmes like they'd all 780 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: push me between picks ten and twenty, and I'd be 781 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: pretty comfortable with that. If I do have to choose, 782 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 4: I'll probably usually just prioritize a spy position. But if 783 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 4: I end up with two of these guys in the 784 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 4: first six rounds, I'll be pretty happy with how I've drafted. 785 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: And in terms of sleepers, you're going to have to 786 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: go pretty deep he because generally you'll need three of them, 787 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: maybe four of them, plus a bench guy. So who 788 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: are you thinking really late? 789 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: I think Sam stone Street is someone who can get 790 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: pretty late. And he's someone who he doesn't necessarily have 791 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: the floor that would make him a top option, but 792 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: he's he'll be inheriting Ronaldo Malatalo's spot this year, who 793 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: will most likely be out for the entire season, so 794 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: he's got a tremendous opportunity. And he's someone who's been 795 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: relevant in the past but has a real chance to. 796 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: Go to the next level this year. And he's someone 797 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: I think you can get pretty late. 798 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 4: I really liked basin power stats in CTW in draft 799 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: because I think that that just gives me a more 800 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 4: consistent chance of winning if other people are chasing upside. 801 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 4: And a guy who just kind of dropped off the 802 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 4: face last year for no apparent reason was Jesse Ramian. 803 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 4: So the year before he averaged sixty five, which was 804 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 4: he dropped fourteen points last year to fifty one. His 805 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 4: points were almost exclusively in base in power last year. Like, 806 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 4: he's a top ten guy in that facet. So if 807 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: he just finds a little bit more attacked, if the 808 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 4: sharky's looking good, then he can easily push back like 809 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 4: over that sixty average mark. And he's nowhere on draft 810 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 4: boards at the moment. So taking him late, I Reckon's good. 811 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't mind Brian Kelly at one hundred and forty one. 812 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: So he's going a little bit out of fashion now 813 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: that he's moved to the Eels, but I think that 814 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: could reinvigorate him. And he's actually a really good super coach. 815 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: Regardless of what you think Brian Kelly as an actual player, 816 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: he's a good super coach player. I've got Stone Street 817 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: on there too, and Ciali fay Marni. The guy is 818 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: a really popular cheapie and classic. He's been compared to 819 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: Brian too. Oh so if he's playing like Brian and 820 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: he's on the wing for the Titans, he's score a 821 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: few points and they've will be taking the wing of 822 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: shor which wing will be on. But let's say he's 823 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: taking the wing of a Lofianna Can Pereira who scored 824 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: twenty tries last year. Who could be getting a guy 825 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: with a good bass and lots of. 826 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 3: Attack, and he's someone you could very easily get in 827 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 3: the last round of your draft if you just wanted 828 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 3: to take a punt on a flyer. 829 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: Yep. Indeed, Well that is it for our first inaugural 830 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: Draft podcast, It was lots of fun, and we'll do 831 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: another one closer to the kickoff as well, so we 832 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: can absolutely lock in our pigs picks rather big, thanks 833 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: to Max, Big, thanks to Wilson. 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